April 28, 2025 • 27 mins
Dr. Sharnael Wolverton Sehon is a captivating multidisciplinary expert who seamlessly blends naturopathic /energy medicine, spirituality, and quantum science to empower individuals on their journey to wholeness. As the founder of True TV and author of five groundbreaking books, including her international best seller "The Science of Miracles: RE-Membering the Frequency of Love," Dr. Sharnael offers a unique perspective on achieving optimal health and unlocking human potential. Her global influence spans over 51 countries, where she shares her transformative insights through speaking engagements, online classes, and social media platforms. She also has over 15,000 clients online, remote with her technology using long distance biofeedback and outcome mapping miracles sessions to manifestation .
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome, dr Charnell.
I don't know if I'm saying thatright, but you'll correct me in
just a second.
Welcome to Quantum AlchemistMaster Podcast.
It's a pleasure to have youhere today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you so much.
Yes, that's how you say it, andI am so honored to be with you
guys, so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thank you so much for being here.
So I'm very intrigued because Iwas browsing through your
website, your stuff, yourworkshops, everything you offer.
I'm like, hmm, I like this.
I'm very interested.
This sounds like somethingright up my alley, right up my
audience's alley as well.
(00:38):
So I really want to dive deeperinto, kind of like, your
journey.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You know, how you got to where you are today and
whatever you really feel likesharing with us yeah, I think,
like everybody, we come here andwe kind of forget why we're
here, what we're doing, and weare given the opportunities to
either, like, just go with theflow and be a default and create
(01:05):
kind of mishap, mishappenly, um, and or, as things happen, um,
or as things that we create showup and we're aware of them, um.
It gives us that ability to eat, to either choose something
different or um, and or createsomething different, or just
(01:30):
continue getting the samenegative patterns over and over
again.
And for me, um, I didn't evenrealize, and no one ever taught
me, that we actually do create.
You know, as, as creatures, weare creators and, um, I really
wish that someone had told mefrom the beginning you know, hey
(01:54):
, you are, you're doing all ofthis, this, this is you, um, and
.
But for whatever reason, Iwasn't told that, wasn't told
that wasn't my path until it was, and once I really got the idea
that everything so far up tothat point was my creation, I
(02:15):
was depressed, honestly, becauseI was like, oh my God, what did
I do all this for?
And like, how much time have Iwasted?
But also, the good news is,well, if I can make it that bad,
then I can actually createsomething really powerful and
wonderful as well, and I canreverse engineer it.
And now it's at all of ourfingertips for anyone who is
(02:40):
aware and awake.
And so some of the examples, tobe specific, I mean just
terrible partnership.
You know, choosing the worstguys ever, and you know, for my
relationships and or you knoweven occupations, you know I
(03:03):
always felt like I wanted to bein some type of service or
ministry and I settled, you know, for a lot of jobs, literally
jobs that were just notfulfilling and or supportive or
nourishing to my soul.
And you know, again, no one satdown and ever told me well, you
(03:27):
can do something different andyou can create something else.
You know whether it wassettling for partnership or
settling for purpose.
I think it was a learned habittoo, you know, and nothing
against my parents, parents, um,you know, they were only doing
what they were doing as well,but I had there was some learned
(03:49):
behaviors there,environmentally, I think that,
um, that just had me buy into iteven more, uh, but, yeah, um,
on the brink of death and havingmultiple, very like I just
would graduate from a worse guyto a worse guy, um, and then
(04:11):
even my purpose of just, youknow, settling working at a bank
or in retail or you know,things like that, which there
isn't anything against any ofthat, but it just wasn't my
highest, it wasn't oncesomething that I would like wake
up and feel alive about, um,and I just thought, well, you
know, this is what you got to do.
You know you have kids and youhave this and you have to make a
(04:33):
living, and so you just dowhatever you can, instead of
having the opportunity and orthe memory, like the memory of
oh, I can create something elseand do something completely
different, and and then createthose opportunities as well for
those things to happen, and andwell, not happen, but to create
it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So let's unwrap and unravel the onion slightly.
I love what you've said.
I myself feel very identifiedwith everything you've mentioned
.
I think a lot of us will whenthey listen to your episode.
So I was the same thing.
I've been in healthcare forover 10 years.
Kind of same vary thesatisfaction.
(05:19):
But I would love to learn howyou know how you made that shift
.
Love to learn how you know howyou made that shift, kind of
like how that change started toevolve in you, that spark that
said that nudge right, that yoursoul's like taps you and it's
like hey got to move.
This is so uncomfortable for me.
It was a lot of pain and a lotof like, just kind of like being
(05:40):
pinned against the wall andthen you're like man, this is
pretty bad, I don't want to keepbeing here.
You know, if this is it, Idon't like it.
I have to find another way.
There has to.
I think it's that turning pointwhere you say there has to be
another way.
At least that's how it was forme.
