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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk Pets Rapaport to
the Rescue with award winning animal advocate, best selling author,
journalist and pet product creator Jill Rappaport. Hi, Welcome to
Rapaport to the Rescue.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm Joe Rappaport, coming to you live from East Hampton.
I am so excited we are at Bookhampton with the
one the oply Uptown girl, Christie Brinkway coming here tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
There's so many familiar faces in the audience and I'm
just so, you know, thrilled that you're all here, so
including your children. Joh wanted to be here but his
flight got canceled in La So but yeah, lexas in
the back there. And also I should point out that
when you read the book, you'll see there are a
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couple times in my life where my friends, Oh I'm
gonna choke myself up right from the very good go.
But I have three friends that are in the room
with me tonight that we're there for me. I am
one of them, right, Please you stand up and Lisa
and Jill you'll read about them in the book. But
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they help me get through some of the heart hits times.
The Flucky One we sure are. We have been through
everything and what a wild, wonderful ride. Yeah, to be
your friend. You're going to get me to choked up.
And you know they say the best things in life
are worth waiting for. And when you did the massive
book tour, I'm like, when is it my turn? But
guess what, I think I am the luckiest person now
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because this is the book of the summer. And when
you were getting ready to embark on the book tour,
I was speaking to you after every interview, Before each interview,
you were nervous, trepidacious, like will people buy it? You
didn't know? Yeah, that right? You know. The whole time,
I thought, oh, I've got everybody's always said to me
when I tell a story, I'll go, You've got to
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write a book. You've just got to write a book.
So I wrote a book. And then the week before
it was going to come out, I thought, boy, I
have some nerve thinking that I write a book and
people are going to want to hear about it. And
I thought I could picture the stacks just sitting there
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with you know, not moving, and so I was so pleased.
I was beyond excited when it actually ended up on
the New York Times Bestsellers List and International best Seller's List. Yes,
that is such an accomplishment when you consider all of
the books set up there, all of the memoirs, the
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celebrity memoirs, and yours is the one that everybody is
talking about. Oh thanks well, and it's also being translated
into Finnish. So all twelve of the people in flin
and buy my book, you know. Being one of your
closest friends, I literally watched every interview you did, and
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I would watch and I would listen to the questions you.
I'm a journalist and reporter, a little competitive, right, and
I remember thinking a lot of the line of questioning
was very similar. They wanted to go down the same
road on the same topics. But your book is filled
with so many incredible, juicy stories. What stories are What
one or two stories did they not ask you about
that you would love to tell this wonderful audience about.
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Oh my gosh, my parlicheer, Lisa Sharky said to me,
I said, oh, I forgot. There was this time that,
oh my gosh, my whole family was on this sailboat
and this storm came up and we had to go
to sea and there were eighty foot waves and we
were tossing and turning in the refrigerator broke lis from
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the wall and it was like it started a fire
on the boat and we couldn't barely move. We had
to hold onto the furnit. She said, enough death defying
the stories. We don't have enough pages, we don't have
enough room. So I have to say, there's still so
many stories to be told. I hope that the ones
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that I did tell are you know, ones that you're
interested in so well. And also you talk about so
many stories you didn't get to tell. So should we
assume there's going to be a sequel to the memoir? Well,
you never know. I am working on ensuring that my
second act is as good, if not better than the first.
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I'm watching I'm flipping the channels the other night, and
I see a gossip a former gossip reporter from page
six on one of the cable shows, and what is
her big scoop? You talking about how you have the
book of the Summer, the hottest book, and that you
are fielding offers right and left, and that you are
the golden girl. Can you break any news here or
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anything you care to share? What's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Not yet.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Can we assume that this book has legs? Like you, I,
you know, it's just still premature, but I have had interests,
and so we'll see what happens. This is so great and
so well deserved. And you know, literally the message throughout
the whole book is glass half full. And I always
say to people what is it like when they always
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ask me what's it like to be such close friends
with her? And I said, Okay, picture yourself and I'm
afraid of everything, right, picture yourself on the wildest roller
coaster ride, okay, having just ingested laughing gas while eating
the most delicious bowl of ice cream, dairy free. And
that's what it's like being her friend. If you never
go where you're going to end up with, boy, do
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you laugh and you're riding by the seat of your pants.
It really is an incredible ride with you, and you
always have the glass half bull. You live by my
three favorite words liblov laugh, definitely, Definitely, I mean life short.
You've got to live it up, you know, you've got
to live each day as the gift that it is.
