Episode 41: Healing Humanity with Kerry Mann

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Kerry Mann, acclaimed podcaster and filmmaker of Healing Humanity, shares his inspiring health transformation story. Discover how the carnivore diet helped Kerry reclaim his vitality, tackling long-standing health challenges along the way.

Tune in to hear about Kerry’s mission to empower others through his documentary project, capturing the profound impact of dietary change. This episode invites you to rethink nutrition and explore the possibilities of a holistic path to wellness.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Primal Foundations podcast.
I'm your host, tony Pascola.
We will dive into what Ibelieve are the four central
foundations you need for ahealthy lifestyle Strength,
nutrition, movement and recovery.
Get ready to unlock your pathto optimal health and enjoy the
episode and enjoy the episode.

(00:29):
Today's guest on the show isCary Mann, a podcaster,
filmmaker and the creator behindthe documentary Healing
Humanity.
Cary's film takes a deep diveinto the powerful connection of
health, healing and holisticliving.
Cary Mann, welcome to thePrimal Foundations podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you so much for having me, Tony.
I really appreciate it podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Thank you so much for having me, tony.
I really appreciate it.
I caught you for the first timeat a hacker health.
I was in the room um standingroom only, by the way, full,
full house uh and got to see youshowcase, uh, some of the clips
from healing humanity.
You know, the room was packed.
You had incredible guests inthe audience, like Dr Kiltz, dr.
You had incredible guests inthe audience like Dr Kiltz, dr

(01:07):
Chafee.
What was it like for you to seea full house and, you know,
present in front of likeinfluential, like figures like
that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
It was completely surreal and unbelievable.
Honestly, I I still kind ofpitch myself sometimes like is
this real?
Did I really just go on thisproper human carnivore diet, eat
a bunch of meat, and now I'mdoing this kind of thing?
I've been doing YouTube forquite a while, but public
speaking is something that Iwould have rather died than even

(01:34):
thought about doing prior tocarnivore.
I'm a lot better on carnivore,but that whole thing was surreal
.
Looking out there and seeing DrChafee standing there and Dr
Kiltz thing was surreal.
Looking out there and seeing DrChafee standing there and Dr
Kiltz.
It was pretty meaningful for meas well, because those guys I
feel like I owe so much to.
I found carnivore through otherindividuals, but I was never

(01:56):
going to attempt to do somethinglike that without sort of the
reassurance of some of thesegood doctors, and so I just
started doing a ton of researchwhen I heard about carnivore and
Dr Chafee popped up Dr Kiltz,dr Berry, dr Baker and it's
interesting like, besides theinformation they were giving me,
it just made me pause for amoment because I was like man,

(02:16):
this Dr Chafee guy, he's aneurosurgeon that's literally
performed brain surgery onpeople.
Maybe I should just pause amoment and not do carnivore,
because a brain surgeon is doingcarnivore.
But maybe it's worth furtherinvestigation and that's what I
ended up doing.
But yeah, that whole thing atHack your Health was surreal,
incredible.
I was very nervous at first andthen, when I got done, I'm like

(02:39):
I want to do this some more.
This was a lot of fun,especially being able to share
some of these stories.
Like Bill Knott, who we have inthe documentary.
It seemed like the audience waskind of going crazy for Bill's
story.
He's become a huge friend ofmine, so that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
As well, yeah, I mean , it was a great presentation.
I think everybody was on theedge of their seats and loved it
, and I want to kick off thepodcast, too, by talking about.
You know your start, yourjourney.
You know your personal healthexperience.
So can you tell us a little bitabout your own health
experiences and what made you godown this rabbit hole of

(03:16):
finding a proper human diet?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Proper human diet has literallysaved my life.
I had so many health issuesStarted out with obesity.
At my heaviest I was 100 poundsthan I am right now.
I had kidney stones at one time.
That was some of the worst painI've ever been through in my
whole life.
I was diagnosed with IBS maybe10, 15 years ago.

(03:40):
My stomach just always washurting me.
Every time I'd eat a meal mystomach would hurt.
It's always like gurgling andbubbling.
It always bothered me.
I had my gallbladder removedseveral years ago because of
these stomach issues and theychecked my gallbladder and the
doctor was like it's borderline,like you could probably keep it
, but I was in so much pain Iwas like I want to try anything,

(04:01):
so take my gallbladder out.
A couple of years after that myappendix burst on the operating
room table almost killed me ifI wasn't going in.
I was going in to get itremoved and it burst right
before they started doing thesurgery.
A lot of these things I havefound in retrospect I think
wouldn't have been issues.
I really believe the root causefor most of these was my
nutrition.

(04:22):
I also had skin cancer on myear at one time, but the worst
issue for me was mental health.
I suffered from just horribledepression 10, 15 years clinical
depression, suicidal depression, horrible anxiety turned into
insomnia.
I went many years without goingin for help until my wife

(04:43):
finally convinced me I had to goin for help.
And then they put me onmedication and I did that for
about a little over 10 years.
I was on pretty much everyantidepressant SSRI medication
and I was just the definition ofhopelessness.
About eight years ago I wassitting at home and I went to
sit up and I got very dizzy andmy face was going numb and my

(05:06):
fingers to sit up and I got verydizzy.
My face was going numb and myfingers were numb and I got very
confused.
I was trying to tell my wifesomething and I couldn't find my
words at all.
She called 911 and I suffered aTIA mini stroke.
They rushed me to the hospital.
I spent five days at thisstroke unit in the hospital.
Thankfully, I had some issuesthat lasted for probably a year,

(05:27):
but it wasn't a permanentstroke.
A TIA mini stroke is usuallytemporary, so I had to go in for
physical therapy and thingslike that.
But they did all these tests.
You're like man, this guy inhis late 30s.
Why is he having a mini stroke?
Why is he having all of theseissues?
One other issue I forgot tomention I had sleep apnea using
a CPAP machine for years, justsnoring like crazy and having

(05:50):
trouble breathing.
So they did a bunch ofsubsequent tests when I had that
mini stroke and they diagnosedme with congestive heart failure
.
They said your ejectionfraction is 44.
And what that means is justyour heart can't keep up with
the needs of your body.
It's not pumping enough bloodfor the needs of your body.
And they said maybe the sleepapnea that I was having was

(06:10):
likely contributing to that andsome of the heart issues.
But I was just a mess, all ofthose things combined.
And then, on top of all of that,I ended up getting gout.
I put that in big quotationmarks because I'm not sure if it
was gout or what it was, but itwas in my right foot, in my
second toe, and it it hurt sobad it was just.

(06:30):
It hit me one day and I couldnot put any pressure down on my
foot.
I had to use crutches.
I went to the hospital.
They checked it out.
I went back over the course of18 months.
I saw three different doctors.
Two of them said it was gout.
The third one just said youjust have a ton of inflammation
in that toe for some reason andif you want to fix it we're
going to have to do surgery.
We'll have to cut the toe, cutthe joint.

