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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi Rhonda, Welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master
Podcast.
Even the little setbacks thatwe've had for connecting, I am
so glad that you're here and I'mvery excited to hear your story
.
So whatever you would like toshare with us is more than
welcome in the space.
I'm sure everybody is waitingto hear about you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, well, thank you , rosalia.
Thank you for inviting me asyour guest.
I'm excited to be here.
And when I saw the name of yourpodcast, quantum Alchemist,
alchemy because I am analchemist, I'm an alchemist, I'm
a coach, I'm a speaker, I'm awriter, but alchemy is what we
(00:41):
obviously have in common.
And actually, I'm originallyfrom the East Coast, connecticut
, and I was in California quitea few years and making my way
back to Connecticut within thenext few months and I'm in a
work project right now inColorado Springs.
Okay, beautiful, so let's startthere.
(01:05):
Alchemist, and so many peoplesay, what, what do you do?
I said, well, I'm an alchemist,a coach, a lifestyle
empowerment alchemist, coach,speaker and writer.
And they look at me like huh, Igo.
Well, alchemy, you know, is theprecursor to chemistry.
Not that I at all have any leftbrain ability.
(01:30):
Okay, I'll take that back.
I may have a little, but I amnot a left brain person.
I never took chemistry.
I opted I think it wasenvironmental science when it
came time to do that, in mentalscience when it came time to do
that.
But we are all alchemists if weknow it, whether we know it or
not, and it's essential to knowthat because I believe that it's
(01:55):
the joys, the good stuff andthe not-so-good stuff that lets
us live the life we desire, thatlets us live an empowered life,
perhaps the life that we dreamabout.
So I grew up on the East Coastand I had a stay-at-home mom,
(02:15):
very traditional family, and adad who preferred mom
stay-at-home.
I'm the oldest of threebrothers and one sister.
I'm the oldest of threebrothers and one sister and till
about through third grade, Iwould say, I lived in what we
call an extended family.
So it was parents, my siblings,grandparents, aunts, great
aunts I think there was an unclethere at one point so 13 people
(02:39):
for a time in the samehousehold, under the same roof.
So lots of love and lots ofdiscipline one way or another,
and, and because I'm the oldestof five, I took on the role of
nurturer and wanting to nurtureothers, and and the household
was primarily female.
(03:01):
So that sense of love andnurturing from primarily, you
know, my mom, my aunts, my greataunts, my grandmother, yes.
So it was all that put togetherthat led me into the field of
being of service to others.
I got interested in psychologyservice to others.
(03:23):
I got interested in psychology.
That's what I did Counselingpsychology, educational
psychology, and went through,got my master's degree, all in
Connecticut, and I did that fora while.
I was a psychotherapist forquite a while and then, in 2005,
I made the switch to AlchemistCoach, understanding that, yeah,
(03:49):
the client should really takeresponsibility for their health
and well-being, for living thelife that they desire.
And again, I have plenty ofcredentials, including the
International CoachingFederation.
However, my best credentials arethat I have come out on the
other side of stuff that wastraumatic stuff.
(04:10):
That was that not so good stuffand I had it serve me rather
than anything less.
And that not so good stuffincluded incarceration in a
women's federal prison camp,breast cancer, several divorces
and financial room.
But I'm still here.
I'm still here becauseobviously, god I call it God,
(04:34):
whatever you call it universe,source, spirit, the divine, had
bigger plans for me and the planwas to let people know that
they are not alone with that notso good stuff that they are
going through and to help themhelp themselves.
So that's a brief introductionto me and you may ask me
(04:55):
whatever you'd like to ask me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's very heavy.
Let's start unpacking that alittle bit.
So first of all, I feel veryempowered just by the tone of
your voice, by your vibration,by your frequency, by your
energy for those that are goingto be looking at this video,
because I can see that you arethe embodiment of what you're
(05:19):
speaking about.
Yes, so it.
You just your energy justautomatically transfers over and
it's very palpable.
You could really really feelthat.
So thank you for your presencein the podcast today.
I'm sure I'm doing tons ofhealing by just having this
conversation right here.
So I am, I am blessed.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You're very welcome Because, as healers, that's how
we heal.
You're very welcome Because, ashealers, that's how we heal.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
We help others help themselves.
Yeah, so I want to start there.
I usually tell people in theprograms that I run, which is
probably similar to somewhat towhat you do, which is a 90 day
(06:04):
transformation where we takeresponsibility, and I would say
it's like radical responsibilityand responsibility.
And I always say it's likeradical responsibility and
responsibility.
I break it into two responseand abilities, or ability to
respond to whatever happens tous, to life, to circumstances,
to whatever source, whateverthat may be for you.
And it is really going withinto find that strength, that
(06:28):
power to co-create that.
But I'm sure in your journey, aswell as probably mine and many
others, it wasn't always likethat.
It was a road to get to thatplace.
So for those starting out andit's fine, we're not judging
(06:48):
anyone, we have walked the path.
That's.
This is why and we still arewe're always evolving and
learning.
But for those that maybe aredealing with a lot of victim,
you know tendencies or behaviorsand patterns and and addictions
and they're just kind of likein that loop.
You know that you feel like youjust can't get out, no matter
what you do, that you're just inthat loop.
(07:09):
What would you say for thosepeople?
Or maybe you want to put anexample from your own journey,
like how were you able to getout of that loop, like even
being in prison let's just takethat into account, because in my
book that's a big problem tohave.
So how were you able to dealwith that mentally, emotionally,
physically, spiritually?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, what I would say to others, in whatever their
circumstance or event, is,whatever they happen to be going
through, number one you are notalone.
You're not.
You're just not alone.
You may feel alone and you mayfeel like the roof is falling in
on you, and in my early forties, that was the last place I
expected to be in a women'sfederal prison camp.
(07:52):
It was a camp.
It was no bars or anything likethat, but still for a while,
that stigma Convict okay on myforehead.
I began, however, there.
It took took about a year beingin this prison camp with 300
(08:14):
women just imagine that andunderstanding, not understanding
that I was there, but I wasthere for a reason.
There are no accidents,coincidences or happenstances,
n-o-no.
I was there for a reason.
It did take about a year for meto stop hitting the phone
(08:35):
against the wall and saying getme out of here, I don't belong
here.
One day in a phone call therewere 15 minute phone calls and
then that switched.
It was less but very difficultto parent in a 15 minute phone
call from prison camp.
However, I did stop hitting thephone against the wall and I
(08:59):
remember it like it wasyesterday.
And there it is.
There's my aha breath, I callit my God breath, it's a
confirming breath.
And I remember is there's myaha breath, I call it my God
breath, it's a confirming breath.
And I remember just sayingaloud oh well, and that began my
journey of surrender.
That began the journey ofsurrender pivoting me right back
to be in service to others,because my purported crime,
(09:25):
which was later my sentence, wasexpunged after six years in
there.
The nonviolent, non-drugrelated, so I was there for a
reason I was actually doingwellness classes for women One
second.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
How long were you there again for Six years.
I just wanted to make sure thatI heard that correct.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, I look at it as six of my birthdays, my
daughters, all of my family, sixof every holiday that there was
.
I didn't like it, but the thingthat helped me you asked me
that early on was that somehow Ifound a gift and I found a
(10:10):
blessing in that situation and Itook it.
I took that gift and I tookthat blessing and I began to
peel the onion skin away, peelit down to who my true, true
self is self with a capital sself, our authentic power from
within, the power to thrive andnot barely survive.
(10:32):
That was the journey I was onand you know, god was trying to
catch my attention long beforewe started with the pebbles,
then a two by four and then the,the brick.
That was a big brick.
That was a major timeout for me, major timeout.
I was extremely humbled and Ineeded it.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Can you tell us about that?
Is it possible?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sure, my quote unquote crime had to do with um,
oh, look at that, I like thelittle baby.
Thank you, you know, dogs feltbackwards as God.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I hadn't even stopped to realize that.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I found myself in a situation that was totally
unbelievable to me and, as Irecall it, I began to recall
certain things when I changedthe brand of my company.
Fix your reflection first andlive your best life ever is my
company, and I am beginning tooffer now a 90 day.
(11:44):
Uh, turn yourself around, likeyou.
Why do your 12 months?
Let's do 12 week segments withrespect to living your best life
ever.
So all during this period, thatwas like the surreal to me.
(12:05):
I never had a traffic ticket,so there was a long range of
events that caused what itcaused, and I find myself in
California being arraigned, andit was only by God's grace that
what happened happened.
(12:26):
I was released with an anklebracelet and then began the
turmoil of my gosh.
This is like for real.
This is very much real, very,very scary as well, and my
(12:48):
daughter was 14 at the time, Ifyou don't mind me asking who who
was taking care of yourchildren while that was
happening.
I have one, my sister and myex-husband at that time, at that
(13:10):
time.
So I find myself in thissituation and, though it was
totally incredible, it was, oneblessing happened after another
for me, and I truly mean that.
I just began to develop thisstrength.
I began to work.
My spiritual muscles wereworking, even before I knew they
were working.
That subconscious mind of mineWell, she was in there, she was
(13:33):
rooting for me and it ended upin a trial back in Connecticut.
That's where my charges arefrom, and back in Connecticut,
that's where my charges are from.
I was living in California atthe time and there were so many
(13:57):
things that we put paperwork infor a dismissal.
Everything fell by the wayside,everything was rejected Because
, I mean, I didn't like it atthat time.
But then I came to know I'msupposed to be here.
I'm supposed to be here to notonly learn about myself but help
others learn about themselvesAgain, pivoted right back into
being of service to others and,lo and behold, I made a life
(14:24):
there.
I mean, I was again.
I was in a camp to begin with,but then I was sent to the
Presidio in San Francisco, fivedays a week, five of us for
gardening, for you know thingsthat you wouldn't expect.
We didn't make license platesor anything like that and it was
(14:45):
like, okay, I really don't likethat.
I'm here, but I am blessed.
I always had a track to run on.
I'm an avid runner, I've been arunner for 49 years.
I had a track.
I started giving wellnessclasses, not only for physically
but emotionally for the womenin there, and I was okay because
(15:10):
I was doing what I was meant tobe doing and I was being of
service to others.
And I would always remark Isaid, wow, I'm in here with all
these women Like they could besisters, a couple or like a
daughter to me, and I was like amom to them, grandmothers,
(15:32):
literally in there.
And I learned as well what Ihad always believed when you
remove the matriarch from thefamily, devastating, devastating
.
Not that men don't matter, okay, but when you remove the
solidarity of the mom from thefamily, that's a path to
(15:53):
destruction for many families.
And the statistic at that timeI there were so many women
incarcerated.
I read a lot, I did a lot ofresearch, that over 66% of
(16:15):
people incarcerated were women.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's a big percentage.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's a big percentage.
That's a big percentage.
That's a big percentage.
And the recidivism rate thosethat return was nearly 70%.
So I wasn't giving interviewsat that time, but I remarked in
things that I had written.
We might as well just put barsaround the United States, I mean
(16:49):
what's going on.
So I got over that.
I wasn't on a soapbox at allbecause of that.
I helped those that wish to behelped.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Can we pause there in that quote for a moment?
Do you mind there for in thatquote for a moment?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
do you mind?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
yes, because the same thing happens to me, uh, with
people, and it took me a while,even with my family, to come to
that understanding.
Um, you know, there's a lot ofwhat our soul chose, um, for us
to experience as well, um, andit takes some time or or it did
for me to understand that we'reall walking our path.
We all have different timing,we all have a different way of
(17:32):
viewing the universe, the world,whatever it is our own lens of
perception of life, and I havetaken kind of like a step back
and just allowed for theuniverse to bring to me those
that want the help and not beupfront, like oh hey, you know,
(17:54):
here are these tools or thisresources, or maybe read this
book, or like, you know, becauseyou just can't help but to want
to share with everyone.
Right, so it takes a little bitto learn how to navigate those
waters, but what you just saidis so powerful because it can
only be.
You can't force a horse, right?
(18:17):
What's that saying?
To drink water?
Drink the water, yeah yeah, sothat's very, very powerful,
powerful.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And the other thing, too, is because I am a nurturer,
I think most women are okay umagain, not that men aren't.
But I had to learn that is notmy right nor my obligation to
want for someone whether it's afamily member or a client or an
audience want for them what theydo not want for themselves.
(18:51):
Not my right nor my obligation.
Shame on me.
I told you I was humble and Istick by that.
So this program now that willbe, it'll be open, you know, in
(19:11):
a matter of a week, but it's notfor the faint of heart.
I think you know what I mean.
I mean, we're going to do somework and I literally help you,
help yourself, because you havethat power.
We all do our innate power, theauthentic power from within.
I caught my godly self, notmerely my earthling self, and we
(19:33):
all have it, and that's why I'mdedicated to awakening hearts,
minds and, most especially,spirit to the power from within.
So I don't mince words.
Okay, I'm very kind, I'm veryloving, I'm very compassionate.
