December 28, 2025 • 41 mins
I’ve decided to stop sitting on the fence.
As we head into the New Year, I’ve been thinking a lot about choosing my word (or "phrase to live by") for 2026. After months of having this one particular thing that I've been too scared to commit to, in the space of a phone call I move from 0 to 100!
I've locked in a decision that puts me completely out of my comfort zone - on soooo many levels!
In the episode, we talk about the psychology of taking these leaps, and why "waiting for the right time" is the worst thing to do.
I’m nervous, I’m technically committed, and now there's absolutely no going back! 😱
This one is about facing your nerves and finding out what happens when you finally stop thinking and start doing.
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Podcast with Rabbit. I'm Rabbit.
I record this podcast inside a cute little retro caravan from
1967 that I've tore around all over the place.
Fan podcast with Rabbit. Hey there, pod fam.
When this episode comes out, it's just a few days before New
Year's Day, and I don't have your one that does New Year's
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resolutions. I like what Julie said last
year, and I think she's been doing it for a few years and
that's that. She chooses a word and that's
going to be her word. That kind of everything goes
through that filter. And last year I remember her
word was choices. Well, I thought it was choice as
and I was like, yeah, everything's got to be choice as
this year. But no, it's about running
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everything through that filter of choices.
For her. That was everything is a choice
and there's hard choices and there's easy choices.
And I don't know if you've heardMaureen's latest episode of the
Cosmic Scavenger Hunt. So that's a brand new podcast
I've just started bringing out under broadband media in the
last couple of weeks and episode3 from her.
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OK, that's a text message from the person who I'm going to be
calling in just a second saying,can you give me 5?
I've got to get a cup of coffee.So episode 3 of the Cosmic
Scavenger Hunt, Maureen's talking all about how you've got
to listen to your body and you know, your body gives you
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signals if you think about the things you are really putting
off doing and what that if you think about that thing right
now, right? So in the episode when she's
talking about, she talks about her taxes and Maureen says if
you go on a scale of how much you do not want to do it and
would hate the idea of even doing it, the bottom end of the
scale is -10 the top end can't wait, Love it.
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Going to get straight into this is a +10.
So where in the scale, when you think about things that you have
to do, where does it sit on the scale?
And so she's never heard of the taxes, getting her taxes done
sat at about, I think it was a -, 9.
And she said even talking about it at the time in the podcast,
she could feel it in her chest. You know, there's things that
you've got to do and they just make you feel sick in the gut.
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She has some tips and things in what you can do with those
things. And one of the very first one
actually was can you just get rid of it?
Can you just cross it off the list and go, no, I'm not going
to do it Tax. No, you you can't really do that
with that one. But I know there's things on my
To Do List that I could just go,yeah, I mean, I don't have to do
that. Is there an easy way to just
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take it off your plate and my thing for this year, right.
So this all leads to my word forthis year, for when I say this
year, I mean 2026, right when we're going into and I think my
word is going to be surprise, surprise, it's 2 words can't
even get that right. And there's 2 words are do it.
Or maybe it's just do. There is no try only do.
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Didn't Yoda say that? When he say there's not try, do
only there is. That was spot on.
I, I mean, there's no one here holding up scorecards right now,
but if there were -10 So my thing is, yeah, there there are
things that I think about doing.And there's one in particular
that I'm about to do right now. And I'm going to tick off one of
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my things that I am nervous about doing.
I've been thinking about doing alot.
But because my word for 2026 is do.
I'm just, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it with you
listening here in just a second.So nervous, so out of my comfort
zone on so many different levels.
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But once I commit, oh, there's no going back.
I've actually been talking to a few people about how I'm going
to be doing this thing, even though I hadn't committed to
doing this. I think I was just trying it on
to see what it felt like to be saying that.
And once the once this phone call is made and I commit to
this, then, oh, you bet you're going to hear about it for the
next seven months. All right, Just got the message
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saying she's ready. Hello.
Bobby Jo, Hi. I'm coming to Africa with you in
August. What you.
Can you can come? To Africa because dogs are so
excited. Lock it in, I'm coming.
Is this still a spot? God, yeah, there's, there's
always a spot for you. No, 'cause I know I've looked at
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like on the page and it says like the maximum numbers 'cause
I guess that's how many you can fit in the in the vehicles and
got some spots. Yeah, you'd put me like out on
the bonnet or something as. A.
You can drive the vehicle. Oh.
My God, don't even say that I would love to drive a vehicle.
We can arrange that, yeah. Awesome.
Have a little drive on the Serengeti.
OK, so for those who don't know you, which I don't know, I think
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all of my audience know you, butBobby Jo has the Safari Life
podcast and I have had to listento her all of this year.
Making Africa sound well and safari in general just sound
like incredible, just amazing. And I have never in my life
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considered even thought of goingon a safari.
I know people do it. That's not for me.
But the way you describe everything, and you know,
because it's all recorded there as you are actually on safari
with your guests and all that, you got me, man.
It has absolutely hooked me. I am so excited just to
introduce you to the people thatyou have heard of and the
stories like Kimani and Angela and for Rods.
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That's what I was actually want to make them whole because I I'm
so I'm joining you in now. Listen, I've looked at the
itinerary of where we're going and everything, and we will go
through this because I want to bring everyone into this as to
what's actually going to be happening over the these ten
days in Tanzania. I've even been looking on the
map now, so I've got a rough idea where it is.
But I was worried that Kimani and Feroz and Engler weren't
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going to be there. And these guys are celebrities
to me because I've heard them inso many episodes.
We all coming on the Copiline trip so that we're spending a
whole day with him in the field.Oh.
My God. And when I said to you jokingly
a couple of months ago, I think I said something about I'm
coming to the Northern Serengetior whichever 1 and you went to
the Southern Serengeti, the one you're jokingly talking about
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coming on. But it's both, isn't it?
From the itinerary, we start in the South and move into the
north. Technically, you're right.
It is both. This is the first time I've ever
done this trip where we spend a few nights in and do 2, which is
where Kobe line has a lot of lines that they watch and then
we're going to head to the northto try to get a older Beast
Crossing. Yeah, what?
Was the defining moment what tipped you over the edge?
Because he was so unsure for a bit?
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Like what was something that made you go, yes, I'm doing it?
I think the biggest thing because it's been from zero to
100 over the course of since when I met you in January this
year, it sat on 0 for, oh, months, even after I met you.
And and then when the podcast started, we probably sat at
about a 10%. But only in the last few months
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has it gone just crazy because the adventures you've been
having, and I'm always saying topeople, Bobby Jo's life is
ridiculous. Look, it's just not normal.
It is this morning I'm sitting here with a cup of tea in.
Dubbo. I'm actually in Bathurst right
now. Oh, OK.
My wife has just been over in New Zealand with her mum.
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So she went over, met up with her mum, they hired one of those
campervans, like a little littlecampervan for two people.
And the two of them, Thelma and Louise up the West Coast of the
South Island, seeing the photos that Sav was sending back.
And she was even doing like little videos.
And this is so not her right? Never records herself, never on
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camera. And she was, she's filming
herself going a log in the van like doing.
Content Queen. She was doing Van Life vlogs for
me. This is so funny.
Hi guys, welcome to van life. She said at some point I'm so an
influencer. Now I'm like, I don't know what
you're influencing. Anyone else?
But what does staff think about you coming to WOW Serengeti?
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I mean, she's been saying, yeah,you should do it.
It wasn't until, Yeah, seeing the way she was looking in those
videos did sit glowing, like having the best time doing this
thing with her mum that she has wanted to do for years and
years. And it was just the two of them.
Yeah, she had a great time. I do love travelling.
I want to do more of that. I'm on this whole thing now of
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the you only live once and you don't want to be looking back
when you're too old to be travelling and going.
Kind of really should have done that.
That would have been awesome. And so it's kind of that trip.
And then my word for 2026 is 2 words.
It's do it or it's just do just kind of do stuff.
Stop thinking about it and goingshould I?
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Oh, I don't know. Yeah.
I'm going to be so out of my comfort zone for one.
I'm coming by myself. Yeah, well, you know, my dad's
going to come, I think, so maybeI can pair you guys up to fly
over together Well. I'm God, I've got my head around
the thing of trouble. I used to.
I used to never do anything by myself, could not do.
I would never go to the movies and watch a movie by myself.
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Whereas some people love that gear.
Yeah, I mean, I travel all the time by myself, but you just
sort of get used to it. But yeah, I'll be already over
there unfortunately, so I can't fly out of Australia with you.
Yeah, well, so Seb's not interested at all.
She's got a thing about being eaten by lions or something.
I don't know. She's got, funnily enough,
through listening to your episodes, she said one day she's
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like, you know what? I would do a safari, but I'd do
one of the ones in India. Yeah, India's amazing.
Yeah, which again, never would have considered that.
What's going on safari in India,but tigers, right?
Yes, that's mostly the thing. And mines actually, and there
are mines there. Yeah, I know of people who've
been on safari somewhere in Africa and they say it's life
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changing. Well, yeah, I was gonna say it's
very cliche. Everyone says, you know, life
changing and and honestly, my life changed dramatically after
going there. I changed my whole career path.
Yeah, because you went, you first went in 2015.
No, actually my first trip was in 2004.
Oh. But you've been taking tours
since 2015, is it? Since 2013, but I got serious in
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2015. Yeah, right.
Because I know that's been jokedabout a lot in the episode
because he keeps saying that nowthe guests are all saying.
Yeah, Maxine, she's such a smartass.
She's always giving trouble about it.
Wait, do you know on this tour that I'll be going?
