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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, she was.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here illegally with deportation orders in twenty nineteen. What part
of that do not understand?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I understand the story very well, and I'm going to
stop going back and forth with you on this, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No, I will not let you go forward. He was
an illegal alien in this country with a deportation order
in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. They will not let it go.
The Democrat talking hits will not let it go. Plainly,
the Republicans are the party of law and order. The
Democrats are the party of criminal justice. We're going to
get justice for these criminals.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know, well, it depends on your definition of a criminal, right,
I mean, And that's been the Democrats trick now for
like five or six years. They just changed definitions of words.
I'm looking at this guy, Representative Malcolm Kenyata. Disappearing people
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without due process is fascism, full stop. I'm sick to
my stomach. We all should be about the actions of
the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
They took a legal resident and they put him on
a plane, and they sent him to what they claimed
to be his country. Of origin.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, that's what I said. Has he actually quote unquote
disappeared or was he just returned to his homeland? We
know exactly where he.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is, yes, yes now, and he's not yesterday by the
president of his country of origin, and they're not interested
in releasing him, not in their country, not in our country,
not into the world.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So, and I learned a little bit yesterday. I hadn't
heard this before. So when they say he's an MS
thirteen gang member, and then you have people pushing back
on he has no connections to MS thirteen. So did
you hear this story about how they've connected him to
MS thirteen.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I just know they as two courts who have decided
that he is a member of MS thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So he was a member of a gang and I'm
trying to remember the name of it, but it was
like the one twenty eighth Street gang in El Salvador.
He was in that gang. That's when he left for America.
He was a member, never stopped being a member, still
participated with them until they were overtaken by MS thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, it's like a corporate takeover exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So that gang is now MS thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And that's why he's able to say I've never had
anything to do with MS thirteen. I don't have any
MS thirteen tattoos. I'm not one of them. But no,
you are a gang member and your gang is now
inside MS thirteen. That's how they got him to be
an MS thirteen gang member.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, speaking as a cap Star a broadcasting employee, okay,
because in the final corporate takeovers where led I heart
it led to become the parent company of cap Store.
Now am I heart media employee or my employee of
cap Store? Well?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like today we learned that Hostess was taken over by Smuckers.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We learned that because they're celebrating pot Day Stoner Day
on Easter this year. Four twenty is Easter, But we
didn't know that Smuckers bought out Hostess. So who do
you work for now?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Joe Biden's going to speak today and I forgot where
he's speaking, But he's going to speak out and very forcefully,
is what I've been told by Democrats who are in
the know. I'm assuming they're in the know because they
got the talking points from the former administration's now current spokesperson.
Whoever that is, but he's going to speak forcefully. I'm
sure about this issue having to do with MS thirteen
another game related members. Now, the one thing that is
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clear is that they have placed their bets at home
and can't do it. He cannot deport the fourteen million
people that they brought in to vote in the next election,
and they're going to double down on that so they
can make sure that they are as they continue to die.
You need to show ID to be a to vote
so they can get their national push going on to
make sure they get an extra fourteen million vot in
the next midterm at all possible, but certainly for the
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next presidential election, which will of course be Kamala as
many think. I think AOC is now the odd zone favorite.
According according to her dad, Bernie Sanders, who introduced her
as his daughter, AOC is going to be the odd
zone favorite for the presidential election in twenty twenty eight.
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But well, y'all have double down on the fat. We
got to keep these. We got these, We went out
of our way to skirt the Constitution as much as possible,
and we got the fourteen million here. We're going to
make damn sure that they vote went to all this
trouble to get them here. We're not going to let
them go.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, they didn't show up for you, right, they didn't.
They didn't come out, and unfortunately for them, it seems
as if they.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Are going away. We've got.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
As far as the Democrats go, Kamala Harris is the
front runner at forty one one percent, and then it's
just a myriad of people including AOC but also now
randomly tied with her in today's polling is Stephen A. Smith,
a man who has literally led nothing. He's never done
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anything other than comment on sports his entire Like when
they mocked Donald Trump and say reality TV star okay,
who also ran an empire. Yes, he built an empire.
Now you can say his dad did it. His dad
was doing, you know, an eighth of what Donald Trump did.
He had a very successful low income housing projects, that
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is what he did. Donald Trump came into the luxury
real estate market and quadrupled what his dad was doing. So, yes,
Donald Trump knows how to run businesses.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Smith has never even had a lemonade stand as far
as we know.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
As far as I know now this does have a
huge South Carolina TI in as the hosting couriers headlines,
and we talked about today in our rash thought I'd
like to expand on a little bit because we did
have ninety seconds, only had an opportunity to share a
little bit of the story so far as the quotes
involved here, which are nearly as priceless as the quotes
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that we got yesterday after Bisos welcomed his girlfriend and
her and her friends back from nearly out of space.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well it's his fiance.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, they are okay. Ice growing South Carolina presence threatens
to undo trust between police and the state's Latino residents.
