July 10, 2024 • 42 mins
Heceliza is a Reiki and Intuition Teacher and Breathwork and Sound Healer. After leaving her corporate job in fashion and advertising in NYC, she became a serial entrepreneur while living in countries such as Bali, Mexico, and Costa Rica, connecting with the land, culture, and traditions of the people, learning other healing modalities to use in her practice along the way. She loves guiding generational cycle breakers to connect deeply with their energy and intuition to achieve inner peace, balance, and clarity. Through her intuitive guidance, she empowers others to release what no longer serves them, embrace the unknown with confidence, and embody their most empowered and authentic selves.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
welcome jesalisa to quantum alchemist master podcast
.
A pleasure to have you.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
good.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Thank you, rosalia, for having me doing good, I'm
sure I would actually love todig in a little bit into your
own hero's journey, um, and heara little bit about um, how you
got to where you are today.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
So I think this will would goback to.
I was you know how many sevenyears, eight years ago, living
in New York city, maybe livingthere for five years.
That was my dream.
I'm born and raised a Cali girl, california, but moved to New
York in my early right, when Iturned 30, actually to work in
(00:45):
fashion corporate fashion, didthat.
So I was working in fashion andadvertising New York City.
That was my dream.
And then a few years into it,it was the.
I had this epiphany moment, Iguess, in a big meeting, that
what I thought I cared aboutbefore didn't matter to me
(01:06):
anymore.
I wasn't helping the world.
One fashion handbag at a time,you know, and like the amount of
influencers or how manyfollowers this model had, or
that you know.
I thought that was excitingbefore and it just, you know, I
lived it, did it and it wasn't.
And my partner and I then alsostarted to travel a lot more.
(01:31):
But he was an entrepreneur sohe could always, at the drop of
a dime, be like let's go here,the flights are cheap, and I'm
like I have 20 days ofdesignated you know vacation
time, of designated vacationtime, so I have to be picky.
So it was kind of.
After that realization too, Iwas just like how can I be
(01:53):
anywhere in the world, wake upand just do work from my laptop?
So that was the first start intothis serial entrepreneurship
journey of where and living inplaces like Europe and around
Asia brought us to reallyfinding a second home in our
heart in Bali, and so we startedto spend a few months every
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year in Bali.
Like the first was five days.
That was our intro.
Our friend was living there andyou know I didn't really know
much of Bali back then.
I thought it was just a placefor people to go on their
honeymoon.
I really didn't know the bigwellness yoga community because,
also, being in New York, Iwasn't you wouldn't catch me
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meditating for anything like 10years ago.
You know I'm like fast paced,living on my adrenaline, not
realizing I needed things likethat to help reset my nervous
system.
But so we went for five days toBali.
The next year we came back fortwo months.
The following year we came backfor six months, so, and we
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really saw that there was backthen really a growing digital
nomad community, so a lot ofpeople working online, whether
what any online type of business.
And then through that I wasstarting to go to all these
workshops, classes that weren'tjust yoga, which back then for
me I thought of it as more of aphysical exercise, but I started
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to explore breathwork classes,meditation classes, and through
breathwork and sound baths Ijust really would get
vibrationally it's raising yourvibration but afterward I would
just be so be shaking.
And this was in my first verse,you know, when I was starting
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to get into all of thesemodalities, and it was in a
breathwork workshop wheresomebody came and placed their
hands on me and my nervoussystem instantly just like
calmed down and I was like, whatdid you do to me?
And they're like we were givingyou Reiki do to me, and they're
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like we were giving you reiki.
And so I'm like, if I can learna hands-on technique where I
can just calm my nervous systemdown anytime, I wanted to sign
me up, I want to learn and thatwas kind of my first
introduction into learning anenergy healing modality.
That and it was purely just formy own I guess selfish reasons
then, just to really work withon myself own.
(04:28):
I guess selfish reasons then,just to really work on myself
and self-soothe, just tap in andalso, coming from being in New
York and like just working inand living in my masculine for
so long and in a high adrenalstate, I didn't realize how
disconnected I was from my body,my feelings, how disconnected I
was from my body, my feelings,my intuition, and so really this
, the start of this Reikijourney, and now, over the years
(04:51):
, I've really, you know, tappedin.
I'm so in tune with myself, theconsciousness around me,
everything that we've forwardall the way to today, where now
I'm a Reiki teacher and I'mactually a breathwork
facilitator.
So that is something recentwhere I realized my, you know,
(05:11):
introduction into all of thiswas this three hour long
breathwork workshop andsomething where I realized, oh,
it came full circle.
Finding the right teachers atthe right time where breathwork
and then teaching other peoplehow to be their own healer, be
their own, you know, they aretheir own medicine.
That's really important to meto put that empowerment into
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other people's hands, versusrelying on other people to help
them heal.
Today of now, this year, reallypushing forward with teaching,
you know, launching a program tohelp guide other people to
strengthen their own healingabilities and their intuition.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, we're gonna dissect everything that you're
sharing with us, but to kind ofgo with the whole thread of
everything, why don't you goahead and tell us a little bit
about that program?
What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So the program kicks off because, first and foremost,
I am a Reiki teacher.
So it kicks off with a, let'ssay, Reiki level one and
typically, if you look for itonline, a Reiki level one, you
can learn it in one weekend.
And so, yes, I think that'sgreat, but I think I wanted to,
(06:29):
you know, help deepen otherpeople's practice.
Cause when I learned Reiki itwas like here, here's this, your
, your hands are attuned, now goand practice on your own and
figure it, kind of figure it,you know, you just kind of left
on your own.
So I just think, um, you know,I want to make a program
available for those that maybewant to meet weekly also with
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other students that are in thejourney themselves, because I
think when I first started on myenergy, energy healing practice
, that was like my deep diveinto personal growth, my
spiritual journey journey too.
And as you do that, you realizethe people that you've known
for a long time or maybe friendsfrom your twenties, your
thirties, coworkers even are notin the same, you know headspace
(07:17):
and you would like to be onthis journey with other liked
minded individuals.
So I think people also startingat the same capacity, same
level, is nice to have you know,a cohort together and then just
taking them through weekly onother tools and practices to add
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on to their Reiki learning.
So whether that's also anythingthat deals with helping them to
work with their own energytapping in.
So we do a lot of ancestral work, tapping into that, even a
little touch on human design,because for those people that
have heard of human design, it'sreally working with your
energetic blueprint how to bestuse your energy.
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Because we're all not you knowthe same, yet we were
conditioned.
Maybe you're conditioned andtaught.
You know, and your parentsmaybe treated you the same as
your brother or sister orcousins or your caretakers or
the school, when we're all verydifferent, unique individuals.
That intuition, practice, right, Having classmates to practice
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that, with a little moreguidance on exercises and ways
you can enhance and strengthenthat muscle Sounds very cool.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I really love that support like handheld along the
way, especially for the newbies.
How many weeks is that?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's 12 weeks, so it's about it's a three month
program.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Beautiful.
I feel like that's a goodenough time where you feel like,
okay, I'm ready to go on my own.
That's beautiful and I reallylove.
You know what?
I haven't heard anybody who'soffering something like that in
the Reiki space not to myknowledge.
So that's really cool.
I love how we can get all thetools that have been useful to
us along the way and and make itbetter or enhance it or, you
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know, put our, our ownuniqueness into it.
So I love that.
That's very beautiful.
Tell me more in regards tobreathwork.
Do you do any events online,locally, like?
Is breathwork something thatyou're still a big part of?
Are you mostly focusing on,like the reiki and this course
coming up now, or?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
breathwork is something I really you know,
even a decade ago when Idiscovered it.
I have intentions to bring itto my own community.
So I'm based here in long beachright now.
That's kind of where my homebase is in the States, and so
when I moved here, I was gettingto really immerse myself in the
community and partner withstudios.
(09:50):
There's this cool tea sanctuaryI partnered with I'm
Filipino-American aFilipino-American or Filipino
community center, and so doingholding, try to partner with
them and hold at least once amonth something local where it
is an introduction to breathwork, people can experience it.
It's a lower ticket item, it'sjust something for the community
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as well, as I try to do someonline.
