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August 14, 2025 • 18 mins

I was super excited to show Julie my new party trick: an AI bot that writes songs about our episodes on the spot. I just needed a subject.

Enter Bev, a lovely ceramic artist we met on the beach. Perfect, right? Except... in my excitement, I told the AI her name was Val...

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(00:03):
It's the pod thing. Quick fix with.
Rabbit hello. Coffee.
No, no, no, it's not a coffee bag.
There's definitely. Sorry I.
Do have a coffee bag? No, hey, don't.
Would you like a coffee? Karen, there's no.
Coffee. No, I Could I?
You could. Not imagine.
He's not a barista. 44 episode, It's only a pod, how hard can it
be 44 episodes in of you wantinga coffee and then I just give it

(00:27):
to a some. Random lady.
That comes by and goes, oh, can I have a coffee?
You look like you're wedding. Oh, no, no, no.
I'm just collecting. Oh, OK.
Are you an artist? Yes.
Oh, I love that. So you're gonna use this in your
artworks? I'm a ceramic artist, so I'm.
I use it in my pot on my pots, so for texture and.

(00:49):
Bit of fibre. The salt.
To oh. Fibre sometimes.
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Wow.
Yeah. OK.
And a local artist. Yeah.
Where's your stuff? Where can we see your stuff?
You've got a. Studio at home.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, how beautiful.
Oh, on Bev's ceramics. What is it?
Bev's. Bev's Ceramics?
Never. Post Well, come on, Bev.

(01:09):
Get your act together. Get on your Bev.
On your Bev. Lovely to see.
We're podcasting. Oh, are you?
Yeah. To who tips God host hopefully
someone Yeah. What should podcast it.
We like to talk about ceramics and no, not really.
Well, yeah, but yeah, no, no, I'm good.
Thank you for offering me some of your weeds.

(01:31):
See you a bit. Next weekend.
Now we're presuming that her name's Bev.
Well, maybe she's Incognito. What if she works for Bev's
Ceramics and her name's? Karen, she's definitely.
She's a Bev, yeah. You can't send someone out to
choose your weed for yourself Ceremos.
You gotta pick your own weed. That's what Bully always told
me. OK, I can take this somewhere

(01:54):
now, just just hang with me a second.
You're. Really gonna give her a coffee.
Yeah, I was. It would have been funny, right?
This is so funny. Now hang on, I'm just going to
Oh yeah, I should fix the cameraup well.
I mean, yeah, did you tell us to?
Zoom in on you. No, just me.
I've never told a camera to zoomin on me, usually the opposite.

(02:17):
While I type this in and get this ready, can you just
describe your outfit for today? Well, I don't always wear a pink
fur coat, but when I do, I wear it to the beach.
Yeah, well, I came to go swimming, so I've got my cozies
and I've got my overalls and I've got my fur coat, 'cause
it's cold. It's not real fur.

(02:38):
It's not real fur. Don't at me.
I thought a pink polar bear had been killed for that.
No, no, no. I've never seen one of those.
A pink polar bear. Yeah.
Yeah, it's because they've all been made.
And I'm wearing my wet suit socks, which is the, the I've
never worn them in the water yet, but I have them because I,

(02:58):
we don't, we don't wear wet suits in my swimming group.
Are you? Kidding in this temperature.
We don't wear wet suits so I I'mpushing the envelope by having
wet suit socks. But you know, I tried one on
once. A wet suit 'cause I thought, you
know, I'm just gonna wear a wet suit because it's too cold, not
too a night. So I went to try one on.
Have you ever tried on a wet suit?
Yeah, years ago. Years ago, yeah.

(03:20):
Boy, you gotta really suck things in to get into those.
Once you're in, you can look fabulous so.
No. Well, well, when I tried one on,
I got it up to like my thighs and I got stuck there, so and
like, they're expensive, right? So I didn't wanna pull too hard
on it in case I ripped it and had to buy it.
And then I couldn't get them down and I couldn't get them up.