Are there any names that I know?My, well, my dad, yeah, which is
gonna be amazing to see his reactions to things.
And I've got a wonderful lady traveling with me that I went to
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Antarctica. We've called Sam.
Antarctica. And then there's actually all
new guests, so it's a great tripwhen everyone is experiencing it
for the first time together. Because there's a lady here.
Sam's not free to Africa either.OK.
The lady on Central, is that Lynn on the Central Coast?
Yes, Lynn. Yeah, Lynn's at Irina.
And how many trips has she done with you?
She's coming up to her 20th. The next one she.
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Books. It's insane.
She wants to plan some sort of extravagant safari, I think.
And she only started doing the tours.
She only started in 2017. That was her first trip under a
decade. She's done almost 20 trips.
Jeez, what sort of things have you seen from people when
they're like doing their first one?
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Every little thing that they seejust blows their mind.
I remember seeing a guest see a pile of elephant poo for the
first time and losing it, that elephant poo.
And people go very quiet sometimes because they're taking
it all in. And sometimes I think that
they're not having a good time. And then I realized that they're
actually stuck for words. They're actually like in a
moment, an emotional where they're just absorbing it all.
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OK, so let's. Can they cry?
Oh really? I've seen lots of tears from
both men and women. It brings out the very best in
people and also the relationships that are formed
between each guest. Laughing and joking together,
socializing at dinner. It's just a really nice
experience are. They particular animals that
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sort of bring it out in people that they like.
What is it? Why are they getting so
emotional? Because there's something about
being in Africa, right? I think so.
And then you meet people that are living there with the
wildlife, let them aside. And the Kobe lion team, for
example, I think people realize that this is not The Lion King.
This is real. This is real life people living
with animals. There's no fences.
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They're living in these boma, these huts, and there's Buffalo
roaming around right next to your tanton.
People get blown away about the close proximity you get to
animals. I think people sort of think
they get to the Serengeti. All the animals are really far
away, but here sometimes they'rejust like, so close you can
smell them and you know, and theelephants get really close and
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it's exhilarating. And you had one where you were
sitting in like a Jeep and therewas a cheetah and a tree above
you. I've had many, not so much
cheetah, but lots of leopard andlions and trees above the
vehicle. But in 2013 I had a cheetah jump
onto the vehicle, put its head through the sunroof and smell
the top of my head. That's something now I know as
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being a bit more Safari mature and switched on that we
shouldn't encourage that behaviour.
No. That's something that probably
will never, ever happen again. You kept your head in the
situation. Yeah, it was just inquisitive.
It was no threat. But if that cheetah was to fall
off the vehicle and damage its leg, that's toast.
Yeah. It won't be able to hunt.
See, and that's what I love is that you are very ethical in
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everything that you're doing. Is that the right word?
It is, and sometimes I think I'mtoo ethical, like, you know, I'm
like the Karen of Safari, you know?
Ohh. God, that is the worst
description to give you this. No jokes, you know, but
sometimes I can be like I've, I can feel a guest going.
Come on now, Bobby Jay. Yeah, It's I stand by it.
That's my, that's who I am. Get a lot of that from me.
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I think. Like I know there was that big
thing with the wildebeest crossing, a huge thing earlier
this year where everyone was allout of their cars and there was
so many cars all right, sort of almost blocking where the
wildebeests were going and that and everyone's going off about
them being out of their cars. Look, I'm going to want to
stretch my legs. But I do also understand that,
well, there's lions around and stuff.
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Yeah, and you know what one of the animals people really get
crazy about is leopards, becausewhen you see a leopard, you can
say, oh, I don't really, you know, I'm a lion person or I
like, cheated. When you see a leopard and it
looks at you, it is the most stunning animal on the planet.
Yeah, it's really special animal.
Not really a cat guy. Oh, you'll become a cat guy.
Only cats of over a certain size.
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I can see you really loving the hyena, actually.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, well, they were
great on The Lion King. Mufasa, see it again, All right?
It's like 30 hours to get there,right?
Yeah, it's it's a long way, totally worse today.
Hey, you go. I can't imagine you sitting on a
plane for that long being entertained.
Bobby Joe, you. Have to medicate you heavily.
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I'll be taking some sort of horse tranquilizer that lasts 29
hours. The only part that concerns me
actually comes late in the trip,and that's when we're sitting
and it says in the itinerary, Sitting patiently.
Bring a book, waiting for the wildebeest to do their big
migration thing across the like.That sounds boring.
I love that you read that because I put that in to sort of
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let people know that we have to wait.
And it's good that you did. But you know what, we we can use
that time to interview for Ross and do record people and you can
do your thing, you know? You're going to put me to work
if you want to, Yeah. Look, I think it's a what is
known as a content goldmine. Yeah, I don't want you to be
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working, but I just know what you're like.
I know you want to collect. You're going to have Content
Wonderland. Yeah, the fact that the only
part of the trip that concerns me is the bit where I'm not
doing a million things. It's the quiet time.
So going through it, landing at I love.
So this is something I've been telling people before I even
committed to it. I'm like, yes, I'll land at
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Kilimanjaro Airport because it'sa cool name.
And Kilimanjaro is directly above the airport.
No way. So when you land, if you get a
clear morning, you should be able to see the top of
Kilimanjaro. That's cool.
That's in Arusha. It's just on the outskirts of
Arusha. It's about 45 minutes from
Arusha, OK And we stay there thenight and a lovely accommodation
and then the next day we drive to the Serengeti.
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So. I do recommend that you arrive a
day early to get over jet lag. Yeah, I've read all the stuff I
know. God, you're good.
I've even read like about visas and things.
I've looked at what vaccinationsor things I might need.
Yeah, you'll need a yellow fever.
It's a lifetime vaccination now,so you just have 1:00 and you're
done. OK, maybe I've already had it.
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I've been out to Dubbo now. That was your rabies one mate.
Sorry people have Dubbo. I know I got a shot, I just
don't remember. You got a shot when you left.
How dare you, I only do that because you live there, so I
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loved Dubbo. Side note.
Yeah, I love it too. Yeah, living there.
Really, I was quite shocked at how much I enjoyed the weekend
in Dubbo. And that was when I met you,
God. Almost a year ago and now you're
booking a Safari. Yeah.
I mean, is that is that quick oris that slow?
I mean, I don't know, it took you a year.
To get me the book, great. From zero to 100.
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All right, what do we got? Northern Serengeti, August 2026.
Here we go. Let's go through this.
Flying into Tanzania, the place in Arusha looks very nice as
well. And then after the Southern
Serengeti, now that's a full dayof driving, but there's a bit to
see along the way. Oh, it's amazing.
When you're in the car for about10 hours, it just doesn't feel
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like it. So a lot of times the biggest
complaint I get about this type of trip is that we spend a lot
of time in the car, but it's you're just taking in so much
stuff. Like we go through towns, we
stop and meet people, we meet. Once we hit those big gates into
the park, it's like a game drivethe entire way.
It's the accommodation. What's that mean?
Like you're just seeing animals.So Game Drive is basically
wildlife viewing. We're driving along.
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We see elephants, we see giraffe, we see wildebeest, we
see a lion. Now when you sort of go through
the big gates, you're like Jurassic Park.
Yes, when you get to the gates of Ngorongoro and you get to go
to Ngorongoro and you get to. Say it the crater Gorongoro
Crater. Awesome.
The Nazi Goro. My friend used to call it the
Nazi Gorin Crater, this huge biggate, and I can anyway I can
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describe it. It's like you're entering
Jurassic Park. But it's not.
Exactly like that. You're entering a National Park,
but it's not fenced at all. No, but there's just this huge
big gate and an office that you get your tickets, or for all
organizers our tickets and you check into the park and then you
literally go from a paved Rd. onto dirt and then you're on the
dirt and you're not in civilization for the next 9
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nights. How far into the 10 hour drive
are the gates? Oh, only like 3 1/2?
Oh, and then you're inside the OK, so you're not driving for 10
hours and then you get. We drive to a rusha to Gordon
Guru and then we sort of go through villagers and
agriculture in areas which it's really beautiful, stop through a
coffee toilet break and then thenext stop is the big gates wait.
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So if there's no fences, what's stopping all the lions and
elephants and things from just cruising out of the National
Park and into the villages? Nothing.
And that's the biggest problem that kopi lion faces.
So most animals are fearful of people and villages and
communities. They don't necessarily come into
village areas, but you've got lines that will roam different
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areas. So they've had lines outside of
that area where they've had to, you know, relocate.
Yeah, I know what that's. I mean, we had a dog the other
day. It didn't have a collar on and
it was in our street and I was like, whoa.
So. Sorry.
I know what it you know, it's the same.
No, but I'm I know that's different you straight away
you're like this is not normal. How much do people research in
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that before they get there? Do you get some that fully
research everything and know where they're going and all?
That three types of people. There's people that research
absolutely everything and there's people that don't even
know which country we're going to.
I'm not sure which I'm gonna be yet 'cause I've started looking
into things and I didn't realiseexactly like where Tanzania was,
so it's up in the air. I'm gonna say Kenya.
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Yeah, it's right next to Kenya, Borders Kenya.
Is Uganda a little bit further north?
Yeah. So it's it's like Northwest.
Right. Yeah.
And then you've got Mozambique in the South.
Yeah, Tanzania is a pretty big country.
All right, so then we're going to spend a day with Kobe Lyon,
who are the team that put collars on Lions to track them.
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Yep. And why do they do that?
To track them and and learn about their habits.
We mostly go for nomadic males that are moving around and
sharing the landscape with people.
We can keep an eye on those males for their safety.
We can learn about their movements, but also the collars
act like a early warning detection system.
