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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, my voice is inadequate. My efforts today.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Are inadequate, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Every law passed before the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights
Act should be presumptively unconstitutional. So why should I give
about some law that some old white man passed in
the nineteen twenties, like the Immigration in Nationality Act?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show, how strange was it? And
he even said it he was inadequate. He spoke for
twenty five hours to break Stean Thurman's filibuster record, and
Corey Booker said less in twenty five hours than is
it Eli? I can't always can't remember how to say
his name.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I say Ellie, miss Stall, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I know it's miss Stall, but I don't know Ellie.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Or is it Elie.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I always see his name at the on the crawler
or the in the credit screen when he's on MSNBC,
and I though he's always going to say something to
make me laugh out loud. So yesterday we we learned
in a probably a twelve minute interview on the view,
more than we learned in twenty four out well, we
learned a lot in twenty five hours with Corey Booker,
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What did you learn? We learned that he is four.
He's for due process for global citizens. That was actually
emphasized and re emphasized by Raskin yesterday. He wants to
bring all those Venezuelan now incarcerated Venezuelan gang members back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It reminded me of the final scene of trading places,
like where the two brothers have gone bankrupt. In the
one bankrupt, He's like, get those machines back in here,
turn the mark on, get those gang bankers back in here.
We need their votes.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So we learned that. We also learned that Donald Trump
lying to the American people because he's taking away and
today we've got a big Supreme Court ruling coming now
actually the first of several days. I'm sure of the
hearing that Donald Trump is going to take away your
Medicare and Medicaid, and he's going to take away your
Social Security. He went big on that, and then he
(02:03):
called Donald Trump a liar about one hundred times while
telling you things that were totally untrue.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now that's the whole thing. He's a showman, not a
good one, but he's a showman, and I think that
the Republicans could learn something possibly about showmanship from the Democrats,
because that did move the needle. Not a lot, but
it did move the needle because there are a bunch
of people who are I would say, politically, what's the word.
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They don't follow politics, but they see a man crying
on television saying I am not gonna let them take
medicaid from the people who needed most, and we're not
gonna shut down the VA. I refuse to allow the
VA to be shut down. These veterans desperately need this help.
And they're like, wait a minute, what the what is happening?
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I mean, we could do the same thing to them.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You then he got a little bit of he got
a little bit over to the preacher lane.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So dear God, if you've ever loved America, please love
us now. We need your love.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Dear God, your only hope. The obi wan Kenobia the
Democrat Party. Yes, not the same guy we heard sing
about during the Bernie Sanders rally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, No, that that God, I don't don't want would
google that?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Do not google singer Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Trans singer performs rape song to start Bernie Sanders rally.
Who he thanked for it. He was not offended by that.
He thought it was a great song. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He spent twenty five hours telling you that Donald Trump
was a liar because he was going to take away
your Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So he's a liar because he's he claims, he's he
claims he's not.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes, that Elion must says he's trying to save Social Security,
So he's a liar. Yes. What what Corey wants you
to know is he's going to save it by making
sure the people who paid into it are not going
to get anything out of it. Okay, all right, so
good luck sell him that one. Although you spend a
lot of time, didn't quite close the deal. Get back
out there and close the deal. Well he I mean,
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mister Smith goes to Washington, so when.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
We you know, I was telling you about this clip
that CNN had yesterday, which was I should look that
up again because that was crazy. This guy. I don't
know who the guy was. That's what I would like
to know. The guy on CNN who was talking about
the Democrats' approval ratings are in a free fall. They're
at an all time low right now, and the guy
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who is delivering the news. Now, he may have been
interpreting this, but it seemed like he had some inside
data that he just didn't have on the screen. And
he was saying that even amongst Democrats, so I am
a not only a registered Democrat voter. I voted in
the last election, So you had to have voted in
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the last election. They are underwater with Democrats who their
approval ratings and what the polling shows apparently, according to
this was they do not want compromise them. Now, he
said in a fight. He said, if you compare that
to the twenty eighteen polling, the Democrats of twenty eighteen
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during the first Trump administration said we have to keep
the government moving forward, make compromises where possible. That that
was the attitude of the twenty eighteen one keep the
government open. Yeah, that is not the mood of the
current Democrat according to this guy on CNN yesterday who
was screaming, they want you to fight them every step
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of the way. They want you to shut the government down,
like that's why they're against Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer had
an opportunity to shut it down and he didn't do it.
He's blinked. You blinked, Chuck. We wanted the government shut
down because this is not our government, this is Trump's government.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Shut it down.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's the way they're reading the data.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And what do they have to lose? Because we're already
shutting down Social Security, the VA, Medicare, Medicaid, we're shutting
it all down anyway, So why not go ahead and
shut everything down? And it needs the park system.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So if you have that attitude, Corey Booker basically shutting
down the government for twenty five hours yesterday in order
to sell the lie that they believe that would certainly
make hay for them. They would like that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I will give him credit for this. He knows that
Bernie's out there fighting, but Bernie's known socialist. He knows
that Jasmine Crockett's out there fighting, but her mouth's getting
out of control and she's not doing it the right way.
He goes out, as Kelly says, and performs, wearing a
very conservative outfit. He looked very statesmanlike. Yes, he was
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emotionally attached. He relayed to the world what his constituency
was saying. He read a letter from a woman who
was diagnosed with Parkinson's. I didn't realize that Corey Booker's
father had actually been diagnosed and then died from Parkinson's.
I wouldn't wish that on anybody, and I'm sorry to
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hear that his family had to go through. That's already
hear about this woman. But because Trump is going to
shut down Medicare and because he's going to shut down
Social Security, she is going to now have absolutely no
help from the government that she has supported all of
her working life.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, he was about if he'd given himself another hour,
he would have claimed that Donald Trump would now put
you down. Donald Trump will put a bullet in your
head once you get some sort of diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Thankfully, he didn't have to go that far to get
to the twenty five hours. So he'd claimed the new
record and be the longest filibuster. All right, So we
got that going on, and then we mentioned Jamie Raskin.
He's demanding we bring back the prisoners. Well in the
demand they move in with you.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
In your opener, you used Ellie Mestahal and Ellie looking
like one of the founding fathers in his powdered wig.
He's there talking about it's unconstitutional any law that was
passed pre nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Because we were living in on the part that state. You
got to use that word because of Elon Musk's heritage.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But a quick, quick question, wouldn't the Constitution then be unconstitutional?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You can't even use the word unconstitutional to describe what
you're trying to describe because the Constitution never existed as
the way you described it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, so his whole line of reason, do you like
the Constitution that was written by old white men? Now,
apparently I looked him. I looked him up on Wikipedia,
they said. In a March twenty twenty two interview, Ali
miss Stahle says, the United States Constitution quote is actually trash.
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So if it's unconstitutional, wouldn't that be a good thing?
