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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Javier, welcome to Quantum Alchemist Podcast.
Wait, do you want to do it inEnglish or in Spanish?
Most of our podcasts are inEnglish.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We could do it in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We could do a little Spanglish or you know, however
it flows.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And you know what?
We're going to keep this inthere.
We're not going to cut it out.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is how we mastermind.
The podcast is very organic.
It's really conversation andtea.
There's not much more to itgetting to know beautiful souls
that come into the space thatsomehow, although we're all
connected, it's just divinetiming as well.
Right, because I've heard aboutyou.
Um, I saw you on a podcast herewith paulo.
(00:39):
Paulo come over, say hi.
Um, this is my dear friend,pablo.
This is his studio, by the way,where I record a lot of the
courses, a lot of the podcaststuff here.
Thank you, pablo, for the space.
Appreciate you very much.
He's also producer.
He does a lot of our of ouraudios, meditations and stuff
like that.
So if you ever need it, reachout to pablo, I'll put them
(01:01):
below as well.
So I came around your book and apodcast episode you did with
Pablo.
Like no, pablo, how long?
Like six months, eight months,yeah, more or less.
And right away it caught myattention his poetry.
I said no, I have to read it.
I have to read it.
And it caught my attention thesymbol that he has outside his
book, because this is the symbolthat represents my soul.
(01:23):
It's a sacred geometry and Iwas like, very interesting.
Whenever I see him, I'm goingto ask him about that symbol as
well, and I kept that there.
I came here, did many sessionsin my course, didn't think about
it and I don't remember howexactly it happened.
I asked Pablo, pablo, let mehave his number.
I don't know.
Like two weeks ago, I don'tknow.
Let me have his number.
I don't know, like two weeksago, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
More or less?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I just reached out to him out of the blue.
He doesn't know me in thisincarnation yet up until today,
and here we are, so it's really,really a wonderful
synchronicity.
I'm honored to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Can't wait to hear your story.
Thank you very much for youropportunity and to be able to
share, and thank you for thespace, pablo, you know I
appreciate it.
So, yeah, all is in order.
You know, in the true flow ofthings, when we are in harmony
(02:26):
with all that is, everythingcomes together in a perfect
dance.
So it's just being able to beaware, to live it.
You know, because the key isnot to stay in the intellect but
to bring it to the practice.
And I'm basically, like mygreat teacher said, once you
(02:50):
realize, live, live in orderwith those laws that represent
God, that represent the universe, represent the universe.
So I would like to thank you,and thank you and all those that
(03:11):
have made it happen for you tobe here, for us to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So, thank you so much .
So I would love to get to knowyou on a deeper level, even your
childhood, like where you'refrom, a little bit about your
childhood and pretty much kindof like your hero's journey,
whatever you feel like sharingand how you got to where you are
today.
As a matter of fact, I don'teven know what you do.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So if you just want to tell us something, well, I
could start with the rememberingas being maybe six years old
and laying in.
I was born in Cuba, um came tothe States.
My parents brought me, uh, in1983, I was nine years old, Uh,
(03:55):
but I, uh, I lived those nineyears, uh, those nine years, in
a state that I could recallinfinite.
When I say that is my mostprecious moments or memories
come from me and I probably feela lot of us have done that,
(04:19):
okay, but to me it was areminder of what I was looking
for, and I remember sitting inmy parents' house in Cuba and I
would be not sitting but layingin the floor, okay, and just
looking outside without nothinking whatsoever.
It was just a moment of ah.
(04:42):
It was an aha moment.
There was no, no tension, therewas actually the whole sound
just diminished, and that stayedin my mind for many years.
For many years I was luckyenough to have been accompanied
by a great teacher, my brother,and he, I think he was more
(05:06):
aware, you know, in thisincarnation, and he was one of
those that reminded me, or keptit alive, that there was other
things, more than what we wereable to perceive with our five
senses.
So that state of uh-huh that Ijust described to you guys stay
(05:27):
with me.
For up to now and throughout myyears I have come to the
realization, through what I callthe hammer, to realize that
there has to be another way, asimpler way.
So I started researching.
(05:51):
Of course I went through whatthey call dark nights of the
soul and I guess at thebeginning I didn't take it real
like for real.
You know, this will also pass.
(06:12):
But then I saw myself again inthose moments and at one point
in my life I said I made a, a, Imade myself a.
How do you say A stamp?
What was all this if we werehere just to live and be and
that the question of God is badis good.
(06:50):
Look at everything that ishappening.
And then I made an infiniteproposal, not only for this
physical plane.
Wherever I was aware of, Iwould always get those questions
(07:14):
and that realization.
So from that moment, well, Idid my things.
I studied art.
What kind of art.
Multimedia de todo tipo de arte.
Eso fue high school time.
Tuve oportunidades de poder ira Francia scholarships, Eso en
(07:37):
89.
Y bueno, por una razón u otra,no lo cogí.
No, no, Sentía el arte, perodecía bueno.
Veía a las personas que estabanviniendo.
I didn't take it.
I felt the art, but I saw thepeople who were coming from
Europe.
In reality, they weren't livingit and I said, well, I need to
(08:03):
do something.
That is a little mystical.
Without knowing it, I alwaystook myself to look for human
behavior.
So I entered psychology.
I entered psychology from themost subtle aspect to the most
drastic aspect.
What I'm telling you is that,from family counseling up to
(08:25):
state hospital clients, Peoplewith incredible karma, so I
could see a spectrum in my lifeof what is the subtlety of human
law, and that reminded me ofhow important it was.
Y eso me dio una gran merecordó que era lo importante.
(08:46):
Y desde ahí cogí el arte comoun hobby Y entonces le puse.
I put my attention in thepsychology or psychiatry.
About 30 years later, I decidedthat that was really something
that I needed to leave behind.
Why?
Because I saw this movement inpsychology and psychiatry, that
(09:09):
it was basically one of thoserevolving doors.
You know that left out the mostimportant thing, and that is,
keep in mind.
Right now, in the psychologyfield they're introducing a
little more of mysticism andspiritualism in that arena.
(09:31):
But back when I was, it was verymundane.
It was many treating thesymptom but not the cause.
So at that moment I was goingthrough some things.
At that moment I was goingthrough some things, I left all
that, the career, behind, and Iagain came to the crossroads and
I made again a choice to giveall my attention to a true
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knowledge what had brought peacein my life, what had brought a
paradise in my life.
And that doesn't mean thatthings were okay because people
perceive like, oh, you're inparadise, so everything is fine.
No, what that truly means isthat you're such peace with
yourself.
You understand why thingshappen, you understand how the
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laws of the universe work andwhy somebody's suffering and the
other one's not.
So that brings you to a higherself of awareness and that
brings peace within you.
It might sound a littleegotistic to say well, that you
know you're in a different level, but it's not.
It's basically a fact.
(10:39):
You know, throughout my years Ialways what kept me was that
child, that inner teacher thatstill did not have the vehicle
or the programming to expresshimself okay in this realm, but
it was already connecting to theall in that floor, just in a
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state of meditation, what I feelI call it, and it was natural.
So I felt that that wassomething very powerful and I
tried to imitate that throughthe years.
And I found a great teacher inmy life by the name of Santiago
Aranei, un maestro ascendido,and for some reason I started
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paying attention.
I started paying attention andI started taking his
introductions to this knowledge.
That is a knowledge that comesfrom, it's a pure knowledge that
comes from the old.
It's the original old Egyptianstudies, Okay, and that comes
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beyond, in the Atlantean times,but it was more developed and
put into lessons in the Egyptiantimes.
Of course, not for the masses.
This was something like it'snow.
It was something that verylittle people looked for.
So I was blessed to be able toremind myself through that
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studies, and not only throughthe studies but to the practice.
Uh, this knowledge is, uh isintroduced with very simple
techniques, very simpletechniques, uh, and that's why
it's hard.
It becomes hard because the egoalways wants to complicate
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things.
It wants to always.
It cannot be that simple, itcannot be just, it has to be
more.
So I went through all thestudies.
I was blessed to be able to getinitiated in the highest levels
(13:04):
, get initiated in the highestlevels, and I was given the
opportunity in the past years tobe able to share that knowledge
.
It's not for everyone, it's forthose that are seeking something
extremely pure.
You know about helping.
We need to be very sure thatthat's truly what we're doing
(13:26):
Because, remember, sometimes wehave, you know, beings that are
there and they need help.
But we need to realize that bytaking away the lesson or the
karma that they have createdfrom themselves Okay, we're
noising, they have created fromthemselves Okay, we're noising,
but if we come and just take itaway, what you're creating is
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more habit along the line forthat individual or that soul,
Because it's not going to clearthe karma, it's just going to
make it better.
If we all know, whenever wehaven't really seen an issue and
we haven't really reflected onit and somebody just oh, your
mom helped you and or yourbrother and everything, you find
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yourself in that position.
Worst, maybe in two days ormaybe in 10 years, yes, so
discernment needs to be key, youknow?
Uh, so it's important.
It's important In this sense ofthis journey.
It's basically our whole workis to introduce this knowledge
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that all it does is it remindsyou of all the levels of
existence within yourself.
Okay, how the universe works,how the universe of God works,
how man's mind body.
It's very complete.
We go from the self, from themicrocosmos into the macrocosmos
(14:55):
.
Okay, Like I say, this journey,or this study of this knowledge
, what we call it's verycomplete.
You know, it's not for you toif you want to, yes, go out
there, but it's basically foryou to find yourself within the
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universe and at one point you'regoing to find out that you are
that universe, you know.
So, yeah, yeah, so by simple, uh, like I say it's, it's an
individual journey.
It's an individual journey.
I call it because I was talkingabout the polarity a little.
