October 29, 2024 • 42 mins
I stand on the outside - watching and listening in - because the acoustics are much better when isolated from human noise. I prefer to spend time one-to-one with the animals I read, or to work through the silence of photographs.
My time with the Hopi came about because of this nature; they were able to recognize me in part by my hanging-back. They invited me in, and I entered only slowly over the course of years.
After spending a decade clearing trauma for human clients in the noisy city and another decade living among the Hopi where silent telepathic understanding was essential for my acceptance there and healing work, I now continue to prefer isolation back in the city quietly calling on the highest vibration available to assist me in accessing the hidden wishes, joy and often pain unnoticed beneath the performative nature of our modern lifestyle with animals.
I wait to hear clearly before proceeding during my psychic sessions with animals. This makes me a trustworthy, subtle translator of your animals’ personality and of the deepest desires they wish you to know.
This has resulted in a particular ability to relay the 'spiritual story' between you and your animal, alongside their particular needs and wishes, some of which may have been unintentionally overlooked during busy lives. This results in an exponentially closer, satisfying growth with our magical companions.
For those who wish to support native knowledge, you may send monetary donations directly to the Hopi Tribal Government at the Office of the Hopi Tribal Treasurer, P.O. Box 123, Kykotsmovi, AZ 86039 or inquire by calling (928) 734-3122.
I offer at no charge, "My Ideal Forever Home" readings for difficult-to-place rescues. After you have done all the hard work of addressing medical issues and providing love and fostering, you may end up wondering exactly what type of home will really work for animals which have been returned to you once or more by adopting families. You know you have done all you can. Why not ask the animal directly? Free of charge (with pleasure) to rescue organizations of any size.
As I have done these readings, the most unexpected and surprising things have been communicated to make it easy to put out a call for just that style of forever person & home.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi Lily, Welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master Podcast
.
A pleasure to have you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi, rosalia, it's so good to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Thank you so much for being here.
I'm really excited to learnabout you, your hero's journey,
how you got to where you aretoday and some of the cool
things I've heard that you cando as well.
So please share with usanything that excites you.
Go ahead Anything, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So it's.
It's an interesting backgroundand I have to start a way back.
I used to do breath work,similar to you, but I did it
around trauma it wastrauma-based only and this was
many, many moons ago andsubsequently started journeying
(00:51):
for soul retrieval.
Didn't do a lot with that, butI did a lot for myself.
And then there was such a highfrequency coming through when I
was doing my hands-on breathwork.
I did body work at the same timeas breathwork, so I was
physically putting my hands onpeople and at a certain point I
(01:11):
realized that these amazingthings that were happening under
my hands they weren't me,what's happening here?
And I realized I was steppingaside and Christ energy was
coming through and doing all ofit.
And all I had was steppingaside and Christ energy was
coming through and doing all ofit, and all I had to do was sit
back, and so that was a verypowerful conversion for me,
(01:35):
having not been brought up inany religion, which I'm thankful
about, because I had nopreconceived idea of anything.
So I walked with that fordecades.
And then I also was veryhonored when I burned out,
actually doing body work in thatsuper high frequency.
I wasn't ready for it and Icouldn't live in the city and
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have that high frequency goingthrough me.
So I kind of burned out and Ifollowed a very deep hero's
journey, which was just a lovethat I had for the Hopi people.
And I went there and, as I tendto do with all humans, I stood
around the edges and just peekedin because I don't really join,
(02:19):
I'm not a joiner andimmediately was taken in by a
family and adopted as a Hopidaughter and allowed to live
there for almost a decade andspent most of that time sitting
with my Hopi mother you havemany mothers in the Hopi way,
but one in particular that I wasvery close to and lived in her
(02:43):
home and all the layers juststarted coming off.
I had a very traumaticchildhood, you know, lots and
lots of trauma, so that was allpeeling away which had already
started doing my, you know manyyears of doing trauma release.
But the thing I loved the mostwas that we didn't really speak,
(03:06):
words weren't necessary,everything was happening
telepathically, unless somebodyjust cracked a joke and then the
entire group would just, youknow, go up in flames of
laughter and then go back tobeing telepathic, allopathic.
(03:29):
So I was there about a decadeand was still walking an inner
journey, not only with my deeprespect and following learning
the Hopi way, but this Christ inme, and that's a giving up, as
anyone who has walked, you know,or been close to Christ in that
way knows.
So gave my life over to that.
You know, whatever you want todo with me.
Well, of all things, he broughtme back to the city, which I
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was not prepared for, and I'vebeen in culture shock ever since
, and that's been a long timenow, and so I sort of retreated
very far into myself and Ithought I could get away with
hiding.
I thought I could get away withjust doing my thing at home,
because I write and what Ireally want to do is complete
(04:13):
some writing projects, but justwork jobs and like, not tell
anybody, because it would justfreak them out.
You know, if I exposed who Iwas, it would freak people out
in this town that I live in.
So I got sicker.
Of course you can't hide whoyou are and people could feel it
anyway, and they just didn'tknow what to make of me.
So, long story short, I finallyrealized that I was experiencing
(04:37):
a lot of anger because it's sonoisy Modern American culture is
far, far too noisy for me.
So noisy Modern Americanculture is far, far too noisy
for me.
And after a long time with justretreating and retreating and
retreating, I realized thereason the noise bothers me so
much and the culture bothers mein particular so much is because
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the plants and the animals aretalking to me all the time and I
can't hear them.
If all that noise is happening,the noise of humanity, people
always wanting to tell youeverything that they know or
everything that they're goingthrough, I thought I was
autistic.
I actually took the test online,not with a doctor, no offense
(05:22):
to anyone who I'm not trying tosay I'm autistic but I thought
why am I so hypersensitive?
And I finally realized, by justgiving into that anger, kind of
recently, within the last year,I just got so angry that I
realized why, and then I let goand then I didn't try to hear
(05:50):
anything except the animals andrealized they've been talking to
me for a very long time.
So I've been working as a dogwalker and a pet carer and doing
trauma release on animals, butnow I also do pet shamanism is
maybe a way to put it.
You know, call it what you willanimal communicator, pet
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psychic a journey with theanimals in the way that I used
to journey with soul retrievaland ask them what they need.
So the emphasis of what I dowith animal communication is
finding out if they haveeverything that they need from
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us, and they say the mostamazing things.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That is so beautiful.
So let's start peeling thelayers, is that okay?
Can I jump in?
That is so beautiful.
So let's start peeling thelayers, is that okay?
Can I jump in?
Okay, first of all, I want totell you that you just reminded
me that I would love to put youin contact with a friend who
does something very similar towhat you do, and I recently
interviewed her.
So I would love for you guys tobe friends and talk and hit it
(07:02):
off.
I'm sure something beautiful isgoing to pop out of that.
That's one thing.
Next thing so you were livingwith the Hopi tribe.
Where was this?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is in Northern Arizona.
Their reservation has beenencroached on all sides by the
larger Navajo reservation andthey for anyone who wants to
help they're actually sufferingquite a bit, being cut off,
having work, having ways to makeincome.
So they have stayed very trueto their.
(07:35):
They're considered the closestto the Anasazi as their
ancestors and they have stayedextremely sacred.
You know there's no photographyallowed, no sketching allowed.
They don't just let anyone comeand stay or be on the
reservation.
So yeah, they're.
They're feeling the pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Beautiful.
Thank you for sharing that withus.
If anybody wants to contributeto them, you can give me um, a
link or something that maybe, ifthey're more interested, they
can kind of look into that andI'll send something.