But I would love to learn yourparticular way, or maybe it was
(06:01):
something in your life thathappened.
A lot of times, when we'rethrough that dark night of the
soul, something huge happens.
Relationships fall apart, thejobs, the everything, um.
So I would just kind of love tolearn how your journey got
passed to like started to createwhat you're more aligned with
(06:21):
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For me all of those things were happening in every
avenue the health, the abusethat I allowed um, the, the
purpose I remember in my seekingum would just literally come
home from work.
I was living in a separatebedroom at the time, with, with,
(06:43):
with, I say partner, but thatisn't a true, accurate statement
.
The person that I was livingwith um because there was no
partnership.
Uh, 13 years in separate rooms,what a waste um.
But I came home one day and Imean this is after doing
(07:04):
anything possible that I knew atthe time, with the tools that I
had of you know, fasting,praying, meditating, you know,
just seeking.
And at one point I remembercoming home from work and I just
I had what you said.
I've had those words of like,there has to to be more like
there, there's got to besomething more.
(07:25):
And I remember I heard, I heardwithin me, lift up your hands
and I was like what the heck?
Like, what do you, what do youmean?
Lift up my hands.
And so I literally lifted up myhands.
I'm in my bedroom sitting on mybed, it's about eight something
, 830 ish, and all of a sudden Ifelt this extremely like, warm,
(07:48):
almost like a honey typefeeling, touch the tips of my
fingers and then started goingdown over my hands and my arms,
touched the top of my headcompletely, like enveloped me,
um, and to this day I don't 100%know what that was.
(08:13):
Um, I remember feeling immenselove.
I remember A lot of tears, Iguess like a relief, a release
of angst, fear, grief, and thenit just completely covered my
(08:36):
body and I remember seeing likea really, really really bright
light and I actually felt or sawa man, and this is the second
time that I had seen this manand I recognized him as Jesus or
Yeshua and and look, I'm not Idon't consider myself religious
(08:58):
at all, but that's, how did this?
I had a similar experience atfour years old, not exactly, but
I did see the guy and I didn'teven know who he was.
I didn't find out who he wasuntil second grade, and so this
is my second time to see thisguy and he just he literally
called me to sit on his lap,like I was a little kid, but I
(09:21):
was 20, something you know as a,an adult, and I I go sit on his
lap and he just starts likerocking me, holding me, and all
he kept saying was it's okay,it's okay, it's okay, it's okay,
just over and over, withoutsaying words.
It was just like in his mindand I could hear him and he's
(09:42):
rocking me and I remember thisbright, bright, bright light and
feeling like, oh my gosh, um,he's here, or somebody's here,
something's here in the room,and, um, I opened up my eyes and
because you know when you're,when my eyes were shut I don't
know if you've ever had youreyes shut and a bright light
comes, and you know, when you're, when my eyes were shut I don't
(10:04):
know if you've ever had youreyes shut and a bright light
comes and you know likesomething's in the room.
And so I opened my eyes to seewhat was in the room.
The whole room was lit up and Iwas like where is this light
coming from?
And I saw that it looked likeit was coming from outside.
So I went, stood up, went to thewindow by the way, my hands
were still in the air and I waslike, oh, and I put my hands
(10:28):
down, I go look outside thewindow because it looked like
this bright light is shininginside my window.
And I go look out and likeeverything's lit and the whole
outside and I'm thinking whatkind of light is making the
entire neighborhood be so bright?
And I'm so disoriented.
(10:48):
And I walk out of my room andthe house is all lit up and I
looked at the clock it was like8.32.
Maybe two or three minutes hadgone by and then it took me a
little bit.
But what I finally realized is12 hours of my life had passed
like in a second.
(11:09):
I just I had missing time andprobably the whole 12 hours had
my arms up being rocked by thisbeing of love.
Maybe that's what I requiredand honestly, after that point
(11:30):
things really started shiftingpretty fast for me.
It wasn't long after that wheremy partner at the time actually
changed the locks on the door.
When I came home from work oneday and I was kicked out, I
thought it was the worstpunishment ever and just thought
it was the end of my life.
But it was the best thing thatever happened, because then it
(11:53):
just started this ripple effectof all these other things that
looked really tough, really hardand really like the end of the
line, but really it was an opendoor to start a brand new life
that I wouldn't have done on myown.
Um, teachers started showing up.
That started, um, explainingthese things to me better and,
(12:17):
uh, giving me opportunities tohave a different perspective,
not just about life, love andhealth, but about my purpose,
about my mission here, andthere's been several things that
have happened since then.
I had these two beings thatshowed up not long after that
(12:37):
and they were very specific informulas and graphs and colors
and very, very specific things.
They were probably like 14 feettall.
In my living room this is maybea few months after that point,
um, and also continuing to justpray and seek and meditate and
(12:58):
fast, and and that's not alwaysthe way to get there, um, but
that was again what I knew atthe time.