We're going back and forth but,um, I see a lot of.
(15:39):
I try to stay away from a lotof external stimuli when it
comes to realizing.
I'm not saying the external isbad, I'm not saying it's bad to
meditate on a flower, no, butyou have to prepare yourself for
what we're getting Tounderstand.
What are you doing?
Because you might be imaginingand not visualizing, two
(16:04):
different things.
Okay, imagination I'll give youan example is you're driving
home and you're imagining you'regoing to have an ice cream cone
.
You can still drive.
Visualization.
You can't do that while you'redriving.
You're going to crash, becausevisualization is you're
projecting your consciousnessthat all it is.
You're projecting yourconsciousness that all it is in
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the universe is consciousness inthat moment in time.
So you cannot be driving.
So it's important to to prepareyourself intellectually and
spiritually for that awakeningthat it's only the first step.
Everybody's looking forenlightenment and they don't
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realize it's the first step.
Why?
Because the true step is how tostay here, how to live with
enlightenment.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know Rem does.
He's done so many, he had doneso many trips with LSD and all
these, all these things.
And he was just saying, afterdoing all of this, for for this
many years it was all about thehere and now.
And all the great sagesthroughout time have realized
the Buddha, sitting under thetree right he was carrying two
(17:20):
buckets of water got enlightened.
What did he do?
Come back to the here and now,grab the tree right, he was
carrying two buckets of water,got enlightened.
What did he do?
Come back to here now, grab thebuckets.
Kept going.
So it's how we embody, how weanchor, how we integrate all of
this enlightenment.
And for me, enlightenment to meis love is really just love.
There's no separation oranything, it's just love.
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A person who lives, who's verypoor, who has no certificates,
who opens their home to you witha lot of beautiful love and
receives you and gives you somuch love, to me that is the
same as anybody who has whatevercertification and whatever
amount of money.
So to me, enlightenment is justoperating from love and
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embodying love, sharing thatwith others and being more in
alignment with your higher self,with your soul, with whatever
it is.
But it's all in the here andnow, but once you, I think, also
our questions and our quest tolook outside.
Whether you do plant medicine,meditation, whatever you do, um,
we'll eventually kind of circlearound.
(18:25):
From my perspective, which isever-changing, I you know, um,
it could be different fromeverybody, but in my opinion it
has brought me back to the now,to this moment.
the great teachers, uh, from theancient egypt used to say so I
totally we had to stop the twotechnical issues and we went off
(18:53):
rambling about alchemy andabout the inner work and all
these things.
But, as you were mentioningthis pure teaching that you were
initiated in, carry on.
So what if someone wanted to toreach out to you and find out
more?
We're going to put it in thedescription, maybe your email or
however they can reach out.
Um, is this something thatyou're able to share with others
that are ready, that are open,or I believe in the law of
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correspondence okay soeverything is in order.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's something that has not been given to the world
in mass.
Okay, it's something that'svery because, like I say, those
teachers in the past knew whatwas going to happen in every
area, the energy, how everythingwas manifest.
So they kept this very hiddenfrom the masses, how everything
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was manifest.
So they kept this very hiddenfrom the masses.
I only gave how can I say opento that knowledge to those that
were truly seeking how?
By initiations, by being proven, you know, by being proven.
So, yeah, I mean, at thismoment, we started sharing this
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knowledge.
Actually, it's in Spanish, okay, okay, it's in Spanish.
There's 10 levels and eachlevel is a realm of existence.
It's at least in my experience,and I have not only put my
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attention in one knowledge, butI have, throughout my life, I
have seen, and by the work of mygreat teacher, he simplified
everything and noticed thatthere was a line between all
religions and all concepts thatcross themselves, and that's
what was given to those thatseek the truth back in the
ancient times in the schools.
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We meet once a week in theHoliday Inn Express in Airport
Lagoon for about an hour.
It's seven o'clock to eighto'clock um.
This is not a church.
This is not it's you go there.
All we ask is a 12 donationjust because we need to rent the
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space.
That's it.
I don't lucrat, I don't, Idon't charge for this.
The day that I do is the daythat I stopped doing it, you
know.
So I don't.
This is not something to, um,you know, I'll say a form of, uh
, economical sustent.
Not at all.
It's just uh, uh, a mission andum.
(21:37):
So you go, you sit down, youhear a class and then you just
go.
We'll do a meditation, we'll dothe practices of the exercise
that it's giving, like it wasgiven back in the days, and you
go home and you practice.
It's an individual journey.
If you stop going, nobody callsyou.
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It's such an individual thatthat's why this knowledge is not
for everybody, because it's you.
It's actually a study to becomea spiritual teacher, not based
on anything external, but how,diablo y el hombre Dios
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Identificarlo y saber dóndevivir Y que no nos arrastres?
So once you identify thosepolarities between ourselves,
then we could sit in the middleand observe and from that aspect
you're going to be able to flow, you're going to be able to
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truly live, not just speak of it, but truly live paradise,
because you'll be more comodecía Maestro, how the teacher
said, said you could see thingscoming ahead of time because
with this study is a veryorganized and it's in order and
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basically what it does is itdoesn'tgrams you Okay.
It's basically an understandingof stop living through the idea
of the mind and what everybodyhas said in the past and still
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living and start living throughyour higher self.
You stop following no matterwhat anybody says.
That's when you become thesalmon.
You go against the current andeverybody's saying go here, go
here, for you there's something.
And when you start living likethat, out of the blues, you
don't have to say much.
People out of the blues justsay what, what are you doing?
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What you know, what are youdoing?
What you know?
What are you up, what's goingon?
So it becomes, it simplifies alot of things.
So that's our mission.
We do that every Thursday.
So the ones that are, welcomeyou know, they're welcome to
come and enjoy us every Thursdayat 7, 7 to 8 at the Holiday Inn
Express by the airport.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
We'll put the description below on the on the
show notes how you guys can cancontact him directly.
Um, so I have two things to tokind of deepen in regards to
what you just shared.
One is how have youtransitioned this in your really
close relationships mean yourfamily, your partner, because
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coming from a Cuban background Ican relate 100% and later I'll
share a little bit of how myspiritual awakening in my own
journey, how that has kind ofchanged the dynamics in our
family.
It's a ripple effect, right,they see the change in you, they
start asking you questions andbut once again we come back to
the same thing.
You can't take the horse, forceit to drink water Same thing.
(25:05):
So I'm just very curious as tohow this changed within yourself
.
I was given a map ofconsciousness by my guides and
I'll share it with you.
Really, the ending of that isself-reflection and then that
connects to the superconsciousness and in the end,
but it's all about us, it's notoutside of us.
(25:26):
So how has this inner change inour work reflected on your
close circle?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
First of all, there's something that needs to be, I
guess, mentioned, and it's thefact that, when you're going to
start this journey ofremembering, I don't think we
need to learn anything, I thinkit's just basically remembering.
Okay, you need to prepare, weneed to prepare ourselves,
because too much light couldblind you.
(25:56):
Okay, so what I mean is youneed to prepare your vehicle,
your body, okay, your mind andthe spirit.
It needs to be prepared becauseyou're going to show yourself
certain things that, like youmentioned, not everybody's there
, and, remember, people callenlightenment.
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You know what enlightenment is?
Living the world behind,because you stop acting, you
stop acting, you stop feeling,you start living in a complete
different realm Because, keep inmind, all of the realms are
here, all of the planes, thismaterial world is a spiritual
world.
Why?
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Because all it exists is energy.
So, being that said, you haveto prepare yourself to the fact
that nobody's going tounderstand you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And be at peace with that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So there's a word called permit.
You need to permit to be thatway.
By actually not saying anythingand be vibrating in peace and
in harmony, you might be showinga lot of people around you what
they, once, before they evenincarnated, were looking for.
That's why they came to ourfamily.
(27:14):
Okay, uh, keep in mind, the egodoesn't like to see those
things and that's why the mysticneeds to, needs to.
It actually changes and itgives a lot more power to the
silence, because it understandsthat you cannot.
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It has to be an individualsearch.
It has to be individual want.
If not, it's not going to work.
In all our lives we had manysituations of people giving you
things without you working.
You take it for granted, youthrow it away around the corner.
So this is something that needsto be put.
It needs to be individual.
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When you realize that there'sno tension, when you realize
that there's no tension, youknow there's a difference
between the mind and the higherself, and this is one of the big
errors of humanity.
Humanity thinks they're theirmind and their mind is actually
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a vehicle.
That's it.
It's a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Actually, if I may interrupt you there for a moment
, we're really consciouslyoperating at 5%.
95% of that is yoursubconscious and your
unconscious, Aside from infiniteplanes of existence, dimension,
your higher self havingmultiple experiences as a
fractal of your higher self, andso on.
We're not going to complicateit too much, but all those
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infinite multi-layered of thismultidimensional biegwe that we
are are all here in the here andnow.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Where we want to be, where you want to be.
Do you want to play and livewith the hammer all the time in
the polarities?
What I mean by the polaritiesis the mundane God's when he
created the universe, thematerial universe, because God's
universe has always existed.
It's infinite.
We're talking about thematerial.
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It was polarized, god polarizeditself.
Okay, and either you live in thepolarities, el cachumbambé
cubano here and there here andthere, through hits, through
pain, through suffering, throughthe hammer that I call it, or
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you observe in both, you learnhow to observe both without
tension, and you're going to beable to discern where you need
to go.
So, going back to the family,you're going to find yourself
around people that the ego, oncethey see light, or all this
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divine, or this harmony, or thispeace within themselves, if
they don't have the tools to getthere, they're going to try to
fight it.
So what I'm saying is it's okay, Even if it's your family, just
by being in harmony withyourself, not pushing anything
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to anywhere, you're doing themission Because it's a reminder
to them.
