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I'm Christina and I'm t and thisis the Pretty and Pink Again
podcast where motherhood meetsrediscovery.
Hey.
Hi.
How are you?
I am good.
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I'm good.
Good.
We're pivoting a little thisweek.
So Dr.
Lambert was called to the or.
Mm-hmm.
So she, we is gonna reschedulewith us for a few weeks from
now.
Yeah.
We were really excited to havethat hormone discussion.
And honestly, when I posted thaton my stories, I got, so did you
get a lot of questions manys?
Yes.
I got so many questions.
I do too.
We're gonna pocket those andkind of file them away.
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We're trying to reschedule that.
But we also got a lot of reallygreat feedback about last week's
episode.
I was really happy to hear that.
We're all in this together.
We're all exhausted and tired.
We're all tired, and there was alot of great conversations that
were stemming from that topiclast week.
So if you haven't listened tolast week's episode, go listen
to it.
It's Why are we all so tired?
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I know Every time we talk aboutanything like that, walks that
line of parenting.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I get a little nervous'cause I'mlike, oh, we have to stay in
Arlene.
I don't know.
It's, oh, it's always very wellreceived by our listeners.
I know.
I think everybody just feelslike a sigh of relief to be
like, I feel that too.
I feel like whenever I'mlistening to something and
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somebody's like deeply honestabout how they're feeling about
something, and it just comesacross like raw and organic and
real.
You feel like a weight liftedoff of you like that you're not
the only one feeling that way.
And so it seems likecollectively.
With the few episodes that wehave opened up on that, even
though we say we're not aparenting podcast, we are
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parents and that's a huge partof our identity.
Right.
And so we don't necessarily knowhow to fix all of those things
'cause we're not parent experts.
But I think just sometimestalking about those things is
important and it makes peoplefeel seen and heard, yes.
That is a place for that.
We're in our new little spacetoday.
Yes.
We have new chairs, newpodcasting chairs.
I know, I new look, this isreally nice.
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I know.
I feel really good.
I know.
I like this.
You can look on our Instagramclip, but.
This is perfect.
I love it.
And when I've been watching ourvideos through, all I do is
fidget in the big chair.
I fidget, I snack, I curl myhair.
I'm surprised, surprised I haveanything left on my head.
I like fidget.
I like couldn't get comfy.
Yeah, we were in like oversizedbig, were, it was sofa, sweeper
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sofa chairs and they were justtoo, almost like too comfy.
So now we're in like a littlebit more of a sleek.
Yes, but these are surprisinglycomfy.
I feel very at home.
They're great Costco.
Yeah.
Love'em.
They're perfect.
Love them.
Perfect.
I know.
And I have my hair slicked backin a body.
You do.
I'm loving this.
Look on you.
I'm obsessed.
My babysitter Sophia, who I loveso much did my hair this morning
'cause she's a gymnast.
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So she always did hair like thatwas like part of her thing.
She was a gymnast, she was adancer.
She always had to do her hair.
So when she comes over she doesmy daughter's hair.
That's like their thing.
She does their hair.
Yeah.
And today I said, Sophia, canyou do my hair too?
You look so, and she was like,oh my gosh, yes.
So she did my hair in like thebest slick back bun.
I never see you with like aslick back anything.
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So this is I'm loving the slickback now.
It's gonna be my new look.
I was inspired by you becauseyou were saying, oh, I'm doing
air dried hair, I'm doing KylieJenner curls.
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna try thattoo.
Just, I don't know, a littleless effort, a little less heat
and damage on my hair.
So she took, she actually usedmy husband's brush because I
don't have a.
Brush, I have a comb or you needlike a very specific bristle
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brush.
Bristle brush or something tokind of like slick it back.
Yes.
So that it really like staysagainst the head.
Yes.
So she did a little middle part.
Mm-hmm.
But only maybe it's only liketwo or three inches.
It's two inches.
Yep.
And then slicked it back.
And then she separated theponytail into two pieces.
Tie'em in a knot.
So the bun looks full and sleekand I love it.
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You need to do a tutorial.
You have a do a, I'm gonna to doa tutorial.
It looks so good.
It's so cute and very, I'mloving the vibe.
Effortless.
I love it.
A nice, cute, neat bun.
So what else, how else was, howwas your week?
How was the weekend?
Everything has been good.
It's, we're just still enjoyingsummer.
It's crazy.
It's like the end of Julyalready, I'm like, how did we
get here?
I feel like every summer I saythat, even though it's been
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really hot, there's this likeweird chill that's, there's
already a crisp in Yes.
Morning crisp.
It's like a crisp air.
And I'm like, no.
Like, how are we here already?
It's like you just know like,I'm like.
and we still have a good monthleft, but it's just it's
looming.
It's coming.
The crisp is gone today.
Did you go outside yet today?
Hot today.
It's hot in the middle of theday.
Hot today.
It's hot today.
It's hot in the middle of theday.
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But the first thing you weresaying was crisp.
Yeah, like there's just, I don'tknow, there's something that
just happens when you start tonear August where everything
just changes and it just, it'slike you can feel it in the air,
literally.
Yeah.
And it's feeling like it'sthere.
Summer's wrapping up.
It's gonna be over before weknow it.
It's there.
Mm-hmm.
It's been, It's been hard for useven here to get it.
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You just, everybody is just inthe thick of it in the middle of
the summer.
There's so much going on.
It's been hard for us to landour guests this summer.
So it's just been me and you alot this summer.
I know.
But it's been nice.
But for fall, we have a ton ofpeople lined up.
Chat.
Lots of people lined up startingback.
Yeah.
We're excited.
I know.
So we're pivoting a little bittoday.
Like we said, we're gonna tablethe perimenopause and hormone
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discussion, it'll be worth thewait and it'll be the wait.
