Burnout is the Baseline: How PR Pros Can Cope with Katie Neal

Alex Greenwood sits down with certified executive coach and PR veteran Katie Neal to tackle one of the PR world’s dirtiest secrets: burnout.

What makes PR a perfect storm for overwork and perfectionism? How do you tell “normal busy” from “I-can’t-get-out-of-bed” exhaustion? Katie breaks it down with empathy and no-nonsense advice.

In this episode you’ll learn:

• The Burnout Spectrum: From mild fatigue to full-blown collapse—where do you fall?

• PR’s Pressure Cooker: Why tight deadlines, client expectations, and the 24/7 news cycle fuel workaholism

• Boundary Bootcamp: Simple, actionable ways to carve out “off” time and actually keep it

• Values-Driven Work: How aligning on what matters most can guard against depletion

• Leadership’s Role: What managers must do (and stop doing) to foster a truly sustainable culture

Whether you’re just starting to feel the heat or you’ve already hit the wall, Katie’s insights will help you reclaim your energy—and your career.

• Visit the Katie Neal Coaching & Consulting website.
• Follow Katie on LinkedIn.

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This episode was recorded and mixed at Green Shebeen Studios in beautiful Kansas City