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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, you
remember when the bunny took Joe Biden? Now he is
not taking Trump bout Kelly Nash. There was a beautiful
moment when the bunny saved Joe Biden. Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
WOC.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would why the same people that brought you Trump
the cartoon books. They're not cartoons, they're anime. But yeah, yeah,
I guess their children illustrated books. Okay, wonder why they
haven't come out with the year that the Easter Bunny
saved Joe Biden. That should have been the Easter book
for this year, as opposed to just Donald Trump protects
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the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Books be a bigger seller than Trumpy Bear.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This Trumpy Bear. Oh hey, this is Jonathan Rush. Hello,
Kelly Nash. It is Tuesday, the twenty second, about ten
o'clock in the morning. Markets are bouncing back after yesterday's
down market, and all of the talk about remove Powell
as Treasury secretary supposedly brought that on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, look, I get the idea that we're not
going to remove him, and we probably and I don't
want to cause a constitutional crisis by removing him. But
the guy is in we'll say a jerk. I mean,
the unsaid part of what Donald Trump has been doing
is he's done all the leg work up to this
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point in order to set it up so that Powell
could lower the rates. And what he hasn't said is
if you would lower the rates, I will instantaneously refinance
the thirty six almost thirty seven trillion dollars in debt
and save the American people literally a trillion dollars if
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you will only do this one thing. And like he said,
you can set them right back up the next day
if you want. It doesn't matter as long as they're
down for a day. I just need one day to
do this, and he won't help the country. I mean,
it's just infuriating because if you just look by the metrics,
Trump's got everything where you needed to be in order
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to lower the interest rates.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All the metrics that were previously said is where we
had to hit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And Trump, I think would agree with Powell that inflation
or their form of inflation is likely to arrive coming
later on. Yeah, but you're not changing that right now.
By keeping the rates high, lower the rates save we're
trying to save America. Bro, will you be on Team
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USA or not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, Powell read the listen to Gaven Newsom God, it's infuriating,
all right, So that's going to continue today, I'm sure.
And by the way, we talked about it yesterday when
James Clybra made his appearance and I was I was corrected, well,
actually corrected myself. Cousins saw it. But he was on
La Larry O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell's The Last Word program on MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Do not do. People not allowed to call him Larry.
We got to call him Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I call him Larry, but he prefers Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm gonna call him sir Larry.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He don't want to mess with him because he was
raised on the mean streets of Boston. But he was
an ass kicker.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Who is he threatening to fight again? I forgot was
it Mitt Romney? I think it was, or no, it
was maybe one of the Trump kids.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was one of the Trump kids.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He was going to fight like Eric Trump or somebody
or Don Junior. He don't want none of this, pal No, no.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think that they the mascot of Notre Dame. Yeah,
a little fighting Irish dude. That's him. That's him as
a child, kicking ass and taking names in Boston. Got it.
So he was talking to James Clyver, and it dawned
on me the other night, because I guess yesterday late afternoon,
I should say, when I heard James Clyver talking again.
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His point was, James Cliver's point was the Democrats don't
have a messaging problem. It's just that the media refuses
to cover the Democrats and continue to spread the good news,
not the good news of Easter, the good news of
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Didn't he even go further and say that the news
outlets were now like misleading the Americans to believe some
of the far right propaganda.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, but it dawned to me. Every time James Clavering
goes to speak, his first word is yeah, you know
how to talk. And I had my back turned to
the television and I heard him starting that statement yeah,
and I'm like, he's somebody's gonna throw up. Every time
he goes to speak. It sounds like he's about to hurl.
It's like a frat party, Yeah, mack and people and
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what what was that sound? Yeah, just come from the barber,
from the buffet. What's going on over here, all right,
So that was it was Larry O'Donnell i you I
referenced yesterday, So that was where it came from. It
wasn't originated on Fox News because Neil cavudos no there,
So we got that. We got that going. So the Democrats,
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they don't have a policy problem. They don't. It's like
this whole issue that the liberal media is propagating against
the Democrats with the Garcia detention movement. We want to
spring the man out of an El Salvadore in prison.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I love the fact that Comer would not approve the
trip for the four more Morons to go down there,
and because he would not approve the trip, they all
had to pay out of their own pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Out of their campaign funds, is the way it was reported.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just saw out of their own pockets, and they
have it was kind of like a Kamikaze mission to
begin with, because they're not there. I know they're dumb,
but they're not that dumb. They can read polls sure,
and right now, literally almost ninety percent of Americans in
recent polls believe that this guy Kilmar should stay where
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he is, keep him the hell out of America.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
There's never been a poll where it was lower than
sixty seven percent of Americans, Republicans and Democrats total. Overall,
sixty seven percent of Americans believe that this is a
key word of it, criminal illegal immigrants should be deported immediately.
