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Hi, I'm Judd Fink
From as early as the age of four, I’ve felt a profound connection to the universe, receiving intuitive messages from Source and those who have passed on. These insights have been my guiding light, shaping my life and empowering me to help others on their journeys. My purpose is to guide you toward this same clarity and inner peace, so you can find the courage to step into your highest potential. We’re all meant to live joyful, fulfilled lives—not stuck in cycles of sadness, depression, or feeling lost. Healing isn’t about reliving the past; it’s about embracing your future and realizing that you are not your past.

As we move toward this alignment, it’s essential to recognize the triggers and patterns we carry from past programming. These triggers are the echoes of old beliefs, fears, and defenses that have shaped us but no longer serve who we are becoming. By identifying these triggers, we’re able to understand why they’re there, often linked to deep-seated experiences or emotional wounds. Instead of reacting or avoiding them, we can approach them with curiosity and compassion, seeing them as signposts guiding us to the parts of ourselves that need healing.

In my own journey, I’ve walked through some of life’s darkest places—addictions, infidelity, feeling utterly disconnected from myself. I numbed my pain through habits that became masks, pushing me further from who I truly was. But once I began to confront these triggers and patterns, I understood that they were rooted in unprocessed trauma and beliefs that had been ingrained in me from early on. By facing them, I started to release the grip they had on my life, choosing instead to rewrite my story on my own terms.

A crucial part of this healing was realizing that trauma lives in the body. Triggers can resurface repeatedly until we address the underlying wounds. Somatic healing became my gateway—a powerful tool to release stored trauma and break free from the conditioning that kept me feeling stuck. Through somatic breathwork, I was able to heal rapidly, moving past the need to relive pain over and over. Instead, I began to truly let go, paving the way for freedom and empowerment. This practice changed my life, and it’s why I’m so passionate about sharing it with others as a fast, effective way to heal.

In addition to somatic breathwork, I work with modalities such as Reiki, physical fitness, shadow work, shamanic trauma healing, and soul retrieval. 


I’m not just a coach or healer; I’ve lived this journey. I’ve faced my shadows, raised my vibration, and emerged stronger and more aligned. My experience and intuition allow me to hold a safe, healing space for you as you identify and work t

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
hi dud, welcome to the quantum alchemist master
podcast.
I'm very excited to have youhere, welcome hi, rosalia,
thanks for having me.
I'm very excited, too, aboutthis my, my pleasure, and we
were just speaking before he goton about the sign right behind
him and I know it's not typicalto start the podcast um speaking

(00:22):
about that, but it reallycaught my attention about the
wonderful synchronicities andmiracles we get to experience
every single day in our lives Ifwe really become hyper aware of
how everything isinterconnected.
Would you mind, before, beforeyou go into your story and your
hero's journey, to tell us aboutthat real quick?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
yeah, so these signs I?
I just ended up.
I started doing the coachingstuff, you know, and then one of
the dudes that I grew up withand he ends up owning the
machine shop.
They make all of the signsaround town here.
You know bloomington normalarea and you know the breweries,
law offices, you know reallynice signs and that and um, he

(01:08):
supported what I was doing andhe's just like hey, let me make
your signs for you stuff foryour podcast, and we hadn't
talked and it had been, I mean,years since we talked to you,
you know, and uh, should cost alot more than I paid for, you
know a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
The reason I bring light to that is because it has
to do with everything else thatwe do in life.
But this is a beautiful exampleof that.
When we make the decision totake that first step whether
there's uncertainty, there'sfear, we don't have the
resources at that time firststep whether there's uncertainty
, there's fear, we don't havethe resources at that time,
somehow something greater thanourselves starts to provide and

(01:51):
the bridge begins to appear asyou take the step, even if it
feels like you're fucking up allthe time yeah, it's true.
So I just wanted to bring lightto that and thank, thank you for
sharing that story.
The floor is all yours because,as the listeners might have

(02:11):
noticed, we have changed ourways of doing the podcast.
It's no longer long form.
We've kind of kept it on theshort form of that.
We've kind of kept it on theshort form of that.
But in exchange, we haveprovided you now with free

(02:32):
access to master classes thatyou can access, especially if
you can't afford coaching, Ifyou just can't invest in it
right now and just want to learnfirst and then jump the gun on
whatever coach resonates withyou.
That's cool too.
You have them there availableto you and it's going to serve
you in some way.
So take the floor.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
All right.
So I was a mechanic for 20years before I started doing
this and I wasn't passionateabout it.
It was just something that Idid, you know, something that I
really didn't care about, but Ilearned it to make a paycheck,
right.
And then I realized I justwasn't fulfilled in life.