They look up the GPS every day and if there's a line close to a
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boomer, they can notify the people this line is in your
area. Please keep your livestock safe.
Yeah, I get notifications from Woolworths insurance if a hail
storm's coming that I should move my car undercover.
That's pretty impressive. It's.
Very similar, so I may not be surprised by things there.
I get the notifications every day from Engler, so I can see
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movements or maybe it's once a week actually, and I can see
where all the coloured lines have moved during that period.
How far? It's incredible how far they go.
A lot of the times they're not. If they're around females,
they'll hang in the area, but some of these big nomadic boys
can go from in down into the crater and back up, which is,
you know, up to 20 kilometres. Big boys, are they?
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Yeah, there's one particular boywhich I would love to see.
His name's Lamasque and he is a line that's been sneaking into
the crater, amazing with the females, and then sneaking back
out because there's big males down there.
If they get a hold of him, they'll kill him.
What now I'm I am going to drop a swear word, but it's allowed
because actually a scientific word.
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He's a sneaky fucker. That is not a scientific word.
It is honestly rabs. Google it.
A scientist come up with that name to describe a male in this
other species going in and mating.
Yeah, you hear me typing that in?
Under the radar, I never. Swear by evolutionary biologist
John Maynard Smith to describe subordinate males who take
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advantage of the opportunity to make with females while dominant
males are otherwise occupied, leading to reproductive success.
You sneaky fuckers. Boom, how cool that's that's
actually in scientific literature that.
Is so funny so. I hope we get to see him.
So actually spending some time with the Kobe Lyon team.
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Yep, and you'll learn how to track lines so they'll show you
how to use the radio telemetry gear that picks up the signal
from the collar. I've seen the photos.
Repairing. Standing up on top of a vehicle
holding the big TV aerial. That's it Will be helping repair
bomas, maybe treating injured livestock that have been
attacked by predators. I remember that one.
What were those ones that were ripping the sheep's tails off?
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Baboons. Baboons taking the tails for an
afternoon snack? That's just weird.
Yeah, so it'll be a good day andI'm really so proud to introduce
you to them. And then I see a photo here of
hippos. Oh yeah.
Heaps. Yeah, hopefully.
I mean, I shouldn't guarantee anything.
Yeah, I just guarantee a good time, OK?
Good. The chances are high and we may
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visit two different hippo ponds.The first pond is putrid and it
would literally take your breathaway when you pull up.
It's disgusting like just cause all hippos are living on top of
each other and it's fascinating.I.
Don't know if I want to go there.
You know what they're saying is if you sit in it too long, it
doesn't start to stink. Yeah, that's like Rotorua in New
Zealand. You go there and you're driving
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in, oh, 'cause it's all geothermal stuff.
It's all. Sulphur, Yeah.
Oh, it's like. Rotten eggs.
And then, I don't know, after a bit of time you're like, no, I
can't even smell it anymore. The second pond we go to though
is beautiful. We go there in the morning,
Golden Line and all the hippo. Yeah, it's a lovely spot.
We normally have morning tea there.
You're within like 5 metres of ahippo.
What? You're on the land and they're
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in the water and they don't feelso threatened when they're in
their spot. Do we get out of the vehicles at
any point? Like at this kind of thing you
don't get out and Yep. When we view the hippos at the
second pond, that's a designatedarea where we can have a picnic,
so we'll be out on foot. Now, a lot of people get killed
by hippos, apparently, is what I've heard.
Everyone likes to tell me that when I say they're my favorite
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animal in the world, and they have been since I was a little
kid. And I say, look, if I got eaten
by a hippo, that's fine. Like I would, you know, it's the
kind of thing people would go, well, he went doing the thing
that he loved. Yeah, I don't want that to
happen. Yeah, but just know that, you
know? That's going to be messy, yeah.
And you're worried about cleaning up?
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No, the only way you're going toget in trouble with the hippos
if you get between it and the water, or if you if it gets a
fright, most things will run away from you, but if it feels
cornered, it will just come at you with its mouth open.
Yeah, and they open their mouth wide.
I remember because the day I metyou I was throwing cabbages into
one. Remember I told you that they
got the second biggest light pressure on the planet behind
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the crocodile? Yeah, crazy.
Have you been to Guandalan Bowling Club?
They're right there on the shores of Lake Macquarie.
They do delicious meals upstairsin the Foreshore Bistro and
Cafe, which is run by the Dish Catering Group, so you know,
it's good stuff and you can dineout on the balcony looking out
over the lake. It is beautiful.
(25:33):
They got the cute little foreshore kiosk for a coffee and
snacks right by the jetty. The entertainment's top notch.
They got Friday night seafood raffles and Sunday sessions with
live music in the beer garden. You wanna find out what's
happening at the club, check outtheir Facebook page or visit
gwandalanbowlingclub.com dot AU.King Gumber might have been beat
supporters of the Pod Damn podcast right from the start.
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And you get all the stuff from them that you'd expect to.
You get plants, you get all the Weber stuff, you get all the
still here, the amazing principal kitchens, but it's the
stuff that you don't expect like.
This lady comes in and she's hired a goat but to clear some
lands and she wanted to work outa way how to table this go.
If I come up with an idea of a bit of stainless steel wire
(26:16):
between 2 trees, like a zip linebetween the two trees to the
goat, she took my advice. I don't know how it turned out,
but she was very happy with the service that she got.
That's what she got. And the mighty helpful King
Cumber Minor Gen. Podcast with Rabbit.
And then we go to stay in some tents and now I wasn't really
(26:38):
sure about staying in tents, butI've now seen the photos of them
and there's a bougie tent it's. Glamping we.
Got Wi-Fi there. Yes.
So some of the accommodation, wehave Wi-Fi in our tent.
I think it's ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, I won't highlight
that too much when I'm talking about I bet I want it to sound
like I'm camping in a swag. Like what bear?
Grylls Yeah, something like that.
And then we go on from there. So we've seen, I mean, what have
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we seen by this point? Probably.
We've seen lions, especially forwith Kofi, lion, giraffes,
baboons, elephants, maybe a leopard in the central Serengeti
as we go through, hippos, lots of birds, hyena.
The thing we haven't really seenyet is the migration.
The wildebeest migration. Yeah, and that's what so many
people go for. That and people would go and
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then they could spend a week, they've only got a week in
Africa or whatever, and then they just don't see it and they
go home. Right?
Yeah, because it's not a set week where they do it or
anything. No, I mean, a lot of travel
agencies sell it as like, oh, they're going to be crossing
that river between July and October.
And it just depends on what's happened with the weather.
And you know, everyone talks about El Nino.
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That'll fix the all the base migration.
Yeah. I mean this year you had the
ultimate where you saw like 50,000 of them or something
crossing all at once but after acouple.
Days in the past, I'd like multiple crossings.
Like not that big, but nice sortof ones, but like several.
That was our only crossing we saw and it was a mammoth
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crossing. It's funny because that one I
like, that's the highlight of this trip, right?
That's what a lot of people bookfor.
They want to go and see the migration.
They want to see the crossing ofthe Mara River.
But I guess it's one of those things where like, if you're
there and you see it, is that like blows your mind.
I think you'd have to be not have a pulse if you didn't get
excited by it. Like I think anyone who's not
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even into animals that witnessedthat, the sounds, the sights,
the energy, it's just like you can see these animals are
fighting for their life and you get so invested in it.
So I think even if you're not into Africa or animals, it would
blow your mind. And there's crocodiles in the
river and there's lions on the banks, but they have to go
across, right? Because this is there.
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They're moving to where the grass is.
Yes, well, they're following therain and this is the thing a lot
of people think. They cross over it and that's
it. They're constantly waiting to
see where the rains going. So they want the fresh grass.
They need the best part of the grass for their calves because
they're gonna be giving birth when they get back down to the
southern Serengeti. Wow.
And that's why they go to the southern Serengeti, because the
rain ends up down there. They want that short grass.
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Yeah, I love the video. You're driving along and one of
your open top safari vehicles and it just started pouring down
with rain and you're going out. Bless the rain.
That's a little down, Maruti. Yeah, we're not gonna be in that
car. They're gonna be a very
comfortable car that we can totally pull the roof down, do
the windows up and be not wet. Oh yeah, I'm looking at.
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I think this would be the vehicle.
It's quite a big Spacey thing, giant windows along the side.
It's a cruiser, Land Cruiser, Feroz, a baby.
And he's also a mechanic, so he's very good at fixing things.
You know, we get a flat tire or we get a broken fuel line.
He's a magician with the hands. It's good to hear, and that's
kind of it for the end of the trip.
Is it? It's the migration, It's the
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wildebeest crossing, but you seeplenty.
Of stuff you forgetting the highlight the last day.
Go on, say it. On go to go to Crater.
He nailed it. I just had to Scroll down a bit
further. Right.
So you go down and let's read here.
Today we spend a full day exploring the world famous and
good or good or crater. I did it better the first time.
Yeah. The world famous and good or
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good or good. That's really good.
But I see. You take on an African accent
all of a sudden. It's a little bit Indian.
Unfortunately, it's just every accent that I do comes out a
little bit Indian. So we're going to the crater.
We'll just call it the crater. Main focus will be searching for
the resident black rhinos and tusker elephants are the ones
those massive tusks that are a plot while keeping an eye out
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for the many lion prides and smaller cats such as the Serval
that call the crater home. A paradise for landscape
photography, sweeping views of the grassy plains framed by the
towering crater walls. It is, it's like the most
magical place. Like you've got all these
different ecosystems in in one spot and it's about 30
(30:56):
kilometres across. So it's a big area, but you've
got Savannah, you've got woodland, you've got Salt Lake,
so you've got flamingos, and then you've got swamp lands
where you've got really old elephants that their teeth have
worn down there and being, you know, the soft grass and the
swamp. You've got hippo pools and then
you've got these huge, big steepwalls.