Now excuse me. It's seventy eight percent of the poll
of far I remember, sixty seven percent believe all illegal
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immigrants should be deported.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And you know when the Democrats are trying to convolute
the issue and make it a due process thing. The
polling I'm seeing shows what most Americans are agreeing with
what me and most Republicans are believing. He had due process.
He stood in front of not one, but two judges.
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Two judges confirmed in our estimation he's a member of
MS thirteen. Okay. Once US thirteen is then ruled as
a terrorist organization, you gots to go. So he had
due process.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know if you saw yesterday. I did happen
to I got there write in time too. It happened
to walk into the room at the right time. Will
Caine on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh yes, shredded him.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He was interviewing Representative Frost from Florida, who I.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Believe may actually be romantically interested in Kilmar. He lit
up like a little Christmas tree every time they said
his name, Oh, mister Abrago Garcia.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
As Kelly described, he walked through the whole thing, was
talking about the due process to courts where he found him.
You know, YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, yadda. You've heard the
explanation of the evidence as it was presented in court documentation.
So there is nothing to debate here. But Frost wants
you to go along with the thoughts apparently that he
had written in an op ed that appeared somewhere that
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if Trump can do this to Garcia, he can do
it to any American walk in the street today.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, he hasn't done it to an American, disappearent has
not done it to any Americans now.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And will Caatee at one point said from from my
from where I sit, Yeah, from where I sit, this
appears to be not necessarily an argument for due process,
YadA YadA YadA, but in fact a political grand standing
moment for Democrats like yourself. The response to that was
my favorite part of the interview, when he said, this
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is not about Garcia specifically, this is this is about
the American people. This is certainly not about me, William Frost.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, because there's others that will come before me
and will come after me.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But when you say it's not about me and then
you reference yourself in third person, yes, that's about me.
And he had to put his name in there because
nobody before yesterday. I'm assuming the Watchbox News know who
the hell William Frost was. Let alone could guess what
state he's a house member from. But it's not about me,
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William Frost. And to get that in there again.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The only thing he left off was the most honorable
it's not about me, the most honorable William Frost, representative
from Florida.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What a complete self worshiped, grandizing asshole.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, what a great question. Okay, So a Maryland
man who's not from Maryland is back in El Salvador,
his home country, where he's a citizen in custody of
the l Saladoran government, and you, a representative not of
Maryland or El Salvador but from Florida, have chosen to
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go there and demand that El Salvador released their citizen.
Why what what part? What are you? What part of
the story are you?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I can tell you why not not. It ain't about me,
No Frost, most honorable, No, no, no. This is about
the American people who sh be afraid to step out
of their house because of Donald J. Trump. I mean
me himself will be in the van, covered with a hoodie,
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wearing a dark outfit, waited to pull you into to
the yet to open door of a van while you
are just walking down the street, probably with your child.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's funny how everything the Democrats do is to try
to make you afraid. They just want to make you afraid.
I mean, I'm sure you watched the breaking news last
night about Harvard is now suing the Trump administration, and
not just suing the Trump administration, but suing individuals inside
the Trump administration and the I forget the exact wording
that they that they used, but I don't think I'm
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exaggerating when they said. I know, I remember them saying,
it's unconstitutional. If you don't give us the two billion,
that's unconstitutional, which is interesting that they would have written
in the Constitution Harvard gets two billion a year. And
then they said, and it's beyond the government's power to
decide who gets the money. The government, the United States
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government does not get to decide who gets the United
States money. That's not within your power, Sirs Madam's Congress,
you don't get to make that call. Who gets to
make the call? Then, I guess the forefathers put it
in stone like the Ten Commandments. Two bill a year
goes to Harvard. I don't know why, but that's what
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they did. I hadn't seen it. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's easy enough for you, Kelly Nash at three sixteen
gray Stone Boulevard, to sit here on the comfort behind
this closed door and microphone number two to make sure
that you can make your comments. But oh, would you
stand in the hallowed halls just outside of the main
entrance to the law school at Harvard and take on
the big thinkers.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The big the big thinkers. Well you had what's his face?
The former professor Dershowitz was on Newsmax last night and
they asked him about it, and he says, Oh, Harvard's
going to lose that big like they have. They literally
I even understand their lawsuit, like I don't understand from
a legal perspective.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Of course they don't say Yale graduate. Of course he
doesn't understand.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, he only spent fifty years as a professor at Harvard.
