August 12, 2024 • 44 mins
Jillian Acosta, a registered dietitian, specializes in functional medicine and the psychology of eating. Owner of the nutrition private practice, The Root Cause Method, she guides clients towards health and vitality in unconventional ways. Jillian believes many of the chronic illnesses exacerbated by obesity are deeply rooted in trauma. In her practice, she collaborates with physicians who administer ketamine, using this powerful tool as a means to help her clients transform their relationship with food, feelings and Self. Uprooting what shapes our relationship with food is essential, in her experience, for reversing and preventing chronic illness, and can lead to true embodiment, fulfillment, and connection.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi Jillian, welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master
Podcast.
It's a pleasure to have youhere.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank, you so much, I'm so well and I'm so happy to
be here.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Beautiful, so I came across your page.
I was just speaking to hershortly before getting on and I
came across her on Instagram andI absolutely just love her page
.
I love her content.
I think she's bringing a lot oflight and information to things
that not only women but all ofus need in these times, and I
count myself in.
(00:33):
I've been doing a lot ofchanges in my nutrition and with
my hormones, regulating allthat stuff, and going through a
lot of personal changes, so Ifigured it would be great to
have you on so that you can kindof just share you know a little
bit about you, your journey,how you got to where you are
today, and also tell us a littlebit about what it is that you
do, your offerings and so forth.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
I mean, I never know where tostart.
Tell me about yourself.
It feels like such a hard andsimple thing at the same time,
but Tell me about yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It feels like such a hard and simple thing at the
same time, but tell me aboutyour childhood.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We'll start there and then we'll let it unfold.
My childhood was a mess, um, Ithink you know I've always been,
I've always been a seeker and Ispent a lot of time alone as a
child.
There was a lot of complextrauma.
It was a lot of a lot of, youknow, wounding in the household
from very wounded, unconsciousparents, um doing the best that
(01:32):
they could and um, and thatresulted in a in a lot of
conditioning and trauma in mystory.
And I started the path ofpersonal development when I was
around 16 years old.
My mom kind of brought me intoit.
She was moving through it and Iwas so deeply unhappy and so
deep in suffering and I thinkshe recognized that because it
(01:54):
was quite obvious and offered mekind of a way in and from that
moment, although nothing reallychanged in the instant, it put
me on this path of introspectionand discovery and just this
recognition that there wasanother way.
And although I had a lot more, Ithink, suffering to do, I was
(02:19):
on that path and I struggledvery much with an eating
disorder path and I struggledvery much with an eating
disorder.
I had a very distortedrelationship with both food and
my body and my worth and reallyall of it, and my relationship
with food was out of control.
I mean, I started emotionallyeating when I was three years
old, because I was in the midstof such intensity and it was
this incredible distraction,pleasurable experience, escape.
(02:44):
Incredible distraction,pleasurable experience, escape,
you know shift in my internalstate in an instant and it
became the thing that I reachedfor all the time, to the point
where I no longer had access to,or I didn't have access to,
really any other coping tools.
That was the one that was justso predominantly utilized.
So that was the one.
You know, I was struggling withmy body weight and I was
(03:07):
inflamed and I was diagnosedwith gut conditions and thyroid
conditions at a really young ageand had to take an elective in
college, actually an undergrad.
I was studying business and Itook nutrition because it was
like the other ones didn'tinterest me and I was deep in an
eating disorder at that timeand I figured that, you know, if
(03:30):
I learned a little bit aboutnutrition fundamentals, then
maybe I could learn how to beskinny and then I would be happy
, because that's kind of reallywhat we're all fed, no pun
intended.
And so I took it and I lovedthe class and, interestingly, I
was in treatment at the sametime for an eating disorder, and
so I was like learning aboutnutrition while in this
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treatment center for an eatingdisorder and like kind of
comparing and contrasting what Iwas receiving and what I was
learning and experiencing at thesame time.
It was very interesting and Ireally, really I really
understood that it was not aboutthe food that like, even though
I knew what to eat and I wasbeing told what to eat from this
, from this treatment center andfrom school, it had nothing to
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do with what was influencing myfood choices.
And I got really curious andset out on this path of like
well, what is this thing Like?
What is causing this?
What felt like a hijack of mybody?
That like, even though I maynot have like wanted to eat the
(04:34):
entire bag of cookies, there wassomething in me that wanted
nothing else but that Right, andit was like this internal
battle and I'm like what isgoing on and fast forward.
A number of years later, Idiscovered the path of
psychedelics and in an ayahuascaexperience, my story was
revealed to me, which wastotally suppressed from my
(04:56):
memory for over three decades Ihad no idea that the abuse that
I experienced because ofdissociation and all of the
parts of my story and all thepatterning and all the
self-hatred and the ofdissociation and all of the
parts of my story and all thepatterning and all the
self-hatred and the unworthinessand all the things that started
to make sense, and even thoughI could intellectualize it and
make sense of it and understandthe genesis of these behaviors
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and these patterns, it didn'tnecessarily eradicate them.
It didn't really make them goaway.
I really had to go, layer bylayer and through my own process
, somatically into my body, intomy consciousness, start to like
clean house and like deep, deep, program the programming and
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really start to come into thisspace of seeing myself and my
worth and really entering into arelationship with spirit and
the divine and nature and themagic that's all around us.
And in that process I went intosolitude for a number of years
and was in just this cocoon Isee this butterfly behind you
(06:02):
and it was like I was in such acocoon.
It was such a metamorphosis,incredibly extraordinary place.
I was in just this cocoon.
I see this butterfly behind youand it was like I was in such a
cocoon.
It was such a metamorphosis,incredibly extraordinary place I
was in and I started to harvestall this wisdom and all these
gems and and it was just so loudthat, like this is not supposed
to be just for me, this is notjust mine, like I have to.
There are so many people, asyou said, both men, women, all
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humans, that are on this path ofsuffering and dissociation from
their bodies andself-punishment and all the
things, and I think that food isone of the most abused
substances in the world, and sohere I am, talking about it and
hoping that it resonates withpeople and that they can somehow
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find this path ofself-liberation, because really
that's it, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's an inside job.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, always.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So tell me a little bit how you incorporate the
subconscious mind, because Ialways like to share that and I
work, not in nutrition, but verysimilarly, with trauma,
addiction, abuse, all thesethings.
So in the work that we do, thesubconscious mind, you know, has
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a lot to do with these habits,behaviors and all these things.
It's much stronger than ourconscious mind and all these
things it's much stronger thanour conscious mind.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour program, starting with by
the way, I love the name thatyou gave it.
It's very beautiful.
So tell me, walk me a littlebit through that.
How does that look like whensomeone comes in?
(07:37):
Like kind of what layers orkind of touch, without giving
too much away, and just reallyanything you want to share about
how you approach nutritiondifferently.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, cool.
So, first of all, I agree withyou so much that like 95% of our
behavior is driven by thesubconscious mind and that's
also where like trauma lives,and so I like to think of trauma
as like the puppet master andlike we're on the strings and
it's, of course, it's not theonly thing that's in the
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subconscious mind, but it takesup a lot of space Right and and
so if we want to make lastingchange, foundational,
fundamental changes in ourday-to-day behavior, thought
processes, all the things, andit's like we got to look up the
strings and see who's who'smaking us move and what I?
I know that there are manymodalities of, of and ways to
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access subconscious mind,subconscious programming, and
you know, I I happen to like andI'm I'm considering this and
kind of like reframing this, myown journey, that I always say I
like efficiency.
There is a little bit of atendency of like it's not force,
it's definitely not force, butit's just like there's been an
urgency, but part of me thinksthe urgency is actually real
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because we're in this reallycritical time of collective
transition and so there is asense of urgency of people to
kind of wake up and we don'thave the time to go meditate in
the Himalayas for 30 years, likewe.
There is an urgency, and so Ifind that psychedelics are
incredible allies and tools andteachers and guides that can
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bring us right there withefficiency and and in a in a
safe and supportive and gentleand trusting container, so much
transformation becomes possible.
And so you know, the name of mybusiness is the Root Cause
Method, because I really believethat the root cause of chronic
illness is trauma, the rootcause of suffering and weight
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gain and obesity and narcoticaddiction.