But I'm also focused onbringing breathwork or guided
meditations to small to mediumto corporate size businesses, so
bringing wellness into theworkplace too.
Coming from corporate, I get itas a and I get it from a
business owner standpoint too,or a manager, in the space of
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how, if we can have companies,management teams, support people
in their company with wellness,especially people in leadership
roles, how it can be sobeneficial to decision-making,
to just relieving from stress,to even then turning into
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helping them in their personallives, clearing things, clearing
that muck the emotions, theenergy out.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I love that and I actually feel the same way when
it comes to.
I'm not sure if you had achance to read a little bit
about my bio, but I'm also abreathwork facilitator and
awesome.
So I come from a nursingbackground for 10 years, so
that's where I take a lot oflike we have rehab places,
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attorneys we work with and justlike that corporate aspect,
taking in breathwork into thecorporate space and wow, I mean
I feel like that is such an areawhere we can really grow and
expand and make a positiveimpact on if we had more reach.
(11:44):
I was thinking, brainstormingabout sorry about that about
getting a nonprofit to try tosee if we can get this into
prisons, into mental healthfacilities, like in places where
it's so much needed, you know.
So I'm working on that.
(12:06):
It's a work in progress, but itis a dream of mine to get it
where, because it saved my life,you know, and I feel like it
has helped so many of us whilewe've been through a challenge
and I'll ask you just a littlebit about a challenge that maybe
you can share, um witheverybody.
Uh, cause we've all been thereand life is cycles, is death and
rebirth, is, is ups and downs.
(12:27):
Um, it's a spiral where we'renot exempt even if we've been
doing the work forever, um, fromany challenges or emotions or
anything at all.
We just have tools, have toolsthat can help us surf the wave a
little bit better.
Right, at least that's myperspective on it.
So, yeah, yeah, I would love toI resonate a lot with that,
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with taking it into theworkplace and taking it into
spaces where it's not as common.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You have to keep me in touch with Toasted on that
Well it'll be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Trust me God knows what's happening so it's
orchestrating everything andit'll happen just as it needs to
be.
In regards to a challenge, Ialways like to kind of touch
into any particular challengethat maybe you want to share,
whether it's your ownentrepreneurial journey, or it's
your own personal spiritualawakening or whatever it is that
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you want to share a challengingmoment in your life and like
how you overcame it, or justlike a little synopsis or story
on it that can maybe motivateand help other people.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, you talk about.
You know the timing, whetherit's's god, the universe, always
having divine timing for us.
As a serial entrepreneur, whenI left new york I didn't go
straight into healing, you know,that was something just I was
finding, whether it's amazonhaving products on amazon, I've
created my own other productsand putting that out.
(13:59):
And then it was only until lastyear where I decided to really
step into my gifts and purposeand full time put my efforts
into this, versus it being aside by word of mouth.
But that I spent, I think, alllast year in my own feels, my
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limiting beliefs, in my ownblocks of realizing.
I mean, I can tell anybody andI've done so many businesses
where I had an idea and it wasproduct-based, I created that.
I can take it from concept togetting it manufactured, product
packaging, put it in on market.
But when it becomes you andthis is like really what I
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believe, why I'm here and apurpose to really help humanity,
and I get excited to wake upand start work.
I don't get the Sunday scariesbecause I'm excited for Monday.
I'm working on Sunday andMonday to roll around to like
figure out you know what othercreations can come out of this
business, but I didn't realizehow hard it would be like, how
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much I would still have toreflect on all these limiting
beliefs I had and it turned veryI'm not going to say dark, but
it's really.
I had to dig deep inside of meto you know how do I keep going?
I was one social media and I amnot.
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I'm like, oh, I have to get onmy social media, I have to be
seen.
I was so used to not wanting tobe seen.
I still am not.
If you kind of look at myInstagram, I try to do it in
ways where it's talking to thecamera and that's just.
You know how I wanted to do it,but I realized that that caused
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me to not want to be seen, toplay small and dig.
Why was this happening?
And therefore it wasn't helpingme grow my business.
It wasn't helping me.
You know, I'm trying to scalenow and because, being the
healer I am and I'm a doubleScorpio, so I'm very I didn't
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realize sudden rising.
My whole life is birth, death,rebirth, transformation, rise
from the ashes, phoenix, andit's over and over and over
again, until when I think, oh,I've worked on this, I've come
so far.
Here's another thing and I, oh,I've worked on this, I've come
so far.
Here's another thing and I gointo so with through breathwork,
I really went in and askedmyself where is this all coming
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from?
Why am I like, where is this?
Where?
How am I holding myself backwith not wanting to like go big
with the business, be seen andshown out there, and I was like
I went back into it and realizedthere were these incidences
from my childhood that um,stemmed from, like my mother's
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line, so it went from likethings my grandmother would say,
or you know, like, say to me, Imean it, it sounds so light.
Other people have, like thesedeep suited hardships and
traumas but you know, we don'trealize like just one little
thing you can say to a four yearold kid can actually create
something that lasts them intoadulthood.
And so, facing the realizationthat I like have held on this
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hatred towards my grandmother,you know, up until just last
year and that's trickled into,even facing like these mother
wounds I hold on to my mom and Ifound out it's actually very
ancestral and karmic on that inthat side, um, um, having to
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work through that and forgiveand let it not be a hiccup, was
actually a big challenge I hadto overcome last year and still
this year was working on it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
so I feel like this podcast is about to take a turn,
because you, yeah, so this Imean.
I love to shine light in ourgifts and what we have to offer,
because it's an energy exchange.
We have to feed our family,feed ourselves, and you know the
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impact we're making with theworld.
There's reciprocity in whatwe're doing, right.
But speaking of this is wherethe work is.
Okay, it's not rainbows andsunshines, there are moments,
but this is where the work is.
I feel like most people that areawakening.
You know they're the ones intheir generation, in their
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family, whether it's on the.
You know they're the ones intheir generation, in their
family, whether it's on thefather's side, mother's side,
the ones that are taking what Icall radical responsibility.
And responsibility I also breakthat into two response and
ability.
Our ability to respond to life,okay, to what happens to us, to
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the space in where we're born,our subconscious mind.
That's 95% operating.
We operate 95% out of oursubconscious mind and only 5%
conscious mind.
So imagine all the stuff youheard from your grandma, from
your mom.
All of that stuff is in yoursubconscious mind.
You are not conscious thatyou're being guided by that old
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system.
So we have to reprogram that.
It's no longer helping us.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
We honor you.
I would never want todisrespect.
If it wasn't for them, you know, we wouldn't have this
opportunity because it is a gift, um, you know, that's been
passed down, passed down andjust hasn't been able to to
really transform that gift rightand and transcend into the next
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, into the next step for thatlineage.
Um, so I feel the fact thatyou're like okay, enough of this
, you know where is this comingfrom.
You went all the way withoutcounting, like past life,
parallel lives and a bunch ofother stuff, just to keep it
real simple, right, but you'relike okay, let me go to the root
.
That's that's beautiful thatyou did that, because I feel
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like you're not operating and alot of us are not operating
anymore.
We're tired of operating fromthe victimhood.
We're like we're more taking onthat, that hero journey and
taking charge and takingresponsibility, and be like no,
you know, and, and we, we see it, we see how our mothers ended
up, how our grandmothers endedup is like okay, do I want to
repeat that same pattern or do Iwant things to be different in
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my case?
Um, and it's not to judge thembecause they are beautiful and
perfect.
That's their soul journey andthat's their soul, you know, um,
evolution and their own way, um, but just to to see them as
teachers like okay, what do Iwant to take and not take from
this and what do I want tochange?
So I feel like what you've justtouched on and for a lot of us I
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don't know in the Filipinoculture how it is, but a lot of
us it's limiting beliefs andscarcity around everything, like
literally everything.
Like the toothpaste, they wouldscrub the last little piece out
, like like the smallest thingsyou could imagine.
So, going into that because Ilike to bring humor and play
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into this a little bit would youshare with us a little funny
thing that either your grandmaor your mom would do?