I love dogs and I but I don't.
(19:55):
The escapades in my life I callthem escapades sometimes that
not so good stuff have given methe right to say to someone Hmm,
you, what is it that you'recomplaining about?
I mean, I could be a lot morevocal and you can cut it out if
you want.
But sometimes I will even say Inot sitting here, so, you, I
(20:18):
can take the hair across yourass, that's it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You can say whatever you want.
We say curse words on whateverin the show.
It doesn't matter, that's itgotta hear whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We say curse words on whatever in the show, it
doesn't matter.
This is my, this is.
The east coast is coming out nowand the authentic power from
within is coming out.
So I can't deal with that, withpeople that because they have a
hair across their ass, they'refalling apart.
Okay, it's okay, if you fallapart, that's fine, but you have
to understand that you must dothe work I have.
(20:48):
As a psychotherapist, I havethis toolbox.
As an alchemist, I have thistoolbox.
I got plenty of tools, but ifyou don't use them, it's like
people that buy self-helpcourses and they never use them.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh my God, can we pause for that phone in there
for a?
Second I have had hundreds ofpeople come across my program
and I could see if they're doingit or not, Like I can see their
progress.
It's a you know, I don't wantto say don't BS me, but like I
can literally see how manymodules you did, what percentage
(21:22):
you completed 10% of peoplecompleted.
Yeah 10% of people completed.
The amount of value ofinformation I'm sure you have in
those programs are worthinfinite.
I mean, there's no amount youwould be able to charge, over a
million dollars for the onecourse that you're having on
(21:46):
there, except you don't.
You choose to make it availableto most and you choose to give
it.
But again, we come back to areyou ready?
If you've, if you've hit abrick wall, if you're at least
in my journey, where I was, andI'm sure some of the stuff that
you've mentioned, you're goingto do it because, because you
need to, because there's noother way, you're not going to
(22:09):
give yourself another option.
You only have option A.
So, yeah, yeah, thank you forpointing that out.
Sorry, go ahead.
I just I.
It's a pet peeve of mine thatpeople have the resources and
they don't use it.
Um, and it's a shame.
It's a shame because your lifecan transform so much quicker,
so fast.
(22:29):
I mean your soul literally justchose to come down reincarnate,
go through hell.
Okay, on earth to show others.
It's freaking possible, nomatter your situation.
You're sharing it, you have aprogram, you're giving all the
tools, and yet we can't be quietenough to listen or to follow
(22:52):
directions or to follow thebreadcrumbs.
Back home, back to our soul,back to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And to understand that if people are going through
whatever you happen to be goingthrough, whatever tunnel you
happen to be journeying down,that light is not a train coming
at you.
That light is the guidance,it's the blueprint, it's the
wherewithal to utilize yourauthentic power from within and
(23:22):
move forward in your life tolive your best life ever.
And that's what?
What an alchemist.
What's an alchemist?
Well, this is what did I do?
I?
Basically, I take the joys aswell as the shit in people's
lives because I've done it withmy own and help them live their
(23:42):
best life ever, whatever thatmay happen to be.
And that their best life ever,whatever that may happen to be,
and that changes Best life everis not simply financial
Abundance is not simplyfinancial.
That's the least of it.
So here's, you know I'm goingto show you and don't tell me
that I don't know what I'mtalking about.
Okay, let's just part asfriends, because we're not for
(24:06):
each other.
This isn't a mate, this isn't amarriage, this isn't any mating
going on here, because I'm oneperson, you're one person, those
of us that are healers, we'reonly one person.
We can't do it for someone else.
I can change me.
Watch how everything changesaround with my family and with
(24:32):
colleagues, with people thatI've shed because of the
experience that I've gonethrough, experiences.
So it's really important tounderstand, to know you're not
alone and to take responsibility, whatever that may happen to
mean, and to trust yourintuition.
You know, the God of myunderstanding is right here.
Our emotions there's twoemotions fear and love.
(24:55):
No more emotions, only fear andonly love.
That's it.
So if you're living in fear,you're going to create certain
thoughts which will create yourexternal world.
If you're living in love,you're going to create other
thoughts which will create yourexternal world.
And it sounds so simple.
It's simple, but it's not easy.
(25:17):
That's why none of this life isnot for the faint of heart, and
life I'm tight.
Oh, you know what happened inmy life?
Life is not for the faint ofheart.
In life I'm tight.
Oh, you know what happened tomy life that caused me to be
this victim?
And I've been a victim for thelast 20, 30, 40 years.
What do you mean?
Well, what happened?
You got divorced, I got threeunder my belt and now they all
(25:42):
want me back.
That was my cycle of breakingpatterns that do not serve me.
That's why it was important.
Fix my reflection first.
You know I'm not telling youanything new.
Mirror work has been around forages.
I look in the mirror everymorning.
How are you today?
You look great.
I love you, rhonda.
I like you, rhonda, and I gothrough the scenario of whatever
(26:06):
I'm going to say and you knowwhatever I'm manifesting on any
given day, and I feel like awinner.
There was a lot.
While I would look in themirror, I felt very downtrodden
with everything happening to me.
Now.
I felt very downtrodden Waseverything happening to me now?
And I went back to when I, whenI was charged with what I was
(26:30):
charged with, my first attorneywanted me to plead guilty.
I'm going to get you a deal.
Well, I don't know what thatmeans.
What do you mean?
Well, I want you to do this.
I said, basically, you want meto throw people under the bus?
I no, you know why?
Because I got to look in mymirror.
I didn't even realize what Iwas saying at that point.
(26:51):
I got to look in my mirrorevery morning and look at me.
So I'm not going to do that toothers.
And then it went on and went onand went.
But I learned a lot.
I learned a lot about myself.
There was not one day, as wellas in my other escapades, that I
did not laugh or cry, andlaughter and tears are a sign of
(27:16):
growth.
If you're not laughing, ifyou're not crying, then you're
not growing, and you might wantto think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Thank you so much for pointing that out.
Honestly, I can't even imaginewhat you went through, but your
journey is so impactful I reallyhope the listeners can it
(27:46):
really allows them to to use youas a mirror to reflect back
into their life and theircircumstance and say, okay, if
she literally you know got herLotus out of the mud out of
whatever situation, so can I, socan I of the mud out of
(28:08):
whatever situation.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So can I, so can I, I'm not even anywhere near close
to her situation.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, and and having your guidance is so important
and so valuable, especially yougoing through all of these
things.
Um, I don't know whatpercentage of people get
divorced, but it's very high.
Um, um, and and you've beenthrough three of those so far,
and I'm sure let me tell yousomething, at this stage in your
(28:31):
life, I'm sure you can speak topeople about anything addiction
, whatever I mean, you name itrelationships, self-worth,
whatever it may be.
You're like, I'm sure you'relike a 360.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Bring it.
Come on, what do you want totell me?
Yeah, what is it?
Heard it all.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I probably lived most of it, so please, yeah, so if
somebody was listening to thisand wanted to get into your.
Is it a 90 day program?
I don't want to confuse it withmy 90 day.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I call it 12 weeks, okay.
So first and live your bestlife ever, and it's two hours.
Once it's done.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Tell us more about it .
Is it like a group session?
Is it a one-to-one?
Is it prerecorded modules, Likewhat?
What can we expect from theprogram?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, it's 12 weeks of me in the group.
I'm taking 15 to begin with, 15women.
12 weeks, two hours per week,and in addition to that there
are discounts on my individualcoaching.
There's some free coaching inthere as well, but you must do
(29:46):
the work and you will learn.
You're going to learn how to gowithin and identify and
extricate that power that youhave, cause I guarantee you
don't even know you have it.
You know there's somethingthere because you're saying,
yeah, enough is enough.
Okay, I'm, I think I'm ready.
I'm not sure, but I think I'mready.
You, that means you, you'regonna once you get out of your
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comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's where life begins.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Come on, I've been out of my comfort zone and the
interesting part of of all ofthat is I've always believed
that a circumstance that we go,circumstances that we go through
, prepare us for the next.
So here I am in Women's FederalPrison Camp, minding my own
(30:33):
business role model to others,and I know I have a lump on my
breast.
I know I have a lump on mybreast, but I also know that I'm
not going to get the righttreatment.
And I'm also in disbeliefBecause I'm a runner, I'm an
(30:55):
athlete, I never took any streetdrugs in my life, never smoked,
and it's like, okay, what'snext?
But I kept everything at bay alot of prayer, a lot of
meditation, a lot of reading,because I said, well, all I need
to do is get home and take careof this.
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And I was good with that.
I was good with it.
I was still scared.
There's a difference betweenfear and being scared.
I was good with it.
I was still scared.
There's a difference betweenfear and being scared.
I was scared.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Can you tell us more about that difference?
Do you mind no?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
not at all.
Fearful means.
If you're fearful, then you'rereally not accepting that
scaredness and I don't believein that.
I don't believe in shoving theemotions down, because you know
what they're going to erupt atthe most inopportune time.
It's like the toiletoverflowing when you have a
(31:53):
house full of guests, literally.
So don't shove the emotions.
Feel the emotions.
Hey, I know sadness, I knowanger.
I know anger, I know resentment, I know non-forgiveness, until
I got smart about living anempowered life and was grateful
for those situations that I wasin, as well as forgave who I
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have to forgive, includingmyself.
So the difference between beingscared and being in fear Fear
is like you're immobilized,never mind about making a
decision to get out of yourcomfort zone and live your best
life ever.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, that freeze responds, that sympathetic
nervous system, that fight orflight yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
So feel your emotions , but understand you don't need
to react by just being in fear.
You can respond aha, breath,that's that god confirming
breath again, and and that's aconfirming breath for me and I
don't mind sharing that at allwith anybody sure go ahead.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Do you mind give it, walking us through it or, if you
want well it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
a lot of people have asked me.
Many have asked me what?
How did you know like yousurrendered?
I said, well, I didn't.
I said my subconscious mindknew.
But I really didn't know.
But I did know that I wasfeeling better about myself, I
was feeling freer out myself.
(33:28):
I was, I was feeling freer.
I always, I always say I had tobe imprisoned, incarcerated in
order to be liberated.
Very freeing, very freeing.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's so powerful.
You know, I, I I'm sorry tointerrupt you there, but, um, I
am in contact with Alan that hewas incarcerated as well in New
York and he brought meditationinto a lot of the prison systems
in New York and now I'm tryingto get together with him to see
(33:59):
how I can bring breath work andmeditation, but at a larger
scale, and get it into, you know, just kind of like statewide or
something, and just make itmore readily available, maybe
having a free online program forpeople that are in a 12 step
program or in prison that theycan access and learn how to do
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this, or with a guided, you know, just like baby steps, right,
so they can kind of come intothis and start reprogramming
their subconscious mind so thatthen they can really start
making those changes.
Just maybe hear some insightsor tips about your experience
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and maybe how we can somehowmake this work.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's just a vision, it's nothing else.
That's what is my dear, that'swhere it begins.
But I will go on about that,about you know just when?
Okay, 11 months before release,I've got a lump on my breast,
okay.
Then my release was delayed,okay.
But another.
All things I've forgiven.
(35:11):
And I remember the day that Iwent to a halfway house for a
short period of time and theyfound out I had a lump on my
breast because I told them andthey couldn't wait to get rid of
me.
And they found out I had a lumpon my breast because I told
them and they could wait to getrid of me.
So I went to my own doctors inCalifornia and scared still
(35:32):
scared, but not in fear, notimmobilized, and, of course, was
diagnosed with breast cancerand Breast Cancer Awareness
Month, of course, october and of2005.
And everyone said, well, howdid you?
What was the biopsy?
(35:52):
And I would say, well, it's notthe worst news, but it's not
the best.
And it's not the best, but it'snot the worst news.
And I got through it.
And we're going to talk moreabout the power from within.
So I again, I've never taken anystreet drugs.
(36:14):
I don't like surgery, I don'tlike going to the doctor.
I don't like any of that stuff.
So I went and saw a medicalQigong person I had seen my
oncologist.
I had seen turned out to be thebreast.
They call him the best breastguy.
I was in Monterey at the timeCalifornia Best breast guy in
(36:36):
the United States, if not theworld.
So I got him okay, this can bechemically treated.
And I said, huh.
And I told him you know, eventhough I've never taken any
street drugs in my life, I meanaspirin was a big thing for me.
I said you know, I think I likethat we can treat this
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chemically.
Then I thought, hmm, I reallywant to do that.
All these bouts of you know,with chemotherapy and then this
and that again, that's the.
That was my biggest fear.
It wasn't the cancer, it was mybiggest fear.
I started with the medicalQigong and I three weeks later.
(37:23):
So I delayed.
They wanted to start chemo.
I delayed and something justsaid delay, do your medical
qigong.
I went back to my oncologistand she said to me my daughter
was standing there.
She said I don't know whatyou're doing, but you're
shrinking your tumor.
