September 20, 2025 • 10 mins
The recent sports story surrounding Arch Manning reveals our society'd desire for shortcuts, and denial that Arch like most QB's needs playing time.
Our kids and we as parents have the same issue as the media had in this story. We want short cuts, we want the fun and we hate the grind of making kids practice the basics. We deny Thomas Aquinas ontological reality that God made us, God gave us our domains, and we learn over time.
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Ethan (00:02):
Raising joyful children in an angry world, a podcast
dedicated to faithful parentsnavigating their families
through a stormy culture
This is raising joyful childrenin an angry world.
I'm your host, Paul Osborne,Thomas Aquinas, and Arch
Manning.
What can the recent sportsstories surrounding Arch Manning
tell us about raising kids A.
(00:23):
When you line it up withAquinas, well, first this has
nothing to do with ArchManning's parents, really even
Arch Manning himself, butrather, why did the American
media that had watched countlessquarterbacks for decades develop
and improve through playingexperience, suddenly believe
that Arch Manning was exemptfrom the same experience that
(00:47):
they had observed hundreds andhundreds of times.
It was an historic denial ofreality.
Even the normally objective LasVegas betting area had wagering
as Arch Manning being thefavorite without much evidence.
Long time sports experts.
(01:07):
Paul Feba, the most popular.
Colin Cowherd with the herdjoined this chorus that said
something along the lines ofArch Manning will be the first
pick in the NFL.
Next year, he'll probably winthe Heisman and probably win a
national championship.
And the only voice was ArchManning's grandfather, who
(01:29):
suggested that his grandsonwould be playing two years or at
least another year of collegefootball in Texas.
The grandfather who had playedin the NFL may have known
something that the pundits andthe fans did not know.
He had also raised two sons thatplayed in the NFL as well, and
he was not in denial.
(01:49):
Of the learning curve, but thequestion is, why and what does
it tell us about ourselves andour kids?
Well, I wanna say to you thatyou know, when you look at
Aquinas, he talked about theontological order that God
created.
In other words, who we are inour domain, according to our
(02:11):
creator.
You, you read the scripture, ittakes time to plant seeds
carefully.
Over time, the seeds grow andproduce fruit.
This is the theme throughout thescriptures regarding God's
creation and including us, andit begins with the understanding
that we are not capable of doingeverything we want to do the way
(02:32):
we want to do them, but ratherwe are built.
By a God, by a creator, andthere are certain ontological
realities that we deal with.
You wanna learn to read, youwanna learn to do mathematics,
to gain any skill.
It comes over timeincrementally.
And this is the reality that Godmade us.
(02:52):
Now some do learn faster thanothers, but all of us learn and
grow over time.
We instead have taught ourselvesin this society that we can
determine our domain, we candetermine the speed and how
effectively we manage and masteranything.
It, you know, it, it's, it'sfunny now that the new version,
(03:15):
the new understanding of ArchManning is suggesting that he
has some sort of mental blockthat he eats one of these mind
power gurus, these modernmagicians, and one of them music
can actually change thisontological process.
It can change him into anathlete that can gain something
faster than anybody.
(03:36):
Has ever done before.
And what I wanna suggest to you,it is our sin nature.
We wanna learn fast and we asparents want our kids to learn
fast.
And it's why your son's footballcoach, when he's seven, has him
wearing a wristband with 25plays on it.
It's'cause we want instantsuccess.
(03:57):
The coach wants it, we want it.
And our kids are often beinggroomed and taught that this is
possible.
And the problem is.
We have to confront this.
This is, this is hard to kind oftalk about the reality of how we
do math and how we do readingand, and sadly, this philosophy
(04:19):
is even leaked into manyeducational institutions.
So math tables one plus one istwo, two plus one is three.
And learning all the.
The addition, subtraction,multiplication, and division
tables is often being removednow, you know,'cause it's not
fun and it's kind of boring andthere's shortcuts and AI's right
around the corner.
Things like phonics, vocabularywords in some schools have been
(04:43):
greatly diminished or evenremoved.
And so the question of reallyfor us is, well, what do we do
about it?
And I think we have to firststart with Genesis one, the
first book of the Bible.
This book, uh, tells us that Godcreated a.