So in the lower part of the state and the
low country as you call it, the sheriff's offices in
South Carolina joined the federal program to assist immigration enforcement.
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Now some worry that this will undercut decades long efforts
to build trust between local police departments and the Latino
communities they serve. Now, it is no laughing matter that
the Latino community, whether they are here legally as a
visa holder or whether they're citizens, have, as we know
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from a lot of the reports, a lot of criminal
activities in the communities, and some of them are afraid
to reach out to the police and as Kelly pointed out,
I don't know if you pointed that out during the podcast.
I mean, rash thalb, you've pointed that out before. There's
a barrier here with communication because of language.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, that's what they're saying, which is amazing to me
that jahare Bess, the Latin Advisory Committee in Goose Creek
and secretary of the Hispanic Business Association, basically puts the
blame on the Latinos because she says, they come to
these meetings, we have them attend, they hear everything the
officials have to say, but at the end of the day,
are they comprehending what's being said? Ninety percent of the time,
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I would say no. And then in the same story,
you've got a guy named William Leon who got a
job at the North Charleston Police to apartment. He is
not a sworn officer, but his job is to quote
close the gap between the police department on the Latino community.
And he says that going back to when he started,
which was just in twenty twenty three. Obviously Donald Trump's
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not in office in twenty twenty three, He's saying there
was a huge hesitation in the Latin community to report
crimes because there were incidents and investigations that stalled because
of limited information. So he started working back then to
try to get the people to report the crimes. Obviously,
this is not just a Trump move. This is if
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you're here illegally, you know you're here illegally. You don't
want people to know that you're here. So when there's
a crime done against you, you don't report it because
you're afraid you're going to be deported. So, I mean
you have to just from a human standpoint, your heart
has to break for these people. Sure because they can't
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report their being beaten up, robbed, raped, whatever, because they
don't want to be deported. But secondly, also recognize they're
not supposed to be here for their own good. They
should be deported. Then they can report all the crimes
to the people in safety.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And I know that for a long time, certainly well
before Trump. And I'm trying to remember the year. For
a long time, Greenwood County had the highest Hispanic population
for capita really in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Something peaches, I'm sorry, Does this have something to do
with peaches?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No, it had mostly to do with meat production. Plans,
and then Greenwood County did a couple of things with
their housing. In particularly, you could not once you moved
to mobile home, you could not reset it in the county.
You certainly couldn't resup. First. I think it started in
the city limits, then it started in the county. Lexington
County did the same thing. So what happened was if
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someone had a mobile home that they wanted to move
and sell, they knew they couldn't reset it in the county,
so they would go across the county line and set
it in Saluta. And then Lexington County had the same ordinance,
So then you had mobile homes literally moving in from
Greenwood and Lexington County. I don't think Newberry County had
that as a ramification for dealing with Saluta County, but
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Saluta County quickly became the largest Hispanic speaking population percentage
wise in the state. And I remember talking with not
the investigating officer, but someone from the Highway Department where
they had an unbelievably horrific tragic wreck. There was a
fifteen person passenger van that either ran a stops on
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or pulled out in front of a semi and it
was filled with Spanish speaking I'm assuming ork visa or
illegal residents. At the time of Saluta County, and one
person in the van survived and she could only speak Spanish.
The Highway Department and district and Saluted County immediately sought
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out and hired Spanish speaking interpreters to work with the
Highway Department and law enforcement and the county government itself
so that they could communicate effectively with the persons who
had either been in a traffic accident or wanted to
apply for whatever citizenship or whatever it was the county
needed to help them with. Now in Charleston it goes
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back probably as long, if not longer, because one of
the people in this article is a net Glover outreach
coordinated with the New Covenant Church of God instrumental and
efforts in North Charleston's burgeoning Latino population for more than
twenty five years, probably about the same timeframe I was referencing,
and the police department, city officials that made strides in
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building the relationship with Latino community fourteen percent they estimated
the population with regularly scheduling community members to meet with
the Hispanic community. We know that we have people who
can translate people who can communicate, and we know these
meetia has been going on for twenty five years. So
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now the article goes on to explain that because of
the ICE involvement now and the Trump administration's initiative to
have local law enforcement actually become part of the ICE
arm for deporting or otherwise ascertaining person's citizenship status, she
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claims that all of this has created confusion. Well, I
don't know where the confusion's coming, as you talked about,
because we have people who can speak Spanish and plainly
understand how to best help them if they are here
illegally and want to apply for work visa. I don't
even know if that's applicable under the Trump administration's guidelines.