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And I hope you know my book I deliberately didn't
want it to be preachy or how to or anything
like that. I just hoped that after reading it, my
readers would be inspired to write your own script, baby,
and make it a good one. And that was you
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say to me, yeah, baby, write your own script. And
it is true. We do have a blank page every
morning that we wake up. We've got this beautiful gift
of a day. And what are we going to do
with it? It's ours? Now we talk about writing your
own script. And even if that script gets rejected, torn up,
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spit out, you start all over again. You've been there.
Oh yeah, yes, for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The book is called Uptown Girl. But the song you
gotta pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all
over again. And the thing that has always amazed me
about you is you look at any challenge as the
greatest gift in the world. Nothing scares you. You're like, bring
it on, let me do it.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't like going to the dentist. I mean work
challenges like Broadway. You know when that came into your
life that, Oh, I tell you, I could not believe
my luck. I could not to this day, I can't believe.
I have to pinch myself to this day and go,
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you dick, that you actually did it. I thought my
story was going to be to tell my little grandchild,
come over here, sit on grandma's knee. I'm gonna tell
me about the day I actually have a nerder to
go out and audition for a Broadway play, and that
was to be my story. And I auditioned and I
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cut the pot. So then I had the dilemma like,
oh my god, I got the part. I don't know
that I can actually even do that. I don't act,
I don't sing, I don't dance, and they're like, leave
it to us, we'll have you doing all three. And
sometimes you just have to say yes to adventure. And
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I am so glad that I said yes because those
were the greatest years. I absolutely loved every second of it,
so amazing. Here's Sarah Tolan. Sarah helped me write this book.
She is incredible. I just have to say sorry to
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go off topic. That's okay, but we'll read a little
bit about Chicago in the book. But I just want
to talk about Sarah for a second because she was
so incredible to work with. I started the book with
another writer, and he was, you know, like a DP
Notch Award winning, you know, always on the New York
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Times bestseller list, et cetera, et cetera. And every story
he would explain away the magic, and I would like,
I don't want to see the backstage, are you? I
just want the magic to exist. There's magic everywhere in life.
There's magic, and let's not take that away. Let's and
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Sarah understood immediately, like Sarah got it. And it was like,
as Joni Mitchell says, and you know, two heads are
better than by writing a memoir. You know, you've I've
heard these celebrities and barber stories and said it took
five years out of her life. It really does take
not only so much time, but the emotional to relive.
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And for you, you've had a lot of experiences that
broke your heart in many pieces, and you go over
it again and to remind yourself bit by bit to
put it in print. I don't know if you can
use the word cathartic maybe for some stories, but really heartbreaking. Yeah,
I mean I think there were certain chapters that like,
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there was one chapter of my life that was so
terrible I actually, after living it, I had it transcribed
so that then I could block it out of my mind.
But in case my son ever wanted to hear about
that phase of my life, I would have it all
fresh and in a transcript. And so that's what I did,
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and the transcripts about this thick. And I go here, Sarah,
for our listeners, that's about twelve inches. Yes, I I
hate it, like this, bigger than the biggest phone book
that remember those things. Yeah, we weren't around for those, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And I go here, I don't want anything to do
with this. It's all there. And she looked at it
and she's like, oh no, no, that's not happening. That
is not happening. You know, you were so ahead of
your time because you were the original selfie person. You
were taking videos and pictures, and you kept everything of
your life, of your children's lives, and if you weren't
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photographing it or videotaping it, you were drawing it, drawing it,
writing it. I mean, thank Heavens for those journals, because
you know, I started sort of looking through my journals
and going, oh, that's kind of a good story. Okay,
wait a minute, I did that. Oh, let me read further.
And then sometimes I'd read that and I would think
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what was I thinking? What was I thinking? But like
you know, Sarah would we would then go over it
and what were you thinking? Let's find out what you
were thinking? Because there are some parts of my life
that just reading the journal, I was like, wow, I
can't believe that that. Yes, yes, and it's a twaw.
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You don't hold back. You can't hold back in a memoir.
You know, you owe it to the reader's, your fans.
You got to be who you are and tell the truth. Yeah,
your life, you know, with all the beauty you've had,
the good, the bad, and the ugly. Yeah, and you
have to put it all in there. You're literally the
unsinkable Molly Brown.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh, I'm really dating myself now. But the title, Oh
when I heard it, what did I say to you?
Brilliant uptown girl, couldn't have been more perfect? There you go.