(06:52):
They were going to put likethis metal ball bearing in there
or something.
It was just a crazy thing andthat was the last straw.
I didn't quite do that surgery.
I was so close to doing it and Isaw a man named Dante Frigno
from a YouTube channel, frignoFreedom, talking about how he's
going to do this all meat dietand I thought the guy was insane

(07:12):
, crazy.
On the flip side, I thoughtthis makes sense because I knew
a little bit about the ketogenicdiet.
I had found that years ago andI had dipped my toe in.
I did a little bit of keto andI had some good success, but I
could never I could nevermaintain keto.
But when I saw Dante, I'm likethe science makes sense, that's

(07:32):
a strict ketogenic diet.
But you're insane.
How are you going to only eatmeat?
You're going to clog yourarteries, you're going to get
bored.
You just you can't, you can'tdo that, and kind of long story
short.
I realized that video was twoyears old and very negatively
and cynically I'm like I'm goingto fast forward.
Look at this guy's latestYouTube video.
There's no way he's still doingcarnivore.
And so I went and looked at hismost recent video.

(07:53):
You couldn't even recognize him.
He lost all of his weight, hugesmile on his face and he had so
many of the same issues that Ihad IBS and depression and brain
fog and things like that and heovercame all of those things.
So that really really lit afire and inspired me.
I still wasn't ready to do itand then, like I kind of

(08:14):
mentioned earlier, I went downthe rabbit hole of research.
I found Dr Ken Berry.
I watched probably every singlevideo that he's ever done and I
was still in denial like what'sthis dude selling?
Like you can?
This dude selling?
Like you can't?
This guy's talking about eatingbacon.
There's gotta be some salespitch.
And I never found a sales pitchfrom Dr Berry.
And then I saw I found Dr PhilipOvadia, because still my big

(08:35):
concern, despite Dr Berry, was Igot congestive heart failure.
I can't clog my arteries upwith meat.
And I found Dr Philip Ovadia,heart surgeon, who's performed
thousands of heart surgeries.
He's eating this way.
I'm like heart surgeon eatingthis way.
A guy that does brain surgeryeating this way.
Dr Ken Berry, family medicineI'm seeing all these people.

(08:56):
Dr Jordan Peterson I saw him onJoe Rogan.
I'm like arguably whether youagree with the guy or not pretty
smart guy and he's eating thisway.
So eventually, from all thosegood doctors, I decided I'm
going to give this thing a try.
I told myself I'm going to dothis for 30 days as a strict
elimination diet.

(09:16):
I couldn't wrap my brain aroundjust eating meat for 30 days.
So I told myself I'm going toeliminate sugar and processed
junk and all of this garbagethat humans were never intended
to eat.
Essentially, I was tellingmyself I'm just going to eat
meat because that's all that'sleft when you eliminate all that
garbage.
Basically, and that's sort ofhow I started.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's like such a common.
You know, I feel like a lot ofpeople, especially looking at
like 2017, 2018, it's like youmight have got exposed to the
Sean Baker Joe Rogan episode.
You might got exposed tosomething on Instagram, but I
feel like a lot of people arelike it's just Atkins all over
again, kind of thing.
Myself included.
I did keto to start.

(09:55):
I was like looking for somerelief.
I had some autoimmune issues.
Former vegan for two years, I'mlike ah man.
So keto was great.
But, like you, like I feel likeI really didn't find the
benefits until I really kind ofeliminated a lot of different
things and keto was just likethere's so many keto treats and
keto this and keto that, andit's just like you can't.

(10:18):
It's like everything's stackedagainst you.
But if you go to the carnivorediet, it's like, okay, this is
my, my little wheelhouse and Istay in here, and the results
really speak for themselves.
You know now you've been so,how you've been carnivore for
how long now.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm coming up on 550 days 550 days Dang Awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
What were the um kind of immediate effects like
leading up and then?
How are you feeling now withsome of those issues you
described earlier?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, it was incredible and I'm very thankful
because not everyone has maybeas quick of results as I have,
although lately, from what I'vebeen seeing, it's been kind of
incredible.
The first thing for me was Istopped snoring and, like I said
, I had a CPAP machine.
For years I had to strap thismask to my face.
I hated that thing so much.
I stopped snoring immediatelydoing carnivore.

(11:11):
My wife, my poor wife, foryears she had to listen to me
snore and then when I had theCPAP machine half the time, like
I'd stop breathing, she says,like are you dead now?
Now on carnivore, she's moreworried because I don't make any
noise and I sleep so calmly.

(11:31):
She's kind of like, are youstill there?
Yeah, I stopped snoring rightaway on carnivore and honestly,
that kind of made me mad andhappy at the same time.
I was mad because my sleepdoctor I saw two different guys
over the years, different CPAPmachines, but they were just
like you're way overweight, yougot to lose a bunch of weight.
You're not going to stopsnoring until you lose a bunch
of weight.
And my neck was always verylarge and I was.
I was like 100 pounds heavierat my heaviest.
So I needed to lose weight.

(11:52):
But in my brain that was thesole reason I was snoring and
therefore I was pretty hopeless,like I'm never going to lose
100 pounds, like I've never beenable to do that before.
So I'm just going to snoreforever.
I saw Jordan Peterson, which wementioned earlier on Joe Rogan
and on his testimony he said toJoe Rogan I stopped snoring the
first week on carnivore.

(12:12):
So that's what Jordan Petersonsaid.
Subsequently I've heard a lotof other people and I've since
found the reason that I wassnoring, and I believe many
people are snoring.
Sure, it doesn't help being 100pounds overweight, that's going
to cause a little bit of it.
But most of the issue for manypeople is inflammation.
Our tongues, our throats, ourairways get inflamed and even if
it's inflamed just a littletiny bit, that affects the

(12:33):
volume of air that can gothrough your airway and you can
end up snoring.
So I stopped snoring right away.
I was so happy about that.
I had gone down the rabbit holeon sleep over the years.
I had gone down the rabbit holeon sleep over the years.
I've I watched like sleepspecialists.
There was this guy on Joe Rogan.
I remember years ago MatthewWalker talking about different
ways to improve your sleep andthroughout the years, with my

(12:57):
horrible, horrible depression, Ihad the only thing that ever
really touched.
It was a little bit when I didketo, but I couldn't maintain it
.
I fell into the keto snacks andall of that as well, but
whenever and this was rare.
But whenever I get't maintainit, I fell into the keto snacks
and all of that as well.
But whenever and this was rarebut whenever I'd get very good
sleep, I could see the next daylike whoa, I'm not as anxious or
depressed.
There was like a correlationthere.
So when I fixed that snoring, Iwas just thinking this is going
to help with like a lot ofthings and it ended up helping

(13:19):
with a lot of things.
The depression, anxiety startedsubsiding as, like, my sleep
improved.
So a couple weeks into carnivore, my inflammation went down.
I think that was like two weeks.
Not the pain in my foot, thegout, that took a little bit
longer, but I had.
I had pain in my lower back foryears and I didn't even know it
was there, like I knew it wasthere, but I thought it was an

(13:40):
injury.
I thought I lifted somethingweird in high school.
This is always going to bethere it.
It was like every night.
My poor wife.
I'm like could you rub my back?
It hurts.
And she'd rub it, it wouldnever fix it.
It went away, like within acouple of weeks on carnivore.
I'm like this is crazy.
And then I'm like I didn't evenrealize this, but I've always
had this weird sort of achytinge in my elbow that went away
.
Things that had become normalbecause Normal because I went

(14:02):
along with them for years andyears and decades and decades
and they became my new normal.
I started noticing going away.
My mood started getting better,the sleep improved.
One of the most remarkablethings that happened was
actually for my daughter, andone of the reasons that I did
this I was kind of doing it as ascience experiment for myself.
My daughter Lily.
She's 19 now, but she had openheart surgery at age 13.