To me, the best way to describe it for any Aussie that's
(31:16):
listening is that it's like the Blue Mountains.
Oh yeah. It looks like that beautiful
Blue Mountain look, you know. Yeah, over 400 species of birds.
Big one for the what are they called?
Burton? Not birders.
Twitches. Twitches.
I might have to become a twitcher between now and.
Then oh, you're gonna be twitching your butt off.
Twerking. Twerking, twerking.
(31:38):
I like it. Oh, wow.
So that's the whole trip. It's 10 days.
Yeah, lock it in. You'll have to start polishing
up on your Swahili. Oh yeah, I did learn a few
phrases when I was editing. But then you moved on from there
and you went to Uganda and I haven't heard as much Swahili
being spoken in the episodes lately.
They speak Luganda. Oh yeah, and English mostly.
(32:00):
What do I need to know in Swahili?
You need to know when you said the tourist.
Thing is you say jumbo, which means hello.
It's so touristy. So you don't wanna be, don't
wanna be like a, a lame tourist.You wanna be like cool, you say?
Going to France and then me going around if you're going,
oh, bonjour, bonjour, bonjour, Bonjour, Bagu Cossong.
So instead of saying Jumbo, you say Mumbo, Mumbo and that means
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and then if someone says to you Mumbo, you say Paula, which
means I'm cool. Which means #5 mumbo #5 a little
bit or. You can learn to say Paula
Kachiki. Come on, Dizzy.
Paula Hachiki. Come on.
Dizzy. That means I'm cool like a
banana. Yeah, that's what I want to be
(32:46):
saying. I 'cause I say that in English
all the time. I Hey, Rabs, how you going?
I'm cool like a banana. I think we just say cool
bananas, don't we? I'm.
Cool. Like a banana?
Oh yeah. Yeah, you will make a Tanzanian
lose their mind if you say that they will laugh.
Will they cause will they laugh though?
Because they'll go, oh, look at white guy here who's just been
(33:08):
absolutely set up. I want you know Lars from
Metallica. Oh yeah.
Alright, so I was talking to Lars once.
What? Yeah, I'll just say that.
Such a name drop around. Yeah, look, it just casually
came out. I didn't even pause after I said
that sentence. So I was talking to Lars, and I
went, hey, Lars, MIT noun air rabbit.
And he went, what? And I went, MIT noun air rabbit,
(33:29):
I air Nebula. And he goes, your name is
Rabbit. And I went, yeah.
And he goes, and you're an apple.
I was like, no, is that what I said?
And I'd ask someone who spoke what is he Dutch or something,
and they absolutely set me up tosay I am an apple.
(33:50):
I didn't know. Well, I was a bit merry the
other night in Brisbane for the ACDC concert.
Oh yes, and I got into an Uber after many drinks and the driver
was clearly of East African heritage.
I asked Ian where are you from and he said I'm from Kenya and I
thought I'd show off in front ofmy cousin and I said do you know
(34:12):
Languani Bobby, which means my name is Bobby.
And he looked at me in the room and he said yes, I can see your
Uber account. Your might shut me down like
this day Dirks. Excuse me, what about the bit
that I just spoke? What my cousin was like, no,
(34:34):
that was smooth. What about the fact that I just
spoke Swahili? I know he just was like, yeah, I
can hear your account. Oh, that's the worst.
That was a real good moment to. Yeah, I think he'd been in
Australia too long, honestly. Tanzanians love it when you try
to speak their language. They love it.
What you're gonna get called a lot is Mazungu.
(34:55):
Oh. No, that's you.
Should remember that. I hear you get called in Mazungu
a lot of the time, which is. Yeah, Feroz calls me Mazungu
Kicha, which means crazy white person.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so.
What's my? What's?
Yeah, yeah, I get it. It's on your profile.
Yours is going to be mazungu kicha sana.
And it's. Very crazy white person.
(35:16):
Oh. I got upgraded.
What about rabbit? Do you know how to say that in
Swahili? Oh, I don't.
I know to say it in a few languages.
I'll message for Oz today and give him the great news that
you're coming. And I'll ask him what is Rabbit
in Swahili? Hey, listen, he'd better be
excited because I'm excited to meet him.
Like he won't even know who I am.
Oh, he knows who you are. Does he?
(35:38):
Like, he's been so proud to be on the podcast twice now and he
loved it. Well, in Swahili the word for
rabbit is kisunguda or kisungudaor sanguda.
See, I'll have to confirm because sometimes the Internet's
not always right. What?
You know how I know that at the zoo we always name these
animals. And I have to say to the Staffs,
that does not mean that. Oh.
(35:59):
Really. Yeah, one time someone called
one of the giraffes afoot. What?
And even swear words. I've had animals called swear
words at the zoo and I'm like I.Really.
And I've never said anything because I find it quite funny.
Yeah, couple cheeky fuckers overthere.
Oh no, it's not cheeky. Is it sneaky?
Stinky. Well, that's.
(36:19):
Maybe that can be your sweetly name though.
OK, well, I've learned a lot today, but hey, lock it in.
We'll figure out all the rest later.
And don't forget that we're buddies and we do the podcast
together. But I am now here to help you
every step of the way. So you'll be in, I'll add you to
private groups, Whatsapps, Facebooks.
You'll get all the information and I'll better help you plan
(36:42):
for it. Great, but also like some sort
of VIP status. Of course.
Yeah. And how do and how do all the
other guests know that I'm VIP status?
Is it like some sort of arm bandor something I can wear?
Maybe some sort of crayon I'll get you like.
A crayon, if it's not too much to ask.
I wasn't. I didn't want to go straight in
with crayon. I'll get the my Masai friends to
(37:02):
create some sort of crayon for you and little you know, some
big club that you can carry someanimal skins.
I just. You'd be like coming to America,
coming to Tanzania. Is it too much that I ask to be
dressed exactly the same as the Maasai warriors?
No, we will dress you up. Thank you.
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You'll get asuka, which is a traditional cloth.
But the funny part is, is the Maasai, they wear their
traditional cloth and you think they've put nothing under that,
and then they start jumping and you see their board shorts,
their soccer shorts. Yeah, they do love the the
football gear, don't they? And.
They'll pull out their brand newsmart coming.
I've noticed that actually. I think I've seen that in some
photos where they'll be on like a brand new but the.
(37:43):
Best bit is that a lot of these guys can afford to leave
Western, you know, moving to thecities and they don't want to.
They're so attached to the land and they're Castor less ways
that they choose to live their lifestyle.
And I think that's really beautiful and I hope it never
changes. Oh, there it is.
Done. Locked in.
It's happening now. This is the best Christmas
(38:05):
present ever for me to be honest.
Well, I haven't paid yet. Yeah, sure.
And one thing I forgot to say, you know your spot's not secure
till I get your 30% deposit. I already read it all about the
deposit, now it's non refundable.
You've read everything. Congratulations, you're the 1st
guest that's read everything in the brochure.
And that's why I deserve VIP status.
That's all I'm saying. Just why don't we do OK first
night of the tour? Let's just do like a quiz that
(38:27):
just runs through like terms andconditions and let's see he's.
Telling you right now the rest of my guests are screwed.
I've got no idea. And the.
And you know, I spend hours and hours putting that that stuff
together, like I've lost hours of my life putting together the
correct wording for terms and conditions or everything.
And honestly, I think you'll. Find it highly anxious, people
(38:50):
will read through stuff like that.
It's gonna be fun. And I think, 'cause I said to
someone just recently, what's great about when you do book a
holiday or a concert, you know, like the ACDC one, when did you
have to book for that? Are you advertised in June?
Yep, I mean some of them now they can be like near 18 months
out that. Metallica was a year out.
Yeah. But what that gives you is all
(39:13):
that time I've got through untilAugust 2026 to be going saying
to people like they'll say, hello, Sir, how can I help you
today? And I'll go, I'm going to Africa
in August. Now, when I say I'm going to
Africa, is that correct? I want to make sure that I'm not
saying things that are wrong. I mean Africa.
You're going, you're going to East Africa.
(39:33):
Oh, you're going to Tanzania andyou're going to the Serengeti,
the greatest place on earth. That's all the things I've been
saying. So amazing.
Well, thank you for inspiring me, for opening my eyes, opening
my world really, because as I say, it was never, ever on the
radar until none of this stuff, this whole pod van Media, all
(39:56):
these podcasts and producing all, everything that I'm doing
now starts. Started with you at Dubbo Zoo.
Likewise, Rabs, like you've changed my life.
This podcast has become way bigger and better than I ever
imagined. People listen to it all the
time. People like I don't even know
what message me about it. People love the stories.
They find it very authentic. They love your take on it like
(40:18):
they love the way you edit. Oh like someone messaged me
other day, one of my safari guests said.
The way Rabs puts your crazy verbal diarrhea together is
unbelievable. It's a skill.
I said that's because he's familiar with Verbal Diary.
He is. Versed in the language?
(40:38):
That's right. I may not speak Swahili, but I'm
going to teach the people over there some of my own special
language. All right, Well, that's us then.
All right, so now you've got to say Kwahedy.
Yeah, I don't trust you. Kwahedy says goodbye.
OK. Well then, Kwahedy.
Quahedy, Quahedy. Quahedy.
All right, I'll see you in Africa.
(40:59):
I'll probably talk to you beforethen.