I'm gonna also veer over to say Lisa Sharky is
responsible for this book even existing because I had decided
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I sort of started and then I thought, you know what,
they don't need another memoir out there. I'm just not
going to do it. And I said, okay, thanks everybody
for your time. But I'm I'm not gonna do it.
I've decided against it, and I get a letter from
Lisa Sharky that was so amazing, so flattering. For one,
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I was like, oh, oh, that's what she thinks about me.
Maybe I do read your bibook. But she had all
these reasons that I really need to do this, and
she convinced me. And my first thought was, well, if
you'll help me write it, and she's like, no, I can't,
I can't, but You've got to do this. I've known
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Lisa for decades. We worked together a Channel two News
and Lisa's a tough cookie. There's no you know. If
she doesn't like some you're going to hear about it,
trust me. So going to the title Uptown Girl, and
you know, Chrissy, I don't know what it is about you.
You have the best damn timing in the world. Here
you come out with this book New York Times Bestseller,
international bestseller, the Book of the Summer, and what comes
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out the Billy Joel documentary, and so it goes, thank you, Billy.
And that's why I was so thrilled to interview you
now because I have seen this documentary. I'm not kidding
you maybe fifteen times. It is. I think it's the
best documentary ever die, ever ever done ever. Yeah, Like
it really is amazing, And that's largely impart. Let'son iron it.
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I'm kidding it. It is. I mean, we are in it.
But it's a story and the telling of it and
the weaving together of I mean, Susan Lacy is brilliant
and she really wove together a complicated tale with stories
intersecting and mingling and moving. That is moving. I mean
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you will laugh, you'll cry, You'll want to get the album,
you know, play it. It's really something. And I actually
had the pleasure watching for the first time. I had
Christy on my left and Alexa on my right. It
was so emotional because Billy's life and your impact on
him and Alexa and how much you know he loves
his children and you know it's a sign of Billy.
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There was so much you think, you know, oh, and
I thought, wow, in his life and you were so unbelievable.
And I have to say the period in the documentary
when he was with you and showing your life together,
didn't you all feel this? He had such joy and
fun with Christy, right right, and there was such an uplift.
It's like you were the high for him and watching you,
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and that's when I met you, and that we're gonna
eventually get to the animals because my show is about animals.
But I met Christy and Billy in the eighties. Alexa
was in diapers. She was my first national big TV
spook People magazine on TV on CBS, and I went
to their house in East Hampton and I walk in,
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alexis running around, and Christie's there so blindingly beautiful, and
then she says, now we do this great interview. We're
walking around. You referred to your East Hampton house. Billy
called it the Beast in the East. Basically, the house
never was finished. It is like one of those worst
case scenarios that it was under construction year after a year.
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At first, I was like, well, the baby's done, and
you know, I'd love to be in the house for
the baby and Dennis, I'd love to be in for
her first birthday party. Do you think we could do
her fifth birthday police in the house. I think it
went on like that. It was, and Alexa, you were
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so unbelievable in your diaper, singing all the words to
we didn't start the fire. And you know, I mean
I know the one line. Like most people, she's like
on and on looking up this good.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I heard winch Jo DIEI yo.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's how she said. You know, I'd been interviewing celebrities
for decades, and what really solidified our relationship. We started
talking about animals and we're like the frustrated cowgirls. We
love our horses and our dogs. And she said, you
know what, let's get on horseback. I'm going to take
you to two trees. Let's go riding for the And
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I have horses, so I know how to ride, not
like her. So we get in to two trees and
she had a beautiful gray mare named Bell Star, and
she miraculously comes up with another beautiful gray mare. You'll
have to see the video. It's amazing. They're like doubles
and the Malibu model, the beauty the blonde hair, she's
galloping along and the nice Jewish girl from Michigan with
the frizzy hair is following, and I'm galloping along during hey,
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and we literally bonded over our love of animals, especially horses.
And now there isn't a day that goes by that
we don't talk about what's going on with the horses
and the plight of the mustangs and the wild West.
It keeps me up all night, and I know it
does for you as well. Well, Yeah, we got to
save the wild horses. You know, they're all being rounded
up and many of them are dying. And just watch
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on my Instagram in stories, there'll be action items in
there so that we can all help save them. And
they are the wild West, you know, when you read
the book, you'll see this real affinity for the wild West.
She's a cutting champion, which you'll get into in a minute,
talk about that. Yeah, and so the wild horses really
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do a pemize the wild West in just all of
their majesty and their you know, wildness, and they're losing
their land, these mustangs and the burrows, they literally nowhere
to go. Really tragic. So keep your eye because there's
places to sign and that is making a difference. So
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I'll keep posting, keep signing, and together we'll make a difference.