(14:24):
She suffered two blood clots acouple of years later, nearly
died in her house.
And since she was 13, she hadthis skin condition called HS.
It looks like acne.
It's incredibly painful.
It was all over her chest, allover her back.
It hurt her really, really bad,like she had open heart surgery
, blood clots, and she was moreworried about this HS.

(14:44):
She came to me and her mom oneday and she said this is so
painful I just want to die.
And we took her to fivedifferent dermatologists all
over the state like expensivespecialists.
One of them gave her pills, oneof them gave her a cream.
One of them said we want to doan injection.
And we tried everything andnothing worked.
So when I was on day eight ofcarnivore, I had this epiphany.

(15:04):
I was like, oh my goodness,like Lily, man, this is just the
food you're eating.
And I watched Jordan Petersonand his daughter, michaela
Peterson, and she totallyreminded me of Lily with all of
her health issues.
So I said, lily, I really thinkthis is the food you're eating.
It's almost like an allergicreaction and she was so
desperate she decided to try it.
Long story short sorry, I tendto ramble Eight days into her

(15:26):
doing carnivore, half of herback had cleared up from the HS
and she went on to do it for 30days with me, all of it
completely gone within 30 days.
And this was five years thatshe suffered with this.
And again, it made me madbecause not one not one of those
dermatologists that we went toin desperation ever mentioned

(15:47):
nutrition, and that was entirelythe cause and they were giving
her pills and injections andthings that never worked.
So that got me very fired up.
Then my depression and anxietystarted lifting.
Oh, my IBS.
I think within a month, threeweeks to a month, I'm like I
can't feel my stomach.
What is going on?
My whole life it was alwaysthis heavy pressure in the

(16:07):
stomach and I'm like I feel likeI don't have a stomach anymore.
And no more IBS, no more likefarting 500 times a day like I
used to do before.
I just I started feeling justincredible and then my energy
started going up.
I remember waking up a coupleof weeks into carnivore and
telling my wife I'm like I feellike a kid again.
I feel like my legs feel likethey slept last night, like

(16:29):
they're dead, like they justfeel so rested.
I just I feel incredible.
And on my 30 days of doingcarnivore I said I want to do
one YouTube video on this.
I've been doing YouTube forlike eight or nine years on our
homestead YouTube videos aboutchickens and goats and
greenhouses.
So I'm like I don't want tochange the subject to this
carnivore thing, but this is soremarkable I can do one video on

(16:52):
it.
So I did my 30 day update oncarnivore diet video and it just
went nuts and like I was reallyfired up and passionate.
I was just telling the truth.
Like this is crazy, whathappened to me.
I'm mad I didn't know aboutthis before.
I was just telling the truth.
Like this is crazy, whathappened to me.
I'm mad I didn't know aboutthis before.
I'm going to continue doingthis after 30 days, even though
initially I told myself I'm justgoing to do 30 days, I'm going
to go back to moderation.
I'm like there's no way in hellI'm going back to moderation.

(17:13):
I feel absolutely incredibleright now.
And that video took off and thenI started getting comments from
people that are like I hadsuicidal depression, like you
did, carrie, five years ago.
I went carnivore.
It's all gone.
I just comment after comment ofpeople improving their mental
health, type two diabetes, ibsreversing.
I'm like this is incredible,like I thought this was just
like me and Dante and a fewpeople like Dr Barry talking

(17:35):
about it.
I'm like there's a lot ofpeople doing this with success.
Why didn't I know about thisbefore?
Or my daughter know about thisbefore?
And that's where I decided todo more videos and eventually
decided I wanted to do adocumentary about it it's mixed
feelings, almost right.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's like you never knew how good you would, could
feel, because you never feltthat good and you have this
relief.
But it's also like you'resaying you're like you're pissed
off.
It's like what, what have webeen doing all of these years?
And it's a very like you know,saying you're like you're pissed
off.
It's like what, what have webeen doing all of these years?
And it's a very like you know,go to the doctor, go here, go
there.
Well, it's just you want to.
You know sleep apnea specialistor whatever it may be, and just

(18:15):
changing the nutrition and gone.
You know all of it all of it.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I always show people this, but here's a little.
These are like 15 to 20 pillsin a container that I was on,
and this isn't even all of them.
I'm on zero medications now.
I'm on nothing.
My only medication is eatingthe proper human diet and I'm
absolutely thriving.
Every one of those things IBS,snoring, depression, anxiety,
insomnia, every single one ofthe gout that I had in my foot.

(18:41):
That took a little bit longerthat was around day 70 avoided
surgery on my foot, like it's.
It was all just the nutritionand the foods we're eating.
Yeah, it makes me.
I'm happy.
I'm happy for myself, like Ifigured this out, but then I'm
also mad because people aregoing back to those same doctors
and the only option that everysingle one of them are getting
is well, here's some pill weit's, it's not utilized and not

(19:12):
looked at.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know it's all the aftermath.
Lifestyle and nutrition isreally going to be the key and
you know hospitals are reallydesigned for.
You know what they are designedfor.
You know I break my leg, I youknow a pregnancy, an accident,
whatever.
But we are flooding in thehospitals for things that are
100% preventable and,unfortunately, everything is

(19:37):
stacked up against us, even fromyour knee high to the ground
cereal meals out of a box,processed food, ultra processed,
highly palatable.
It's really tough to navigatethe landscape of food today
versus 100 years.
Know, a hundred years ago it'sjust night and day.
So now you get all fired up andI'm with you and you want to

(19:59):
start this documentary.
Like what are the steps thatyou start to take?
Cause I feel like that's a hugeundertaking.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I wish you would have told me that on day 67, when I
announced it, because you getthis carnivore energy and you
get like a second chance at lifeto get really motivated.
I had seen a documentary 15years ago on Netflix called
Fathead and it was about theketogenic diet and it was a guy
named Tom Naughton and he was Ibelieve he was like a standup

(20:28):
comedian.
He'd never done a documentarybefore.
I think he almost filmed it onlike a camcorder or something,
but the information was valuable, like the quality wasn't the
best in the world and I.
That was how I learned aboutketo and I thought Dr Barry and
these good doctors, they'rereaching a lot of people on
YouTube, but not everyone's onYouTube.
There's a lot more people onNetflix or these streaming

(20:49):
services that aren't.
They don't even know that thisis an option.
I guess I just wanted to getthe word out to as many people
as possible that were hopeless,like I was, with depression and
anxiety.
That was the main reason forthe documentary is, and I've
since been so blessed tointerview, like Dr Georgia Ede,
harvard-trained psychiatrist.
She wrote the book Change yourDiet, change your Mind, and so

(21:10):
many of the people I talked toon my YouTube channel that had
mental health issues depression,anxiety, ptsd overcame it by
changing their diet and I'm likeI wish I would have just had
that as a tool in my toolbox.
I probably still would havedone the standard of care, but
then I would have been likedesperate.
I could have tried this sort ofthing.
So on day 67, well, quick sidestory, my wife and I have

(21:31):
triplets plus one.
We have four girls.
My older daughter, lily Imentioned earlier.
One of my girls, emma, was veganfor five years because she
watched a Netflix propagandavegan movie that kind of guilted
her into doing this.
Her mother and I were just likethis is just a phase.
She's going to do this for liketwo weeks and then horrible
parents that we are went on forfive years and she just started.