Fifty years he was a professor at Harvard, and he says,
I don't even understand it. And he says, of course,
the government can fund and choose to freeze any funding
they would like at any time, so they have no
legs to stand on there. But his bigger picture is
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he believes that this is Harvard's attempt to try to
get into a negotiation with the Trump administration, and his
estimation a third of the of the Trump demands or
the government's demands are totally legit, and Harvard's got to
give him up, he says, a third and his estimation
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might go too far against Harvard and other liberal schools.
And the other third, he finds are in a ray area,
and that's probably where Harvard wants to negotiate. And he
pointed out that the first two lawyers that Harvard hired
for this case happened to have pretty close ties to
the Trump family and an association with them, So he
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thinks we're going to see a negotiation. But he's like
if he said, and by the way, I wouldn't be
surprised if they win their original case, because it's going
to happen in a excuse me, a Massachusetts circuit court,
which is a kangaroo court. So they're going to get
whatever they want in Massachusetts, but they'll get nothing and
like it at the Supreme Court level.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Look, I understand there are a lot of things are
going on at Harvard now of the universities that the
American people genuinely would benefit from in some cases. And
I'm sure we could point to the history of that
when you start talking about medical or otherwise. But you know,
it's not that I am applauding Harvard the institution. I'm
applaud I'm applauding the minds that attend Harvard. So it's
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the student body, the person's over there with the professors,
the tenure professors, or the person's who headed the research
projects because they are on that campus. I'm you know,
I have no reason to believe that some of that
money is not well spent. I agree that it is.
But it's like you I think, he went on to
say in one of the other interviews, is that you
could very independent. You could independently fund those projects if
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you wanted to, for Harvard or other schools. If there
was a cancer research project, or what if you wanted
to take the time to make sure that that money
was actually going to go to where it should go,
as opposed to just going to the student union. But
they're going to spend all that money to print up
more antisemitic messages and whole rallies and buy blowhorns for
blowhards who want to stand there and prop up hamas well.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And that was the point I was trying to get to,
is that Harvard's president is on social media yesterday basically
saying all of America is going to die if Harvard
doesn't get their two billion dollars because we are responsible
for all of the medication in the world. We have
created everything. And I guess he's implying perhaps they can
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take it back. I don't know, like penicillin is now
no longer available or something. I don't know how he
thinks this is going to work. But we're all in
grave danger. He says, there's going to be long, serious
consequences for the American people. The average middle class American
will pay a very dear price with their quality of
life if we don't get our money.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did you say grave danger?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Is there any other kind?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So I just don't understand why they always have to
go to the scare tactics. I think at this point
it rarely works. I don't think most Americans are crapping
bricks that Harvard might not get their two billion.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, speaking of medical there's a proposed anti vaccine mandate
pulls South Carolina pharmacist into a tough position. I'm reading
for an article in the posting Courier or a pushman
lawmakers to crack down on post pandemic rules related to
vaccines and quarantine protocols could rope pharmacists into an uncomfortable position.
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You're forcing a pharmacist not to be able to do
what they're supposed to do, and that's to protect the
public from themselves. I need protection, yes, from the pharmacist,
so says Brian Clark, CEO of the South Carolina Pharmacy Association,
continuing with words of wisdom, quote, I would equate this
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into turning a pharmacy into a vending machine. There's no
protection for the patient.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So this is the Medical Informed Consent Act, which is
Shane Martin put this out here and it basically says
South Carolina cannot mandate vaccines if you're doing business in
this state. You cannot force somebody to take a vaccination.
And also that if you have a prescription, the pharmacist
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has to fulfill it, and he says, what is it again?
I would equate this into turning pharmacy into a vending machine.
And so I show up with a VACU. Look, my
doctor says I need this, And then you're saying, well,
who gives a crap what your doctor says? You get
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the final say. Why would the pharmacist have the final say. Now,
I'm not saying that the pharmacist might not have some
sort of insights that perhaps maybe I doctor shopped, perhaps
I went to two or three different doctors, which is
illegal to get prescriptions. But you're looking at my records
and you're saying, well, aren't you on this medication? And
now you want to add this to it as well.
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Those two don't interact, and that could be a fatal
combination if you take both of these within the same
month or whatever. That's good pharmacist, that's great pharmacy looking
out for you. I appreciate it. Also, not your final call.
Not your final call.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
That's going to be a phone call that they would
make to the doctor and go, hey, yeah, you're looking
on the my chart because this patient you have on
YadA YadA. You can make that call. You can say
I don't want you to have it. I want you
I'm very afraid for your well being. You've given me
the information I need to make a good decision. Maybe
you want to give my doctor a call. But you
don't get to say nope, like they did with the
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ivermectin Nope. Here's something. And I don't know if this
happens outside of because I haven't been to a pharmacy
to pick up a prescription medication from CBS in the
past month, but I did have a prescription at a
public's pharmacy, and when you go to pick it up,
there is they ask you to sign for it. But
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before you do, there are two choices. One of the
choices and the question is would you like a pharmacist consultation.