And let's talk about your love of horses, because when
I met you, you were already on horseback and she
has a cutting champion. Do you want to talk about
a daredevils. Someone taking your life in your hands, take
it away. Well, I was actually looking at TV one night,
just spinning around, and suddenly I see this horse that's
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like scraping its belly down on the on the ground.
This two front legs are like and it's leaping back
and forth, and the cowboys just sitting there on top,
not moving at all, just like, how is the horse
doing this? How is this happening? Is what is this?
So I'm watching this, I cannot, for the life of
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me imagine what's going on. And then it says, get
the cutting horse tape, and so I grabbed a pin,
I wrote it down. I got the cutting horse tape.
And also they were selling a fake cow. I bought
the fake cow and the tape, and I went back
to my friends out in Montalk and they're like, oh, yeah,
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they used to do cutting horse riding, you know, so
many years ago out here. We watched the tape, we
started doing the fake cow. You put two bicycles on
each side of the corral and you pedal the cow
back and forth and you train your horse onto this cow.
So we're doing that and we decide okay, So in
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a calm petition for cutting horse riding originated with the
cowboys when they needed to cut like a sick cow
away from the herd or remove the bull so that
they could work with the herd. And they all started
going about arc move that bull away from a herd
faster than you can and it's like, oh yeah, it's
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a bit and then they go out there and they
try to see who could do it the fastest. So now,
in competition form, you go into this arena and you
have a herd of cattle in front of you, brush
cattle that had never seen horses. So when you come
in in your horse, you've got your reins up in
the air. You're eyeing the cattle and you're looking to
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see which one you want to cut away from the herd.
Once you determine that, you put your hand down and
now you can't move. Any movement that the judges detect
will subtract from your score, and your horse is going
to go to work jumping from side to side. They say,
it's the most exciting two minutes that you can have
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on a horse, and I tell you it really is.
And then you got to get off. You got to
quit that cow before the cow quits you or runs
into you or whatever. The way the cowboys put it is,
if you see shit, quit so because when they turn
their tail on you, that means they're about to bolt.
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So that's kind of cutting horse in a nutshell. And
we decide we're gonna rint a herd of caple and
we're gonna have a real life cutting horse competition in Montalk.
That was my phocus shoot for people we know horses
say lot my book We Got You with a Lot
of the Cow was unbelievable. It was so incredible, It
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was so much fun. We got judges from Montana and
judges from Texas. People came from all over to be,
you know, in the show, and oh, it was so
much fun. And one of the guys there goes Christy,
you got to come down to Texas and compete in
the National Coninghoorse Association for Dirty Championships, And I said, oh,
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I would love to.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And he told me about it and she's wearing the
buckle cutting champion. So I went and I was representing
all the New York City Phillies up here, and so
I really thought, Okay, I gotta like do this right,
you know, and they hooked me up with a trainer
named Punk Carter and Punk had great horses and he
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was a great trainer and he trained me to do it.
And I went in and the first year I came
in third or fourth place. The second year I came
back and I won. And I have two belt buckles
and I have worked them into every outfit. I'm super
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Hi's Ralph Lauren hasn't copied that put it into his line.
It's well abulous. I do have some belts similar in
my line Tower Hill, Lagging Away Available and Agescent. But
it is amazing And just another side note. Christy asked
me if I could keep her horse for a couple
of weeks. They were renovating the barn in Montalk. I
said sure, we had the extra stalls and she said,
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you should get on good bar. She's so much fun. Dumby.
I get on the horse. I accidentally sneezed and the horse.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Was on her knees. If you make one of the
horse was on the knees, I said, I am gonna
freaking kill her. It is the scariest thing because they
move like in a you know, in a manner of seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's what I mean by the dearedevil. You know, nothing
seems to frighten you when it comes to that stuff.
You know what, Jill that the first time that I
did that National Cutting Horse Association for Dirty Championships, she's
got that title that right. My mouth went completely dry
because I was so nervous. I thought I was kind
of like choke like I was out there the mouth
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sticking together. I bitch, do you take me your life
in your hands? Literally? Well, I just didn't want to
embarrass New York. That's what she's worried about. Embarrassing New York.
I'd worry, like, am I going to be here tomorrow? Right?
But besides the horses which have been such a part
of both of our lives are dogs, and I'm so
happy to say that well half of mine here are
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in heaven sadly, but I had two new rescues, and
Christie's dog, Chester, who's sixteen years young. I was able
to get him from a wonderful shelter. And our dogs
have given us so much joy. And I know Sailor
has a beautiful rescue in Max has a beautiful dog,
and Alexa has her cat Stella, that is her child.