It's actually just trauma andpain and all the myriad ways
that we as humans are socreative and trying to
disassociate from the pain, pushthe pain down, self-medicate,
and so the premise of my work isreally helping people to create
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safety within themselves, tofeel, because if we're willing
to feel, whatever it isdiscomfort, grief, pain, sorrow,
anxiety, whatever, then we nolonger need anything, including
food or any other substance tonumb it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No, go ahead please.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I wanted to kind of interrupt you there, because I
was just a guest on a podcasttoday and I mentioned that we
tend and I include myself, I'mnot excluding myself we tend to,
let's just say, this is thedarkness, right, and we tend to
want to go around it above it,however, but through it.
Of it, however, but through it,and that's really that's that's
(10:48):
where a lot of the expansionhappens and that discomfort in
our soul journey of evolution,and it is through our own
challenges.
Right, look at you walking it's.
You just went through, youwalked through the fire, right,
and now you're like all right, Igot you.
Now, come on, I'll walk withyou.
And another thing is we can'tforce anyone to walk through
that fire, right, they can'tforce a horse to drink water.
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We can only offer our support.
Whoever's interested.
Then you know you can walk withthem as far as they want to go.
Right, that's pretty much.
But yeah, I love what you'resaying and sorry I caught you
off, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's okay.
I love what you mentionedbecause you know, I I always say
the darkness is where the rootsgrow Like.
Look at any, most plants haveroot systems underground.
It's like the most like mineralrich, fertile soil, is where,
like things take hold and andand give life.
(11:48):
And you know, especially aswomen, but not only exclusively,
but like, our power is in ourdarkness, like the womb space is
darkness, it's just the mostfertile potential space for
creation and we're taught tofear our darkness.
We're taught to be afraid ofthe dark, to love and light.
(12:10):
And there's great, that's great, but that's half the story.
And our power and our magiccomes from being withholding,
getting well acquainted with,loving our darkness.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We're a full spectrum of light.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, we get to experience all the colors, all
the emotions.
It's a spiral of continuousevolution, continuous awakening,
continuous rebirth.
In my opinion, there is nodeath.
So yeah, absolutely, I lovethat it's so juicy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And so, when you can, when you can cultivate the
safety, when you can helpsomeone feel safe, when you can
feel safe within yourself tofeel your darkness, to feel pain
, grief, whatever, then itbecomes the compost for growth,
it becomes the usable materialfor your own evolution and you
no longer fear it and you're nolonger pushing it away in all
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the creative ways that areactually creating more and more
disconnection from yourself,from your power, from your body,
from your intuition, from yourcreativity, from all the things,
and you're coming into deepwholeness.
But this wholeness is so hugenow, it's so expanded, it's so
magnificent.
This wholeness is so huge now,it's so expanded, it's so
magnificent.
And so, to answer your initialquestion, I have a program
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within my business called theGarden.
Because the Garden, in myperspective, first of all, it's
where I used to lay as a child,in the grass forever and
honestly dissociate from where Iwas.
I would just drown myself inthe incredible, exquisite
patterns of nature.
I would get lost forever and itheld me and it was like, felt
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like.
Every single time I lay on thegrass I cry because it feels
like I'm being hugged from themother.
It just like I'm being so lovedand so held and it's so
beautiful and undeniable and,plus, I'm an earth sign, so I
just like nozzle, but it's anenergetic container where things
grow and transform and andmaterialize.
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And it's not only the things wewant to grow that grow, it's
all things.
And so there's like weeds thatgrow in there and there are kind
of opportunistic, you know,species that that crowd out the
space, and so we're constantlytending, if we're conscious to
our garden and to what's growingand and being intentional with
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what we plant and and and breed,breed life into.
And so it's a 13 week programand it's one-on-one, just me and
the individual.
And in the beginning I beginning, I'm analyzing data.
So it depends on what they cometo me for If there's like
gastrointestinal issues or youknow their symptoms.
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Depending on their symptoms,I'm either analyzing blood
chemistry or stool or driedurine or whatever.
From a functional medicineperspective, I'm a functional
dietitian and I'm creating aprotocol for their unique
physiology.
So, depending on whatever Ifind here's, here's a structure.
It's not a diet or a meal plan,but here's a structure then
which you could follow that willbe really supportive for your
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body and give you kind ofsomething to grab onto.
But when you deviate from thatbecause of patterns of emotional
eating, we literally use it asgold.
It's golden because what itreveals is like insight into
your patterns and your triggersand the nuances and what you
really need, all those kinds ofthings, and so that's.
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That is kind of more technicalin the beginning of the program
and simultaneously I'm gettingto know their story and I'm
getting to know their processand their, their patterning.
And then they sit with ketamine.
They sit with medicine threetimes over the course of of 13
weeks.
Now I'm a big fan of naturallyoccurring substances and I have
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a license and there areliabilities, and so everything
in my practice is above ground.
And so they get a prescriptionfrom a provider for ketamine and
I am holding space and I'mreally intuitive and I'm really
empathic, and so I'm creating anenergetic container for them to
safely experience what themedicine kind of brings forth in
a way that feels navigatablefor them, in a way that feels
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like, you know, they're dippingtheir toes into the waters of
feeling, into the waters of thesubconscious, into kind of
uncharted territory where theycan feel safe and supported and
held in that.
And then we just start tounpack together and so, yeah,
that's how we kind of get intothe subconscious.
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And then I have there's so manyguided.
My work is very experiential.
It's like somewhat conceptual,but I'm really bringing them
into their body in real time and, in that process, giving them
the opportunity to experiencetheir own capacity expanding and
their capacity for feeling.
Cause when you, when theyrealize they they can, they can
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feel something uncomfortable andnot need to like check out with
food or whatever.
They begin to developconfidence in themselves, their
own capacity, self-efficacy.
And then we translate thatoutside of medicine space into
ordinary states of consciousnesswhere something may come up and
all of a sudden it's like, oh,I've been here before, I can
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feel this.
Now I'm not four years oldanymore where it was.
Oh, I've been here before, Ican feel this.
Now I'm not four years oldanymore, where it was too
chaotic and I needed todissociate.
I can actually be with myselfthrough this.
And people have lost upwards of40 pounds in 13 weeks in my
program.
And it's not just about theweight loss and it's definitely
not because of a diet.
It's because they learn how tohold themselves through
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difficult emotion and they're nolonger using food to push it
down.
So the body changes, thephysiology changes.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's beautiful.
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's it.
That's my take on nutrition andwhat I'm doing, and that's one
of my offerings.
There's another one.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Tell us about the other one, and then we'll dive
deeper into this.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Sure.
So.
The other one is calledWildflower, and the premise of
this program it's a groupprogram and it's the premise
really is like finding thebeauty in the weeds.
And wildflowers are technicallyweeds, but they're beautiful
and they grow wildly and untamedand they're so magical and so
it's really about.
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So this is a group program,exclusively for women.
It's a cohort.
The next one's launchingSeptember 10th, so I'm not sure
what time when this podcast willcome out, but the next one is
live September 10th and it's aneight week program for women on
this path and it's all aboutteaching them, guiding them
through experiences andcommunity of women, how to use
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these triggers around food, howto use this distorted
relationship with food toactually help illuminate what it
is they're really seeking, whatthey're really needing in that
moment, so that they can meettheir own needs and they can let
go of the disempoweringpatterns that, like, don't
actually ever work.
And so it's this.
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It's so powerful.
I just closed my, my last one,and it was like there's
something really incredible whenwomen come together in support
of other women Whoa, and likethe willingness to be seen in
your process and be so met withlove, and then hearing your
story come out of the voice ofanother woman and just this
collective community aroundfemale empowerment.
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It's so potent, it's somethingthat the one-on-one work cannot
provide.
It's its own thing.
It's incredible, and so I'mreally excited Because I'm
stepping more and more intogroup work.
I've done public speaking andhosted live like facilitated
live workshops and retreats andthings like that, and the group,
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especially with women, feelsvery clear to me that that's the
next step, that's the nextiteration of my work, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That sounds beautiful .
Yeah, together we candefinitely achieve much more.
So I love your offerings.
It sounds very beautiful andwe'll make sure to get this out.
Actually, I'll.
I'll prioritize.
Noah helps us with all of ourpodcast stuff to bring it to the
top of the list so that we canget it out within a week.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, that's beautiful of you.
I appreciate that so much.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Absolutely.
This is very much needed.
So tell me, in your, in youropinion, how does the ketamine
treatment, for example,differentiate from other, from
like psychedelics or plantmedicine, stuff like that?
How do you, how do you kind ofsee that bit different from each
other?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, it's a great question.
So I guess, from thedifferences perspective, it's,
first of all, it's synthetic, soit's not a naturally occurring
substance, but it still inducesan altered state of
consciousness.