That's a rough pairaphrase. I don't know exactly what it says,
but you decline. You have to decline it in order
to sign for it without getting the consultation. Now, I
wonder if somehow that's something that happened, either from a
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lawsuit from a different stated has something to do with
what we're dealing with here. Look, I don't know, I
just noticed that. It just came to mind while you
were talking about the conversation with the pharmacist.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We had numerous cases of people getting a prescription for ivermectin,
which does which is not exclusively for horses, as they
tried to make you believe. There's been a long history
of people being prescribed ivermectin for a bunch of different things,
and you would show up and because some people and
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I'm just clicking on this right now, the National Institute
of Health, maybe I've heard of them in twenty twenty,
When is the date on this thing? Five day course
of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID nineteen may reduce
the duration of the illness, Published December two, twenty twenty.
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So the National Institute of Health, despite what the state
or who is this the posting courier, the host career,
despite what the posting courier has right here where the
FDA approves ivermectin to treat tropical parasitic diseases and even
kills lice, but not COVID nineteen. Well, the FDA and
then it goes on to say a great deal of
research has shown that the drug does not effectively treat
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COVID nineteen. Well, say go back in time five years
ago until the National Institute of Help their full of
horse crap because they said it did work. And we've
got thousands of cases of people saying that it helped them.
And on top of it, which you don't have, is
anybody saying that they had a negative reaction to ivermectin
and or they died, which you can't say that about
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the COVID vaccine. We got lots of cases of people
saying that they died or that their lives were made
immeasurably worse by the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I love your choice of words with horse crap because
if you look at the article of the posting courier,
take a look at the picture that goes with the headline.
The picture is of a ivermectin box that you can
buy on eBay or wherever Amazon for a horse prescription.
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Because and it even comes in apple flavor like your
horse loves. So that's for horses. So that goes back
to the these idiots. Trump wants you to take something
from a horse. He wants you to take a horse prescription.
That was never the case. It's being printed again today
at the Posting Courier as that is what they're propagating,
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or were, and they want you to know that no
matter what the UNI said, as Kelly pointed that in
twenty twenty, none of that is true for COVID.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And by the way, one of the options regarding this
individual drug is to make it over the counter, which
I hope they do. They should pass that as an
over the counter drug. But in the future, we don't
know what wonder drug is going to come out of someplace.
You had no idea that it was. You know, it
was like, well, no, I mean, like, you know, what
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do they call the weight loss drugs, like ozenbic or whatever,
like gl ones or whatever they're called. Like that wasn't
what they were designed for. But apparently, according to a
lot of scientists, now, oh my gosh, it really does
do some incredible things for people who are morbidly obese.
And so they're saying, like I heard Elon Musk say,
you want to curb a national health epidemic, give everybody ozempic.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Now, if the South Carolina Pharmacy association wants to pitch
a fit. Okay, did they pitch a fit. I'm remembering
a person. This is anecdotal, but true. I'm remembering a
person who had been as Kelly described, taking ivermectin for
years for whatever the particular ailment was during COVID. After
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the whole horse manure Covid horse ivermectin news articles started circulating,
she went to the pharmacy to pick up on her
regular monthly visit her ivermectin. They refused to sell it
to her, refused. She had to go to a doctor.
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He had to fight him to get her regularly prescribed ivermectim.
So I maybe they pitched the fit back then, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And maybe we've maybe we've got to change the state
law regarding the responsibility of the pharmacists because, according to
David Shirley, pharmacist and associate professor at the Medical University
of South Carolina, quote, if something goes wrong, like an overdose,
the pharmacists are held responsible. You're telling me that if
I if I'm prescribed one a day and I take
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five a day and I end up dead or in
the hospital, you're held responsible because I overdosed on it.
If that's the case, then there's something wrong with the law.
If what you're saying is you're held responsible if I
take one a day and you actually tripled the size
of the tablet, then you should be held responsible. I mean,
these people are either hiding behind the they like to
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use language that is very vague. I cannot believe we've
written a law where if I choose to use more
of the medication than I'm supposed to, that you're going
to hold the pharmacist responsible. But I also wouldn't have
believed that we would have a law in South Carolina
where if I have one beer at a restaurant, go
to my house and drink a bottle of vodka, get
on the road and kill somebody, that restaurant would be
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held responsible because they got a beigger pocket than my family.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Very true, all right, So we'll see how this continues
to shake out. As we read more about the ivermectin
horse medication that the posting courier, what's you to know?