That's just a little bit oflike, maybe in luck, or you
don't see it the same way, orit's just like, okay, you know,
I don't want to do that with mykids, or I want to keep doing
that myself, or like justsomething weird.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I know, and so that's why I talk about, because I do
work with what I call firstgeneration cycle breakers and as
a and you know I didn't want tosay more of kids of immigrants
because it could be other youknow second, third generation,
but I am a kid of an immigrantand, like you, it I feel like
with immigrants it's that blackmentality, because they came
here with very little and theydon't want to lose anything that
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they've worked so hard for.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But, um, so just think of some any story, but
with you know, maybe somethingyour grandma used to say all the
time that we kept hearing itand it's just like you know.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I don't want to change that well, it's more of a
response of like I don't knowif this is with, maybe,
culturally, with where she is,is um, just well, here cause,
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because for the consciousparents parenting consciously
out there, right, but that's notwhat I heard in the household.
So it's any little thing frommy grandma that we do wrong, we
would get yelled at so hard thatyou know, or if we didn't
address her properly and we justsaid yeah, yes, yes, what?
Yes, grandma, you know, it justbecame this thing.
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But it was just that whereyou're on eggshells one day, but
then with her it's like that,and then she would turn and
start like laughing the nextmoment.
So we didn't know if she waslike angry or just not really
poking fun or challenging us,but it became this thing.
But it is with that high, um, Ibecame very, I think like maybe
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that's where the perfectionismcame in.
You don't want to do anythingwrong, you want to just like,
keep things up, not get yelledat, right, you don't want to
rock the boat.
But then I don't know if thatwas also keeping us being
perfect and proper, so that wewouldn't disrupt when we left
the house, that we wouldn'tdisrupt the Western society, and
we just like don't bringattention to yourself, keep the
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peace and you don't want to getin trouble at school, because
then we don't want our family tolook like we raised somebody
that would cause any anything.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I don't we need to turn this to a humorous way, but
it's just kind of no, no, thatis hilarious.
I'll say that to me now inretrospect.
Of course, when you're living,it's a little bit different.
Right, you take it to the heart, but let's, let's go deeper
into that, because I feel, firstof all, I haven't had an
episode where we go so deep intothis subject and I feel that
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it's necessary.
I feel like God guided us rightwhere we need to go with the
podcast.
That's how I feel in regards tothis.
So a lot of the times, a lot ofthe introspection that I do
with my life is okay.
Where and how am I doing thatin my life currently?
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Because I'm replaying that someway somehow.
Am I playing small?
Do I not want to be seen?
Do I not want to be heard?
Do I not want to speak up?
Do I want to keep you know?
Whatever, whatever it is, youknow that we're recreating the
samereating, the same thing,same limitations, in a different
scenario in our life and we'relike no, I'm nothing like my
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grandma.
Yeah, we are, so you have tosee how we can change it, and
that's I love that.
I love to ask myself, like okay, I'm constantly questioning
everything, like okay andrelationship to that, and I want
to touch on forgiveness becauseI'm going to tell you it
happened to me with my dad, justlike, like, like that he I
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don't think we agree on almostanything of his view of the
world or his way of treatingwomen, or just almost nothing.
And it's perfect because he'sbeen a great teacher and for a
lot of stuff for me.
But just understanding, like,also like your grandma was a
mirror for me they're doing itout of love.
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They don't know that they'rethat's.
You know they're carrying allof the stuff from.
They don't know that they'rethat's.
You know they're carrying allof this stuff from their
childhood, from their parents,blah, blah, blah, and they're
carrying it onto you withoutever having a chance to heal it.
Maybe they they never had achance to heal it Cause, like my
dad was always working like, upto like late hours and a lot of
jobs, like he would never evenconsider meditating.
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He's like, who has time forthat?
I have to work, you have towork until you die.
So you see the mentality.
So I'm really grateful to havethe opportunity to be.
You know that they did all thatsacrifice for me to be able to
do some breath work, do somemeditation and be able to have
the time to look at that.
Um, luckily, we've been doing alot of work in the family where
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we've been able to practiceforgiveness with each other,
which, at the core core, nobodyhas to forgive anyone and there
is really no judgment, infinitelove.
But from this perspective itseems that way and helps the
relationships to come closer.
So I want to ask you if it'snot too personal.
How was that forgivenessprocess for you and your grandma
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and your mom and stuff likethat?
Is there anything you wanted?
It was maybe something personalyou went through to get to that
point, because I feel like whenwe hold resentment for 10 years
, 15 years, we're only drinkingthat poison ourselves.
It's not helping us.
It's really not.
So I would like to ask you howwas that forgiveness part for
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you?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, I will say it's still an ongoing process, very
much so it I didn't even realizehow deep rooted I needed it was
with my grandmother untilrecently.
But with my mother I can't evenknow.
I don't even know if it's aforgiveness thing, but at peace,
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more like, because knowing Idid do a lot of different works
with my relationship with her,but I still notice when I see
her in person I have flinches,like physical flinches of and
maybe what daughter doesn'ttowards their mother, of
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irritation, and it's really isjust this, finding that
unconditional love in my heartand everything I do.
And I say this to people love.
Once I understood the energy oflove and it is rooted in every
action I do I can understandthat she came and she did the
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best she could and she did thebest she could, she wanted the
best and, like you were saying,it was all out of love.
But that is just the way theyknew how.
And different generation,different times, where we in
this generation have thesepractices now where we can
self-reflect and we have thattime, or some of us make that
time and some of us make it partof our profession or who we are
(28:31):
.
Time some of us make it part ofour profession or who we are,
and that, because you know Idon't want it stops here, right?
I don't want to be like that tothe next generation, to my
future children.
So, yeah, that's an ongoingprocess.
With the forgiveness it's moreof a finding peace and, just you
know, filling myself with lovewhen I see them and with that
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then I can't hold on to anyresentment, anger, but it is,
it's, it's how you know how manydecades and years of my life
that I've held onto it.
So, like, easier said than done.
It can't for me, maybe for a lotof things can't just happen in
one breath work, practice,that's why we breathe, like as
(29:15):
practitioners.
Some of us breathe daily, youknow, and then it's uncovering
another block of limiting beliefand stemming it back to a
different altercationconversation your mother or
grandmother had with you andthen healing that.
So I will say this forgivenessthing is is, I'm constantly
(29:35):
working at it and my grandmotherI don't see her.
She's in the Philippines now.
I mean, she was with me upuntil, like maybe high school
and then she moved back to thePhilippines.
So I don't have that muchcontact with her.
But I think it's just forgiving.
Did a lot of work to forgivethat moment in time to the like
(29:56):
five-year-old self, where anincident occurred and then, as I
was younger, you know so.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I want to make a point.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I mean I, when you said your family is working with
forgiveness and all that.
I am like that is amazing,because I don't hear that a lot
working with forgiveness and allthat.
I am like that is amazing,cause I don't hear that a lot
and I can't say you know, thatis something I really need to
really still take some time to.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'll give you, uh, an idea.
You don't have to, but I didand it went well.
Uh, I guess it's a case by casespace, um, depending on you
know how much trauma and stuffhas has happened.
Um, I'll give you two ideas.
One that you may know of,because you already do energy
work, so you can just connectwith the higher self of that
(30:42):
person, whether the person haspassed or the person's still
alive, and have thatconversation.
If you just don't want to haveit right now in person, or just
can't have it in person, andthat's really great.
I mean, it feels wonderful foryou.
It just it's, it's amazing andit's funny, because their higher
self will answer back.
So you're going to get a lot ofwonderful information when it
(31:06):
comes to that.
That's a cool exercise.
Another thing that I did with mydad I wrote him a letter, um,
and he and I asked him hey, youknow, do you want to participate
in this exercise?
I was thinking of writing you aletter and if you want, you can
write me a letter.
You don't have to.
Whatever we sell, like my momheard of it, my mom was the
(31:29):
first one to write the letter.
Uh, I was thinking of doing itjust with him, but she wanted to
participate as well, so I saidokay.
So we all wrote a letter toeach one.
I was so surprised.
My dad ended up writing sevenpages and I literally wrote like
one page Like I didn't think itwould see.