(03:07):
I was going through a divorce,all this stuff, everything was
changing in my life.
So then it was just like okay,got the opportunity to do
literally whatever I want atthis point, you know, without
anybody saying anything, orreally me giving a shit about
what anyone else is saying, youknow, because I've got no one to

(03:28):
answer to at that point, right.
And so, going back, though, Iremember you know a ton of
anxiety throughout that, right.
But then all these supportivesigns and synchronicities
literally everywhere all aroundme.
You know stuff that you can'texplain.

(03:51):
You know numbers coming out ofnowhere, people that you meet,
you know um guides, like gettingit more and more into
meditations and breath work anddoing all that stuff, and you,
just you easily connect.
The better that you take care,even though you're going through
a whole bunch of shit, you know, like the better that you take
care of yourself physically andmentally, like it makes you grow

(04:14):
spiritually.
It's much easier, much, mucheasier to connect then and pay
attention.
You know and acknowledge what'sactually going on and and
feeling these energies about.
You know what I mean and uh, sothen it made it easier for me
to let go and just move forwardwith what I wanted to do.

(04:35):
You know, even though I wasshit, I'll be honest like I'm
still scared, but it's like Iknow what I'm talking about.
You know what I mean.
It's just like you know, youjust it's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's overcoming the fears all the time and just
going right, let me let me pausethere, if that's okay with you,
to kind of um peel the onionback a little bit, because if
not I will completely lose mytrain of thought.
I'll never get it back.
A lot of the times people thinkthis healing process, awakening

(05:19):
process, it's a one-timewonderful spiritual or
paranormal event that you gothrough and that you're
enlightened in some sort of likeexempt from emotions or
catastrophe or challenges likethis.
I can't even pronounce thatlike romanticizing or whatever
the idea of of that awakeningprocess.
And, oh man, if anything, yourear, you feel all of it more.

(05:41):
I feel you're more aware ofeverything and the ripple
effects All of that stuff hasnot only on you but on other
people, and you, pretty much,are confronted with the fact, I
would say, that you have to takeresponsibility for your own
shit, basically.
So I love that you'retransparent and open and not

(06:04):
just completely woo woo and like, oh, my life is perfect, I got
it all figured out.
Like shit, I still haven'tfigured shit out.
Like every single day I wake upand I try to do the best I can
and try to go with with whatevercomes at me that day and try to
do my best you know with thetools that I have.
Right With what I've learned,but thank you for being raw and

(06:28):
open about it and and yourprocess.
I appreciate that becausethat's what I really want to
share with people.
I want to be open and truthfulas to all the shit that we all
go through as as a humanity.
We are all going through ittogether.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, absolutely, and it's hearing people's stories,
the real ones, and stuff, youknow the people being vulnerable
that actually helps otherpeople, because you know my
story could help whomever,whomever hears it, whomever,
whomever it resonates with.
You know, and I'm not sayinglike my life was worse than

(07:04):
anyone else's or anything likethat, it's my own experience,
right, and but if it can't help,then it will right.
So can you tell me a?
little bit about your like,maybe childhood or growing up,
or if you've been confrontedwith addiction or anything like
that, like um that you kind ofwant to share, to kind of give

(07:28):
us um an idea of yeah absolutelyso I grew up and when I was a
kid, my first memory of myfather is actually him on top of
my mother, choking her and um,I didn't remember that memory

(07:57):
until probably six years ago orsomething.
And then the second memory ofhim is like him getting the belt
and stuff and I'm.
He left when I was three orfour to like never saw him again
after that too, you know so.
And then my mom's just tryingto be, you know, not abused and
be secure in herself.
So, like I had that anxiety, youknow, growing up, growing up,

(08:22):
and then my mom was not homeoften because she's out working
this job, that job, you know,trying to find a man to support
her as well.
And so I observed a lot of thatstuff.
You know, this dude, that dude,whatever, you know what I mean.