Is part of this article somehow because it was pictured
in the headline.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, you know, we should we should salute I think
the eight senators who didn't vote to throw out Curtis
loft As yesterday, So that was Sean Bennett, Greg Hembry,
Mike Reichenbach, West Climber, Shane Martin, Jeff Zell, Thomas Corbin,
and Shane Massey. I like the way Jeff Zell wrote
about it on his Facebook page. Senator Jeff Zel says
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tonight I voted a against the removal of the state Treasurer.
I did not do so because I believe he's without fault. Rather,
I believe that the infraction does not meet the extremely
high standard necessary to undo the will of the people.
And again, we have not done this in this state
in the history I think was it two hundred and
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thirty five years or whatever the headline said. For the
first time in two hundred and plus years, South Carolina
is on the verge of removing an elected official. And
by the way, he's not the one who should be
held responsible. The two who were responsible are.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Out, yes, and they got out very quickly. And here's
the other great thing about that. To back up his statement,
Curtis Loftus has said he will run for reelection, when
previously he had said he was not. So we're going
to find out over the course of time. This brings
us back to the original acts to grind accord to
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Curtis Loftus, Yep, we're going to find out what the
will of the people is in this position going forward
with not a parallel universe, but in the exact test
of the persons involved, and then the opportunity for people
to make a choice.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm assuming I'm just guessing here. We're gonna have a
primary June of twenty twenty six is out about, so
we'll know in just over a year.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's right, I'm that one, and we'll find out of
the people who previously Curtis Loftus himself has sought out
to encourage to run for this job. So let's say
all those people decide, you know something, Curtis is right,
I do want to step in and run for this job,
and I hope they all run. I would love to
hear half of the conversation that we have, and we
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don't have half, and we don't have nearly enough so
far as the opportunity to hear, even on a televised debate,
from the people who are going to be the governor.
I would love to hear more from people as we
discern what exactly is going on, and they will be
a deep dive on this because Curtis is going to
drag it all out. And this is going to remind
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you of the original sing When did we have him
on like three weeks ago, four weeks ago. I thought
he did a great job of explaining it. Then the
money was never missing per se. It was just in
the wrong account, which is what the comptroller's job was.
So we're going to find out. And I'm glad to
hear that he's gonna be running again because I want
him to run for this position and I want him
to explain it again because we need to have more
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transparency and we also need to talk about what's the
real rub here.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, they hate him.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, you
remember when the bunny took Joe Biden? Now he is
not taking Trump bout Kelly Nash. There was a beautiful
moment when the bunny saved Joe Biden. Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
WOC.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would why the same people that brought you Trump
the cartoon books. They're not cartoons, they're anime. But yeah, yeah,
I guess their children illustrated books. Okay, wonder why they
haven't come out with the year that the Easter Bunny
saved Joe Biden. That should have been the Easter book
for this year, as opposed to just Donald Trump protects
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the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Books be a bigger seller than Trumpy Bear.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This Trumpy Bear. Oh hey, this is Jonathan Rush. Hello,
Kelly Nash. It is Tuesday, the twenty second, about ten
o'clock in the morning. Markets are bouncing back after yesterday's
down market, and all of the talk about remove Powell
as Treasury secretary supposedly brought that on.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, look, I get the idea that we're not
going to remove him, and we probably and I don't
want to cause a constitutional crisis by removing him. But
the guy is in we'll say a jerk. I mean,
the unsaid part of what Donald Trump has been doing
is he's done all the leg work up to this
(01:24):
point in order to set it up so that Powell
could lower the rates. And what he hasn't said is
if you would lower the rates, I will instantaneously refinance
the thirty six almost thirty seven trillion dollars in debt
and save the American people literally a trillion dollars if
(01:47):
you will only do this one thing. And like he said,
you can set them right back up the next day
if you want. It doesn't matter as long as they're
down for a day. I just need one day to
do this, and he won't help the country. I mean,
it's just infuriating because if you just look by the metrics,
Trump's got everything where you needed to be in order
(02:09):
to lower the interest rates.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All the metrics that were previously said is where we
had to hit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And Trump, I think would agree with Powell that inflation
or their form of inflation is likely to arrive coming
later on. Yeah, but you're not changing that right now.
By keeping the rates high, lower the rates save we're
trying to save America. Bro, will you be on Team
(02:35):
USA or not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, Powell read the listen to Gaven Newsom God, it's infuriating,
all right, So that's going to continue today, I'm sure.
And by the way, we talked about it yesterday when
James Clybra made his appearance and I was I was corrected, well,
actually corrected myself. Cousins saw it. But he was on
La Larry O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell's The Last Word program on MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Do not do. People not allowed to call him Larry.