If the Constitution is actually trashed. We act like this
thing was etched in stone by the finger of God,
but it was actually rolled out over a couple of
hot weeks in Philadelphia and the summer of eighteen eighty
seven by a bunch of rich white politicians who just
wanted to get the hell out of Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I never read the part where they just wanted to
get the hell out of Philadelphia. He must have had
some personal ridings.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They figured, look, somebody will clean this up. Maybe there'll
be some guy in a powdered wig. Hey, we'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Let's go what you got and make amendments possible. Let's
move along. Then they can change it as they want.
Let's get the hell out of Philadelphia. The damn what
was it that was driving the nuts when they were
riding it. It was the clacking of the horseshoes on
the cobblestone streets.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I would also imagine that horse maneure.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They actually had sent out people to put straw down
on the road so they would not hear the constant
clacking of horses. And for those of you who may
if I remember that correctly from Mike fifth grade history.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
If there's some of you who might find yourself agreeing
with Ellie Mistal that the any law passed before nineteen
sixty five is unconstitutional because we were living in an
apartheid state, because blacks did not have the right to vote,
I would refer you to the fifteenth Amendment and ask
mister Mustaal to read what was in the fifteenth Amendment,
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which was passed in eighteen sixty nine. So I don't
know if mister mustal understands how to read amendments, or
if he could even look at history and realize that
under his premise, it was all whites that were electing
black members of Congress back in the late eighteen hundreds.
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Is that who did it? Or were there blacks voting?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There were? The fifteenth Amendment gives rights to the blacks
to vote. Oh my gosh, so they had the right
to vote for one hundred years before eighteen six or
before nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Look, he's the lawsuit graduate from Harvard. He didn't say
constitutional law. It just says law school.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's very it's just very frustrating that Democrats just because
to your point, he knows better. Yes, Mestelee's not a
moron of us. It's that you don't get through the
Harvard law school without understanding, but you then manipulate the
truth in a way to try to make it some
sort of narrative where it looks like America till nineteen
sixty five was just this racist. It was racist in
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the sense that if you want to look at the
Deep South, in particular where we live in South Carolina,
who is destroying it? Democrats? The Democrat party, the founders
of the KKK, the original Jim crow Law folks.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's why. That's why when I can't remember if it
was a Gavin Newsom, I forgot. One of the Democrats
was saying, we really just need to scrap the whole thing,
and but they were pushback, you can't. We're not going
to create a new party. And you know, something that
would have been the best advice you could have gotten,
created to get away from your heritage of your Democrat
party because it ain't pretty.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Whatever the Whigs did, they didn't want to come back.
Somebody said, rebrand it. I don't know what they are now.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We are literally, I think only weeks away. I was
going to say days. But he's gonna book himself in.
You go see a lot of mister ms Stahl on
MSNBC now because he's become like the Golden child with
his where he cursed on ABC TV. Did they edit it?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think he self edited it. He said, why the
would I give a.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I think you're literally weeks away from his announcement
to run for the Senate. He's not going to go
for a house seat. I don't even know where he's from,
but he's going to take on somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Could he run for Senate? I mean, like, who's I'm
just thinking where does he live? I'm assuming he lives
in d C. Right, I mean, this guy is the
when I picture in my mind a swamp creature like
his face and fat butt would be in my mind
like somebody who's just gording self off the American taxpayer.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Well, I don't know, maybe in the culture personality that
they constantly preach to us about, then we should just
make for he's just going to make a presidential run.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm wondering where he lives. That's a good question. Now
he's from originally, I'm guessing from New York because I
know that they If you go to his Wikipedia page,
it says that his father was elected to the Suffolk
County Legislature and a very influential political operative whose career
ended with a fine after being found guilty for violating
election district residency laws.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh so you live in his district, So you got
from all the address on the envelope.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But so, I don't know. Maybe he could say I'm
a New Yorker, I'm from Long Island. Uh, maybe he
could run against Alis staphonic when she when she comes
up in another year and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, it's over now for the Trump administration has plainly
decided last night Wisconsin. Although Floridas one of their two
House seats, Okay, but that's Florida. Okay, that's like a
third world country. They're just crazy now there. So but
now with Wisconsin, now there's middle of the road, hard
working American people right there. Now, they know the issues
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and they vote as an educated electorate. So they voted
in a judge.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
These are the cheese heads. Yeah, the chiefe heads, the
cheese heads. All right, I just wanted to make sure
I knew what I was talking about her.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, the electorate they voted in a judge that's going
to give the availability for the Supreme Court in the
state of Wisconsin to redraw the lines. Was to make
sure they get they're going to get rid of the
Republican seats and they're going to make sure they have
all Democrat seats as it will be redrawn.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Now, this is the same group of people, right. So
yesterday there was two things that were being voted on
in the special election. One of them was that Supreme
Court justice and so they went with a woman who
said publicly that, in her opinion, the idea of being
forced to show voter ID is unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's what she said.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Now in the same election, this group who overwhelmingly elected
her also voted to pass voter ID.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So we've we've we've voted for something that we and
then we've put a judge in place who will guarantee
the first case. The challenge is that she will overrule
it because they got a four to three majority over this.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yes, why would these are the educated us as the
educated electorate that we were admonished that not all of
our electorates or not only not all of our citizens
are educated. We have the educated electorate because MSNBC will
take you, these are the smart people. Don't worry about
the freaking idiots in Florida. The smart people are saying
that this woman is going to make sure this. These
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these voters are going to support this woman because of
her policies. Now she's a judge. Now, why we have
judges with policies. So nonetheless, as Kelly described, we have
a little bit of a hypocrisy at the box office.
Here are the polling place?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Where are they the badger state. I just saw them
being referred to as the badger state, Wisconsin home to
a lot of badgers.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I believe that they are.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's a weird. I think I'd like to be called
the badger state.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's a more Plainly, they're cheeseheads.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We don't want to be your stinking badgers, and we.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Don't want to know crackers to go with their cheese.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, where's the cracker state? They should be next to
the cheeseheads.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, So Wisconsin leading the way with the educated
electorate plainly making decisions and the proof positive that the
Trump era is over. The Golden era has ended already,
and this is the beginning of it. And now as
we work towards the midterms and then certainly for the
election that Trump insists he's going to be able to
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run for in twenty twenty eight, this is the end
of it. Now you might as well just stick a
fork in it. It's done well.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'll be honest. I have been saying this that if
I think that Trump needs to let go of the
whole tariff thing, I know that we what do you
call yesterday Freedom Day or something.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Like that, Today's Independence Day, And it's going to be
a four o'clock is going to be the big announcement.