(21:53):
She was suffering.
She was so fatigued, acne she'sgoing to bed at like 5.30,
malnourished, and she decided togo carnivore and a lot of
people give me a hard time LikeI forced her to do it.
I never even thought she woulddo it On her own.
She decided to do carnivore,from going full vegan to eating
a hard boiled egg to like thenext day she's eating like fatty

(22:13):
ribeye and absolutely thrivingLike.
It was insane.
Her transformation, her acnecleared up, her mood improved
like so quickly.
She's younger, so maybe she's alittle bit more resilient, but
I always said to her she refusesto eat any meat unless she
knows where it comes from.
That had a good life.
We get a lot of our meat fromour neighbor.
He's an independent sixthgeneration farmer.
He names his cows.

(22:35):
He's not putting any weirdstuff there.
The cows are grazing in thefield.
They have a good life.
So I told Emma I'm like you'rekind of like a compassionate
carnivore.
And then we decided to make ashirt Like that's a kind of a
cool t-shirt, compassionatecarnivore.
And then I announced it on myYouTube channel.
I'm like, well, wait a minute,I don't want to.
What are you going to do?
You got to sell the shirt,right?
I'm like I don't want to profitand make a bunch of money off
of this.
I'm not patting myself on theback, I want to just do this as

(22:58):
like a passion project and I'mlike maybe we could make a
documentary and any money we getfrom these shirts, foolishly
thinking like we're going tofund this whole documentary with
some shirt sales.
That was how it all came about,and my daughter Emma and I, on
day 67, we're like we're goingto do this documentary and in my
head, though, I'm like we'lljust do whatever.
It's the words and the storiesthat matter.
But I announced right from thatday I want to do it about the

(23:19):
stories.
I'm hearing so many stories onmy YouTube channel and I don't
think I could tell anyone.
Just eat, like I eat, justtrust me, just eat carnivore.
No one's going to listen, butyou can inspire people and they
could see someone like Bill inAlaska or Jeff DeProsperous.
They could see their story andmaybe it'll inspire them to want
to change.
So that was the idea from dayone, but I had no idea what I

(23:39):
was getting into.
We have since like it'sabsolutely incredible what's
happened since then.
We have a whole team of likevolunteers and I'm really
excited with the quality, thecinematography, like what we're
getting in the documentary.
But that was day 67.
And then, from there, I did a10-hour live stream all about
Carnivore, and I had some of thegood doctors and individuals

(24:02):
share their stories.
We did that to raise initialfunds for the documentary.
Then I met Bill Knott in Alaska.
He was 700 pounds stuck in hishouse for four, almost five
years and he sent me thismessage about his horrible,
suicidal depression and hiswords just resonated with me and
three weeks later my daughter,emma, and I flew out to Alaska
and he was the first person wefilmed for the documentary.

(24:24):
We were able to raise somefunds through that 10-hour live
stream we did.
We later did a 24-hour livestream and probably like 200
other, just individual carnivorestories and every penny we get
from super chats, from livestream, from donation, goes a
hundred percent towards thedocumentary.
I'm not taking a salary, I'mnot making a penny off of it,
but that's how.

(24:44):
That's how it all sort ofstarted was just kind of a crazy
foolish idea.
That's really evolved intosomething bigger now.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, like I said, it's a huge undertaking.
I've had Vinny Tortorich onhere a few times and you know
I've talked to him and he's justlike you don't get into
documentaries like this to makemoney Like he goes.
If you break even, you're lucky.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I have heard that over and over again.
Yeah, if we, if you get anylittle gas money, like 70 cents
at the end of it, you might.
It's not a thing to make money.
And, on the flip side, likewe're making it even crazier
because initially I'm like we'lljust try to get this on Netflix
or one of these things.
We're trying to get it on thebig screen.
There's not that manydocumentaries that end up on the
big screen but in order to dothat the quality has to be

(25:29):
superb, like we have.
We had to get Netflix approvedcameras just to make sure we
could even get on Netflix.
So it's, it's really.
It's really come a long way.
But that was on day 67.
I'm on day 550 now, so that was480 days ago.
We have we filmed over 30interviews so far, including

(25:49):
most of the good doctors DrOvadia, we filmed Dr Berry down
in Tennessee, dr Chafee, drBaker, dr Kiltz, dr Tony Hampton
out in Chicago.
We filmed some just incrediblestories and then a whole bunch
of individual stories.
Since then, bill Knott's beenthe big one.
My daughter Emma and I just gotback a couple of weeks ago from
Alaska filming Bill Knott.

(26:11):
One year later, the wholepremise of the documentary is
we'll follow several individualsfor one year doing a proper
human diet for different healthissues, and then we'll have a
whole bunch of other people inthe middle of the documentary
that have already done one year,so just to.
Otherwise the thing's going tobe like 12 hours long, but we
just filmed Bill after one yearand that was pretty, pretty
remarkable.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, talk about Bill , because he's definitely.
I mean, I only saw a littleclip.
You know a few like clips hereand there, but he seemed like a
fan favorite for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Everybody loves him.
It's it's insane.
It is so incredible becausewhen Bill reached out to me, I
could have like I had probably athousand people that said, yeah
, film me, I'll be in yourdocumentary, and I didn't spend
hours and hours.
I'm just like what this guy issaying just resonates with me.
He's speaking from the heart.
The fact that we picked Billand it all worked out is a
miracle.

(27:00):
It is absolutely insane.
Three weeks later I went out tofilm him.
I'm driving there with myteenage daughter.
I'm like this guy could be anax murderer, I don't know.
We just met this dude on theinternet.
He's like come out to my house.
I'm flying to Alaska to filmhim.
He's since started.
We started a GoFundMe.
We helped him get his GoFundMegoing because meat in Alaska is
so expensive.
We were hoping to raise 1500bucks, I think.

(27:21):
Within like a couple of weeksit was at like $17,000.
And then it's gone up crazysince then.
So he has enough money to payfor meat to get him through the
whole year, which was nuts.
And he's in this small house.
He hadn't left his house infour or five years.
So when Emma and I went thereand met him, he's just the
sweetest, nicest guy, but wewere like I was scared.

(27:42):
I'm like this is crazy.
This isn't even a house, it'smore of a room and he's not even
stuck in the room.
He's literally stuck in the bed.
He can just barely walk to thetoilet eight feet away and he's
hunched over.
He couldn't stand up straight.
He was always hunched over.
He had to have his hands on hisknees and he slept hunched over
.
And when we left, I'm like Ibelieve he has the resolve, I

(28:03):
believe in Bill to do this, butit's probably too late.
He's 700 pounds.
He had a fib, heart issues,lymphedema, all sorts of
swelling, but it's beenincredible.
He started a YouTube channel.
He was on disability beforethis because he's stuck in his
house, 700 pounds.
He just within a couple monthshe got off of disability.

(28:23):
He's supporting himself throughhis own YouTube channel, stuck
in his house, without ever evenbeing able to leave.
I'm like that's incredible byitself.
He's built up a big fan base.
Everyone loves him because he'sjust such a nice, genuine,
sweet person.
And, yeah, a year went by,believe it or not, and Emma and
I went there to film him oneyear later.
So last year when we went there, I knocked on his door.
He couldn't even get up toanswer the door.