They might not like it, theymight get you out of your life,
okay, but that's what you need,that's what everything is
corresponding.
So when you live this life, youunderstand that everything
flows and there's no bad or good.
It's just what we all need torealize how to truly live.
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So, by my new techniques, I'mtalking about two minutes, two
minutes, I remember.
You know, sometimes they tellme well, I'm going in a trip to
the Himalayas, I'm going to pay$20,000.
And I say, okay, you want to dothat, that's fine, there's no
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bad or good, but you have it allright here.
Remember what is meditation?
Meditation is basically beingable to lower the volume of the
mind of the thinking.
Okay, because all thinking isprogramming.
To lower the volume of the mindof the thinking.
Okay, because all thinking isprogramming.
What I mean by programming issomething that somebody already
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thought of.
Okay, you're just repeating it,no matter if it sounds, if it
tastes good, no matter if it'spositive.
You know, don't matter.
Illusion could be positive too.
You know.
Remember that once you tune outall that programming that people
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don't even know they'rethinking because it's 24-7.
Once they identify that andthey could bring it down just by
using very simple exercises,you start hearing your true self
and from that aspect, you don'thave to think about living
anymore, you just kind of live.
You know, many times we've gonethrough issues like driving and
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something just tells you gothrough here, and we never
listen to that guy, we neverlisten to that intuition, we
always no the thinking and thenwe'll go.
Oh, so when I mean true living,I mean el cachumambe.
The ego is no longer in the high.
You're using the mind to be asource of divine manifestation
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by your higher self, not yourlower self, your life starts
changing completely.
But when I say change, it's nothow the ego perceives change,
because for the ego, change isalways something good.
You know, it might be not thatgood, but that's what we all
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need to be able to.
Okay, this is not where I'm at,this is where I need to be.
So don't tense yourself as soonas you tell yourself okay,
people are not understanding me,people don't see this as
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something that it's with them,it's fine, let it be.
Just concentrate in your innerand everything will fall like
the domino into place.
Okay, and like I was saying,remember that time and space is
an illusion.
Not because it doesn't exist.
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Okay, people think that youknow, there's always two
languages, there's a spirituallanguage and there's the People
think when they say an illusion,it's because it doesn't exist.
It exists because when you havea toothache, you have to go to
a doctor.
It's painful.
So it does exist.
What is an illusion is that ourperspective of what time and
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space is is not what it is.
So, because when you lower thethinking that works with time
and space, you lower it, youstart hearing your higher self.
Okay, in that state of no, itbecomes no time and space, it
becomes infinite.
So you don't need to do, andI'm not saying this is bad or
(34:31):
good, I'm just saying you don'tneed to do meditation for an
hour.
You don't need to do, and I'mnot saying this is bad or good,
I'm just saying you don't needto do meditation for an hour.
You don't need to do yoga fortwo hours.
Just that you go into that,that you're able to identify the
thinking first and lower itgives you paradise.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Do you think we can share with our listeners a
couple of tips.
I'll start, if that's okay, allright.
So I've done a lot oftechniques um to to quiet the
outside distractions and gowithin um, one being meditation.
My meditations always vary itcould be a five minute
(35:07):
meditation, it could be an hourand a half meditation.
I never really know um goinginto it.
I give myself enough time, butI really don't know what's going
to happen in my meditation.
And everybody meditatesdifferently.
I want to point that outbecause his meditation could
look completely different frommine.
Some people may be able to justbe in that blank space, what I
(35:29):
call the space between the space, and that's beautiful.
That's fine.
If it works for you, it's great.
Some people see thoughtsflowing like clouds.
That's great too.
There's no right or wrong way tomeditate or to do any of these
practices.
It's very individual.
You have to play with it to seewhat it feels like for you.
For me, when I go into deepstates of meditation, my third
(35:53):
eye opens and I see everythinglike a movie.
So for me it's very different.
It may be different from him,it may be different from you.
Maybe you're someone who feels,who feels lighter, who feels
just like stress is lifting outof your body, or many, many
other different ways.
You could use breathwork.
You could use breathworktechniques that help regulate
(36:14):
your parasympathetic and bringyou into a rest and digest state
.
Or maybe you want to activateyour sympathetic nervous system
because you want to start withenergy in the morning, and maybe
you like to start with breathof fire or whatever it is for
you right Depending.
By the way, if your nervoussystem is not regulated, do not
start with breath of fire.
(36:34):
Okay, we want to regulate thenervous system first.
Make sure you're in a safe,stable space before working with
activating breath sequences.
You can go out and walk innature, you can paint, you can
do art, whatever gets you intothat flow state.
You can just go to park and laydown in the grass like go to
the beach, it doesn't reallymatter, it's whatever gets you
(36:57):
to lower, like he was saying,the outside distractions.
If you want to go deeper, youcan go into a darkness retreat,
into anything that it's like asense deprivation, right, and
allows you to go deep.
You can go into trance fromdrumming, from, from many
different things.
Um, so it's just anythingliterally, that silence, silence
(37:20):
, retreats.
You're just being in silencefor a few minutes.
Um, there are many, many, manyways.
Just find yours, find the onethat you like.
Start with that.
If it's too heavy, too much foryou, you don't have time.
You have the kids runningaround you don't start with that
If it's too heavy, too much foryou, you don't have time.
You have the kids runningaround, you don't have.
Start with five minutes.
Five minutes every day.
That's it Of whatever resonatesfor you.
Start there, see what happens,see how you're.
(37:42):
Or maybe you just want to startwith a gratitude practice in
the morning.
That's fine.
Find what works for you, butit's an inside job, guys.
That's one of the mostimportant things to remember.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, an example.
Sometimes I like to getexamples of practical things
that we live in Because it'seasier for the ego to comprehend
.
Knowledge has to be dogmaticbecause it needs to.
(38:16):
The ego needs to realize, needsto have vocabulary, needs to
have concepts.
And then, okay, but imagineyourself.
All you need to do is imagineyourself in a lowrider 1980s,
(38:38):
1990s lowrider, with a bunch ofbass in the back, okay, and you
have the volume all up andyou're driving by the street and
there's people calling you outhey, come by.
You can't listen you.
Just what I'm saying, saying isbecause that noise is so
constant and so loud withinourselves, our own thoughts,
(38:59):
that we cannot see theopportunities arise.
We'll pass by.
It's like being in a concertand it's too loud and you come
out and you can't hear very well.
Meditation is only loweringthat knob, that radio or that
music.
It could be like I say very, itcould be an instant, two
(39:24):
seconds, because, remember, assoon as you able to lower the
thinking, you're there.
To lower the thinking, you'rethere.
One of the key things that'svery powerful is we use
visualization, but then that'safter we realize the power of it
(39:49):
, how to use it, and from thathigher state of mind, not from
the noise, because you can usevisualization from the noise,
from the ego.
Remember, the ego is very howwould I say?
It lies to itself completely.
(40:10):
The teacher used to say that inthe 1980s in school they used
to put these round things forthe projector and the slides.
It could build itself as thebiggest mystic or the victim.
It could change.
That's why dieting doesn't workif you're doing it from the ego
perspective, because todayyou're saying one thing and then
(40:30):
the ego changes and tomorrow issomething else.
So the key thing is to be ableto identify within both, because
today you're saying one thingand then the ego changes and
tomorrow is something else.
So the key thing is to be ableto identify within both.
Who are you giving life to?
You know, either ego that'sgoing to drag you, like it's
dragging the world, or you'regoing to go at your own pace
because you have identified ahigher self in you own pace,
(40:56):
because you have identified ahigher self in you.
So two seconds, because as soonas you lower that, you're there
, you're in that moment of peaceand harmony.
Just let it be.
You might have days that youmight need to do that 20 times a
day, and that's fine, okay, themost you use your will.
Very powerful thing.
That's a characteristic of ourhigher self, the will that we're
(41:17):
using all the time.
We're using it all the time butwe don't know we are and it's
dragging us to what the egowants.
The key thing is to be able toidentify and use it for your
higher self.
So the mind and the bodyfollows that higher teacher.
As soon as you do that, youstart living in another way.
(41:42):
Nothing is bad, nothing is good.
It's what you need.
You know, if you need a hammerto wake up, okay, you'm, okay,
I'm gonna be here to send youlight.
So it's very interesting.
It's very important for you toidentify really who you truly
are, truly, truly and I tellpeople you know a lot of people
(42:04):
are like, well, I'm alwaysthinking positive.
And you started with somethingat the beginning saying, uh,
about a book, that's somethingabout the unlimited oh, did I
ever?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
did I ever finish my train of thought on that?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
the zero point okay, the zero point no, zero limits
okay, zero limits.
When you, when we identify thatthinking mind that's out of
control.
Program, the one that tells youdon't go into the beach because
you had a banana and your momtold you 50 years ago that
you're going to have athrombosis because you wait and
(42:38):
you're going into the beach.
You're no longer going to liveyour life based on you know,
either a clergy, nothing.
You're going to be your higherself.
Even if you go to the doctorand tell you you're going to die
in five months, it's not goingto happen.
It's true power and, like I saythat power, it brings a very.
(43:03):
How can I say it's very?
It comes to the individualresponsibility.
That's why sometimes we sayit's not for everybody, because
not everybody's ready to leaveeverything behind.
Leave all your luggage.
What I mean by luggage?
I mean your name, what you dofor a living, all your
programming, all the stickerswhen somebody comes to you, how
(43:26):
they see you or how you seeyourself.
You have to let all that thatgo.
That's synonymous to sound onthe speakers programming.