(08:45):
And like I was over at mygrandparents' house quite often,
or I was home with my brotherand we were by ourselves and
we're just kids, you know and alot of raising of ourselves
happened Right Like um, but itwasn't the worst thing ever.
You learn how to.
You know make some food, make asandwich, you know, do what you

(09:07):
need to do to figure stuff out.
But anyhow, eventually my momended up meeting my stepfather
and he's a major in the army,you know going through his own
divorce at this time, you know,going through his own divorce at
this time and you know verystrict, is frustrated because

(09:29):
he's going through his own shitand everything, and so and he's
got two young kids of his ownright and actually a daughter
who wasn't even one yet, youknow, when she came into our
lives.
But um, he came in, you know,wanted to change everything

(09:54):
right, like not.
We were pretty wild, I would say.
I mean, I wouldn't even say Iwas wild, just being a kid.
You know what I mean, not doinganything malicious or whatever
in my mind.
But what ended up happeningwithin six months of knowing him
and like how?
You know, he was terrifying.
You know Um, he picked us upand moved us from you know

(10:20):
everything that we knew, an hourplus away, and you know it did
give us more opportunities forsure, from where we did live,
you know.
But anyways, I was, you know,straight A's prior to that.
Then we moved.
I'm getting C's, d's and F's.
I'm terrified to be at home,like I'm, you know.
And then, because you'regetting C's, d's and f's, I'm

(10:41):
terrified to be at home, likeI'm, you know.
And then, because you'regetting c's, d's and f's and he
is who he is, like it's not goodenough.
And then I have a brother who's, like you know, genius level,
you know, college level, classesin high school, smart as well.
So anyways, you know throughoutthat it's basically being, you

(11:01):
know being, you know, mentallyabused, physically abused, all
that stuff isolated forliterally months in my room at
times, you know.
You just, you're justprogrammed to tell yourself that
you're not worthy of love orlove or you know all of that.

(11:27):
You know not worthy of many,many things, right and um.
So what you do is you, you know, you search all over the place
for it and you numb and you doall that.
And when I was so I knew one ofthe things like to get approval
.
Like no one in my family isathletic whatsoever but I knew
to get approval from him like itwas through that because he was

(11:48):
all about sports and everything.
So like that was my main focusand it really like sell that it
because my mind is already goinga thousand miles an hour, you
know, but that stuff it I cankeep, I can keep up with all
that.
You know what I mean like.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
What sports did you used to play?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
football, baseball, basketball, yeah, I ran track,
oh, you know, and and yeah, buteven through that, like I
realized too, like'm not, yeah,it's healthy for me to do that
stuff, but I'm not even doing itfor me, you know, I'm doing it

(12:25):
to like kind of stay safe, ifthat makes sense, you know.
And then, throughout thisentire time, you know when I
started selling, I started usingdrugs, um, when I was 13, I
want to say something like that.
And then I was 14, the firsttime I did LSD.

(12:45):
I mean you know what I mean.
So it's like.
And then I sold from, you know,15 till I was 24.
And then you know, alcohol,drugs, the entire time.
You know I was with the samedrugs the entire time.
You know I was with the samesince I was 17,.
I was with the same girl for 19years after that, okay, but

(13:09):
then even throughout that, likeI'm still battling all my shit.
You know what I mean Stillracing a thousand miles an hour,
still numbing all the time,still doing all that Right, and
and it's because, like I didn'tknow what the hell I was doing.
I was so unaware, you know, andyou know I've talked, did talk

(13:31):
to therapists.
You know as an adult.
I never had the opportunitywhen I was a kid, which would
have been like a lot better, butit just wasn't the case.
You know and yeah, you can.
You know, you can hearsomething a thousand times until
it clicks, until you realize itright.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
We pause there for a moment yeah yeah yeah I
literally was just recording acourse and I just the last
module before I got on here.
I just repeated that exact samesentence because it has

(14:08):
happened to me over and, overand over again and I could be
hearing the same thing for thepast 10 years.
But I have a conversation withyou right now.
It's like boom yep I know whatthat means now yeah, and even,
and even then, you have theawareness that there's layers

(14:30):
and depth, and and you couldrevisit that same concept and
just gain a brand newunderstanding yeah, absolutely
sorry to no, it's totally fine,really wanted to make a point of
that, because it's nocoincidence that it came up
twice today.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, right, right yeah, nothing is a coincidence
at all.
Um, but then where was I?
So, yeah, with with the samewoman, you know, for 19 years.
But even throughout that, likeour marriage, you know, started
to go to shit and I didn't knowhow to communicate because I I
was like had my voice taken awayas a kid, you know.