It's still what I always say isplugs us into the divine, you
know, into divine intelligence,and it is legal, which I really
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appreciate, because many of theother ones are still schedule
one, unfortunately.
Um, and it's repute, it's likereproducible in terms of, like,
the dosing.
You know, you can really knowwhat dose you're taking and it's
, it's very, it's, it's aprescription, and so you don't.
You know, with mushrooms, forexample, you don't, and it's,
it's very, it's, it's aprescription, and so you don't.
You know, with mushrooms, forexample, you don't know the
potency, and there's such avariance, and so it's very clean
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and reproducible.
So you know exactly what you'retaking.
And one of the things that Ireally love about ketamine is
that it's gentle, it's so gentle, whereas I love mushrooms and I
love ayahuasca and all theseother plants.
But, like, sometimes they sendyou on a on a very radical,
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sometimes very abstract,sometimes very dense and
difficult journey, um, alwaysfor the highest, for your
highest good, with unconditionallove.
But it doesn't always feel likethat and for people that are
relatively new to this space ofpsychedelics or really you know,
mustering up the courage oflike looking at some harder
stuff, ketamine is very gentle.
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My experience, having gonethrough a lot of trauma, is that
whenever I sit with mushroomsor ayahuasca my nervous system
has been so contracted I getinto this fear space because I
never know how much what I'mgoing to encounter and like how
hard it's going to be, and so Ihave to go through this kind of
barrier of like regulating mynervous system in the medicine
space and then I get to the goodstuff, if I once I can move
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through it, whereas ketamine,because it feels so gentle right
off the bat, it's very heartopening.
I don't have to do that, I don'thave to do any of that and I'm
actually able to just like, feelsafer and go into the
experience, knowing that I'mlike, I'm supported and I get
like a lot done and it's notlike the productivity, but I'm
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able to like move through a lot,process a lot, grieve, a lot,
rage, a lot, whatever wants tobe felt I'm able to do without
the barrier of the contractionof my nervous system, which I
really, really love, not tomention that one single session
of ketamine suicidal ideation isreduced in one single session
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of ketamine within four hours.
You know that's profound andthat's in the literature and I
like to say that you know itkind of dissipates like the dark
cloud that may be kind ofhanging above somebody, and it's
not like this wonder drug whereit just like makes everything
sunshiny and like with rainbows,but it dissipates the cloud so
that you can then go into yourprocess and actually feel the
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benefit of the work that you'redoing, and so I love it for that
.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So beautiful?
I am not.
I'm familiar with very familiarwith psychedelics and plant
medicine, but I am not veryfamiliar with ketamine.
I mean, I just know pretty muchthe basics of it.
Yeah, so, and and the researchbehind it speaks for itself so
far.
So I am definitely glad that wehave that available, especially
that it's legal, like youmentioned, and they're a little
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bit hesitant stuff like that.
Are there any commonalitiesthat you can share without
breaking patient confidentiality, Like, is there any support or
integration after this?
Do people have you know, havethey reported kind of like
visions, or is it more mild,kind of just whatever that you
can share, that it's notoversharing?
Just for those that may beinterested in stepping into into
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that space as a possibility,they can kind of know a little
bit more about it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Sure, yeah, I love this.
So in within my 13 week program, they sit with medicine on
weeks five, seven and nine, andso there's a lot of
pre-integration.
There's a lot of integrationimmediately after the session,
so like it's a long call wherewe go straight into medicine and
integrate from medicine intointegration, because the
half-life is pretty quick and soonce you're out, you're out and
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you're verbal and you canespecially where there's so much
neuroplasticity we go rightinto integration to process what
just happened and then inbetween medicine sessions there
are integration calls and thenthere's over a month of
integration on the back end.
So for me, integration is like98% of transformation.
You know, psychedelicexperiences are really beautiful
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and illuminating, but it's likewhat are you going to do with
what you find and how are yougoing to weave that thread into
the tapestry of your life?
Creating a new infrastructurepsychologically, emotionally,
you know, spiritually, creatinga new infrastructure, and even
physically, of course, becauseit affects the body, the nervous
system, how you're, how you'reengaging with food, how you're
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treating yourself it all affectsthe body.
And so there's a lot of supportin terms of integration and, as
I mentioned, these experiencesare typically more gentle.
So a lot of my clients end uplike they receive like a level
of self-compassion, or theyaccess a level of self-love that
has never been accessible tothem before and through that
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lens they can see, you know,ways that they've treated
themselves.
They've been harsh withthemselves, they've been
punishing with themselves, ormaybe the way that they viewed
an event or a person, like aparent.
They are flooded with thissense of compassion for other
people and just alterations inthe way that they view self
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other events is radicallyradically shifts self other
events is radically radicallyshifts.
Um, it's a lot of people end upcrying during the experience
because it's a, you know, anemotional release or they're,
they're touching this, thisplace of compassion for
themselves, and really reframingthe way that they have treated
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themselves and seen themselves.
And then that begins totranslate to like out of
medicine spaces where theybecome just more gentle and
slower paced and and more lovingwith with self and other,
because everything is a directreflection of the relationship
we have with the self.
And so as you start to show upfor yourself with, with more of
that goodness, it starts toreflect into your relationships.
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And the last module of myprogram is called Full Bloom of
the Garden and I literally cryevery single time because what I
witness is somebody deeplyreconnecting to themselves.
You know, I'm a dietician and Iand I approach this through the
lens of health and wellnessbecause a lot of people are
struggling in that, in thatrealm.
(27:47):
But what I'm really doing ishelping somebody come back home
to themselves, like reconnect tothemselves, because they are
their best healer, they aretheir, their greatest teacher,
their guru.
I am not, I'm, I'm like the onewith the light, you know, the
torch, just like bringing themback, helping, bringing them
back home, guiding the path backin, and it's so others.
(28:09):
I think the era for that islong gone.
I mean, look where it's gottenus, right.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So I feel it's the time for those've seen the
biggest shift in my own life.
It's from reconnecting with mysoul, from remembering that.
So let me ask you a little bitmore in regards to this.
So it sounds like there's a lotof support, a lot of
(29:01):
integration, which I love, andyou have the one-on-one and you
have the group.
The group is only for women forright now, correct, correct.
One for one is for anyone.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Beautiful.
Okay, so if there are any, Ialways ask for people if they're
open to sharing some tips foraudience that they could do.
You can choose that.
I don't know if it'ssupplements or daily practices
or just anything.
Whatever you want to just throwout there that can help anybody
that's listening to this rightnow to start implementing or try
(29:36):
.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So what came through?
I love this.
I am a huge fan of dailypractice.
I'm a huge fan of ritualbecause it's like your anchor
point.
It is.
You know when you're in themood and when you're not.
It is, it is the thing thatallows for the stability in our
(29:58):
lives.
And what I what?
What helps me tremendously whenI used to like, oh I don, I
used to like I don't want tomeditate or I don't want to do
my practice, and it was that,this shift that just changed
everything for me was that whenI started to view this practice
as the safe place for all of theparts of me to be seen.
(30:19):
It's like the place where I canlet shame be seen and felt.
I can.
I can allow, allow my grief tobe witnessed, I can allow for
pleasure or eroticism to comeforth or whatever parts of me
want to come forth and bewitnessed by both me and the
divine.
(30:40):
It's like the place for that andI've learned to use whatever is
alive in that practice.
So if I'm feeling resistance todoing it, I bring the
resistance into the practice andI feel what resistance feels
like in my body, or like if I'mangry at my partner, and I have
(31:18):
this like charge in me.
I bring that in and I givemyself permission to rage and I
let myself feel it and I meetmyself in that space and then
complete like the cycle of it.
Instead of just irresponsiblydumping it on anybody else, I
get to meet myself in that spaceand gain the power from it and
transmute it and not splash itall over somebody else, you know
.
And so daily practice is likegiving yourself the full
permission to let whatever isalive be felt beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Do you bring breath, work and somatic movement or
flow into the space?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
always yeah, I always start with breath and breath
with sound, breath with soundand movement.
So it's like a lot ofundulation and like like
whatever is, whatever is alive,and and moving the energy
through and sounding it through,and then really landing in a
space of meditation.
And then it sometimes lookslike a self-love practice where
(32:03):
I'm just seeing myself andfeeling myself and honoring
myself.
Sometimes it's gratitude,sometimes it's journaling or
dance or card pulling orwhatever.
You know.
There's flow, but it's everyday and ideally every morning
for me.
That's just what works for meand, yeah, it's like a energetic
(32:23):
shower.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Thank you for sharing that.