We got to call him Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I call him Larry, but he prefers Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm gonna call him sir Larry.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He don't want to mess with him because he was
raised on the mean streets of Boston. But he was
an ass kicker.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Who is he threatening to fight again? I forgot was
it Mitt Romney? I think it was, or no, it
was maybe one of the Trump kids.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was one of the Trump kids.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He was going to fight like Eric Trump or somebody
or Don Junior. He don't want none of this, pal No, no.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think that they the mascot of Notre Dame. Yeah,
a little fighting Irish dude. That's him. That's him as
a child, kicking ass and taking names in Boston. Got it.
So he was talking to James Clyver, and it dawned
on me the other night, because I guess yesterday late afternoon,
I should say, when I heard James Clyver talking again.
(03:50):
His point was, James Cliver's point was the Democrats don't
have a messaging problem. It's just that the media refuses
to cover the Democrats and continue to spread the good news,
not the good news of Easter, the good news of
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Didn't he even go further and say that the news
outlets were now like misleading the Americans to believe some
of the far right propaganda.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, but it dawned to me. Every time James Clavering
goes to speak, his first word is yeah, you know
how to talk. And I had my back turned to
the television and I heard him starting that statement yeah,
and I'm like, he's somebody's gonna throw up. Every time
he goes to speak. It sounds like he's about to hurl.
It's like a frat party, Yeah, mack and people and
(04:42):
what what was that sound? Yeah, just come from the barber,
from the buffet. What's going on over here, all right,
So that was it was Larry O'Donnell i you I
referenced yesterday, So that was where it came from. It
wasn't originated on Fox News because Neil cavudos no there,
So we got that. We got that going. So the Democrats,
(05:07):
they don't have a policy problem. They don't. It's like
this whole issue that the liberal media is propagating against
the Democrats with the Garcia detention movement. We want to
spring the man out of an El Salvadore in prison.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I love the fact that Comer would not approve the
trip for the four more Morons to go down there,
and because he would not approve the trip, they all
had to pay out of their own pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Out of their campaign funds, is the way it was reported.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just saw out of their own pockets, and they
have it was kind of like a Kamikaze mission to
begin with, because they're not there. I know they're dumb,
but they're not that dumb. They can read polls sure,
and right now, literally almost ninety percent of Americans in
recent polls believe that this guy Kilmar should stay where
(06:03):
he is, keep him the hell out of America.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
There's never been a poll where it was lower than
sixty seven percent of Americans, Republicans and Democrats total. Overall,
sixty seven percent of Americans believe that this is a
key word of it, criminal illegal immigrants should be deported immediately.
Now excuse me. It's seventy eight percent of the poll
of far I remember, sixty seven percent believe all illegal
(06:31):
immigrants should be deported.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And you know when the Democrats are trying to convolute
the issue and make it a due process thing. The
polling I'm seeing shows what most Americans are agreeing with
what me and most Republicans are believing. He had due process.
He stood in front of not one, but two judges.
(06:53):
Two judges confirmed in our estimation he's a member of
MS thirteen. Okay. Once US thirteen is then ruled as
a terrorist organization, you gots to go. So he had
due process.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know if you saw yesterday. I did happen
to I got there write in time too. It happened
to walk into the room at the right time. Will
Caine on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh yes, shredded him.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He was interviewing Representative Frost from Florida, who I.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Believe may actually be romantically interested in Kilmar. He lit
up like a little Christmas tree every time they said
his name, Oh, mister Abrago Garcia.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
As Kelly described, he walked through the whole thing, was
talking about the due process to courts where he found him.
You know, YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, yadda. You've heard the
explanation of the evidence as it was presented in court documentation.
So there is nothing to debate here. But Frost wants
you to go along with the thoughts apparently that he
had written in an op ed that appeared somewhere that
(07:56):
if Trump can do this to Garcia, he can do
it to any American walk in the street today.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, he hasn't done it to an American, disappearent has
not done it to any Americans now.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And will Caatee at one point said from from my
from where I sit, Yeah, from where I sit, this
appears to be not necessarily an argument for due process,
YadA YadA YadA, but in fact a political grand standing
moment for Democrats like yourself. The response to that was
my favorite part of the interview, when he said, this
(08:32):
is not about Garcia specifically, this is this is about
the American people. This is certainly not about me, William Frost.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, because there's others that will come before me
and will come after me.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But when you say it's not about me and then
you reference yourself in third person, yes, that's about me.