(15:12):
And so you know she's trying tocommunicate, you know, because,
I mean, it's proven that womenare actually smarter than men
they have you might get somefire for that it's actually,
it's a thing you know, but, likeum, she's trying to communicate

(15:34):
.
I don't know how I'm shuttingdown.
I'm getting lit up.
All you know what I mean drunkand stuff just numbing until it
came to the point of, like youknow, I'm going to lose my
family, you know.
And then I was just like okaylike I don't want that, so I'm
going to quit.
And I did, you know, justimmediately, didn't need any

(15:58):
rehab or whatever.
You know just knew I didn'twant to lose that.
But, like even after I did that,I think that there was like a
caretaker aspect from her.
Once I, once she didn't need tobe my caretaker, then like it,
we even got more separated.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
100%.
It makes sense yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And, um, so yeah, then I like was seeking outside
of the marriage and Isuccessfully did numerous times
and all this stuff.
Once again didn't know how tocommunicate.
So I'm wearing all these masksthat I've made right throughout
my life and and they were out ofnecessity, you know, but you

(16:43):
just go through your life, youdon't know what the fuck you're
doing or anything, and I'malways in, you know, survival
mode and panicked and anxietyall the time, and I had no idea
what life was like, not livingin anxiety.
I had no clue, you know.

(17:07):
Um, but now, learning all thestuff that I've learned, I mean
I'm so thankful that I know.
You know the, the tools to getthrough the, to calm your body.
You know the somatic work, allthe stuff like and be able to
teach it.
It's, you know, too little.

(17:28):
Allow people to live, you know,fulfilled lives, the lives that
they want to live, andliterally like and because my
whole thing too, like I said, Ididn't have a voice right, so
that was a huge thing toovercome, period, and even
saying what I needed to say like, okay, so, selling drugs, like
yeah, it was fucking asshole alot of people, but like I found
myself, you know with females,like treating them like, even

(17:56):
when they would do stupid shit.
You know what I mean.
Like like oh, it's okay.
Oh, it's okay.
Like no, it's not okay like Ineed to say you know what I mean
.
And then like so that's what itwas like in the relationships
following my divorce.
You know what I mean.
And but then I then I realized,you know, hey, I'm the one

(18:17):
attracting this stuff, you, youknow, like it's me.
Okay, I had this knowledge.
Now, right Now, it's my job tofix.
Okay, like I need to be thecaretaker I need to fix you,
like, so what is it inside of methat that's that's attracting
this?
Right?
Right, well, it was my need tobe needed, you know, and instead

(19:12):
of loving myself, instead ofneeding myself.
And you know, because, evenknowing this stuff, like I said,
you can say it a thousand times, you can even teach this.
You know what I mean, until,and and you might not even know
fully what it means, right, butyou know all the right words and
everything and you understandhow it all works and everything.
But until, like, you realizeinside of yourself, you know,
not that it's not valuable,because it certainly is, but
it's more valuable, you know,and more authentic when you
actually you know, realizeinside of yourself right so

(19:35):
let's talk about authenticityand confidence, because I feel
is that okay?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
yeah, yeah, absolutely I feel like a lot of
us, um were, we were taking ourvoice away in some sense or
another.
During childhood, a lot of us,um had a fear of being seen,
being heard.
Um, and a lot of us, whether itwas through whatever

(20:02):
circumstance, our confidence wasshattered.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Right.
So I believe that this lowself-worth and lack of
authenticity to name itsomething is something that, as
a collective humanity to name itsomething is something that, as
a collective humanity, we havethe opportunity, once you start
doing the work, to re-sit withthat, re-look at that and embody

(20:30):
your true essence and your trueauthenticity, which has always
been there.
But, like you said, so manymasks and so many things have
obscured that pureness of thatessence.
So for a long time I waslooking to become that future

(20:53):
version of me, that empoweredgoddess version of me outside of
me, and it never worked becauseit was out there, right, um?
And once you tap into the coreof who you are, you become

(21:19):
completely unshakable.
You become so grounded.
You know yourself at such adeep level because you've sat
with your darkness, with yourlight, with a shadow.
You've explored yourself, yourwounds.
You're not running anymore.
You're not numbing anymore.
You're not bypassing anymore.