(28:45):
He waved us through in thewindow and we went inside.
This time I knocked on the door.
Everyone's gonna have to watch.
Watch it in the documentary.
But he came outside and into thebeauty of Alaska and we filmed
him at Hatcher's Pass, alaska,which is one of the most
beautiful places, I think, onthe whole planet, and it's just
incredible.
He's down over 260 pounds inone year.
He's standing up straight.

(29:07):
He could barely walk eight feetbefore he can.
He can walk like 80 feet nowwith no issue.
He's walking upright.
And the most valuable, importantthing of all of this was just a
couple of weeks into doingcarnivore.
Of course he had to lose a lotof weight, being 700 pounds.
Something more importanthappened for him he overcame
depression and anxiety.
This black hole, darkdepression he suffered from for

(29:30):
years and years and years, justvanished.
It was incredible.
I was so happy for him when hetold me that and that was
another thing that got me firedup about this documentary.
Like everyone we'reinterviewing is doing it for one
reason, but almost every one ofthem is like my mental health
is so much better than before,even if they weren't depressed.
The brain fog goes away, theanxiety goes away and you just

(29:50):
you feel like you've never feltbefore.
So, yeah, he's awesome.
Bill Knott N-O-T-T.
On YouTube.
If anyone wants to.
He does a video every week.
I'm like I'm a super fan myself.
I'm like watching it all thetime, just staying up to date.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, he gave.
He did a little like kind ofself video for the crowd at Hack
your Health and everybody wasjust clapping.
They're like, yeah, yeah, itwas great.
And and you're right about thewhole like netflix thing and
trying to get it onto netflix.
And you know, you have theproduction of like game changers

(30:26):
, you know, by james cameron.
Like that is something that Ihad.
People that I knew that werelike you know what, I'm gonna go
vegan because of game changers.
It's like, because it's, it's avery like.
As you watch it, it's like, wow, this is amazing.
This is like so well done, it'sgotta be true.

(30:46):
Well, I think they did a postlike I think it was like last
year or something, where all thepeople that were in game
changers, like they're, eitherthose athletes are either hurt
or they're not doing vegan orvegetarian anymore.
So that's like out the door.
Um, you know, blue zones andthings like that.
It's, it's.
It's something that I thinkthat we need.

(31:06):
You know, cause combating forksover knives.
When that came out, I was victimto that.
I'm like, oh, I'm going veganfor sure.
Man, like it's right there.
It says I'm watching the doc ofthis science.
You know it's all good, butthen my health started to
deteriorate and I couldn'tfigure out why I'm doing exactly
what I should be doing.
But, um, but to get those shotsand get everything it's, it's

(31:28):
gotta be tough and it's gotta bereally hard.
Uh, and you also, like Bill, iswas like one of the highlights.
But Maggie on the ranch how washanging with Maggie, oh my
goodness, maggie's incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
So for those that don't know, maggie is 83 years
old now.
She's a rancher from Canada andshe's been eating a carnivore
diet for over 65 years and wehave a little trailer we did
where she's flexing her muscleson the camera.
Nobody believes that she's 83.
She's got blonde hair like herhair isn't even gray.
Besides that, like people seethat visual and it's so amazing

(32:04):
to them.
But I'm just like you haven'tseen anything yet.
Wait till you see her in thedocumentary.
Just talking, I had to keepreminding myself and my buddy
Adam, who's filming with me.
Huge shout out to Adam.
She seemed like a teenager.
She had the energy of ateenager.
She's jumping over fences,climbing up on farm equipment,
running around nonstop all daylong, like putting me and Adam
to shame, as we're a littleearlier in our carnivore journey
than she was.

(32:24):
I'm like she just doesn't stop.
She was incredible and so muchwisdom and, like I said, we've
filmed over 31 interviews so far.
Almost every single one of thosefolks had some sort of mental
health component or some otherissue.
Maggie nothing, nothing, nomental health issues, never sick
, nothing Like she doesn't.
She's like I don't get sick.

(32:44):
People are like does she dyeher hair.
She's like I don't put anythingin my hair, I don't use any
skincare.
People are saying does she useskincare because she looks so
young?
I, she used skincare becauseshe looked so young.
I just eat a proper human diet.
She said when you put theproper fuel in the tank, the
engine just keeps going andgoing and going.
And one of the crazy things withher, I'm like you're 83.
The average life expectancy,sadly, right now is in the 70s.

(33:06):
People are dying in their 70s.
Are you ever going to retire?
And she got mad at me.
I thought she was going to slapme.
She's like why would I retire?
It's like are you nuts?
She's like I'm just gettingstarted.
And she said you can laugh atme if you want, but I believe at
83 that I am middle-aged andI'm going to live to be 120.
No problem, and I totallybelieve her and I've since I've
talked to Dr Chafee and some ofthese other doctors the science

(33:29):
behind it.
Most humans should be living tobe 120.
If our bodies weren't in astate of chronic and systemic
inflammation from the foodswe're not supposed to be eating,
that we're eating, probably allof us would be living well into
our 100s.
Yeah, maggie was incredible, youknow, like the cinematography
and everything.
I'm very proud of what we'redoing, but one of the things
that we're doing different thanI've seen in any other

(33:50):
documentary, is these storiesare so emotional and you get
connected with these individualslike Bill, like Maggie, like
Jeff DeProsperous.
I don't see that in a lot ofother documentaries, even some
of the good ones with reallygood cinematography.
A lot of times they're flashy,they look great, but some of
them get kind of boring.
They get into all the sciencewhich you have to have and we're

(34:11):
going to definitely have thescience and the experts in our
documentary, but really thedifference with ours is just
this emotional connection.
When you start watching ourdocumentary and you see Bill
Nott, 700 pounds, crying, stuckin his house in Alaska, and then
we go to the next person, areyou going to be like, oh, I'm
good, I don't want to see ifBill gets out a year later or if
he's still stuck there.
It's hard not to get connectedwith some of these personal

(34:32):
stories.
I think that's how we canreally change things, for people
is like I said earlier, nottelling them you do a carnivore
diet, but look, this is whatBill did.
This is what happened.
This is what Maggie did.
This is what happened, and tryto inspire them that way.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And you're going to get like these.
You get the doctors, you getthe personalized stories and,
you know, and especially withMaggie, you're going to get some
different information.
I think she's also talked about, like how the soil doesn't have
the right nutrients anymore andthere's like all these like
forever chemicals and thingslike that into the plants.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, 100 percent.
She didn't care about carnivore.
Her main issue and I've beentrying to do a good job of this
and we're going to in thedocumentary too is the
importance of soil health.
She said you look at a carrotin the store that everybody
praises.
Oh, it's so good for you, yougot to eat your vegetables.
She's like that has one sevenththe nutrients in it that it
would have even 50 years ago.

(35:24):
I'm like why is that, maggie?
And she said because we'rescorching our soils.
It's just chemicals, it'smonocropping.
It used to be mom, pop farmer orfarmers like Maggie that would
do it properly and the cow wouldpoop out into the soil and then
the soil would have nutrientsand bacteria and minerals in it
and you put a seed in there.
The nutrients and the mineralsand all that good stuff goes

(35:46):
into that seed.
You don't have it anymore.
They're just scorching it withglyphosate and chemicals.
You get a pretty carrot at theend because you're putting
chemical fertilizer on it.
It's got a green leaf and youthink you're doing something
great, but you're eating acarrot that's got one seventh
the nutrients it used to.
Plus, you're ingestingglyphosates and pesticides and
forever chemicals and I believethat's a huge issue.