So it really surprised mebecause he said stuff that he
(31:51):
had never said to me ever before, like I had no idea that was
his thought process, so it gaveme a lot of his perspective.
So forgiveness is ongoing aswell as regulating our nervous
system.
Just because we'repractitioners of breath work or
meditation or Reiki or XYZwhatever it is that we're doing,
(32:12):
this is part of our dailypractice.
This is our work.
So it's not a lot of peoplecome in to work with us and
probably want to get fixed inone visit, three visits, but
it's an ongoing practice, youknow.
So yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, you can only take people as far as we've gone
.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I agree, beautiful.
Is there anything else that youwant to share with us today,
that you feel called to share?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I was just going to say if no one's ever tried
breath work, whether it's withyou or myself, please, please do
it.
Aside from tapping into, youknow your body, your breath
connecting there.
But it's for me I tell theother people who need
psychedelics or plant medicine,when you have breath work, the
(33:15):
shamanic things that have comethrough lately in my practice,
the ancestral medicine andwisdom that's come through and
all the things, it's just fun.
I say it's fun when I get outof it.
It's just, it's a trip, it'sfun.
So I really hope people youknow know, try at least once and
see where they can tap into allthat beauty and love that's
(33:41):
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I'll say this every breathwork um is completely
different.
So, whether you do it with meor with her, or with xyz, every
not only is every facilitatordifferent, but even with that
same facilitator, every eventyou attend is going to be
different, and everybreakthrough and every download
and everything is going tochange Um.
(34:02):
So I highly invite you to openyour heart.
I feel like breath work is alot of like the preventive
medicine, um, like reallyexercising and meditating and
including breath work.
All of that is a lot of likepreventative medicine, in my
opinion, before we go into afull blown anything, right,
(34:26):
because a lot of the stuff thatare in our subconscious mind, a
lot of the trauma that's storedin our body, that we haven't
processed, that we've beenrepressing and putting under the
rug for so long, that's goingto come out somewhere, either
autoimmune disease, or it'sgoing to come out in any.
It's going to manifestphysically somewhere, somehow.
I don't want to give guarantees, but oh my God, there's a high
(34:48):
probability that's going tohappen.
Okay, so really using thesepractices for that there,
there's so much that breathworkcan do for you.
Uh, we're not going to go intothat, but I always like to to
leave people with with somethingpractical that they can use.
So I'll share with them abreathwork sequence that they
can practice.
If you want to share anything,whether it's breathwork related
(35:10):
or not like maybe it could benuggets of wisdom or whatever,
or a little trick, or whateveryou want to share I'll share
with you two breathworksequences to help you relax and
come into your parasympatheticnervous system, relax and digest
state.
You can do this at any time.
This is not an activatingbreath.
(35:32):
Okay, I just want to point thatout.
It is not for the sympathetic.
So usually if you're druggy inthe morning, you don't have a
lot of energy.
This is probably not one ofthem.
But if you're anxious or youwant to relax before you go to
bed, this is a good sequence foryou.
You're going to do inhale andexhales through the nose and you
can do a four six count inhalethrough the nose to a count of
(35:53):
four, exhale to a count of six.
Or you can inhale through thenose to a count of four and
exhale to a count of eight.
If you see what I'm doing ismaking the exhale longer, okay.
So this is going to get you torelax, into a parasympathetic,
relaxed state.
Okay For you to go to bed orfor you to relax.
You're really anxious.
You can do that.
Or you can do the 4-4-4, whichis the most common that
(36:16):
everybody knows.
You inhale through the nose toa count of four.
You hold at the top for four,you exhale for four and hold at
the bottom for four.
Okay, so I hope that serves you.
Those are three quick sequencesthat you could do at any time
to come back to center and relax.
One last one that I think mightreally be good.
It's going to be the BromaryHumming Bee Breath, because
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that's going to activate yourvagus nerve, so that's really
going to relax you.
So it looks and sounds likethis You're going to breathe in
through the nose and you'regoing to exhale through the nose
, but while on the exhale you'regoing to make a humming sound.
So it's to make a humming sound, so it's, and that humming, I
like to really extend it untilI'm out of air.
So you could try that and seeif that works for you.
(37:03):
Okay, so I hope that washelpful.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Is there anything you want to share with our audience
?
I love that, yes, well, I meanwhat was coming through to me is
, since you've already tappedinto the breathwork part, back
to, like, you know, tapping intoyour heart and trusting
yourself, trusting that innerwisdom within you practice, you
know, you can do to just reallystrengthen your intuition or
feel into how you're feelingthat day.
Or if you want any messages,you know and you're like, what
(37:27):
are people talking about?
Getting downloads and messages.
It's all within you.
So all you have to do is like,keep your heart open, stay quiet
, so you can just, you know,first thing in the morning or in
midday, if you just need alittle like guidance or just
want to quiet your mind, justclose your eyes, you know, take
a deep breath in and imagineopening your heart up and exhale
(37:49):
, and then just ask somethingand exhale and then just ask
something.
Ask whether it's a question youhave, or just ask, hey, my
ancestors, any guides, ourguardian angels, they're all
just waiting on the sidelines.
Just breathe into your heartand say, like masking my
ancestors, what's the next movedo I need to make to make this
(38:12):
XYZ goal happen?
And so to breathe and let go ofthe chatter in your mind, open
your heart and just listen orvisualize however you best, or,
if you need to write down whatpops through, and just don't
second guess it, trust it.
And the more you continue to dothat, guess it, trust it.
(38:36):
And the more you continue to dothat, the more you will like
strengthen that trust withinyourself, within to your guides,
your ancestors it's all thesame angels, guides, ancestors I
.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think your next course is going to be connecting
with your guides.
You just gave a mini course onhow to connect with your guides.
Yeah, your guides, your higherself, all of it.
Yeah, your guides, your higherself, all of it.
Source everything is within you.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's the truth and it is.
If you start doing thatpractice, as I started doing it,
and like writing and channelingit down, I'm like they're
pretty harsh they will tell youhow it is and it is the truth.
You need to hear so it's.
And no, you know, no one elsecan tell you that.
No advice from anybody else.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's absolutely beautiful there.
What I always say is there aremany roads, or all roads lead to
Rome, like that saying.
And then Rome, to me, is source.
So there are many ways.
Whether it's breathwork,meditation, any type of energy
work, it doesn't matter, they'reall going to take, they're all
should take you.
Whether it's plant work,meditation, any type of energy
work, it doesn't matter, they'reall going to take, they're all
(39:35):
should take you.
Whether it's plant medicine,whatever, to connect with your
heart, and that's that holds thekey.
That is the entry point.
Blue pill, red pill Are yougoing to take it?
What are you going to do?
And that's where.
That's where the magic pillthat everyone's looking for.
It's in the heart connection,in that's where.
(39:59):
That's where the magic pillthat everyone's looking for,
it's in the heart connection, inthe heart.
That's it.
I think you don't have to getany pills.
I.
I think that's beautiful to endit with that.
Okay, love is the answer.
Go within.
Uh, you know, it's all in yourheart.
As cliche as it is.
That is what it is yeah, it iswhat it is.
We can't deny it.
Once you've seen it, you cannotunsee it.
So this is what we have toshare with you.
I hope that it was really,really helpful.
(40:19):
I feel that you can all reallyfeel how authentically we're
sharing, that we really want tohelp you guys and want to share
with you what has worked for usby doing it through our soul,
aligned business.
And that's what really share, Imean fills our heart, to share
with everybody and help as manypeople as possible.
(40:42):
We've been in your shoes, we'vewalked your road.
That's you know.
That's why we're sharing it.
We know what it like in theflesh, what it feels like, so I
hope it serves everybody.
It has been an honor.
I love you.
Guys, go check her out.
Could you share with us yourInstagram or your website or
(41:03):
whatever, wherever you want themto go and check you out?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
My website is myfirstnamecom, so Hesalizacom,
and I'm most frequently onInstagram, so it's at Hesaliza.
Underscore energy healing.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Awesome and we're gonna leave it in the
description for you guys tocheck it out and just be a click
away from that.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Thank you, thank you.
welcome jesalisa to quantum alchemist master podcast
.