Uh, same goes for me.
My my thing is in the morningas well.
It's kind of like my prime ofthe day before I go out.
Um, and I noticed thedifference days I don't do it.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I'm like maybe a practical level if you're
wanting for your listeners.
From like a, from a nutritionstandpoint, protein is so
underrated, like protein the rd,the recommended dietary
allowance for protein, isseverely inadequate and you know
(33:08):
when would you increase yourprotein and I'm not talking
about like factory farmedprotein, like high quality, if
you can, like, you know,grass-fed beef and free range
chicken, wild caught, caught,all that kind of stuff, right,
if you increase your protein andmarginally like decrease your
starchy carbohydrates, yourrefined, your rice, your bread,
(33:30):
your pasta, your sweets, likethat kind of stuff, your body
composition will changedramatically 100% you don't have
to do any, anything like yes,there are other things to do,
but if you just focus on thatlittle swap, your body
composition will changedramatically.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's beautiful.
Thank you for touching on that.
That is the exact change I'vemade.
I'm Cuban, so that meansthere's a lot of carbs involved,
especially in family gatherings.
Right, we have a lot of bread,pastelitos, you know, rice and
beans and all the goodies.
So, yeah, that's mostdefinitely the change I've made,
(34:08):
especially here at home.
Just increase the protein.
All you know, organic.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, this is so funny that you say this.
My father is Cuban, so my lastname is Acosta and I've got
Cuban blood in me for sure, andI'm getting ready to actually to
make picadillo when I get offthe call with you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But instead of rice.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm making cauliflower rice and so it ends
up being, you know, a nutrientdense meal, without this massive
increase in blood sugar levels,because that's really the name
of the game in blood sugarlevels, because that's really
the name of the game.
You want to watch?
The amount of sugar in theblood.
Sugar is very inflammatory andis the easiest way to gain
weight is excessive levels ofsugar in the blood and those
(34:48):
spikes in the glycemic index arejust arming us quite a bit.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Sure.
Are there any supplements oranything that you'd like to
recommend?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
um to leave them with I mean there's some like,
there's some foundational things?
I my belief is that there areno.
There's no one size fits allwhen it comes to, you know,
medicine and health, and sothat's why my work is very
tailored.
But there are some generic onesthat are that everybody could
probably use, extra of which arelike magnesium.
Magnesium glycinate,specifically, is one of my
(35:22):
favorite types of mag.
Digestive enzymes are reallyamazing.
A good b complex.
We can't go wrong with thatkind of stuff.
Vitamin d um, yeah, but I wouldsay you could take all the
supplements in the world, um,but if your foundational
practice is you're not sleepingwell, you're not moving well,
you're not moving your body,you're eating really crappy, the
supplements are not going tomove the dial.
(35:43):
They may replenish somenutrients, but they're not going
to like really impact yourphysiology as much as something,
and something so simple, likeif you do have, you know, a high
carbohydrate meal with thepastelitos and all the things.
Go for a 10 to 15 minute walkimmediately after your meal.
Walk around, because the bodywill utilize a lot of that sugar
(36:04):
and it will shave 20 to 30points off your glucose spike.
It's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I read an article about that not too long ago.
Yeah, it's remarkable.
Yeah, thank you for sharingthat.
All right, guys, you've heardit here.
Let's get to walk, let's get towalking including myself.
It's very beautiful.
I feel like you've shared a lotof value with the audience and
(36:34):
I would love to invite you guys,if you're dealing with anything
in regards to nutrition, do youwork with people that have like
immune system issue, autoimmuneissues, cancer stuff like that,
where they can kind of tweak alittle bit there?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, if they're in an acute phase, like if they're
dealing with cancer and they'rein an acute phase, I would send
them to a specialist.
But if they're in remission orwanting to prevent, specialist.
But if they're in remission orwanting to prevent, for example,
or have a recent diagnosis ofan autoimmune condition like
that's, that's absolutely.
I mean, a lot of that is gut, alot of that is a lot of things.
(37:09):
But you know, trauma isembedded, it's one of the layers
.
But how trauma has kind ofmanifested in the body, how it
affects our nervous system andall the things, it's all
connected and so yeah,absolutely I support.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Beautiful.
Well, thank you so much.
Is there anything you want toleave the audience with or
anything else you want to add?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Wow, I love that.
That's very deep.
It's way scarier when we thinkabout it, but when we're in it,
(37:50):
the body has like this rewardsystem we actually get
endorphins when we cry Like it'sthis embedded like
encouragement system of likefeel your feelings and there
will be relief, there will berelease.
And so if you fear whateveryou're avoiding, that's way
(38:11):
worse.
That perpetuates suffering.
And so if you can find someonewho can hold a safe space or
that you trust or you want tostart exploring with yourself, I
invite you to do that, becausethe fear is worse than the
actual thing itself.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Thank you so much.
Now that you mentioned that, Ijust want to add something real
quick before we get off.
I invite you to talk to youremotions literally just like a
friend.
That's really a teacher.
It's here to teach yousomething.
It's here for a reason, um,whether it's alerting you of
something or wants you to changesomething.
So you can literally ask um,whether it's your emotion or
(38:49):
whatever symptom you're having.
You can literally ask um, whatare you here to teach me?
Just like a friend, like anormal conversation.
Trust me, I'll speak back toyou, believe it or not.
Try it, um, and and and you'llsee.
I just ask um, is thereanything I can start or stop
doing?
Um to make it better?
Um, or to um?
(39:10):
You know whatever it is, justtalk to it.
Don't, don't be afraid of itand feel it.
Uh, it's just energy in motion.
Um, sit with it, feel it.
Don't be afraid of it and feelit.
It's just energy in motion, sitwith it, feel it.
I think the time just to runaway.
It's kind of like thinning out.
I think it's time for us to sitwith whatever is and just be
(39:34):
fully be.
It is the eternal now moment.
There's really no escaping frommy perception.
You can change dimensions.
You're still on the same levelof consciousness.
You still have to go.
Even if so I went through anear death experience and I
speak a lot in regards to thatthere's no running, there's no
escaping, it's all consciousness.
So you still, whether it's inthis plane, the astral plane and
(39:56):
the higher planes, you got towork through it.
It does.
There's just you still have to,you still have to process.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You're going to be met with it one way or the other
.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's it.
Yeah, so might as well do ithere in the now moment and just
be of service.
Your challenges are here for areason.
There is light at the end ofthe tunnel.
It's all a transition.
It's all kind of like thatcocoon and butterfly, which is
the reason I have it rightbehind me.
Trust the process, trustyourself, go within, try to
(40:31):
quiet the outside distractionsand, if not, if you're going
through it, because we also needhelp sometimes when we're in a
crisis, and if not, if you'regoing through it, because we
also need help sometimes whenwe're in a crisis, when we're
down, when we don't know what todo or we don't remember how to
gain the answers and theresources from our own knowledge
, from within.
Reach out, reach out Dependingon what you need.
There are people that can help.
(40:52):
You are not alone.
I promise you you're not alone.
Speak up about it, especiallyin regards to suicide ideation.
I was there.
I experienced it myself.
It has been one of the darkestmoments of my life and there is
help.
You don't have to do it aloneand there's a way out.
Please call someone, call afriend, tell somebody, just
(41:13):
reach out for help.
Okay, I will leave you guys.
Is there anything else, jillian, before we?
Um, I will leave you guys isthere anything else?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
um, jillian, before we jump off, that you feel, no,
I just really appreciate whatyou just spoke into and and
feeling people on the receivingend of that and and just you
know it's it's actuallyphysically, energetically
impossible to be alone in thisworld.
It's impossible.
And so whatever story that isis a fabrication of the ultimate
(41:46):
lie of the ego, which is thatwe're separate, and it's just a
lie.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
We're all one.
Love is the answer in and out.
Peace we're out.
But thank you, that is so trueand so beautiful.
Thank you for your wisdom.
I feel like you know.
I love how you would justapproach nutrition from like a
360, right, you look intoemotion, you look into trauma,
you look into the perception ofthe self.
(42:14):
Subconscious mind it's justwe're so.
We're multidimensional beings.
Conscious mind it's just we'reso.
We're multi-dimensional beings,we're so multi-layered that if
we don't start looking at allthe different perceptions and
lenses and start to peel thatonion, it could be quite
challenging.
So thank you for doing the work, for being of service, for your
(42:34):
gifts to humanity.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Thank you as well.
Thank you for being such abeautiful voice and platform for
for so many to receive and forinviting me into this space.