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I don't believe that it is. Maybe so I know
that he had said before, we're not looking to deport
people who want to be a part of winning team.
We need great people to work, as the Democrats always
point out in landscaping and crop harvesting. But Trump went
on to talk about we need great people working our restaurants.
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If you're an incredible host or hostess or natre d
and your employer is very much happy with your work, here.
I mean, he gave you every indication that there were
places here for people who want to work and pay
taxes and be part of pursuing the American dream.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
When you were telling your story, one of the more
frustrating things in that story was that Saluda went and
hired translators, because if you're trying to become an American citizen,
part of becoming an American citizen, although English is not
the official language of America, you do have to know
English in order to become an American citizen. So you
can't be serious about trying to become an American citizen
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unless you actually are learning English. So we've made it
easy year for people to survive in a country where
they're not supposed to be by facilitating all of this. Also,
I think a good lesson for and I know that
the illegals are not listening to this podcast right now
because they wouldn't understand it. But if you are friends
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with an illegal, let them know. Don't get arrested. According
to the story, in March, there was three hundred and
twenty two people arrested in North Charleston. Twenty nine of
the three hundred and twenty two were Hispanic. Of the
twenty nine Hispanics, fifteen had ICE Holtz fifteen were in
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violation of ICE. So you not only are in violation
of ICE. People, they've been looking for you, and you
just got arrested. You're going away. You're gonna go bye bye.
Now we're going to make you, quote unquote disappear.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Most of the people by arrested by the municipal police,
more than half of them, according to the article, were
arrested in North Charleston. These were traffic A violations in
particular I mentioned here like driving without a license, driving
under the influence, and speeding accounted for a third of
the arrest in. Fractions like these are misdemeanors.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, but you're an illegal. We have an ICE has
been looking for you.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes. Now, I can't remember off the top of my head,
I remember being incensed at the State of North Carolina
where the governor, under cover of the night, and I
believe just before he exited offices office, signed a petition
or signed an ordinance or a law a statute of
some type that would allow people who did not have
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citizenship to obtain a driver's license. And his point was,
we need people to understand traffic laws in order for
them to be able to do their job. And I
think this was to protect mostly the port production plants
or otherwise meet production companies or agriculture based where these
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persons will be driving very large trucks. And I remember
being very upset with this guy. And it wasn't even
in my state, because we have people from North Carolina
coming into South Carolina driving with the North Carolina driver's license,
who I'm sure because they don't speak English, do not
understand the traffic laws well, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So that leads to the voting issue again, because there's
this big pushback on why do people have to get
registered to vote? Why can't it just be I have
a driver's license. And that's the reason I'm reading this
right now. Non US citizens can generally obtain a driver's
license in the United States if they meet certain requirements.
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In some states, undocumented immigrants are eligible, for example California.
Matter of fact, in California, you're not even allowed to
show ID to vote in certain districts. But I mean,
they've ruined the you know what a driver's license is for.
It was supposed to be a form of ID, yes
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to drive to prove that you can drive a vehicle,
but it was also supposed to double as proof of
who you are in this country, that you're here legally,
and all those types of things. That's been ruined by
a bunch of states now, and so yes, we're going
to have to have Unfortunately, we're all going to have
to probably go back and reregister to vote.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Everybody's gonna have to have some sort of photo ID
that says registered voter and all that sort of crap
because of this mess that was the Democrats as a
party has been working to create for forty years.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They've done a good job. They're not going to let
go of it now. They could smell it from here.
We almost have illegals at the polling place not showing
any identification, or if they do, it's going to be
a North Carolina driver's license or the equivalent, so that
we can finally get these people to the pole so
they can vote for us. All of this is as
plainly as we talked about yesterday, the oligarchs and the
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Democrat Party. Bernie Sanders plainly's one AOC wants to be
another one want to be able to sign up their
subservient constituency that will keep them propped up in power.
And the way for them to do that is to
add like they give a damn about you. They do
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not well.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And back to the Joe Biden I mean, how many
drugs is he going to be on today?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This is apparently it's some sort of conference. So the
conference was already sold out before they announce that Joe
Biden was coming, So it has nothing to do with
Joe Bouse.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Sitting is available.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, people will believing. And the other big featured speaker
I guess is Martin O'Malley who you remember him from
Social Security of mocking Elon Musk and saying we don't
have dead people who are getting Social Security checks. Oh
my gosh, I'll laugh it up, Martin. Apparently we do.