Send something description,yeah, in case anybody wants to
support them that way.
Number two where do you live?
(08:18):
You don't have to be specific,but just kind of I live in the
great state of Utah, unitedStates.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Okay beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So I can relate to what you're saying a lot from
retrieving, doing a lot of innerwork and then trying to
incorporate back into society asnormal as we can possibly be.
So here's what I found inregards to me and um, I think
(08:48):
both of us serves as mirrors,really, um, for each other,
because you're reminding me alot of what's still in me.
So you know certain aspects ofit and I'll tell you a little
bit of how I've dealt with it,just to to to talk about it.
So the way I did it is afterall of these, especially after
my near death, it was sodifficult to live here in Miami,
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which is, I mean, the noise,like you say, it's overwhelming
the amount of hours that we putinto work you know that is, it's
just our regular 3d job, forexample.
It's annoying your soul missionand not being able to fully do
your soul mission, waiting onthat divine timing and trusting
(09:38):
the divine plan and the processright For for your perfect
timing to be here, to for you tofully step in, because you
already embodied your upgrades.
You're already embodied a lotof the qualities of your higher
self, a lot of the wisdom ofyour higher self, so now you're
basically just kind of merging.
You know all your gifts merging, yeah, so that merging can be
(10:02):
great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But trying to merge with the, I tend to set people
off.
It's like popcorn popping allaround me and I don't.
I just want to go to the store.
I'm not trying to heal you whenI'm there and I'm not saying
I'm some amazing, you know.
But people really feel achallenge.
Like you said, you know there'sa mirror, not Like you said,
you know there's a mirror, notonly you and I.
(10:24):
But we sort of hold up a mirrorto them without meaning to,
just by the vibration that we'rewalking around in.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Correct.
So what I've done is stay in myfull power, no matter what.
I love it.
That is it.
I love it.
I am done people pleasing.
I am done doing what my familythinks I should do, what my
anyone thinks I should do.
Yes, I'm weird.
I'm unique.
(10:53):
So are all of us.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And the more that we step fully into that, I think,
the more gifts that we can bringto humanity.
Like, why are we all trying tofit into this world, whatever
this mold, this matrix right?
Most of our, of the change,that agents of change, that
we're going to be and we'regoing to make in the new world
(11:16):
that we're creating orco-creating with source, is by
that, by being unique, by fullystepping in your gift into your
uniqueness, into all the wisdomthat has been, has always been
there, but we've forgotten okayall these ancestral medicines,
all this ancestral knowledge.
(11:37):
So now it's being brought backto the city through you.
So just fully, fully, reallystepping into your fucking full
container.
Yeah, like this I'll take it orleave it.
Yeah absolutely, especially withfamily.
(11:57):
I feel for me has been achallenge because, yes, I now
they can see I'm operatingcompletely different.
I'm a different person.
My ideas are different, the wayI behave is different, my
habits, all of that.
So I love that.
I had a women's circle yesterdaywith the women in my family,
about 12 of us, for the firsttime, and it was very.
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All of us are from differentreligions.
I don't have any particularreligion.
My religion is love, but all ofus are from very different
religions and so set on stone onthat.
So to be able to come togetherand that's the first thing I
(12:40):
said, we're going to cometogether in love, without
respecting everyone's view, justfor the sake of love, of the
love that we have for each other, of our family, of supporting
each other, and miracles startedto happen, healing started to
happen.
They started to open up aboutmental health, suicidal
ideations, abuse, all of it thathas never been spoken about
before.
So us being in the city, whichis it's a long story of how I
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kind of I see how I'm making mylittle seed of remembrance in
the city.
It's not where I want to be,but maybe it's where source
needs me to be.
Maybe it's where my higher selfneeds me to be for as part of
one step in my plan and my soulplan to develop.
I just can't see the entireblueprint, but I could see today
(13:24):
.
And then today I'm here, you'rein the city, it is what it is.
We do the best we can, we shinethrough whatever we have.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, and I believe you know, much of my misery came
from expecting to be understood, and it wasn't until I fully
stepped into and it was justsuch a little step when I
finally took it oh I, thesenoises are competing with the
animals who are talking to me.
Then I relaxed and I no longerhad this expectation that people
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were going needed to understandme.
I was still bringing with me,you know, because I can see
trauma, you know, I, I'm a bodyscanner and I did it for so long
.
Of course I can look at someoneand see where they're holding
their trauma, but withoutjudgment.
But I was still trying tofigure out how to fit in, you
know, to the culture.
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I didn't want to do that workanymore.
I didn't know what my gift was.
I didn't know what my, what Iwas doing now, and now I do know
, and so now I'm quitecomfortable.
I'm getting weirder every timeI step out the door because I
really do.
I mean, I'm there for thepuppies and the birdies and the
kitties and the reptiles and,you know, the chinchillas that
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my clients have, and so I'mcomfortable.
I'm much more comfortable in myskin since I dropped into this
new gift Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
So let's dive right into that, because I'm very
interested in what you do.
So a question I have is, forexample, if you notice that, two
questions in one if your pethas some kind of injury, let's
say, are you able to do anythinglike communicate, see what it
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needs or maybe provide some typeof energy healing to it, or is
it more like behavior, wise,like you know, when maybe
animals need some type oftraining and maybe they're not
getting what they need to getbetter, like how does?
If you could tell us just alittle bit more?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So one thing I will say and I'm sure this is true
for all animal communicators Forone thing, animals are going to
talk to you in your language,so they're going to talk to me
in things, about things I haveexperience with.
They may tell me other things,but just like it's easier to
speak to a friend about I don'tknow beauty products, if that
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person knows a lot about them,I'm going to talk about those
things.
So they talk to me a lot abouthow they need to be healed and
also because I'm such anadvocate for them having
whatever they want, whether it'sa crystal that they want in
their flight cage or they wantto always have something behind
them I'm talking about birds inparticular right now because
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they you know they would be withtheir back against a tree if
they were in the wild orsomething.
You know things like that tomake them comfortable.
But a lot of the animals I workwith tell me where they're
hurting and they tell me howtheir owner can help them.
Seems like a lot of the workthat they do with me is about
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bonding them with their human.
So a lot of humans get verynervous and sort of pull back
when they don't know what theiranimal needs.
One of the most beautifulthings about getting an animal
communicator to help at thatmoment when you can't maybe calm
yourself down enough to hearbecause I believe all of us can
communicate with animals, andespecially with those that we've
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welcomed into our lives but ifyou get an animal communicator
to help you with that, I can seeclearly.
They're always showing me righthere, push, tell her to push,
right here.
I have this sore spot here.
Or, you know, I never diagnose,of course, medically, but
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they'll tell me if they need tobe seen by a veterinarian.
I've had animals tell me that asupplement that I was giving
them was out of date.
They still wanted thesupplement, but I hadn't checked
the date.
Gosh, so many things thatthey'll talk to me about.
But they also always like toshare about their specific
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reason for being with thatspecific person, which is
incredibly beautiful specificperson, which is incredibly
beautiful.
It's so touching.
It is yeah, yeah, oh, my God,that hit me.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
I've had a multi-animal,multi-person household.
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I had one animal tell mespecifically who they were there
for and why, and what theywanted this person to learn on a
deeper communication level, andthat person has struggles with
ADD and it's become this placewhere they both go together to
calm and to hear a deeperlanguage.
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And this animal told me healready knows this language,
this deeper, calmer.
I'm here to help them speak it.
He doesn't know that he hasthis.
This human doesn't know that hecan go to this calmer.
So they talked to me about allsorts of things and they're
hilarious.