And I'm sure we're going to have a lot of
countries as we had to several of them yesterday make
phone calls. He's going to be at four o'clock. He's
going to give you a progress report.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, here's the reason I say he should let it
go is because he's the problem is he's correct right
that Americans have lost millions and millions of jobs because
we never leveled the playing field. And by leveling the
playing field, that means that when they have tariffs on us,
we should have had tariffs on them. We didn't do
it in order to keep lower prices for the American consumer,
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So we have cut deals where like in Vietnam where
minimum wage is like a nickel an hour, why would
you keep your company open in America where you got
to pay a minimum of seven to fifty an hour,
when you could pay somebody a nickel an hour and
they make whatever the product is, and it might not
be as good as the product if it was made
in America, but it won't be that far off. And
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whatever you're buying is probably pretty cheap, and you don't
need it to last very long to begin with. It's
a can opener or whatever. So we've done that to
ourselves for fifty years or so. So we don't have
fair trade. When people say, well, you came up being dated.
If you had fair trade, everything would be equal. We
don't have everything being equal. We have unfair trade. But
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you can't fix it in a like a quarter. This
is a fifty year problem. And unfortunately he's also not
wrong that the Chinese think about one hundred year solutions.
We think about quarterly solutions. And if Donald Trump wants
to have anything happening with his agenda after twenty twenty six,
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he needs to win the midterms. And if the economy tanks,
because you already see it on Wall Street that they're
tanking Wall Street and there's a bunch of stuff. Looks
are intentionally trying to tank Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I've seen what's his face? Who's the nut Jeb Walls? No, No,
that the nut job on CNBC. Oh, the balt got
Jim Kramer. Jim Kramer was on there saying only an
idiot would invest in the stock market, while Donald Trump's
the president, all right, so he's just saying, take the
next two years off he's obviously trying to tank the
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stock market, so there's a lot of things that are
working against that. But it's also the reality is that
the consumer confidence level is at an all time low
right now. People do not like this tariff stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You don't have the buy in that you're going to
need it. And you're right, you've got a couple of
different timelines working against you, as Kelly just described one.
The other one's going to be Although you have Honda
now announcing that made the largest investment on the planet
for a new facility in Indiana, it's going to take
a while to build that. So you're not going to
be hiring people tomorrow in Indiana to work for Honda.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, and he has to win the midterms because if
he loses the Senate. In the House, you've just been neutered.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, but if you lose the House, you've now created
all kinds of hurdles for yourself because you literally got
every Democrat in the House currently and the ones that
would become again who are going to launch their own
impeachment proceedings against you, articles of impeachment. There'll be an
avalanche over them.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, he needs to win the mid terms. And I
wish I had a better answer. I don't. I mean,
it's not even like I could say and then do it,
because if you do it in twenty twenty six, I mean,
when he talks about a rough patch, I think the
rough patch, I bet we could get through it in
my estimation in about three years, and about three years
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things would be amazing in America. But at no point
do you have three years to get through that period
where because you'll just lose the election. So like if
you were going through that three years and you started
on day one of the twenty twenty six we got
the new House in everybody's seat, Okay, great, Well, in
less than two years, you're going to have a presidential
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election and JD. Vance or whoever is running for the
president at that time is not going to win.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And certainly there are a lot of things that have
changed about information flows and the availability and even the
positions of the Democrats, in particular to say things that
are total ball face laws for twenty five hours NonStop
on the Senate floor, for God's sake, So they'd say
it at church, they'll say it in a box, they'll
say it in a box car. They'll say it anywhere.
I was going after some kind of weird Doctor Seuss thing,
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but it fell apart on me. Anyway, if you just
compared it like Ronald Reagan, it took three years under
Reagan attorney. Yes, while now you've got even more hurdles
in front of you, particularly if you lose the house.
We got a major problem coming your way because Honda
will just have finished the foundation and maybe have ten
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feet off the ground. So you're still going to be
two years away from Honda actually hiring people.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I just I know, I would like, he can't
fix everything.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I just used the Honda reference. I know. There's
twenty seven other commitments. I got it in. They're all great,
and it's like trillion dollars of investment coming, but that
takes a while. Then you just don't announce that and
open up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, so look, keep doing the deportations. Americans are loving that,
I know, I know the media is not loving it.
They say Americans are very afraid. And then they got
that fake story the Maryland dad. The Maryland dad, that's
totally a fake suns at home alone. Yeah, I know,
fake news, fake news. That guy's an MS thirteen gang banger.
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He's not this innocent, you know, little league loving father.
That's not who he was there. I mean, there's some
truth in the fact that they inadvertently deported that guy
to El Salvador, but that's neither here nor there. Americans
are loving that. They're loving Doze, You got that going
in the right direction. Keep it going with your tax cuts.
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Let's try to get some more in there. Let's you know,
let's build up the military. Al they love what you
know Pete hag Seth's doing with that, we're getting rid of,
you know, the idea that if you're a female you
only have to be able to lift X amount of
weight as opposed to a male. You have to be
the No, it's we're making it a uniform thing. If
you want to be in part of the fighting force
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of the US military, you must meet these requirements.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So and then on top of all that, you're going
to have the misinformation of disinformation with just a tiny
particle of truth. Here's a great headline from MSNBC. The
GOP is going after medicaid and planned parenthood at the
Supreme Court. So I know that that, as we mentioned,
a couple of times. It's the first day of the
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hearings of the Supreme Court, and this article mentions South Carolina.
So apparently, according to this article from MSNBC, the GOP
is going to make sure that there's no place for
women and particularly for women who can't afford the elected appointment.
There's no place for women to get a mammogram, screen,
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a pap smear. None of that's going to be available
now because the Republicans are taking it away from the
killing Medicaid. So when you show up at Planned Parenthood,
you have to pay out a pocket Now. The reality
of the story is much different, as you know. And
we'll be hearing those arguments that led on today about
the things that Planned Parenthood. I know that Planned parent
had says they don't they don't do abortions, that's the
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last resort. But they're really there for mammogram screenings and
the like and other cancer screenings. It's the only place
that women have for healthcare.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, is there. I mean, when
when you're talking about cancer screening, now.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
There's no other place to go. How many get you
want to get? You want to get a mammogram, you
got to go to Planned Parenthood. They don't do that
anyplace else.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's it's it's laughable.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So the headline the GOP is going after Medicaid and
Planned Parenthood at the Supreme Court. There is a morsel
of truth in that, but a morsel according to plan Parenthood.
By the way, those last resort abortions last year that
equal three hundred and ninety two, seven hundred and fifteen.
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That's how dire the women's healthy. We had no other right,
not even healthy enough to carry a child, because you
won't give them healthcare at Planned parenthood. This is their
first option healthcare. And by the way, abortion is healthcare.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's the other thing. How can you be healthy till
you've had an abortion? I feel less healthy right now
just knowing I've never had one.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm hoping that the some of the people we've heard
before the Senate are actually right in the subcommittee hearings
when they tell me that a man can have a child,
because I got to tell you, I'm getting to the
age now I'm starting to worry about my health a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right a whole lot also on the clock, like you
haven't had a trick.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
If I had an abortion, it make me healthier.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, first things first, go get your tampons from Tim,
get yourself set up with tamp on Tim, and then
we'll worry about abortions.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Then that's all right. So now in our rash thought
for today, we were giving you some information about math.