We've got hundreds of millions of dollars going out to
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dead people.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now you're partly right. The dead people aren't getting the check.
Yeah they're not. They're not cashing them. But somebody, Yeah,
it's in their name. I don't know if you quote
it earlier. MORGANA. Bazerra an unofficial liaison between Goose Creek
police and the city's Brazilian community said police and government
corruption in Brazil was commonplace. Okay. Part of her job,
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she says, is to educate the community to not have
that same distrust of officials here. See, Kelly, these people
have been victimized in their own country. This is why
they have to come here. Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So let me just ask, if you're here from Brazil,
what are you escaping? You're here illegally, You're you're not
a documented worker. You did not you snuck across the border,
or perhaps you took Joe Biden up on his offer
and used the app and got a first class airfare here.
I don't know how you got here, but what were
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you allegedly escaping from Brazil? Because there's no recognized human
conditions right now. There's not a war, there's not an earthquake,
there's nothing that would allow you to be here illegally.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The seas and global warming haven't overtaken reo.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No, so get your pushed back to Brazil.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
She goes on to say, it's about fear. They've got
fear for everything because they're not a citizen. Stop right
there for a seconds. That's all you needed to say,
she continues, Because they don't have a driver's license. That's
because they're not a citizen, because they don't speak English. Plainly.
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We've talked about that before. There's a lot of things,
but it's getting better. Okay, she didn't describe how it's
getting better. She runs a Portuguese language news I called
smart News, which covers issues important to the Brazilian community
in South Carolina. She submitting the community we're afraid after
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ice rate and Goose Creek Creek in January, with some
believing that the city police were involved in January. They
were not. They should have been, Yes, they should have been.
But it's it's amazing how And I want to go
back to that quote that you made earlier where she said,
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you know, we're communicating this, but they're not hearing it. Wait,
somebody came to the meeting to hear what you had
to say, and they spoke in their own language so
they could hear it. But they're not hearing what you're saying.
So do we have a problem with the interpreters we're hiring?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, she said, comprehend.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Comprehend. Okay, yeah, all right, So anyway, I.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Mean, I mean, let's just be honest with what she's saying.
We have very low IQ people who've been used and abused,
drug muled, brought across the legally, and they're here to
be voters for the Democrat Party. They don't know why
they're here, they don't know how long they're staying here.
They're very afraid of the police, they're very afraid of criminals.
They're just very scared people. They're not here legally though,
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And at the end of the day, the immigration policy
for this country, and I don't care about other countries.
I'm talking about our country needs to be who's helping who?
You don't get to come and be an American citizen.
If all it is is we're here to help you,
will help you maybe in your country, but we're not
bringing you in to suck on the teat of the
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US government. Head on home Bye.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Here's a quote from someone who hosts the podcast who
says she wouldn't characterize the increased immigration enforcement as damaging
in the relationship built between police and the community. Should
we go back and read the headline again, because that's
what that said.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, I would say that it's probably actually helping people
who are here. You're legally if you're an immigrant who's
here legally, you're probably thankful that this is happening. Now,
get them the hell out of here.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
This person continues, there's always been a gap that needed
some attention. Quote, that hurdle has always been there, it's
just now there are more obstacles that you have to
go through. End Quote. Now, she believes a sense of
uncertainty amongst the Latino community and that communication is key
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to dispelling misconceptions and distrust. Quote, we don't know what's
going to happen tomorrow. Continuing Therefore, there is fear, and
there's unknown and uncertainty. When you build a relationship on transparency,
of trust and unity, then I believe that's when the
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Latino community will feel more comfortable in opening up.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know how you get trust and unity, you become
a citizen. Right now, there's a lot of trust and unity.
I'm not I have no fear of being deported, and
it's not because I'm white. My wife is black, she
has no fear of being deported. My son is half Mexican,
he has no fear of being deported because we're residents,
we're citizens.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You don't think that Donald Trump's not going to send
you to a prison in Il Salvador.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I don't believe that this is going to be the case.
I've not heard of any American citizens being deported yet.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Many people think we should do that. I don't know what.
Take a look at it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He just loves the troll.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He throws it out like a piece of lobread on
top of a brim bed, and the media just they
just hit it like piranha. Oh. Donald Trump says he's
gonna he's gonna deport us citizens.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You got Dana Bash now has to say I have
been an employee for thirty years at CNN, and we
don't hate America.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean, she.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Didn't say she loved it either, but she doesn't hate it.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
She doesn't hate it. We got that on the record.
Thank you, Dana. Is it Dana? Dana always confusing? I
don't know. I want to make sure I'm mispronounced, so
I want to get it right. Did she work with
Jack Trapper? The problem