It was like, okay, I don't knowwhat to do, so this is what I'm
going to do and, uh, and itseemed to work, you know, um,
but I ended up writingeverything down that these two
beings gave me this informationand they actually showed me how
(13:21):
to use the technology to create,how we are all already given
all these things, how we havethis biofield and the power of
what this biofield does and how,the power of what our cells and
our organs and our blood andour thoughts and our feelings
and what we talk about, andconscious language, and you know
, all these tools that we'regiven that really truly create
(13:46):
one way or the other, and we caneither create something really
beautiful and harmonious andamazing, and or we can just go a
long life thinking things arehappening to us and that we have
no control, which is absolutelynonsense.
Um, and so, yeah, I put it allin a book called the Science of
Miracles.
I wasn't planning on writing abook, but everyone kept asking
(14:10):
me, like you know, showing,wanting to know the graphs and
the and the pictures and reallywanting to change, because they
were seeing the change in me andthey were seeing, seeing what,
what the fruit of those thingswere, when I was taking action
with those things and they're.
And I'm like you know,everybody can do this, we can
(14:30):
all create, we can all do this,and so, yeah, and so I've been
teaching on this now, um, forquite a while I've.
I was teaching way before that,but my teaching has changed.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Beautiful.
I love that you mentioned yourteaching has changed.
That's beautiful because as ourjourney changes, we start to
share something different.
Are you able by any chance, ifyou feel comfortable, um showing
us maybe one of the graphics onthe book?
(15:04):
Um, for those that are watchingthe video, that may be curious.
Also, is it available onaudiobook or just um?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
yeah, yeah, I have it in audio.
I think it's on spotify, okay,cool, um, but yeah, I have, uh,
it's on my website as well, butthe the graphs, just I mean
there's several graphs.
They're terrible.
I'm not the best um no worries,but I didn't draw this one.
(15:34):
But this talk about energeticpurgatory, um, and how we can
create our own purgatory.
And you know, because thebiofield is, is usually what
I've tested so far most peopleare around four to five feet.
There are people who have waybigger fields.
(15:54):
Animals have bigger fields.
Horses are 350 and feet,dolphins are unmeasurable, dogs
and cats are pretty far, um, but, and and I have tested some
people like up to 20 feet butbut the average is around four
to five feet.
And what entails of that field,of our field, is what we're
(16:17):
thinking about.
What we're talking about, whatwe're feeling.
Our cells have their owngenerated radiation.
Our organs have their ownradiation.
Yeah, I mean, when I worked ina cardiac rehab, I remember the
surgeons would talk about theblue light that they would see
in the heart.
You know we are electric andit's called a biofield because
(16:40):
it's both radiating out you knowbio meaning to radiation but
also there's a magnet involvedand so there's this torrid of in
and out, in and out, in and out, and we all have this field.
Animals and plants have thefield.
The Earth actually has a fieldas a planet called the schumann
(17:03):
resonance, and there's afrequency involved and there's
there's polarity.
So, again, radiation, but alsothis magnet, and our thoughts
and our words and our heart allhave this radiation, and then
the magnet of the heart is huge.
It's like 500 times, 5,000times more in the magnet pool
(17:29):
than it is the radiation.
And so what we're feeling, ourdesires, are incredibly
important because we can bethinking about something really
positive and we can even betalking about something positive
, but if we have fear or doubt,then it puts negatives in the
equation.
(17:49):
So you can have some positives.
And here here's the picture, uh, just the one that is so
terrible, but like some of thegraphics that I was, oh, I love
that.
I see it, I see it this isterrible, stick people, but like
this is the heart, uh, in themiddle, and we have all these
positives and negatives.
(18:09):
You know what we're thinkingabout, what we're talking for
showing that a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm very visual, so maybe this for some people this
could could really help.
That's why I asked if you couldshare that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm actually pretty excited to read your book.
Um, it sounds like something Idefinitely want to dive deeper
into myself.
So tell me a little bit moreabout kind of like the work you
do, a little bit more in depth,if that's possible.
Like is this is the biofieldsomething that you work with?
Is the mapping something youwork with?
(18:39):
Like, could you explain to us alittle bit more?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, so I'm actually a naturopath by trade, but I
don't.
I mean, I do work as anaturopath and I and use my
intuition as well to to helppeople on a physical level, and
I usually end up getting thepeople who have like the
craziest mystery, mysteriousthings that people can't figure
(19:04):
out Doctors can figure out.
They come to me and I'm able tohelp identify what the root
issue is and to to reverseengineer that, and I work with
thousands of people to do that.
Um, but also I it's because Iwork on an energetic level with
the field, I find out what'sgoing on in the field and
because usually whatever's goingon in the body is what's going
(19:27):
to project in the field and what.
What we think about, what we'retalking about, what we're
feeling is what's going out,which is what's getting a match,
and we can only get what we are.