I mean they'll be talking aboutsomething deep like that and
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the next minute they're sayingthey're making fun of their
human like some little joke.
They love to say they have asense of humor.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I love that that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, in terms of trying to explain to people,
this is such a great opportunitybecause, in terms of trying to
explain to people what I do andhow it can be useful, there
really is a broad range ofthings that animals tell me and
I would just say, first andforemost, it's about their
connection to their human.
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That's what they tell me isabout how the human can connect
more with the animal and viceversa, that is absolutely
beautiful and we'll leave in thedescription a way to get a hold
of you.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So, if anybody wants to and I'm going to I'm going to
jump into plants because plantsis something that I've
personally worked with for likethe last six years.
So animals I still don'tremember how to communicate with
them.
Uh, it's a work in progress.
I am hoping in the near future,especially because it has come
around again and again and again.
(20:08):
So I typically find thesesynchronicities as hey, try to
tap into that and see how thatworks for you, but I'm not quite
there yet.
But with plants, I am verycomfortable working with plants,
with the spirit of the plant,speaking to the plants and just
being a student of the plants,basically because they have so
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much wisdom, so much knowledge.
I'll share a little bit andthen, if you can share a little
bit about your experience, thatwould be awesome Because, as
weird as we may sound, I'mpretty sure we're not the only
ones.
So, and even if we are the onlyones, welcome After us, many
more will come then.
Okay, and many more willremember that's okay too.
(20:52):
We could be pioneers ofwhatever, but I know many people
that do it as well.
Okay, especially ancestralmedicines, shamans, all this
stuff.
This is their bread and butter.
Like this is what part of whatthey do it's.
It's been there for eons, um,and now um, basically in this
incarnation.
Just kind of re-remembering mywork um with the plants again,
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um, for example, um, not onlypsychedelic medicine, um, cause
I don't want to make it justabout psychedelics, because
psychedelics is not somethingthat um is called for, everybody
Um, it's a very personal pathum to take um, but not only
psychedelics, also non-ps, nonpsychedelics.
So on the psychedelic side, likeayahuasca, mushrooms and all
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these things, but then on thenon psychedelic side, I like I
worked with Bowie and Sana, Iwork with Lupuna, I'm working
with spirulina now and like justdifferent ones, I usually tend
to work with them for aboutthree months um, and receive all
of this wisdom, all of thisknowledge, um, and and from,
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yeah, and from there, kind oflike deepening my soul, work if
it makes sense, like with them,just like being one with the
spirit of the medicine andmeditating and actually meeting
them.
And it's very interestingbecause for my wife, um, the
same plant has showed up in adifferent form, which is also
very beautiful.
And another thing I have foundout is that it may show up a
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little bit different the essenceof the plant for you than for
me.
That's one thing I found outand another thing the plant may
represent also a lot of um, likewhat we would consider saints
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or energies and stuff like that,and some of those plants are
very much connected to thatenergy to certain certain ones.
So, I, I've come across that aswell Um, and to me, a lot of
these, um, energies, they'rebasically earth keepers in my
opinion.
Um, you know, in in the plantkingdom and to me, we can
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communicate with all thekingdoms mineral kingdom, animal
kingdom um all of that.
I have crystals I speak with,so I have.
I could do the crystals.
I could do the plants.
I'm not there with the animalsyet, but what has been your
experience with the plants, orwith plants and crystals?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, when you were speaking about not being there
with the animals yet, I haven'tattempted to have a two-way
conversation with plants.
They are talking to me.
I can walk past one and seewhat it needs and speak to it,
but I haven't ask them themessages that they have for me.
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So I surround myself with themwhen I'm out, you know, if I'm
at someone's house, I'mdistracted, like, oh, this plant
, I could get that thing shiningin a minute, you know.
And when you were talking aboutnot being there with animals
yet, just like you just said, Ibelieve that this wisdom hasn't
actually been lost.
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It's still here, it's waitingand it's waiting to be asked.
And one of the ways I helppeople who are interested in
learning how to communicate withanimals is by asking them to
have question and answersessions with their animals.
It's conversation in the sameway that you wouldn't want a
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spouse or someone in your lifeto just say do this, do this,
and when you do it, go.
Look, you did it.
Oh, let me give you a treat.
I mean, I'm being facetiousright now, but you just want
them to chat with you, you wantthem to listen to you, and
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that's how I start with allanimals.
So I do another kind oftraining.
I teach people to meditate withtheir animals to get on the
same wavelength, which isbeautiful too.
But I encourage them havelittle question and answer
sessions.
I'll go around and name thethings.
I know a lot of people do this.
I'll name the things in myhouse and I'll say what do you
think about this?
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You know, if I approach one ofmy birds I'll say what do you
think about this?
I'm going to put it in.
What do you think?
Do you want it, Do you not wantit?
And then I'll listen.
So it's just as simple as that.
It's just conversing and you'llstart to hear, and I think a
lot more people than realize itdo hear something.
You know, we all have differentclairs.
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We all experience a differentway of hearing or seeing or
tasting or knowing or feeling orscanning.
But whatever that animal iscommunicating to you, it's right
there.
But we often just don't askverbally.
I encourage people to askverbally.
Eventually it may becomenonverbal, but you're still
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projecting a question and thenlistening.
And when I do that with theseteeny, tiny finches that I have
that are this big and they'reall personalities, I may as well
have a high school class, alldifferent personalities, each of
these little guys.
And I have some that will justbe doing their birdie thing.
And then when I come up and askthem a question, that look me
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right in the eye, like deeply inthe eye, you know, and they're
like are you here to talk to meBecause I got something to tell
you?
And if I were to get nervousand not believe that they had
something to tell me, I mighttry to project what I thought
they needed onto them.
But if I just be still, allcreation, be still and listen,
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there's voices all around us.
We don't have to be listeningto the noise of engines and you
know whatever else modernculture is doing.
You can start right in your ownhome having this more magical
experience with all of creation,with your what we call pets.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's so beautiful and I will try to practice and I
will do a session with you andsee how it goes.
So, just so I can kind of startwith the right foot there, I
want to speak about your writing.
I love writing.
I've written two books, so Iwant to touch on that because I
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feel that you're someone who haswalked such a beautiful path
and that has so much to sharewith us, and I want you to share
it.
Just share it, just write it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Get it done.
It's a funny thing because Idon't share about my writing,
because it's sort of theopposite of all these beautiful,
sparkly things I'm talkingabout with the animals and the
Holy Spirit and plants and Ihave.
I came back from Hopi with acompletely different perspective
(28:08):
.
I was very uncomfortable inmodern American culture, which
is the reason I sought out myHopi family, hopi spiritual
family in the first place.
I mean, I was crumbling here.
I don't do well in modernAmerican culture, modern culture
kind of in general.
So there's a wisdom that Ibrought back which is not
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cultural appropriation.
I never talk about the NativeAmerican way.
You know anything that theytaught me, that's theirs.
But I came back with a morehoned sense of the things that
really set me off about ourmodern culture and I've been
trying to weave that knowledgein a non-confrontational way in
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different formats and I've beenwriting for many, many years and
I'm dedicated to part of whyit's so important for me, why
I'm so thrilled to have found mygift, that you know I can
actually support myself by doinganimal shamanism communication.
I can then dedicate myself moreconsistently and I don't know
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what form it's going to come outin.
But the reason I don't speakabout it is because people can
argue with my work when it comesout, if they have, if it sets
them off.
It's challenging, provocative ina way.
You know it provokes a feelingfrom people about well, this is
how we do things, you know.