Yeah, I think so. I think I've got to send you
some audio files today. Yeah.
Yeah, and I've got to send you some money.
Apparently. Just saying it doesn't just make
it happen. I'll meet you in Africa.
Finally, I've been sending you this money.
Now it's time for you to send memoney.
Podcast with Robert.
Podcast with Rabbit. I'm Rabbit.
I record this podcast inside a cute little retro caravan from
1967 that I've tore around all over the place.
Fan podcast with Rabbit. Hey there, pod fam.
When this episode comes out, it's just a few days before New
Year's Day, and I don't have your one that does New Year's
(00:24):
resolutions. I like what Julie said last
year, and I think she's been doing it for a few years and
that's that. She chooses a word and that's
going to be her word. That kind of everything goes
through that filter. And last year I remember her
word was choices. Well, I thought it was choice as
and I was like, yeah, everything's got to be choice as
this year. But no, it's about running
(00:46):
everything through that filter of choices.
For her. That was everything is a choice
and there's hard choices and there's easy choices.
And I don't know if you've heardMaureen's latest episode of the
Cosmic Scavenger Hunt. So that's a brand new podcast
I've just started bringing out under broadband media in the
last couple of weeks and episode3 from her.
(01:09):
OK, that's a text message from the person who I'm going to be
calling in just a second saying,can you give me 5?
I've got to get a cup of coffee.So episode 3 of the Cosmic
Scavenger Hunt, Maureen's talking all about how you've got
to listen to your body and you know, your body gives you
(01:29):
signals if you think about the things you are really putting
off doing and what that if you think about that thing right
now, right? So in the episode when she's
talking about, she talks about her taxes and Maureen says if
you go on a scale of how much you do not want to do it and
would hate the idea of even doing it, the bottom end of the
scale is -10 the top end can't wait, Love it.
(01:54):
Going to get straight into this is a +10.
So where in the scale, when you think about things that you have
to do, where does it sit on the scale?
And so she's never heard of the taxes, getting her taxes done
sat at about, I think it was a -, 9.
And she said even talking about it at the time in the podcast,
she could feel it in her chest. You know, there's things that
you've got to do and they just make you feel sick in the gut.
(02:16):
She has some tips and things in what you can do with those
things. And one of the very first one
actually was can you just get rid of it?
Can you just cross it off the list and go, no, I'm not going
to do it Tax. No, you you can't really do that
with that one. But I know there's things on my
To Do List that I could just go,yeah, I mean, I don't have to do
that. Is there an easy way to just
(02:37):
take it off your plate and my thing for this year, right.
So this all leads to my word forthis year, for when I say this
year, I mean 2026, right when we're going into and I think my
word is going to be surprise, surprise, it's 2 words can't
even get that right. And there's 2 words are do it.
Or maybe it's just do. There is no try only do.
(02:59):
Didn't Yoda say that? When he say there's not try, do
only there is. That was spot on.
I, I mean, there's no one here holding up scorecards right now,
but if there were -10 So my thing is, yeah, there there are
things that I think about doing.And there's one in particular
that I'm about to do right now. And I'm going to tick off one of
(03:22):
my things that I am nervous about doing.
I've been thinking about doing alot.
But because my word for 2026 is do.
I'm just, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it with you
listening here in just a second.So nervous, so out of my comfort
zone on so many different levels.
(03:42):
But once I commit, oh, there's no going back.
I've actually been talking to a few people about how I'm going
to be doing this thing, even though I hadn't committed to
doing this. I think I was just trying it on
to see what it felt like to be saying that.
And once the once this phone call is made and I commit to
this, then, oh, you bet you're going to hear about it for the
next seven months. All right, Just got the message
(04:06):
saying she's ready. Hello.
Bobby Jo, Hi. I'm coming to Africa with you in
August. What you.
Can you can come? To Africa because dogs are so
excited. Lock it in, I'm coming.
Is this still a spot? God, yeah, there's, there's
always a spot for you. No, 'cause I know I've looked at
(04:27):
like on the page and it says like the maximum numbers 'cause
I guess that's how many you can fit in the in the vehicles and
got some spots. Yeah, you'd put me like out on
the bonnet or something as. A.
You can drive the vehicle. Oh.
My God, don't even say that I would love to drive a vehicle.
We can arrange that, yeah. Awesome.
Have a little drive on the Serengeti.
OK, so for those who don't know you, which I don't know, I think
(04:50):
all of my audience know you, butBobby Jo has the Safari Life
podcast and I have had to listento her all of this year.
Making Africa sound well and safari in general just sound
like incredible, just amazing. And I have never in my life
(05:10):
considered even thought of goingon a safari.
I know people do it. That's not for me.
But the way you describe everything, and you know,
because it's all recorded there as you are actually on safari
with your guests and all that, you got me, man.
It has absolutely hooked me. I am so excited just to
introduce you to the people thatyou have heard of and the
stories like Kimani and Angela and for Rods.
(05:32):
That's what I was actually want to make them whole because I I'm
so I'm joining you in now. Listen, I've looked at the
itinerary of where we're going and everything, and we will go
through this because I want to bring everyone into this as to
what's actually going to be happening over the these ten
days in Tanzania. I've even been looking on the
map now, so I've got a rough idea where it is.
But I was worried that Kimani and Feroz and Engler weren't
(05:55):
going to be there. And these guys are celebrities
to me because I've heard them inso many episodes.
We all coming on the Copiline trip so that we're spending a
whole day with him in the field.Oh.
My God. And when I said to you jokingly
a couple of months ago, I think I said something about I'm
coming to the Northern Serengetior whichever 1 and you went to
the Southern Serengeti, the one you're jokingly talking about
(06:17):
coming on. But it's both, isn't it?
From the itinerary, we start in the South and move into the
north. Technically, you're right.
It is both. This is the first time I've ever
done this trip where we spend a few nights in and do 2, which is
where Kobe line has a lot of lines that they watch and then
we're going to head to the northto try to get a older Beast
Crossing. Yeah, what?
Was the defining moment what tipped you over the edge?
Because he was so unsure for a bit?
(06:38):
Like what was something that made you go, yes, I'm doing it?
I think the biggest thing because it's been from zero to
100 over the course of since when I met you in January this
year, it sat on 0 for, oh, months, even after I met you.
And and then when the podcast started, we probably sat at
about a 10%. But only in the last few months
(06:59):
has it gone just crazy because the adventures you've been
having, and I'm always saying topeople, Bobby Jo's life is
ridiculous. Look, it's just not normal.
It is this morning I'm sitting here with a cup of tea in.
Dubbo. I'm actually in Bathurst right
now. Oh, OK.
My wife has just been over in New Zealand with her mum.
(07:22):
So she went over, met up with her mum, they hired one of those
campervans, like a little littlecampervan for two people.
And the two of them, Thelma and Louise up the West Coast of the
South Island, seeing the photos that Sav was sending back.
And she was even doing like little videos.
And this is so not her right? Never records herself, never on
(07:42):
camera. And she was, she's filming
herself going a log in the van like doing.
Content Queen. She was doing Van Life vlogs for
me. This is so funny.
Hi guys, welcome to van life. She said at some point I'm so an
influencer. Now I'm like, I don't know what
you're influencing. Anyone else?
But what does staff think about you coming to WOW Serengeti?
(08:04):
I mean, she's been saying, yeah,you should do it.
It wasn't until, Yeah, seeing the way she was looking in those
videos did sit glowing, like having the best time doing this
thing with her mum that she has wanted to do for years and
years. And it was just the two of them.
Yeah, she had a great time. I do love travelling.
I want to do more of that. I'm on this whole thing now of
(08:25):
the you only live once and you don't want to be looking back
when you're too old to be travelling and going.
Kind of really should have done that.
That would have been awesome. And so it's kind of that trip.
And then my word for 2026 is 2 words.
It's do it or it's just do just kind of do stuff.
Stop thinking about it and goingshould I?
(08:46):
Oh, I don't know. Yeah.
I'm going to be so out of my comfort zone for one.
I'm coming by myself. Yeah, well, you know, my dad's
going to come, I think, so maybeI can pair you guys up to fly
over together Well. I'm God, I've got my head around
the thing of trouble. I used to.
I used to never do anything by myself, could not do.
I would never go to the movies and watch a movie by myself.
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Whereas some people love that gear.
Yeah, I mean, I travel all the time by myself, but you just
sort of get used to it. But yeah, I'll be already over
there unfortunately, so I can't fly out of Australia with you.
Yeah, well, so Seb's not interested at all.
She's got a thing about being eaten by lions or something.
I don't know. She's got, funnily enough,
through listening to your episodes, she said one day she's
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like, you know what? I would do a safari, but I'd do
one of the ones in India. Yeah, India's amazing.
Yeah, which again, never would have considered that.
What's going on safari in India,but tigers, right?
Yes, that's mostly the thing. And mines actually, and there
are mines there. Yeah, I know of people who've
been on safari somewhere in Africa and they say it's life
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changing. Well, yeah, I was gonna say it's
very cliche. Everyone says, you know, life
changing and and honestly, my life changed dramatically after
going there. I changed my whole career path.
Yeah, because you went, you first went in 2015.
No, actually my first trip was in 2004.
Oh. But you've been taking tours
since 2015, is it? Since 2013, but I got serious in
(10:14):
2015. Yeah, right.
Because I know that's been jokedabout a lot in the episode
because he keeps saying that nowthe guests are all saying.
Yeah, Maxine, she's such a smartass.
She's always giving trouble about it.
Wait, do you know on this tour that I'll be going?
Are there any names that I know?My, well, my dad, yeah, which is
gonna be amazing to see his reactions to things.