So, whether it's a health issueor, again, partnership or
abundance, maybe you've beenstuck not creating money or you
know, creating monies againstthe law, but and or abundance or
(19:49):
prosperity, when we um, youknow, if there's lack, that
could be a genetic thing that wewere born into, that we
incarnated into that somehow inthe code of what the field is,
and or it could be anenvironmental thing, like maybe
mom didn't have money, so wedon't have money.
There is a scientific experimentwhere they took a thousand
(20:11):
fleas and they put them in thisjar and fleas can jump like five
, six feet and they were alljust put in this little jar.
I can't remember the time, butwhen they opened the jar the
fleas wouldn't jump out anymore,they just stayed in.
And all the babies that thefleas wouldn't jump out anymore,
they just stayed in, and allthe babies that the fleas
birthed would not jump out, eventhough they could jump five,
(20:32):
six feet way out of the jar.
And so a lot of the geneticengineering that can be encoded
in our DNA or mitochondria isstill the memory of that and but
.
But this can all be cleared aswell, and so I'll work with
mapping so I can find the snagof what is, you know, maybe in
(20:53):
the consciousness of whatsomeone's thinking or believing,
or being alive and be alive,believe, and, or we find relief,
relive again, and and, orfinding whatever snag in
consciousness.
And another tool I use islistening.
I'll listen to what people aresaying.
I can usually, four or fiveminutes, find the snag of what,
(21:14):
why these things are happening,just by listening to what they
say, um, and a lot of this wasout of these experiences that
I've had and um, of just beinglike, aware now of like, oh,
this is what's going on withthis girl, this is what's in her
field, and being able to seewhat's in the field, and using
(21:34):
biofeedback to help a little bit, too, on things that I may not
even see but I could find withbiofeedback, with technology.
So I work one-on-one withpeople.
I have workshops on my websiteas well for people who may be
interested in like livercleanses or muscle tapping,
testing or mapping themselves,and and we do have a class
(21:59):
coming up too, where we we dolive demos, and so I'm right, on
the workshop, we're literallygetting miracles.
On the workshop.
I have an I am divinepartnership class that there was
about six engagements that camewithin weeks of that class, and
one of them happened during theclass, literally.
(22:20):
So it's fun and easy when wechoose for it to be fun and easy
.
It's fun and easy when wechoose for it to be fun and easy
, and I'm still blown away andexcited whenever I get people
reporting their miracles to me.
But this should be normal.
This is our inheritance, thisis how we create.
This is why we're here to loveand to create and to be these
(22:42):
creatures that create, and it isfun and easy when we choose for
it to be fun and easy.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I love that.
I think to me, if it's okaywith you, that kind of feels
like a good place to end, Iguess, our shorter episodes.
For those of you listening,we've just transitioned from
longer episodes to shorterepisodes, but if you sign up to
our newsletter, you'll be ableto get masterclasses, which
pretty much are the secondportion of this conversation,
(23:12):
and, if I'm not mistaken, we'regoing to be going into
self-sabotage.
Is that correct?
Yes, yeah, so that's a topicthat I know I'm very interested
to dive into, particularly, andas I understand that, is there a
workshop associated with thatcoming up as well?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, we have one coming up March 2nd I believe
and that'll be live andinteractive.
It's an hour and a half andit's only $22.22.
So not even a huge investment.
For an hour and a half that's apretty good deal, I think, but
we wanted people to be able toshow up and be there and
(23:50):
remember their path that'sbeautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All right, thank you, it has been an honor to have
you here.
Could you share with us wherepeople could find you?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
anything you want about um contact information,
and then we'll wrap it up yes,um, if you go to drshornelcom,
(24:21):
yes, if you go to Dr Shornelldot com, that's pretty much
where all my social media is.
I have a whole area section formy website right now because
it's brand new, but if you go toany of my social medias you'll
find it there.
I'm on Facebook, twitter, andthen I also have a podcast that
I've been doing since the late1900s.
That sounds so far, sounds soweird.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Tell me about that.
I didn't know.
You had a podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yes, dr Charnel, true TV.
I was actually on televisionfor about three years and then
we moved everything online.
Um, they took my channel down,um, a little bit ago and we had
to completely start over, so Ilost several decades of
information there.
But I'm backing everything upnow and I have everything on
(25:05):
YouTube and bit shoot and rumbleand all of that kind of stuff.
So, but, yeah, I definitelycheck that out and subscribe and
we have different membermeetings and things like that
Sounds like similar to whatyou're doing too.
So, yeah, and if you go to mynewsletter, if you go to my
website right now, I'm actuallygiving a free gift, a free class
on clearing trauma andunderstanding the body and
(25:28):
trauma.
So if you go to drshornelcom,there should be a pop up that
comes up and they'll say like,hey, free class, and if you give
me your email, I'll send it toyou free.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's very good.
A lot of good resources.
So hop on there and check itout.
I'll take advantage of that aswell.
I always love free stuff.
Free stuff, say yes, we do needthat.