(36:07):
It was a recent sort ofcarnivore epiphany for me.
All these 550 days or so I'vebeen on carnivore, I'm like I'm
doing so good because I'm eatinga proper human diet.
I'm doing so good because I'min ketosis.
I'm doing so good because I'mnot eating highly inflammatory
foods that I'm not supposed to.
All of those things are true,but I think a bigger piece of

(36:36):
the puzzle that I'm exploringmore and in the documentaries
are gut bacteria and our gutbiome.
And when you eat a carrotthat's got pesticides on it,
what is that doing to our gutbacteria?
I think it's not doing verygood things.
I know when you haveantibiotics it destroys your gut
bacteria and that could setpeople back years.
A lot of people don't know thathow much we've misused
antibiotics and our our gutbacteria.
Like Hippocrates said this 2000years ago, all disease starts in
the gut.
You are what you eat yourimmune system, your hormones,

(36:57):
everything.
When you have good gut biome,that affects everything in your
body.
So I think a big part of theproblem that goes maybe
underreported is Dr Chafee talksabout plants are going to kill
you.
There's toxins I agree withthat.
There's's pesticides glyphosatePeople talk about that a little
bit.
But what is all of this stuffdoing to our gut, biome, gut
bacteria?
Because people that are evendoing just a clean vegetarian

(37:20):
diet are still suffering withdepression and IBS and all of
these issues.
And it makes sense when youtake into account that all of
those things are saturated withpesticides and glyphosate.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
It's just everywhere now People like Maggie right,
they're doing this, they want todo good.
They want to do it moretraditional, less chemicals.
And I just had Sean Baker onthe podcast and one of the
things that he was saying, hegoes.
I'm not misquoting him, I don'tthink he's like the average
cattle rancher is.
The age is like 65.

(37:50):
So we're not getting morepeople or younger people into
this cattle ranch business ofwhere it used to be mom and pop,
but there's now conglomeratesand companies that are taking
over and you know who's going tofeed us in 20 years?
It's going to be big companiesand I feel, like the American

(38:14):
healthcare system, the foodindustry, like we got to start
making shifts or else it is onlygoing to be downhill from here
and there's only going to be andit's going to be stuff like
healing humanity and podcastsand things where this grassroots
movement to kind of steerpeople in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, I'm so glad you mentioned that.
That's going to be one of thebiggest takeaways At the end of
the documentary.
One of the big takeaways isgoing to be not that I'm eating
a carnivore diet and that fixedeverything, but I believe eating
a carnivore diet is the closestI can return to what's natural
for humans, given the 60,000options in the grocery store
right now.
And that includes carrots andvegetables and produce, for the

(38:51):
reasons I mentioned before, withglyphosate and pesticides and
stuff like that.
But the other big takeaway isthe importance of supporting
your local farmer soil health.
What do we do about this?
I get a lot of my meat, like Imentioned earlier, from my
neighbor sixth generation farmer.
The guy is so underappreciated.
He works a full-time job in afactory Every single day.
I drive by.

(39:12):
If I drive by his house at fourin the morning, he's working in
the fields.
If I drive by at like 10 PM atnight, he's working in the
fields.
And in between he's got afull-time job working for
pennies on the dollar.
He's so passionate, he loveswhat he's doing.
But to your point, I said thesame thing.
I'm like who's going to raisetheir hand and be like I want to
do what that guy?
But if I didn't even have him,I would drive three hours once a
month, throw a couple ofcoolers in the back of the truck

(39:54):
, meet my local farmer, shakehis hand, know where my meat's
coming from and know that I'm.
Know that I'm doing like a goodthing supporting someone that I
want to support and keep there.
It would totally fill up thefreezer for a month or whatever
and it would totally be worththe drive for that versus just
going to the grocery store andgetting who knows what kind of
thing.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I think that it's growing.
I feel like more people thanever have asked me about
carnivore.
You know, oh, I heard you docarnivore.
I heard you only me.
You know, you know, was a.
Jason Statham met with AnthonyChafee, eddie Hall, you know,
got it.
Jason Statham met with AnthonyChafee, eddie Hall, you know,
got some tips from Sean Bakerand so like, now we're getting

(40:35):
these.
What was the vegan right?
That was like you had the vegancelebrities and that was this
thing.
Now we're, slowly but surely,people are starting to who are,
you know, influential reallytake on this diet and, you know,
talk about it.
The other thing I want to talkI want to talk about Jeff as
well, because I know that youmentioned him earlier.
I believe he suffered fromcancer and can you kind of tell

(40:59):
us about you know Jeff's storyand how he's utilizing lifestyle
nutrition to kind of battlecancer?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, 100%, kind of like Bill.
I ended up finding this guyonline and he's become a best
friend of mine, jeffDeProsperous.
He's got a YouTube channelcalled Blessings on my Journey.
He was diagnosed a couple ofyears back with stage four
cancer.
They told him Jeff, you'reinoperable, incurable, you're
terminal and you have about 18months left to live.

(41:25):
He had cancer that had spreadthroughout his body and he was
doing the standard American dietwhen he was first diagnosed
with cancer.
He started on chemotherapy andhe was suffering.
He was sick and fatigued and,as you hear, with chemotherapy
it's pretty tough for a lot ofpeople.
And through a friend of his,dwight, who's an amazing,

(41:46):
amazing person, put him on toBen Bickman and some other
YouTube videos and the carnivorediet and Dwight had done the
carnivore diet and Jeff decidedto start.
Jeff also did a plant-baseddiet for like a year and he
believes that that might haveactually perpetuated the cancer
because he was ending up a lotof the stuff he was eating just
converts to glucose which endsup feeding the cancer.
He started carnivore a littlewhile into his cancer journey,

(42:09):
while he's getting chemotherapy,and it just changed his life
forever.
He's like chemotherapy, so muchmore bearable.
He wasn't getting sick.
He's in his forties.
He's like I feel like I'm 20.
Similar to Maggie.
We went to film him for aboutfive days out in Canada, could
barely keep up with him.
I literally got there and hehad two pages.

(42:30):
This is our itinerary.
This is everything we're goingto do.
We're going to go to theosteopath, we're going to go
work out at the gym.
I got to coach tomorrow.
All these things we're going togo do the cold plunge and it
was just incredible.
The thing with Jeff is hefollows Professor Thomas
Seyfried, who's been talkingabout cancer as a metabolic
disease for like 30 years now,and talking about cancer as a

(42:52):
metabolic disease for like 30years now.
And Jeff's whole thing is he'snot saying oh, if you do a
carnivore diet, you're going tocure cancer, but cancer feeds on
sugar, cancer feeds on glucose,so if you're starving of that,
it's probably helping.
Even if you don't believe allof that, the fact that Jeff
overcame depression doingcarnivore diet, the fact that
Jeff feels like he's 20, thefact that chemotherapy is more
bearable, the fact that Jefffeels like he's 20, the fact
that chemotherapy is morebearable, the fact that he feels

(43:12):
like his immune system is somuch stronger on a carnivore
diet.
He's like.
All of those reasons are goodreasons to be doing something
like this when you're goingthrough a cancer battle like he
is.
So he's incredible.
He's so inspiring and besidesthat, he also the thing that's
incredible talk about a warrior.
This guy has done, at lastcount, 43 five-day fasts every

(43:39):
other week.
So he'll do carnivore for aweek and then he'll fast for
five days water-only fast, andin the middle of the fast he'll
get his chemotherapy and there'sa lot of evidence around that
helping with the chemotherapyand actually needing less
chemotherapy medicine whenyou're doing that sort of thing.
So he's, he's incredible.
He's like the energizer Bonnie.
He's just a warrior.