And I also think we'll be ableto get a lot more out of her.
We won't be on such aconstricting timeline.
I know we're excited for thatone, but today we were a little
bit inspired by some of theconversations that we were
having based off of last week'sepisode.
Mm-hmm.
And I thought that this was likea really interesting topic
because I've been feeling thisand chatting about it with very
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close circle of mine, but.
It's this burnout.
And we can kind of look at thata bunch of different ways.
I feel like we could definitelytalk about mom burnout.
Mm-hmm.
And I feel like that's a lot ofwhere last week's episode, like
the conversations were stemmingfrom just mom burnout, how to
feel a little bit moreorganized, how to get out of
that rut if you are feeling veryburnt out.
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I feel like after.
A crazy summer and everybodybeing off of their routine.
It seems like a lot of peopleare feeling very burnt out.
It's just probably becauseyou're really like out of your
element, right?
You spend a lot of the time ofthe year.
In a much more structuredenvironment.
And then the summer, it's just afree for all.
And I think after a while peopleget a little tired of that, you
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know?
Right.
or you can look at it theopposite way.
In the way I've been looking atit in the summertime, I feel
like I have more time toreflect.
Yes.
I'm not so structured.
I'm not so in it where I don'thave the time to think.
In the summer, I have more ofthis time to think and reflect
am I enjoying this right.
Because sometimes.
I feel like I get burnt out whenI'm not fully enjoying
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something.
You're'cause you're goingthrough the motions because you
have to.
But when you are, you actuallytake a second to say.
Why am I doing this?
Why does this make me feelfulfilled?
Why does this not make me feelfulfilled?
What is something that is amust, a have to, mm-hmm.
a chore?
What is something that'ssupposed to bring me income?
What is something that'ssupposed to bring me happiness?
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What are all of these things?
Why sometimes do you feel stuckin this?
Burnout and lack of inspirationor all of those things that kind
of funnel into one, yeah.
When I heard you say the wordburnout, for me it felt a little
bit like the lack of routinejust because of the summer and
stuff.
But then for me, I also feltthis, wow, I am feeling very
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burnt out just in my kind ofcreative.
Space, like my entire job is tobe creative.
I have, right now my main sourceof income is being an influencer
and content creator.
And then I also have thispodcast.
So I feel like a lot of the timeI need to be on and creative and
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it's tiring to always have to belike that.
You know what I mean?
So I've definitely been feelingthis burnout in all sense of my
life because I feel a little bitof burnout with the kids and
then I feel burnout in mycareer.
And so I do feel just ingeneral.
And you're supposed to be doingyour career at home?
Yes.
In a place that you are feelingburnout.
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Yes.
That is a recipe for, it's for ahard time.
It is.
It's tough to be in that space,you know?
We'll talk through a little bitof that today.
So something that.
Inspired me recently was thatphrase, this too shall pass.
I liked that.
This too shall pass to me alwaysmeant if you're in a bad space,
if you're feeling sick, ifyou're feeling unwell, if
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something is hard, this willpass.
Mm-hmm.
But also the good things willpass too.
That's true.
And sometimes that means goodthings come to an end also.
Yep.
So whether that's like a careerthat you're in, a good career
that you're in, sometimes thathas to come to an end.
Whether that's like summer.
Mm-hmm.
Like The good, summer that needsto come to the good things.
Sometimes good things come to anend too.
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And then you're left with this,rediscovery phase.
You're left with a pivot.
You're left with maybe feelingunsettled.
You're left for what is the nextphase?
You're, you know, there's a lot.
There's a lot there forinterpretation of what comes
next.
This two shall pass reminds meof my mantra, which is this is
temporary.
Mm-hmm.
And I recite that to myself.
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I had a little bit of a longermantra, but I kind of shortened
it to, this is temporary whenI'm having a hard time or when I
know that I'm in a tough phase,whether it's one of the kids is
sick or I'm not getting a greatnight of sleep, or I'm stressed
about something with work.
I recite that to myself of thisis temporary, this will pass.
You know, like That's usuallylike the next line of my mantra.
And so that kind of reminds meof that mantra, but I like that
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you're also saying it that thegood times sometimes, and then
that doesn't mean like it in abad way.
It just means that sometimesthere's just seasons for things
and you move through, right?
I know.
So what do you think causes youthe biggest burnout right now?
Right now, if you had to pick Ithink it's a mix of obviously
being home with two little kidsthat I, like we talked about in
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last week's episode, thatburnout just causes that,
chronic fatigue.
But I also think, like I said,it's just in the line of work
that I do, it's, it's hard forme right now to.
Feel creatively inspired.
And sometimes what I end updoing is trying to rely on what
I'm seeing around.
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'cause if I'm not feelingcreatively inspired to start
something, to maybe createsomething from scratch, then You
look to Instagram, you look towhat's going on on the internet,
and you adapt these trends thatare going on.
And I'm not really feeling veryconnected to any of those
either.
And what happens is that thensometimes I just pull back, like
if I'm not feeling good aboutsomething, I don't push, I pull
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back.
So if I don't feel like it'sorganic, if I don't feel like
it's the right fit, I pull backand end up doing nothing.
Which doesn't help, or I kind ofdo the same thing over and over
again, which also is not thebest.
You need to adapt in this worldand move forward and always be
doing new things and trying newthings and so I feel a little
bit stuck right now.
Okay.
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So your lack of inspirationright now as actually maybe
career-based it is because whenyou think of like things that.
Help when you lack inspiration.
That could be in many differentlike facets.
Think of like a workout, ifyou're not feeling inspired to
work out, and maybe you've triedit, but you're not seeing
results or you're not losingweight.
Right.
Or you don't like the workout,or you don't like the routine,
or you don't like going to theclass or whatever.
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Then you'll just stop.
Yep.