Well, have you thought aboutdoing it this way?
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And because there's a part ofme that's very warrior like,
I'll let that come out in mywork and speak for itself.
I really hope to get to findenough support in my daily life
that I can do that, becausethere's a lot of illness within
the culture.
That's not individuals.
(29:58):
Individuals are yummy,wonderful, gifted, but the
culture's so you know, liketamping them down all the time
that I come in with my spear andpoke big holes in it and that,
like this huge whoosh, like astorm, comes out and I don't
want to be standing in the wayof any of that.
(30:18):
You know I pose it and peoplecan.
When I publish it, or online orhowever it comes, people can
get on there and say whateverthey want to say, but I'm going
to be away from the screen.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
All right, so cool.
Let me first of all I want toput you in contact with my
publisher.
You know I love.
You know I love putting myselfand others in uncomfortable
situations.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You've been through my breathwork stuff I like to
push people to the end of thepool and they're like I was so
excited when I found you, likethis girl doesn't waste any time
.
No, yep, no, yeah, where's thetime to waste, right, I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
it's infinite, but we're here, let's just get it
done.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, in this body, at this time, let's get it done.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, so I will put you in contact with Alan.
He is magnificent and I'm sureyou two will hit it off and the
project is going to be done inno time.
That's it, done deal.
Hey, thank you, yep, thank you,thank you, yep, thank you, I
could see it.
I could see it.
It has to go.
Listen my book, especially mysecond book.
It has been so controversial,especially and I'll say one
(31:30):
thing out of the many triggeringthings I said in the book.
I said the second coming ofChrist is coming through each
one of us, through our Christconsciousness.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That alone has set on fire oh.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So and so many other crazystuff I put on the book.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But that's OK.
Oh, I support it so much.
You know, as I learn to speakabout what I'm doing now, I
cannot tell a lie.
I hope so.
You know, people have guidesand spirit guides and animal
spirit guides and we go andjourney and we do this, but I
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spend a good portion of everyday listening to that same
answer and ask or question andanswer session with Holy Spirit.
Now, because I was never raisedin a religion and because my
conversion with when Christ cameand took me, it was like, you
know, like never, could forgetit.
I've never changed thatchildlike orientation to Holy
(32:35):
Spirit, even though I readscripture right, I want to know,
I want to learn and have donethis for decades.
And you know, maybe I alreadysaid this in this interview but
when Holy Spirit came originallyinto folks, they all started
speaking in tongues.
And who's to say that animalcommunication isn't another
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tongue, you know?
Or talking to plants isn't justa holy tongue and a wisdom
sharing?
And I feel like you know thegarden is speaking, it's calling
out, it needs humans.
Here we are supposed to be thecaretakers of the earth, have
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dominion.
But that should mean caretakingand it should mean asking and
then listening to the answer.
It's not that hard.
We really separate ourselves somany separations from wisdom.
That's just right in our hand.
Our little kitty, you know, askit, it will tell you amazing
(33:42):
things.
As you know, plants will tellyou everything.
All that earth knowledge to meis the same thing as spirit.
But talking about beingcontroversial, you know, talking
about using Holy Spirit as myspirit guide, hear the animals
talk.
At first it sounds like that'soutrageous.
(34:04):
You can't say they're whatever.
But isn't that what the garden?
Isn't that a tongue it's like?
So yeah, people will do with itwhat they will.
But one of the reasons I use theholiest of spirits as a
clearing house when animals talkto me is because I want to know
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that I'm in the highestvibration of love.
I don't want to mess upanything that they tell me with
my own anything or with myguides.
My guides are all creaturesthat I have known.
I don't personally deal withspirits I don't know, and that's
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because there would be so manycoming through my doors and
windows, like when I was apreteen.
I was like no, no, no, no, I'mway too vulnerable for that my
own situation in life.
I have to keep everything clearand I can always trust.
Holy, the holy, holy, holy.
Whatever that is for you, youknow you can't fool it, you
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can't trick it and you cannotlie to it and you can't change.
Do you hear how quiet my birdshave gotten all of a sudden?
When I'm talking about this,when I sit in scripture and in
Holy Spirit every morning, thisis what they do.
They go from being goofy person, they just hush.
I wish you could feel it.
(35:36):
You probably can, but I wishyou could feel it.
I'm surrounded by them and myplants and it's just like all of
creation has hushed to hear theLord speak.
It doesn't have to be thisdomination.
The more people who get moveaway from the idea of dominating
animals because they're nervousaround them and they think I
(35:57):
better tell them what to do andif they don't do it then I'm
going to get anxious the morethey move into thank you for
your.
Now they're saying, yes, that'sright, asking and receiving
messages, just however you do,and each person will do it
differently.
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Everyone will have their ownway of hearing and receiving and
communicating with the puppiesand the snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I love that.
That sounds beautiful.
Is there anything else you wantto share with our audience,
about yourself, about the workyou do?
Is there anything upcoming?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't know really anything that you want to share,
I do want to let people knowthat I do pro bono work with any
rescue anywhere, anytime whohas a specific animal that
they've tried to home and itkeeps getting returned or has
been.
You know it's a problem child.
They've tried to home and itkeeps getting returned or has
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been.
You know it's a problem childand it's the rescues here work
with me when their animal islike kind of hopeless, like I've
done some sessions with theseanimals to ask what they want in
a home, not who will take them,who's willing to deal with
their behaviors, but what is itthat they want?
And they tell me extraordinarythings.
(37:24):
I had an animal name of Grillwho told me he hated his name.
He had these teeth, that he wasone of those grill face dogs
you know tiny little thing withthat face and he said he wanted
a floral name, like a little oldlady, floral name because he
loves flowers.
So he would like a name likePetunia.
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He was really hurt by hisrescue name and he wanted to
live with a lady who gardened,you know, kind of a petite.
He wanted to live in a verymeticulous house.
He thought he would do wellwith a middle-aged gay man,
possibly because he would keepthe house very nice, but he
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himself.
It needed to be okay if he wasfilthy because he wanted to go
out and run around the dirt, buthe wanted things nice around
him.
Right?
They say the most amazingthings and consequently they're
able to be placed.
That you can look specifically,than a rescue can look
specifically for a householdthat will fulfill what the
animal wants.
Isn't that beautiful?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So I work with any rescue anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
anytime, I work from a photograph and I send the
readings via email.
I can work in person if that'sthere's some reason that needs
to be done, but I work fromphotographs.
And then also I wanted toextend to your listeners
specifically and of course, Iwant to offer you and your pup a
session.
But anyone who's listening tothis podcast, who has an animal
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in hospice or going into hospiceor getting close to that, who's
really you know that's startingto happen.
Moving on, it can be verydifficult for humans to put
their emotions aside and hearclearly.
They're so concerned.
We've all been through it.
You know that it's terrible tothink you don't know what your
animal needs.
So I'd like to also offer probono sessions for anyone who has
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an animal heading into hospiceand they really don't know what
if they're making their animalcomfortable, and in those
sessions, animals say someincredibly beautiful things that
they want their humans to knowbefore they go.
So that would be my honor towork with anyone in that
(39:41):
situation for free.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Wow, lily, I don't know what to say.
This has been magical.
I am so happy that you decidedto get on here.
Thank you, things learning fromeach other, sharing space,
sharing with other people aboutyour work.
Is there anything that you wantto share with your listeners to
(40:07):
like where they can find you,or do you prefer if I just put
it on the description below, ordo you have?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
You can put it on the on the description.
I just started a new Facebookpage.
I'm a little awkward with allof the technology and this and
that, but I'm hoping that peoplewill share their stories.