A pleasure to have you.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
good.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Thank you, rosalia, for having me doing good, I'm
sure I would actually love todig in a little bit into your
own hero's journey, um, and heara little bit about um, how you
got to where you are today.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
So I think this will would goback to.
I was you know how many sevenyears, eight years ago, living
in New York city, maybe livingthere for five years.
That was my dream.
I'm born and raised a Cali girl, california, but moved to New
York in my early right, when Iturned 30, actually to work in
(00:45):
fashion corporate fashion, didthat.
So I was working in fashion andadvertising New York City.
That was my dream.
And then a few years into it,it was the.
I had this epiphany moment, Iguess, in a big meeting, that
what I thought I cared aboutbefore didn't matter to me
(01:06):
anymore.
I wasn't helping the world.
One fashion handbag at a time,you know, and like the amount of
influencers or how manyfollowers this model had, or
that you know.
I thought that was excitingbefore and it just, you know, I
lived it, did it and it wasn't.
And my partner and I then alsostarted to travel a lot more.
(01:31):
But he was an entrepreneur sohe could always, at the drop of
a dime, be like let's go here,the flights are cheap, and I'm
like I have 20 days ofdesignated you know vacation
time, of designated vacationtime, so I have to be picky.
So it was kind of.
After that realization too, Iwas just like how can I be
(01:53):
anywhere in the world, wake upand just do work from my laptop?
So that was the first start intothis serial entrepreneurship
journey of where and living inplaces like Europe and around
Asia brought us to reallyfinding a second home in our
heart in Bali, and so we startedto spend a few months every
(02:16):
year in Bali.
Like the first was five days.
That was our intro.
Our friend was living there andyou know I didn't really know
much of Bali back then.
I thought it was just a placefor people to go on their
honeymoon.
I really didn't know the bigwellness yoga community because,
also, being in New York, Iwasn't you wouldn't catch me
(02:37):
meditating for anything like 10years ago.
You know I'm like fast paced,living on my adrenaline, not
realizing I needed things likethat to help reset my nervous
system.
But so we went for five days toBali.
The next year we came back fortwo months.
The following year we came backfor six months, so, and we
(02:58):
really saw that there was backthen really a growing digital
nomad community, so a lot ofpeople working online, whether
what any online type of business.
And then through that I wasstarting to go to all these
workshops, classes that weren'tjust yoga, which back then for
me I thought of it as more of aphysical exercise, but I started
(03:23):
to explore breathwork classes,meditation classes, and through
breathwork and sound baths Ijust really would get
vibrationally it's raising yourvibration but afterward I would
just be so be shaking.
And this was in my first verse,you know, when I was starting
(03:45):
to get into all of thesemodalities, and it was in a
breathwork workshop wheresomebody came and placed their
hands on me and my nervoussystem instantly just like
calmed down and I was like, whatdid you do to me?
And they're like we were givingyou Reiki do to me, and they're
(04:05):
like we were giving you reiki.
And so I'm like, if I can learna hands-on technique where I
can just calm my nervous systemdown anytime, I wanted to sign
me up, I want to learn and thatwas kind of my first
introduction into learning anenergy healing modality.
That and it was purely just formy own I guess selfish reasons
then, just to really work withon myself own.
(04:28):
I guess selfish reasons then,just to really work on myself
and self-soothe, just tap in andalso, coming from being in New
York and like just working inand living in my masculine for
so long and in a high adrenalstate, I didn't realize how
disconnected I was from my body,my feelings, how disconnected I
was from my body, my feelings,my intuition, and so really this
, the start of this Reikijourney, and now, over the years
(04:51):
, I've really, you know, tappedin.
I'm so in tune with myself, theconsciousness around me,
everything that we've forwardall the way to today, where now
I'm a Reiki teacher and I'mactually a breathwork
facilitator.
So that is something recentwhere I realized my, you know,
(05:11):
introduction into all of thiswas this three hour long
breathwork workshop andsomething where I realized, oh,
it came full circle.
Finding the right teachers atthe right time where breathwork
and then teaching other peoplehow to be their own healer, be
their own, you know, they aretheir own medicine.
That's really important to meto put that empowerment into
(05:33):
other people's hands, versusrelying on other people to help
them heal.
Today of now, this year, reallypushing forward with teaching,
you know, launching a program tohelp guide other people to
strengthen their own healingabilities and their intuition.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, we're gonna dissect everything that you're
sharing with us, but to kind ofgo with the whole thread of
everything, why don't you goahead and tell us a little bit
about that program?
What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So the program kicks off because, first and foremost,
I am a Reiki teacher.
So it kicks off with a, let'ssay, Reiki level one and
typically, if you look for itonline, a Reiki level one, you
can learn it in one weekend.
And so, yes, I think that'sgreat, but I think I wanted to,
(06:29):
you know, help deepen otherpeople's practice.
Cause when I learned Reiki itwas like here, here's this, your
, your hands are attuned, now goand practice on your own and
figure it, kind of figure it,you know, you just kind of left
on your own.
So I just think, um, you know,I want to make a program
available for those that maybewant to meet weekly also with
(06:52):
other students that are in thejourney themselves, because I
think when I first started on myenergy, energy healing practice
, that was like my deep diveinto personal growth, my
spiritual journey journey too.
And as you do that, you realizethe people that you've known
for a long time or maybe friendsfrom your twenties, your
thirties, coworkers even are notin the same, you know headspace
(07:17):
and you would like to be onthis journey with other liked
minded individuals.
So I think people also startingat the same capacity, same
level, is nice to have you know,a cohort together and then just
taking them through weekly onother tools and practices to add
(07:37):
on to their Reiki learning.
So whether that's also anythingthat deals with helping them to
work with their own energytapping in.
So we do a lot of ancestral work, tapping into that, even a
little touch on human design,because for those people that
have heard of human design, it'sreally working with your
energetic blueprint how to bestuse your energy.
(08:00):
Because we're all not you knowthe same, yet we were
conditioned.
Maybe you're conditioned andtaught.
You know, and your parentsmaybe treated you the same as
your brother or sister orcousins or your caretakers or
the school, when we're all verydifferent, unique individuals.
That intuition, practice, right, Having classmates to practice
(08:28):
that, with a little moreguidance on exercises and ways
you can enhance and strengthenthat muscle Sounds very cool.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I really love that support like handheld along the
way, especially for the newbies.
How many weeks is that?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's 12 weeks, so it's about it's a three month
program.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Beautiful.
I feel like that's a goodenough time where you feel like,
okay, I'm ready to go on my own.
That's beautiful and I reallylove.
You know what?
I haven't heard anybody who'soffering something like that in
the Reiki space not to myknowledge.
So that's really cool.
I love how we can get all thetools that have been useful to
us along the way and and make itbetter or enhance it or, you
(09:08):
know, put our, our ownuniqueness into it.
So I love that.
That's very beautiful.
Tell me more in regards tobreathwork.
Do you do any events online,locally, like?
Is breathwork something thatyou're still a big part of?
Are you mostly focusing on,like the reiki and this course
coming up now, or?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
breathwork is something I really you know,
even a decade ago when Idiscovered it.
I have intentions to bring itto my own community.
So I'm based here in long beachright now.
That's kind of where my homebase is in the States, and so
when I moved here, I was gettingto really immerse myself in the
community and partner withstudios.
(09:50):
There's this cool tea sanctuaryI partnered with I'm
Filipino-American aFilipino-American or Filipino
community center, and so doingholding, try to partner with
them and hold at least once amonth something local where it
is an introduction to breathwork, people can experience it.
It's a lower ticket item, it'sjust something for the community
(10:12):
as well, as I try to do someonline.
But I'm also focused onbringing breathwork or guided
meditations to small to mediumto corporate size businesses, so
bringing wellness into theworkplace too.
Coming from corporate, I get itas a and I get it from a
business owner standpoint too,or a manager, in the space of
(10:32):
how, if we can have companies,management teams, support people
in their company with wellness,especially people in leadership
roles, how it can be sobeneficial to decision-making,
to just relieving from stress,to even then turning into
(10:52):
helping them in their personallives, clearing things, clearing
that muck the emotions, theenergy out.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I love that and I actually feel the same way when
it comes to.