It's been a pleasure really.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah.
Hi Jillian, welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master
Podcast.
It's a pleasure to have youhere.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank, you so much, I'm so well and I'm so happy to
be here.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Beautiful, so I came across your page.
I was just speaking to hershortly before getting on and I
came across her on Instagram andI absolutely just love her page
.
I love her content.
I think she's bringing a lot oflight and information to things
that not only women but all ofus need in these times, and I
count myself in.
(00:33):
I've been doing a lot ofchanges in my nutrition and with
my hormones, regulating allthat stuff, and going through a
lot of personal changes, so Ifigured it would be great to
have you on so that you can kindof just share you know a little
bit about you, your journey,how you got to where you are
today, and also tell us a littlebit about what it is that you
do, your offerings and so forth.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
I mean, I never know where tostart.
Tell me about yourself.
It feels like such a hard andsimple thing at the same time,
but Tell me about yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It feels like such a hard and simple thing at the
same time, but tell me aboutyour childhood.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We'll start there and then we'll let it unfold.
My childhood was a mess, um, Ithink you know I've always been,
I've always been a seeker and Ispent a lot of time alone as a
child.
There was a lot of complextrauma.
It was a lot of a lot of, youknow, wounding in the household
from very wounded, unconsciousparents, um doing the best that
(01:32):
they could and um, and thatresulted in a in a lot of
conditioning and trauma in mystory.
And I started the path ofpersonal development when I was
around 16 years old.
My mom kind of brought me intoit.
She was moving through it and Iwas so deeply unhappy and so
deep in suffering and I thinkshe recognized that because it
(01:54):
was quite obvious and offered mekind of a way in and from that
moment, although nothing reallychanged in the instant, it put
me on this path of introspectionand discovery and just this
recognition that there wasanother way.
And although I had a lot more, Ithink, suffering to do, I was
(02:19):
on that path and I struggledvery much with an eating
disorder path and I struggledvery much with an eating
disorder.
I had a very distortedrelationship with both food and
my body and my worth and reallyall of it, and my relationship
with food was out of control.
I mean, I started emotionallyeating when I was three years
old, because I was in the midstof such intensity and it was
this incredible distraction,pleasurable experience, escape.
(02:44):
Incredible distraction,pleasurable experience, escape,
you know shift in my internalstate in an instant and it
became the thing that I reachedfor all the time, to the point
where I no longer had access to,or I didn't have access to,
really any other coping tools.
That was the one that was justso predominantly utilized.
So that was the one.
You know, I was struggling withmy body weight and I was
(03:07):
inflamed and I was diagnosedwith gut conditions and thyroid
conditions at a really young ageand had to take an elective in
college, actually an undergrad.
I was studying business and Itook nutrition because it was
like the other ones didn'tinterest me and I was deep in an
eating disorder at that timeand I figured that, you know, if
(03:30):
I learned a little bit aboutnutrition fundamentals, then
maybe I could learn how to beskinny and then I would be happy
, because that's kind of reallywhat we're all fed, no pun
intended.
And so I took it and I lovedthe class and, interestingly, I
was in treatment at the sametime for an eating disorder, and
so I was like learning aboutnutrition while in this
(03:50):
treatment center for an eatingdisorder and like kind of
comparing and contrasting what Iwas receiving and what I was
learning and experiencing at thesame time.
It was very interesting and Ireally, really I really
understood that it was not aboutthe food that like, even though
I knew what to eat and I wasbeing told what to eat from this
, from this treatment center andfrom school, it had nothing to
(04:14):
do with what was influencing myfood choices.
And I got really curious andset out on this path of like
well, what is this thing Like?
What is causing this?
What felt like a hijack of mybody?
That like, even though I maynot have like wanted to eat the
(04:34):
entire bag of cookies, there wassomething in me that wanted
nothing else but that Right, andit was like this internal
battle and I'm like what isgoing on and fast forward.
A number of years later, Idiscovered the path of
psychedelics and in an ayahuascaexperience, my story was
revealed to me, which wastotally suppressed from my
(04:56):
memory for over three decades Ihad no idea that the abuse that
I experienced because ofdissociation and all of the
parts of my story and all thepatterning and all the
self-hatred and the ofdissociation and all of the
parts of my story and all thepatterning and all the
self-hatred and the unworthinessand all the things that started
to make sense, and even thoughI could intellectualize it and
make sense of it and understandthe genesis of these behaviors
(05:19):
and these patterns, it didn'tnecessarily eradicate them.
It didn't really make them goaway.
I really had to go, layer bylayer and through my own process
, somatically into my body, intomy consciousness, start to like
clean house and like deep, deep, program the programming and
(05:40):
really start to come into thisspace of seeing myself and my
worth and really entering into arelationship with spirit and
the divine and nature and themagic that's all around us.
And in that process I went intosolitude for a number of years
and was in just this cocoon Isee this butterfly behind you
(06:02):
and it was like I was in such acocoon.
It was such a metamorphosis,incredibly extraordinary place.
I was in just this cocoon.
I see this butterfly behind youand it was like I was in such a
cocoon.
It was such a metamorphosis,incredibly extraordinary place I
was in and I started to harvestall this wisdom and all these
gems and and it was just so loudthat, like this is not supposed
to be just for me, this is notjust mine, like I have to.
There are so many people, asyou said, both men, women, all
(06:22):
humans, that are on this path ofsuffering and dissociation from
their bodies andself-punishment and all the
things, and I think that food isone of the most abused
substances in the world, and sohere I am, talking about it and
hoping that it resonates withpeople and that they can somehow
(06:44):
find this path ofself-liberation, because really
that's it, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's an inside job.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, always.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So tell me a little bit how you incorporate the
subconscious mind, because Ialways like to share that and I
work, not in nutrition, but verysimilarly, with trauma,
addiction, abuse, all thesethings.
So in the work that we do, thesubconscious mind, you know, has
(07:17):
a lot to do with these habits,behaviors and all these things.
It's much stronger than ourconscious mind and all these
things it's much stronger thanour conscious mind.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour program, starting with by
the way, I love the name thatyou gave it.
It's very beautiful.
So tell me, walk me a littlebit through that.
How does that look like whensomeone comes in?
(07:37):
Like kind of what layers orkind of touch, without giving
too much away, and just reallyanything you want to share about
how you approach nutritiondifferently.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, cool.
So, first of all, I agree withyou so much that like 95% of our
behavior is driven by thesubconscious mind and that's
also where like trauma lives,and so I like to think of trauma
as like the puppet master andlike we're on the strings and
it's, of course, it's not theonly thing that's in the
(08:11):
subconscious mind, but it takesup a lot of space Right and and
so if we want to make lastingchange, foundational,
fundamental changes in ourday-to-day behavior, thought
processes, all the things, andit's like we got to look up the
strings and see who's who'smaking us move and what I?
I know that there are manymodalities of, of and ways to
(08:34):
access subconscious mind,subconscious programming, and
you know, I I happen to like andI'm I'm considering this and
kind of like reframing this, myown journey, that I always say I
like efficiency.
There is a little bit of atendency of like it's not force,
it's definitely not force, butit's just like there's been an
urgency, but part of me thinksthe urgency is actually real
(08:56):
because we're in this reallycritical time of collective
transition and so there is asense of urgency of people to
kind of wake up and we don'thave the time to go meditate in
the Himalayas for 30 years, likewe.
There is an urgency, and so Ifind that psychedelics are
incredible allies and tools andteachers and guides that can
(09:17):
bring us right there withefficiency and and in a in a
safe and supportive and gentleand trusting container, so much
transformation becomes possible.
And so you know, the name of mybusiness is the Root Cause
Method, because I really believethat the root cause of chronic
illness is trauma, the rootcause of suffering and weight
(09:40):
gain and obesity and narcoticaddiction.
It's actually just trauma andpain and all the myriad ways
that we as humans are socreative and trying to
disassociate from the pain, pushthe pain down, self-medicate,
and so the premise of my work isreally helping people to create
(10:02):
safety within themselves, tofeel, because if we're willing
to feel, whatever it isdiscomfort, grief, pain, sorrow,
anxiety, whatever, then we nolonger need anything, including
food or any other substance tonumb it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No, go ahead please.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I wanted to kind of interrupt you there, because I
was just a guest on a podcasttoday and I mentioned that we
tend and I include myself, I'mnot excluding myself we tend to,
let's just say, this is thedarkness, right, and we tend to
want to go around it above it,however, but through it.