The world right in thebeginning, God created the
(05:05):
Heaven and the Earth.
And I'll talk about anothersection of this, uh, down the
road.
But this book, this book ofGenesis, tells us about the four
relationships that we are inwithin the world.
There is God and his creation,God and humanity.
There is humanity and God'screation, and then humanity and
(05:25):
humanity.
And we have to understand thatGod took a universe out of chaos
and put it in order, and thenplaced us in it in a domain that
he gave us.
And he gives us some uniquedomains for each of us.
We're not all gonna play aquarter pack, but this is how
the world works because this isthe way that God made it.
(05:48):
Uh, it, it is what the Italianphrase, Che re.
At his pleasure that has to beunderstood and, and and taught
into our children.
And so, you know, we want ourkids to pay attention when we're
learning to read.
So we have to spend time readingwith them and they're gonna fuss
and they're gonna fidget, butwe've gotta just grind it out.
(06:11):
Uh, you want your kids to learnanything difficult, you're going
to have to have this genesismindset.
in the back of your head becauseyou're gonna have to battle
because your temptation is, as aparent, you're gonna want to
skip the, the line too.
You're gonna want to be at thatamusement park where you buy the
pass and you don't have to standin line.
But it doesn't work that way inlearning.
(06:33):
It is hard to make them sitstill.
It's hard to make them learn thescales over and over and over.
When learning to play aninstrument, it's hard to sit
down and master these basics andthese fundamentals because
they're not as much fun as goingto a little game, a little
(06:54):
league or football or flag whereeverybody cheers some play, and
we all have a big party.
So I want to say it starts forus is we have got to trust the
simple sentence.
In the beginning, God createdheaven and the earth.
Too many people no longerbelieve this, and they have
adopted theories of Big Bang,random chance math formulas with
(07:16):
no power, no.
Being at somehow this big,beautiful world that we live in
came into an existence out ofchance.
And this belief system is thenhow you then conclude, oh, my
child's a savant, or Thisperson's a savant, this rare
wise exception.
(07:36):
And I'm telling you that aplayer who comes, uh, from the
seed of NFL, this is what drovethis whole narrative that this
young man didn't have to gothrough the learning curve that
everybody else has to gothrough.
You've gotta start with Genesisnumber one, chapter one.
(07:58):
And learn that God is thecreator and teach your kids that
God made them.
And then you gotta understand acouple of verses out of Romans,
and it's really throughout thescripture.
I mean, look at any Bible storyand it is a long traveled road.
Romans, uh, chapter eight, uh,tells us that the whole creation
(08:20):
waits for the sons of God to berevealed.
Later in that chapter it says,not only so, but we ourselves
who have the first fruit of thespirits groan inwardly as we
wait eagerly for our adoption asson, the redemption of our
bodies.
(08:42):
You gotta go back to Genesisand, and to see what God is
saying about the process of ourhumanity.
And we've gotta go back to, uh,teachers like Aquinas and help
us understand rational capacityis something that has to develop
over time and, and go back tothe classics in which you build
(09:05):
the foundations being scales,timetables, vocabulary, phonics.
In which our kids have to gothrough those disciplines in
order to be able to gain thegreat success.
I, I, I share this story not somuch because it's uh, such a
sports story, but because Ithink it reflects a mindset.
Everybody wants to cut the line.
(09:26):
Our kids want to go fast and wewant them to go fast, and we
don't realize we're not doingthem a favor.
It, it's interesting.
In one Corinthians chapter one,verse 18, where Paul talks about
the word of the cross to thosethat are perishing, and we
(09:49):
translate it as foolishness, butit really would be more like
moronic Just like these experts,these pundits in sports, they
denied what they had observedtheir entire life because they
believed in a shortcut and togive up the hard toil.
Now you can hear them on adifferent day, they'll be giving
you a different story.
(10:09):
But I think it's critical to seethis is part of the nature of
our kids.
It's part of our nature, and wehave to commit to the grinding
out the unfun part of parenting.
Because as I probably havequoted too many times on this
podcast, Frederick Douglas saysit this way.
It's easier to raise a boy thanfix a man.
Paul (10:34):
The ultimate battle for the heart and soul is a fight
for identity.