All you're doing is lower andall that so you could hear that
higher self.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
That's unlimited so we have a meditation, if I may
interrupt for a moment um, and alot of in our breathwork events
, um, we start off by saying,okay, so we're going to peel all
the layers of ourselves andwe're just going to throw it in
the most vibrant fire you canthink of, right, and we start
peeling off being male, female,your religion, your race, being
(44:03):
a mother, a daughter, being yourprofession, and the
visualization we guide themthrough is just to take out all
these layers and put them in thefire and we, after naming many
layers, we go and just finishand staying like you see a
second sun, like a ball of fire,just the essence of your soul,
(44:27):
chi, prana, energy, you know,and just at your core, right,
and from there we can have abeautiful journey, but we have
all these programming, all thesemasks that have helped us to
survive, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's needed.
If you don't have thatprogramming, you cannot.
Pero le dije y el momento quela moto no te arranque.
¿qué pasa?
Bueno, eso es todo lo que pasacuando tú pones todo, when you
put all your marbles in theexternal world, in the vision
(45:04):
that keep in mind, what you saidis completely, at least to me,
it's a truth, a higher truth.
All we perceive outside is whatyou have.
Like my grandmother used to say, it's a projection.
You know, we used to tell mygrandmother, listen, that person
(45:27):
is a thief.
And they used to tell me what?
No, he's not a thief.
Why?
Because that wasn't within her.
You just tell me what?
No, he's not a thief.
Why?
Because that wasn't within her.
You're seeing the thief becauseyou have that feeling within
yourself.
You're able to do that also.
So you don't like it inyourself and you hate it outside
.
But really, everything external, it's a means to come and bring
(45:50):
that responsibility towards you.
We were saying that about thejourney, okay, and the great
teachers used to say that thewhole purpose of God creating
the material world was for notone soul to be left behind.
(46:14):
However, god doesn't haveanything to do with your journey
.
Okay, you are that, that is.
You're also god, seeing himselffrom that perspective.
So you could change the journey, you could change your journey,
(46:35):
but the outcome is always goingto be the same we're always
going to get there.
So that means that you couldlive incarnation after
incarnation, going away fromyour past.
That is only one path foreverybody.
It's reminding who we truly areand who are, what our natural
(46:59):
essence is, and live there.
We will all realize that at onepoint, some will take thousands
of incarnations, some will takeless, but that's the thing.
You could change the journey,you could change the path, you
could give it colors, but at onepoint you're gonna get back in
(47:19):
line.
So if, from this aspect, youget used to not giving so much
power to the vision but to thefeeling, meditation should be
about feeling, not seeinganything Okay, because your ego
could play tricks on you.
That's right.
So once you get to identifythat true voice that's not even
(47:46):
a voice, it's just a uh-huhmoment everything goes in order.
So what I'm saying is we havedifferent journeys and everybody
chooses differently, but at theend we will all get there.
Some all beat up.
That's what we don't want.
Pain, suffering through thepolarities and one straight, you
(48:07):
know through Malkuth, you knowthe kingdom, you know that's in
correspondence, we'll get there,you know it's in the same line.
So that's what we want to be,and that becomes effortless.
Now what's hard is thatnobody's there.
Because I've come across manyfriends, family, and they're
(48:29):
like well, I don't look atnegative stuff, I want to look
at only positive.
And I tell you well, you'resetting yourself for failure
because that unlimited one couldobserve everything, could
observe the most horrible thing,but you're not attached to it,
you observe it like from adistance, like you're sitting on
(48:52):
a movie theater watching.
So when you only put yourattention In one polarity, in
the positive, like, a lot ofpeople are like Well, only
affirmation, all positive, oh, Idon't want to see TV, I don't
want to see this, don't tell meabout this You're bringing the
other polarity without knowing.
My teachers would say Becareful.
Be careful Because when?
(49:18):
Be careful?
Because when you're asking andyou sit with happiness and you
want happiness, automaticallysadness sits across the because.
Yeah, god's laws, this materialworld is polarized.
It's polarity, negative andpositive.
People have positive as a goodthing and negative as a bad.
We need to start seeing asenergy.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Your body's negative.
Your higher self or your spiritis positive.
The mind is like a middle.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's all balance yin-yang.
Coming back to that becomingthe observer.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
But at one point or another, you have to leave
everything external behind,because that's what happens when
we all leave this realm.
So that's when it comes die soyou could truly live.
You don't have to wait 10minutes before you pass to
realize, when the ego just comesdown because he knows what's
(50:12):
coming and then you realize, oh,oh, my God, it was here and now
.
Instead of all this sound,instead of just concentrating on
the positive or I could observeall that is true freedom,
because nothing moves you.
And that doesn't mean that youdon't have compassion Actually,
you have a lot of compassion andyou start working with the
(50:34):
people around you you know thenucleus, your family.
Start working with the peoplearound you you know the nucleus,
your family, that are actuallythe people are.
Have that how can I say?
Align with your karma and yourmission, not out there, it's
really your nucleus, you know,and just by being the best of us
, without one word, being inthat state of harmonium, you're
(51:00):
already helping tremendously.
I'm sorry, and I'll give you anexample.
Back in the day, scientific got,went to an island and picked up
a monkey.
You know a race of monkeys andthey showed that in an island.
(51:21):
They show those monkeys how toclean the potatoes before they
ate it, what happened?
The whole monkeys around earthstarted cleaning the potatoes.
So there's no separation,there's a cosmic consciousness
that's in awe.
So sometimes, by us doing thework, we don't have to worry
(51:42):
about it.
Everything is being and we'rebringing everything to a higher
level of consciousness and, likeI say, it's simple.
The only one that wants tocomplicate is the ego.
So it's just identifying thoseaspects of yourself and do a
(52:04):
true how can I say como dijeahorita un propósito?
To say to yourself, I'm goingto identify this, both aspects
of me, and I'm going to, at onepoint, once I identify it, I'm
going to live in order with thelaws.
And from there now, wheneverybody's screaming and happy,
(52:28):
you're in peace and you're inharmony.
When everybody's sad and Idon't know what to do, you're in
peace and you're in harmony.
When everybody's sad and Idon't know what to do, you're in
peace and you're in harmony.
That's true.
That's true power.
That's true power and itdoesn't lie.
It does and it doesn't, but itdoesn't really truly lie in the
external world.
It's all within ourselves.
(52:48):
The external world should beonly a reminder of who we truly
are.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Thank you for sharing all of this wisdom with us.
Thank you for being a guest.
And before we kind of getcaught off here in the ending of
this episode.
I would like to know what thismeans for you.
The symbol.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, the circle means representing the ongoing,
okay, the circle of life, theongoing death and the continuum,
because really there's no death.
Okay, the mystic knows thateven in the dream state you're a
continuum.
Okay, so, basically, thecontinuum, uh, the triangle
(53:31):
facing down is the spiritualworld, okay, that's why, in some
symbols that you see theilluminati, you know that it's
all being confused by the ego,because there is an illuminati
but it has been confused thethose dark ego entities.
(53:54):
One of the things that they dois how to distort things, how to
distort the purity of thesymbol.
So you would not know.
So that's why the only symbolicis the spiritual world.
When you see a triangle facingdown, it's the spiritual world.
When you see it facing up, it'sthe spiritual world.
(54:14):
When you see it facing up, it'sthe material world.
Why the Illuminati has the eye,the unseen eye, meaning it's a
good thing and a bad thing.
That's why nothing is anextreme, nothing is black or
white, because that mightrepresent that, the unseen, you
realizing who you truly are andliving correspondence in the
(54:37):
material world.
The other way is, basically youin a conscious level of state
of consciousness in thespiritual world.
That's what it is.
That's why the, the symbol, um,the jewish?
That's really not.
That doesn't even come from theJewish, they've gotten from
there.
But it comes even further fromthe Autantian times and what it
(55:01):
represents is both the harmonybetween the two polarities.
That's all it is.
It doesn't pertain to theJewish or to this or to that.
It's all been confused in someways.
There's all that has a lot moresymbolism and a lot simpler
explanation to it.
Uh, the other is my teacher, andjust the fact that that's a
(55:26):
reminder and, um, yeah, that'swhat it is.
It's harmony with the spiritualworld.
It's not really.
You know, a lot of people tellme well, you know, I want to
live to the countryside, I don'twant to the spiritual world.
It's not really.
You know, a lot of people tellme well, you know, I want to
live to the countryside, I don'twant to live in this realm.
It's so dense.
Well, our key is not to moveaway.
Our key is not to go to themountains, guys.
(55:47):
Our key is to be a teacher inthe city, being able to flow
where density is not escapingfrom it.
Everybody wants to escape fromit.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You know Now that you say that I've been so I work
with a lot of Not onlypsychedelics but other
non-psychedelic plants Likebowing sauna and just many
different ones Okay.
And a lot of these plants areteachers.
When you meditate and connectwith the spirit of the plant,
they have a lot of beautifulteaching and um.
(56:18):
I was connecting with spirulina, which is the one I'm working
on uh with right now, and one ofthe big teachings and reminders
is plant uh, grow where you'replanted, which goes right along
with that um.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
People don't realize that in the seed, you have the
tree, you have the fruit, youhave the leaves and you have the
roots.
So it's basically everything isalready.
We are that seed.
It's what you surround yourself.
As a fertilizer, nothing is bad.
You could be the worst, it'sjust going to take you longer.
(56:56):
As a fertilizer, nothing is bad.
You could be the worst, it'sjust going to take you longer.
That's all Not a bad thing, butwe're here to share and to
especially for each one of us toreally truly get to identify
what our individual mission isand, eventually, what our group
mission is.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Thank you, Javier.
A pleasure to have you SameThank you very much.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Thank you for your invite and thank you, pablo.
Thank you, thank you, guys.
Thank you Bye.