If you're not loving theclothing trends that are out
there right now and how thingsare fitting on your body.
These are all places that I'vemaybe have feel less inspired.
Yes.
I've, I agree with all lessinspired about clothing trends
right now.
I think, professionally whenyou're feeling not inspired,
that kind of.
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It is like a punch in the gut.
It's hard.
Hard because it also is yourincome.
Yes.
It's hard and it's what fundsyour life.
Yep, it is.
And so I've definitely beenfeeling, I think the last year,
so we talk about last summer allthe time.
It's like last summer.
I know what you did last summer.
Summer.
Summer.
Last summer.
I know what you thought lastsummer.
That's.
Our little phrase to each other,because I know what you were
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feeling last summer.
I know.
You know what I was feeling lastsummer we talked about this,
that we both just kind of camehead, right?
Like we were both having a verytough time in each of our lives
for very different reasons.
And we talked about both of us.
Getting it off of our chest.
But then we were like, we'regonna do something about this.
Yes, we're gonna, what's next?
Right?
And we both had this fuel toprogress past the woe is me, I'm
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not feeling great.
It's like, what's the nextchapter?
And I think that this year hasreally been.
A lot of reflection, which we'vealso talked about and
rediscovery, right?
And I think that sometimes whenyou're in that phase, it's hard
because you feel like not a lotis happening, but really there
is a lot happening.
And for me, I took this year toget myself healthy again.
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I needed to focus on myself.
I needed to focus on sleeping.
I needed to focus on eating wellbecause I was just in a really
bad place.
I wasn't sleeping, I wasn'ttaking care of my body in any
way, shape or form.
I wasn't taking care of my mind.
I was really on autopilot in alot of parts of my life.
And so I feel like this lastyear, that was my goal was
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number one, get myself healthy.
Mentally, physically, andemotionally, and I think that I
could say check, check, check toall of those things, but at the
same time, I also was like,where does that leave me?
Then?
Like creatively, career wise, Iloved starting this podcast.
I feel like it brought me backto the like OG blogger days of
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starting something from scratchand like learning something new
and the collaborative aspect ofit.
And I just have loved it.
It's filled my cup.
So like I think beyond what Ieven thought it could, but.
My other business, I feel alittle bit stuck and I have no
shame in admitting that I'vebeen doing it for 15 years.
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Mm-hmm.
And I think that if you doanything for a long period of
time, you could get stuck from.
The repetitiveness of things.
In my case, I think it's becauseit's constant reinvention.
It's like once you get goingwith something, everything
changes so then you have tostart again.
And I think the people that havedone it really well.
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There's many people that havedone it really well, many
influencers that have done itreally well.
But it's hard and I'm sure thatthere's a lot of hardships on
the other side that maybe peopledon't show you, you know?
Right.
but you're saying what you'vebeen enjoying consuming lately.
And not even as a contentcreator, but as a consumer are
people that are experts.
Yes.
Like doctors.
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Yes.
Like actually one of the doctorsin Nick's group is doing this.
Mm-hmm.
And he.
Like people that are experts infields that are like stylists,
like maybe that are, maybe theyare not even doing the content
creation themselves.
Maybe they're hiring somebody todo the content creation.
Yes.
But they're the main character.
They're the product.
Yes.
And that is seems to be doingvery well right now.
I like that because I likeconsuming content.
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That's a great point, and I'mglad that you brought that up
because I have, I've sent youthings and I've said that out
loud before that I.
Always enjoy people who arequote unquote experts.
And I know sometimes we shadethat, where we're like, what?
Are you even an expert?
Or is this just content?
But I think there are a lot ofpeople on social media that are
indeed experts at things,whether they're a stylist I'm
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trying to think in terms of likethings that would relate to me.
Whether you're a stylist ormaybe you're a makeup artist or
something, but like you havesomething else, you have a
trade, you have a trade.
Besides, you have a licensebeing an influencer, right?
Because for some reason I takethat just a little bit more
seriously.
And so I You have a trade inmarketing and media?
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I do.
And digital media?
I do.
You had a profession doing this.
I did.
I worked.
You, You might be one of thecontent creators that really
does take that as a badge ofhonor in a career.
Because you did do this I did itfor my job before job for
myself, right?
Correct.
So I feel very like.
Okay.
Invested in this space and butChristina, you are so good at
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that space.
Like sometimes I like to justthrow things up because I'm
like, you do, but it needs tojust be done.
Yeah, it needs to just be done.
It needs to be done today.
And you're like, no, it's offcenter.
It needs to have this marking onit.
It needs to have these words, ifyou throw it up.
People are gonna scroll right byit.
I love, it's gonna look liketrash.
I do, I love branding.
'cause you know how to brand.
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Even with this podcast, like youknew we needed to have a
concept, a visual, like amission statement.
A mission statement.
I'm saying like the, those areall skills that not everybody
has.
Thank you for saying that.
You know, And I think your skillis that sometimes I have to
remove some of that because Ican get too hung up on the
everything being perfect.
And you always said to me that,and we've said this on the
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podcast before, done this.
Yes.
You've said that things need aheartbeat, right?
Yeah.
So I think the combination of uslike together it works and like
it works in this business aswell and I'm so grateful for it.
I think that this has justreally allowed me to open my
eyes a little bit to be like a.
Maybe like what else is outthere?
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Like, I love this so much.
Yeah.
The heartbeat for your otherprofession, you're just
reevaluating it.
Yeah.
Like I you're doing a pulsecheck right now is that pulse
still there?
Does it need to be revived?
It's right now.
Does it need to be revived?
It's feeling faint right now.
Do you need to pivot?
Yes.
And try something new with it.
I know, I've been telling youforever that I think you should
do content creation for otherpeople.
So many people that have tradesthat have a talent mm-hmm.
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but they don't know how to like,use it, put it together and use
it and share it.