My daughter's head spun aroundon her neck and she said you're
(37:46):
buying this shit too.
The medical could go onprofessional.
He said go to back to youroncologist.
The diagnostics of Westernmedicine are the best that there
are.
So I knew I had that fear ofgoing through chemo and whatever
else was going to happen.
(38:06):
And I just at that time saidwell, I know I'm doing this, but
I also know I have this fearand the way to overcome this
fear is to go through Westernmedicine as well as Eastern
medicine, which is what I did.
Now I told you I'm a runner,okay, and I was running a lot
faster in those days and I wasactually running and fast
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walking while I was goingthrough chemo.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Can I ask you something personal?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yes, did you ever doubt of just going more the
Eastern way and not choosing toD?
Was that something that crossedyour head, like doing any
alternative medicines, energywork, plant medicine, like
whatever?
But but that was not somethingyou you considered.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Let me tell you why I didn't do it solely.
My family was having a nervousbreakdown at this whole thing.
I just been released fromprison and now this so I didn't
I and I said this is going to, Igonna, I'm gonna, overcome this
fear, which I did, and I wentthrough five months of chemo, uh
(39:33):
, but I didn't have.
I had think I think had oneside effect.
That was it, and I was walkingand jogging and you know, doing
other things.
Yes, I my hair, but peoplewould look at me and say you
look like a prophet with no hair.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I said I'll take that as a compliment 100%.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
And then the day came where, okay, they got to do
this thing they call the cleanout the margins.
So I have a little war scarhere, but that's okay.
And I get to the I wasoutpatient get to the surgical
center.
My daughter took me and I'm onthe gurney and I'm looking.
(40:23):
It's a beautiful day.
I'm on the gurney and it's abeautiful day.
I'm looking at the sunshine andI'm talking and the OR nurse,
who's going to be my OR nurse.
She comes and says are youcalling me?
Do you need something?
And I said no, I was justhaving a little talk with God
and she knew.
She knew exactly what I wastalking about.
(40:44):
This is how much she knew.
This is my gift and blessing.
Again, a confirmation You'regoing to be all right, rhonda.
She says, oh, your hair isgrowing back.
This is like fuzz.
And she pulls back her skullcap and she says maybe it'll
grow back as curly as mine did.
I like that.
(41:07):
Somebody that went through whatI went through and she was now
helping others, being of serviceto others.
That was my message.
That was like you're going tobe okay because you got to be
here.
Another blessing I go throughall that and I come home and
(41:33):
again, you know I'm weak, butI'm strong in here.
The weaknesses that I enduredif they were weaknesses made me
even stronger, made thatauthentic power even work more
Like working the muscles, mademe better for everything that
(41:54):
was going on.
So got through that, got through40 blasts of radiation, and
that was, I'll tell you, what.
That was tougher than being inprison.
(42:14):
Then the devastating effects ofI was divorced early on from my
daughter's father, but then oneright after another, two
marriages lasted maybe a yearfirst and then two, two and a
half second.
That was completely devastatingbecause that was like, oh,
(42:38):
betrayal, and like what did Iever do?
But long story short, I couldnever have carried on the work
that I am doing Ever With peoplethat weren't supportive of me
(42:59):
or that were threatened,intimidated by me, and I was not
nearly this vocal and thisenergized, not nearly so.
When I look in the mirror nowand I didn't before I see the
love of my life.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Can we pause there for a second?
That is so important.
Can we pause there for a second?
(43:49):
That is so important because alot of times we're looking for
the one outside of ourselves forso long, or for that other half
, god within yourself,consciousness, you as the
observer of your life, as thewitness of all the I near death
is.
We're just one, right, we'rejust one, and love is the answer
(44:11):
.
That's what I always say Justone loving frequency running
through everything and everyone,and just being able to find
freedom, regardless of yourcircumstances.
That I'm terrible atremembering the sayings, I'm
sorry about that.
Like, like flourish whereveryou're planted, or something
(44:32):
similar, I don't know, throwwherever you're planted.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Thanks, you're correct, all my sayings oh, I've
lived that, I've lived it yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You've lived it.
Yeah, it's lifted and you're atestament to that, and just
being able to have you here andbeing and having this testimony
for eternity, because whateveryou put out will always be there
.
You know, whether it's throughpodcast, books, whatever,
(45:06):
whichever way we have ofcommunicating with one another,
is those breadcrumbs, um, for usto to to remember to follow
again, um, so that we can,basically, I used to say, go
make our way back home, butwe're always home.
We just can't recall that, um,it took a long time for me to
understand that I wasn't goinganywhere.
I'm already exactly where Ineed to be in the now moment,
(45:30):
every single time.
But falling in love withyourself is one of the most
beautiful journeys we're evergoing to go on and you, bringing
light to that, don't know that.
Just hit home that yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
You know, whatever I was trying to avoid, I attracted
.
No, no fault of their own, wasmine, was mine, it's my doing.
We call everything forward.
I called forward, for whateverreason, the wrong choices, poor
choices, whether it was prison,whether it was cancer, whether
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it was failed relationships andfinancial ruin.
Called it all forward so Icould learn the lessons.
I don't bounce back, I bounceforward.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Love that.
You guys can't feel it, but asI look at her, I am just, I am
telling you I am, I feel herenergy and I am healing through
this conversation because it isat such a deep level that I hope
(46:49):
you guys can grasp the depth ofevery word that has been shared
here, because if you reallylook at it, from the micro to
the macro, everything has beentouched in this conversation.
It all depends on what lensesyou're seeing it with.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And I'm thankful for all situations.
I really am.
You know the blessing in failedmarriages as well.
I certainly know what I don'twant and I'm going to be brave
and courageous enough tocontinue my path.
This is my journey.
Now, I'm not saying I'm notopen to love, but it's going to
(47:32):
be different.
It's got to be different orelse I can't.
I'll lose myself again.
Through all these escapades, Icall them my three midlife
crises, okay, the through allthose.
These times, the biggestdevastation for me was that I
lost my sense of self with acapital S lost.
(47:52):
Can I ask you what around?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
what ages these?
These things happen of selfwith a capital S Lost.
Can I ask you around what agesthese things happen?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Early 40s for the prison Right at 2005,.
Diagnosed with breast cancerSince 2006,.
March 2006, the end of themonth, cancer free.
Okay, march 2006, the end ofthe month, cancer-free.
And you know it's like okay,after radiation and you finished
(48:25):
all your treatments, you get todo this thing.
You ring a bell and everyoneknows that's being treated, that
okay, she rang the bell, that'sgoing to be me someday.
I'm going to be okay, right,and I don't again.
I bounce forward.
You probably know what I'mfeeling.
(48:54):
It's that it's inexplicable,but I'm even smiling.
Okay Again.
These are signs of growth and Ialso learned.
One big thing I learned wasthat I stopped worrying about
what everyone thinks about me.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
That's a heavy one.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
If you're not worried about what you think about
yourself, that's a problem.
Look in that mirror.
Can you look in the mirror?
Can you say you're great, youare wonderful.
I believe the most selflessthing a woman can do is be
selfish.
Is self-care, self-love is beselfish.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
is self-care, self-love, self-esteem,
self-appreciation, self-respectBecause we won't get it if we do
not put it out there?
Yeah, it's cultivating yourgarden, your own garden.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yes, that's how come you grow where you're planted.
I have to.
I have a picture I've given hasbeen given so many signs in my
journey.
So I'm here in Colorado Springsand I'm, you know, jogging now
and I turned 66 last, last month, and I'm thankful that I'm
jogging.
Okay, thank you.
And I see, you know, it getscold here, not like in
(50:15):
Connecticut, and there's not asmuch snow here, but in the
winter I saw this the end offall, beginning of winter, I saw
this marigold, a littlemarigold plant, probably from a
seed.
The seed had gone into betweenthe curb and the sidewalk and it
was.
(50:35):
I took a picture of it and Isent it to a few people and one
of us, one of my sister-in-laws,and she says this is the way I
feel all the time I said this isyour opportunity to grow where
you're planted 100 and, and I aman avid gardener as well, so I
(50:55):
know the beauty of pruning.
Okay, I know the beauty ofpruning.
It must be done in order tohave a good harvest.
It must be.
Whatever it is I'm sowing, Itake responsibility for it, just
as I did in the past, and Imove forward, I bounce forward,
(51:19):
and that's the lesson to others.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, it's so beautiful and so powerful,
everything that you have shared.
I think I haven't heard aboutyour financial ruin yet.
We haven't touched on that yet,because it's just like one
thing after the other.
So it's like I've remedied.
Oh, I've remedied that.
It's a lot Like how did thatintertwine with this whole
(51:50):
journey?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Was it before, after, like how does During the whole
process, you got to spend moneyfor attorneys.
After, like, how does Bring thewhole process?
You got to spend money forattorneys.
Okay, the whole process, thewhole process.
Medical.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Medical true.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Saying to the last two divorces take it, I'm out of
here.
You want a divorce?
Fine, take it.
I'm not going through this.
It's divorce, fine, take it,I'm not going through this.
It's too much toxicity.
Take what you want, it allcomes back one way or another.
It may not come from where youthink it's going to come from,
but, whatever it is, it's love.
I scold clients now I say well,what kind of partner do you
(52:34):
want?
What kind of spouse?
Oh, one that doesn't treat meas bad as this one.
I go, huh, I go, I can't helpyou.
I can't help you because that'snot the way to help yourself
Living that way, speaking thatway, thinking that way Not going
to happen that way, thinkingthat way, not going to happen.
(52:56):
So and again, if you want joy,be joyful.
Find something to be joyfulabout.
You woke up, you put your feeton the floor, you have
toothpaste, you have coffee.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Sorry, that's my baby .
He'll be on the background forfrequency, upgrading frequencies
as people listen to us.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
He'll come down in just a bit.
Sorry, carry on.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
So again, you helping yourself.
You must not be a faint ofheart.
You must understand.
Okay, all this stuff happenedto me.
I didn't like it, but now I getto do something about it.
And if you can't look in themirror and say, no, enough is
(53:54):
enough, I need to do somethingfor me.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
And we pause there enough is enough.
I just want to really you guysto listen to that, because I
have come.
The changes I've been able tomake have been because I got to
that point that low low point ofenough is enough.
I got to that point that lowlow point of enough is enough.
(54:19):
When you get to that point,that's when we're ready to open
our hearts, when we're ready tochange, when we're more flexible
, when we're open to a differentopportunity.
Sometimes we have theopportunity and we just can't
see it.
We just maybe your gaze is downand you haven't looked up or
looked side to side to see whatelse is available for us to
(54:42):
choose from.
Enough is enough.
I want you guys to rememberthat sometimes I just repeat
stuff again and again so that itcan make incantations in the
neural pathways and it canreally stay in the subconscious
mind, hopefully, and get us tothink and question everything.
(55:05):
I think that's one of the mostimportant things to get us to
question everything our choices,the programming, our actions,
our habits.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, our choices, the programming, our actions,
our habits and what we areliving and what we are holding
in our hearts our minds too, butespecially our hearts is what
we are bringing to us, what weare calling forward.
It's no accidents, coincidenceor happenstance that you and I
met.
There's no, it's not, doesn't.
(55:42):
And then I didn't even knowthat your podcast was called
Quantum Alchemy and I said, oh,alchemy?
Okay.
Who said God doesn't have senseof humor?
Okay.
I was interviewed by two otherpeople.
One said alchemy, that's,there's a boutique down the
street for the alchemy.
And these are little signs,these are nuances that you're in
(56:08):
the right place in the righttime and take it from there.
That's it.
But that's being open, that'sbeing more than open-minded,
that's it, amen.
But that's being open, that'sbeing more than open-minded,
it's being open-hearted.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, so the connection between our minds and
our hearts, our right brain andour left brain, our hemi-sync,
is so important.
And look, I'm still dressed inscrubs.
I supervise six medical offices.
I'm a nurse practitioner, um,and for a very long time, I was
(56:45):
operating in my logical leftbrain, which is okay because it
helps us a lot throughout ourday-to-day operation.
That's beautiful and I'mgrateful to have to be able to
do that.
However, because, just like,like, like faith and like
spirituality, and that thespirit side of us, that that
muscle, like you mentioned itI've never heard it referring to
(57:08):
as a muscle, so I love thatit's sometimes the right side,
the creative side, that allowsus to connect our hearts, our
intuition, and bring forth thiskind of information guidance, um
is left untouched.
You know it's, it's uh, inschools, when they have to cut
(57:28):
budget, art is one of the firstthings to go.
Um, you know, people are tryingto survive.
You think they're going to payfor for our classes or for any
type of creativity for theirkids?
No, they want to put foot onthe table.
So a lot of this things is isput on on the backend and we
don't.
We're on survival.
We, we never allow ourselves tobe that creative co-creators
(57:50):
that we are.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Because we are, are because we are, and that is our
responsibility.
That that is our gift and ourblessing, so use it.
We've been given skills,talents and abilities.