And he had to put his name in there because
nobody before yesterday. I'm assuming the Watchbox News know who
the hell William Frost was. Let alone could guess what
state he's a house member from. But it's not about me,
(09:05):
William Frost. And to get that in there again.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The only thing he left off was the most honorable
it's not about me, the most honorable William Frost, representative
from Florida.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What a complete self worshiped, grandizing asshole.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, what a great question. Okay, So a Maryland
man who's not from Maryland is back in El Salvador,
his home country, where he's a citizen in custody of
the l Saladoran government, and you, a representative not of
Maryland or El Salvador but from Florida, have chosen to
(09:40):
go there and demand that El Salvador released their citizen.
Why what what part? What are you? What part of
the story are you?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I can tell you why not not. It ain't about me,
No Frost, most honorable, No, no, no. This is about
the American people who sh be afraid to step out
of their house because of Donald J. Trump. I mean
me himself will be in the van, covered with a hoodie,
(10:10):
wearing a dark outfit, waited to pull you into to
the yet to open door of a van while you
are just walking down the street, probably with your child.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's funny how everything the Democrats do is to try
to make you afraid. They just want to make you afraid.
I mean, I'm sure you watched the breaking news last
night about Harvard is now suing the Trump administration, and
not just suing the Trump administration, but suing individuals inside
the Trump administration and the I forget the exact wording
that they that they used, but I don't think I'm
(10:40):
exaggerating when they said. I know, I remember them saying,
it's unconstitutional. If you don't give us the two billion,
that's unconstitutional, which is interesting that they would have written
in the Constitution Harvard gets two billion a year. And
then they said, and it's beyond the government's power to
decide who gets the money. The government, the United States
(11:04):
government does not get to decide who gets the United
States money. That's not within your power, Sirs Madam's Congress,
you don't get to make that call. Who gets to
make the call? Then, I guess the forefathers put it
in stone like the Ten Commandments. Two bill a year
goes to Harvard. I don't know why, but that's what
(11:26):
they did. I hadn't seen it. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's easy enough for you, Kelly Nash at three sixteen
gray Stone Boulevard, to sit here on the comfort behind
this closed door and microphone number two to make sure
that you can make your comments. But oh, would you
stand in the hallowed halls just outside of the main
entrance to the law school at Harvard and take on
the big thinkers.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The big the big thinkers. Well you had what's his face?
The former professor Dershowitz was on Newsmax last night and
they asked him about it, and he says, Oh, Harvard's
going to lose that big like they have. They literally
I even understand their lawsuit, like I don't understand from
a legal perspective.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Of course they don't say Yale graduate. Of course he
doesn't understand.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, he only spent fifty years as a professor at Harvard.
Fifty years he was a professor at Harvard, and he says,
I don't even understand it. And he says, of course,
the government can fund and choose to freeze any funding
they would like at any time, so they have no
legs to stand on there. But his bigger picture is
(12:31):
he believes that this is Harvard's attempt to try to
get into a negotiation with the Trump administration, and his
estimation a third of the of the Trump demands or
the government's demands are totally legit, and Harvard's got to
give him up, he says, a third and his estimation
(12:53):
might go too far against Harvard and other liberal schools.
And the other third, he finds are in a ray area,
and that's probably where Harvard wants to negotiate. And he
pointed out that the first two lawyers that Harvard hired
for this case happened to have pretty close ties to
the Trump family and an association with them, So he
(13:15):
thinks we're going to see a negotiation. But he's like
if he said, and by the way, I wouldn't be
surprised if they win their original case, because it's going
to happen in a excuse me, a Massachusetts circuit court,
which is a kangaroo court. So they're going to get
whatever they want in Massachusetts, but they'll get nothing and
like it at the Supreme Court level.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Look, I understand there are a lot of things are
going on at Harvard now of the universities that the
American people genuinely would benefit from in some cases. And
I'm sure we could point to the history of that
when you start talking about medical or otherwise. But you know,
it's not that I am applauding Harvard the institution. I'm
applaud I'm applauding the minds that attend Harvard. So it's
(13:56):
the student body, the person's over there with the professors,
the tenure professors, or the person's who headed the research
projects because they are on that campus. I'm you know,
I have no reason to believe that some of that
money is not well spent. I agree that it is.