It's important.
We all need to pay bills, butat some point it becomes more
(26:14):
about your purpose, more aboutyour alignment with the divine,
with whatever that is for youand our contribution here in
this tiny little parentheses ineternity.
So thank you for your gifts,thank you for what you're're
sharing, and I can't wait to gointo part two.
Thank you so much, thank you.
Hello and welcome, dr Charnell.
I don't know if I'm saying thatright, but you'll correct me in
just a second.
Welcome to Quantum AlchemistMaster Podcast.
It's a pleasure to have youhere today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you so much.
Yes, that's how you say it, andI am so honored to be with you
guys, so thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thank you so much for being here.
So I'm very intrigued because Iwas browsing through your
website, your stuff, yourworkshops, everything you offer.
I'm like, hmm, I like this.
I'm very interested.
This sounds like somethingright up my alley, right up my
audience's alley as well.
(00:38):
So I really want to dive deeperinto, kind of like, your
journey.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You know, how you got to where you are today and
whatever you really feel likesharing with us yeah, I think,
like everybody, we come here andwe kind of forget why we're
here, what we're doing, and weare given the opportunities to
either, like, just go with theflow and be a default and create
(01:05):
kind of mishap, mishappenly, um, and or, as things happen, um,
or as things that we create showup and we're aware of them, um.
It gives us that ability to eat, to either choose something
different or um, and or createsomething different, or just
(01:30):
continue getting the samenegative patterns over and over
again.
And for me, um, I didn't evenrealize, and no one ever taught
me, that we actually do create.
You know, as, as creatures, weare creators and, um, I really
wish that someone had told mefrom the beginning you know, hey
(01:54):
, you are, you're doing all ofthis, this, this is you, um, and
.
But for whatever reason, Iwasn't told that, wasn't told
that wasn't my path until it was, and once I really got the idea
that everything so far up tothat point was my creation, I
(02:15):
was depressed, honestly, becauseI was like, oh my God, what did
I do all this for?
And like, how much time have Iwasted?
But also, the good news is,well, if I can make it that bad,
then I can actually createsomething really powerful and
wonderful as well, and I canreverse engineer it.
And now it's at all of ourfingertips for anyone who is
(02:40):
aware and awake.
And so some of the examples, tobe specific, I mean just
terrible partnership.
You know, choosing the worstguys ever, and you know, for my
relationships and or you knoweven occupations, you know I
(03:03):
always felt like I wanted to bein some type of service or
ministry and I settled, you know, for a lot of jobs, literally
jobs that were just notfulfilling and or supportive or
nourishing to my soul.
And you know, again, no one satdown and ever told me well, you
(03:27):
can do something different andyou can create something else.
You know whether it wassettling for partnership or
settling for purpose.
I think it was a learned habittoo, you know, and nothing
against my parents, parents, um,you know, they were only doing
what they were doing as well,but I had there was some learned
(03:49):
behaviors there,environmentally, I think that,
um, that just had me buy into iteven more, uh, but, yeah, um,
on the brink of death and havingmultiple, very like I just
would graduate from a worse guyto a worse guy, um, and then
(04:11):
even my purpose of just, youknow, settling working at a bank
or in retail or you know,things like that, which there
isn't anything against any ofthat, but it just wasn't my
highest, it wasn't oncesomething that I would like wake
up and feel alive about, um,and I just thought, well, you
know, this is what you got to do.
You know you have kids and youhave this and you have to make a
(04:33):
living, and so you just dowhatever you can, instead of
having the opportunity and orthe memory, like the memory of
oh, I can create something elseand do something completely
different, and and then createthose opportunities as well for
those things to happen, and andwell, not happen, but to create
it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So let's unwrap and unravel the onion slightly.
I love what you've said.
I myself feel very identifiedwith everything you've mentioned
.
I think a lot of us will whenthey listen to your episode.
So I was the same thing.
I've been in healthcare forover 10 years.
Kind of same vary thesatisfaction.
(05:19):
But I would love to learn howyou know how you made that shift
.
Love to learn how you know howyou made that shift, kind of
like how that change started toevolve in you, that spark that
said that nudge right, that yoursoul's like taps you and it's
like hey got to move.
This is so uncomfortable for me.
It was a lot of pain and a lotof like, just kind of like being
(05:40):
pinned against the wall andthen you're like man, this is
pretty bad, I don't want to keepbeing here.
You know, if this is it, Idon't like it.
I have to find another way.
There has to.
I think it's that turning pointwhere you say there has to be
another way.
At least that's how it was forme.
But I would love to learn yourparticular way, or maybe it was
(06:01):
something in your life thathappened.
A lot of times, when we'rethrough that dark night of the
soul, something huge happens.
Relationships fall apart, thejobs, the everything, um.
So I would just kind of love tolearn how your journey got
passed to like started to createwhat you're more aligned with
(06:21):
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For me all of those things were happening in every
avenue the health, the abusethat I allowed um, the, the
purpose I remember in my seekingum would just literally come
home from work.