(21:40):
You're sitting with all of it.
You're exploring.
You're not numbing anymore,you're not bypassing anymore.
You're sitting with all of it.
You're exploring, you're doingintrospection, you're breaking
it down and there comes a pointwhere you become who you've
always been.
If it doesn't make any sense,just forget it because Spanish
is my first language, but you'vealways been that powerful,

(22:03):
being, authentic, being.
It's like if you had mudcovering you and you're just
like peeling all the stuff andyou're allowing your light right
to shine out of your heart andyour voice to be heard.
Um, and I feel, as a collective, a lot of us are going through
that right now and it's aprocess you know until my last

(22:27):
breath that I am remembering whothe fuck I am.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly right.
It's just remembering howpowerful you actually are, you
know yeah, but not from an egostandpoint.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
No right is.
This is just reclaiming yoursovereignty, your birthright.
Like you're, you know what Imean I do um know you do, I know
that, you know that, I knowthat we know that you do, yeah,
so have you had issues with that, with authenticity, confidence,

(23:05):
kind of like?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh shit, Let me tell you about that so go for it,
absolutely so there is.
So, you know, the awakeningprocess never really stops.
You're just constantly learningmore and you're only awakening
to yourself the entire time, youknow.
And so I'm going through thisawake, you know the divorce, all

(23:27):
that stuff, and then you knowthat's it takes a long time to
get over that, first of all,right, and, and so I'm learning
all these spiritual teachings,like I mean, I'm in it, you know
, like the stuff, and I'm likethe.
The one who resonated,resonated with me the most, was

(23:48):
wayne dyer, okay, and so I meanI read all the books, listened
to all the, you know videos onYouTube, all the stuff, and I'm
just like man, he seems sopeaceful, like that's how I have
to be and, like I said before,you know the relationships that

(24:08):
I was in and stuff like, oh,it's okay, and I don't
understand.
Yeah, I understand, but likeyou can also say, like, be
assertive.
Being assertive is okay, youknow you don't have to be an
asshole, but you can beassertive and you can still
understand why they're doingwhat they're doing or whatever
you know.
But you can also haveboundaries, right, and I didn't

(24:29):
have them in many cases, youknow.
And so and here I am, you knowthe imposter syndrome thing too,
and I'm like, oh, like I'mgoing through this in my own
life, so how the hell can Iteach this?
You know, like I'm I'm likekind of doing the opposite of
what I'm teaching, so, like,does that make it less authentic
?
Whatever it's like no, itdoesn't.

(24:51):
You know, like we all struggle,we all go through things, you
know.
Even you know Wayne Dyerhimself had been divorced twice
and all the stuff I mean it'slike you know can we pause?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
there is that yeah, okay, yeah so I'm currently.
It has to do with what you said.
Don't worry, I'm not gonna yeahyeah, necessarily make it about
me, but I have to give theexample.
So I am working with a sponsorto work over a food addiction

(25:28):
because I have tried to loseweight since 2020.
I never had an issue withweight until 2020 and then
everything shifted for me andthen I just had issues with that
and I tried many times tochange my habits with food and
my relationship to with food andI just haven't been able to.
And he is a very, very specialfriend, dan um, and he helps
people with any kind ofaddiction, um, but he had never

(25:50):
helped anyone with foodaddiction and we're still doing
the 12-step process likealcoholic anonymous process.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .

Speaker 1 (26:02):
And in the book, one of the beautiful thing is that
the person that a lot of peoplefelt that helped them the most
was another alcoholic.
Most was another alcoholic.
So you're trying to teach thestuff but a lot of the times you

(26:23):
see yourself yourself reflectedin the teacher and you see the
teachers reflected on thestudent.
Right, we are walking the pathtogether.
You know, it's like you walkthrough the fire.
It doesn't mean you're exemptfrom walking to the next fire,
it's just one of them, one ofthe infinite fires.
It's like man, I already walkedthrough that one.

(26:45):
If you want, you know, I couldlend you a hand, I could walk
with you, and a lot of the timesthat accountability and that
relationship that is built withsomeone that is going through
divorce, for example I meanyou're coaching for someone
that's going through the warsright now it's like gold.
Like you know, I'm in it withyou.