Javier, welcome to Quantum Alchemist Podcast.
Wait, do you want to do it inEnglish or in Spanish?
Most of our podcasts are inEnglish.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We could do it in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We could do a little Spanglish or you know, however
it flows.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And you know what?
We're going to keep this inthere.
We're not going to cut it out.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is how we mastermind.
The podcast is very organic.
It's really conversation andtea.
There's not much more to itgetting to know beautiful souls
that come into the space thatsomehow, although we're all
connected, it's just divinetiming as well.
Right, because I've heard aboutyou.
Um, I saw you on a podcast herewith paulo.
(00:39):
Paulo come over, say hi.
Um, this is my dear friend,pablo.
This is his studio, by the way,where I record a lot of the
courses, a lot of the podcaststuff here.
Thank you, pablo, for the space.
Appreciate you very much.
He's also producer.
He does a lot of our of ouraudios, meditations and stuff
like that.
So if you ever need it, reachout to pablo, I'll put them
(01:01):
below as well.
So I came around your book and apodcast episode you did with
Pablo.
Like no, pablo, how long?
Like six months, eight months,yeah, more or less.
And right away it caught myattention his poetry.
I said no, I have to read it.
I have to read it.
And it caught my attention thesymbol that he has outside his
book, because this is the symbolthat represents my soul.
(01:23):
It's a sacred geometry and Iwas like, very interesting.
Whenever I see him, I'm goingto ask him about that symbol as
well, and I kept that there.
I came here, did many sessionsin my course, didn't think about
it and I don't remember howexactly it happened.
I asked Pablo, pablo, let mehave his number.
I don't know.
Like two weeks ago, I don'tknow.
Let me have his number.
I don't know, like two weeksago, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
More or less?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I just reached out to him out of the blue.
He doesn't know me in thisincarnation yet up until today,
and here we are, so it's really,really a wonderful
synchronicity.
I'm honored to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Can't wait to hear your story.
Thank you very much for youropportunity and to be able to
share, and thank you for thespace, pablo, you know I
appreciate it.
So, yeah, all is in order.
You know, in the true flow ofthings, when we are in harmony
(02:26):
with all that is, everythingcomes together in a perfect
dance.
So it's just being able to beaware, to live it.
You know, because the key isnot to stay in the intellect but
to bring it to the practice.
And I'm basically, like mygreat teacher said, once you
(02:50):
realize, live, live in orderwith those laws that represent
God, that represent the universe, represent the universe.
So I would like to thank you,and thank you and all those that
(03:11):
have made it happen for you tobe here, for us to be here.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So, thank you so much .
So I would love to get to knowyou on a deeper level, even your
childhood, like where you'refrom, a little bit about your
childhood and pretty much kindof like your hero's journey,
whatever you feel like sharingand how you got to where you are
today.
As a matter of fact, I don'teven know what you do.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So if you just want to tell us something, well, I
could start with the rememberingas being maybe six years old
and laying in.
I was born in Cuba, um came tothe States.
My parents brought me, uh, in1983, I was nine years old, Uh,
(03:55):
but I, uh, I lived those nineyears, uh, those nine years, in
a state that I could recallinfinite.
When I say that is my mostprecious moments or memories
come from me and I probably feela lot of us have done that,
(04:19):
okay, but to me it was areminder of what I was looking
for, and I remember sitting inmy parents' house in Cuba and I
would be not sitting but layingin the floor, okay, and just
looking outside without nothinking whatsoever.
It was just a moment of ah.
(04:42):
It was an aha moment.
There was no, no tension, therewas actually the whole sound
just diminished, and that stayedin my mind for many years.
For many years I was luckyenough to have been accompanied
by a great teacher, my brother,and he, I think he was more
(05:06):
aware, you know, in thisincarnation, and he was one of
those that reminded me, or keptit alive, that there was other
things, more than what we wereable to perceive with our five
senses.
So that state of uh-huh that Ijust described to you guys stay
(05:27):
with me.
For up to now and throughout myyears I have come to the
realization, through what I callthe hammer, to realize that
there has to be another way, asimpler way.
So I started researching.
(05:51):
Of course I went through whatthey call dark nights of the
soul and I guess at thebeginning I didn't take it real
like for real.
You know, this will also pass.
(06:12):
But then I saw myself again inthose moments and at one point
in my life I said I made a, a, Imade myself a.
How do you say A stamp?
What was all this if we werehere just to live and be and
that the question of God is badis good.
(06:50):
Look at everything that ishappening.
And then I made an infiniteproposal, not only for this
physical plane.
Wherever I was aware of, Iwould always get those questions
(07:14):
and that realization.
So from that moment, well, Idid my things.
I studied art.
What kind of art.
Multimedia de todo tipo de arte.
Eso fue high school time.
Tuve oportunidades de poder ira Francia scholarships, Eso en
(07:37):
89.
Y bueno, por una razón u otra,no lo cogí.
No, no, Sentía el arte, perodecía bueno.
Veía a las personas que estabanviniendo.
I didn't take it.
I felt the art, but I saw thepeople who were coming from
Europe.
In reality, they weren't livingit and I said, well, I need to
(08:03):
do something.
That is a little mystical.
Without knowing it, I alwaystook myself to look for human
behavior.
So I entered psychology.
I entered psychology from themost subtle aspect to the most
drastic aspect.
What I'm telling you is that,from family counseling up to
(08:25):
state hospital clients, Peoplewith incredible karma, so I
could see a spectrum in my lifeof what is the subtlety of human
law, and that reminded me ofhow important it was.
Y eso me dio una gran merecordó que era lo importante.
(08:46):
Y desde ahí cogí el arte comoun hobby Y entonces le puse.
I put my attention in thepsychology or psychiatry.
About 30 years later, I decidedthat that was really something
that I needed to leave behind.
Why?
Because I saw this movement inpsychology and psychiatry, that
(09:09):
it was basically one of thoserevolving doors.
You know that left out the mostimportant thing, and that is,
keep in mind.
Right now, in the psychologyfield they're introducing a
little more of mysticism andspiritualism in that arena.
(09:31):
But back when I was, it was verymundane.
It was many treating thesymptom but not the cause.
So at that moment I was goingthrough some things.
At that moment I was goingthrough some things, I left all
that, the career, behind, and Iagain came to the crossroads and
I made again a choice to giveall my attention to a true
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knowledge what had brought peacein my life, what had brought a
paradise in my life.
And that doesn't mean thatthings were okay because people
perceive like, oh, you're inparadise, so everything is fine.
No, what that truly means isthat you're such peace with
yourself.
You understand why thingshappen, you understand how the
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laws of the universe work andwhy somebody's suffering and the
other one's not.
So that brings you to a higherself of awareness and that
brings peace within you.
It might sound a littleegotistic to say well, that you
know you're in a different level, but it's not.
It's basically a fact.
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You know, throughout my years Ialways what kept me was that
child, that inner teacher thatstill did not have the vehicle
or the programming to expresshimself okay in this realm, but
it was already connecting to theall in that floor, just in a
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state of meditation, what I feelI call it, and it was natural.
So I felt that that wassomething very powerful and I
tried to imitate that throughthe years.
And I found a great teacher inmy life by the name of Santiago
Aranei, un maestro ascendido,and for some reason I started
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paying attention.
I started paying attention andI started taking his
introductions to this knowledge.
That is a knowledge that comesfrom, it's a pure knowledge that
comes from the old.
It's the original old Egyptianstudies, Okay, and that comes
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beyond, in the Atlantean times,but it was more developed and
put into lessons in the Egyptiantimes.
Of course, not for the masses.
This was something like it'snow.
It was something that verylittle people looked for.
So I was blessed to be able toremind myself through that
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studies, and not only throughthe studies but to the practice.
Uh, this knowledge is, uh isintroduced with very simple
techniques, very simpletechniques, uh, and that's why
it's hard.
It becomes hard because the egoalways wants to complicate
(12:43):
things.
It wants to always.
It cannot be that simple, itcannot be just, it has to be
more.
So I went through all thestudies.
I was blessed to be able to getinitiated in the highest levels
(13:04):
, get initiated in the highestlevels, and I was given the
opportunity in the past years tobe able to share that knowledge
.
It's not for everyone, it's forthose that are seeking something
extremely pure.
You know about helping.
We need to be very sure thatthat's truly what we're doing
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Because, remember, sometimes wehave, you know, beings that are
there and they need help.
But we need to realize that bytaking away the lesson or the
karma that they have createdfrom themselves Okay, we're
noising, they have created fromthemselves Okay, we're noising,
but if we come and just take itaway, what you're creating is
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more habit along the line forthat individual or that soul,
Because it's not going to clearthe karma, it's just going to
make it better.
If we all know, whenever wehaven't really seen an issue and
we haven't really reflected onit and somebody just oh, your
mom helped you and or yourbrother and everything, you find
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yourself in that position.
Worst, maybe in two days ormaybe in 10 years, yes, so
discernment needs to be key, youknow?
Uh, so it's important.
It's important In this sense ofthis journey.
It's basically our whole workis to introduce this knowledge
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that all it does is it remindsyou of all the levels of
existence within yourself.
Okay, how the universe works,how the universe of God works,
how man's mind body.
It's very complete.
We go from the self, from themicrocosmos into the macrocosmos
(14:55):
.
Okay, Like I say, this journey,or this study of this knowledge
, what we call it's verycomplete.
You know, it's not for you toif you want to, yes, go out
there, but it's basically foryou to find yourself within the
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universe and at one point you'regoing to find out that you are
that universe, you know.
So, yeah, yeah, so by simple, uh, like I say it's, it's an
individual journey.
It's an individual journey.
I call it because I was talkingabout the polarity a little.
We're going back and forth but,um, I see a lot of.