Now give back with those, butfirst give to yourself.
Practice that self-love andself-care.
(58:14):
And how do you live anempowered life?
I am an alchemist, so I do havea formula.
The formula is gratitude plusforgiveness equals living the
life you desire.
Living the life you want tolive, perhaps the life that you
dream about.
Gratitude plus forgiveness.
Be grateful for yourself first,first and foremost, and
(58:36):
whatever you've been throughyou've just heard my escapades
and be grateful enough toforgive yourself for possibly
poor choices.
If they were poor choices, theythey're not mistakes.
There are no mistakes, and wefall so we can get up.
(58:56):
That's why we fall, so that wecan get up, because we have that
power 100%.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
So I want to pause and make that and just reinstate
that.
And just reinstate that,because a lot of my life changed
when I started meaningfully andreally waking up with gratitude
, which I the beginning I wasn't.
I just couldn't, um, because Iwas going through a very bad
(59:27):
depression.
Um, but you know what, even ifyou, if you're not in the best
place, if your circumstances isnot the best, try just speaking
to yourself differently.
Just start.
Maybe it's one word, onesentence, or maybe it's a mantra
that can play as a pattern.
Interrupt for negative thoughts, because it's okay to feel the
(59:51):
emotion.
Bring awareness to that.
I don't want you to repressthat.
It's so important becausethat's one of the ways that we
release and transform andtranscend trauma through the
body.
But you know, how long are yougoing to be playing out in a
victim mindset, holdingresentment for 10, 15 years,
like that's going to eat yourlife?
You're drinking your own poison, right?
So you want to kind of reallyplay your cards like, do I want
(01:00:15):
to be miserable all day, or likeI'm going to be sad and cry for
an hour and then, okay, let'sget back on track here.
Um, so, whether it's mantras orum affirmations, or I like right
now, my, my current morningroutine is I wake up, um, I'm
working with micro doses ofplant medicine, so I always do
(01:00:36):
like my own routine in regardsto that breath, work and just
prayer.
And then the first thing I putin my ear is a gratitude like
audio.
You know, I'm grateful for thismorning, for this breath, and
it gives you like a lot of likelittle micro things that you
don't think about being gratefulfor, like anything your breath
(01:00:58):
in the morning, the eyesight,like just even the tiniest
things that you wouldn't thinkto be grateful for.
And now, even if I don't putthe audio on, I wake up and I
say it in my mind Okay, I'mgrateful for this and this and
that, and it's automatic In mymind.
Okay, I'm grateful for this andthis and that, and it's
(01:01:19):
automatic.
So just try to find ways of.
And the moment I switched ofbeing grateful and surrendering,
my life started changing.
It happened just like that,like I shifted internally and
things outside started shifting.
So I think, gratitude andforgiveness, I'm 100% with that,
(01:01:41):
100%.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Gratitude is okay Everybody knows about that,
whether they practice it like wedo.
But forgiveness is not apopular subject.
It's not a popular topic.
But you said it before.
If you're are non-forgiving,you're ingesting poison and
(01:02:02):
expecting the other person todie.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen andyou know, non-forgiveness is the
biggest incidence.
Non-forgiveness is the biggestincidence.
You're in the medical field.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Biggest incidence of ill being dis-ease, my God.
Yes, to me, every dis-ease isrooted in an emotional state,
whether it was trauma that youwere not able to.
And also, to me, dis-ease even,whether it's mental, emotional,
physical, whatever.
Whatever it is your immunesystem, whatever it is, to me
(01:02:41):
it's just a coping mechanism.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
That is all.
It is A coping mechanism,whether it was to trauma you
were not able to process orexpress as a child, or needs or
wants that weren't met at thattime.
Maybe the master hierarchy ofneed was, you know, not stable
and you didn't have thenecessary needs at that time.
(01:03:06):
So to me, all of it is a copingmechanism to your environment
and to the stuff that happens tous in our life.
So we all do the best we canand we build these responses
whether it's bipolarschizophrenia, whatever, you're
just trying to cope with yourenvironment and the things that
are happening to you and you'rebuilding from there these
(01:03:29):
responses to be able to survivein the world.
So, but the roots are leftuntouched.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yes, you're band-aiding.
When you're doing that, it's aband-aid.
It's not attending whensomething is happening to you.
And I invite our listeners,when something is happening to
you, take a deep breath, do yourown breath work, take a deep
breath and say, okay, I, this iswhat I say.
(01:04:04):
I say how is this attending tothe agenda of my soul?
How?
And I can answer it.
I can do that, I can answer itand I am.
That got to me, got me frombeing a people pleaser, because
I was People pleaser, wanted todo everything the way everybody
(01:04:29):
in my family, in my circle ofinfluence, wanted me to do it.
No, I don't do that anymore.
Please me.
That doesn't mean I havedisregard for others.
I have enough regard for myselfIf I can treat myself that way.
(01:04:49):
You know, if you're in mysphere of influence and I'm in
your sphere of influence, you'regoing to be treated really well
by me Because I know how to doit.
I'm practicing every day onmyself.
So how does it attend to theagenda of one's soul?
Whatever you're going through,sometimes hard to answer, it's
(01:05:13):
not at all.
Well, what is my soul?
Do I have a soul?
Of course you have a soul.
That's the biggest part of you,your soul, is your heart space.
Imagine yourself without aheart.
You would not be alive if theheart wasn't beating.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
So let's be nice to our soul, the biggest of us.
I want to.
I want a parenthesis on there,if it's okay with you.
Sure, I feel like there's somuch disconnection from our soul
and from source withinourselves yes um, I think it
doesn't matter where in themultiverse, we're experiencing
(01:06:01):
life in the now moment, as oursoul, just like source itself,
it's fractaled into multitude ofexperiences on its own, and
this avatar being one of them,and all the distractions outside
(01:06:21):
of us, all the environment.
It is our responsibilitywhether it doesn't matter what
the agenda is, because I don'twant to go, I don't like going
into um, like theories and stufflike that um, but I still do
recognize there is a lot ofprogramming and agenda and
things that may not be servingus at this point, but ultimately
(01:06:45):
I do nothing with blaming themfor that which is also part of
us, just with a different levelof consciousness.
It's still not quite operatingfrom love.
What are?
What can we do about it?
What is the solution orientedthing that we can do here?
And it's really work ourselves,change ourselves, be the change
(01:07:09):
that we want to see in theworld.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That's it Again.
It's simple, it's basic.
It's not easy because we'vebeen practicing these bad habits
of not doing that and notattending to that agenda.
You know, I want to mentionsomething very important,
especially to us women.
I mean breast cancer is thereis incidence of breast cancer in
men as well.
(01:07:32):
However, incidence this was myhat really turned in 2005 to
become the alchemist and to dealwith the emotional and the
cognitive end of disease.
Because, being diagnosed withbreast cancer, I looked a little
closely into it After all, Iwas a psychotherapist.
I had that hat on at one point.
(01:07:52):
But, emotionally, the incidenceof breast cancer in women is
due to the fact that we cannotnourish and nurture ourselves.
We're good at it for everyoneelse.
That's people pleasing.
We go okay, we're good peoplepleasers.
We nourish and nurture others,nourish and nourish others.
(01:08:13):
What about us as women?
Again, you remove the matriarchfrom the family.
So a couple of those two thingsWomen aren't nourishing and
nurturing themselves.
They're people pleasing andthey become estranged in one way
or another.
(01:08:34):
You don't have many people arein different kinds of prisons
and you're removed.
Family is, for me, family isnot just blood, and I got a big
family.
Family is who do I sit down atthe table with?
That's family as well, and Ilove to cook, so you can imagine
(01:08:58):
that I like to sit down withothers.
So think about that.
As women, are you nourishingand nurturing yourself?
Do you please yourself at all?
It's like maybe that's whyyou're getting up in a grumpy
mood every morning.
You know, maybe that's whyyou're not Forgive yourself.
(01:09:21):
Forgive yourself for that.
I haven't been attending to theagenda of my soul.
It's time for me to start, andthis is how I'm going to start
Be gentle, be kind to yourself.
How do I fix my reflectionfirst, start with being gentle
and being kind to yourself.
How do I fix my reflectionfirst?
Start with being gentle andbeing kind to yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
You can be gentle and kind to others you know, I want
to share with you, if it's okay, uh, a map of consciousness
that came through, um for me,from my guides, um, because the
very last bit of of that isself-reflection.
So I think it goes right in,right in hand with um, with your
(01:10:06):
legacy, if you you want to callit that, and it's just
beautiful because it's aconfirmation.
Uh, I take everything asconfirmation on both ends and,
like this conversation you'vegiven me over, I don't know, I
can't even count, because almostevery sentence is a
confirmation.
So I'm just so honored.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I am honored.
I am honored that you canreceive this information.
I am honored.
I am honored that you canreceive this information.
I've had another person thatactually Noah referred me to be
on his show and oh, there wereso many, this got changed, that
got changed.
And he's saying, oh, I'm sosorry, I have to reschedule, and
(01:10:53):
I, no, no, fine.
And when we got togethertogether he said those words to
me.
I was not ready to receive youyet and that's why there was
this cancellation and everything.
And he had had some.
Um, his name is Maurice Filigreeand I'm his name of his podcast
is escaping me right now, buthe got very emotional in the
(01:11:18):
podcast and I mean it's out forthe world now, so I'm not saying
anything out of school, but andhe was talking about his trips
to the Middle East and a lot ofother stuff that like paralleled
my life.
He was an FBI agent Okay, getit, get where I'm going, and but
(01:11:45):
it was everything.
It was like again, who said Goddoesn't have a sense of humor,
but we just, you know it wasclicking.
And then, and I said, I saidI'm having so much trouble with
this decision, but you've helpedme with it, and I said I held
back because it had to do withgoing to Lebanon.
Those were his trips, whateverhe's doing there.
(01:12:07):
And I said would it help you ifI told you that I'm Lebanese?
I am.
He said yes.
Oh my God, oh my God, this isthat.
Because that's no accidents,coincidence or happenstance.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
No, Wow, no, wow.
I just, I literally feel somuch love in my heart right now,
so much healing, so much peace.
I will love for everyone thatis listening.
For the love of god, pleasereach out so that you can be in
(01:12:54):
Rhonda's program, please.
This is going to change herlife.
I'm serious.
She truly embodies, she'sauthentic, she is genuine, she's
loving.
I can, I can feel it and I youknow when we've been doing this
kind of work.
You can spot people in lessthan 60 seconds.
It's just energy speaks foritself.
(01:13:17):
Um, so open your your minds andyour hearts to trying something
different than everything elseyou've tried so far and just uh,
is it, um, how did?
Is it just a link that we canput in the description later, or
is it a call that they bookthrough to find out more?
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
We'll put the link in the description later.
We'll put that and my websiteis helpmerondanowcom.
Helpmerondanowcom, and peruseit.
There's lots of valuableinformation.
It's all free, other than ifyou take a course.
But that's the thing with me.
(01:14:05):
If I have something to leavelisteners and viewers with, it's
.
Number one you are not alone.
Reach out.
If you don't reach out to me,if you don't reach out to
Rosilia, reach out to someone.
And if you don't know who toreach out, to just listen,
(01:14:29):
listen to your heart and beaware that someone or something
will cross, and be aware thatsomeone or something will cross.
Don't worry about the how ofliving an empowered life.
The how is coming.
Just put it out there.
I want to live a better life.
Enough is enough.
I want to live a better lifeand listen, because the how the
people places, situations,circumstances, the resources
(01:14:51):
will come to you.
And number two, don't try andavoid it, because running from
anything remember wherever yougo you take yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And before we wrap this up, I want to say that
everything you've said soundsvery true to me, but this
particular one.
In my near-death experience Icouldn't run away from myself,
from my fears, from my guilt,from my own self-judgment.
(01:15:27):
You can travel the world, youcan die, and you're still.
You can't run.
So you might as well start nowcultivating that love for
yourself.
There's nowhere to go.
It doesn't matter if you commitsuicide.
You can't escape it, guys.
I hate to tell you frompersonal experience, it's still
(01:15:48):
going to haunt you.
I mean eventually, yeah, we gothrough different planes of
consciousness and eventually youknow you get into a certain
level of consciousness and backto source and and so on.
But you still have to gothrough that learning, whether
it's here or in a differentplane where you have to come to
that understanding of loving,accepting yourself, forgiving
(01:16:08):
yourself, not judging yourself,being compassionate with
yourself.
You might as well just starthere and start today and start
now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
This is your enough.
Take it.
It's a personal invitation,take it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Oh, that sounds beautiful.
To wrap it up, I don't know howyou feel about that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I do, but I have one thing to say.
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
One thing to say Ooh, God breath.
Yeah, you got to say it, Rhonda.
I invite our listeners and ourviewers to treat life as if it
were ice cream.
Enjoy it before it melts.
Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Thank you.
Hi Rhonda, Welcome to Quantum Alchemist Master
Podcast.