(03:44):
And it was like trying to stuff sausage mints into a sausage
casing that's couldn't go anywhere.
And then I'm just like, well, this is my life now.
And mix outside Gargi right in there.
And I'm like, I'm probably goingto need dinner.

(04:05):
That was the last time I ever tried.
So then when I saw that there were wet suit socks, I thought,
well, you know, wet suits cover everything except your feet.
And really it's my feet that getthe coldest.
So I went and got these and. Obviously you've hit that point
in your life where you just don't care what you look like.
They must be. Nice born this.
Way it must be nice to get to that point.

(04:26):
I am a slave to the fashion gods.
Which gods? Name your God.
Which is the one that only has one eye because.
It's it's like. A Cyclops.
But a pirate cyclops. So he's a cyclops, but he's got

(04:46):
a patch over it. That's the gods.
You're a fashion slave too, my friend.
Oh man, all right. Describe some like.
What sort of music would Val like?
Who's Val? Bev, Bev.
Sometimes I like to call it Val,but sure.
Bev would probably enjoy. Or folk.

(05:08):
A little bit of. Style of genre.
Simon and Garfunkel no. No, a style or a genre not.
American folk. Done American.
So when I get the pod bands to write songs, I have to just give
them a couple of instructions, OK, as to what they're doing.

(05:28):
So I've just been texting Keith,who's the lead singer.
Keith, eh? Yeah, I reckon he's into a bit
of a country and western. Well, you already said American
folk. Yeah, I know.
So so so. Except American folks.
Probably the the the more trendyway to put it.
Yeah, yeah, I was talking about Val just before.

(05:50):
Bev. Yeah, but Val's in coming in
three, two. Hello there.
Good morning. How are you doing next to me?
Oh yes, this looks very. Cozy.
Oh it is cosy. You're beanie.
Your beanie looks cosy. Thank you.
You wanna talk cosy? Did you do that yourself?
I'd like to put. You feed into that.
No. Well, Julie does a bit of that.

(06:10):
Do you do a bit of that? Crochet, crochet.
Yeah, Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's OK, it's OK. We're all about the the drop in.
We meet 'cause we haven't been going to our over 50s so we meet
here for a walk. 07/30. That, hence the beanie.
What's your over 50s? It's a exercise.
Class over 50s Oh nice. Do you check people for ID?

(06:33):
Well, 'cause you. Can just tell if I if you're
older. Than me.
So. Yeah.
Would you invite Rabbit to your group?
Yeah. Cool.
No, what you're meant to say there is.
No, no, no, no, of course not. We wouldn't have him in because
we're all older and isn't it funyou go along to a group like
that? Like I look forward to playing
like seniors rugby or something,but getting at the at the

(06:57):
youngest age. So you've got older dudes and
and then and I'm the young fast.Guy when we got when we
travelled with the, the beautiful old caravan that my
parents have and we'd pull into the caravan parks and we we
would drop the average age of those crowds by about 20.
Years. They're all like, look at these
young whippersnappers coming in here.
Yep, there's you. Yep.

(07:17):
We're there with all the grey nomads.
I think we actually are grey nomads.
They're looking at the whales while they're sitting there
doing. That always yeah, we'll get to
them they're not going anywhere they.
Are. Actually literally heading north
good to. Meet you.
Meet you. Thank you.
Bye. Bye.

(07:38):
That's Val. I don't know that I just.
I know. Yeah, OK, to the pod band.
And if you could fire up a song about now remember it is it is
Bev's ceramics. But I thought Val.
'S ceramics down at Terrible Beach.
I thought her name was Val. Weird shapes, weird glaze, weird

(07:58):
teacher gathering weeds from therocks lost in creation.
Lost in prayer. Tides rolling in salty rib.
Tight hands, rough hands, raw hands.
Season molded dreams from the greedy clay.