Yes.
I think that, I've justrealized, I think that podcast
has helped me realize thatthere's so much more.
To me than just me.
I feel like my business has beenall about me.
Like my Christina Reishi, whichused to be Oso Glam blog, you
know, which was a blog at onepoint that I don't upkeep
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anymore.
But all of that was about me.
It was my narrative, it was mystory, it was my things that I
wanted to share.
And with this podcast, it was.
Obviously us and ourexperiences, but it's allowing
other people to come in andshare their experiences.
It's connecting with ouraudience.
Yeah.
Less in a deeper way than it'sabout, than ever about.
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It's less about us.
There's a lot of question askingwhen you ask a question to
somebody else.
Yes.
Usually have to ask the questionyourself.
Yeah.
You sometimes you don't know theanswer.
Yeah.
Then you have to find out whatthe answer is.
It's a lot of growth.
Yeah.
It's a lot of learning.
And it's very inspiring work.
It is.
So when you are doing somethingthat's inspiring, sometimes it
points out other things in yourlife, right?
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It does.
That are not inspiring.
I think that's actually probablywhat this did.
And I think I'm using that as agood thing.
Like I think that this ispushing me.
For more.
And it's maybe not more me, it'smaybe more something else.
And so that's just where I'vebeen.
And I feel comfortable sayingthat because I don't know what
that looks like, but I know thatit's what I want.
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And I know I'm not sure whatthat, what that even means.
But I think that this podcast isall about being honest and
lifting the veil and not lyingto myself.
Mm-hmm.
And not trying to put up afacade for any reason.
And so that's just where I'vebeen feeling.
So stay tuned.
I don't know what that evenmeans yet.
I have things that I've beenthinking of and, but you put it
out there.
Yeah.
And.
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It's funny, I think I recognizedit first.
First.
It's funny how the world workssometimes when you put something
out there big or small.
You don't know what that'sgonna, you know it.
I think sometimes just admittingthat to yourself.
So if you're stuck at a job, ifyou feel, you're stuck in
something.
Sometimes it's just number one,saying it out loud, saying it to
a friend, saying it to a familymember I'm not happy at this.
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Or, I don't feel fulfilled anylonger.
What does that mean?
For moving forward.
So I'm just like playing aroundwith that.
I don't think that I'll evergive up anything.
I think that there's like roomin my life for a lot of things,
but I think that there's justlike next steps of okay, what
else?
Then what else can we bring intothe mix?
Like.
Let's bring something else thatfulfills me a little bit more.
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Mm-hmm.
I also think sometimes when youget out of your routine, that
sort of creatively inspires you,right?
So sometimes when you travel,like you just said this mm-hmm.
last week, with your beating,you say when I'm not feeling
creative, I can't create.
So sometimes when it.
It takes you a second to joltand be like, oh, if I travel
somewhere, if I do something andit sparks some creative energy,
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sometimes you just need to getoutta your right or you have to
be out of the house.
Yes.
Like Igniting your senses?
Yes.
In the bead store, like you feelthe weight of the beads.
You smell things you talk tosomebody, somebody tells you how
to do it.
Actually, like the owner of thestore when I was there showed me
this like new technique that shedid this like not technique like
I could and then wanna try it.
I could technically do all ofthat behind my computer.
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I could order beads online.
I could watch a YouTube videoand see how to do it.
None of that is as inspiring orinvigorating as when you're out
there in the open.
So it's so true.
And I do, I think when you putthings out there, things come
back.
I actually have a whole bunch oforders I have to fulfill today.
Good for you.
But just it's all good thingsand sometimes lack of
inspiration.
Will, you know, recognizing thatwill help lead to more To new
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things.
To new things, yeah.
To more.
I wanted to tell you, soyesterday I went to that career
fair at Westminster.
I know.
And so my friend Katie.
Works at Westminster.
And how I met her was again,like things just work out in
weird ways.
So I had met her a few years agoat the polo grounds when I was
actually there for an event forthe Phillies Night out selling
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jewelry, and she bought jewelryfrom me.
And then last summer I met herat Fox 61 News because OAH
Strides was nominated for theConnecticut Impact Awards for a
business category.
There were six categories andKatie was working at Covenant
Prep.
And their school was nominatedfor a Connecticut Impact Award.
So both of us ended up beingfinalists, so we re-met there.
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So anyways, we've become friendsand a lot of stuff that Strides
does, there's like a lot ofoverlap with her job, it's been
great.
We've been able to collaborate,et cetera.
So she was running a careerfair.
Now she works at Westminster andasked me to come and I laughed
at first.
I'm like, Nick, what am I gonnabe presenting?
I'm in a room with a vascularsurgeon.
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Mm-hmm.
And I'm in the room with a guyfrom Fox 61 News, i'm an
imposter.
I'm gonna be talking aboutpodcasting and that's like a
little bit of that likeself-doubt and imposter syndrome
that I have.
What am I even good at?
What am I even like important,I'm sure everyone feels that
sense shouldn't bullshit that Ifeed myself I went to the event
yesterday and my table was fullall morning because this is
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actually a job and somethingthat kids are interested in.
Yes, of course.
And I was so excited to share myexpertise and our knowledge and
how we do it and how anybody cando this.
Mm-hmm.
And how, if you have an idea.
Yep.
And you had said this too, ifyou can be an expert in
something, then you can shareit.
It's so true.
But it was just, it was verycool to talk to the youth to be
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able to inspire them.
But what then ended up happeningwas is I was inspired by them.
And their eagerness to learn,and then they were asking me
like, what did you go to schoolfor?
I'm like, I went to Quinnipiac.
My bachelor's is in biology.
Like you can pivot, you canchange, you can grow, you can
learn, you can try new things.
It goes back to that messagethat we always say sometimes
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it's just like recognizing andlike it's okay to pivot.