Our king invites our kids toknow who they are, what to
believe, and where they belong.
Paul (2) (10:47):
Until next time, let's remember the words for theirs is
the Kingdom of Heaven.
Raising joyful children in an angry world, a podcast
dedicated to faithful parentsnavigating their families
through a stormy culture
This is raising joyful childrenin an angry world.
I'm your host, Paul Osborne,Thomas Aquinas, and Arch
Manning.
What can the recent sportsstories surrounding Arch Manning
tell us about raising kids A.
(00:23):
When you line it up withAquinas, well, first this has
nothing to do with ArchManning's parents, really even
Arch Manning himself, butrather, why did the American
media that had watched countlessquarterbacks for decades develop
and improve through playingexperience, suddenly believe
that Arch Manning was exemptfrom the same experience that
(00:47):
they had observed hundreds andhundreds of times.
It was an historic denial ofreality.
Even the normally objective LasVegas betting area had wagering
as Arch Manning being thefavorite without much evidence.
Long time sports experts.
(01:07):
Paul Feba, the most popular.
Colin Cowherd with the herdjoined this chorus that said
something along the lines ofArch Manning will be the first
pick in the NFL.
Next year, he'll probably winthe Heisman and probably win a
national championship.
And the only voice was ArchManning's grandfather, who
(01:29):
suggested that his grandsonwould be playing two years or at
least another year of collegefootball in Texas.
The grandfather who had playedin the NFL may have known
something that the pundits andthe fans did not know.
He had also raised two sons thatplayed in the NFL as well, and
he was not in denial.
(01:49):
Of the learning curve, but thequestion is, why and what does
it tell us about ourselves andour kids?
Well, I wanna say to you thatyou know, when you look at
Aquinas, he talked about theontological order that God
created.
In other words, who we are inour domain, according to our
(02:11):
creator.
You, you read the scripture, ittakes time to plant seeds
carefully.
Over time, the seeds grow andproduce fruit.
This is the theme throughout thescriptures regarding God's
creation and including us, andit begins with the understanding
that we are not capable of doingeverything we want to do the way
(02:32):
we want to do them, but ratherwe are built.
By a God, by a creator, andthere are certain ontological
realities that we deal with.
You wanna learn to read, youwanna learn to do mathematics,
to gain any skill.
It comes over timeincrementally.
And this is the reality that Godmade us.
(02:52):
Now some do learn faster thanothers, but all of us learn and
grow over time.
We instead have taught ourselvesin this society that we can
determine our domain, we candetermine the speed and how
effectively we manage and masteranything.
It, you know, it, it's, it'sfunny now that the new version,
(03:15):
the new understanding of ArchManning is suggesting that he
has some sort of mental blockthat he eats one of these mind
power gurus, these modernmagicians, and one of them music
can actually change thisontological process.
It can change him into anathlete that can gain something
faster than anybody.
(03:36):
Has ever done before.
And what I wanna suggest to you,it is our sin nature.
We wanna learn fast and we asparents want our kids to learn
fast.
And it's why your son's footballcoach, when he's seven, has him
wearing a wristband with 25plays on it.
It's'cause we want instantsuccess.
(03:57):
The coach wants it, we want it.
And our kids are often beinggroomed and taught that this is
possible.
And the problem is.
We have to confront this.
This is, this is hard to kind oftalk about the reality of how we
do math and how we do readingand, and sadly, this philosophy
(04:19):
is even leaked into manyeducational institutions.
So math tables one plus one istwo, two plus one is three.
And learning all the.
The addition, subtraction,multiplication, and division
tables is often being removednow, you know,'cause it's not
fun and it's kind of boring andthere's shortcuts and AI's right
around the corner.
Things like phonics, vocabularywords in some schools have been
(04:43):
greatly diminished or evenremoved.
And so the question of reallyfor us is, well, what do we do
about it?
And I think we have to firststart with Genesis one, the
first book of the Bible.
This book, uh, tells us that Godcreated a.
The world right in thebeginning, God created the
(05:05):
Heaven and the Earth.
And I'll talk about anothersection of this, uh, down the
road.
But this book, this book ofGenesis, tells us about the four
relationships that we are inwithin the world.