Of it, however, but through it,and that's really that's that's
(10:48):
where a lot of the expansionhappens and that discomfort in
our soul journey of evolution,and it is through our own
challenges.
Right, look at you walking it's.
You just went through, youwalked through the fire, right,
and now you're like all right, Igot you.
Now, come on, I'll walk withyou.
And another thing is we can'tforce anyone to walk through
that fire, right, they can'tforce a horse to drink water.
(11:11):
We can only offer our support.
Whoever's interested.
Then you know you can walk withthem as far as they want to go.
Right, that's pretty much.
But yeah, I love what you'resaying and sorry I caught you
off, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's okay.
I love what you mentionedbecause you know, I I always say
the darkness is where the rootsgrow Like.
Look at any, most plants haveroot systems underground.
It's like the most like mineralrich, fertile soil, is where,
like things take hold and andand give life.
(11:48):
And you know, especially aswomen, but not only exclusively,
but like, our power is in ourdarkness, like the womb space is
darkness, it's just the mostfertile potential space for
creation and we're taught tofear our darkness.
We're taught to be afraid ofthe dark, to love and light.
(12:10):
And there's great, that's great, but that's half the story.
And our power and our magiccomes from being withholding,
getting well acquainted with,loving our darkness.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We're a full spectrum of light.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, we get to experience all the colors, all
the emotions.
It's a spiral of continuousevolution, continuous awakening,
continuous rebirth.
In my opinion, there is nodeath.
So yeah, absolutely, I lovethat it's so juicy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And so, when you can, when you can cultivate the
safety, when you can helpsomeone feel safe, when you can
feel safe within yourself tofeel your darkness, to feel pain
, grief, whatever, then itbecomes the compost for growth,
it becomes the usable materialfor your own evolution and you
no longer fear it and you're nolonger pushing it away in all
(13:08):
the creative ways that areactually creating more and more
disconnection from yourself,from your power, from your body,
from your intuition, from yourcreativity, from all the things,
and you're coming into deepwholeness.
But this wholeness is so hugenow, it's so expanded, it's so
magnificent.
This wholeness is so huge now,it's so expanded, it's so
magnificent.
And so, to answer your initialquestion, I have a program
(13:29):
within my business called theGarden.
Because the Garden, in myperspective, first of all, it's
where I used to lay as a child,in the grass forever and
honestly dissociate from where Iwas.
I would just drown myself inthe incredible, exquisite
patterns of nature.
I would get lost forever and itheld me and it was like, felt
(13:50):
like.
Every single time I lay on thegrass I cry because it feels
like I'm being hugged from themother.
It just like I'm being so lovedand so held and it's so
beautiful and undeniable and,plus, I'm an earth sign, so I
just like nozzle, but it's anenergetic container where things
grow and transform and andmaterialize.
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And it's not only the things wewant to grow that grow, it's
all things.
And so there's like weeds thatgrow in there and there are kind
of opportunistic, you know,species that that crowd out the
space, and so we're constantlytending, if we're conscious to
our garden and to what's growingand and being intentional with
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what we plant and and and breed,breed life into.
And so it's a 13 week programand it's one-on-one, just me and
the individual.
And in the beginning I beginning, I'm analyzing data.
So it depends on what they cometo me for If there's like
gastrointestinal issues or youknow their symptoms.
(14:53):
Depending on their symptoms,I'm either analyzing blood
chemistry or stool or driedurine or whatever.
From a functional medicineperspective, I'm a functional
dietitian and I'm creating aprotocol for their unique
physiology.
So, depending on whatever Ifind here's, here's a structure.
It's not a diet or a meal plan,but here's a structure then
which you could follow that willbe really supportive for your
(15:13):
body and give you kind ofsomething to grab onto.
But when you deviate from thatbecause of patterns of emotional
eating, we literally use it asgold.
It's golden because what itreveals is like insight into
your patterns and your triggersand the nuances and what you
really need, all those kinds ofthings, and so that's.
(15:34):
That is kind of more technicalin the beginning of the program
and simultaneously I'm gettingto know their story and I'm
getting to know their processand their, their patterning.
And then they sit with ketamine.
They sit with medicine threetimes over the course of of 13
weeks.
Now I'm a big fan of naturallyoccurring substances and I have
(15:56):
a license and there areliabilities, and so everything
in my practice is above ground.
And so they get a prescriptionfrom a provider for ketamine and
I am holding space and I'mreally intuitive and I'm really
empathic, and so I'm creating anenergetic container for them to
safely experience what themedicine kind of brings forth in
a way that feels navigatablefor them, in a way that feels
(16:20):
like, you know, they're dippingtheir toes into the waters of
feeling, into the waters of thesubconscious, into kind of
uncharted territory where theycan feel safe and supported and
held in that.
And then we just start tounpack together and so, yeah,
that's how we kind of get intothe subconscious.
(16:41):
And then I have there's so manyguided.
My work is very experiential.
It's like somewhat conceptual,but I'm really bringing them
into their body in real time and, in that process, giving them
the opportunity to experiencetheir own capacity expanding and
their capacity for feeling.
Cause when you, when theyrealize they they can, they can
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feel something uncomfortable andnot need to like check out with
food or whatever.
They begin to developconfidence in themselves, their
own capacity, self-efficacy.
And then we translate thatoutside of medicine space into
ordinary states of consciousnesswhere something may come up and
all of a sudden it's like, oh,I've been here before, I can
(17:23):
feel this.
Now I'm not four years oldanymore where it was.
Oh, I've been here before, Ican feel this.
Now I'm not four years oldanymore, where it was too
chaotic and I needed todissociate.
I can actually be with myselfthrough this.
And people have lost upwards of40 pounds in 13 weeks in my
program.
And it's not just about theweight loss and it's definitely
not because of a diet.
It's because they learn how tohold themselves through
(17:44):
difficult emotion and they're nolonger using food to push it
down.
So the body changes, thephysiology changes.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's beautiful.
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's it.
That's my take on nutrition andwhat I'm doing, and that's one
of my offerings.
There's another one.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Tell us about the other one, and then we'll dive
deeper into this.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Sure.
So.
The other one is calledWildflower, and the premise of
this program it's a groupprogram and it's the premise
really is like finding thebeauty in the weeds.
And wildflowers are technicallyweeds, but they're beautiful
and they grow wildly and untamedand they're so magical and so
it's really about.
(18:23):
So this is a group program,exclusively for women.
It's a cohort.
The next one's launchingSeptember 10th, so I'm not sure
what time when this podcast willcome out, but the next one is
live September 10th and it's aneight week program for women on
this path and it's all aboutteaching them, guiding them
through experiences andcommunity of women, how to use
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these triggers around food, howto use this distorted
relationship with food toactually help illuminate what it
is they're really seeking, whatthey're really needing in that
moment, so that they can meettheir own needs and they can let
go of the disempoweringpatterns that, like, don't
actually ever work.
And so it's this.
(19:06):
It's so powerful.
I just closed my, my last one,and it was like there's
something really incredible whenwomen come together in support
of other women Whoa, and likethe willingness to be seen in
your process and be so met withlove, and then hearing your
story come out of the voice ofanother woman and just this
collective community aroundfemale empowerment.
(19:30):
It's so potent, it's somethingthat the one-on-one work cannot
provide.
It's its own thing.
It's incredible, and so I'mreally excited Because I'm
stepping more and more intogroup work.
I've done public speaking andhosted live like facilitated
live workshops and retreats andthings like that, and the group,
(19:52):
especially with women, feelsvery clear to me that that's the
next step, that's the nextiteration of my work, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That sounds beautiful .
Yeah, together we candefinitely achieve much more.
So I love your offerings.
It sounds very beautiful andwe'll make sure to get this out.
Actually, I'll.
I'll prioritize.
Noah helps us with all of ourpodcast stuff to bring it to the
top of the list so that we canget it out within a week.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, that's beautiful of you.
I appreciate that so much.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Absolutely.
This is very much needed.
So tell me, in your, in youropinion, how does the ketamine
treatment, for example,differentiate from other, from
like psychedelics or plantmedicine, stuff like that?
How do you, how do you kind ofsee that bit different from each
other?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, it's a great question.
So I guess, from thedifferences perspective, it's,
first of all, it's synthetic, soit's not a naturally occurring
substance, but it still inducesan altered state of
consciousness.
It's still what I always say isplugs us into the divine, you
know, into divine intelligence,and it is legal, which I really
(21:09):
appreciate, because many of theother ones are still schedule
one, unfortunately.
Um, and it's repute, it's likereproducible in terms of, like,
the dosing.