(15:39):
I try to stay away from a lotof external stimuli when it
comes to realizing.
I'm not saying the external isbad, I'm not saying it's bad to
meditate on a flower, no, butyou have to prepare yourself for
what we're getting Tounderstand.
What are you doing?
Because you might be imaginingand not visualizing, two
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different things.
Okay, imagination I'll give youan example is you're driving
home and you're imagining you'regoing to have an ice cream cone
.
You can still drive.
Visualization.
You can't do that while you'redriving.
You're going to crash, becausevisualization is you're
projecting your consciousnessthat all it is.
You're projecting yourconsciousness that all it is in
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the universe is consciousness inthat moment in time.
So you cannot be driving.
So it's important to to prepareyourself intellectually and
spiritually for that awakeningthat it's only the first step.
Everybody's looking forenlightenment and they don't
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realize it's the first step.
Why?
Because the true step is how tostay here, how to live with
enlightenment.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know Rem does.
He's done so many, he had doneso many trips with LSD and all
these, all these things.
And he was just saying, afterdoing all of this, for for this
many years it was all about thehere and now.
And all the great sagesthroughout time have realized
the Buddha, sitting under thetree right he was carrying two
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buckets of water got enlightened.
What did he do?
Come back to the here and now,grab the tree right, he was
carrying two buckets of water,got enlightened.
What did he do?
Come back to here now, grab thebuckets.
Kept going.
So it's how we embody, how weanchor, how we integrate all of
this enlightenment.
And for me, enlightenment to meis love is really just love.
There's no separation oranything, it's just love.
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A person who lives, who's verypoor, who has no certificates,
who opens their home to you witha lot of beautiful love and
receives you and gives you somuch love, to me that is the
same as anybody who has whatevercertification and whatever
amount of money.
So to me, enlightenment is justoperating from love and
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embodying love, sharing thatwith others and being more in
alignment with your higher self,with your soul, with whatever
it is.
But it's all in the here andnow, but once you, I think, also
our questions and our quest tolook outside.
Whether you do plant medicine,meditation, whatever you do, um,
we'll eventually kind of circlearound.
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From my perspective, which isever-changing, I you know, um,
it could be different fromeverybody, but in my opinion it
has brought me back to the now,to this moment.
the great teachers, uh, from theancient egypt used to say so I
totally we had to stop the twotechnical issues and we went off
(18:53):
rambling about alchemy andabout the inner work and all
these things.
But, as you were mentioningthis pure teaching that you were
initiated in, carry on.
So what if someone wanted to toreach out to you and find out
more?
We're going to put it in thedescription, maybe your email or
however they can reach out.
Um, is this something thatyou're able to share with others
that are ready, that are open,or I believe in the law of
(19:16):
correspondence okay soeverything is in order.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's something that has not been given to the world
in mass.
Okay, it's something that'svery because, like I say, those
teachers in the past knew whatwas going to happen in every
area, the energy, how everythingwas manifest.
So they kept this very hiddenfrom the masses, how everything
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was manifest.
So they kept this very hiddenfrom the masses.
I only gave how can I say opento that knowledge to those that
were truly seeking how?
By initiations, by being proven, you know, by being proven.
So, yeah, I mean, at thismoment, we started sharing this
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knowledge.
Actually, it's in Spanish, okay, okay, it's in Spanish.
There's 10 levels and eachlevel is a realm of existence.
It's at least in my experience,and I have not only put my
(20:28):
attention in one knowledge, butI have, throughout my life, I
have seen, and by the work of mygreat teacher, he simplified
everything and noticed thatthere was a line between all
religions and all concepts thatcross themselves, and that's
what was given to those thatseek the truth back in the
ancient times in the schools.
(20:51):
We meet once a week in theHoliday Inn Express in Airport
Lagoon for about an hour.
It's seven o'clock to eighto'clock um.
This is not a church.
This is not it's you go there.
All we ask is a 12 donationjust because we need to rent the
(21:14):
space.
That's it.
I don't lucrat, I don't, Idon't charge for this.
The day that I do is the daythat I stopped doing it, you
know.
So I don't.
This is not something to, um,you know, I'll say a form of, uh
, economical sustent.
Not at all.
It's just uh, uh, a mission andum.
(21:37):
So you go, you sit down, youhear a class and then you just
go.
We'll do a meditation, we'll dothe practices of the exercise
that it's giving, like it wasgiven back in the days, and you
go home and you practice.
It's an individual journey.
If you stop going, nobody callsyou.
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It's such an individual thatthat's why this knowledge is not
for everybody, because it's you.
It's actually a study to becomea spiritual teacher, not based
on anything external, but how,diablo y el hombre Dios
(22:28):
Identificarlo y saber dóndevivir Y que no nos arrastres?
So once you identify thosepolarities between ourselves,
then we could sit in the middleand observe and from that aspect
you're going to be able to flow, you're going to be able to
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truly live, not just speak of it, but truly live paradise,
because you'll be more comodecía Maestro, how the teacher
said, said you could see thingscoming ahead of time because
with this study is a veryorganized and it's in order and
(23:14):
basically what it does is itdoesn'tgrams you Okay.
It's basically an understandingof stop living through the idea
of the mind and what everybodyhas said in the past and still
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living and start living throughyour higher self.
You stop following no matterwhat anybody says.
That's when you become thesalmon.
You go against the current andeverybody's saying go here, go
here, for you there's something.
And when you start living likethat, out of the blues, you
don't have to say much.
People out of the blues justsay what, what are you doing?
(23:59):
What you know, what are youdoing?
What you know?
What are you up, what's goingon?
So it becomes, it simplifies alot of things.
So that's our mission.
We do that every Thursday.
So the ones that are, welcomeyou know, they're welcome to
come and enjoy us every Thursdayat 7, 7 to 8 at the Holiday Inn
Express by the airport.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
We'll put the description below on the on the
show notes how you guys can cancontact him directly.
Um, so I have two things to tokind of deepen in regards to
what you just shared.
One is how have youtransitioned this in your really
close relationships mean yourfamily, your partner, because
(24:43):
coming from a Cuban background Ican relate 100% and later I'll
share a little bit of how myspiritual awakening in my own
journey, how that has kind ofchanged the dynamics in our
family.
It's a ripple effect, right,they see the change in you, they
start asking you questions andbut once again we come back to
the same thing.
You can't take the horse, forceit to drink water Same thing.
(25:05):
So I'm just very curious as tohow this changed within yourself
.
I was given a map ofconsciousness by my guides and
I'll share it with you.
Really, the ending of that isself-reflection and then that
connects to the superconsciousness and in the end,
but it's all about us, it's notoutside of us.
(25:26):
So how has this inner change inour work reflected on your
close circle?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
First of all, there's something that needs to be, I
guess, mentioned, and it's thefact that, when you're going to
start this journey ofremembering, I don't think we
need to learn anything, I thinkit's just basically remembering.
Okay, you need to prepare, weneed to prepare ourselves,
because too much light couldblind you.
(25:56):
Okay, so what I mean is youneed to prepare your vehicle,
your body, okay, your mind andthe spirit.
It needs to be prepared becauseyou're going to show yourself
certain things that, like youmentioned, not everybody's there
, and, remember, people callenlightenment.
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You know what enlightenment is?
Living the world behind,because you stop acting, you
stop acting, you stop feeling,you start living in a complete
different realm Because, keep inmind, all of the realms are
here, all of the planes, thismaterial world is a spiritual
world.
Why?
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Because all it exists is energy.
So, being that said, you haveto prepare yourself to the fact
that nobody's going tounderstand you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And be at peace with that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So there's a word called permit.
You need to permit to be thatway.
By actually not saying anythingand be vibrating in peace and
in harmony, you might be showinga lot of people around you what
they, once, before they evenincarnated, were looking for.
That's why they came to ourfamily.
(27:14):
Okay, uh, keep in mind, the egodoesn't like to see those
things and that's why the mysticneeds to, needs to.
It actually changes and itgives a lot more power to the
silence, because it understandsthat you cannot.
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It has to be an individualsearch.
It has to be individual want.
If not, it's not going to work.
In all our lives we had manysituations of people giving you
things without you working.
You take it for granted, youthrow it away around the corner.
So this is something that needsto be put.
It needs to be individual.
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When you realize that there'sno tension, when you realize
that there's no tension, youknow there's a difference
between the mind and the higherself, and this is one of the big
errors of humanity.
Humanity thinks they're theirmind and their mind is actually
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a vehicle.
That's it.
It's a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Actually, if I may interrupt you there for a moment
, we're really consciouslyoperating at 5%.
95% of that is yoursubconscious and your
unconscious, Aside from infiniteplanes of existence, dimension,
your higher self havingmultiple experiences as a
fractal of your higher self, andso on.
We're not going to complicateit too much, but all those
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infinite multi-layered of thismultidimensional biegwe that we
are are all here in the here andnow.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Where we want to be, where you want to be.
Do you want to play and livewith the hammer all the time in
the polarities?
What I mean by the polaritiesis the mundane God's when he
created the universe, thematerial universe, because God's
universe has always existed.
It's infinite.
We're talking about thematerial.
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It was polarized, god polarizeditself.
Okay, and either you live in thepolarities, el cachumbambé
cubano here and there here andthere, through hits, through
pain, through suffering, throughthe hammer that I call it, or
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you observe in both, you learnhow to observe both without
tension, and you're going to beable to discern where you need
to go.
So, going back to the family,you're going to find yourself
around people that the ego, oncethey see light, or all this
(30:01):
divine, or this harmony, or thispeace within themselves, if
they don't have the tools to getthere, they're going to try to
fight it.