Right now there's not much onthere.
I'm going to start posting myown feelings and things on there
(40:33):
, and that is Lily chats withanimals, or no.
Sorry, see, I knew I would messit up If I tried to say it.
You'll get it right in thedescription animals, plural
animals chat with Lily.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh, I love that and we will put it in the
description below.
Guys, no worries, you can clickon that.
Thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I just love what you're doing.
I'm so honored that you wouldhave me on and I'm looking
forward to another breathworkshot workshop with you.
I hope it happens soon.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You too,
Hi Lily, Welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master Podcast
.
A pleasure to have you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi, rosalia, it's so good to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Thank you so much for being here.
I'm really excited to learnabout you, your hero's journey,
how you got to where you aretoday and some of the cool
things I've heard that you cando as well.
So please share with usanything that excites you.
Go ahead Anything, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So it's.
It's an interesting backgroundand I have to start a way back.
I used to do breath work,similar to you, but I did it
around trauma it wastrauma-based only and this was
many, many moons ago andsubsequently started journeying
(00:51):
for soul retrieval.
Didn't do a lot with that, butI did a lot for myself.
And then there was such a highfrequency coming through when I
was doing my hands-on breathwork.
I did body work at the same timeas breathwork, so I was
physically putting my hands onpeople and at a certain point I
(01:11):
realized that these amazingthings that were happening under
my hands they weren't me,what's happening here?
And I realized I was steppingaside and Christ energy was
coming through and doing all ofit.
And all I had was steppingaside and Christ energy was
coming through and doing all ofit, and all I had to do was sit
back, and so that was a verypowerful conversion for me,
(01:35):
having not been brought up inany religion, which I'm thankful
about, because I had nopreconceived idea of anything.
So I walked with that fordecades.
And then I also was veryhonored when I burned out,
actually doing body work in thatsuper high frequency.
I wasn't ready for it and Icouldn't live in the city and
(01:58):
have that high frequency goingthrough me.
So I kind of burned out and Ifollowed a very deep hero's
journey, which was just a lovethat I had for the Hopi people.
And I went there and, as I tendto do with all humans, I stood
around the edges and just peekedin because I don't really join,
(02:19):
I'm not a joiner andimmediately was taken in by a
family and adopted as a Hopidaughter and allowed to live
there for almost a decade andspent most of that time sitting
with my Hopi mother you havemany mothers in the Hopi way,
but one in particular that I wasvery close to and lived in her
(02:43):
home and all the layers juststarted coming off.
I had a very traumaticchildhood, you know, lots and
lots of trauma, so that was allpeeling away which had already
started doing my, you know manyyears of doing trauma release.
But the thing I loved the mostwas that we didn't really speak,
(03:06):
words weren't necessary,everything was happening
telepathically, unless somebodyjust cracked a joke and then the
entire group would just, youknow, go up in flames of
laughter and then go back tobeing telepathic, allopathic.
(03:29):
So I was there about a decadeand was still walking an inner
journey, not only with my deeprespect and following learning
the Hopi way, but this Christ inme, and that's a giving up, as
anyone who has walked, you know,or been close to Christ in that
way knows.
So gave my life over to that.
You know, whatever you want todo with me.
Well, of all things, he broughtme back to the city, which I
(03:50):
was not prepared for, and I'vebeen in culture shock ever since
, and that's been a long timenow, and so I sort of retreated
very far into myself and Ithought I could get away with
hiding.
I thought I could get away withjust doing my thing at home,
because I write and what Ireally want to do is complete
(04:13):
some writing projects, but justwork jobs and like, not tell
anybody, because it would justfreak them out.
You know, if I exposed who Iwas, it would freak people out
in this town that I live in.
So I got sicker.
Of course you can't hide whoyou are and people could feel it
anyway, and they just didn'tknow what to make of me.
So, long story short, I finallyrealized that I was experiencing
(04:37):
a lot of anger because it's sonoisy Modern American culture is
far, far too noisy for me.
So noisy Modern Americanculture is far, far too noisy
for me.
And after a long time with justretreating and retreating and
retreating, I realized thereason the noise bothers me so
much and the culture bothers mein particular so much is because
(04:59):
the plants and the animals aretalking to me all the time and I
can't hear them.
If all that noise is happening,the noise of humanity, people
always wanting to tell youeverything that they know or
everything that they're goingthrough, I thought I was
autistic.
I actually took the test online,not with a doctor, no offense
(05:22):
to anyone who I'm not trying tosay I'm autistic but I thought
why am I so hypersensitive?
And I finally realized, by justgiving into that anger, kind of
recently, within the last year,I just got so angry that I
realized why, and then I let goand then I didn't try to hear
(05:50):
anything except the animals andrealized they've been talking to
me for a very long time.
So I've been working as a dogwalker and a pet carer and doing
trauma release on animals, butnow I also do pet shamanism is
maybe a way to put it.
You know, call it what you willanimal communicator, pet
(06:13):
psychic a journey with theanimals in the way that I used
to journey with soul retrievaland ask them what they need.
So the emphasis of what I dowith animal communication is
finding out if they haveeverything that they need from
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us, and they say the mostamazing things.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That is so beautiful.
So let's start peeling thelayers, is that okay?
Can I jump in?
That is so beautiful.
So let's start peeling thelayers, is that okay?
Can I jump in?
Okay, first of all, I want totell you that you just reminded
me that I would love to put youin contact with a friend who
does something very similar towhat you do, and I recently
interviewed her.
So I would love for you guys tobe friends and talk and hit it
(07:02):
off.
I'm sure something beautiful isgoing to pop out of that.
That's one thing.
Next thing so you were livingwith the Hopi tribe.
Where was this?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is in Northern Arizona.
Their reservation has beenencroached on all sides by the
larger Navajo reservation andthey for anyone who wants to
help they're actually sufferingquite a bit, being cut off,
having work, having ways to makeincome.
So they have stayed very trueto their.
(07:35):
They're considered the closestto the Anasazi as their
ancestors and they have stayedextremely sacred.
You know there's no photographyallowed, no sketching allowed.
They don't just let anyone comeand stay or be on the
reservation.
So yeah, they're.
They're feeling the pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Beautiful.
Thank you for sharing that withus.
If anybody wants to contributeto them, you can give me um, a
link or something that maybe, ifthey're more interested, they
can kind of look into that andI'll send something.
Send something description,yeah, in case anybody wants to
support them that way.
Number two where do you live?
(08:18):
You don't have to be specific,but just kind of I live in the
great state of Utah, unitedStates.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Okay beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So I can relate to what you're saying a lot from
retrieving, doing a lot of innerwork and then trying to
incorporate back into society asnormal as we can possibly be.
So here's what I found inregards to me and um, I think
(08:48):
both of us serves as mirrors,really, um, for each other,
because you're reminding me alot of what's still in me.
So you know certain aspects ofit and I'll tell you a little
bit of how I've dealt with it,just to to to talk about it.
So the way I did it is afterall of these, especially after
my near death, it was sodifficult to live here in Miami,
(09:13):
which is, I mean, the noise,like you say, it's overwhelming
the amount of hours that we putinto work you know that is, it's
just our regular 3d job, forexample.
It's annoying your soul missionand not being able to fully do
your soul mission, waiting onthat divine timing and trusting
(09:38):
the divine plan and the processright For for your perfect
timing to be here, to for you tofully step in, because you
already embodied your upgrades.
You're already embodied a lotof the qualities of your higher
self, a lot of the wisdom ofyour higher self, so now you're
basically just kind of merging.