It's okay to want somethingdifferent.
It's okay to want.
Maybe more of something or lessof something, right?
And it's all about thatrediscovery.
But if you don't have the spaceto give yourself permission to
even let those thoughts in yourhead, then you won't get
anywhere.
(23:32):
And sometimes it's just likethat breakthrough moment.
I think for us, it was both ofus last summer of like, we're
not gonna live like thisanymore.
What else do we need?
What else do we want?
What could we do?
And this helped so much of that.
So I want.
The message, like if you arefeeling burnt out in any way, I
think that sometimes like justtrying to really like look
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within and be like, what lightsyou up and how can I do more of
that, and start there.
But then if there is, I hearfrom people all the time, like
I've been, a content creator for15 years.
The amount of girls, women whoreach out to me and ask me,
like, how do I start?
It's like you just start.
You just, there is no.
(24:15):
How to you just start sharing.
Everyone has a phone, everyonehas, we're using our phone to
record this.
We grabbed some a quick Mydaughters have been doing Get
Readys with me.
Yes.
Because they, have you beenseeing Mila's?
Yes, of course I get Readys withme.
Yes.
This is from Target.
This is from where like you caneverywhere.
You funny it and even for us, Ihave also gotten the question
about how do you start a podcastand you just do, like you have
(24:39):
to just start it.
We can obviously walk anybodythrough the steps of starting a
podcast, but like you have tojust want it and do it, and I
think that's.
I guess I'll like to reflect alittle bit, I guess I've done
that a couple of points in mylife and I have step back and
really be proud of that, ofputting myself out there, not
once, but twice, you know, intwo different kind of avenues.
(25:01):
And you've done it now too, andit's amazing.
It really is.
It's fulfilling in a certainway, but.
It's just an interesting kind ofthought.
So with your burnout, you thinkthat the first step for you
though was the wellness.
The wellness.
I think it depe.
I think that will depend onwhere anybody is at in their
life.
(25:21):
But for me, I was feeling a tonof burnout for very different
reasons last year.
And yes, for me it was gettingmyself healthy.
So sometimes it's not always afix or what's next.
Sometimes you have to sit in it.
You have to stop and stop.
Maybe you have to stop, putsomething back into yourself
first.
Yes.
Before you maybe see like adifferent outcome or have
(25:42):
another output or somethinglike.
Like that for sure.
I think it's putting one foot infront of the other.
I remember last year, we'vetalked about this in bits and
pieces, but I remember last yearI knew that I was not in a great
place.
I feel like if you saw me, youknew I was not in a great place,
but I needed therapy.
I needed somebody to talk to,like a professional.
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And I remember feeling how.
Daunting that felt of a task Ihad to go get a therapist and
sometimes.
Things seem so simple andthey're just not, you know, it's
like when you're just in a lowplace, anything feels like
simple things are hard andyou're not feeling great.
Yes.
Simple things are so hard.
Yeah.
But you just have to take onebit at a time.
And I've talked to some of mygirlfriends about this and you
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need to open up to people, Ithink, and you need to get a
little circle around you thatcan kind of like cheer you on,
open up to your friends, to yourfamily, have people.
Feel that can kind of be alittle bit accountable for you,
to cheer you on or maybe helpyou out a little bit.
And then I think it's just onefoot in front of the other.
And I think that when you get toa place of clearing and you feel
(26:49):
at peace, right?
Like with whatever is going on,then I think is the time to like
look for more if more is whatyou're kind of desiring, right?
Yeah.
But I think you need to getyourself to a good baseline and
be in a very clear head.
Wow.
And I think that's what the lastyear for me has been.
That's amazing.
That's amazing that you wereable to do that.
How you feel.
(27:09):
How do you feel like about howdo you feel about thanks for
asking.
I don't always get asked that.
Like I know.
Always feel I know.
How are you doing?
Actually?
Thanks for asking.
Yeah, no, so I feel better.
I feel better mentally.
I was feeling very like sick andunwell, and I feel better in
that sense.
I feel more fulfilled.
I feel like.
(27:30):
I was adding a lot before, but Iwasn't adding things like maybe
in the right order or maybe allthat I liked, or I just feel
like I was so scattered and soeverywhere, so I like you or
maybe not like you.
I cleared the plate and I becamea little reclusive last summer,
but I think I needed that inorder to, before I could add
things back in.
(27:50):
Yeah, so it's similar.
Yeah, similar.
And then.
I started this podcast with youin January and I think it's
changed my life because itbrought back that like work
flame and fire, like thisorganization, the deadlines, the
things like that.
Like I didn't realize that I wascraving and that I need it.
Yeah, and I love it and I don'tnecessarily.
(28:13):
I didn't think I needed to saylike I had a job, but I guess
something, I guess I did need totell myself like, you do have
some other purpose.
You do have some knowledge, likeyou are good at certain things.
You, I guess I did need that youdid for, you probably didn't
even realize it and I didn'trealize I, I'm probably so busy.
With the kids and with like lifeoutside yourself that you didn't
(28:35):
even realize what you needed.
Yeah.
But again, I often, I minimizemy, like my background, but I do
have expertise in some thingsyou do.
I don't have expertise in a lot,but one thing that I do excel in
is asking questions andconnecting with people.
You are such a natural host, soI feel like this has just been,
but even just finding people.
(28:57):
In the universe that wanna alsocome in and talk and share.
I know he does a ton of the prepwork behind the scenes where
you're like finding the guestsand finding the topics and we
have really good guests comingup.
Yeah.
We're so excited about that.
The a h ADHD specialists.
I know.
I'm just saying we have thesenatural conversations and anyway
I'm feeling much better.
Okay.
And I know a lot of this.
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I know a lot of that is fromthis.
Some of it was the wellnessjourney, some of it was from
therapy and medication.