So what I'm saying is it's okay, Even if it's your family, just
by being in harmony withyourself, not pushing anything
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to anywhere, you're doing themission Because it's a reminder
to them.
They might not like it, theymight get you out of your life,
okay, but that's what you need,that's what everything is
corresponding.
So when you live this life, youunderstand that everything
flows and there's no bad or good.
It's just what we all need torealize how to truly live.
(30:46):
So, by my new techniques, I'mtalking about two minutes, two
minutes, I remember.
You know, sometimes they tellme well, I'm going in a trip to
the Himalayas, I'm going to pay$20,000.
And I say, okay, you want to dothat, that's fine, there's no
(31:07):
bad or good, but you have it allright here.
Remember what is meditation?
Meditation is basically beingable to lower the volume of the
mind of the thinking.
Okay, because all thinking isprogramming.
To lower the volume of the mindof the thinking.
Okay, because all thinking isprogramming.
What I mean by programming issomething that somebody already
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thought of.
Okay, you're just repeating it,no matter if it sounds, if it
tastes good, no matter if it'spositive.
You know, don't matter.
Illusion could be positive too.
You know.
Remember that once you tune outall that programming that people
(31:54):
don't even know they'rethinking because it's 24-7.
Once they identify that andthey could bring it down just by
using very simple exercises,you start hearing your true self
and from that aspect, you don'thave to think about living
anymore, you just kind of live.
You know, many times we've gonethrough issues like driving and
(32:18):
something just tells you gothrough here, and we never
listen to that guy, we neverlisten to that intuition, we
always no the thinking and thenwe'll go.
Oh, so when I mean true living,I mean el cachumambe.
The ego is no longer in the high.
You're using the mind to be asource of divine manifestation
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by your higher self, not yourlower self, your life starts
changing completely.
But when I say change, it's nothow the ego perceives change,
because for the ego, change isalways something good.
You know, it might be not thatgood, but that's what we all
(33:06):
need to be able to.
Okay, this is not where I'm at,this is where I need to be.
So don't tense yourself as soonas you tell yourself okay,
people are not understanding me,people don't see this as
(33:26):
something that it's with them,it's fine, let it be.
Just concentrate in your innerand everything will fall like
the domino into place.
Okay, and like I was saying,remember that time and space is
an illusion.
Not because it doesn't exist.
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Okay, people think that youknow, there's always two
languages, there's a spirituallanguage and there's the People
think when they say an illusion,it's because it doesn't exist.
It exists because when you havea toothache, you have to go to
a doctor.
It's painful.
So it does exist.
What is an illusion is that ourperspective of what time and
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space is is not what it is.
So, because when you lower thethinking that works with time
and space, you lower it, youstart hearing your higher self.
Okay, in that state of no, itbecomes no time and space, it
becomes infinite.
So you don't need to do, andI'm not saying this is bad or
(34:31):
good, I'm just saying you don'tneed to do meditation for an
hour.
You don't need to do, and I'mnot saying this is bad or good,
I'm just saying you don't needto do meditation for an hour.
You don't need to do yoga fortwo hours.
Just that you go into that,that you're able to identify the
thinking first and lower itgives you paradise.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Do you think we can share with our listeners a
couple of tips.
I'll start, if that's okay, allright.
So I've done a lot oftechniques um to to quiet the
outside distractions and gowithin um, one being meditation.
My meditations always vary itcould be a five minute
(35:07):
meditation, it could be an hourand a half meditation.
I never really know um goinginto it.
I give myself enough time, butI really don't know what's going
to happen in my meditation.
And everybody meditatesdifferently.
I want to point that outbecause his meditation could
look completely different frommine.
Some people may be able to justbe in that blank space, what I
(35:29):
call the space between the space, and that's beautiful.
That's fine.
If it works for you, it's great.
Some people see thoughtsflowing like clouds.
That's great too.
There's no right or wrong way tomeditate or to do any of these
practices.
It's very individual.
You have to play with it to seewhat it feels like for you.
For me, when I go into deepstates of meditation, my third
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eye opens and I see everythinglike a movie.
So for me it's very different.
It may be different from him,it may be different from you.
Maybe you're someone who feels,who feels lighter, who feels
just like stress is lifting outof your body, or many, many
other different ways.
You could use breathwork.
You could use breathworktechniques that help regulate
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your parasympathetic and bringyou into a rest and digest state
.
Or maybe you want to activateyour sympathetic nervous system
because you want to start withenergy in the morning, and maybe
you like to start with breathof fire or whatever it is for
you right Depending.
By the way, if your nervoussystem is not regulated, do not
start with breath of fire.
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Okay, we want to regulate thenervous system first.
Make sure you're in a safe,stable space before working with
activating breath sequences.
You can go out and walk innature, you can paint, you can
do art, whatever gets you intothat flow state.
You can just go to park and laydown in the grass like go to
the beach, it doesn't reallymatter, it's whatever gets you
(36:57):
to lower, like he was saying,the outside distractions.
If you want to go deeper, youcan go into a darkness retreat,
into anything that it's like asense deprivation, right, and
allows you to go deep.
You can go into trance fromdrumming, from, from many
different things.
Um, so it's just anythingliterally, that silence, silence
(37:20):
, retreats.
You're just being in silencefor a few minutes.
Um, there are many, many, manyways.
Just find yours, find the onethat you like.
Start with that.
If it's too heavy, too much foryou, you don't have time.
You have the kids runningaround you don't start with that
If it's too heavy, too much foryou, you don't have time.
You have the kids runningaround, you don't have.
Start with five minutes.
Five minutes every day.
That's it Of whatever resonatesfor you.
Start there, see what happens,see how you're.
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Or maybe you just want to startwith a gratitude practice in
the morning.
That's fine.
Find what works for you, butit's an inside job, guys.
That's one of the mostimportant things to remember.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, an example.
Sometimes I like to getexamples of practical things
that we live in Because it'seasier for the ego to comprehend
.
Knowledge has to be dogmaticbecause it needs to.
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The ego needs to realize, needsto have vocabulary, needs to
have concepts.
And then, okay, but imagineyourself.
All you need to do is imagineyourself in a lowrider 1980s,
(38:38):
1990s lowrider, with a bunch ofbass in the back, okay, and you
have the volume all up andyou're driving by the street and
there's people calling you outhey, come by.
You can't listen you.
Just what I'm saying, saying isbecause that noise is so
constant and so loud withinourselves, our own thoughts,
(38:59):
that we cannot see theopportunities arise.
We'll pass by.
It's like being in a concertand it's too loud and you come
out and you can't hear very well.
Meditation is only loweringthat knob, that radio or that
music.
It could be like I say very, itcould be an instant, two
(39:24):
seconds, because, remember, assoon as you able to lower the
thinking, you're there.
To lower the thinking, you'rethere.
One of the key things that'svery powerful is we use
visualization, but then that'safter we realize the power of it
(39:49):
, how to use it, and from thathigher state of mind, not from
the noise, because you can usevisualization from the noise,
from the ego.
Remember, the ego is very howwould I say?
It lies to itself completely.
(40:10):
The teacher used to say that inthe 1980s in school they used
to put these round things forthe projector and the slides.
It could build itself as thebiggest mystic or the victim.
It could change.
That's why dieting doesn't workif you're doing it from the ego
perspective, because todayyou're saying one thing and then
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the ego changes and tomorrow issomething else.
So the key thing is to be ableto identify within both, because
today you're saying one thingand then the ego changes and
tomorrow is something else.
So the key thing is to be ableto identify within both.
Who are you giving life to?
You know, either ego that'sgoing to drag you, like it's
dragging the world, or you'regoing to go at your own pace
because you have identified ahigher self in you own pace,
(40:56):
because you have identified ahigher self in you.
So two seconds, because as soonas you lower that, you're there
, you're in that moment of peaceand harmony.
Just let it be.
You might have days that youmight need to do that 20 times a
day, and that's fine, okay, themost you use your will.
Very powerful thing.
That's a characteristic of ourhigher self, the will that we're
(41:17):
using all the time.
We're using it all the time butwe don't know we are and it's
dragging us to what the egowants.
The key thing is to be able toidentify and use it for your
higher self.
So the mind and the bodyfollows that higher teacher.
As soon as you do that, youstart living in another way.
(41:42):
Nothing is bad, nothing is good.
It's what you need.
You know, if you need a hammerto wake up, okay, you'm, okay,
I'm gonna be here to send youlight.
So it's very interesting.
It's very important for you toidentify really who you truly
are, truly, truly and I tellpeople you know a lot of people
(42:04):
are like, well, I'm alwaysthinking positive.
And you started with somethingat the beginning saying, uh,
about a book, that's somethingabout the unlimited oh, did I
ever?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
did I ever finish my train of thought on that?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
the zero point okay, the zero point no, zero limits
okay, zero limits.
When you, when we identify thatthinking mind that's out of
control.
Program, the one that tells youdon't go into the beach because
you had a banana and your momtold you 50 years ago that
you're going to have athrombosis because you wait and
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you're going into the beach.
You're no longer going to liveyour life based on you know,
either a clergy, nothing.
You're going to be your higherself.
Even if you go to the doctorand tell you you're going to die
in five months, it's not goingto happen.
It's true power and, like I saythat power, it brings a very.
(43:03):
How can I say it's very?
It comes to the individualresponsibility.
That's why sometimes we sayit's not for everybody, because
not everybody's ready to leaveeverything behind.
Leave all your luggage.
What I mean by luggage?
I mean your name, what you dofor a living, all your
programming, all the stickerswhen somebody comes to you, how
(43:26):
they see you or how you seeyourself.
You have to let all that thatgo.
That's synonymous to sound onthe speakers programming.