(43:59):
So we filmed him for about fivedays in the documentary as well
.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
This episode was recorded on September 17.
Unfortunately, jeff toprosperous passed away on
September 29, 2024.
Unfortunately, jeffDeProsperous passed away on
September 29th 2024.
I want to take a moment toacknowledge his impact and
spirit.
Jeff was a true inspiration,bringing light and strength to
those around him.
Our hearts and prayers go outto Jeff's family.
Please consider supporting theDeProsperous family through

(44:26):
GoFundMe and watch Carrie Mann'stribute to Jeff.
All links will be located inthe show notes.
It's really amazing like findingthese people who are willing to
give these things a try.
You know, and it could be thecuriosity of the, of the diet,
but it's also like if yourback's against the wall, you're

(44:47):
going to try anything and if allthese things haven't been
working, you got to startsomewhere and you're going to
take whatever avenue possible.
And it seems like these thingsare helping people's health and
lives and kind of also to thedoctors as well.
You know we already mentionedlike a Kenberry Chafee Ovadia,
like these guys are goingagainst the grain and kind of
putting their careers on theline, saying hey, like I, like a
Philip Ovadia.

(45:07):
Like these guys are goingagainst the grain and kind of
putting their careers on theline, saying hey, like I like a
Phillip Ovadia get off myoperating table.
I don't want you here.
I want to keep you off of theoperating table and get you
metabolically healthy, uh, for alifespan, uh, and utilize the
hospitals for what they'redesigned to, but without them,

(45:30):
without people trying this andreally questioning why.
That's a piece too, it's like,just because the doctor says
something like question thosethings and you might need second
opinions and really got to doyour own.
Unfortunately, you have to kindof your own research as well.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
I'm with you.
Like I was wondering early onI'd meet other carnivores.
I'm like man, this person'sjust awesome.
And then I was thinking, why doI like carnivores?
I'm like maybe it's becausethey're kind of just, they're
brave.
You gotta be, you gotta be kindof brave to do this.
It pretty much goes againsteverything you've ever been told
.
And then I was thinking aboutthese doctors and I'm like

(46:06):
imagine the scrutiny they haveto go through to go against the
grain that, like you said,they're risking their career
with their colleagues and thingslike that.
So I have so much.
I'm always shouting out thesegood doctors.
I don't know that I would havestarted carnivore without them.
And I'm hoping that otherdoctors I believe most doctors
mean well, like a lot of thedoctors that prescribed me all
the medication I showed you.
But if you became a doctorbecause you want to heal people

(46:36):
and you're not asking them aboutnutrition or treating the root
cause, you got to changesomething up.
People give me a hard time.
They're like well, don't blamethe doctors, that's just the
system.
But I'm like, on the other hand, I say I barely graduated high
school and I was able to figurethis out for myself.
They're dedicating their lifeto healing people.
They should be able to figureout that nutrition is a big part
of this and that they should betreating the root cause.
Now I get the argument thatthey'll talk about nutrition to
a lot of people and people willnever listen, because it's

(46:57):
really hard to get people tochange their diets.
However, if someone issuicidally depressed, they
should have this as a tool intheir toolbox, and I was never
given this as a tool in mytoolbox, and a lot of people
weren't.
The only option I was evergiven was was medication.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
so talking to somebody about nutrition is
almost like saying hey, I needyou to change your religion.
Yeah, you know politics changeyour politics change your
religion.
Yeah, you got to pull them outof the matrix.
You know I for me, I I utilizecarnivore for a lot of different
things for my health andwellness and well-being, but I

(47:30):
really utilize it after I'vehealed myself.
You know I had autoimmuneissues.
You mentioned antibiotics, likeI was going through doxycycline
like crazy, and actually I wasgetting worse and it wasn't
until I kicked all that and thenI went on to carnivore diet.
But I utilize it for, likeendurance events, like Ironman

(47:50):
events, you know, working out.
And I just went to something Ijust had a podcast earlier with
somebody and we were talkingabout.
I went to this workshop aboutfueling athletes and I'll go and
I'll listen and I'm justcurious I know it wasn't going
to be a carnivore thing, butwhat they were telling people
and everybody in the in the roomis nodding their heads and I

(48:13):
just was dumbfounded like theamount of carbohydrates and
sugary things and how many timesthey're eating throughout the
day.
I'm like I'm carnivore, I don'teven eat that much.
I couldn't even just looking atwhat they were telling the
athletes or trainers toprescribe for their athletes and
nutrition.
It was crazy.
And then we all got theselittle baggies.

(48:34):
I swear to God, I'm not evenjoking there was Pringles in
there.
There was Pringles in there.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I despise Pringles, by the way.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Gummy, like fruit snack gummies, there was all
kinds of stuff.
It was like basically candy andlike, oh yeah, have this before
your run and then you're goingto have to have a post-run meal,
uh, and then you're going tohave to have this and that.
And like the amount ofcarbohydrates, I'm like I did a
freaking Ironman on less than 50carbs.
Don't tell me like you need youknow over 500 carbs for a 5k,

(49:12):
like that's.
It doesn't make sense, butthat's what is the norm.
And you know Casey Ruff right?
Yeah, I literally cause me andhim work together for my Ironman
.
I literally texted him as soonas I left.
I'm like dude incoming longtexts, get ready.
And I was just like describingall this stuff and I took a
picture of my goodie bag.
He's like man, I can't believethat.
I'm like yo, we got a lot ofwork to do.
Like this is really bad.
And people were asking aboutlike hey, I have a lot of gut

(49:33):
issues.
I want to do fasted running orfasted workouts.
I heard that helps.
And the person just shot themdown and I wasn't even going to
say nothing, but I raised myhand.
I was like, listen, I did, I doa lot of faster workouts.
I think if you want to explorethat, you should do that.
You know this dieticianbasically just denied it.
I was like try it, it'sself-expiration.

(49:54):
If it works for you, great.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
If that heals that gut and GI distress do that, but
we're in this whole, likeeverybody just stuck in the
matrix and then we got to pullthem out.
It's crazy.
I went on my own rant there.
No, I love it, man.
I'm glad you mentioned Pringles.
I had a.
This is my brother-in-law thatcame over for the weekend and
he's anti-carnivore.
He thinks I'm crazy and he'sgot this big container of
Pringles sitting on the counterand I'm like I I would be mad if

(50:22):
my dog ate one of those things.
That's like how bad those arefor you.
The whole food thing too, likeyou were mentioning.
That was the other story withJeff DeProsper that made him so
angry.
He'd go in for chemotherapytreatments and they'd come
around with similar junk likeyou just described.
Here's cookies for you, here'sEnsure for you.
While he's trying.
That's like I'm trying to thinkof the analogy he used.