(08:23):
Broken pieces scattered like truth.
Blades crash like screens from the heart.
Heavy, heavy. Shard Every crack speaks of
pain. If we Shard, every crack speaks
of pain. My fears.
Sculptures stand in. Defiance of Storms, Val.

(08:49):
Val Ceramics, unfortunately. See, this is this is where
artificial intelligence meets genuine stupidity.
And this is the thing right whenpeople freak out about AIAI is
only as smart as the person inputting the data so.

(09:11):
It's never that I. Oh, there's AI and then there's
LOI, which is lack of intelligence.
And that's what I that's what I bring to it.
But yeah, just from telling my pod band who are now set up in
the van at any time I need them.All I typed in while you were
talking just then was, you know,Val Ceramics.

(09:31):
Unfortunately, her name's Bev. But anyway, so it's not a it's
not great for her, for her business, no.
And I just, you know, gathering weeds from down by the rocks and
turning them into. Shards of heart.
Yeah, something like that. Oh, just like that.
Like. Ceramics down at Terrigal.
Beach weird shapes, weird glaze,weird teacher.

(09:57):
Weird teacher. I feel like I'm here to
demonstrate. The things that could go wrong.
The limitations of AI feel like.This whole pod van is you
demonstrating how things can go wrong.
My entire life has been a lessonin what not to do I I feel like

(10:20):
anyway, so if you'd like to hirethe pod van.
And, you know, just tell Rebs, you know, maybe half an hour
earlier than you wanna start if you get him to turn things on.
Yeah, it does take a while to get things all set up and stuff.
So yeah. So what are you do going back to

(10:40):
now that I've got this? It is so incredible the songs
that it can write about the episodes it will find.
And when I say do do. You tell it to listen to the
episode, yes. Oh my God, I tell it to
transpiring, isn't it? Oh yeah.
When we get to that episode. Yeah, OK, probably when I tell
it to transcribe the audio from episode 1 of the Pod Van podcast

(11:05):
and write a song in the style ofsuch and such, Bang just comes
out with it. And so now each episode is going
to wrap up with a song about theepisode.
Oh my God. Now, because this didn't exist
until now, we're going back. So episode one has now been re
uploaded and it now has the songon the end of the episode.
Wow. And then next, next time we're

(11:26):
doing another one, episode 2 will also get us new one.
So you can go back and revisit the old episodes, but now with
the song on the. End of That's so funny.
Oh my gosh, I'll have to listen.Unbelievable.
Do you want to hear the song from episode?
One, yes, you know I do, yeah. I also re recorded the intro to
episode 1 because I didn't know how bad it was at the time.

(11:51):
Yeah, it's funny. My tone has changed completely
and everything. So the intro to episode 1, I was
very low key. I was very quiet.
Ohh yeah, and listen to. Were you having a?
Having a moment. Having a blue day I.
Think I was just very self-conscious.
Ohh, You know, of just sitting with the microphone talking to
myself, which is weird because that's what I've done in radio

(12:11):
for a long time. Yeah, no, generally I've got
someone opposite me, but for that bit I record it with just
me explaining what's coming up in the episode.
And I was very self-conscious ofpeople in the house hearing me
as I was recording because. That house, now you're out here
in the public. Yeah, just shouting.
Yeah, completely different tone.And what I'm seeing in the data
is that a lot of people when they're finding the podcast are

(12:32):
going back to episode 10 and I'mlike, you're starting at episode
1 and you're hearing where it runs out of power and, and the
mics a bit dodgy and they cut out every time we laugh.
Cluster, yeah. It doesn't.
You go. I don't know if this is for me,
so I put a bit more of a disclaimer on the start of the
episode 1 go like ATV show that you go.