So the House GOP defends tax proposal that will increase
taxes for sixty percent of South Carolina residents. They have
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someone who's already done the breakdown. They've got an economist
here of the posting career, and they're telling you that
this whole flat rate tax thing, they might as well
just come to your house and you know, get your
just go to your bank, I guess, and just take
all the money out.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Why would we do that? Why would Republicans want to
raise taxes on most South Carolinians.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Now I didn't realize that Ron DeSantis had actually done this.
I know that we've talked about how we want to
reach the tax level of Florida or Tennessee. I didn't
realize that was the impact. I haven't read about that anywhere.
But if you could get to a zero tax, I
guess that'd be even worse.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That would raise it even more.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It would because if you do the math on this.
The state Republicans, the State House Republicans are defending contentious
income tax proposal that would raise taxes on low and
middle income earners and cut taxes for the wealthy in
our state. So they're looking to get it down to
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like four percent right now, it's like a three nine
nine right now. I think it'll convert that to a
two point four to nine percent income tax for earners
once fully realized. Will realize we'll require the state to
experience significant economic growth at a time uncertainty in the
federal level has caused some businesses to reconsider their investments.
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So just on the outset of looking for growth in
our state, we already know that's not true from that
article and that paragraph. Currently in South Carolina, approximately forty
four percent of residents pay no income, while middle class
owners pay three percent. The state's highest arners pay six
point two At Kelly, I know that you've already got
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your taxes done. Are you in the six point two
percent income bracket? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Unfortunately, I am as as anybody we would think, because
just so I'm looking at it right now. The South
Carolina income tax practicet for twenty twenty five. This coming
from the state of South Carolina. Now, if you want
to pay zero percent, that is an availability. You have
to make less than three thousand, five hundred and sixty
dollars for the year. If you make less than three hundred,
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three thousand, five hundred and six dollars, you pay nothing, right,
no income tax. Now, if you want to be what
that newspaper article identifies as middle class, right, middle class
income earners, that net is from three thousand, five hundred
and sixty dollars a year to seventeen thousand, eight hundred
and thirty dollars a year. Okay, that comes in at
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three percent. So when they say if you're making what
do they say in the story, it's like fifty five
thousand a year or whatever, you're going to pay an
extra five hundred a year.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, if you make fifty seven thousand dollars per year,
according to this estimation, then you would pay an extra
five hundred and twenty one dollars in taxes under this
GOP plan.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Because we would be going to a flat rate of
what is it, four percent?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Three point nine three point nine okay.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So again, if you're making under seventeen thousand dollars a year,
we'll make it eighteen thousand. If you're making under eighteen
thousand dollars a year, you're currently paying three percent. Now,
if you're making between thirty five basically thirty five hundred
and eighteen thousand dollars a year, I guess you would
be paying more because we're just going to tax it
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at three point nine percent moving forward. Is that so
those people might have a beef, but not the fifty
five thousand dollars a year person, because if you make
over seventeen thousand dollars a year, you're considered high income
in this state. Seventeen thousand and eight thirty to three
hundred and thirty five thousand dollars a year, that's the
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next tax bracket. That's everybody who makes less than seventeen
thousand dollars other than part time workers. So all of
us currently pay six point two percent on the income tax.
So if we drop it from six point two to
three point ninety nine, it's an income tax cut.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We live by our own rule, and we kind of
abandon that rule that I don't do math on the radio.
We really need to reach out to doctor Joey if
he's had enough time to review this plan, and he
probably would say, I don't review anything until it's passed.
Why am I going to waste my time again? The
goal is to get to zero, right we did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We have Pamela evidd On last week and she said
that she wants to get to zero. I think Allan
Wilson has publicly stated if he was the governor, that's
the goal to get to zero. I have no idea
what Nancy Mace is talking about, but whatever she's talking about,
I'm just certain that the goal of the Republican Party
of South Carolina is to get to a zero percent
income tax. And some of you may be like stunned
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right now, like how could a state operate on a
zero percent income tax? We did it for like the
first two hundred years of the state. Somehow the state
was able to run. Maybe we just have more lotteries.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I do believe we need to make the lottery available
for the debit card. Oh sure, I don't know why
you wouldn't do that. Absolutely, I can't believe that the
convenience store lobbyists don't have more money rolling down the hallways.
I mean, that's one of the biggest foot traffic drivers
at convenience stores is the lottery? You're going to allow
people to make that purchase in their car?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Can I just go to the sc Lottery Instagram account,
click like and you'll just send me a ticket?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And the South Carolina Lottery does have its own app.
I did download that so I can look at it well.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And you vote? You know, was it Joe Biden said
that the Georgia voting law was you know what did
he call it again? Dred Scott or something to two
point zero? He was all about this racist.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, isn't it racist that I would have to pay
cash for a lottery ticket? Why would you make it
so inconvenient for me? Why isn't it racist that I
might even be asked to show an ID to buy
a lottery ticket?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's a great question. Is here an age? You gotta
be eighteen year older to play the play? But why
why would I have to show an ID? That's that's racist.
Why would you deny a six year old who worked
hard breaking that lawn?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh so you're saying, let's just open it up to everybody,
free body?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Why would you deny a six year old the opportunity
to spend that money he earned raking yards or whatever
to buy a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You remind me of the Ronald Reagan joke that's making
the rounds again. I don't know how this started, but
I've seen it like four times in two days now.
Ronald Reagan tells this joke and it goes something like
I met a very liberal family who has a daughter,
and I was talking to the youngster, and she was
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asking me the question, as the president of the United States,
why are you against helping poor people? And I said,
what would you do if you were the president? And
she said, I would make houses for free for everybody
in America. And her parents smiled proudly at her, knowing
that they were raising a great liberal and ia and
(33:30):
I said, that's a noble cause. I said, but you know,
you don't have to wait to become the president to
help the homeless. As a matter of fact, like if
you came to my house today and you cut my lawn,
I'll pay you fifty dollars, and then you could take
that fifty dollars and you could walk down to a
homeless person and give it to them. And she said,
(33:51):
why would I take the fifty dollars that I just
worked so hard for and give it away. Why wouldn't
the why wouldn't you just offer that job? Or I
wentin the homeless guy, just come and mow your lawn,
and I said, welcome to the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
There are different variations of that story about I love
every day. One of them.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The video is just going crazy on the social media
these days. I don't know why, but that people are
bringing it back
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, my voice is inadequate. My efforts today.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Are inadequate, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Every law passed before the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights
Act should be presumptively unconstitutional. So why should I give
about some law that some old white man passed in
the nineteen twenties, like the Immigration in Nationality Act?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show, how strange was it? And
he even said it he was inadequate. He spoke for
twenty five hours to break Stean Thurman's filibuster record, and
Corey Booker said less in twenty five hours than is
it Eli? I can't always can't remember how to say
his name.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I say Ellie, miss Stall, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I know it's miss Stall, but I don't know Ellie.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Or is it Elie.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I always see his name at the on the crawler
or the in the credit screen when he's on MSNBC,
and I though he's always going to say something to
make me laugh out loud. So yesterday we we learned
in a probably a twelve minute interview on the view,
more than we learned in twenty four out well, we
learned a lot in twenty five hours with Corey Booker,
(01:09):
What did you learn? We learned that he is four.