(50:44):
It's like you're.
It's like you're drowning andthey throw you some weights
instead.
It's like you're drowning andthey throw you some weights
instead.
It's completely opposite ofwhat you should be doing.
It's just all hospital food andthen the food that we're
feeding our children in theschools is all completely
backwards and messed up.
The reason for doing thisdocumentary was depression,
anxiety.
There's so many health issuesin the world right.

(51:06):
But the real issue now that thereason I'm so passionate about
it is children and this nextgeneration.
You mentioned earlier processedfood, ultra processed food.
I feel like I grew up onprocessed food and I ate pretty
bad and I suffered horribly.
And this next generation islike the ultra processed food
generation.
It's way worse than I ate.

(51:26):
These kids walking around withthe Starbucks and it's just full
of sugar.
They're just mainlining sugarand high fructose corn syrup and
seed oils and all theseingredients we can't pronounce.
I really feel like it's goingto be a big awakening soon, like
what is going on with this nextgeneration and their health and
it should be no surprise.
But it's like you said, we'rein the matrix and everyone's

(51:47):
just like, oh, it's just the wayit's always been, kind of thing
.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, and we're sicker than ever, you know.
You know you got that.
You got the people, you gottheir stories, what's left Like,
what's going to be the nextstep here or upcoming?
And if you don't want to shareor give anything away, you don't
have to.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
No, I'm happy to.
We've done 31 interviews so far, but we still have more to do.
We just filmed Bill one yearlater.
We're still got to film Jeffand Mimi one year later, and
that happens near the end of theyear.
So many people, myself included, are excited for the
documentary.
Like when's it going to be done?
I'm like the premise is tofollow people over a year and
some of them haven't hit a yearyet, so that's why it's taken a
little while.
And we still have a couple ofgood doctors we're going to be

(52:31):
filming.
Near the end of this year we'regoing to be filming Dr Georgia
Ede down in Florida.
And another big announcementthat's pretty incredible is in
January we're going to befilming Tammy Peterson, jordan
Peterson's wife, in Arizona.
She also was diagnosed withterminal cancer.
She's been carnivore for a longtime.
It was so funny.

(52:52):
We were filming down in Austin,all of the good doctors Dr
Baker, dr Kiltz and I got anemail from someone and it said
I've been watching your YouTubechannel and I've been enjoying
it.
I'd love to have you on mypodcast.
It was signed Tammy Peterson.
I'm like Tammy.
What Like Tammy Peterson'swatching my YouTube channel?
This is so weird.
Long story short.
I went on her podcast.
I was like, please, I wouldlove to share your story.

(53:14):
We have a whole cancer segment.
You were diagnosed withterminal cancer.
You've been doing carnivore andshe agreed to be in the
documentary.
And then she emailed me backand she said oh, by the way,
jordan watched your teasertrailer too and he just tweeted
it out.
And he watched your teasertrailer too and he just tweeted

(53:35):
it out and he has like sixmillion followers.
I was like what is going on andtalk about surreal?
I, I just I still can't wrap mybrain around.
So we're going to be going tothe peterson family home and
filming, uh, tammy peterson, atthe end of the year.
So we're hoping to wrapeverything up, uh, near the end
of the year.
Uh, for the documentary, but uh,long story short, there's so
much that we can't fit it all inthe documentary.
But, long story short, there'sso much that we can't fit it all
in the documentary.
So we've already decided we'realready like editing some of
this together we're going to doa series afterwards where we can

(53:57):
do a whole episode just oncancer, a whole episode just on
depression, a whole episode onfertility issues, and I believe
it'll probably go on foreverbecause in the last just couple
of months, the number ofincredible stories that have
been coming through, I'm likewait, wait, we got to include
this.
And then it's like we're nevergoing to get the documentary
done if we keep including these.
So those will go on the seriesafterwards and then even after

(54:21):
that, we're going to do personalstories.
So you can watch just a BillNott, all of his story.
You can watch Dr Kiltz, who, bythe way, incredible doctor,
amazing individual carnivorestory of his own.
You can watch a whole Dr Kiltzepisode, a whole Jeff
DeProsperous episode.
So, and then we're just goingto keep.
We're just going to keep doingit.
Going forward is the plan.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
What can people do, myself or anybody else, to help
with this project?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah.
So the thing I'm very proudabout is our entire documentary
is crowdfunded and I'm nevertaking a salary.
I haven't taken a penny.
I put thousands of dollars ofmy own money in it.
What does that mean?
Like some people don't knowthis, but sadly most
documentaries many, some that wementioned earlier here most
documentaries nowadays aresponsored by some corporation.
You'll get a Blue Zonesdocumentary and then you find
out it's sponsored by BeyondMeat or some vegan company or

(55:13):
Kellogg's or some sugar companyor some pharmaceutical.
Ours has been entirelycrowdfunded, so there's no bias.
I'm just telling the truth Ifit's good or even if it's bad.
I did carnivore.
It didn't work Like I'm puttingthe truth in there.
So if you want to donate, it'sdonatehealinghumanitymovie and
again, every penny from thatgoes towards the documentary.
We're also selling, likeHealing Humanity, shirts and

(55:36):
memberships on my site.
Everything goes 100% towardsthe documentary.
I'm never going to take asalary.
I want to do this and I want toget done with it and have it be
a complete passion project.
That I didn't do for someperverse incentive, as Dr Barry
calls it.
He says a lot of this reasonthat we're so messed up is
because of all the perverseincentives.
Everything is money, and Iwanted to do something just for

(55:58):
the passion of it.
So, and if you can't donate,the other way you can help is
just maybe sharing the teasertrailer that we have.
If you go toHealingHumanitymovie, you can
watch our teaser trailer.
It's like three minutes long.
A lot of people are beginningto fire up with that.
You share that on Facebook,spread it around.
We appreciate that as well.
The ultimate thing you can do asan individual, though, is heal

(56:18):
yourself.
People say healing humanity.
That's an audacious like howdare you?
How are you going to healhumanity?
And Dr Kiltz said it best.
He's like it's really easy.
Best, he's like it's reallyeasy.
You just heal yourself.
I'll heal myself.
We all heal ourselves, and thebest way to do that is just to
return to what is natural forhumans.
Carnivore diet is the mostnatural thing I can do, but just
returning to what is natural inyour diet, in your everyday

(56:39):
activity, not sitting on ascreen all day, getting sunshine
, exercise, fresh air, thingslike that.
I think if, once we healourselves, we, we become sort of
this ripple effect and thenother people heal and so, uh,
those are some of the ways Ithink you can, you can help out.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
That's amazing.
I'm super excited for thiswhole project to come out.
I will be getting a t-shirt andI will be donating, for sure,
and uh spreading it out andputting everything in the show
notes so that uh anybody thatcomes across the clips or
whatever uh has access to thedonation link.
So, man, this was awesome.
I appreciate everything you'redoing in the space and this is

(57:17):
an awesome project and it needsto be done, and so I thank you
for your time and your efforts,and I know it's a lot, but I
myself appreciate it, amongstothers.
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Oh, thank you so much .
It's been a pleasure.
I really appreciate it others.
So thank you oh thank you somuch.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
It's been a pleasure.
I really appreciate it, Tony,Awesome.
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