And I've got a wonderful lady traveling with me that I went to
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Antarctica. We've called Sam.
Antarctica. And then there's actually all
new guests, so it's a great tripwhen everyone is experiencing it
for the first time together. Because there's a lady here.
Sam's not free to Africa either.OK.
The lady on Central, is that Lynn on the Central Coast?
Yes, Lynn. Yeah, Lynn's at Irina.
And how many trips has she done with you?
She's coming up to her 20th. The next one she.
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Books. It's insane.
She wants to plan some sort of extravagant safari, I think.
And she only started doing the tours.
She only started in 2017. That was her first trip under a
decade. She's done almost 20 trips.
Jeez, what sort of things have you seen from people when
they're like doing their first one?
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Every little thing that they seejust blows their mind.
I remember seeing a guest see a pile of elephant poo for the
first time and losing it, that elephant poo.
And people go very quiet sometimes because they're taking
it all in. And sometimes I think that
they're not having a good time. And then I realized that they're
actually stuck for words. They're actually like in a
moment, an emotional where they're just absorbing it all.
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OK, so let's. Can they cry?
Oh really? I've seen lots of tears from
both men and women. It brings out the very best in
people and also the relationships that are formed
between each guest. Laughing and joking together,
socializing at dinner. It's just a really nice
experience are. They particular animals that
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sort of bring it out in people that they like.
What is it? Why are they getting so
emotional? Because there's something about
being in Africa, right? I think so.
And then you meet people that are living there with the
wildlife, let them aside. And the Kobe lion team, for
example, I think people realize that this is not The Lion King.
This is real. This is real life people living
with animals. There's no fences.
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They're living in these boma, these huts, and there's Buffalo
roaming around right next to your tanton.
People get blown away about the close proximity you get to
animals. I think people sort of think
they get to the Serengeti. All the animals are really far
away, but here sometimes they'rejust like, so close you can
smell them and you know, and theelephants get really close and
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it's exhilarating. And you had one where you were
sitting in like a Jeep and therewas a cheetah and a tree above
you. I've had many, not so much
cheetah, but lots of leopard andlions and trees above the
vehicle. But in 2013 I had a cheetah jump
onto the vehicle, put its head through the sunroof and smell
the top of my head. That's something now I know as
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being a bit more Safari mature and switched on that we
shouldn't encourage that behaviour.
No. That's something that probably
will never, ever happen again. You kept your head in the
situation. Yeah, it was just inquisitive.
It was no threat. But if that cheetah was to fall
off the vehicle and damage its leg, that's toast.
Yeah. It won't be able to hunt.
See, and that's what I love is that you are very ethical in
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everything that you're doing. Is that the right word?
It is, and sometimes I think I'mtoo ethical, like, you know, I'm
like the Karen of Safari, you know?
Ohh. God, that is the worst
description to give you this. No jokes, you know, but
sometimes I can be like I've, I can feel a guest going.
Come on now, Bobby Jay. Yeah, It's I stand by it.
That's my, that's who I am. Get a lot of that from me.
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I think. Like I know there was that big
thing with the wildebeest crossing, a huge thing earlier
this year where everyone was allout of their cars and there was
so many cars all right, sort of almost blocking where the
wildebeests were going and that and everyone's going off about
them being out of their cars. Look, I'm going to want to
stretch my legs. But I do also understand that,
well, there's lions around and stuff.
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Yeah, and you know what one of the animals people really get
crazy about is leopards, becausewhen you see a leopard, you can
say, oh, I don't really, you know, I'm a lion person or I
like, cheated. When you see a leopard and it
looks at you, it is the most stunning animal on the planet.
Yeah, it's really special animal.
Not really a cat guy. Oh, you'll become a cat guy.
Only cats of over a certain size.
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I can see you really loving the hyena, actually.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, well, they were
great on The Lion King. Mufasa, see it again, All right?
It's like 30 hours to get there,right?
Yeah, it's it's a long way, totally worse today.
Hey, you go. I can't imagine you sitting on a
plane for that long being entertained.
Bobby Joe, you. Have to medicate you heavily.
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I'll be taking some sort of horse tranquilizer that lasts 29
hours. The only part that concerns me
actually comes late in the trip,and that's when we're sitting
and it says in the itinerary, Sitting patiently.
Bring a book, waiting for the wildebeest to do their big
migration thing across the like.That sounds boring.
I love that you read that because I put that in to sort of
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let people know that we have to wait.
And it's good that you did. But you know what, we we can use
that time to interview for Ross and do record people and you can
do your thing, you know? You're going to put me to work
if you want to, Yeah. Look, I think it's a what is
known as a content goldmine. Yeah, I don't want you to be
(15:38):
working, but I just know what you're like.
I know you want to collect. You're going to have Content
Wonderland. Yeah, the fact that the only
part of the trip that concerns me is the bit where I'm not
doing a million things. It's the quiet time.
So going through it, landing at I love.
So this is something I've been telling people before I even
committed to it. I'm like, yes, I'll land at
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Kilimanjaro Airport because it'sa cool name.
And Kilimanjaro is directly above the airport.
No way. So when you land, if you get a
clear morning, you should be able to see the top of
Kilimanjaro. That's cool.
That's in Arusha. It's just on the outskirts of
Arusha. It's about 45 minutes from
Arusha, OK And we stay there thenight and a lovely accommodation
and then the next day we drive to the Serengeti.
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So. I do recommend that you arrive a
day early to get over jet lag. Yeah, I've read all the stuff I
know. God, you're good.
I've even read like about visas and things.
I've looked at what vaccinationsor things I might need.
Yeah, you'll need a yellow fever.
It's a lifetime vaccination now,so you just have 1:00 and you're
done. OK, maybe I've already had it.
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I've been out to Dubbo now. That was your rabies one mate.
Sorry people have Dubbo. I know I got a shot, I just
don't remember. You got a shot when you left.
How dare you, I only do that because you live there, so I
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loved Dubbo. Side note.
Yeah, I love it too. Yeah, living there.
Really, I was quite shocked at how much I enjoyed the weekend
in Dubbo. And that was when I met you,
God. Almost a year ago and now you're
booking a Safari. Yeah.
I mean, is that is that quick oris that slow?
I mean, I don't know, it took you a year.
To get me the book, great. From zero to 100.
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All right, what do we got? Northern Serengeti, August 2026.
Here we go. Let's go through this.
Flying into Tanzania, the place in Arusha looks very nice as
well. And then after the Southern
Serengeti, now that's a full dayof driving, but there's a bit to
see along the way. Oh, it's amazing.
When you're in the car for about10 hours, it just doesn't feel
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like it. So a lot of times the biggest
complaint I get about this type of trip is that we spend a lot
of time in the car, but it's you're just taking in so much
stuff. Like we go through towns, we
stop and meet people, we meet. Once we hit those big gates into
the park, it's like a game drivethe entire way.
It's the accommodation. What's that mean?
Like you're just seeing animals.So Game Drive is basically
wildlife viewing. We're driving along.
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We see elephants, we see giraffe, we see wildebeest, we
see a lion. Now when you sort of go through
the big gates, you're like Jurassic Park.
Yes, when you get to the gates of Ngorongoro and you get to go
to Ngorongoro and you get to. Say it the crater Gorongoro
Crater. Awesome.
The Nazi Goro. My friend used to call it the
Nazi Gorin Crater, this huge biggate, and I can anyway I can
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describe it. It's like you're entering
Jurassic Park. But it's not.
Exactly like that. You're entering a National Park,
but it's not fenced at all. No, but there's just this huge
big gate and an office that you get your tickets, or for all
organizers our tickets and you check into the park and then you
literally go from a paved Rd. onto dirt and then you're on the
dirt and you're not in civilization for the next 9
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nights. How far into the 10 hour drive
are the gates? Oh, only like 3 1/2?
Oh, and then you're inside the OK, so you're not driving for 10
hours and then you get. We drive to a rusha to Gordon
Guru and then we sort of go through villagers and
agriculture in areas which it's really beautiful, stop through a
coffee toilet break and then thenext stop is the big gates wait.
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So if there's no fences, what's stopping all the lions and
elephants and things from just cruising out of the National
Park and into the villages? Nothing.
And that's the biggest problem that kopi lion faces.
So most animals are fearful of people and villages and
communities. They don't necessarily come into
village areas, but you've got lines that will roam different
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areas. So they've had lines outside of
that area where they've had to, you know, relocate.
Yeah, I know what that's. I mean, we had a dog the other
day. It didn't have a collar on and
it was in our street and I was like, whoa.
So. Sorry.
I know what it you know, it's the same.
No, but I'm I know that's different you straight away
you're like this is not normal. How much do people research in
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that before they get there? Do you get some that fully
research everything and know where they're going and all?
That three types of people. There's people that research
absolutely everything and there's people that don't even
know which country we're going to.
I'm not sure which I'm gonna be yet 'cause I've started looking
into things and I didn't realiseexactly like where Tanzania was,
so it's up in the air. I'm gonna say Kenya.
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Yeah, it's right next to Kenya, Borders Kenya.
Is Uganda a little bit further north?
Yeah. So it's it's like Northwest.
Right. Yeah.
And then you've got Mozambique in the South.
Yeah, Tanzania is a pretty big country.
All right, so then we're going to spend a day with Kobe Lyon,
who are the team that put collars on Lions to track them.
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Yep. And why do they do that?
To track them and and learn about their habits.
We mostly go for nomadic males that are moving around and
sharing the landscape with people.
We can keep an eye on those males for their safety.
We can learn about their movements, but also the collars
act like a early warning detection system.