I was living in a separatebedroom at the time, with, with,
(06:43):
with, I say partner, but thatisn't a true, accurate statement
.
The person that I was livingwith um because there was no
partnership.
Uh, 13 years in separate rooms,what a waste um.
But I came home one day and Imean this is after doing
(07:04):
anything possible that I knew atthe time, with the tools that I
had of you know, fasting,praying, meditating, you know,
just seeking.
And at one point I remembercoming home from work and I just
I had what you said.
I've had those words of like,there has to to be more like
there, there's got to besomething more.
(07:25):
And I remember I heard, I heardwithin me, lift up your hands
and I was like what the heck?
Like, what do you, what do youmean?
Lift up my hands.
And so I literally lifted up myhands.
I'm in my bedroom sitting on mybed, it's about eight something
, 830 ish, and all of a sudden Ifelt this extremely like, warm,
(07:48):
almost like a honey typefeeling, touch the tips of my
fingers and then started goingdown over my hands and my arms,
touched the top of my headcompletely, like enveloped me,
um, and to this day I don't 100%know what that was.
(08:13):
Um, I remember feeling immenselove.
I remember A lot of tears, Iguess like a relief, a release
of angst, fear, grief, and thenit just completely covered my
(08:36):
body and I remember seeing likea really, really really bright
light and I actually felt or sawa man, and this is the second
time that I had seen this manand I recognized him as Jesus or
Yeshua and and look, I'm not Idon't consider myself religious
(08:58):
at all, but that's, how did this?
I had a similar experience atfour years old, not exactly, but
I did see the guy and I didn'teven know who he was.
I didn't find out who he wasuntil second grade, and so this
is my second time to see thisguy and he just he literally
called me to sit on his lap,like I was a little kid, but I
(09:21):
was 20, something you know as a,an adult, and I I go sit on his
lap and he just starts likerocking me, holding me, and all
he kept saying was it's okay,it's okay, it's okay, it's okay,
just over and over, withoutsaying words.
It was just like in his mindand I could hear him and he's
(09:42):
rocking me and I remember thisbright, bright, bright light and
feeling like, oh my gosh, um,he's here, or somebody's here,
something's here in the room,and, um, I opened up my eyes and
because you know when you're,when my eyes were shut I don't
know if you've ever had youreyes shut and a bright light
comes, and you know, when you're, when my eyes were shut I don't
(10:04):
know if you've ever had youreyes shut and a bright light
comes and you know likesomething's in the room.
And so I opened my eyes to seewhat was in the room.
The whole room was lit up and Iwas like where is this light
coming from?
And I saw that it looked likeit was coming from outside.
So I went, stood up, went to thewindow by the way, my hands
were still in the air and I waslike, oh, and I put my hands
(10:28):
down, I go look outside thewindow because it looked like
this bright light is shininginside my window.
And I go look out and likeeverything's lit and the whole
outside and I'm thinking whatkind of light is making the
entire neighborhood be so bright?
And I'm so disoriented.
(10:48):
And I walk out of my room andthe house is all lit up and I
looked at the clock it was like8.32.
Maybe two or three minutes hadgone by and then it took me a
little bit.
But what I finally realized is12 hours of my life had passed
like in a second.
(11:09):
I just I had missing time andprobably the whole 12 hours had
my arms up being rocked by thisbeing of love.
Maybe that's what I requiredand honestly, after that point
(11:30):
things really started shiftingpretty fast for me.
It wasn't long after that wheremy partner at the time actually
changed the locks on the door.
When I came home from work oneday and I was kicked out, I
thought it was the worstpunishment ever and just thought
it was the end of my life.
But it was the best thing thatever happened, because then it
(11:53):
just started this ripple effectof all these other things that
looked really tough, really hardand really like the end of the
line, but really it was an opendoor to start a brand new life
that I wouldn't have done on myown.
Um, teachers started showing up.
That started, um, explainingthese things to me better and,
(12:17):
uh, giving me opportunities tohave a different perspective,
not just about life, love andhealth, but about my purpose,
about my mission here, andthere's been several things that
have happened since then.
I had these two beings thatshowed up not long after that
(12:37):
and they were very specific informulas and graphs and colors
and very, very specific things.
They were probably like 14 feettall.
In my living room this is maybea few months after that point,
um, and also continuing to justpray and seek and meditate and
(12:58):
fast, and and that's not alwaysthe way to get there, um, but
that was again what I knew atthe time.
It was like, okay, I don't knowwhat to do, so this is what I'm
going to do and, uh, and itseemed to work, you know, um,
but I ended up writingeverything down that these two
beings gave me this informationand they actually showed me how
(13:21):
to use the technology to create,how we are all already given
all these things, how we havethis biofield and the power of
what this biofield does and how,the power of what our cells and
our organs and our blood andour thoughts and our feelings
and what we talk about, andconscious language, and you know
, all these tools that we'regiven that really truly create
(13:46):
one way or the other, and we caneither create something really
beautiful and harmonious andamazing, and or we can just go a
long life thinking things arehappening to us and that we have
no control, which is absolutelynonsense.