Even the little setbacks thatwe've had for connecting, I am
so glad that you're here and I'mvery excited to hear your story
.
So whatever you would like toshare with us is more than
welcome in the space.
I'm sure everybody is waitingto hear about you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, well, thank you , rosalia.
Thank you for inviting me asyour guest.
I'm excited to be here.
And when I saw the name of yourpodcast, quantum Alchemist,
alchemy because I am analchemist, I'm an alchemist, I'm
a coach, I'm a speaker, I'm awriter, but alchemy is what we
(00:41):
obviously have in common.
And actually, I'm originallyfrom the East Coast, connecticut
, and I was in California quitea few years and making my way
back to Connecticut within thenext few months and I'm in a
work project right now inColorado Springs.
Okay, beautiful, so let's startthere.
(01:05):
Alchemist, and so many peoplesay, what, what do you do?
I said, well, I'm an alchemist,a coach, a lifestyle
empowerment alchemist, coach,speaker and writer.
And they look at me like huh, Igo.
Well, alchemy, you know, is theprecursor to chemistry.
Not that I at all have any leftbrain ability.
(01:30):
Okay, I'll take that back.
I may have a little, but I amnot a left brain person.
I never took chemistry.
I opted I think it wasenvironmental science when it
came time to do that, in mentalscience when it came time to do
that.
But we are all alchemists if weknow it, whether we know it or
not, and it's essential to knowthat because I believe that it's
(01:55):
the joys, the good stuff andthe not-so-good stuff that lets
us live the life we desire, thatlets us live an empowered life,
perhaps the life that we dreamabout.
So I grew up on the East Coastand I had a stay-at-home mom,
(02:15):
very traditional family, and adad who preferred mom
stay-at-home.
I'm the oldest of threebrothers and one sister.
I'm the oldest of threebrothers and one sister and till
about through third grade, Iwould say, I lived in what we
call an extended family.
So it was parents, my siblings,grandparents, aunts, great
aunts I think there was an unclethere at one point so 13 people
(02:39):
for a time in the samehousehold, under the same roof.
So lots of love and lots ofdiscipline one way or another,
and, and because I'm the oldestof five, I took on the role of
nurturer and wanting to nurtureothers, and and the household
was primarily female.
(03:01):
So that sense of love andnurturing from primarily, you
know, my mom, my aunts, my greataunts, my grandmother, yes.
So it was all that put togetherthat led me into the field of
being of service to others.
I got interested in psychologyservice to others.
(03:23):
I got interested in psychology.
That's what I did Counselingpsychology, educational
psychology, and went through,got my master's degree, all in
Connecticut, and I did that fora while.
I was a psychotherapist forquite a while and then, in 2005,
I made the switch to AlchemistCoach, understanding that, yeah,
(03:49):
the client should really takeresponsibility for their health
and well-being, for living thelife that they desire.
And again, I have plenty ofcredentials, including the
International CoachingFederation.
However, my best credentials arethat I have come out on the
other side of stuff that wastraumatic stuff.
(04:10):
That was that not so good stuffand I had it serve me rather
than anything less.
And that not so good stuffincluded incarceration in a
women's federal prison camp,breast cancer, several divorces
and financial room.
But I'm still here.
I'm still here becauseobviously, god I call it God,
(04:34):
whatever you call it universe,source, spirit, the divine, had
bigger plans for me and the planwas to let people know that
they are not alone with that notso good stuff that they are
going through and to help themhelp themselves.
So that's a brief introductionto me and you may ask me
(04:55):
whatever you'd like to ask me.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's very heavy.
Let's start unpacking that alittle bit.
So first of all, I feel veryempowered just by the tone of
your voice, by your vibration,by your frequency, by your
energy for those that are goingto be looking at this video,
because I can see that you arethe embodiment of what you're
(05:19):
speaking about.
Yes, so it.
You just your energy justautomatically transfers over and
it's very palpable.
You could really really feelthat.
So thank you for your presencein the podcast today.
I'm sure I'm doing tons ofhealing by just having this
conversation right here.
So I am, I am blessed.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You're very welcome Because, as healers, that's how
we heal.
You're very welcome Because, ashealers, that's how we heal.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
We help others help themselves.
Yeah, so I want to start there.
I usually tell people in theprograms that I run, which is
probably similar to somewhat towhat you do, which is a 90 day
(06:04):
transformation where we takeresponsibility, and I would say
it's like radical responsibilityand responsibility.
And I always say it's likeradical responsibility and
responsibility.
I break it into two responseand abilities, or ability to
respond to whatever happens tous, to life, to circumstances,
to whatever source, whateverthat may be for you.
And it is really going withinto find that strength, that
(06:28):
power to co-create that.
But I'm sure in your journey, aswell as probably mine and many
others, it wasn't always likethat.
It was a road to get to thatplace.
So for those starting out andit's fine, we're not judging
(06:48):
anyone, we have walked the path.
That's.
This is why and we still arewe're always evolving and
learning.
But for those that maybe aredealing with a lot of victim,
you know tendencies or behaviorsand patterns and and addictions
and they're just kind of likein that loop.
You know that you feel like youjust can't get out, no matter
what you do, that you're just inthat loop.
(07:09):
What would you say for thosepeople?
Or maybe you want to put anexample from your own journey,
like how were you able to getout of that loop, like even
being in prison let's just takethat into account, because in my
book that's a big problem tohave.
So how were you able to dealwith that mentally, emotionally,
physically, spiritually?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, what I would say to others, in whatever their
circumstance or event, is,whatever they happen to be going
through, number one you are notalone.
You're not.
You're just not alone.
You may feel alone and you mayfeel like the roof is falling in
on you, and in my early forties, that was the last place I
expected to be in a women'sfederal prison camp.
(07:52):
It was a camp.
It was no bars or anything likethat, but still for a while,
that stigma Convict okay on myforehead.
I began, however, there.
It took took about a year beingin this prison camp with 300
(08:14):
women just imagine that andunderstanding, not understanding
that I was there, but I wasthere for a reason.
There are no accidents,coincidences or happenstances,
n-o-no.
I was there for a reason.
It did take about a year for meto stop hitting the phone
(08:35):
against the wall and saying getme out of here, I don't belong
here.
One day in a phone call therewere 15 minute phone calls and
then that switched.
It was less but very difficultto parent in a 15 minute phone
call from prison camp.
However, I did stop hitting thephone against the wall and I
(08:59):
remember it like it wasyesterday.
And there it is.
There's my aha breath, I callit my God breath, it's a
confirming breath.
And I remember is there's myaha breath, I call it my God
breath, it's a confirming breath.
And I remember just sayingaloud oh well, and that began my
journey of surrender.
That began the journey ofsurrender pivoting me right back
to be in service to others,because my purported crime,
(09:25):
which was later my sentence, wasexpunged after six years in
there.
The nonviolent, non-drugrelated, so I was there for a
reason I was actually doingwellness classes for women One
second.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
How long were you there again for Six years.
I just wanted to make sure thatI heard that correct.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, I look at it as six of my birthdays, my
daughters, all of my family, sixof every holiday that there was
.
I didn't like it, but the thingthat helped me you asked me
that early on was that somehow Ifound a gift and I found a
(10:10):
blessing in that situation and Itook it.
I took that gift and I tookthat blessing and I began to
peel the onion skin away, peelit down to who my true, true
self is self with a capital sself, our authentic power from
within, the power to thrive andnot barely survive.
(10:32):
That was the journey I was onand you know, god was trying to
catch my attention long beforewe started with the pebbles,
then a two by four and then the,the brick.
That was a big brick.
That was a major timeout for me, major timeout.
I was extremely humbled and Ineeded it.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Can you tell us about that?
Is it possible?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sure, my quote unquote crime had to do with um,
oh, look at that, I like thelittle baby.
Thank you, you know, dogs feltbackwards as God.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I hadn't even stopped to realize that.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I found myself in a situation that was totally
unbelievable to me and, as Irecall it, I began to recall
certain things when I changedthe brand of my company.
Fix your reflection first andlive your best life ever is my
company, and I am beginning tooffer now a 90 day.
(11:44):
Uh, turn yourself around, likeyou.
Why do your 12 months?
Let's do 12 week segments withrespect to living your best life
ever.
So all during this period, thatwas like the surreal to me.
(12:05):
I never had a traffic ticket,so there was a long range of
events that caused what itcaused, and I find myself in
California being arraigned, andit was only by God's grace that
what happened happened.
(12:26):
I was released with an anklebracelet and then began the
turmoil of my gosh.
This is like for real.
This is very much real, very,very scary as well, and my
(12:48):
daughter was 14 at the time, Ifyou don't mind me asking who who
was taking care of yourchildren while that was
happening.
I have one, my sister and myex-husband at that time, at that
(13:10):
time.
So I find myself in thissituation and, though it was
totally incredible, it was, oneblessing happened after another
for me, and I truly mean that.
I just began to develop thisstrength.
I began to work.
My spiritual muscles wereworking, even before I knew they
were working.
That subconscious mind of mineWell, she was in there, she was
(13:33):
rooting for me and it ended upin a trial back in Connecticut.
That's where my charges arefrom, and back in Connecticut,
that's where my charges are from.
I was living in California atthe time and there were so many
(13:57):
things that we put paperwork infor a dismissal.
Everything fell by the wayside,everything was rejected Because
, I mean, I didn't like it atthat time.
But then I came to know I'msupposed to be here.
I'm supposed to be here to notonly learn about myself but help
others learn about themselvesAgain, pivoted right back into
being of service to others and,lo and behold, I made a life
(14:24):
there.
I mean, I was again.
I was in a camp to begin with,but then I was sent to the
Presidio in San Francisco, fivedays a week, five of us for
gardening, for you know thingsthat you wouldn't expect.
We didn't make license platesor anything like that and it was
(14:45):
like, okay, I really don't likethat.
I'm here, but I am blessed.
I always had a track to run on.
I'm an avid runner, I've been arunner for 49 years.
I had a track.
I started giving wellnessclasses, not only for physically
but emotionally for the womenin there, and I was okay because
(15:10):
I was doing what I was meant tobe doing and I was being of
service to others.
And I would always remark Isaid, wow, I'm in here with all
these women Like they could besisters, a couple or like a
daughter to me, and I was like amom to them, grandmothers,
(15:32):
literally in there.
And I learned as well what Ihad always believed when you
remove the matriarch from thefamily, devastating, devastating
.
Not that men don't matter, okay, but when you remove the
solidarity of the mom from thefamily, that's a path to
(15:53):
destruction for many families.
And the statistic at that timeI there were so many women
incarcerated.
I read a lot, I did a lot ofresearch, that over 66% of
(16:15):
people incarcerated were women.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's a big percentage.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's a big percentage.
That's a big percentage.
That's a big percentage.
And the recidivism rate thosethat return was nearly 70%.
So I wasn't giving interviewsat that time, but I remarked in
things that I had written.
We might as well just put barsaround the United States, I mean
(16:49):
what's going on.
So I got over that.
I wasn't on a soapbox at allbecause of that.
I helped those that wish to behelped.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Can we pause there in that quote for a moment?
Do you mind there for in thatquote for a moment?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
do you mind?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
yes, because the same thing happens to me, uh, with
people, and it took me a while,even with my family, to come to
that understanding.
Um, you know, there's a lot ofwhat our soul chose, um, for us
to experience as well, um, andit takes some time or or it did
for me to understand that we'reall walking our path.
We all have different timing,we all have a different way of
(17:32):
viewing the universe, the world,whatever it is our own lens of
perception of life, and I havetaken kind of like a step back
and just allowed for theuniverse to bring to me those
that want the help and not beupfront, like oh hey, you know,
(17:54):
here are these tools or thisresources, or maybe read this
book, or like, you know, becauseyou just can't help but to want
to share with everyone.
Right, so it takes a little bitto learn how to navigate those
waters, but what you just saidis so powerful because it can
only be.
You can't force a horse, right?
(18:17):
What's that saying?
To drink water?
Drink the water, yeah yeah, sothat's very, very powerful,
powerful.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And the other thing, too, is because I am a nurturer,
I think most women are okay umagain, not that men aren't.
But I had to learn that is notmy right nor my obligation to
want for someone whether it's afamily member or a client or an
audience want for them what theydo not want for themselves.
(18:51):
Not my right nor my obligation.
Shame on me.
I told you I was humble and Istick by that.
So this program now that willbe, it'll be open, you know, in
(19:11):
a matter of a week, but it's notfor the faint of heart.
I think you know what I mean.
I mean, we're going to do somework and I literally help you,
help yourself, because you havethat power.
We all do our innate power, theauthentic power from within.
I caught my godly self, notmerely my earthling self, and we
(19:33):
all have it, and that's why I'mdedicated to awakening hearts,
minds and, most especially,spirit to the power from within.
So I don't mince words.
Okay, I'm very kind, I'm veryloving, I'm very compassionate.