I'm not sure if you had achance to read a little bit
about my bio, but I'm also abreathwork facilitator and
awesome.
So I come from a nursingbackground for 10 years, so
that's where I take a lot oflike we have rehab places,
(11:22):
attorneys we work with and justlike that corporate aspect,
taking in breathwork into thecorporate space and wow, I mean
I feel like that is such an areawhere we can really grow and
expand and make a positiveimpact on if we had more reach.
(11:44):
I was thinking, brainstormingabout sorry about that about
getting a nonprofit to try tosee if we can get this into
prisons, into mental healthfacilities, like in places where
it's so much needed, you know.
So I'm working on that.
(12:06):
It's a work in progress, but itis a dream of mine to get it
where, because it saved my life,you know, and I feel like it
has helped so many of us whilewe've been through a challenge
and I'll ask you just a littlebit about a challenge that maybe
you can share, um witheverybody.
Uh, cause we've all been thereand life is cycles, is death and
rebirth, is, is ups and downs.
(12:27):
Um, it's a spiral where we'renot exempt even if we've been
doing the work forever, um, fromany challenges or emotions or
anything at all.
We just have tools, have toolsthat can help us surf the wave a
little bit better.
Right, at least that's myperspective on it.
So, yeah, yeah, I would love toI resonate a lot with that,
(12:48):
with taking it into theworkplace and taking it into
spaces where it's not as common.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You have to keep me in touch with Toasted on that
Well it'll be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Trust me God knows what's happening so it's
orchestrating everything andit'll happen just as it needs to
be.
In regards to a challenge, Ialways like to kind of touch
into any particular challengethat maybe you want to share,
whether it's your ownentrepreneurial journey, or it's
your own personal spiritualawakening or whatever it is that
(13:23):
you want to share a challengingmoment in your life and like
how you overcame it, or justlike a little synopsis or story
on it that can maybe motivateand help other people.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, you talk about.
You know the timing, whetherit's's god, the universe, always
having divine timing for us.
As a serial entrepreneur, whenI left new york I didn't go
straight into healing, you know,that was something just I was
finding, whether it's amazonhaving products on amazon, I've
created my own other productsand putting that out.
(13:59):
And then it was only until lastyear where I decided to really
step into my gifts and purposeand full time put my efforts
into this, versus it being aside by word of mouth.
But that I spent, I think, alllast year in my own feels, my
(14:20):
limiting beliefs, in my ownblocks of realizing.
I mean, I can tell anybody andI've done so many businesses
where I had an idea and it wasproduct-based, I created that.
I can take it from concept togetting it manufactured, product
packaging, put it in on market.
But when it becomes you andthis is like really what I
(14:41):
believe, why I'm here and apurpose to really help humanity,
and I get excited to wake upand start work.
I don't get the Sunday scariesbecause I'm excited for Monday.
I'm working on Sunday andMonday to roll around to like
figure out you know what othercreations can come out of this
business, but I didn't realizehow hard it would be like, how
(15:04):
much I would still have toreflect on all these limiting
beliefs I had and it turned veryI'm not going to say dark, but
it's really.
I had to dig deep inside of meto you know how do I keep going?
I was one social media and I amnot.
(15:24):
I'm like, oh, I have to get onmy social media, I have to be
seen.
I was so used to not wanting tobe seen.
I still am not.
If you kind of look at myInstagram, I try to do it in
ways where it's talking to thecamera and that's just.
You know how I wanted to do it,but I realized that that caused
(15:45):
me to not want to be seen, toplay small and dig.
Why was this happening?
And therefore it wasn't helpingme grow my business.
It wasn't helping me.
You know, I'm trying to scalenow and because, being the
healer I am and I'm a doubleScorpio, so I'm very I didn't
(16:06):
realize sudden rising.
My whole life is birth, death,rebirth, transformation, rise
from the ashes, phoenix, andit's over and over and over
again, until when I think, oh,I've worked on this, I've come
so far.
Here's another thing and I, oh,I've worked on this, I've come
so far.
Here's another thing and I gointo so with through breathwork,
I really went in and askedmyself where is this all coming
(16:29):
from?
Why am I like, where is this?
Where?
How am I holding myself backwith not wanting to like go big
with the business, be seen andshown out there, and I was like
I went back into it and realizedthere were these incidences
from my childhood that um,stemmed from, like my mother's
(16:51):
line, so it went from likethings my grandmother would say,
or you know, like, say to me, Imean it, it sounds so light.
Other people have, like thesedeep suited hardships and
traumas but you know, we don'trealize like just one little
thing you can say to a four yearold kid can actually create
something that lasts them intoadulthood.
And so, facing the realizationthat I like have held on this
(17:17):
hatred towards my grandmother,you know, up until just last
year and that's trickled into,even facing like these mother
wounds I hold on to my mom and Ifound out it's actually very
ancestral and karmic on that inthat side, um, um, having to
(17:38):
work through that and forgiveand let it not be a hiccup, was
actually a big challenge I hadto overcome last year and still
this year was working on it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
so I feel like this podcast is about to take a turn,
because you, yeah, so this Imean.
I love to shine light in ourgifts and what we have to offer,
because it's an energy exchange.
We have to feed our family,feed ourselves, and you know the
(18:14):
impact we're making with theworld.
There's reciprocity in whatwe're doing, right.
But speaking of this is wherethe work is.
Okay, it's not rainbows andsunshines, there are moments,
but this is where the work is.
I feel like most people that areawakening.
You know they're the ones intheir generation, in their
(18:36):
family, whether it's on the.
You know they're the ones intheir generation, in their
family, whether it's on thefather's side, mother's side,
the ones that are taking what Icall radical responsibility.
And responsibility I also breakthat into two response and
ability.
Our ability to respond to life,okay, to what happens to us, to
(18:57):
the space in where we're born,our subconscious mind.
That's 95% operating.
We operate 95% out of oursubconscious mind and only 5%
conscious mind.
So imagine all the stuff youheard from your grandma, from
your mom.
All of that stuff is in yoursubconscious mind.
You are not conscious thatyou're being guided by that old
(19:18):
system.
So we have to reprogram that.
It's no longer helping us.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
We honor you.
I would never want todisrespect.
If it wasn't for them, you know, we wouldn't have this
opportunity because it is a gift, um, you know, that's been
passed down, passed down andjust hasn't been able to to
really transform that gift rightand and transcend into the next
(19:39):
, into the next step for thatlineage.
Um, so I feel the fact thatyou're like okay, enough of this
, you know where is this comingfrom.
You went all the way withoutcounting, like past life,
parallel lives and a bunch ofother stuff, just to keep it
real simple, right, but you'relike okay, let me go to the root
.
That's that's beautiful thatyou did that, because I feel
(20:03):
like you're not operating and alot of us are not operating
anymore.
We're tired of operating fromthe victimhood.
We're like we're more taking onthat, that hero journey and
taking charge and takingresponsibility, and be like no,
you know, and, and we, we see it, we see how our mothers ended
up, how our grandmothers endedup is like okay, do I want to
repeat that same pattern or do Iwant things to be different in
(20:25):
my case?
Um, and it's not to judge thembecause they are beautiful and
perfect.
That's their soul journey andthat's their soul, you know, um,
evolution and their own way, um, but just to to see them as
teachers like okay, what do Iwant to take and not take from
this and what do I want tochange?
So I feel like what you've justtouched on and for a lot of us I
(20:46):
don't know in the Filipinoculture how it is, but a lot of
us it's limiting beliefs andscarcity around everything, like
literally everything.
Like the toothpaste, they wouldscrub the last little piece out
, like like the smallest thingsyou could imagine.
So, going into that because Ilike to bring humor and play
(21:06):
into this a little bit would youshare with us a little funny
thing that either your grandmaor your mom would do?