I mean, your whole family, all of you have embraced
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rescue and adoption and understanding the need and the importance
to do so. Oh absolutely. You know, we think that
we're rescuing them, but they're there for us. They're thinking
thin and their unconditional love is just the sweetest thing
in the world. So yes, definitely, Yeah, they never look
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at it. It's like, oh, bad hair day. And I
was just reading that there are more dogs available for
adoption right now than any other point in history. Yeah,
the worst it's ever been.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
No, the shelter system they can't even take them in anymore.
So you know what's going to happen, and it's truly
dire and what people don't understand. I'm all about the underdogs,
the seniors, the bully breeze, and the special needs. So
I try to encourage people to not you know, puppies
aren't great. Please go a little older. Maybe take a
blind dog or a three legged dog. I have a
fourteen year old blind deaf one I just rescued Nathan Detroit.
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Mindy helped me with that name, and he's the love
of my life. I feel like I've had him since
he came out of his mother's womb and he's like
Dorian Gray, he's aging backwards. So and I know with Chester,
I was just over your house Chester sixteen. He's running around.
He as an appetite, like forget about it, and he's
been your comfort for so many years. I mean, they
all make such a big deal when you come home,
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you feel like great to be home. And I have
a kind of a joke with Christy say, after everything
we've been through a few marriages, a few divorces, I
think it's safe to say that the only males we
want in our bed should have fore legs and.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Not too right for our listeners. Christy's wavering on that.
So you're very open to love still, Yeah, you have
to be Love makes the world go round, you know,
and you've gone around, So that's what I mean. It's
like the half full.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
You don't let anything you've been through hold you back
from doing it again or trying to have that experience again.
How would you put why would you like limit yourself
in any way?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I like being open to a whole world of possibility.
You know, never say never. You really are always looking
at everything in the brightest way possible, and you never stop. Well,
I call my blessings. I feel very, very lucky to
every time I've ever had a job, I feel like, wow,
I'm so lucky somebody else wants me. You know, I've
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always felt like each job was going to be the
last one. And it's kind of a good way because
then you always want to give your best and give
your all, and you know, in case that is the
last one that you do. So and I look at you,
like for you, I think you look at it. If
you retire, you explire, it's like no retiring for you.
I mean no, I love what I do. I love
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meeting people like this is so fun. I've enjoyed talking
with so many of you already earlier. And I love this.
I love all the opportunities. I mean, modeling is a
really I think it's a really amazing gid because you
can do so much. You know, I've written books. It's
allowed me to dabble, you know, I've done a couple movies.
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I got to do Broadway. I have even gotten to
use my platform for things that I believe in. And
as a result, I became the to get from the
first Congressional District of New York and went to the
conventions and stumped with some of the politicians that I
believe in because I care deeply about the environment, so
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I always choose politicians who will protect my children's future,
and I want them to inherit clean air, clean water,
trees and a beautiful, healthy planet. So I feel very,
very privileged to be able to give back in that way.
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You walk the talk every day of your life, and
you know you just ran through a myriad of everything
you've done in your career, and it's almost like, is
there even a question here to say, what have you
not done that you want to do a vacation? You
haven't come out with an album yet. I think maybe
you know you're saying on Broadway, but I'm looking at
Alexa now. Yeah, and by the way, Alexa has a
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new song. Alexa, just come up here. As we're getting
ready to wrap the show, we have to talk about that.
It is the summer of this family, right.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Thank you guys, Riversideway go follow my Instagram Autles raviol
Sorry couldn't fly.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
We want the apslog and as we sign out, feel
free to sing us out what do you want me
to see? Whatever you want? I think we'd all love
something right? Should we do it?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Group song? So just smile when your heart is aching,
smile just like my mom mesito, We'll find a way somehow.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
What of yous all know to end up until the
stake and was smiling and my mom, oh, the most
the ray of sunshine. We watched the documentary.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
And you know my dad, who takes a bit of
a darker turn, more of an introvert like me, tortured
artists so complex met He said, life is life is
like a Greek tragedy.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Remember what you said?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
That all of his eve been through fory a lot too.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
He's very rather resilient. And Mom turned to me and
she said.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
No, life is like a musical. I said no, you
know I always saw sort of sort is life for musical?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Or read?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That is the best note to end on. Has this
been great a lot? I want to thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
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Rap Report to the Rescue and don't forget to get Christy's.
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