I love dogs and I but I don't.
(19:55):
The escapades in my life I callthem escapades sometimes that
not so good stuff have given methe right to say to someone Hmm,
you, what is it that you'recomplaining about?
I mean, I could be a lot morevocal and you can cut it out if
you want.
But sometimes I will even say Inot sitting here, so, you, I
(20:18):
can take the hair across yourass, that's it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You can say whatever you want.
We say curse words on whateverin the show.
It doesn't matter, that's itgotta hear whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We say curse words on whatever in the show, it
doesn't matter.
This is my, this is.
The east coast is coming out nowand the authentic power from
within is coming out.
So I can't deal with that, withpeople that because they have a
hair across their ass, they'refalling apart.
Okay, it's okay, if you fallapart, that's fine, but you have
to understand that you must dothe work I have.
(20:48):
As a psychotherapist, I havethis toolbox.
As an alchemist, I have thistoolbox.
I got plenty of tools, but ifyou don't use them, it's like
people that buy self-helpcourses and they never use them.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh my God, can we pause for that phone in there
for a?
Second I have had hundreds ofpeople come across my program
and I could see if they're doingit or not, Like I can see their
progress.
It's a you know, I don't wantto say don't BS me, but like I
can literally see how manymodules you did, what percentage
(21:22):
you completed 10% of peoplecompleted.
Yeah 10% of people completed.
The amount of value ofinformation I'm sure you have in
those programs are worthinfinite.
I mean, there's no amount youwould be able to charge, over a
million dollars for the onecourse that you're having on
(21:46):
there, except you don't.
You choose to make it availableto most and you choose to give
it.
But again, we come back to areyou ready?
If you've, if you've hit abrick wall, if you're at least
in my journey, where I was, andI'm sure some of the stuff that
you've mentioned, you're goingto do it because, because you
need to, because there's noother way, you're not going to
(22:09):
give yourself another option.
You only have option A.
So, yeah, yeah, thank you forpointing that out.
Sorry, go ahead.
I just I.
It's a pet peeve of mine thatpeople have the resources and
they don't use it.
Um, and it's a shame.
It's a shame because your lifecan transform so much quicker,
so fast.
(22:29):
I mean your soul literally justchose to come down reincarnate,
go through hell.
Okay, on earth to show others.
It's freaking possible, nomatter your situation.
You're sharing it, you have aprogram, you're giving all the
tools, and yet we can't be quietenough to listen or to follow
(22:52):
directions or to follow thebreadcrumbs.
Back home, back to our soul,back to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And to understand that if people are going through
whatever you happen to be goingthrough, whatever tunnel you
happen to be journeying down,that light is not a train coming
at you.
That light is the guidance,it's the blueprint, it's the
wherewithal to utilize yourauthentic power from within and
(23:22):
move forward in your life tolive your best life ever.
And that's what?
What an alchemist.
What's an alchemist?
Well, this is what did I do?
I?
Basically, I take the joys aswell as the shit in people's
lives because I've done it withmy own and help them live their
(23:42):
best life ever, whatever thatmay happen to be.
And that their best life ever,whatever that may happen to be,
and that changes Best life everis not simply financial
Abundance is not simplyfinancial.
That's the least of it.
So here's, you know I'm goingto show you and don't tell me
that I don't know what I'mtalking about.
Okay, let's just part asfriends, because we're not for
(24:06):
each other.
This isn't a mate, this isn't amarriage, this isn't any mating
going on here, because I'm oneperson, you're one person, those
of us that are healers, we'reonly one person.
We can't do it for someone else.
I can change me.
Watch how everything changesaround with my family and with
(24:32):
colleagues, with people thatI've shed because of the
experience that I've gonethrough, experiences.
So it's really important tounderstand, to know you're not
alone and to take responsibility, whatever that may happen to
mean, and to trust yourintuition.
You know, the God of myunderstanding is right here.
Our emotions there's twoemotions fear and love.
(24:55):
No more emotions, only fear andonly love.
That's it.
So if you're living in fear,you're going to create certain
thoughts which will create yourexternal world.
If you're living in love,you're going to create other
thoughts which will create yourexternal world.
And it sounds so simple.
It's simple, but it's not easy.
(25:17):
That's why none of this life isnot for the faint of heart, and
life I'm tight.
Oh, you know what happened inmy life?
Life is not for the faint ofheart.
In life I'm tight.
Oh, you know what happened tomy life that caused me to be
this victim?
And I've been a victim for thelast 20, 30, 40 years.
What do you mean?
Well, what happened?
You got divorced, I got threeunder my belt and now they all
(25:42):
want me back.
That was my cycle of breakingpatterns that do not serve me.
That's why it was important.
Fix my reflection first.
You know I'm not telling youanything new.
Mirror work has been around forages.
I look in the mirror everymorning.
How are you today?
You look great.
I love you, rhonda.
I like you, rhonda, and I gothrough the scenario of whatever
(26:06):
I'm going to say and you knowwhatever I'm manifesting on any
given day, and I feel like awinner.
There was a lot.
While I would look in themirror, I felt very downtrodden
with everything happening to me.
Now.
I felt very downtrodden Waseverything happening to me now?
And I went back to when I, whenI was charged with what I was
(26:30):
charged with, my first attorneywanted me to plead guilty.
I'm going to get you a deal.
Well, I don't know what thatmeans.
What do you mean?
Well, I want you to do this.
I said, basically, you want meto throw people under the bus?
I no, you know why?
Because I got to look in mymirror.
I didn't even realize what Iwas saying at that point.
(26:51):
I got to look in my mirrorevery morning and look at me.
So I'm not going to do that toothers.
And then it went on and went onand went.
But I learned a lot.
I learned a lot about myself.
There was not one day, as wellas in my other escapades, that I
did not laugh or cry, andlaughter and tears are a sign of
(27:16):
growth.
If you're not laughing, ifyou're not crying, then you're
not growing, and you might wantto think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Thank you so much for pointing that out.
Honestly, I can't even imaginewhat you went through, but your
journey is so impactful I reallyhope the listeners can it
(27:46):
really allows them to to use youas a mirror to reflect back
into their life and theircircumstance and say, okay, if
she literally you know got herLotus out of the mud out of
whatever situation, so can I, socan I of the mud out of
(28:08):
whatever situation.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So can I, so can I, I'm not even anywhere near close
to her situation.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, and and having your guidance is so important
and so valuable, especially yougoing through all of these
things.
Um, I don't know whatpercentage of people get
divorced, but it's very high.
Um, um, and and you've beenthrough three of those so far,
and I'm sure let me tell yousomething, at this stage in your
(28:31):
life, I'm sure you can speak topeople about anything addiction
, whatever I mean, you name itrelationships, self-worth,
whatever it may be.
You're like, I'm sure you'relike a 360.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Bring it.
Come on, what do you want totell me?
Yeah, what is it?
Heard it all.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I probably lived most of it, so please, yeah, so if
somebody was listening to thisand wanted to get into your.
Is it a 90 day program?
I don't want to confuse it withmy 90 day.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I call it 12 weeks, okay.
So first and live your bestlife ever, and it's two hours.
Once it's done.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Tell us more about it .
Is it like a group session?
Is it a one-to-one?
Is it prerecorded modules, Likewhat?
What can we expect from theprogram?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, it's 12 weeks of me in the group.
I'm taking 15 to begin with, 15women.
12 weeks, two hours per week,and in addition to that there
are discounts on my individualcoaching.
There's some free coaching inthere as well, but you must do
(29:46):
the work and you will learn.
You're going to learn how to gowithin and identify and
extricate that power that youhave, cause I guarantee you
don't even know you have it.
You know there's somethingthere because you're saying,
yeah, enough is enough.
Okay, I'm, I think I'm ready.
I'm not sure, but I think I'mready.
You, that means you, you'regonna once you get out of your
(30:09):
comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's where life begins.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Come on, I've been out of my comfort zone and the
interesting part of of all ofthat is I've always believed
that a circumstance that we go,circumstances that we go through
, prepare us for the next.
So here I am in Women's FederalPrison Camp, minding my own
(30:33):
business role model to others,and I know I have a lump on my
breast.
I know I have a lump on mybreast, but I also know that I'm
not going to get the righttreatment.
And I'm also in disbeliefBecause I'm a runner, I'm an
(30:55):
athlete, I never took any streetdrugs in my life, never smoked,
and it's like, okay, what'snext?
But I kept everything at bay alot of prayer, a lot of
meditation, a lot of reading,because I said, well, all I need
to do is get home and take careof this.
(31:15):
And I was good with that.
I was good with it.
I was still scared.
There's a difference betweenfear and being scared.
I was good with it.
I was still scared.
There's a difference betweenfear and being scared.
I was scared.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Can you tell us more about that difference?
Do you mind no?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
not at all.
Fearful means.
If you're fearful, then you'rereally not accepting that
scaredness and I don't believein that.
I don't believe in shoving theemotions down, because you know
what they're going to erupt atthe most inopportune time.
It's like the toiletoverflowing when you have a
(31:53):
house full of guests, literally.
So don't shove the emotions.
Feel the emotions.
Hey, I know sadness, I knowanger.
I know anger, I know resentment, I know non-forgiveness, until
I got smart about living anempowered life and was grateful
for those situations that I wasin, as well as forgave who I
(32:16):
have to forgive, includingmyself.
So the difference between beingscared and being in fear Fear
is like you're immobilized,never mind about making a
decision to get out of yourcomfort zone and live your best
life ever.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, that freeze responds, that sympathetic
nervous system, that fight orflight yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
So feel your emotions , but understand you don't need
to react by just being in fear.
You can respond aha, breath,that's that god confirming
breath again, and and that's aconfirming breath for me and I
don't mind sharing that at allwith anybody sure go ahead.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Do you mind give it, walking us through it or, if you
want well it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
a lot of people have asked me.
Many have asked me what?
How did you know like yousurrendered?
I said, well, I didn't.
I said my subconscious mindknew.
But I really didn't know.
But I did know that I wasfeeling better about myself, I
was feeling freer out myself.
(33:28):
I was, I was feeling freer.
I always, I always say I had tobe imprisoned, incarcerated in
order to be liberated.
Very freeing, very freeing.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's so powerful.
You know, I, I I'm sorry tointerrupt you there, but, um, I
am in contact with Alan that hewas incarcerated as well in New
York and he brought meditationinto a lot of the prison systems
in New York and now I'm tryingto get together with him to see
(33:59):
how I can bring breath work andmeditation, but at a larger
scale, and get it into, you know, just kind of like statewide or
something, and just make itmore readily available, maybe
having a free online program forpeople that are in a 12 step
program or in prison that theycan access and learn how to do
(34:21):
this, or with a guided, you know, just like baby steps, right,
so they can kind of come intothis and start reprogramming
their subconscious mind so thatthen they can really start
making those changes.
Just maybe hear some insightsor tips about your experience
(34:48):
and maybe how we can somehowmake this work.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's just a vision, it's nothing else.
That's what is my dear, that'swhere it begins.
But I will go on about that,about you know just when?
Okay, 11 months before release,I've got a lump on my breast,
okay.
Then my release was delayed,okay.
But another.
All things I've forgiven.
(35:11):
And I remember the day that Iwent to a halfway house for a
short period of time and theyfound out I had a lump on my
breast because I told them andthey couldn't wait to get rid of
me.
And they found out I had a lumpon my breast because I told
them and they could wait to getrid of me.
So I went to my own doctors inCalifornia and scared still
(35:32):
scared, but not in fear, notimmobilized, and, of course, was
diagnosed with breast cancerand Breast Cancer Awareness
Month, of course, october and of2005.
And everyone said, well, howdid you?
What was the biopsy?
(35:52):
And I would say, well, it's notthe worst news, but it's not
the best.
And it's not the best, but it'snot the worst news.
And I got through it.
And we're going to talk moreabout the power from within.
So I again, I've never taken anystreet drugs.
(36:14):
I don't like surgery, I don'tlike going to the doctor.
I don't like any of that stuff.
So I went and saw a medicalQigong person I had seen my
oncologist.
I had seen turned out to be thebreast.
They call him the best breastguy.
I was in Monterey at the timeCalifornia Best breast guy in
(36:36):
the United States, if not theworld.
So I got him okay, this can bechemically treated.
And I said, huh.
And I told him you know, eventhough I've never taken any
street drugs in my life, I meanaspirin was a big thing for me.
I said you know, I think I likethat we can treat this
(37:01):
chemically.
Then I thought, hmm, I reallywant to do that.
All these bouts of you know,with chemotherapy and then this
and that again, that's the.
That was my biggest fear.
It wasn't the cancer, it was mybiggest fear.
I started with the medicalQigong and I three weeks later.
(37:23):
So I delayed.
They wanted to start chemo.
I delayed and something justsaid delay, do your medical
qigong.
I went back to my oncologistand she said to me my daughter
was standing there.
She said I don't know whatyou're doing, but you're
shrinking your tumor.