He's for due process for global citizens. That was actually
emphasized and re emphasized by Raskin yesterday. He wants to
bring all those Venezuelan now incarcerated Venezuelan gang members back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It reminded me of the final scene of trading places,
like where the two brothers have gone bankrupt. In the
one bankrupt, He's like, get those machines back in here,
turn the mark on, get those gang bankers back in here.
We need their votes.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So we learned that. We also learned that Donald Trump
lying to the American people because he's taking away and
today we've got a big Supreme Court ruling coming now
actually the first of several days. I'm sure of the
hearing that Donald Trump is going to take away your
Medicare and Medicaid, and he's going to take away your
Social Security. He went big on that, and then he
(02:03):
called Donald Trump a liar about one hundred times while
telling you things that were totally untrue.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now that's the whole thing. He's a showman, not a
good one, but he's a showman, and I think that
the Republicans could learn something possibly about showmanship from the Democrats,
because that did move the needle. Not a lot, but
it did move the needle because there are a bunch
of people who are I would say, politically, what's the word.
(02:31):
They don't follow politics, but they see a man crying
on television saying I am not gonna let them take
medicaid from the people who needed most, and we're not
gonna shut down the VA. I refuse to allow the
VA to be shut down. These veterans desperately need this help.
And they're like, wait a minute, what the what is happening?
(02:54):
I mean, we could do the same thing to them.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You then he got a little bit of he got
a little bit over to the preacher lane.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So dear God, if you've ever loved America, please love
us now. We need your love.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Dear God, your only hope. The obi wan Kenobia the
Democrat Party. Yes, not the same guy we heard sing
about during the Bernie Sanders rally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, No, that that God, I don't don't want would
google that?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Do not google singer Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Trans singer performs rape song to start Bernie Sanders rally.
Who he thanked for it. He was not offended by that.
He thought it was a great song. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He spent twenty five hours telling you that Donald Trump
was a liar because he was going to take away
your Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So he's a liar because he's he claims, he's he
claims he's not.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes, that Elion must says he's trying to save Social Security,
So he's a liar. Yes. What what Corey wants you
to know is he's going to save it by making
sure the people who paid into it are not going
to get anything out of it. Okay, all right, so
good luck sell him that one. Although you spend a
lot of time, didn't quite close the deal. Get back
out there and close the deal. Well he I mean,
(04:04):
mister Smith goes to Washington, so when.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
We you know, I was telling you about this clip
that CNN had yesterday, which was I should look that
up again because that was crazy. This guy. I don't
know who the guy was. That's what I would like
to know. The guy on CNN who was talking about
the Democrats' approval ratings are in a free fall. They're
at an all time low right now, and the guy
(04:27):
who is delivering the news. Now, he may have been
interpreting this, but it seemed like he had some inside
data that he just didn't have on the screen. And
he was saying that even amongst Democrats, so I am
a not only a registered Democrat voter. I voted in
the last election, So you had to have voted in
(04:49):
the last election. They are underwater with Democrats who their
approval ratings and what the polling shows apparently, according to
this was they do not want compromise them. Now, he
said in a fight. He said, if you compare that
to the twenty eighteen polling, the Democrats of twenty eighteen
(05:10):
during the first Trump administration said we have to keep
the government moving forward, make compromises where possible. That that
was the attitude of the twenty eighteen one keep the
government open. Yeah, that is not the mood of the
current Democrat according to this guy on CNN yesterday who
was screaming, they want you to fight them every step
(05:33):
of the way. They want you to shut the government down,
like that's why they're against Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer had
an opportunity to shut it down and he didn't do it.
He's blinked. You blinked, Chuck. We wanted the government shut
down because this is not our government, this is Trump's government.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Shut it down.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's the way they're reading the data.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And what do they have to lose? Because we're already
shutting down Social Security, the VA, Medicare, Medicaid, we're shutting
it all down anyway, So why not go ahead and
shut everything down? And it needs the park system.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So if you have that attitude, Corey Booker basically shutting
down the government for twenty five hours yesterday in order
to sell the lie that they believe that would certainly
make hay for them. They would like that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I will give him credit for this. He knows that
Bernie's out there fighting, but Bernie's known socialist. He knows
that Jasmine Crockett's out there fighting, but her mouth's getting
out of control and she's not doing it the right way.
He goes out, as Kelly says, and performs, wearing a
very conservative outfit. He looked very statesmanlike. Yes, he was
(06:43):
emotionally attached. He relayed to the world what his constituency
was saying. He read a letter from a woman who
was diagnosed with Parkinson's. I didn't realize that Corey Booker's
father had actually been diagnosed and then died from Parkinson's.
I wouldn't wish that on anybody, and I'm sorry to
(07:04):
hear that his family had to go through. That's already
hear about this woman. But because Trump is going to
shut down Medicare and because he's going to shut down
Social Security, she is going to now have absolutely no
help from the government that she has supported all of
her working life.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, he was about if he'd given himself another hour,
he would have claimed that Donald Trump would now put
you down. Donald Trump will put a bullet in your
head once you get some sort of diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Thankfully, he didn't have to go that far to get
to the twenty five hours. So he'd claimed the new
record and be the longest filibuster. All right, So we
got that going on, and then we mentioned Jamie Raskin.
He's demanding we bring back the prisoners. Well in the
demand they move in with you.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
In your opener, you used Ellie Mestahal and Ellie looking
like one of the founding fathers in his powdered wig.
He's there talking about it's unconstitutional any law that was
passed pre nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Because we were living in on the part that state. You
got to use that word because of Elon Musk's heritage.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But a quick, quick question, wouldn't the Constitution then be unconstitutional?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You can't even use the word unconstitutional to describe what
you're trying to describe because the Constitution never existed as
the way you described it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, so his whole line of reason, do you like
the Constitution that was written by old white men? Now,
apparently I looked him. I looked him up on Wikipedia,
they said. In a March twenty twenty two interview, Ali
miss Stahle says, the United States Constitution quote is actually trash.
(08:50):
So if it's unconstitutional, wouldn't that be a good thing?