There is God and his creation,God and humanity.
There is humanity and God'screation, and then humanity and
(05:25):
humanity.
And we have to understand thatGod took a universe out of chaos
and put it in order, and thenplaced us in it in a domain that
he gave us.
And he gives us some uniquedomains for each of us.
We're not all gonna play aquarter pack, but this is how
the world works because this isthe way that God made it.
(05:48):
Uh, it, it is what the Italianphrase, Che re.
At his pleasure that has to beunderstood and, and and taught
into our children.
And so, you know, we want ourkids to pay attention when we're
learning to read.
So we have to spend time readingwith them and they're gonna fuss
and they're gonna fidget, butwe've gotta just grind it out.
(06:11):
Uh, you want your kids to learnanything difficult, you're going
to have to have this genesismindset.
in the back of your head becauseyou're gonna have to battle
because your temptation is, as aparent, you're gonna want to
skip the, the line too.
You're gonna want to be at thatamusement park where you buy the
pass and you don't have to standin line.
But it doesn't work that way inlearning.
(06:33):
It is hard to make them sitstill.
It's hard to make them learn thescales over and over and over.
When learning to play aninstrument, it's hard to sit
down and master these basics andthese fundamentals because
they're not as much fun as goingto a little game, a little
(06:54):
league or football or flag whereeverybody cheers some play, and
we all have a big party.
So I want to say it starts forus is we have got to trust the
simple sentence.
In the beginning, God createdheaven and the earth.
Too many people no longerbelieve this, and they have
adopted theories of Big Bang,random chance math formulas with
(07:16):
no power, no.
Being at somehow this big,beautiful world that we live in
came into an existence out ofchance.
And this belief system is thenhow you then conclude, oh, my
child's a savant, or Thisperson's a savant, this rare
wise exception.
(07:36):
And I'm telling you that aplayer who comes, uh, from the
seed of NFL, this is what drovethis whole narrative that this
young man didn't have to gothrough the learning curve that
everybody else has to gothrough.
You've gotta start with Genesisnumber one, chapter one.
(07:58):
And learn that God is thecreator and teach your kids that
God made them.
And then you gotta understand acouple of verses out of Romans,
and it's really throughout thescripture.
I mean, look at any Bible storyand it is a long traveled road.
Romans, uh, chapter eight, uh,tells us that the whole creation
(08:20):
waits for the sons of God to berevealed.
Later in that chapter it says,not only so, but we ourselves
who have the first fruit of thespirits groan inwardly as we
wait eagerly for our adoption asson, the redemption of our
bodies.
(08:42):
You gotta go back to Genesisand, and to see what God is
saying about the process of ourhumanity.
And we've gotta go back to, uh,teachers like Aquinas and help
us understand rational capacityis something that has to develop
over time and, and go back tothe classics in which you build
(09:05):
the foundations being scales,timetables, vocabulary, phonics.
In which our kids have to gothrough those disciplines in
order to be able to gain thegreat success.
I, I, I share this story not somuch because it's uh, such a
sports story, but because Ithink it reflects a mindset.
Everybody wants to cut the line.
(09:26):
Our kids want to go fast and wewant them to go fast, and we
don't realize we're not doingthem a favor.
It, it's interesting.
In one Corinthians chapter one,verse 18, where Paul talks about
the word of the cross to thosethat are perishing, and we
(09:49):
translate it as foolishness, butit really would be more like
moronic Just like these experts,these pundits in sports, they
denied what they had observedtheir entire life because they
believed in a shortcut and togive up the hard toil.
Now you can hear them on adifferent day, they'll be giving
you a different story.
(10:09):
But I think it's critical to seethis is part of the nature of
our kids.
It's part of our nature, and wehave to commit to the grinding
out the unfun part of parenting.
Because as I probably havequoted too many times on this
podcast, Frederick Douglas saysit this way.
It's easier to raise a boy thanfix a man.
Paul (10:34):
The ultimate battle for the heart and soul is a fight
for identity.
Our king invites our kids toknow who they are, what to
believe, and where they belong.
Paul (2) (10:47):
Until next time, let's remember the words for theirs is
the Kingdom of Heaven.
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