My daughter's head spun aroundon her neck and she said you're
(37:46):
buying this shit too.
The medical could go onprofessional.
He said go to back to youroncologist.
The diagnostics of Westernmedicine are the best that there
are.
So I knew I had that fear ofgoing through chemo and whatever
else was going to happen.
(38:06):
And I just at that time saidwell, I know I'm doing this, but
I also know I have this fearand the way to overcome this
fear is to go through Westernmedicine as well as Eastern
medicine, which is what I did.
Now I told you I'm a runner,okay, and I was running a lot
faster in those days and I wasactually running and fast
(38:33):
walking while I was goingthrough chemo.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Can I ask you something personal?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yes, did you ever doubt of just going more the
Eastern way and not choosing toD?
Was that something that crossedyour head, like doing any
alternative medicines, energywork, plant medicine, like
whatever?
But but that was not somethingyou you considered.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Let me tell you why I didn't do it solely.
My family was having a nervousbreakdown at this whole thing.
I just been released fromprison and now this so I didn't
I and I said this is going to, Igonna, I'm gonna, overcome this
fear, which I did, and I wentthrough five months of chemo, uh
(39:33):
, but I didn't have.
I had think I think had oneside effect.
That was it, and I was walkingand jogging and you know, doing
other things.
Yes, I my hair, but peoplewould look at me and say you
look like a prophet with no hair.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I said I'll take that as a compliment 100%.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
And then the day came where, okay, they got to do
this thing they call the cleanout the margins.
So I have a little war scarhere, but that's okay.
And I get to the I wasoutpatient get to the surgical
center.
My daughter took me and I'm onthe gurney and I'm looking.
(40:23):
It's a beautiful day.
I'm on the gurney and it's abeautiful day.
I'm looking at the sunshine andI'm talking and the OR nurse,
who's going to be my OR nurse.
She comes and says are youcalling me?
Do you need something?
And I said no, I was justhaving a little talk with God
and she knew.
She knew exactly what I wastalking about.
(40:44):
This is how much she knew.
This is my gift and blessing.
Again, a confirmation You'regoing to be all right, rhonda.
She says, oh, your hair isgrowing back.
This is like fuzz.
And she pulls back her skullcap and she says maybe it'll
grow back as curly as mine did.
I like that.
(41:07):
Somebody that went through whatI went through and she was now
helping others, being of serviceto others.
That was my message.
That was like you're going tobe okay because you got to be
here.
Another blessing I go throughall that and I come home and
(41:33):
again, you know I'm weak, butI'm strong in here.
The weaknesses that I enduredif they were weaknesses made me
even stronger, made thatauthentic power even work more
Like working the muscles, mademe better for everything that
(41:54):
was going on.
So got through that, got through40 blasts of radiation, and
that was, I'll tell you, what.
That was tougher than being inprison.
(42:14):
Then the devastating effects ofI was divorced early on from my
daughter's father, but then oneright after another, two
marriages lasted maybe a yearfirst and then two, two and a
half second.
That was completely devastatingbecause that was like, oh,
(42:38):
betrayal, and like what did Iever do?
But long story short, I couldnever have carried on the work
that I am doing Ever With peoplethat weren't supportive of me
(42:59):
or that were threatened,intimidated by me, and I was not
nearly this vocal and thisenergized, not nearly so.
When I look in the mirror nowand I didn't before I see the
love of my life.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Can we pause there for a second?
That is so important.
Can we pause there for a second?
(43:49):
That is so important because alot of times we're looking for
the one outside of ourselves forso long, or for that other half
, god within yourself,consciousness, you as the
observer of your life, as thewitness of all the I near death
is.
We're just one, right, we'rejust one, and love is the answer
(44:11):
.
That's what I always say Justone loving frequency running
through everything and everyone,and just being able to find
freedom, regardless of yourcircumstances.
That I'm terrible atremembering the sayings, I'm
sorry about that.
Like, like flourish whereveryou're planted, or something
(44:32):
similar, I don't know, throwwherever you're planted.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Thanks, you're correct, all my sayings oh, I've
lived that, I've lived it yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You've lived it.
Yeah, it's lifted and you're atestament to that, and just
being able to have you here andbeing and having this testimony
for eternity, because whateveryou put out will always be there
.
You know, whether it's throughpodcast, books, whatever,
(45:06):
whichever way we have ofcommunicating with one another,
is those breadcrumbs, um, for usto to to remember to follow
again, um, so that we can,basically, I used to say, go
make our way back home, butwe're always home.
We just can't recall that, um,it took a long time for me to
understand that I wasn't goinganywhere.
I'm already exactly where Ineed to be in the now moment,
(45:30):
every single time.
But falling in love withyourself is one of the most
beautiful journeys we're evergoing to go on and you, bringing
light to that, don't know that.
Just hit home that yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
You know, whatever I was trying to avoid, I attracted
.
No, no fault of their own, wasmine, was mine, it's my doing.
We call everything forward.
I called forward, for whateverreason, the wrong choices, poor
choices, whether it was prison,whether it was cancer, whether
(46:14):
it was failed relationships andfinancial ruin.
Called it all forward so Icould learn the lessons.
I don't bounce back, I bounceforward.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Love that.
You guys can't feel it, but asI look at her, I am just, I am
telling you I am, I feel herenergy and I am healing through
this conversation because it isat such a deep level that I hope
(46:49):
you guys can grasp the depth ofevery word that has been shared
here, because if you reallylook at it, from the micro to
the macro, everything has beentouched in this conversation.
It all depends on what lensesyou're seeing it with.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And I'm thankful for all situations.
I really am.
You know the blessing in failedmarriages as well.
I certainly know what I don'twant and I'm going to be brave
and courageous enough tocontinue my path.
This is my journey.
Now, I'm not saying I'm notopen to love, but it's going to
(47:32):
be different.
It's got to be different orelse I can't.
I'll lose myself again.
Through all these escapades, Icall them my three midlife
crises, okay, the through allthose.
These times, the biggestdevastation for me was that I
lost my sense of self with acapital S lost.
(47:52):
Can I ask you what around?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
what ages these?
These things happen of selfwith a capital S Lost.
Can I ask you around what agesthese things happen?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Early 40s for the prison Right at 2005,.
Diagnosed with breast cancerSince 2006,.
March 2006, the end of themonth, cancer free.
Okay, march 2006, the end ofthe month, cancer-free.
And you know it's like okay,after radiation and you finished
(48:25):
all your treatments, you get todo this thing.
You ring a bell and everyoneknows that's being treated, that
okay, she rang the bell, that'sgoing to be me someday.
I'm going to be okay, right,and I don't again.
I bounce forward.
You probably know what I'mfeeling.
(48:54):
It's that it's inexplicable,but I'm even smiling.
Okay Again.
These are signs of growth and Ialso learned.
One big thing I learned wasthat I stopped worrying about
what everyone thinks about me.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
That's a heavy one.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
If you're not worried about what you think about
yourself, that's a problem.
Look in that mirror.
Can you look in the mirror?
Can you say you're great, youare wonderful.
I believe the most selflessthing a woman can do is be
selfish.
Is self-care, self-love is beselfish.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
is self-care, self-love, self-esteem,
self-appreciation, self-respectBecause we won't get it if we do
not put it out there?
Yeah, it's cultivating yourgarden, your own garden.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yes, that's how come you grow where you're planted.
I have to.
I have a picture I've given hasbeen given so many signs in my
journey.
So I'm here in Colorado Springsand I'm, you know, jogging now
and I turned 66 last, last month, and I'm thankful that I'm
jogging.
Okay, thank you.
And I see, you know, it getscold here, not like in
(50:15):
Connecticut, and there's not asmuch snow here, but in the
winter I saw this the end offall, beginning of winter, I saw
this marigold, a littlemarigold plant, probably from a
seed.
The seed had gone into betweenthe curb and the sidewalk and it
was.
(50:35):
I took a picture of it and Isent it to a few people and one
of us, one of my sister-in-laws,and she says this is the way I
feel all the time I said this isyour opportunity to grow where
you're planted 100 and, and I aman avid gardener as well, so I
(50:55):
know the beauty of pruning.
Okay, I know the beauty ofpruning.
It must be done in order tohave a good harvest.
It must be.
Whatever it is I'm sowing, Itake responsibility for it, just
as I did in the past, and Imove forward, I bounce forward,
(51:19):
and that's the lesson to others.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, it's so beautiful and so powerful,
everything that you have shared.
I think I haven't heard aboutyour financial ruin yet.
We haven't touched on that yet,because it's just like one
thing after the other.
So it's like I've remedied.
Oh, I've remedied that.
It's a lot Like how did thatintertwine with this whole
(51:50):
journey?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Was it before, after, like how does During the whole
process, you got to spend moneyfor attorneys.
After, like, how does Bring thewhole process?
You got to spend money forattorneys.
Okay, the whole process, thewhole process.
Medical.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Medical true.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Saying to the last two divorces take it, I'm out of
here.
You want a divorce?
Fine, take it.
I'm not going through this.
It's divorce, fine, take it,I'm not going through this.
It's too much toxicity.
Take what you want, it allcomes back one way or another.
It may not come from where youthink it's going to come from,
but, whatever it is, it's love.
I scold clients now I say well,what kind of partner do you
(52:34):
want?
What kind of spouse?
Oh, one that doesn't treat meas bad as this one.
I go, huh, I go, I can't helpyou.
I can't help you because that'snot the way to help yourself
Living that way, speaking thatway, thinking that way Not going
to happen that way, thinkingthat way, not going to happen.
(52:56):
So and again, if you want joy,be joyful.
Find something to be joyfulabout.
You woke up, you put your feeton the floor, you have
toothpaste, you have coffee.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Sorry, that's my baby .
He'll be on the background forfrequency, upgrading frequencies
as people listen to us.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
He'll come down in just a bit.
Sorry, carry on.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
So again, you helping yourself.
You must not be a faint ofheart.
You must understand.
Okay, all this stuff happenedto me.
I didn't like it, but now I getto do something about it.
And if you can't look in themirror and say, no, enough is
(53:54):
enough, I need to do somethingfor me.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
And we pause there enough is enough.
I just want to really you guysto listen to that, because I
have come.
The changes I've been able tomake have been because I got to
that point that low low point ofenough is enough.
I got to that point that lowlow point of enough is enough.
(54:19):
When you get to that point,that's when we're ready to open
our hearts, when we're ready tochange, when we're more flexible
, when we're open to a differentopportunity.
Sometimes we have theopportunity and we just can't
see it.
We just maybe your gaze is downand you haven't looked up or
looked side to side to see whatelse is available for us to
(54:42):
choose from.
Enough is enough.
I want you guys to rememberthat sometimes I just repeat
stuff again and again so that itcan make incantations in the
neural pathways and it canreally stay in the subconscious
mind, hopefully, and get us tothink and question everything.
(55:05):
I think that's one of the mostimportant things to get us to
question everything our choices,the programming, our actions,
our habits.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, our choices, the programming, our actions,
our habits and what we areliving and what we are holding
in our hearts our minds too, butespecially our hearts is what
we are bringing to us, what weare calling forward.
It's no accidents, coincidenceor happenstance that you and I
met.
There's no, it's not, doesn't.
(55:42):
And then I didn't even knowthat your podcast was called
Quantum Alchemy and I said, oh,alchemy?
Okay.
Who said God doesn't have senseof humor?
Okay.
I was interviewed by two otherpeople.
One said alchemy, that's,there's a boutique down the
street for the alchemy.
And these are little signs,these are nuances that you're in
(56:08):
the right place in the righttime and take it from there.
That's it.
But that's being open, that'sbeing more than open-minded,
that's it, amen.
But that's being open, that'sbeing more than open-minded,
it's being open-hearted.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, so the connection between our minds and
our hearts, our right brain andour left brain, our hemi-sync,
is so important.
And look, I'm still dressed inscrubs.
I supervise six medical offices.
I'm a nurse practitioner, um,and for a very long time, I was
(56:45):
operating in my logical leftbrain, which is okay because it
helps us a lot throughout ourday-to-day operation.
That's beautiful and I'mgrateful to have to be able to
do that.
However, because, just like,like, like faith and like
spirituality, and that thespirit side of us, that that
muscle, like you mentioned itI've never heard it referring to
(57:08):
as a muscle, so I love thatit's sometimes the right side,
the creative side, that allowsus to connect our hearts, our
intuition, and bring forth thiskind of information guidance, um
is left untouched.
You know it's, it's uh, inschools, when they have to cut
(57:28):
budget, art is one of the firstthings to go.
Um, you know, people are tryingto survive.
You think they're going to payfor for our classes or for any
type of creativity for theirkids?
No, they want to put foot onthe table.
So a lot of this things is isput on on the backend and we
don't.
We're on survival.
We, we never allow ourselves tobe that creative co-creators
(57:50):
that we are.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Because we are, are because we are, and that is our
responsibility.