If the Constitution is actually trashed. We act like this
thing was etched in stone by the finger of God,
but it was actually rolled out over a couple of
hot weeks in Philadelphia and the summer of eighteen eighty
seven by a bunch of rich white politicians who just
wanted to get the hell out of Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I never read the part where they just wanted to
get the hell out of Philadelphia. He must have had
some personal ridings.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
They figured, look, somebody will clean this up. Maybe there'll
be some guy in a powdered wig. Hey, we'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Let's go what you got and make amendments possible. Let's
move along. Then they can change it as they want.
Let's get the hell out of Philadelphia. The damn what
was it that was driving the nuts when they were
riding it. It was the clacking of the horseshoes on
the cobblestone streets.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I would also imagine that horse maneure.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They actually had sent out people to put straw down
on the road so they would not hear the constant
clacking of horses. And for those of you who may
if I remember that correctly from Mike fifth grade history.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
If there's some of you who might find yourself agreeing
with Ellie Mistal that the any law passed before nineteen
sixty five is unconstitutional because we were living in an
apartheid state, because blacks did not have the right to vote,
I would refer you to the fifteenth Amendment and ask
mister Mustaal to read what was in the fifteenth Amendment,
(10:21):
which was passed in eighteen sixty nine. So I don't
know if mister mustal understands how to read amendments, or
if he could even look at history and realize that
under his premise, it was all whites that were electing
black members of Congress back in the late eighteen hundreds.
(10:46):
Is that who did it? Or were there blacks voting?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There were? The fifteenth Amendment gives rights to the blacks
to vote. Oh my gosh, so they had the right
to vote for one hundred years before eighteen six or
before nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Look, he's the lawsuit graduate from Harvard. He didn't say
constitutional law. It just says law school.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's very it's just very frustrating that Democrats just because
to your point, he knows better. Yes, Mestelee's not a
moron of us. It's that you don't get through the
Harvard law school without understanding, but you then manipulate the
truth in a way to try to make it some
sort of narrative where it looks like America till nineteen
sixty five was just this racist. It was racist in
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the sense that if you want to look at the
Deep South, in particular where we live in South Carolina,
who is destroying it? Democrats? The Democrat party, the founders
of the KKK, the original Jim crow Law folks.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's why. That's why when I can't remember if it
was a Gavin Newsom, I forgot. One of the Democrats
was saying, we really just need to scrap the whole thing,
and but they were pushback, you can't. We're not going
to create a new party. And you know, something that
would have been the best advice you could have gotten,
created to get away from your heritage of your Democrat
party because it ain't pretty.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Whatever the Whigs did, they didn't want to come back.
Somebody said, rebrand it. I don't know what they are now.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
We are literally, I think only weeks away. I was
going to say days. But he's gonna book himself in.
You go see a lot of mister ms Stahl on
MSNBC now because he's become like the Golden child with
his where he cursed on ABC TV. Did they edit it?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think he self edited it. He said, why the
would I give a.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I think you're literally weeks away from his announcement
to run for the Senate. He's not going to go
for a house seat. I don't even know where he's from,
but he's going to take on somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Could he run for Senate? I mean, like, who's I'm
just thinking where does he live? I'm assuming he lives
in d C. Right, I mean, this guy is the
when I picture in my mind a swamp creature like
his face and fat butt would be in my mind
like somebody who's just gording self off the American taxpayer.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Well, I don't know, maybe in the culture personality that
they constantly preach to us about, then we should just
make for he's just going to make a presidential run.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm wondering where he lives. That's a good question. Now
he's from originally, I'm guessing from New York because I
know that they If you go to his Wikipedia page,
it says that his father was elected to the Suffolk
County Legislature and a very influential political operative whose career
ended with a fine after being found guilty for violating
election district residency laws.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh so you live in his district, So you got
from all the address on the envelope.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But so, I don't know. Maybe he could say I'm
a New Yorker, I'm from Long Island. Uh, maybe he
could run against Alis staphonic when she when she comes
up in another year and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, it's over now for the Trump administration has plainly
decided last night Wisconsin. Although Floridas one of their two
House seats, Okay, but that's Florida. Okay, that's like a
third world country. They're just crazy now there. So but
now with Wisconsin, now there's middle of the road, hard
working American people right there. Now, they know the issues
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and they vote as an educated electorate. So they voted
in a judge.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
These are the cheese heads. Yeah, the chiefe heads, the
cheese heads. All right, I just wanted to make sure
I knew what I was talking about her.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, the electorate they voted in a judge that's going
to give the availability for the Supreme Court in the
state of Wisconsin to redraw the lines. Was to make
sure they get they're going to get rid of the
Republican seats and they're going to make sure they have
all Democrat seats as it will be redrawn.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Now, this is the same group of people, right. So
yesterday there was two things that were being voted on
in the special election. One of them was that Supreme
Court justice and so they went with a woman who
said publicly that, in her opinion, the idea of being
forced to show voter ID is unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's what she said.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Now in the same election, this group who overwhelmingly elected
her also voted to pass voter ID.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So we've we've we've voted for something that we and
then we've put a judge in place who will guarantee
the first case. The challenge is that she will overrule
it because they got a four to three majority over this.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yes, why would these are the educated us as the
educated electorate that we were admonished that not all of
our electorates or not only not all of our citizens
are educated. We have the educated electorate because MSNBC will
take you, these are the smart people. Don't worry about
the freaking idiots in Florida. The smart people are saying
that this woman is going to make sure this. These
(15:44):
these voters are going to support this woman because of
her policies. Now she's a judge. Now, why we have
judges with policies. So nonetheless, as Kelly described, we have
a little bit of a hypocrisy at the box office.
Here are the polling place?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Where are they the badger state. I just saw them
being referred to as the badger state, Wisconsin home to
a lot of badgers.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I believe that they are.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's a weird. I think I'd like to be called
the badger state.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's a more Plainly, they're cheeseheads.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We don't want to be your stinking badgers, and we.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Don't want to know crackers to go with their cheese.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, where's the cracker state? They should be next to
the cheeseheads.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, So Wisconsin leading the way with the educated
electorate plainly making decisions and the proof positive that the
Trump era is over. The Golden era has ended already,
and this is the beginning of it. And now as
we work towards the midterms and then certainly for the
election that Trump insists he's going to be able to
(16:45):
run for in twenty twenty eight, this is the end
of it. Now you might as well just stick a
fork in it. It's done well.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I'll be honest. I have been saying this that if
I think that Trump needs to let go of the
whole tariff thing, I know that we what do you
call yesterday Freedom Day or something.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Like that, Today's Independence Day, And it's going to be
a four o'clock is going to be the big announcement.