Um, and so, yeah, I put it allin a book called the Science of
Miracles.
I wasn't planning on writing abook, but everyone kept asking
(14:10):
me, like you know, showing,wanting to know the graphs and
the and the pictures and reallywanting to change, because they
were seeing the change in me andthey were seeing, seeing what,
what the fruit of those thingswere, when I was taking action
with those things and they're.
And I'm like you know,everybody can do this, we can
(14:30):
all create, we can all do this,and so, yeah, and so I've been
teaching on this now, um, forquite a while I've.
I was teaching way before that,but my teaching has changed.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Beautiful.
I love that you mentioned yourteaching has changed.
That's beautiful because as ourjourney changes, we start to
share something different.
Are you able by any chance, ifyou feel comfortable, um showing
us maybe one of the graphics onthe book?
(15:04):
Um, for those that are watchingthe video, that may be curious.
Also, is it available onaudiobook or just um?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
yeah, yeah, I have it in audio.
I think it's on spotify, okay,cool, um, but yeah, I have, uh,
it's on my website as well, butthe the graphs, just I mean
there's several graphs.
They're terrible.
I'm not the best um no worries,but I didn't draw this one.
(15:34):
But this talk about energeticpurgatory, um, and how we can
create our own purgatory.
And you know, because thebiofield is, is usually what
I've tested so far most peopleare around four to five feet.
There are people who have waybigger fields.
(15:54):
Animals have bigger fields.
Horses are 350 and feet,dolphins are unmeasurable, dogs
and cats are pretty far, um, but, and and I have tested some
people like up to 20 feet butbut the average is around four
to five feet.
And what entails of that field,of our field, is what we're
(16:17):
thinking about.
What we're talking about, whatwe're feeling.
Our cells have their owngenerated radiation.
Our organs have their ownradiation.
Yeah, I mean, when I worked ina cardiac rehab, I remember the
surgeons would talk about theblue light that they would see
in the heart.
You know we are electric andit's called a biofield because
(16:40):
it's both radiating out you knowbio meaning to radiation but
also there's a magnet involvedand so there's this torrid of in
and out, in and out, in and out, and we all have this field.
Animals and plants have thefield.
The Earth actually has a fieldas a planet called the schumann
(17:03):
resonance, and there's afrequency involved and there's
there's polarity.
So, again, radiation, but alsothis magnet, and our thoughts
and our words and our heart allhave this radiation, and then
the magnet of the heart is huge.
It's like 500 times, 5,000times more in the magnet pool
(17:29):
than it is the radiation.
And so what we're feeling, ourdesires, are incredibly
important because we can bethinking about something really
positive and we can even betalking about something positive
, but if we have fear or doubt,then it puts negatives in the
equation.
(17:49):
So you can have some positives.
And here here's the picture, uh, just the one that is so
terrible, but like some of thegraphics that I was, oh, I love
that.
I see it, I see it this isterrible, stick people, but like
this is the heart, uh, in themiddle, and we have all these
positives and negatives.
(18:09):
You know what we're thinkingabout, what we're talking for
showing that a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm very visual, so maybe this for some people this
could could really help.
That's why I asked if you couldshare that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm actually pretty excited to read your book.
Um, it sounds like something Idefinitely want to dive deeper
into myself.
So tell me a little bit moreabout kind of like the work you
do, a little bit more in depth,if that's possible.
Like is this is the biofieldsomething that you work with?
Is the mapping something youwork with?
(18:39):
Like, could you explain to us alittle bit more?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, so I'm actually a naturopath by trade, but I
don't.
I mean, I do work as anaturopath and I and use my
intuition as well to to helppeople on a physical level, and
I usually end up getting thepeople who have like the
craziest mystery, mysteriousthings that people can't figure
(19:04):
out Doctors can figure out.
They come to me and I'm able tohelp identify what the root
issue is and to to reverseengineer that, and I work with
thousands of people to do that.
Um, but also I it's because Iwork on an energetic level with
the field, I find out what'sgoing on in the field and
because usually whatever's goingon in the body is what's going
(19:27):
to project in the field and what.
What we think about, what we'retalking about, what we're
feeling is what's going out,which is what's getting a match,
and we can only get what we are.
So, whether it's a health issueor, again, partnership or
abundance, maybe you've beenstuck not creating money or you
know, creating monies againstthe law, but and or abundance or
(19:49):
prosperity, when we um, youknow, if there's lack, that
could be a genetic thing that wewere born into, that we
incarnated into that somehow inthe code of what the field is,
and or it could be anenvironmental thing, like maybe
mom didn't have money, so wedon't have money.