Some of it was just me having toaccept that this is a time in my
life, right?
Like some of a lot of it is alsoaccepting, lowering your
standards and accepting that youdon't like something.
I totally agree with that, yeah.
Like yesterday I was driving inthe car with the kid just from
(29:41):
here to Farmington, to the kid'sbaseball game, and I was sitting
in the backseat.
My one son was playing in a gameand he gets car sick.
So I was like, fine, you canhave my seat so you're not sick
for the game.
And I got there the last 15minutes were miserable.
It was absolutely freakingmiserable.
How do you kids sit in thebackseat of that car?
No wonder you scream every timewe're in the car together.
(30:03):
A little taste of it.
I'm just saying not every momentis gonna be, of course not so
grand.
But I think I'm feeling betterbecause I've accepted the
environment that I'm in.
I wanted to tell you last weekwhen you came over with the
kids.
Mm-hmm.
It is so fun to have little kidshere.
Oh, it is so fun.
And I know it's hard for you,obviously, because they're your
(30:23):
little children.
I know.
And I was there and I likeforgot.
Yeah.
Like that.
I have a, I have a pool and youhave two non-swimmers, but they
are so fun.
I know.
And so freaking cute.
Well, You are just so good.
You could, I just love that.
Could just tell, you could justtell with t that she's just like
such a mom at her core becauseit just comes like you.
You don't even have to like.
(30:44):
Flip a switch, like you justlike instantly become anybody's
mom.
They're just so cute.
I just love them all so much.
We have to tell the storybecause I shared it, my girl.
I shared it on my, I shared iton my I'm up laughing because it
was so funny.
I shared it on my Instagram andI was like, I hate to throw you
under the bus, but.
I forget if it was last week orthe week before, but one of her,
(31:05):
no, it was our summer our summerseries where we shared like a
bunch of hacks that are workingfor us and tease claim to fame,
which honestly was such a goodtip and I did get a lot of great
feedback about that.
Yeah.
Is that work a grill?
Learn how to work a grill Momslike, so that you get to go
outside and get the moment ofpeace.
That, the guys usually do'causethey're sit sitting out there,
(31:28):
you know, watching steak cookand you're inside with the kids
screaming and so it's do alittle switcheroo there.
And people loved that hack.
I think that's great, exceptwhen we came over, we invaded
tea's house, my whole family,and there's so much going on
because.
Six kids between us all.
Yeah.
And there's, like you said,there's a pool and Gino was
here, your sister-in-law, andwe're all trying to eat and feed
(31:51):
everybody.
And there was a lot going on, soI was distracted.
Exactly.
Couple of glasses of rose and,and Tea Man's the grill, right?
She, I'm like, oh, here she is.
Here she, she's gonna, she'sgonna show us all.
I'm like, ready?
I got my phone, I'm like, readyto go.
I'm like, here she is.
Live, right?
Like live action.
Oh yeah, live fire.
Live action.
The grill proceeds to light onfire.
(32:13):
I think it may have been.
It was the corn.
It was the corn that, because Ithrew the corn in the hust.
In the hus on the grill.
I know.
But like I've done that beforetoo.
And I don't know, it was just,it was And your didn't light on
fire?
I don't think it did, but Imaybe, I don't know.
But you, I don't know.
Am I supposed to put the corn onthe top?
'cause I put it right on theflame.
I didn't think it was gonnacatch on fire.
I don't know.
We need to Google that.
I don't, I have no idea whatyou're supposed to do, but I.
(32:36):
As this is happening, tee's likemanning the grill.
My daughter Layla's coming overwith a pretend vacuum.
Oh.
She's like vacuuming the areathat tees like under her feet.
I'm like, Layla, get out of theway.
There's a grill.
Like all of a sudden the grilllights, fire lights on fire.
Literally like a movie, likegoes, what do I do in flames?
Nick, switch with me.
(32:57):
You were like, go was in thepool with my kids who were
fighting and screaming andyelling.
Yeah.
And I was like, I'd rather putup this fire than that fire.
Say that.
Famous last words.
Animals loved it.
I was like, that is the bestthing I ever heard.
Say, Nick, come and put out thefire you.
The food was okay.
It was still fine.
The burgers were the bestburgers I've ever had.
I know we had delicious burgers.
We had just a really nice summernight.
(33:19):
I like that.
We get a couple of those everysummer where we just have like
our families together.
We had, it's very sweet.
Yep.
I, the kids are, the kids alwaysleave so happy when they leave
from here and they always havesuch a good time, but it was.
So funny.
Yeah.
I was like, this could not havebeen more perfect.
And I happened.
I got it.
You documented it?
Yeah, I documented it.
I was like, yep.
And the grill is on fire andhere we are.
(33:41):
And listen, I didn't claim to bean expert.
You did it.
You just said learn how to doit.
You didn't how to do an expert.
I need to learn how to do ittoo.
Or maybe I need to learn how toclean my grill.
Yeah.
But I was over at Jessica's, ourneighbors, the other.
Just the other day, just likechatting with her and she was
like, Ooh, I have the grill on.
I'm gonna grill.
I'm like, good for you.
But I didn't realize she wasreferencing because she listened
(34:05):
to the podcast.
Yeah.
So she was basically trying totell me like, oh, I'm taking
your advice.
I didn't, it like went over myhead.
I know, but I said it.
Are like women gonna be like,like everybody's gonna be
manning the grill and likelighting their girls on fire.
Okay.
If you have corn ladies, ladies,like start easy if you're not a
pro at the grill like I am, notlike I've grilled very few
(34:27):
things, but, oh my gosh.
Actually I think it might be mygirl because my girlfriend's
husband was here one day and helit it on fire once too.
So maybe it needs to be cleaned.
Oh, so okay, guys closing outalready.
I know already.