That's just a little bit oflike, maybe in luck, or you
don't see it the same way, orit's just like, okay, you know,
I don't want to do that with mykids, or I want to keep doing
that myself, or like justsomething weird.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I know, and so that's why I talk about, because I do
work with what I call firstgeneration cycle breakers and as
a and you know I didn't want tosay more of kids of immigrants
because it could be other youknow second, third generation,
but I am a kid of an immigrantand, like you, it I feel like
with immigrants it's that blackmentality, because they came
here with very little and theydon't want to lose anything that
(21:46):
they've worked so hard for.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But, um, so just think of some any story, but
with you know, maybe somethingyour grandma used to say all the
time that we kept hearing itand it's just like you know.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I don't want to change that well, it's more of a
response of like I don't knowif this is with, maybe,
culturally, with where she is,is um, just well, here cause,
(22:24):
because for the consciousparents parenting consciously
out there, right, but that's notwhat I heard in the household.
So it's any little thing frommy grandma that we do wrong, we
would get yelled at so hard thatyou know, or if we didn't
address her properly and we justsaid yeah, yes, yes, what?
Yes, grandma, you know, it justbecame this thing.
(22:44):
But it was just that whereyou're on eggshells one day, but
then with her it's like that,and then she would turn and
start like laughing the nextmoment.
So we didn't know if she waslike angry or just not really
poking fun or challenging us,but it became this thing.
But it is with that high, um, Ibecame very, I think like maybe
(23:08):
that's where the perfectionismcame in.
You don't want to do anythingwrong, you want to just like,
keep things up, not get yelledat, right, you don't want to
rock the boat.
But then I don't know if thatwas also keeping us being
perfect and proper, so that wewouldn't disrupt when we left
the house, that we wouldn'tdisrupt the Western society, and
we just like don't bringattention to yourself, keep the
(23:33):
peace and you don't want to getin trouble at school, because
then we don't want our family tolook like we raised somebody
that would cause any anything.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I don't we need to turn this to a humorous way, but
it's just kind of no, no, thatis hilarious.
I'll say that to me now inretrospect.
Of course, when you're living,it's a little bit different.
Right, you take it to the heart, but let's, let's go deeper
into that, because I feel, firstof all, I haven't had an
episode where we go so deep intothis subject and I feel that
(24:01):
it's necessary.
I feel like God guided us rightwhere we need to go with the
podcast.
That's how I feel in regards tothis.
So a lot of the times, a lot ofthe introspection that I do
with my life is okay.
Where and how am I doing thatin my life currently?
(24:22):
Because I'm replaying that someway somehow.
Am I playing small?
Do I not want to be seen?
Do I not want to be heard?
Do I not want to speak up?
Do I want to keep you know?
Whatever, whatever it is, youknow that we're recreating the
samereating, the same thing,same limitations, in a different
scenario in our life and we'relike no, I'm nothing like my
(24:43):
grandma.
Yeah, we are, so you have tosee how we can change it, and
that's I love that.
I love to ask myself, like okay, I'm constantly questioning
everything, like okay andrelationship to that, and I want
to touch on forgiveness becauseI'm going to tell you it
happened to me with my dad, justlike, like, like that he I
(25:08):
don't think we agree on almostanything of his view of the
world or his way of treatingwomen, or just almost nothing.
And it's perfect because he'sbeen a great teacher and for a
lot of stuff for me.
But just understanding, like,also like your grandma was a
mirror for me they're doing itout of love.
(25:30):
They don't know that they'rethat's.
You know they're carrying allof the stuff from.
They don't know that they'rethat's.
You know they're carrying allof this stuff from their
childhood, from their parents,blah, blah, blah, and they're
carrying it onto you withoutever having a chance to heal it.
Maybe they they never had achance to heal it Cause, like my
dad was always working like, upto like late hours and a lot of
jobs, like he would never evenconsider meditating.
(25:50):
He's like, who has time forthat?
I have to work, you have towork until you die.
So you see the mentality.
So I'm really grateful to havethe opportunity to be.
You know that they did all thatsacrifice for me to be able to
do some breath work, do somemeditation and be able to have
the time to look at that.
Um, luckily, we've been doing alot of work in the family where
(26:11):
we've been able to practiceforgiveness with each other,
which, at the core core, nobodyhas to forgive anyone and there
is really no judgment, infinitelove.
But from this perspective itseems that way and helps the
relationships to come closer.
So I want to ask you if it'snot too personal.
How was that forgivenessprocess for you and your grandma
(26:35):
and your mom and stuff likethat?
Is there anything you wanted?
It was maybe something personalyou went through to get to that
point, because I feel like whenwe hold resentment for 10 years
, 15 years, we're only drinkingthat poison ourselves.
It's not helping us.
It's really not.
So I would like to ask you howwas that forgiveness part for
(26:56):
you?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, I will say it's still an ongoing process, very
much so it I didn't even realizehow deep rooted I needed it was
with my grandmother untilrecently.
But with my mother I can't evenknow.
I don't even know if it's aforgiveness thing, but at peace,
(27:19):
more like, because knowing Idid do a lot of different works
with my relationship with her,but I still notice when I see
her in person I have flinches,like physical flinches of and
maybe what daughter doesn'ttowards their mother, of
(27:41):
irritation, and it's really isjust this, finding that
unconditional love in my heartand everything I do.
And I say this to people love.
Once I understood the energy oflove and it is rooted in every
action I do I can understandthat she came and she did the
(28:08):
best she could and she did thebest she could, she wanted the
best and, like you were saying,it was all out of love.
But that is just the way theyknew how.
And different generation,different times, where we in
this generation have thesepractices now where we can
self-reflect and we have thattime, or some of us make that
time and some of us make it partof our profession or who we are
(28:31):
.
Time some of us make it part ofour profession or who we are,
and that, because you know Idon't want it stops here, right?
I don't want to be like that tothe next generation, to my
future children.
So, yeah, that's an ongoingprocess.
With the forgiveness it's moreof a finding peace and, just you
know, filling myself with lovewhen I see them and with that
(28:54):
then I can't hold on to anyresentment, anger, but it is,
it's, it's how you know how manydecades and years of my life
that I've held onto it.
So, like, easier said than done.
It can't for me, maybe for a lotof things can't just happen in
one breath work, practice,that's why we breathe, like as
(29:15):
practitioners.
Some of us breathe daily, youknow, and then it's uncovering
another block of limiting beliefand stemming it back to a
different altercationconversation your mother or
grandmother had with you andthen healing that.
So I will say this forgivenessthing is is, I'm constantly
(29:35):
working at it and my grandmotherI don't see her.
She's in the Philippines now.
I mean, she was with me upuntil, like maybe high school
and then she moved back to thePhilippines.
So I don't have that muchcontact with her.
But I think it's just forgiving.
Did a lot of work to forgivethat moment in time to the like
(29:56):
five-year-old self, where anincident occurred and then, as I
was younger, you know so.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I want to make a point.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I mean I, when you said your family is working with
forgiveness and all that.
I am like that is amazing,because I don't hear that a lot
working with forgiveness and allthat.
I am like that is amazing,cause I don't hear that a lot
and I can't say you know, thatis something I really need to
really still take some time to.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'll give you, uh, an idea.
You don't have to, but I didand it went well.
Uh, I guess it's a case by casespace, um, depending on you
know how much trauma and stuffhas has happened.
Um, I'll give you two ideas.
One that you may know of,because you already do energy
work, so you can just connectwith the higher self of that
(30:42):
person, whether the person haspassed or the person's still
alive, and have thatconversation.
If you just don't want to haveit right now in person, or just
can't have it in person, andthat's really great.
I mean, it feels wonderful foryou.
It just it's, it's amazing andit's funny, because their higher
self will answer back.
So you're going to get a lot ofwonderful information when it
(31:06):
comes to that.
That's a cool exercise.
Another thing that I did with mydad I wrote him a letter, um,
and he and I asked him hey, youknow, do you want to participate
in this exercise?
I was thinking of writing you aletter and if you want, you can
write me a letter.
You don't have to.
Whatever we sell, like my momheard of it, my mom was the
(31:29):
first one to write the letter.
Uh, I was thinking of doing itjust with him, but she wanted to
participate as well, so I saidokay.
So we all wrote a letter toeach one.
I was so surprised.
My dad ended up writing sevenpages and I literally wrote like
one page Like I didn't think itwould see.