They look up the GPS every day and if there's a line close to a
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boomer, they can notify the people this line is in your
area. Please keep your livestock safe.
Yeah, I get notifications from Woolworths insurance if a hail
storm's coming that I should move my car undercover.
That's pretty impressive. It's.
Very similar, so I may not be surprised by things there.
I get the notifications every day from Engler, so I can see
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movements or maybe it's once a week actually, and I can see
where all the coloured lines have moved during that period.
How far? It's incredible how far they go.
A lot of the times they're not. If they're around females,
they'll hang in the area, but some of these big nomadic boys
can go from in down into the crater and back up, which is,
you know, up to 20 kilometres. Big boys, are they?
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Yeah, there's one particular boywhich I would love to see.
His name's Lamasque and he is a line that's been sneaking into
the crater, amazing with the females, and then sneaking back
out because there's big males down there.
If they get a hold of him, they'll kill him.
What now I'm I am going to drop a swear word, but it's allowed
because actually a scientific word.
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He's a sneaky fucker. That is not a scientific word.
It is honestly rabs. Google it.
A scientist come up with that name to describe a male in this
other species going in and mating.
Yeah, you hear me typing that in?
Under the radar, I never. Swear by evolutionary biologist
John Maynard Smith to describe subordinate males who take
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advantage of the opportunity to make with females while dominant
males are otherwise occupied, leading to reproductive success.
You sneaky fuckers. Boom, how cool that's that's
actually in scientific literature that.
Is so funny so. I hope we get to see him.
So actually spending some time with the Kobe Lyon team.
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Yep, and you'll learn how to track lines so they'll show you
how to use the radio telemetry gear that picks up the signal
from the collar. I've seen the photos.
Repairing. Standing up on top of a vehicle
holding the big TV aerial. That's it Will be helping repair
bomas, maybe treating injured livestock that have been
attacked by predators. I remember that one.
What were those ones that were ripping the sheep's tails off?
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Baboons. Baboons taking the tails for an
afternoon snack? That's just weird.
Yeah, so it'll be a good day andI'm really so proud to introduce
you to them. And then I see a photo here of
hippos. Oh yeah.
Heaps. Yeah, hopefully.
I mean, I shouldn't guarantee anything.
Yeah, I just guarantee a good time, OK?
Good. The chances are high and we may
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visit two different hippo ponds.The first pond is putrid and it
would literally take your breathaway when you pull up.
It's disgusting like just cause all hippos are living on top of
each other and it's fascinating.I.
Don't know if I want to go there.
You know what they're saying is if you sit in it too long, it
doesn't start to stink. Yeah, that's like Rotorua in New
Zealand. You go there and you're driving
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in, oh, 'cause it's all geothermal stuff.
It's all. Sulphur, Yeah.
Oh, it's like. Rotten eggs.
And then, I don't know, after a bit of time you're like, no, I
can't even smell it anymore. The second pond we go to though
is beautiful. We go there in the morning,
Golden Line and all the hippo. Yeah, it's a lovely spot.
We normally have morning tea there.
You're within like 5 metres of ahippo.
What? You're on the land and they're
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in the water and they don't feelso threatened when they're in
their spot. Do we get out of the vehicles at
any point? Like at this kind of thing you
don't get out and Yep. When we view the hippos at the
second pond, that's a designatedarea where we can have a picnic,
so we'll be out on foot. Now, a lot of people get killed
by hippos, apparently, is what I've heard.
Everyone likes to tell me that when I say they're my favorite
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animal in the world, and they have been since I was a little
kid. And I say, look, if I got eaten
by a hippo, that's fine. Like I would, you know, it's the
kind of thing people would go, well, he went doing the thing
that he loved. Yeah, I don't want that to
happen. Yeah, but just know that, you
know? That's going to be messy, yeah.
And you're worried about cleaning up?
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No, the only way you're going toget in trouble with the hippos
if you get between it and the water, or if you if it gets a
fright, most things will run away from you, but if it feels
cornered, it will just come at you with its mouth open.
Yeah, and they open their mouth wide.
I remember because the day I metyou I was throwing cabbages into
one. Remember I told you that they
got the second biggest light pressure on the planet behind
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the crocodile? Yeah, crazy.
Have you been to Guandalan Bowling Club?
They're right there on the shores of Lake Macquarie.
They do delicious meals upstairsin the Foreshore Bistro and
Cafe, which is run by the Dish Catering Group, so you know,
it's good stuff and you can dineout on the balcony looking out
over the lake. It is beautiful.
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They got the cute little foreshore kiosk for a coffee and
snacks right by the jetty. The entertainment's top notch.
They got Friday night seafood raffles and Sunday sessions with
live music in the beer garden. You wanna find out what's
happening at the club, check outtheir Facebook page or visit
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And you get all the stuff from them that you'd expect to.
You get plants, you get all the Weber stuff, you get all the
still here, the amazing principal kitchens, but it's the
stuff that you don't expect like.
This lady comes in and she's hired a goat but to clear some
lands and she wanted to work outa way how to table this go.
If I come up with an idea of a bit of stainless steel wire
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between 2 trees, like a zip linebetween the two trees to the
goat, she took my advice. I don't know how it turned out,
but she was very happy with the service that she got.
That's what she got. And the mighty helpful King
Cumber Minor Gen. Podcast with Rabbit.
And then we go to stay in some tents and now I wasn't really
(26:38):
sure about staying in tents, butI've now seen the photos of them
and there's a bougie tent it's. Glamping we.
Got Wi-Fi there. Yes.
So some of the accommodation, wehave Wi-Fi in our tent.
I think it's ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, I won't highlight
that too much when I'm talking about I bet I want it to sound
like I'm camping in a swag. Like what bear?
Grylls Yeah, something like that.
And then we go on from there. So we've seen, I mean, what have
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we seen by this point? Probably.
We've seen lions, especially forwith Kofi, lion, giraffes,
baboons, elephants, maybe a leopard in the central Serengeti
as we go through, hippos, lots of birds, hyena.
The thing we haven't really seenyet is the migration.
The wildebeest migration. Yeah, and that's what so many
people go for. That and people would go and
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then they could spend a week, they've only got a week in
Africa or whatever, and then they just don't see it and they
go home. Right?
Yeah, because it's not a set week where they do it or
anything. No, I mean, a lot of travel
agencies sell it as like, oh, they're going to be crossing
that river between July and October.
And it just depends on what's happened with the weather.
And you know, everyone talks about El Nino.
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That'll fix the all the base migration.
Yeah. I mean this year you had the
ultimate where you saw like 50,000 of them or something
crossing all at once but after acouple.
Days in the past, I'd like multiple crossings.
Like not that big, but nice sortof ones, but like several.
That was our only crossing we saw and it was a mammoth
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crossing. It's funny because that one I
like, that's the highlight of this trip, right?
That's what a lot of people bookfor.
They want to go and see the migration.
They want to see the crossing ofthe Mara River.
But I guess it's one of those things where like, if you're
there and you see it, is that like blows your mind.
I think you'd have to be not have a pulse if you didn't get
excited by it. Like I think anyone who's not
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even into animals that witnessedthat, the sounds, the sights,
the energy, it's just like you can see these animals are
fighting for their life and you get so invested in it.
So I think even if you're not into Africa or animals, it would
blow your mind. And there's crocodiles in the
river and there's lions on the banks, but they have to go
across, right? Because this is there.
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They're moving to where the grass is.
Yes, well, they're following therain and this is the thing a lot
of people think. They cross over it and that's
it. They're constantly waiting to
see where the rains going. So they want the fresh grass.
They need the best part of the grass for their calves because
they're gonna be giving birth when they get back down to the
southern Serengeti. Wow.
And that's why they go to the southern Serengeti, because the
rain ends up down there. They want that short grass.
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Yeah, I love the video. You're driving along and one of
your open top safari vehicles and it just started pouring down
with rain and you're going out. Bless the rain.
That's a little down, Maruti. Yeah, we're not gonna be in that
car. They're gonna be a very
comfortable car that we can totally pull the roof down, do
the windows up and be not wet. Oh yeah, I'm looking at.
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I think this would be the vehicle.
It's quite a big Spacey thing, giant windows along the side.
It's a cruiser, Land Cruiser, Feroz, a baby.
And he's also a mechanic, so he's very good at fixing things.
You know, we get a flat tire or we get a broken fuel line.
He's a magician with the hands. It's good to hear, and that's
kind of it for the end of the trip.
Is it? It's the migration, It's the
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wildebeest crossing, but you seeplenty.
Of stuff you forgetting the highlight the last day.
Go on, say it. On go to go to Crater.
He nailed it. I just had to Scroll down a bit
further. Right.
So you go down and let's read here.
Today we spend a full day exploring the world famous and
good or good or crater. I did it better the first time.
Yeah. The world famous and good or
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good or good. That's really good.
But I see. You take on an African accent
all of a sudden. It's a little bit Indian.
Unfortunately, it's just every accent that I do comes out a
little bit Indian. So we're going to the crater.
We'll just call it the crater. Main focus will be searching for
the resident black rhinos and tusker elephants are the ones
those massive tusks that are a plot while keeping an eye out
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for the many lion prides and smaller cats such as the Serval
that call the crater home. A paradise for landscape
photography, sweeping views of the grassy plains framed by the
towering crater walls. It is, it's like the most
magical place. Like you've got all these
different ecosystems in in one spot and it's about 30
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kilometres across. So it's a big area, but you've
got Savannah, you've got woodland, you've got Salt Lake,
so you've got flamingos, and then you've got swamp lands
where you've got really old elephants that their teeth have
worn down there and being, you know, the soft grass and the
swamp. You've got hippo pools and then
you've got these huge, big steepwalls.