You know all your gifts merging, yeah, so that merging can be
(10:02):
great.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But trying to merge with the, I tend to set people
off.
It's like popcorn popping allaround me and I don't.
I just want to go to the store.
I'm not trying to heal you whenI'm there and I'm not saying
I'm some amazing, you know.
But people really feel achallenge.
Like you said, you know there'sa mirror, not Like you said,
you know there's a mirror, notonly you and I.
(10:24):
But we sort of hold up a mirrorto them without meaning to,
just by the vibration that we'rewalking around in.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Correct.
So what I've done is stay in myfull power, no matter what.
I love it.
That is it.
I love it.
I am done people pleasing.
I am done doing what my familythinks I should do, what my
anyone thinks I should do.
Yes, I'm weird.
I'm unique.
(10:53):
So are all of us.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And the more that we step fully into that, I think,
the more gifts that we can bringto humanity.
Like, why are we all trying tofit into this world, whatever
this mold, this matrix right?
Most of our, of the change,that agents of change, that
we're going to be and we'regoing to make in the new world
(11:16):
that we're creating orco-creating with source, is by
that, by being unique, by fullystepping in your gift into your
uniqueness, into all the wisdomthat has been, has always been
there, but we've forgotten okayall these ancestral medicines,
all this ancestral knowledge.
(11:37):
So now it's being brought backto the city through you.
So just fully, fully, reallystepping into your fucking full
container.
Yeah, like this I'll take it orleave it.
Yeah absolutely, especially withfamily.
(11:57):
I feel for me has been achallenge because, yes, I now
they can see I'm operatingcompletely different.
I'm a different person.
My ideas are different, the wayI behave is different, my
habits, all of that.
So I love that.
I had a women's circle yesterdaywith the women in my family,
about 12 of us, for the firsttime, and it was very.
(12:18):
All of us are from differentreligions.
I don't have any particularreligion.
My religion is love, but all ofus are from very different
religions and so set on stone onthat.
So to be able to come togetherand that's the first thing I
(12:40):
said, we're going to cometogether in love, without
respecting everyone's view, justfor the sake of love, of the
love that we have for each other, of our family, of supporting
each other, and miracles startedto happen, healing started to
happen.
They started to open up aboutmental health, suicidal
ideations, abuse, all of it thathas never been spoken about
before.
So us being in the city, whichis it's a long story of how I
(13:04):
kind of I see how I'm making mylittle seed of remembrance in
the city.
It's not where I want to be,but maybe it's where source
needs me to be.
Maybe it's where my higher selfneeds me to be for as part of
one step in my plan and my soulplan to develop.
I just can't see the entireblueprint, but I could see today
(13:24):
.
And then today I'm here, you'rein the city, it is what it is.
We do the best we can, we shinethrough whatever we have.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, and I believe you know, much of my misery came
from expecting to be understood, and it wasn't until I fully
stepped into and it was justsuch a little step when I
finally took it oh I, thesenoises are competing with the
animals who are talking to me.
Then I relaxed and I no longerhad this expectation that people
(13:59):
were going needed to understandme.
I was still bringing with me,you know, because I can see
trauma, you know, I, I'm a bodyscanner and I did it for so long
.
Of course I can look at someoneand see where they're holding
their trauma, but withoutjudgment.
But I was still trying tofigure out how to fit in, you
know, to the culture.
(14:21):
I didn't want to do that workanymore.
I didn't know what my gift was.
I didn't know what my, what Iwas doing now, and now I do know
, and so now I'm quitecomfortable.
I'm getting weirder every timeI step out the door because I
really do.
I mean, I'm there for thepuppies and the birdies and the
kitties and the reptiles and,you know, the chinchillas that
(14:42):
my clients have, and so I'mcomfortable.
I'm much more comfortable in myskin since I dropped into this
new gift Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
So let's dive right into that, because I'm very
interested in what you do.
So a question I have is, forexample, if you notice that, two
questions in one if your pethas some kind of injury, let's
say, are you able to do anythinglike communicate, see what it
(15:14):
needs or maybe provide some typeof energy healing to it, or is
it more like behavior, wise,like you know, when maybe
animals need some type oftraining and maybe they're not
getting what they need to getbetter, like how does?
If you could tell us just alittle bit more?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So one thing I will say and I'm sure this is true
for all animal communicators Forone thing, animals are going to
talk to you in your language,so they're going to talk to me
in things, about things I haveexperience with.
They may tell me other things,but just like it's easier to
speak to a friend about I don'tknow beauty products, if that
(15:55):
person knows a lot about them,I'm going to talk about those
things.
So they talk to me a lot abouthow they need to be healed and
also because I'm such anadvocate for them having
whatever they want, whether it'sa crystal that they want in
their flight cage or they wantto always have something behind
them I'm talking about birds inparticular right now because
(16:17):
they you know they would be withtheir back against a tree if
they were in the wild orsomething.
You know things like that tomake them comfortable.
But a lot of the animals I workwith tell me where they're
hurting and they tell me howtheir owner can help them.
Seems like a lot of the workthat they do with me is about
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bonding them with their human.
So a lot of humans get verynervous and sort of pull back
when they don't know what theiranimal needs.
One of the most beautifulthings about getting an animal
communicator to help at thatmoment when you can't maybe calm
yourself down enough to hearbecause I believe all of us can
communicate with animals, andespecially with those that we've
(16:59):
welcomed into our lives but ifyou get an animal communicator
to help you with that, I can seeclearly.
They're always showing me righthere, push, tell her to push,
right here.
I have this sore spot here.
Or, you know, I never diagnose,of course, medically, but
(17:19):
they'll tell me if they need tobe seen by a veterinarian.
I've had animals tell me that asupplement that I was giving
them was out of date.
They still wanted thesupplement, but I hadn't checked
the date.
Gosh, so many things thatthey'll talk to me about.
But they also always like toshare about their specific
(17:44):
reason for being with thatspecific person, which is
incredibly beautiful specificperson, which is incredibly
beautiful.
It's so touching.
It is yeah, yeah, oh, my God,that hit me.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
I've had a multi-animal,multi-person household.
(18:04):
I had one animal tell mespecifically who they were there
for and why, and what theywanted this person to learn on a
deeper communication level, andthat person has struggles with
ADD and it's become this placewhere they both go together to
calm and to hear a deeperlanguage.
(18:25):
And this animal told me healready knows this language,
this deeper, calmer.
I'm here to help them speak it.
He doesn't know that he hasthis.
This human doesn't know that hecan go to this calmer.
So they talked to me about allsorts of things and they're
hilarious.
I mean they'll be talking aboutsomething deep like that and
(18:46):
the next minute they're sayingthey're making fun of their
human like some little joke.
They love to say they have asense of humor.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I love that that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, in terms of trying to explain to people,
this is such a great opportunitybecause, in terms of trying to
explain to people what I do andhow it can be useful, there
really is a broad range ofthings that animals tell me and
I would just say, first andforemost, it's about their
connection to their human.
(19:18):
That's what they tell me isabout how the human can connect
more with the animal and viceversa, that is absolutely
beautiful and we'll leave in thedescription a way to get a hold
of you.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So, if anybody wants to and I'm going to I'm going to
jump into plants because plantsis something that I've
personally worked with for likethe last six years.
So animals I still don'tremember how to communicate with
them.
Uh, it's a work in progress.
I am hoping in the near future,especially because it has come
around again and again and again.
(20:08):
So I typically find thesesynchronicities as hey, try to
tap into that and see how thatworks for you, but I'm not quite
there yet.