All you're doing is lower andall that so you could hear that
higher self.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
That's unlimited so we have a meditation, if I may
interrupt for a moment um, and alot of in our breathwork events
, um, we start off by saying,okay, so we're going to peel all
the layers of ourselves andwe're just going to throw it in
the most vibrant fire you canthink of, right, and we start
peeling off being male, female,your religion, your race, being
(44:03):
a mother, a daughter, being yourprofession, and the
visualization we guide themthrough is just to take out all
these layers and put them in thefire and we, after naming many
layers, we go and just finishand staying like you see a
second sun, like a ball of fire,just the essence of your soul,
(44:27):
chi, prana, energy, you know,and just at your core, right,
and from there we can have abeautiful journey, but we have
all these programming, all thesemasks that have helped us to
survive, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's needed.
If you don't have thatprogramming, you cannot.
Pero le dije y el momento quela moto no te arranque.
¿qué pasa?
Bueno, eso es todo lo que pasacuando tú pones todo, when you
put all your marbles in theexternal world, in the vision
(45:04):
that keep in mind, what you saidis completely, at least to me,
it's a truth, a higher truth.
All we perceive outside is whatyou have.
Like my grandmother used to say, it's a projection.
You know, we used to tell mygrandmother, listen, that person
(45:27):
is a thief.
And they used to tell me what?
No, he's not a thief.
Why?
Because that wasn't within her.
You just tell me what?
No, he's not a thief.
Why?
Because that wasn't within her.
You're seeing the thief becauseyou have that feeling within
yourself.
You're able to do that also.
So you don't like it inyourself and you hate it outside
.
But really, everything external, it's a means to come and bring
(45:50):
that responsibility towards you.
We were saying that about thejourney, okay, and the great
teachers used to say that thewhole purpose of God creating
the material world was for notone soul to be left behind.
(46:14):
However, god doesn't haveanything to do with your journey
.
Okay, you are that, that is.
You're also god, seeing himselffrom that perspective.
So you could change the journey, you could change your journey,
(46:35):
but the outcome is always goingto be the same we're always
going to get there.
So that means that you couldlive incarnation after
incarnation, going away fromyour past.
That is only one path foreverybody.
It's reminding who we truly areand who are, what our natural
(46:59):
essence is, and live there.
We will all realize that at onepoint, some will take thousands
of incarnations, some will takeless, but that's the thing.
You could change the journey,you could change the path, you
could give it colors, but at onepoint you're gonna get back in
(47:19):
line.
So if, from this aspect, youget used to not giving so much
power to the vision but to thefeeling, meditation should be
about feeling, not seeinganything Okay, because your ego
could play tricks on you.
That's right.
So once you get to identifythat true voice that's not even
(47:46):
a voice, it's just a uh-huhmoment everything goes in order.
So what I'm saying is we havedifferent journeys and everybody
chooses differently, but at theend we will all get there.
Some all beat up.
That's what we don't want.
Pain, suffering through thepolarities and one straight, you
(48:07):
know through Malkuth, you knowthe kingdom, you know that's in
correspondence, we'll get there,you know it's in the same line.
So that's what we want to be,and that becomes effortless.
Now what's hard is thatnobody's there.
Because I've come across manyfriends, family, and they're
(48:29):
like well, I don't look atnegative stuff, I want to look
at only positive.
And I tell you well, you'resetting yourself for failure
because that unlimited one couldobserve everything, could
observe the most horrible thing,but you're not attached to it,
you observe it like from adistance, like you're sitting on
(48:52):
a movie theater watching.
So when you only put yourattention In one polarity, in
the positive, like, a lot ofpeople are like Well, only
affirmation, all positive, oh, Idon't want to see TV, I don't
want to see this, don't tell meabout this You're bringing the
other polarity without knowing.
My teachers would say Becareful.
Be careful Because when?
(49:18):
Be careful?
Because when you're asking andyou sit with happiness and you
want happiness, automaticallysadness sits across the because.
Yeah, god's laws, this materialworld is polarized.
It's polarity, negative andpositive.
People have positive as a goodthing and negative as a bad.
We need to start seeing asenergy.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Your body's negative.
Your higher self or your spiritis positive.
The mind is like a middle.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's all balance yin-yang.
Coming back to that becomingthe observer.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
But at one point or another, you have to leave
everything external behind,because that's what happens when
we all leave this realm.
So that's when it comes die soyou could truly live.
You don't have to wait 10minutes before you pass to
realize, when the ego just comesdown because he knows what's
(50:12):
coming and then you realize, oh,oh, my God, it was here and now
.
Instead of all this sound,instead of just concentrating on
the positive or I could observeall that is true freedom,
because nothing moves you.
And that doesn't mean that youdon't have compassion Actually,
you have a lot of compassion andyou start working with the
(50:34):
people around you you know thenucleus, your family.
Start working with the peoplearound you you know the nucleus,
your family, that are actuallythe people are.
Have that how can I say?
Align with your karma and yourmission, not out there, it's
really your nucleus, you know,and just by being the best of us
, without one word, being inthat state of harmonium, you're
(51:00):
already helping tremendously.
I'm sorry, and I'll give you anexample.
Back in the day, scientific got,went to an island and picked up
a monkey.
You know a race of monkeys andthey showed that in an island.
(51:21):
They show those monkeys how toclean the potatoes before they
ate it, what happened?
The whole monkeys around earthstarted cleaning the potatoes.
So there's no separation,there's a cosmic consciousness
that's in awe.
So sometimes, by us doing thework, we don't have to worry
(51:42):
about it.
Everything is being and we'rebringing everything to a higher
level of consciousness and, likeI say, it's simple.
The only one that wants tocomplicate is the ego.
So it's just identifying thoseaspects of yourself and do a
(52:04):
true how can I say como dijeahorita un propósito?
To say to yourself, I'm goingto identify this, both aspects
of me, and I'm going to, at onepoint, once I identify it, I'm
going to live in order with thelaws.
And from there now, wheneverybody's screaming and happy,
(52:28):
you're in peace and you're inharmony.
When everybody's sad and Idon't know what to do, you're in
peace and you're in harmony.
When everybody's sad and Idon't know what to do, you're in
peace and you're in harmony.
That's true.
That's true power.
That's true power and itdoesn't lie.
It does and it doesn't, but itdoesn't really truly lie in the
external world.
It's all within ourselves.
(52:48):
The external world should beonly a reminder of who we truly
are.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Thank you for sharing all of this wisdom with us.
Thank you for being a guest.
And before we kind of getcaught off here in the ending of
this episode.
I would like to know what thismeans for you.
The symbol.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, the circle means representing the ongoing,
okay, the circle of life, theongoing death and the continuum,
because really there's no death.
Okay, the mystic knows thateven in the dream state you're a
continuum.
Okay, so, basically, thecontinuum, uh, the triangle
(53:31):
facing down is the spiritualworld, okay, that's why, in some
symbols that you see theilluminati, you know that it's
all being confused by the ego,because there is an illuminati
but it has been confused thethose dark ego entities.
(53:54):
One of the things that they dois how to distort things, how to
distort the purity of thesymbol.
So you would not know.
So that's why the only symbolicis the spiritual world.
When you see a triangle facingdown, it's the spiritual world.
When you see it facing up, it'sthe spiritual world.
(54:14):
When you see it facing up, it'sthe material world.
Why the Illuminati has the eye,the unseen eye, meaning it's a
good thing and a bad thing.
That's why nothing is anextreme, nothing is black or
white, because that mightrepresent that, the unseen, you
realizing who you truly are andliving correspondence in the
(54:37):
material world.
The other way is, basically youin a conscious level of state
of consciousness in thespiritual world.
That's what it is.
That's why the, the symbol, um,the jewish?
That's really not.
That doesn't even come from theJewish, they've gotten from
there.
But it comes even further fromthe Autantian times and what it
(55:01):
represents is both the harmonybetween the two polarities.
That's all it is.
It doesn't pertain to theJewish or to this or to that.
It's all been confused in someways.
There's all that has a lot moresymbolism and a lot simpler
explanation to it.
Uh, the other is my teacher, andjust the fact that that's a
(55:26):
reminder and, um, yeah, that'swhat it is.
It's harmony with the spiritualworld.
It's not really.
You know, a lot of people tellme well, you know, I want to
live to the countryside, I don'twant to the spiritual world.
It's not really.
You know, a lot of people tellme well, you know, I want to
live to the countryside, I don'twant to live in this realm.
It's so dense.
Well, our key is not to moveaway.
Our key is not to go to themountains, guys.
(55:47):
Our key is to be a teacher inthe city, being able to flow
where density is not escapingfrom it.
Everybody wants to escape fromit.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You know Now that you say that I've been so I work
with a lot of Not onlypsychedelics but other
non-psychedelic plants Likebowing sauna and just many
different ones Okay.
And a lot of these plants areteachers.
When you meditate and connectwith the spirit of the plant,
they have a lot of beautifulteaching and um.
(56:18):
I was connecting with spirulina, which is the one I'm working
on uh with right now, and one ofthe big teachings and reminders
is plant uh, grow where you'replanted, which goes right along
with that um.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
People don't realize that in the seed, you have the
tree, you have the fruit, youhave the leaves and you have the
roots.
So it's basically everything isalready.
We are that seed.
It's what you surround yourself.
As a fertilizer, nothing is bad.
You could be the worst, it'sjust going to take you longer.
(56:56):
As a fertilizer, nothing is bad.
You could be the worst, it'sjust going to take you longer.
That's all Not a bad thing, butwe're here to share and to
especially for each one of us toreally truly get to identify
what our individual mission isand, eventually, what our group
mission is.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Thank you, Javier.
A pleasure to have you SameThank you very much.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Thank you for your invite and thank you, pablo.
Thank you, thank you, guys.
Thank you Bye.
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