That that is our gift and ourblessing, so use it.
We've been given skills,talents and abilities.
Now give back with those, butfirst give to yourself.
Practice that self-love andself-care.
(58:14):
And how do you live anempowered life?
I am an alchemist, so I do havea formula.
The formula is gratitude plusforgiveness equals living the
life you desire.
Living the life you want tolive, perhaps the life that you
dream about.
Gratitude plus forgiveness.
Be grateful for yourself first,first and foremost, and
(58:36):
whatever you've been throughyou've just heard my escapades
and be grateful enough toforgive yourself for possibly
poor choices.
If they were poor choices, theythey're not mistakes.
There are no mistakes, and wefall so we can get up.
(58:56):
That's why we fall, so that wecan get up, because we have that
power 100%.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
So I want to pause and make that and just reinstate
that.
And just reinstate that,because a lot of my life changed
when I started meaningfully andreally waking up with gratitude
, which I the beginning I wasn't.
I just couldn't, um, because Iwas going through a very bad
(59:27):
depression.
Um, but you know what, even ifyou, if you're not in the best
place, if your circumstances isnot the best, try just speaking
to yourself differently.
Just start.
Maybe it's one word, onesentence, or maybe it's a mantra
that can play as a pattern.
Interrupt for negative thoughts, because it's okay to feel the
(59:51):
emotion.
Bring awareness to that.
I don't want you to repressthat.
It's so important becausethat's one of the ways that we
release and transform andtranscend trauma through the
body.
But you know, how long are yougoing to be playing out in a
victim mindset, holdingresentment for 10, 15 years,
like that's going to eat yourlife?
You're drinking your own poison, right?
So you want to kind of reallyplay your cards like, do I want
(01:00:15):
to be miserable all day, or likeI'm going to be sad and cry for
an hour and then, okay, let'sget back on track here.
Um, so, whether it's mantras orum affirmations, or I like right
now, my, my current morningroutine is I wake up, um, I'm
working with micro doses ofplant medicine, so I always do
(01:00:36):
like my own routine in regardsto that breath, work and just
prayer.
And then the first thing I putin my ear is a gratitude like
audio.
You know, I'm grateful for thismorning, for this breath, and
it gives you like a lot of likelittle micro things that you
don't think about being gratefulfor, like anything your breath
(01:00:58):
in the morning, the eyesight,like just even the tiniest
things that you wouldn't thinkto be grateful for.
And now, even if I don't putthe audio on, I wake up and I
say it in my mind Okay, I'mgrateful for this and this and
that, and it's automatic In mymind.
Okay, I'm grateful for this andthis and that, and it's
(01:01:19):
automatic.
So just try to find ways of.
And the moment I switched ofbeing grateful and surrendering,
my life started changing.
It happened just like that,like I shifted internally and
things outside started shifting.
So I think, gratitude andforgiveness, I'm 100% with that,
(01:01:41):
100%.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Gratitude is okay Everybody knows about that,
whether they practice it like wedo.
But forgiveness is not apopular subject.
It's not a popular topic.
But you said it before.
If you're are non-forgiving,you're ingesting poison and
(01:02:02):
expecting the other person todie.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen andyou know, non-forgiveness is the
biggest incidence.
Non-forgiveness is the biggestincidence.
You're in the medical field.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Biggest incidence of ill being dis-ease, my God.
Yes, to me, every dis-ease isrooted in an emotional state,
whether it was trauma that youwere not able to.
And also, to me, dis-ease even,whether it's mental, emotional,
physical, whatever.
Whatever it is your immunesystem, whatever it is, to me
(01:02:41):
it's just a coping mechanism.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
That is all.
It is A coping mechanism,whether it was to trauma you
were not able to process orexpress as a child, or needs or
wants that weren't met at thattime.
Maybe the master hierarchy ofneed was, you know, not stable
and you didn't have thenecessary needs at that time.
(01:03:06):
So to me, all of it is a copingmechanism to your environment
and to the stuff that happens tous in our life.
So we all do the best we canand we build these responses
whether it's bipolarschizophrenia, whatever, you're
just trying to cope with yourenvironment and the things that
are happening to you and you'rebuilding from there these
(01:03:29):
responses to be able to survivein the world.
So, but the roots are leftuntouched.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yes, you're band-aiding.
When you're doing that, it's aband-aid.
It's not attending whensomething is happening to you.
And I invite our listeners,when something is happening to
you, take a deep breath, do yourown breath work, take a deep
breath and say, okay, I, this iswhat I say.
(01:04:04):
I say how is this attending tothe agenda of my soul?
How?
And I can answer it.
I can do that, I can answer itand I am.
That got to me, got me frombeing a people pleaser, because
I was People pleaser, wanted todo everything the way everybody
(01:04:29):
in my family, in my circle ofinfluence, wanted me to do it.
No, I don't do that anymore.
Please me.
That doesn't mean I havedisregard for others.
I have enough regard for myselfIf I can treat myself that way.
(01:04:49):
You know, if you're in mysphere of influence and I'm in
your sphere of influence, you'regoing to be treated really well
by me Because I know how to doit.
I'm practicing every day onmyself.
So how does it attend to theagenda of one's soul?
Whatever you're going through,sometimes hard to answer, it's
(01:05:13):
not at all.
Well, what is my soul?
Do I have a soul?
Of course you have a soul.
That's the biggest part of you,your soul, is your heart space.
Imagine yourself without aheart.
You would not be alive if theheart wasn't beating.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
So let's be nice to our soul, the biggest of us.
I want to.
I want a parenthesis on there,if it's okay with you.
Sure, I feel like there's somuch disconnection from our soul
and from source withinourselves yes um, I think it
doesn't matter where in themultiverse, we're experiencing
(01:06:01):
life in the now moment, as oursoul, just like source itself,
it's fractaled into multitude ofexperiences on its own, and
this avatar being one of them,and all the distractions outside
(01:06:21):
of us, all the environment.
It is our responsibilitywhether it doesn't matter what
the agenda is, because I don'twant to go, I don't like going
into um, like theories and stufflike that um, but I still do
recognize there is a lot ofprogramming and agenda and
things that may not be servingus at this point, but ultimately
(01:06:45):
I do nothing with blaming themfor that which is also part of
us, just with a different levelof consciousness.
It's still not quite operatingfrom love.
What are?
What can we do about it?
What is the solution orientedthing that we can do here?
And it's really work ourselves,change ourselves, be the change
(01:07:09):
that we want to see in theworld.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That's it Again.
It's simple, it's basic.
It's not easy because we'vebeen practicing these bad habits
of not doing that and notattending to that agenda.
You know, I want to mentionsomething very important,
especially to us women.
I mean breast cancer is thereis incidence of breast cancer in
men as well.
(01:07:32):
However, incidence this was myhat really turned in 2005 to
become the alchemist and to dealwith the emotional and the
cognitive end of disease.
Because, being diagnosed withbreast cancer, I looked a little
closely into it After all, Iwas a psychotherapist.
I had that hat on at one point.
(01:07:52):
But, emotionally, the incidenceof breast cancer in women is
due to the fact that we cannotnourish and nurture ourselves.
We're good at it for everyoneelse.
That's people pleasing.
We go okay, we're good peoplepleasers.
We nourish and nurture others,nourish and nourish others.
(01:08:13):
What about us as women?
Again, you remove the matriarchfrom the family.
So a couple of those two thingsWomen aren't nourishing and
nurturing themselves.
They're people pleasing andthey become estranged in one way
or another.
(01:08:34):
You don't have many people arein different kinds of prisons
and you're removed.
Family is, for me, family isnot just blood, and I got a big
family.
Family is who do I sit down atthe table with?
That's family as well, and Ilove to cook, so you can imagine
(01:08:58):
that I like to sit down withothers.
So think about that.
As women, are you nourishingand nurturing yourself?
Do you please yourself at all?
It's like maybe that's whyyou're getting up in a grumpy
mood every morning.
You know, maybe that's whyyou're not Forgive yourself.
(01:09:21):
Forgive yourself for that.
I haven't been attending to theagenda of my soul.
It's time for me to start, andthis is how I'm going to start
Be gentle, be kind to yourself.
How do I fix my reflectionfirst, start with being gentle
and being kind to yourself.
How do I fix my reflectionfirst?
Start with being gentle andbeing kind to yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
You can be gentle and kind to others you know, I want
to share with you, if it's okay, uh, a map of consciousness
that came through, um for me,from my guides, um, because the
very last bit of of that isself-reflection.
So I think it goes right in,right in hand with um, with your
(01:10:06):
legacy, if you you want to callit that, and it's just
beautiful because it's aconfirmation.
Uh, I take everything asconfirmation on both ends and,
like this conversation you'vegiven me over, I don't know, I
can't even count, because almostevery sentence is a
confirmation.
So I'm just so honored.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I am honored.
I am honored that you canreceive this information.
I am honored.
I am honored that you canreceive this information.
I've had another person thatactually Noah referred me to be
on his show and oh, there wereso many, this got changed, that
got changed.
And he's saying, oh, I'm sosorry, I have to reschedule, and
(01:10:53):
I, no, no, fine.
And when we got togethertogether he said those words to
me.
I was not ready to receive youyet and that's why there was
this cancellation and everything.
And he had had some.
Um, his name is Maurice Filigreeand I'm his name of his podcast
is escaping me right now, buthe got very emotional in the
(01:11:18):
podcast and I mean it's out forthe world now, so I'm not saying
anything out of school, but andhe was talking about his trips
to the Middle East and a lot ofother stuff that like paralleled
my life.
He was an FBI agent Okay, getit, get where I'm going, and but
(01:11:45):
it was everything.
It was like again, who said Goddoesn't have a sense of humor,
but we just, you know it wasclicking.
And then, and I said, I saidI'm having so much trouble with
this decision, but you've helpedme with it, and I said I held
back because it had to do withgoing to Lebanon.
Those were his trips, whateverhe's doing there.
(01:12:07):
And I said would it help you ifI told you that I'm Lebanese?
I am.
He said yes.
Oh my God, oh my God, this isthat.
Because that's no accidents,coincidence or happenstance.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
No, Wow, no, wow.
I just, I literally feel somuch love in my heart right now,
so much healing, so much peace.
I will love for everyone thatis listening.
For the love of god, pleasereach out so that you can be in
(01:12:54):
Rhonda's program, please.
This is going to change herlife.
I'm serious.
She truly embodies, she'sauthentic, she is genuine, she's
loving.
I can, I can feel it and I youknow when we've been doing this
kind of work.
You can spot people in lessthan 60 seconds.
It's just energy speaks foritself.
(01:13:17):
Um, so open your your minds andyour hearts to trying something
different than everything elseyou've tried so far and just uh,
is it, um, how did?
Is it just a link that we canput in the description later, or
is it a call that they bookthrough to find out more?
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
We'll put the link in the description later.
We'll put that and my websiteis helpmerondanowcom.
Helpmerondanowcom, and peruseit.
There's lots of valuableinformation.
It's all free, other than ifyou take a course.
But that's the thing with me.
(01:14:05):
If I have something to leavelisteners and viewers with, it's
.
Number one you are not alone.
Reach out.
If you don't reach out to me,if you don't reach out to
Rosilia, reach out to someone.
And if you don't know who toreach out, to just listen,
(01:14:29):
listen to your heart and beaware that someone or something
will cross, and be aware thatsomeone or something will cross.
Don't worry about the how ofliving an empowered life.
The how is coming.
Just put it out there.
I want to live a better life.
Enough is enough.
I want to live a better lifeand listen, because the how the
people places, situations,circumstances, the resources
(01:14:51):
will come to you.
And number two, don't try andavoid it, because running from
anything remember wherever yougo you take yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And before we wrap this up, I want to say that
everything you've said soundsvery true to me, but this
particular one.
In my near-death experience Icouldn't run away from myself,
from my fears, from my guilt,from my own self-judgment.
(01:15:27):
You can travel the world, youcan die, and you're still.
You can't run.
So you might as well start nowcultivating that love for
yourself.
There's nowhere to go.
It doesn't matter if you commitsuicide.
You can't escape it, guys.
I hate to tell you frompersonal experience, it's still
(01:15:48):
going to haunt you.
I mean eventually, yeah, we gothrough different planes of
consciousness and eventually youknow you get into a certain
level of consciousness and backto source and and so on.
But you still have to gothrough that learning, whether
it's here or in a differentplane where you have to come to
that understanding of loving,accepting yourself, forgiving
(01:16:08):
yourself, not judging yourself,being compassionate with
yourself.
You might as well just starthere and start today and start
now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
This is your enough.
Take it.
It's a personal invitation,take it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Oh, that sounds beautiful.
To wrap it up, I don't know howyou feel about that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I do, but I have one thing to say.
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
One thing to say Ooh, God breath.
Yeah, you got to say it, Rhonda.
I invite our listeners and ourviewers to treat life as if it
were ice cream.
Enjoy it before it melts.
Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Thank you.
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