But with plants, I am verycomfortable working with plants,
with the spirit of the plant,speaking to the plants and just
being a student of the plants,basically because they have so
(20:31):
much wisdom, so much knowledge.
I'll share a little bit andthen, if you can share a little
bit about your experience, thatwould be awesome Because, as
weird as we may sound, I'mpretty sure we're not the only
ones.
So, and even if we are the onlyones, welcome After us, many
more will come then.
Okay, and many more willremember that's okay too.
(20:52):
We could be pioneers ofwhatever, but I know many people
that do it as well.
Okay, especially ancestralmedicines, shamans, all this
stuff.
This is their bread and butter.
Like this is what part of whatthey do it's.
It's been there for eons, um,and now um, basically in this
incarnation.
Just kind of re-remembering mywork um with the plants again,
(21:14):
um, for example, um, not onlypsychedelic medicine, um, cause
I don't want to make it justabout psychedelics, because
psychedelics is not somethingthat um is called for, everybody
Um, it's a very personal pathum to take um, but not only
psychedelics, also non-ps, nonpsychedelics.
So on the psychedelic side, likeayahuasca, mushrooms and all
(21:34):
these things, but then on thenon psychedelic side, I like I
worked with Bowie and Sana, Iwork with Lupuna, I'm working
with spirulina now and like justdifferent ones, I usually tend
to work with them for aboutthree months um, and receive all
of this wisdom, all of thisknowledge, um, and and from,
(21:55):
yeah, and from there, kind oflike deepening my soul, work if
it makes sense, like with them,just like being one with the
spirit of the medicine andmeditating and actually meeting
them.
And it's very interestingbecause for my wife, um, the
same plant has showed up in adifferent form, which is also
very beautiful.
And another thing I have foundout is that it may show up a
(22:19):
little bit different the essenceof the plant for you than for
me.
That's one thing I found outand another thing the plant may
represent also a lot of um, likewhat we would consider saints
(22:53):
or energies and stuff like that,and some of those plants are
very much connected to thatenergy to certain certain ones.
So, I, I've come across that aswell Um, and to me, a lot of
these, um, energies, they'rebasically earth keepers in my
opinion.
Um, you know, in in the plantkingdom and to me, we can
(23:18):
communicate with all thekingdoms mineral kingdom, animal
kingdom um all of that.
I have crystals I speak with,so I have.
I could do the crystals.
I could do the plants.
I'm not there with the animalsyet, but what has been your
experience with the plants, orwith plants and crystals?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, when you were speaking about not being there
with the animals yet, I haven'tattempted to have a two-way
conversation with plants.
They are talking to me.
I can walk past one and seewhat it needs and speak to it,
but I haven't ask them themessages that they have for me.
(23:59):
So I surround myself with themwhen I'm out, you know, if I'm
at someone's house, I'mdistracted, like, oh, this plant
, I could get that thing shiningin a minute, you know.
And when you were talking aboutnot being there with animals
yet, just like you just said, Ibelieve that this wisdom hasn't
actually been lost.
(24:20):
It's still here, it's waitingand it's waiting to be asked.
And one of the ways I helppeople who are interested in
learning how to communicate withanimals is by asking them to
have question and answersessions with their animals.
It's conversation in the sameway that you wouldn't want a
(24:42):
spouse or someone in your lifeto just say do this, do this,
and when you do it, go.
Look, you did it.
Oh, let me give you a treat.
I mean, I'm being facetiousright now, but you just want
them to chat with you, you wantthem to listen to you, and
(25:03):
that's how I start with allanimals.
So I do another kind oftraining.
I teach people to meditate withtheir animals to get on the
same wavelength, which isbeautiful too.
But I encourage them havelittle question and answer
sessions.
I'll go around and name thethings.
I know a lot of people do this.
I'll name the things in myhouse and I'll say what do you
think about this?
(25:24):
You know, if I approach one ofmy birds I'll say what do you
think about this?
I'm going to put it in.
What do you think?
Do you want it, Do you not wantit?
And then I'll listen.
So it's just as simple as that.
It's just conversing and you'llstart to hear, and I think a
lot more people than realize itdo hear something.
You know, we all have differentclairs.
(25:45):
We all experience a differentway of hearing or seeing or
tasting or knowing or feeling orscanning.
But whatever that animal iscommunicating to you, it's right
there.
But we often just don't askverbally.
I encourage people to askverbally.
Eventually it may becomenonverbal, but you're still
(26:07):
projecting a question and thenlistening.
And when I do that with theseteeny, tiny finches that I have
that are this big and they'reall personalities, I may as well
have a high school class, alldifferent personalities, each of
these little guys.
And I have some that will justbe doing their birdie thing.
And then when I come up and askthem a question, that look me
(26:29):
right in the eye, like deeply inthe eye, you know, and they're
like are you here to talk to meBecause I got something to tell
you?
And if I were to get nervousand not believe that they had
something to tell me, I mighttry to project what I thought
they needed onto them.
But if I just be still, allcreation, be still and listen,
(26:52):
there's voices all around us.
We don't have to be listeningto the noise of engines and you
know whatever else modernculture is doing.
You can start right in your ownhome having this more magical
experience with all of creation,with your what we call pets.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's so beautiful and I will try to practice and I
will do a session with you andsee how it goes.
So, just so I can kind of startwith the right foot there, I
want to speak about your writing.
I love writing.
I've written two books, so Iwant to touch on that because I
(27:32):
feel that you're someone who haswalked such a beautiful path
and that has so much to sharewith us, and I want you to share
it.
Just share it, just write it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Get it done.
It's a funny thing because Idon't share about my writing,
because it's sort of theopposite of all these beautiful,
sparkly things I'm talkingabout with the animals and the
Holy Spirit and plants and Ihave.
I came back from Hopi with acompletely different perspective
(28:08):
.
I was very uncomfortable inmodern American culture, which
is the reason I sought out myHopi family, hopi spiritual
family in the first place.
I mean, I was crumbling here.
I don't do well in modernAmerican culture, modern culture
kind of in general.
So there's a wisdom that Ibrought back which is not
(28:30):
cultural appropriation.
I never talk about the NativeAmerican way.
You know anything that theytaught me, that's theirs.
But I came back with a morehoned sense of the things that
really set me off about ourmodern culture and I've been
trying to weave that knowledgein a non-confrontational way in
(28:51):
different formats and I've beenwriting for many, many years and
I'm dedicated to part of whyit's so important for me, why
I'm so thrilled to have found mygift, that you know I can
actually support myself by doinganimal shamanism communication.
I can then dedicate myself moreconsistently and I don't know
(29:14):
what form it's going to come outin.
But the reason I don't speakabout it is because people can
argue with my work when it comesout, if they have, if it sets
them off.
It's challenging, provocative ina way.
You know it provokes a feelingfrom people about well, this is
how we do things, you know.
Well, have you thought aboutdoing it this way?
(29:36):
And because there's a part ofme that's very warrior like,
I'll let that come out in mywork and speak for itself.
I really hope to get to findenough support in my daily life
that I can do that, becausethere's a lot of illness within
the culture.
That's not individuals.
(29:58):
Individuals are yummy,wonderful, gifted, but the
culture's so you know, liketamping them down all the time
that I come in with my spear andpoke big holes in it and that,
like this huge whoosh, like astorm, comes out and I don't
want to be standing in the wayof any of that.
(30:18):
You know I pose it and peoplecan.
When I publish it, or online orhowever it comes, people can
get on there and say whateverthey want to say, but I'm going
to be away from the screen.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
All right, so cool.