There is a scientific experimentwhere they took a thousand
(20:11):
fleas and they put them in thisjar and fleas can jump like five
, six feet and they were alljust put in this little jar.
I can't remember the time, butwhen they opened the jar the
fleas wouldn't jump out anymore,they just stayed in.
And all the babies that thefleas wouldn't jump out anymore,
they just stayed in, and allthe babies that the fleas
birthed would not jump out, eventhough they could jump five,
(20:32):
six feet way out of the jar.
And so a lot of the geneticengineering that can be encoded
in our DNA or mitochondria isstill the memory of that and but
.
But this can all be cleared aswell, and so I'll work with
mapping so I can find the snagof what is, you know, maybe in
(20:53):
the consciousness of whatsomeone's thinking or believing,
or being alive and be alive,believe, and, or we find relief,
relive again, and and, orfinding whatever snag in
consciousness.
And another tool I use islistening.
I'll listen to what people aresaying.
I can usually, four or fiveminutes, find the snag of what,
(21:14):
why these things are happening,just by listening to what they
say, um, and a lot of this wasout of these experiences that
I've had and um, of just beinglike, aware now of like, oh,
this is what's going on withthis girl, this is what's in her
field, and being able to seewhat's in the field, and using
(21:34):
biofeedback to help a little bit, too, on things that I may not
even see but I could find withbiofeedback, with technology.
So I work one-on-one withpeople.
I have workshops on my websiteas well for people who may be
interested in like livercleanses or muscle tapping,
testing or mapping themselves,and and we do have a class
(21:59):
coming up too, where we we dolive demos, and so I'm right, on
the workshop, we're literallygetting miracles.
On the workshop.
I have an I am divinepartnership class that there was
about six engagements that camewithin weeks of that class, and
one of them happened during theclass, literally.
(22:20):
So it's fun and easy when wechoose for it to be fun and easy
.
It's fun and easy when wechoose for it to be fun and easy
, and I'm still blown away andexcited whenever I get people
reporting their miracles to me.
But this should be normal.
This is our inheritance, thisis how we create.
This is why we're here to loveand to create and to be these
(22:42):
creatures that create, and it isfun and easy when we choose for
it to be fun and easy.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I love that.
I think to me, if it's okaywith you, that kind of feels
like a good place to end, Iguess, our shorter episodes.
For those of you listening,we've just transitioned from
longer episodes to shorterepisodes, but if you sign up to
our newsletter, you'll be ableto get masterclasses, which
pretty much are the secondportion of this conversation,
(23:12):
and, if I'm not mistaken, we'regoing to be going into
self-sabotage.
Is that correct?
Yes, yeah, so that's a topicthat I know I'm very interested
to dive into, particularly, andas I understand that, is there a
workshop associated with thatcoming up as well?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, we have one coming up March 2nd I believe
and that'll be live andinteractive.
It's an hour and a half andit's only $22.22.
So not even a huge investment.
For an hour and a half that's apretty good deal, I think, but
we wanted people to be able toshow up and be there and
(23:50):
remember their path that'sbeautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All right, thank you, it has been an honor to have
you here.
Could you share with us wherepeople could find you?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
anything you want about um contact information,
and then we'll wrap it up yes,um, if you go to drshornelcom,
(24:21):
yes, if you go to Dr Shornelldot com, that's pretty much
where all my social media is.
I have a whole area section formy website right now because
it's brand new, but if you go toany of my social medias you'll
find it there.
I'm on Facebook, twitter, andthen I also have a podcast that
I've been doing since the late1900s.
That sounds so far, sounds soweird.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Tell me about that.
I didn't know.
You had a podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yes, dr Charnel, true TV.
I was actually on televisionfor about three years and then
we moved everything online.
Um, they took my channel down,um, a little bit ago and we had
to completely start over, so Ilost several decades of
information there.
But I'm backing everything upnow and I have everything on
(25:05):
YouTube and bit shoot and rumbleand all of that kind of stuff.
So, but, yeah, I definitelycheck that out and subscribe and
we have different membermeetings and things like that
Sounds like similar to whatyou're doing too.
So, yeah, and if you go to mynewsletter, if you go to my
website right now, I'm actuallygiving a free gift, a free class
on clearing trauma andunderstanding the body and
(25:28):
trauma.
So if you go to drshornelcom,there should be a pop up that
comes up and they'll say like,hey, free class, and if you give
me your email, I'll send it toyou free.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's very good.
A lot of good resources.
So hop on there and check itout.
I'll take advantage of that aswell.
I always love free stuff.
Free stuff, say yes, we do needthat.
It's important.
We all need to pay bills, butat some point it becomes more
(26:14):
about your purpose, more aboutyour alignment with the divine,
with whatever that is for youand our contribution here in
this tiny little parentheses ineternity.
So thank you for your gifts,thank you for what you're're
sharing, and I can't wait to gointo part two.
Thank you so much, thank you.
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