All right.
Do you have a pink spotlight ordo you need a minute?
No, I need a minute.
(34:47):
Alright, I'll give you mine.
Okay.
So I've been playing tennis withmy son, Joseph every night.
It's so fun.
We've been going over andplaying singles.
The other night.
We played doubles and we've beenplaying every night.
I love that.
Like every single night.
It's so much fun.
Oh, I love that.
He loves that with you.
It, like represents a lot ofdifferent things.
Your kids eventually become likeyou actually end up doing stuff
(35:09):
with them.
Oh, like this is something thatI'm not just like teaching him
to do and move over, stand here.
I had to do a lot of that to getto play with him and it's so
much fun.
Now you guys are like doing likea hobby together that you both
like a hobby.
It's not like.
Thing.
So today he, that's so niceToday he had tennis lessons and
he ended up canceling,'cause hehas tennis elbow and he wanted
(35:30):
to rest it.
So I was like let's go.
Come for a walk with me.
Come for a walk with me.
And so I made him put in Airbusand listen to music.
I love it.
And we like went for a walk.
You guys are just like spendinga lot of quality time together,
which is just nice.
It's not a lot of time if youthink about it.
It's good quality time.
It's a good quality thing.
Like it's fun to do somethingwith your kid when you like
connect with them on it.
Yeah.
It doesn't need to be.
(35:51):
Hours of shared space.
It's an hour of tennis or like awalk.
I love that.
That's so nice.
That is my pink spotlightplaying.
I know.
Doubles with my little buddy.
I love that.
That's your oldest?
Yeah, that's my oldest.
It's so much fun and he'sgetting to be such a terrific, I
know tennis player's so cute.
I know he's teaching kids too.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, he has his last daytomorrow.
So anyways, love that.
(36:11):
That's my spotlight for theweek.
Oh my God, he got so big.
It just, he's like a reminder oflike how time really goes by
very fast.
And that's like why they saytime is very fleeting and
sometimes that comes across veryannoying, especially when you're
in like a tough phase ofmotherhood or just in general,
you know, you're like, wow, itdoes go by really fast.
But even since when I've knownhim, it's like he was a baby.
(36:35):
He was a baby.
And so it's, it is just.
Crazy.
Like when you start to see themlike literally growing up, like
literally growing up.
Yeah.
It's just a really.
Weird but amazing feeling.
Yeah.
But this is fun.
Yeah.
I'm not wishing, I'm not wishingthe time away.
I am not like hoping to rewindback like I'm just, for him in
(36:56):
particular, I like this.
Oh, this side.
'cause he's still, I love thatlike a baby.
But he can, he's like almost astall as I am.
I know he is wear the same shoesize and I know he can play
tennis, which is oh, I love it.
Which is so cute.
That's a really nice thing.
So we had a lot of quality timetogether this week.
Love.
They were all home.
I went in the pool, I got myhair wet.
Good for you.
I saw that.
I've been seeing this reel andI'm like, I need to get on this,
(37:19):
but it's be the mom that getsyour hair wet.
Have you seen this one?
No, I haven't.
I like that statement becausefirst of all, I'm a girl that
never gets my hair wet, and it'sbecause I, it's usually
absolutely loath drying my hair.
So if I have dried hair.
I hate getting it wet.
Right.
I'll do it.
If you've done it, you don'twanna ruin it.
Yes, exactly.
And I will be like strategicabout getting my hair wet.
Like I'll do it on a day that Ineed to wash my hair.
(37:42):
And I'm like, okay.
Like great, this is a great dayto get my hair wet, but like you
will not find me with a freshblowout or like freshly washed
hair, even close to getting myhair wet because I'm not doing
it again.
But I guess for the sake of thekids, I have to.
Learn to be a little bit morefun.
It lit them up.
My sister and I both did it'cause my sister's kids were
(38:02):
over here on Monday and then mybrother-in-law was here'cause
he's off on Monday.
It was like a Saturday, but itwas a Monday.
And the kids were having acannonball contest and my niece
was like, auntie, you do one.
That was all I needed to tohear.
And you did.
And I was like, how can I say noto her?
I know, oh, that's really fun.
I'm just gonna do it.
So then I did it that my sisterdid it.
I love that.
And we had a wet hair day.
Okay, you know what?
Mine, actually, I'll justpiggyback off that statement
(38:25):
that I'm gonna try to be the momthat gets my hair wet because
I'm usually not, but I feel likeit is fun.
Okay.
So mine, I, I teased a littlebit of this a few weeks ago, but
just my obsession with Quincemm-hmm.
right now.
So I feel like since becoming amom too, I have like extremes
(38:45):
with things.
Like I'll either be like anAmazon girly or like a target
girly, where I'll get something,fairly inexpensive, if I don't
wanna like spend a lot of moneyon it.
Or I go the other extreme whereI'm buying something for
thousands of dollars and babyingit, right?
And I feel like since becoming amom, I've really invested in
more totes like, so, like biggerbags that I can fit a lot of
(39:09):
things in and like use as adiaper bag or like use as just
like the catchall for the kidsstuff and like to make sure I
have all that stuff.
So I feel like my totes havegotten like a ton of use, like
my expensive totes.
Mm-hmm.
But I don't really have likeanything in between and I, you
guys know I've been on thequince ba bandwagon.
Mm-hmm.
I've talked about how I did mycapsule wardrobe for both spring
and summer.
(39:29):
Mm-hmm.
Through them.
I'm gonna do another one forfall'cause I just love their
pieces, but do not sleep ontheir bags.
They are a a hundred percentItalian leather.
Most of them.
And I found two this summer thatI am obsessed with and like they
have become my everyday bag and.
One of them has become myeveryday bag and one of them has
been like my going out if we'regoing to dinner.
(39:50):
Mm-hmm.