You know, you can really knowwhat dose you're taking and it's
, it's very, it's, it's aprescription, and so you don't.
You know, with mushrooms, forexample, you don't, and it's,
it's very, it's, it's aprescription, and so you don't.
You know, with mushrooms, forexample, you don't know the
potency, and there's such avariance, and so it's very clean
(21:31):
and reproducible.
So you know exactly what you'retaking.
And one of the things that Ireally love about ketamine is
that it's gentle, it's so gentle, whereas I love mushrooms and I
love ayahuasca and all theseother plants.
But, like, sometimes they sendyou on a on a very radical,
(21:54):
sometimes very abstract,sometimes very dense and
difficult journey, um, alwaysfor the highest, for your
highest good, with unconditionallove.
But it doesn't always feel likethat and for people that are
relatively new to this space ofpsychedelics or really you know,
mustering up the courage oflike looking at some harder
stuff, ketamine is very gentle.
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My experience, having gonethrough a lot of trauma, is that
whenever I sit with mushroomsor ayahuasca my nervous system
has been so contracted I getinto this fear space because I
never know how much what I'mgoing to encounter and like how
hard it's going to be, and so Ihave to go through this kind of
barrier of like regulating mynervous system in the medicine
space and then I get to the goodstuff, if I once I can move
(22:38):
through it, whereas ketamine,because it feels so gentle right
off the bat, it's very heartopening.
I don't have to do that, I don'thave to do any of that and I'm
actually able to just like, feelsafer and go into the
experience, knowing that I'mlike, I'm supported and I get
like a lot done and it's notlike the productivity, but I'm
(22:58):
able to like move through a lot,process a lot, grieve, a lot,
rage, a lot, whatever wants tobe felt I'm able to do without
the barrier of the contractionof my nervous system, which I
really, really love, not tomention that one single session
of ketamine suicidal ideation isreduced in one single session
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of ketamine within four hours.
You know that's profound andthat's in the literature and I
like to say that you know itkind of dissipates like the dark
cloud that may be kind ofhanging above somebody, and it's
not like this wonder drug whereit just like makes everything
sunshiny and like with rainbows,but it dissipates the cloud so
that you can then go into yourprocess and actually feel the
(23:43):
benefit of the work that you'redoing, and so I love it for that
.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So beautiful?
I am not.
I'm familiar with very familiarwith psychedelics and plant
medicine, but I am not veryfamiliar with ketamine.
I mean, I just know pretty muchthe basics of it.
Yeah, so, and and the researchbehind it speaks for itself so
far.
So I am definitely glad that wehave that available, especially
that it's legal, like youmentioned, and they're a little
(24:28):
bit hesitant stuff like that.
Are there any commonalitiesthat you can share without
breaking patient confidentiality, Like, is there any support or
integration after this?
Do people have you know, havethey reported kind of like
visions, or is it more mild,kind of just whatever that you
can share, that it's notoversharing?
Just for those that may beinterested in stepping into into
(24:51):
that space as a possibility,they can kind of know a little
bit more about it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Sure, yeah, I love this.
So in within my 13 week program, they sit with medicine on
weeks five, seven and nine, andso there's a lot of
pre-integration.
There's a lot of integrationimmediately after the session,
so like it's a long call wherewe go straight into medicine and
integrate from medicine intointegration, because the
half-life is pretty quick and soonce you're out, you're out and
(25:16):
you're verbal and you canespecially where there's so much
neuroplasticity we go rightinto integration to process what
just happened and then inbetween medicine sessions there
are integration calls and thenthere's over a month of
integration on the back end.
So for me, integration is like98% of transformation.
You know, psychedelicexperiences are really beautiful
(25:37):
and illuminating, but it's likewhat are you going to do with
what you find and how are yougoing to weave that thread into
the tapestry of your life?
Creating a new infrastructurepsychologically, emotionally,
you know, spiritually, creatinga new infrastructure, and even
physically, of course, becauseit affects the body, the nervous
system, how you're, how you'reengaging with food, how you're
(25:58):
treating yourself it all affectsthe body.
And so there's a lot of supportin terms of integration and, as
I mentioned, these experiencesare typically more gentle.
So a lot of my clients end uplike they receive like a level
of self-compassion, or theyaccess a level of self-love that
has never been accessible tothem before and through that
(26:19):
lens they can see, you know,ways that they've treated
themselves.
They've been harsh withthemselves, they've been
punishing with themselves, ormaybe the way that they viewed
an event or a person, like aparent.
They are flooded with thissense of compassion for other
people and just alterations inthe way that they view self
(26:40):
other events is radicallyradically shifts self other
events is radically radicallyshifts.
Um, it's a lot of people end upcrying during the experience
because it's a, you know, anemotional release or they're,
they're touching this, thisplace of compassion for
themselves, and really reframingthe way that they have treated
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themselves and seen themselves.
And then that begins totranslate to like out of
medicine spaces where theybecome just more gentle and
slower paced and and more lovingwith with self and other,
because everything is a directreflection of the relationship
we have with the self.
And so as you start to show upfor yourself with, with more of
that goodness, it starts toreflect into your relationships.
(27:26):
And the last module of myprogram is called Full Bloom of
the Garden and I literally cryevery single time because what I
witness is somebody deeplyreconnecting to themselves.
You know, I'm a dietician and Iand I approach this through the
lens of health and wellnessbecause a lot of people are
struggling in that, in thatrealm.
(27:47):
But what I'm really doing ishelping somebody come back home
to themselves, like reconnect tothemselves, because they are
their best healer, they aretheir, their greatest teacher,
their guru.
I am not, I'm, I'm like the onewith the light, you know, the
torch, just like bringing themback, helping, bringing them
back home, guiding the path backin, and it's so others.
(28:09):
I think the era for that islong gone.
I mean, look where it's gottenus, right.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So I feel it's the time for those've seen the
biggest shift in my own life.
It's from reconnecting with mysoul, from remembering that.
So let me ask you a little bitmore in regards to this.
So it sounds like there's a lotof support, a lot of
(29:01):
integration, which I love, andyou have the one-on-one and you
have the group.
The group is only for women forright now, correct, correct.
One for one is for anyone.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Beautiful.
Okay, so if there are any, Ialways ask for people if they're
open to sharing some tips foraudience that they could do.
You can choose that.
I don't know if it'ssupplements or daily practices
or just anything.
Whatever you want to just throwout there that can help anybody
that's listening to this rightnow to start implementing or try
(29:36):
.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So what came through?
I love this.
I am a huge fan of dailypractice.
I'm a huge fan of ritualbecause it's like your anchor
point.
It is.
You know when you're in themood and when you're not.
It is, it is the thing thatallows for the stability in our
(29:58):
lives.
And what I what?
What helps me tremendously whenI used to like, oh I don, I
used to like I don't want tomeditate or I don't want to do
my practice, and it was that,this shift that just changed
everything for me was that whenI started to view this practice
as the safe place for all of theparts of me to be seen.
(30:19):
It's like the place where I canlet shame be seen and felt.
I can.
I can allow, allow my grief tobe witnessed, I can allow for
pleasure or eroticism to comeforth or whatever parts of me
want to come forth and bewitnessed by both me and the
divine.
(30:40):
It's like the place for that andI've learned to use whatever is
alive in that practice.
So if I'm feeling resistance todoing it, I bring the
resistance into the practice andI feel what resistance feels
like in my body, or like if I'mangry at my partner, and I have
(31:18):
this like charge in me.
I bring that in and I givemyself permission to rage and I
let myself feel it and I meetmyself in that space and then
complete like the cycle of it.
Instead of just irresponsiblydumping it on anybody else, I
get to meet myself in that spaceand gain the power from it and
transmute it and not splash itall over somebody else, you know
.
And so daily practice is likegiving yourself the full
permission to let whatever isalive be felt beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Do you bring breath, work and somatic movement or
flow into the space?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
always yeah, I always start with breath and breath
with sound, breath with soundand movement.
So it's like a lot ofundulation and like like
whatever is, whatever is alive,and and moving the energy
through and sounding it through,and then really landing in a
space of meditation.
And then it sometimes lookslike a self-love practice where
(32:03):
I'm just seeing myself andfeeling myself and honoring
myself.
Sometimes it's gratitude,sometimes it's journaling or
dance or card pulling orwhatever.
You know.
There's flow, but it's everyday and ideally every morning
for me.
That's just what works for meand, yeah, it's like a energetic
(32:23):
shower.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Thank you for sharing that.