And I'm sure we're going to have a lot of
countries as we had to several of them yesterday make
phone calls. He's going to be at four o'clock. He's
going to give you a progress report.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, here's the reason I say he should let it
go is because he's the problem is he's correct right
that Americans have lost millions and millions of jobs because
we never leveled the playing field. And by leveling the
playing field, that means that when they have tariffs on us,
we should have had tariffs on them. We didn't do
it in order to keep lower prices for the American consumer,
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So we have cut deals where like in Vietnam where
minimum wage is like a nickel an hour, why would
you keep your company open in America where you got
to pay a minimum of seven to fifty an hour,
when you could pay somebody a nickel an hour and
they make whatever the product is, and it might not
be as good as the product if it was made
in America, but it won't be that far off. And
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whatever you're buying is probably pretty cheap, and you don't
need it to last very long to begin with. It's
a can opener or whatever. So we've done that to
ourselves for fifty years or so. So we don't have
fair trade. When people say, well, you came up being dated.
If you had fair trade, everything would be equal. We
don't have everything being equal. We have unfair trade. But
(18:27):
you can't fix it in a like a quarter. This
is a fifty year problem. And unfortunately he's also not
wrong that the Chinese think about one hundred year solutions.
We think about quarterly solutions. And if Donald Trump wants
to have anything happening with his agenda after twenty twenty six,
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he needs to win the midterms. And if the economy tanks,
because you already see it on Wall Street that they're
tanking Wall Street and there's a bunch of stuff. Looks
are intentionally trying to tank Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I've seen what's his face? Who's the nut Jeb Walls? No, No,
that the nut job on CNBC. Oh, the balt got
Jim Kramer. Jim Kramer was on there saying only an
idiot would invest in the stock market, while Donald Trump's
the president, all right, so he's just saying, take the
next two years off he's obviously trying to tank the
(19:24):
stock market, so there's a lot of things that are
working against that. But it's also the reality is that
the consumer confidence level is at an all time low
right now. People do not like this tariff stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You don't have the buy in that you're going to
need it. And you're right, you've got a couple of
different timelines working against you, as Kelly just described one.
The other one's going to be Although you have Honda
now announcing that made the largest investment on the planet
for a new facility in Indiana, it's going to take
a while to build that. So you're not going to
be hiring people tomorrow in Indiana to work for Honda.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, and he has to win the midterms because if
he loses the Senate. In the House, you've just been neutered.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, but if you lose the House, you've now created
all kinds of hurdles for yourself because you literally got
every Democrat in the House currently and the ones that
would become again who are going to launch their own
impeachment proceedings against you, articles of impeachment. There'll be an
avalanche over them.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, he needs to win the mid terms. And I
wish I had a better answer. I don't. I mean,
it's not even like I could say and then do it,
because if you do it in twenty twenty six, I mean,
when he talks about a rough patch, I think the
rough patch, I bet we could get through it in
my estimation in about three years, and about three years
(20:42):
things would be amazing in America. But at no point
do you have three years to get through that period
where because you'll just lose the election. So like if
you were going through that three years and you started
on day one of the twenty twenty six we got
the new House in everybody's seat, Okay, great, Well, in
less than two years, you're going to have a presidential
(21:03):
election and JD. Vance or whoever is running for the
president at that time is not going to win.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And certainly there are a lot of things that have
changed about information flows and the availability and even the
positions of the Democrats, in particular to say things that
are total ball face laws for twenty five hours NonStop
on the Senate floor, for God's sake, So they'd say
it at church, they'll say it in a box, they'll
say it in a box car. They'll say it anywhere.
I was going after some kind of weird Doctor Seuss thing,
(21:30):
but it fell apart on me. Anyway, if you just
compared it like Ronald Reagan, it took three years under
Reagan attorney. Yes, while now you've got even more hurdles
in front of you, particularly if you lose the house.
We got a major problem coming your way because Honda
will just have finished the foundation and maybe have ten
(21:51):
feet off the ground. So you're still going to be
two years away from Honda actually hiring people.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I just I know, I would like, he can't
fix everything.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I just used the Honda reference. I know. There's
twenty seven other commitments. I got it in. They're all great,
and it's like trillion dollars of investment coming, but that
takes a while. Then you just don't announce that and
open up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, so look, keep doing the deportations. Americans are loving that,
I know, I know the media is not loving it.
They say Americans are very afraid. And then they got
that fake story the Maryland dad. The Maryland dad, that's
totally a fake suns at home alone. Yeah, I know,
fake news, fake news. That guy's an MS thirteen gang banger.
(22:33):
He's not this innocent, you know, little league loving father.
That's not who he was there. I mean, there's some
truth in the fact that they inadvertently deported that guy
to El Salvador, but that's neither here nor there. Americans
are loving that. They're loving Doze, You got that going
in the right direction. Keep it going with your tax cuts.
(22:55):
Let's try to get some more in there. Let's you know,
let's build up the military. Al they love what you
know Pete hag Seth's doing with that, we're getting rid of,
you know, the idea that if you're a female you
only have to be able to lift X amount of
weight as opposed to a male. You have to be
the No, it's we're making it a uniform thing. If
you want to be in part of the fighting force
(23:16):
of the US military, you must meet these requirements.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So and then on top of all that, you're going
to have the misinformation of disinformation with just a tiny
particle of truth. Here's a great headline from MSNBC. The
GOP is going after medicaid and planned parenthood at the
Supreme Court. So I know that that, as we mentioned,
a couple of times. It's the first day of the
(23:40):
hearings of the Supreme Court, and this article mentions South Carolina.
So apparently, according to this article from MSNBC, the GOP
is going to make sure that there's no place for
women and particularly for women who can't afford the elected appointment.
There's no place for women to get a mammogram, screen,
(24:01):
a pap smear. None of that's going to be available
now because the Republicans are taking it away from the
killing Medicaid. So when you show up at Planned Parenthood,
you have to pay out a pocket Now. The reality
of the story is much different, as you know. And
we'll be hearing those arguments that led on today about
the things that Planned Parenthood. I know that Planned parent
had says they don't they don't do abortions, that's the
(24:24):
last resort. But they're really there for mammogram screenings and
the like and other cancer screenings. It's the only place
that women have for healthcare.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, is there. I mean, when
when you're talking about cancer screening, now.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
There's no other place to go. How many get you
want to get? You want to get a mammogram, you
got to go to Planned Parenthood. They don't do that
anyplace else.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's it's it's laughable.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So the headline the GOP is going after Medicaid and
Planned Parenthood at the Supreme Court. There is a morsel
of truth in that, but a morsel according to plan Parenthood.
By the way, those last resort abortions last year that
equal three hundred and ninety two, seven hundred and fifteen.
(25:10):
That's how dire the women's healthy. We had no other right,
not even healthy enough to carry a child, because you
won't give them healthcare at Planned parenthood. This is their
first option healthcare. And by the way, abortion is healthcare.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's the other thing. How can you be healthy till
you've had an abortion? I feel less healthy right now
just knowing I've never had one.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm hoping that the some of the people we've heard
before the Senate are actually right in the subcommittee hearings
when they tell me that a man can have a child,
because I got to tell you, I'm getting to the
age now I'm starting to worry about my health a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right a whole lot also on the clock, like you
haven't had a trick.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
If I had an abortion, it make me healthier.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, first things first, go get your tampons from Tim,
get yourself set up with tamp on Tim, and then
we'll worry about abortions.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Then that's all right. So now in our rash thought
for today, we were giving you some information about math.