(27:07):
We're we're getting throughthis together, um.
So thank you for bringing thatup in regards to coaching,
because a lot of that's realcoaching in my opinion you know,
standing up at a pedestalsaying you're a guru, your life
is perfect, you have it allfigured out.
Come learn from me.

(27:27):
Bullshit, I'm so sick of it.
Right, I respect your knowledge, all of that stuff, because we
all have a lot of beautifulthings to share with the world,
but no one could tell you how tolive your life or what you need
to do, when you need to do it,how you need to do it.

(27:48):
Better than you, better thanyour soul, better than the
information that is within you,there is no coach that can tell
you that.
Right, we can give you tons ofresources and many things that
can help you in the journey.
You've helped me.
I have helped you in other waysI feel, like it has been
reciprocal yes

Speaker 2 (28:07):
um, but ultimately it comes down to us we are our own
best guides all the time youknow yeah it's just okay to ask
for help and it's okay to askfor support, but yeah, yep, it's
.
And that's the hardest.

(28:28):
Like you know, going throughthis process, right in any
process, that is difficult, likelife, life changing stuff,
where you know you need to makesome changes.
You know, um, because the sameshit keeps happening over and
over again, because nothing's,you're not doing anything, you
know to change.
So the hardest thing to do islike look in the mirror and own

(28:48):
your shit.
You know, like what did I do?
You know what I mean.
And then, like once you do that, like you're very honest with
yourself and you're very honestwith whomever was affected by it
.
You know, like it's very easyto release and then, and then
it's easy to recognize stuffeven coming, you know, in the

(29:09):
future, like you can hey, I'vedone this before, I can do this
again like Like I'm not perfect,I'm not expecting to be perfect
but like I can, I can openlytalk about this stuff and own my
stuff and, you know, realizehow that's affecting other
people as well and talk to themabout it.
You know 100%.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love the way you put it.
Tell me a little bit about whatyou do now, uh, how you help
people like what, what yourcoaching looks like, whatever
you want to share, and howpeople could find you also.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, so my coaching is really staying in alignment.
You know alignment coaching andit's just recognizing these
things with inside of yourself.
You know that's what it is.
It's always about how you feel.
You know that's what it is.
It's always about how you feel.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know, don't do shit you don't want to do.
You know Sounds simple, but notso simple, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I know, right, and that is actually you stepping
into your authentic self as well, staying in alignment.
Right, because when we're notauthentic, that's when all this
other shit happens Right, wherewe allow this stuff to occur.
When we're not authentic,that's when all this other shit
happens right, where we allowthis stuff to occur, but we're
not even conscious of it veryoften, you know, and it's this

(30:25):
balance with inside of ourselves, you know, when we fill our own
cup and we're fulfilled on ourown, that is when we can truly
give to the other people.
That's when it's real, you know, and it's not from a place of
lack or codependency or whatever.
You know, it is, but it's.
It's.
That is what I do.

(30:47):
I help people fully realizethemselves, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yes, that's wonderful , and we it's easier if we do it
together.
It's harder than we do it alone.
I know it kind of almost feelslike I contradict the go within
versus the seeking for help, butit actually goes hand in hand.
Um, because you seek for help,you go within.

(31:15):
You seek for help, you gowithin.
You seek for help, you gowithin.
Right, it's, it's a an ebb andflow.
It's it's a constant expansion.
Um, right, so we're going to do, if you're open to it, um, the
part two of this interview, um,as a, as a free masterclass.

(31:36):
So, guys, if you want to get intouch with, and how can they
get in touch with?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
you, yeah, yeah, yeah .
My uh, spiritual pathcoachingcom, or my Instagram is
Judd underscore Fink.
Um, my email is J Fink atspiritual path coachingcomcom.
Those are the ways you can geta warning.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
All right, sounds wonderful.
We're going to put it in thedescription below as well, so
they can just click it and goright to it as well.
All right, so stay tuned, guys.
Go check out the master class.
And you have somebody here,beautiful.
I've worked with him.
He is an honest soul, verytransparent, beautiful energy as

(32:19):
well.
So if you're just listening tothis, I would encourage, go
check out the video so you cankind of put a face to the name
and kind of check it out as well, and go from there.
If it resonates, you know, givehim a call or whatever, and
start working with somebody thatfeels that resonates with you.

(32:40):
Right, we don't have to do italone.
Well, thank you so much.
It's an honor to have you onthe podcast and thank you.
Let's jump on to part two.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, let's go.
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