Uh, same goes for me.
My my thing is in the morningas well.
It's kind of like my prime ofthe day before I go out.
Um, and I noticed thedifference days I don't do it.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I'm like maybe a practical level if you're
wanting for your listeners.
From like a, from a nutritionstandpoint, protein is so
underrated, like protein the rd,the recommended dietary
allowance for protein, isseverely inadequate and you know
(33:08):
when would you increase yourprotein and I'm not talking
about like factory farmedprotein, like high quality, if
you can, like, you know,grass-fed beef and free range
chicken, wild caught, caught,all that kind of stuff, right,
if you increase your protein andmarginally like decrease your
starchy carbohydrates, yourrefined, your rice, your bread,
(33:30):
your pasta, your sweets, likethat kind of stuff, your body
composition will changedramatically 100% you don't have
to do any, anything like yes,there are other things to do,
but if you just focus on thatlittle swap, your body
composition will changedramatically.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's beautiful.
Thank you for touching on that.
That is the exact change I'vemade.
I'm Cuban, so that meansthere's a lot of carbs involved,
especially in family gatherings.
Right, we have a lot of bread,pastelitos, you know, rice and
beans and all the goodies.
So, yeah, that's mostdefinitely the change I've made,
(34:08):
especially here at home.
Just increase the protein.
All you know, organic.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, this is so funny that you say this.
My father is Cuban, so my lastname is Acosta and I've got
Cuban blood in me for sure, andI'm getting ready to actually to
make picadillo when I get offthe call with you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But instead of rice.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm making cauliflower rice and so it ends
up being, you know, a nutrientdense meal, without this massive
increase in blood sugar levels,because that's really the name
of the game in blood sugarlevels, because that's really
the name of the game.
You want to watch?
The amount of sugar in theblood.
Sugar is very inflammatory andis the easiest way to gain
weight is excessive levels ofsugar in the blood and those
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spikes in the glycemic index arejust arming us quite a bit.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Sure.
Are there any supplements oranything that you'd like to
recommend?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
um to leave them with I mean there's some like,
there's some foundational things?
I my belief is that there areno.
There's no one size fits allwhen it comes to, you know,
medicine and health, and sothat's why my work is very
tailored.
But there are some generic onesthat are that everybody could
probably use, extra of which arelike magnesium.
Magnesium glycinate,specifically, is one of my
(35:22):
favorite types of mag.
Digestive enzymes are reallyamazing.
A good b complex.
We can't go wrong with thatkind of stuff.
Vitamin d um, yeah, but I wouldsay you could take all the
supplements in the world, um,but if your foundational
practice is you're not sleepingwell, you're not moving well,
you're not moving your body,you're eating really crappy, the
supplements are not going tomove the dial.
(35:43):
They may replenish somenutrients, but they're not going
to like really impact yourphysiology as much as something,
and something so simple, likeif you do have, you know, a high
carbohydrate meal with thepastelitos and all the things.
Go for a 10 to 15 minute walkimmediately after your meal.
Walk around, because the bodywill utilize a lot of that sugar
(36:04):
and it will shave 20 to 30points off your glucose spike.
It's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I read an article about that not too long ago.
Yeah, it's remarkable.
Yeah, thank you for sharingthat.
All right, guys, you've heardit here.
Let's get to walk, let's get towalking including myself.
It's very beautiful.
I feel like you've shared a lotof value with the audience and
(36:34):
I would love to invite you guys,if you're dealing with anything
in regards to nutrition, do youwork with people that have like
immune system issue, autoimmuneissues, cancer stuff like that,
where they can kind of tweak alittle bit there?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, if they're in an acute phase, like if they're
dealing with cancer and they'rein an acute phase, I would send
them to a specialist.
But if they're in remission orwanting to prevent, specialist.
But if they're in remission orwanting to prevent, for example,
or have a recent diagnosis ofan autoimmune condition like
that's, that's absolutely.
I mean, a lot of that is gut, alot of that is a lot of things.
(37:09):
But you know, trauma isembedded, it's one of the layers
.
But how trauma has kind ofmanifested in the body, how it
affects our nervous system andall the things, it's all
connected and so yeah,absolutely I support.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Beautiful.
Well, thank you so much.
Is there anything you want toleave the audience with or
anything else you want to add?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Wow, I love that.
That's very deep.
It's way scarier when we thinkabout it, but when we're in it,
(37:50):
the body has like this rewardsystem we actually get
endorphins when we cry Like it'sthis embedded like
encouragement system of likefeel your feelings and there
will be relief, there will berelease.
And so if you fear whateveryou're avoiding, that's way
(38:11):
worse.
That perpetuates suffering.
And so if you can find someonewho can hold a safe space or
that you trust or you want tostart exploring with yourself, I
invite you to do that, becausethe fear is worse than the
actual thing itself.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Thank you so much.
Now that you mentioned that, Ijust want to add something real
quick before we get off.
I invite you to talk to youremotions literally just like a
friend.
That's really a teacher.
It's here to teach yousomething.
It's here for a reason, um,whether it's alerting you of
something or wants you to changesomething.
So you can literally ask um,whether it's your emotion or
(38:49):
whatever symptom you're having.
You can literally ask um, whatare you here to teach me?
Just like a friend, like anormal conversation.
Trust me, I'll speak back toyou, believe it or not.
Try it, um, and and and you'llsee.
I just ask um, is thereanything I can start or stop
doing?
Um to make it better?
Um, or to um?
(39:10):
You know whatever it is, justtalk to it.
Don't, don't be afraid of itand feel it.
Uh, it's just energy in motion.
Um, sit with it, feel it.
Don't be afraid of it and feelit.
It's just energy in motion, sitwith it, feel it.
I think the time just to runaway.
It's kind of like thinning out.
I think it's time for us to sitwith whatever is and just be
(39:34):
fully be.
It is the eternal now moment.
There's really no escaping frommy perception.
You can change dimensions.
You're still on the same levelof consciousness.
You still have to go.
Even if so I went through anear death experience and I
speak a lot in regards to thatthere's no running, there's no
escaping, it's all consciousness.
So you still, whether it's inthis plane, the astral plane and
(39:56):
the higher planes, you got towork through it.
It does.
There's just you still have to,you still have to process.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You're going to be met with it one way or the other
.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's it.
Yeah, so might as well do ithere in the now moment and just
be of service.
Your challenges are here for areason.
There is light at the end ofthe tunnel.
It's all a transition.
It's all kind of like thatcocoon and butterfly, which is
the reason I have it rightbehind me.
Trust the process, trustyourself, go within, try to
(40:31):
quiet the outside distractionsand, if not, if you're going
through it, because we also needhelp sometimes when we're in a
crisis, and if not, if you'regoing through it, because we
also need help sometimes whenwe're in a crisis, when we're
down, when we don't know what todo or we don't remember how to
gain the answers and theresources from our own knowledge
, from within.
Reach out, reach out Dependingon what you need.
There are people that can help.
(40:52):
You are not alone.
I promise you you're not alone.
Speak up about it, especiallyin regards to suicide ideation.
I was there.
I experienced it myself.
It has been one of the darkestmoments of my life and there is
help.
You don't have to do it aloneand there's a way out.
Please call someone, call afriend, tell somebody, just
(41:13):
reach out for help.
Okay, I will leave you guys.
Is there anything else, jillian, before we?
Um, I will leave you guys isthere anything else?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
um, jillian, before we jump off, that you feel, no,
I just really appreciate whatyou just spoke into and and
feeling people on the receivingend of that and and just you
know it's it's actuallyphysically, energetically
impossible to be alone in thisworld.
It's impossible.
And so whatever story that isis a fabrication of the ultimate
(41:46):
lie of the ego, which is thatwe're separate, and it's just a
lie.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
We're all one.
Love is the answer in and out.
Peace we're out.
But thank you, that is so trueand so beautiful.
Thank you for your wisdom.
I feel like you know.
I love how you would justapproach nutrition from like a
360, right, you look intoemotion, you look into trauma,
you look into the perception ofthe self.
(42:14):
Subconscious mind it's justwe're so.
We're multidimensional beings.
Conscious mind it's just we'reso.
We're multi-dimensional beings,we're so multi-layered that if
we don't start looking at allthe different perceptions and
lenses and start to peel thatonion, it could be quite
challenging.
So thank you for doing the work, for being of service, for your
(42:34):
gifts to humanity.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Thank you as well.
Thank you for being such abeautiful voice and platform for
for so many to receive and forinviting me into this space.
It's been a pleasure really.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah.
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