So the House GOP defends tax proposal that will increase
taxes for sixty percent of South Carolina residents. They have
(26:18):
someone who's already done the breakdown. They've got an economist
here of the posting career, and they're telling you that
this whole flat rate tax thing, they might as well
just come to your house and you know, get your
just go to your bank, I guess, and just take
all the money out.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Why would we do that? Why would Republicans want to
raise taxes on most South Carolinians.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Now I didn't realize that Ron DeSantis had actually done this.
I know that we've talked about how we want to
reach the tax level of Florida or Tennessee. I didn't
realize that was the impact. I haven't read about that anywhere.
But if you could get to a zero tax, I
guess that'd be even worse.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That would raise it even more.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It would because if you do the math on this.
The state Republicans, the State House Republicans are defending contentious
income tax proposal that would raise taxes on low and
middle income earners and cut taxes for the wealthy in
our state. So they're looking to get it down to
(27:24):
like four percent right now, it's like a three nine
nine right now. I think it'll convert that to a
two point four to nine percent income tax for earners
once fully realized. Will realize we'll require the state to
experience significant economic growth at a time uncertainty in the
federal level has caused some businesses to reconsider their investments.
(27:45):
So just on the outset of looking for growth in
our state, we already know that's not true from that
article and that paragraph. Currently in South Carolina, approximately forty
four percent of residents pay no income, while middle class
owners pay three percent. The state's highest arners pay six
point two At Kelly, I know that you've already got
(28:05):
your taxes done. Are you in the six point two
percent income bracket? Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Unfortunately, I am as as anybody we would think, because
just so I'm looking at it right now. The South
Carolina income tax practicet for twenty twenty five. This coming
from the state of South Carolina. Now, if you want
to pay zero percent, that is an availability. You have
to make less than three thousand, five hundred and sixty
dollars for the year. If you make less than three hundred,
(28:33):
three thousand, five hundred and six dollars, you pay nothing, right,
no income tax. Now, if you want to be what
that newspaper article identifies as middle class, right, middle class
income earners, that net is from three thousand, five hundred
and sixty dollars a year to seventeen thousand, eight hundred
and thirty dollars a year. Okay, that comes in at
(28:55):
three percent. So when they say if you're making what
do they say in the story, it's like fifty five
thousand a year or whatever, you're going to pay an
extra five hundred a year.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, if you make fifty seven thousand dollars per year,
according to this estimation, then you would pay an extra
five hundred and twenty one dollars in taxes under this
GOP plan.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Because we would be going to a flat rate of
what is it, four percent?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Three point nine three point nine okay.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So again, if you're making under seventeen thousand dollars a year,
we'll make it eighteen thousand. If you're making under eighteen
thousand dollars a year, you're currently paying three percent. Now,
if you're making between thirty five basically thirty five hundred
and eighteen thousand dollars a year, I guess you would
be paying more because we're just going to tax it
(29:43):
at three point nine percent moving forward. Is that so
those people might have a beef, but not the fifty
five thousand dollars a year person, because if you make
over seventeen thousand dollars a year, you're considered high income
in this state. Seventeen thousand and eight thirty to three
hundred and thirty five thousand dollars a year, that's the
(30:06):
next tax bracket. That's everybody who makes less than seventeen
thousand dollars other than part time workers. So all of
us currently pay six point two percent on the income tax.
So if we drop it from six point two to
three point ninety nine, it's an income tax cut.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We live by our own rule, and we kind of
abandon that rule that I don't do math on the radio.
We really need to reach out to doctor Joey if
he's had enough time to review this plan, and he
probably would say, I don't review anything until it's passed.
Why am I going to waste my time again? The
goal is to get to zero, right we did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We have Pamela evidd On last week and she said
that she wants to get to zero. I think Allan
Wilson has publicly stated if he was the governor, that's
the goal to get to zero. I have no idea
what Nancy Mace is talking about, but whatever she's talking about,
I'm just certain that the goal of the Republican Party
of South Carolina is to get to a zero percent
income tax. And some of you may be like stunned
(31:06):
right now, like how could a state operate on a
zero percent income tax? We did it for like the
first two hundred years of the state. Somehow the state
was able to run. Maybe we just have more lotteries.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I do believe we need to make the lottery available
for the debit card. Oh sure, I don't know why
you wouldn't do that. Absolutely, I can't believe that the
convenience store lobbyists don't have more money rolling down the hallways.
I mean, that's one of the biggest foot traffic drivers
at convenience stores is the lottery? You're going to allow
people to make that purchase in their car?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Can I just go to the sc Lottery Instagram account,
click like and you'll just send me a ticket?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And the South Carolina Lottery does have its own app.
I did download that so I can look at it well.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And you vote? You know, was it Joe Biden said
that the Georgia voting law was you know what did
he call it again? Dred Scott or something to two
point zero? He was all about this racist.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, isn't it racist that I would have to pay
cash for a lottery ticket? Why would you make it
so inconvenient for me? Why isn't it racist that I
might even be asked to show an ID to buy
a lottery ticket?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's a great question. Is here an age? You gotta
be eighteen year older to play the play? But why
why would I have to show an ID? That's that's racist.
Why would you deny a six year old who worked
hard breaking that lawn?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh so you're saying, let's just open it up to everybody,
free body?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Why would you deny a six year old the opportunity
to spend that money he earned raking yards or whatever
to buy a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You remind me of the Ronald Reagan joke that's making
the rounds again. I don't know how this started, but
I've seen it like four times in two days now.
Ronald Reagan tells this joke and it goes something like
I met a very liberal family who has a daughter,
and I was talking to the youngster, and she was
(33:08):
asking me the question, as the president of the United States,
why are you against helping poor people? And I said,
what would you do if you were the president? And
she said, I would make houses for free for everybody
in America. And her parents smiled proudly at her, knowing
that they were raising a great liberal and ia and
(33:30):
I said, that's a noble cause. I said, but you know,
you don't have to wait to become the president to
help the homeless. As a matter of fact, like if
you came to my house today and you cut my lawn,
I'll pay you fifty dollars, and then you could take
that fifty dollars and you could walk down to a
homeless person and give it to them. And she said,
(33:51):
why would I take the fifty dollars that I just
worked so hard for and give it away. Why wouldn't
the why wouldn't you just offer that job? Or I
wentin the homeless guy, just come and mow your lawn,
and I said, welcome to the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
There are different variations of that story about I love
every day. One of them.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The video is just going crazy on the social media
these days. I don't know why, but that people are
bringing it back
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