(12:55):
Just give it a few episodes. But can I, can I tell you that
sometimes that sometimes people like to hear things stuff up?
I, if I do a cooking demo and things go wrong, which they
always do, Yeah. I, I have people come up at the
end and go, oh, I love seeing that.
It makes me feel better about what I do in my kitchen.
Yes, I'm here to serve. Yeah, I mean, the people who

(13:18):
hired me hired me 'cause I was Australia's first MasterChef.
Yeah, but if me flipping my frittata and it breaks all over
the floor. Yeah, helps you.
Yes, then you are my audience. Yeah, absolutely.
So you're helping people, Rabs? OK, the worst, maybe I, you know
what I'd be, I'd be helping people who are starting their
own podcast. Yeah, or, or have their own
podcast and they listen to my episode 1 and they go, oh, OK,

(13:40):
now I'm doing fine, yeah. But just in life, just, you
know, I mean, maybe you should put it all together and call it
the montage of mediocrity and, and make people feel better
about themselves. Shame I've already named the
podcast. That's a phrase from a friend
who recaps MasterChef episodes, Ben Pogi.
And you know how there's, they really focus in on the real good

(14:02):
dishes, and they focus in on thereally disastrous dishes.
Yeah. And the others are just a flash
flash flash of everyone else. Oh funny, he calls that the.
Montage of mediocrity. Oh.
That's great. Yeah.
Which is a good place to be in? Oh, master chef.
Hell yeah, yeah, if you're not down the bottom, you you where
you need to be. Podcast.

(14:23):
With Robbie. This is the song that is now on
the end of episode 1. And in future I'm not gonna go
and play them. You gotta go and find them on
the actual episodes. But considering it was our first
ever episode. OK, Do you remember the things
from that one? Like what happened through it?
No, no, it was only a few guys. No, it was only a few months

(14:44):
ago. Seven or eight years ago.
It definitely wasn't. Boy, time flies when you're
closer to the end than you are to the beginning.
Doesn't everyday just fly by? You know I'm not going to live
to 106. No, you probably are.
Thanks, like a cockroach bite mehard to kill.

(15:05):
All right, let's see if this jogs your memory.
OK? It's actually a real catchy
song. Welcome.
To the pub and we're kicking offthe show rabbits on the mic and
he's ready to go Julie Goodwin'shere she's the master of cuisine
together with and you know what I mean ready to wait to a

(15:29):
podcast dream in a vintage fan it's a brand new scene laughter
and stories all the way TuneIn listen up we got a lot to say
open podcast rolling down the core rabbit and Julie watch the
stories unfold laugh too low anda little bit of life.

(15:51):
TuneIn, join us. It's gonna be all.
This is mad. Yeah, I'm.
Going to bring out an album. 34 years on the radio da.
Now we look back with the whole new star talking about life in
the highs and lows, mental health, laughter and everything

(16:12):
that goes. Building connection, sharing the
truth from the Central Coast to wherever you choose, every
episode of Journey would say with laughter and stories.
There's no mistake popping podcast.
I've mentioned laughter quite a lot time it really easily.

(16:33):
Says and a little bit of light tune is showing up.
It's gonna be all. Right.
I wonder what the transcript looks like.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha.
Sun shining bright, conversations flowing morning to

(16:53):
night from Vincent's caravan to hot bell tails.
Rabbit and Julie were friendshipof.
Their key change? There is some tenuous rhymes in
there back alone and a. Little bit of lights tuning.

(17:13):
Join us. It's going to be.
Not. Bad.

(17:35):
Not a bad first show there. You go montage of mediocrity,
we're on it. It even said 62,000 and one help
us help it grow or something like that because we talked
about how 10. My God. 2001 listeners.
Yeah, in the very first episode,you did all that from just

(17:56):
listening to the episode. That's mad.
That's mad. I'm having so much fun playing
around with that I. Bet I tried to have fun playing
around with it. I I asked for a gladiator with a
kelpie and I got a six legged horse and A1 legged woman that's
wearing armour. And then I asked it to describe
our last podcast down at the beach, and I put in a few

(18:19):
keywords and it had a dog in a dumpster fire on the beach that
way, yeah. That's.
About. Sometimes it nails it.
Alright, that'll do us for this quick fix.
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