Let me first of all I want toput you in contact with my
publisher.
You know I love.
You know I love putting myselfand others in uncomfortable
situations.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You've been through my breathwork stuff I like to
push people to the end of thepool and they're like I was so
excited when I found you, likethis girl doesn't waste any time
.
No, yep, no, yeah, where's thetime to waste, right, I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
it's infinite, but we're here, let's just get it
done.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, in this body, at this time, let's get it done.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, so I will put you in contact with Alan.
He is magnificent and I'm sureyou two will hit it off and the
project is going to be done inno time.
That's it, done deal.
Hey, thank you, yep, thank you,thank you, yep, thank you, I
could see it.
I could see it.
It has to go.
Listen my book, especially mysecond book.
It has been so controversial,especially and I'll say one
(31:30):
thing out of the many triggeringthings I said in the book.
I said the second coming ofChrist is coming through each
one of us, through our Christconsciousness.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That alone has set on fire oh.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So and so many other crazystuff I put on the book.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But that's OK.
Oh, I support it so much.
You know, as I learn to speakabout what I'm doing now, I
cannot tell a lie.
I hope so.
You know, people have guidesand spirit guides and animal
spirit guides and we go andjourney and we do this, but I
(32:11):
spend a good portion of everyday listening to that same
answer and ask or question andanswer session with Holy Spirit.
Now, because I was never raisedin a religion and because my
conversion with when Christ cameand took me, it was like, you
know, like never, could forgetit.
I've never changed thatchildlike orientation to Holy
(32:35):
Spirit, even though I readscripture right, I want to know,
I want to learn and have donethis for decades.
And you know, maybe I alreadysaid this in this interview but
when Holy Spirit came originallyinto folks, they all started
speaking in tongues.
And who's to say that animalcommunication isn't another
(33:00):
tongue, you know?
Or talking to plants isn't justa holy tongue and a wisdom
sharing?
And I feel like you know thegarden is speaking, it's calling
out, it needs humans.
Here we are supposed to be thecaretakers of the earth, have
(33:21):
dominion.
But that should mean caretakingand it should mean asking and
then listening to the answer.
It's not that hard.
We really separate ourselves somany separations from wisdom.
That's just right in our hand.
Our little kitty, you know, askit, it will tell you amazing
(33:42):
things.
As you know, plants will tellyou everything.
All that earth knowledge to meis the same thing as spirit.
But talking about beingcontroversial, you know, talking
about using Holy Spirit as myspirit guide, hear the animals
talk.
At first it sounds like that'soutrageous.
(34:04):
You can't say they're whatever.
But isn't that what the garden?
Isn't that a tongue it's like?
So yeah, people will do with itwhat they will.
But one of the reasons I use theholiest of spirits as a
clearing house when animals talkto me is because I want to know
(34:29):
that I'm in the highestvibration of love.
I don't want to mess upanything that they tell me with
my own anything or with myguides.
My guides are all creaturesthat I have known.
I don't personally deal withspirits I don't know, and that's
(34:52):
because there would be so manycoming through my doors and
windows, like when I was apreteen.
I was like no, no, no, no, I'mway too vulnerable for that my
own situation in life.
I have to keep everything clearand I can always trust.
Holy, the holy, holy, holy.
Whatever that is for you, youknow you can't fool it, you
(35:14):
can't trick it and you cannotlie to it and you can't change.
Do you hear how quiet my birdshave gotten all of a sudden?
When I'm talking about this,when I sit in scripture and in
Holy Spirit every morning, thisis what they do.
They go from being goofy person, they just hush.
I wish you could feel it.
(35:36):
You probably can, but I wishyou could feel it.
I'm surrounded by them and myplants and it's just like all of
creation has hushed to hear theLord speak.
It doesn't have to be thisdomination.
The more people who get moveaway from the idea of dominating
animals because they're nervousaround them and they think I
(35:57):
better tell them what to do andif they don't do it then I'm
going to get anxious the morethey move into thank you for
your.
Now they're saying, yes, that'sright, asking and receiving
messages, just however you do,and each person will do it
differently.
(36:17):
Everyone will have their ownway of hearing and receiving and
communicating with the puppiesand the snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I love that.
That sounds beautiful.
Is there anything else you wantto share with our audience,
about yourself, about the workyou do?
Is there anything upcoming?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't know really anything that you want to share,
I do want to let people knowthat I do pro bono work with any
rescue anywhere, anytime whohas a specific animal that
they've tried to home and itkeeps getting returned or has
been.
You know it's a problem child.
They've tried to home and itkeeps getting returned or has
(37:03):
been.
You know it's a problem childand it's the rescues here work
with me when their animal islike kind of hopeless, like I've
done some sessions with theseanimals to ask what they want in
a home, not who will take them,who's willing to deal with
their behaviors, but what is itthat they want?
And they tell me extraordinarythings.
(37:24):
I had an animal name of Grillwho told me he hated his name.
He had these teeth, that he wasone of those grill face dogs
you know tiny little thing withthat face and he said he wanted
a floral name, like a little oldlady, floral name because he
loves flowers.
So he would like a name likePetunia.
(37:44):
He was really hurt by hisrescue name and he wanted to
live with a lady who gardened,you know, kind of a petite.
He wanted to live in a verymeticulous house.
He thought he would do wellwith a middle-aged gay man,
possibly because he would keepthe house very nice, but he
(38:05):
himself.
It needed to be okay if he wasfilthy because he wanted to go
out and run around the dirt, buthe wanted things nice around
him.
Right?
They say the most amazingthings and consequently they're
able to be placed.
That you can look specifically,than a rescue can look
specifically for a householdthat will fulfill what the
animal wants.
Isn't that beautiful?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So I work with any rescue anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
anytime, I work from a photograph and I send the
readings via email.
I can work in person if that'sthere's some reason that needs
to be done, but I work fromphotographs.
And then also I wanted toextend to your listeners
specifically and of course, Iwant to offer you and your pup a
session.
But anyone who's listening tothis podcast, who has an animal
(38:53):
in hospice or going into hospiceor getting close to that, who's
really you know that's startingto happen.
Moving on, it can be verydifficult for humans to put
their emotions aside and hearclearly.
They're so concerned.
We've all been through it.
You know that it's terrible tothink you don't know what your
animal needs.
So I'd like to also offer probono sessions for anyone who has
(39:19):
an animal heading into hospiceand they really don't know what
if they're making their animalcomfortable, and in those
sessions, animals say someincredibly beautiful things that
they want their humans to knowbefore they go.
So that would be my honor towork with anyone in that
(39:41):
situation for free.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Wow, lily, I don't know what to say.
This has been magical.
I am so happy that you decidedto get on here.
Thank you, things learning fromeach other, sharing space,
sharing with other people aboutyour work.
Is there anything that you wantto share with your listeners to
(40:07):
like where they can find you,or do you prefer if I just put
it on the description below, ordo you have?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
You can put it on the on the description.
I just started a new Facebookpage.
I'm a little awkward with allof the technology and this and
that, but I'm hoping that peoplewill share their stories.
Right now there's not much onthere.
I'm going to start posting myown feelings and things on there
(40:33):
, and that is Lily chats withanimals, or no.
Sorry, see, I knew I would messit up If I tried to say it.
You'll get it right in thedescription animals, plural
animals chat with Lily.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Oh, I love that and we will put it in the
description below.
Guys, no worries, you can clickon that.
Thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I just love what you're doing.
I'm so honored that you wouldhave me on and I'm looking
forward to another breathworkshot workshop with you.
I hope it happens soon.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You too,
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