Or if we have an event orsomething like, is that the
ivory woven one?
Yes, I want that one.
I have an, I get it Ivy.
It looks like the Bottegaclutch, but it's woven and it's
beautiful.
It's like an ivory.
It's so soft.
But it's also not a knockoff.
It's not, no, it's not a knock.
It's inspired by, but I lovethat it's.
Woven and like it, when youtouch it, it it's mushy.
It's mushy.
(40:11):
Like it doesn't, it's notplasticy.
You're not gonna hear it likecrinkle.
You're not gonna hear it likeplasticy it won't scratch like
it won't do.
I feel like the cheapy stuffsometimes it works, but even the
expensive stuff, scratches likelamb skin, Chanel.
Yeah, like shit, scratch it.
It does.
Who wants to take that out?
Know it.
So this is, so then you end up,like to your point before you
end up babying it, you baby it,I don it away.
(40:32):
And especially when I'm doingstuff like.
With the kids.
Like I have a few like nicebags, but I save those more for
like special occasions.
If we're going to an event or ifRaja and I are on vacation, I
tend to take that stuff.
But when I'm doing stuff likewith the kids, I just don't have
that stuff around you.
Or you like go to a cute dinnerwith your kids.
Do you wanna wanna with yourkids if you want, if you're
(40:52):
going somewhere nice.
With your kids and you wannathrow that bag in the big bag.
Yes.
It's nice to have an in-between.
So Quince has just absolutelybeautiful pieces.
The other one that I got wasthis like tote sling bag.
And it's like a perfect, it hastwo handles on it, so one of
them is short, so you can likeliterally throw it over your
arm, like over your shoulder.
And then one of them is long, soyou could wear it as a cross
(41:14):
body.
And the size that I got is.
Small, but it's not, it fitslike everything that you need,
like all the essentials.
That sounds good for travelbecause when you travel you need
like passport wallet, like thiswould fit all of it, all the
essentials.
And if you only have one bag on,you can quickly put it in The
big bag to go through that is,it's a perfect travel bag.
It's like just, and it's just aperfect, it like hugs to your
(41:35):
body when you're have it crossbody, it fits right under your
arm, so it's not bulky.
Obsessed with it, and I love it.
It's a beautiful like toy color,so I feel like it works all year
round.
All seasons.
And then the hardware is gold.
It's like chunky gold.
It's not chinsy, it's not gonnascratch.
The quality's just amazing.
And the price point, both ofthose bags were like under one
(41:55):
50, so they're like not.
Extremely expensive, but they'renot super cheap.
So I feel like it's just like anice midpoint.
Yeah, and I have been askedabout both of those bags.
People have stopped and asked melike out and about, so I'm like,
and I'm like, oh, they're fromQuince.
You know, Like I feel like, I'mlike, do you have it?
I don't have it with me.
'cause I have my tote.
Of course, when I'm bringing alot of stuff, I don't have it,
(42:17):
but I will share.
It on the Pippa page, but I'veposted a few reels about it.
But I just feel like, again, itgoes back to that like quality
over quantity, and I'm justfeeling like that in every
aspect of my life.
Like it's, I love the, find allabout quality friendships.
Quality foods.
Yep.
Exactly.
Quality time.
Quality time quality,everything.
Exactly.
Like I just think that's, it'sjust so nice and I just, I love
(42:40):
that price point.
I know people were going likebananas over it when I was
posting it.
And because it's just, I, theit, the quality is just great
and it just makes me feel goodto have something like nice, but
that's not crazy expensive.
It's just like nice.
It doesn't have a label, nothinglike that.
It's just.
It's just a good find.
I know this is like off topic,but I have lots of bags
obviously that have labels.
(43:01):
I've been less and less inclinedto buy them lately.
Yeah.
I feel like it's just that likeless is more like, and it's
funny'cause in the summer I feelvery, very, less is more I don't
know why, it's just, I feel likebecause you're just like,
whatever.
Like it just feels good.
Just be, it's the vibe.
It's the vibe.
Vibe.
In the winter though, like whenit's the holiday season, I'm
like.
More is more.
(43:21):
Right?
Give me the sparkles.
Give me like all the layers.
The fur Leo, the fur, Leo the,yep.
Gimme all of that.
Give me the labels.
Then I just feel like whenyou're just in the winter and
you just like need, you're likegrasping for like anything to
make you feel good and likeglam.
But I know, but sometimes in thesun simmer, I feel like it's
just feels good to just be like,Ugh.
Like less is more.
Okay.
But yeah, I love it becausewe're in that season, we're
(43:44):
still in that season.
We're gonna embrace the season.
And that's how we'll wrap upthis episode.
Yes.
I love it that we're trying toembrace the season.
Mm-hmm.
We know that mom burnout is athing.
Mm-hmm.
But also on this episode, wekind of talked about a little
bit of what career?
Career burnout too.
Career burnout too.
And just like life burnout.
And it's like life burnout.
Know, I think that's just, I'msure it's something that a lot
of people can relate to.
One aspect of their life.
(44:04):
Maybe it's not career, maybeit's not with the kids, but
Yeah, I think burnout's justsomething that is just a human
thing that everybody goesthrough.
Right.
And it seems like both of us gothrough that when we're not
feeling inspired.
Mm-hmm.
And looks, and we're both alwayslooking for new ways to inspire
ourselves.
For sure.
So that's for.
That's healthy, that I'm proudof us for doing that.
Yeah, me too.
(44:25):
Yeah.
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Which is important.
We're building our Pippacommunity and we're so grateful
for anybody who's already leftus a review.
(45:09):
If you already have left us areview before we announce.
This still send us an a DM withyour address and we're just
sending them to anybody who doesit just as a thank you for being
a Pippa.
Yes.
All right.
So we'll see you all next week.
See you next week.
Bye bye.