To me, the best way to describe it for any Aussie that's
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listening is that it's like the Blue Mountains.
Oh yeah. It looks like that beautiful
Blue Mountain look, you know. Yeah, over 400 species of birds.
Big one for the what are they called?
Burton? Not birders.
Twitches. Twitches.
I might have to become a twitcher between now and.
Then oh, you're gonna be twitching your butt off.
Twerking. Twerking, twerking.
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I like it. Oh, wow.
So that's the whole trip. It's 10 days.
Yeah, lock it in. You'll have to start polishing
up on your Swahili. Oh yeah, I did learn a few
phrases when I was editing. But then you moved on from there
and you went to Uganda and I haven't heard as much Swahili
being spoken in the episodes lately.
They speak Luganda. Oh yeah, and English mostly.
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What do I need to know in Swahili?
You need to know when you said the tourist.
Thing is you say jumbo, which means hello.
It's so touristy. So you don't wanna be, don't
wanna be like a, a lame tourist.You wanna be like cool, you say?
Going to France and then me going around if you're going,
oh, bonjour, bonjour, bonjour, Bonjour, Bagu Cossong.
So instead of saying Jumbo, you say Mumbo, Mumbo and that means
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and then if someone says to you Mumbo, you say Paula, which
means I'm cool. Which means #5 mumbo #5 a little
bit or. You can learn to say Paula
Kachiki. Come on, Dizzy.
Paula Hachiki. Come on.
Dizzy. That means I'm cool like a
banana. Yeah, that's what I want to be
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saying. I 'cause I say that in English
all the time. I Hey, Rabs, how you going?
I'm cool like a banana. I think we just say cool
bananas, don't we? I'm.
Cool. Like a banana?
Oh yeah. Yeah, you will make a Tanzanian
lose their mind if you say that they will laugh.
Will they cause will they laugh though?
Because they'll go, oh, look at white guy here who's just been
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absolutely set up. I want you know Lars from
Metallica. Oh yeah.
Alright, so I was talking to Lars once.
What? Yeah, I'll just say that.
Such a name drop around. Yeah, look, it just casually
came out. I didn't even pause after I said
that sentence. So I was talking to Lars, and I
went, hey, Lars, MIT noun air rabbit.
And he went, what? And I went, MIT noun air rabbit,
(33:29):
I air Nebula. And he goes, your name is
Rabbit. And I went, yeah.
And he goes, and you're an apple.
I was like, no, is that what I said?
And I'd ask someone who spoke what is he Dutch or something,
and they absolutely set me up tosay I am an apple.
(33:50):
I didn't know. Well, I was a bit merry the
other night in Brisbane for the ACDC concert.
Oh yes, and I got into an Uber after many drinks and the driver
was clearly of East African heritage.
I asked Ian where are you from and he said I'm from Kenya and I
thought I'd show off in front ofmy cousin and I said do you know
(34:12):
Languani Bobby, which means my name is Bobby.
And he looked at me in the room and he said yes, I can see your
Uber account. Your might shut me down like
this day Dirks. Excuse me, what about the bit
that I just spoke? What my cousin was like, no,
(34:34):
that was smooth. What about the fact that I just
spoke Swahili? I know he just was like, yeah, I
can hear your account. Oh, that's the worst.
That was a real good moment to. Yeah, I think he'd been in
Australia too long, honestly. Tanzanians love it when you try
to speak their language. They love it.
What you're gonna get called a lot is Mazungu.
(34:55):
Oh. No, that's you.
Should remember that. I hear you get called in Mazungu
a lot of the time, which is. Yeah, Feroz calls me Mazungu
Kicha, which means crazy white person.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so.
What's my? What's?
Yeah, yeah, I get it. It's on your profile.
Yours is going to be mazungu kicha sana.
And it's. Very crazy white person.
(35:16):
Oh. I got upgraded.
What about rabbit? Do you know how to say that in
Swahili? Oh, I don't.
I know to say it in a few languages.
I'll message for Oz today and give him the great news that
you're coming. And I'll ask him what is Rabbit
in Swahili? Hey, listen, he'd better be
excited because I'm excited to meet him.
Like he won't even know who I am.
Oh, he knows who you are. Does he?
(35:38):
Like, he's been so proud to be on the podcast twice now and he
loved it. Well, in Swahili the word for
rabbit is kisunguda or kisungudaor sanguda.
See, I'll have to confirm because sometimes the Internet's
not always right. What?
You know how I know that at the zoo we always name these
animals. And I have to say to the Staffs,
that does not mean that. Oh.
(35:59):
Really. Yeah, one time someone called
one of the giraffes afoot. What?
And even swear words. I've had animals called swear
words at the zoo and I'm like I.Really.
And I've never said anything because I find it quite funny.
Yeah, couple cheeky fuckers overthere.
Oh no, it's not cheeky. Is it sneaky?
Stinky. Well, that's.
(36:19):
Maybe that can be your sweetly name though.
OK, well, I've learned a lot today, but hey, lock it in.
We'll figure out all the rest later.
And don't forget that we're buddies and we do the podcast
together. But I am now here to help you
every step of the way. So you'll be in, I'll add you to
private groups, Whatsapps, Facebooks.
You'll get all the information and I'll better help you plan
(36:42):
for it. Great, but also like some sort
of VIP status. Of course.
Yeah. And how do and how do all the
other guests know that I'm VIP status?
Is it like some sort of arm bandor something I can wear?
Maybe some sort of crayon I'll get you like.
A crayon, if it's not too much to ask.
I wasn't. I didn't want to go straight in
with crayon. I'll get the my Masai friends to
(37:02):
create some sort of crayon for you and little you know, some
big club that you can carry someanimal skins.
I just. You'd be like coming to America,
coming to Tanzania. Is it too much that I ask to be
dressed exactly the same as the Maasai warriors?
No, we will dress you up. Thank you.
(37:22):
You'll get asuka, which is a traditional cloth.
But the funny part is, is the Maasai, they wear their
traditional cloth and you think they've put nothing under that,
and then they start jumping and you see their board shorts,
their soccer shorts. Yeah, they do love the the
football gear, don't they? And.
They'll pull out their brand newsmart coming.
I've noticed that actually. I think I've seen that in some
photos where they'll be on like a brand new but the.
(37:43):
Best bit is that a lot of these guys can afford to leave
Western, you know, moving to thecities and they don't want to.
They're so attached to the land and they're Castor less ways
that they choose to live their lifestyle.
And I think that's really beautiful and I hope it never
changes. Oh, there it is.
Done. Locked in.
It's happening now. This is the best Christmas
(38:05):
present ever for me to be honest.
Well, I haven't paid yet. Yeah, sure.
And one thing I forgot to say, you know your spot's not secure
till I get your 30% deposit. I already read it all about the
deposit, now it's non refundable.
You've read everything. Congratulations, you're the 1st
guest that's read everything in the brochure.
And that's why I deserve VIP status.
That's all I'm saying. Just why don't we do OK first
night of the tour? Let's just do like a quiz that
(38:27):
just runs through like terms andconditions and let's see he's.
Telling you right now the rest of my guests are screwed.
I've got no idea. And the.
And you know, I spend hours and hours putting that that stuff
together, like I've lost hours of my life putting together the
correct wording for terms and conditions or everything.
And honestly, I think you'll. Find it highly anxious, people
(38:50):
will read through stuff like that.
It's gonna be fun. And I think, 'cause I said to
someone just recently, what's great about when you do book a
holiday or a concert, you know, like the ACDC one, when did you
have to book for that? Are you advertised in June?
Yep, I mean some of them now they can be like near 18 months
out that. Metallica was a year out.
Yeah. But what that gives you is all
(39:13):
that time I've got through untilAugust 2026 to be going saying
to people like they'll say, hello, Sir, how can I help you
today? And I'll go, I'm going to Africa
in August. Now, when I say I'm going to
Africa, is that correct? I want to make sure that I'm not
saying things that are wrong. I mean Africa.
You're going, you're going to East Africa.
(39:33):
Oh, you're going to Tanzania andyou're going to the Serengeti,
the greatest place on earth. That's all the things I've been
saying. So amazing.
Well, thank you for inspiring me, for opening my eyes, opening
my world really, because as I say, it was never, ever on the
radar until none of this stuff, this whole pod van Media, all
(39:56):
these podcasts and producing all, everything that I'm doing
now starts. Started with you at Dubbo Zoo.
Likewise, Rabs, like you've changed my life.
This podcast has become way bigger and better than I ever
imagined. People listen to it all the
time. People like I don't even know
what message me about it. People love the stories.
They find it very authentic. They love your take on it like
(40:18):
they love the way you edit. Oh like someone messaged me
other day, one of my safari guests said.
The way Rabs puts your crazy verbal diarrhea together is
unbelievable. It's a skill.
I said that's because he's familiar with Verbal Diary.
He is. Versed in the language?
(40:38):
That's right. I may not speak Swahili, but I'm
going to teach the people over there some of my own special
language. All right, Well, that's us then.
All right, so now you've got to say Kwahedy.
Yeah, I don't trust you. Kwahedy says goodbye.
OK. Well then, Kwahedy.
Quahedy, Quahedy. Quahedy.
All right, I'll see you in Africa.
(40:59):
I'll probably talk to you beforethen.
Yeah, I think so. I think I've got to send you
some audio files today. Yeah.
Yeah, and I've got to send you some money.
Apparently. Just saying it doesn't just make
it happen. I'll meet you in Africa.
Finally, I've been sending you this money.
Now it's time for you to send memoney.
Podcast with Robert.
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