So it really surprised mebecause he said stuff that he
(31:51):
had never said to me ever before, like I had no idea that was
his thought process, so it gaveme a lot of his perspective.
So forgiveness is ongoing aswell as regulating our nervous
system.
Just because we'repractitioners of breath work or
meditation or Reiki or XYZwhatever it is that we're doing,
(32:12):
this is part of our dailypractice.
This is our work.
So it's not a lot of peoplecome in to work with us and
probably want to get fixed inone visit, three visits, but
it's an ongoing practice, youknow.
So yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, you can only take people as far as we've gone
.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I agree, beautiful.
Is there anything else that youwant to share with us today,
that you feel called to share?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I was just going to say if no one's ever tried
breath work, whether it's withyou or myself, please, please do
it.
Aside from tapping into, youknow your body, your breath
connecting there.
But it's for me I tell theother people who need
psychedelics or plant medicine,when you have breath work, the
(33:15):
shamanic things that have comethrough lately in my practice,
the ancestral medicine andwisdom that's come through and
all the things, it's just fun.
I say it's fun when I get outof it.
It's just, it's a trip, it'sfun.
So I really hope people youknow know, try at least once and
see where they can tap into allthat beauty and love that's
(33:41):
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I'll say this every breathwork um is completely
different.
So, whether you do it with meor with her, or with xyz, every
not only is every facilitatordifferent, but even with that
same facilitator, every eventyou attend is going to be
different, and everybreakthrough and every download
and everything is going tochange Um.
(34:02):
So I highly invite you to openyour heart.
I feel like breath work is alot of like the preventive
medicine, um, like reallyexercising and meditating and
including breath work.
All of that is a lot of likepreventative medicine, in my
opinion, before we go into afull blown anything, right,
(34:26):
because a lot of the stuff thatare in our subconscious mind, a
lot of the trauma that's storedin our body, that we haven't
processed, that we've beenrepressing and putting under the
rug for so long, that's goingto come out somewhere, either
autoimmune disease, or it'sgoing to come out in any.
It's going to manifestphysically somewhere, somehow.
I don't want to give guarantees, but oh my God, there's a high
(34:48):
probability that's going tohappen.
Okay, so really using thesepractices for that there,
there's so much that breathworkcan do for you.
Uh, we're not going to go intothat, but I always like to to
leave people with with somethingpractical that they can use.
So I'll share with them abreathwork sequence that they
can practice.
If you want to share anything,whether it's breathwork related
(35:10):
or not like maybe it could benuggets of wisdom or whatever,
or a little trick, or whateveryou want to share I'll share
with you two breathworksequences to help you relax and
come into your parasympatheticnervous system, relax and digest
state.
You can do this at any time.
This is not an activatingbreath.
(35:32):
Okay, I just want to point thatout.
It is not for the sympathetic.
So usually if you're druggy inthe morning, you don't have a
lot of energy.
This is probably not one ofthem.
But if you're anxious or youwant to relax before you go to
bed, this is a good sequence foryou.
You're going to do inhale andexhales through the nose and you
can do a four six count inhalethrough the nose to a count of
(35:53):
four, exhale to a count of six.
Or you can inhale through thenose to a count of four and
exhale to a count of eight.
If you see what I'm doing ismaking the exhale longer, okay.
So this is going to get you torelax, into a parasympathetic,
relaxed state.
Okay For you to go to bed orfor you to relax.
You're really anxious.
You can do that.
Or you can do the 4-4-4, whichis the most common that
(36:16):
everybody knows.
You inhale through the nose toa count of four.
You hold at the top for four,you exhale for four and hold at
the bottom for four.
Okay, so I hope that serves you.
Those are three quick sequencesthat you could do at any time
to come back to center and relax.
One last one that I think mightreally be good.
It's going to be the BromaryHumming Bee Breath, because
(36:37):
that's going to activate yourvagus nerve, so that's really
going to relax you.
So it looks and sounds likethis You're going to breathe in
through the nose and you'regoing to exhale through the nose
, but while on the exhale you'regoing to make a humming sound.
So it's to make a humming sound, so it's, and that humming, I
like to really extend it untilI'm out of air.
So you could try that and seeif that works for you.
(37:03):
Okay, so I hope that washelpful.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Is there anything you want to share with our audience
?
I love that, yes, well, I meanwhat was coming through to me is
, since you've already tappedinto the breathwork part, back
to, like, you know, tapping intoyour heart and trusting
yourself, trusting that innerwisdom within you practice, you
know, you can do to just reallystrengthen your intuition or
feel into how you're feelingthat day.
Or if you want any messages,you know and you're like, what
(37:27):
are people talking about?
Getting downloads and messages.
It's all within you.
So all you have to do is like,keep your heart open, stay quiet
, so you can just, you know,first thing in the morning or in
midday, if you just need alittle like guidance or just
want to quiet your mind, justclose your eyes, you know, take
a deep breath in and imagineopening your heart up and exhale
(37:49):
, and then just ask somethingand exhale and then just ask
something.
Ask whether it's a question youhave, or just ask, hey, my
ancestors, any guides, ourguardian angels, they're all
just waiting on the sidelines.
Just breathe into your heartand say, like masking my
ancestors, what's the next movedo I need to make to make this
(38:12):
XYZ goal happen?
And so to breathe and let go ofthe chatter in your mind, open
your heart and just listen orvisualize however you best, or,
if you need to write down whatpops through, and just don't
second guess it, trust it.
And the more you continue to dothat, guess it, trust it.
(38:36):
And the more you continue to dothat, the more you will like
strengthen that trust withinyourself, within to your guides,
your ancestors it's all thesame angels, guides, ancestors I
.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think your next course is going to be connecting
with your guides.
You just gave a mini course onhow to connect with your guides.
Yeah, your guides, your higherself, all of it.
Yeah, your guides, your higherself, all of it.
Source everything is within you.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's the truth and it is.
If you start doing thatpractice, as I started doing it,
and like writing and channelingit down, I'm like they're
pretty harsh they will tell youhow it is and it is the truth.
You need to hear so it's.
And no, you know, no one elsecan tell you that.
No advice from anybody else.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's absolutely beautiful there.
What I always say is there aremany roads, or all roads lead to
Rome, like that saying.
And then Rome, to me, is source.
So there are many ways.
Whether it's breathwork,meditation, any type of energy
work, it doesn't matter, they'reall going to take, they're all
should take you.
Whether it's plant work,meditation, any type of energy
work, it doesn't matter, they'reall going to take, they're all
(39:35):
should take you.
Whether it's plant medicine,whatever, to connect with your
heart, and that's that holds thekey.
That is the entry point.
Blue pill, red pill Are yougoing to take it?
What are you going to do?
And that's where.
That's where the magic pillthat everyone's looking for.
It's in the heart connection,in that's where.
(39:59):
That's where the magic pillthat everyone's looking for,
it's in the heart connection, inthe heart.
That's it.
I think you don't have to getany pills.
I.
I think that's beautiful to endit with that.
Okay, love is the answer.
Go within.
Uh, you know, it's all in yourheart.
As cliche as it is.
That is what it is yeah, it iswhat it is.
We can't deny it.
Once you've seen it, you cannotunsee it.
So this is what we have toshare with you.
I hope that it was really,really helpful.
(40:19):
I feel that you can all reallyfeel how authentically we're
sharing, that we really want tohelp you guys and want to share
with you what has worked for usby doing it through our soul,
aligned business.
And that's what really share, Imean fills our heart, to share
with everybody and help as manypeople as possible.
(40:42):
We've been in your shoes, we'vewalked your road.
That's you know.
That's why we're sharing it.
We know what it like in theflesh, what it feels like, so I
hope it serves everybody.
It has been an honor.
I love you.
Guys, go check her out.
Could you share with us yourInstagram or your website or
(41:03):
whatever, wherever you want themto go and check you out?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
My website is myfirstnamecom, so Hesalizacom,
and I'm most frequently onInstagram, so it's at Hesaliza.
Underscore energy healing.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Awesome and we're gonna leave it in the
description for you guys tocheck it out and just be a click
away from that.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Thank you, thank you.
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