But it's like you I think, he went on to
say in one of the other interviews, is that you
could very independent. You could independently fund those projects if
(14:18):
you wanted to, for Harvard or other schools. If there
was a cancer research project, or what if you wanted
to take the time to make sure that that money
was actually going to go to where it should go,
as opposed to just going to the student union. But
they're going to spend all that money to print up
more antisemitic messages and whole rallies and buy blowhorns for
blowhards who want to stand there and prop up hamas well.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And that was the point I was trying to get to,
is that Harvard's president is on social media yesterday basically
saying all of America is going to die if Harvard
doesn't get their two billion dollars because we are responsible
for all of the medication in the world. We have
created everything. And I guess he's implying perhaps they can
(15:01):
take it back. I don't know, like penicillin is now
no longer available or something. I don't know how he
thinks this is going to work. But we're all in
grave danger. He says, there's going to be long, serious
consequences for the American people. The average middle class American
will pay a very dear price with their quality of
life if we don't get our money.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did you say grave danger?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Is there any other kind?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So I just don't understand why they always have to
go to the scare tactics. I think at this point
it rarely works. I don't think most Americans are crapping
bricks that Harvard might not get their two billion.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, speaking of medical there's a proposed anti vaccine mandate
pulls South Carolina pharmacist into a tough position. I'm reading
for an article in the posting Courier or a pushman
lawmakers to crack down on post pandemic rules related to
vaccines and quarantine protocols could rope pharmacists into an uncomfortable position.
(16:00):
You're forcing a pharmacist not to be able to do
what they're supposed to do, and that's to protect the
public from themselves. I need protection, yes, from the pharmacist,
so says Brian Clark, CEO of the South Carolina Pharmacy Association,
continuing with words of wisdom, quote, I would equate this
(16:24):
into turning a pharmacy into a vending machine. There's no
protection for the patient.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So this is the Medical Informed Consent Act, which is
Shane Martin put this out here and it basically says
South Carolina cannot mandate vaccines if you're doing business in
this state. You cannot force somebody to take a vaccination.
And also that if you have a prescription, the pharmacist
(16:52):
has to fulfill it, and he says, what is it again?
I would equate this into turning pharmacy into a vending machine.
And so I show up with a VACU. Look, my
doctor says I need this, And then you're saying, well,
who gives a crap what your doctor says? You get
(17:14):
the final say. Why would the pharmacist have the final say. Now,
I'm not saying that the pharmacist might not have some
sort of insights that perhaps maybe I doctor shopped, perhaps
I went to two or three different doctors, which is
illegal to get prescriptions. But you're looking at my records
and you're saying, well, aren't you on this medication? And
now you want to add this to it as well.
(17:36):
Those two don't interact, and that could be a fatal
combination if you take both of these within the same
month or whatever. That's good pharmacist, that's great pharmacy looking
out for you. I appreciate it. Also, not your final call.
Not your final call.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
That's going to be a phone call that they would
make to the doctor and go, hey, yeah, you're looking
on the my chart because this patient you have on
YadA YadA. You can make that call. You can say
I don't want you to have it. I want you
I'm very afraid for your well being. You've given me
the information I need to make a good decision. Maybe
you want to give my doctor a call. But you
don't get to say nope, like they did with the
(18:16):
ivermectin Nope. Here's something. And I don't know if this
happens outside of because I haven't been to a pharmacy
to pick up a prescription medication from CBS in the
past month, but I did have a prescription at a
public's pharmacy, and when you go to pick it up,
there is they ask you to sign for it. But
(18:37):
before you do, there are two choices. One of the
choices and the question is would you like a pharmacist consultation.
That's a rough pairaphrase. I don't know exactly what it says,
but you decline. You have to decline it in order
to sign for it without getting the consultation. Now, I
wonder if somehow that's something that happened, either from a
(18:59):
lawsuit from a different stated has something to do with
what we're dealing with here. Look, I don't know, I
just noticed that. It just came to mind while you
were talking about the conversation with the pharmacist.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We had numerous cases of people getting a prescription for ivermectin,
which does which is not exclusively for horses, as they
tried to make you believe. There's been a long history
of people being prescribed ivermectin for a bunch of different things,
and you would show up and because some people and
(19:30):
I'm just clicking on this right now, the National Institute
of Health, maybe I've heard of them in twenty twenty,
When is the date on this thing? Five day course
of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID nineteen may reduce
the duration of the illness, Published December two, twenty twenty.
(19:53):
So the National Institute of Health, despite what the state
or who is this the posting courier, the host career,
despite what the posting courier has right here where the
FDA approves ivermectin to treat tropical parasitic diseases and even
kills lice, but not COVID nineteen. Well, the FDA and
then it goes on to say a great deal of
research has shown that the drug does not effectively treat
(20:14):
COVID nineteen. Well, say go back in time five years
ago until the National Institute of Help their full of
horse crap because they said it did work. And we've
got thousands of cases of people saying that it helped them.
And on top of it, which you don't have, is
anybody saying that they had a negative reaction to ivermectin
and or they died, which you can't say that about
(20:34):
the COVID vaccine. We got lots of cases of people
saying that they died or that their lives were made
immeasurably worse by the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I love your choice of words with horse crap because
if you look at the article of the posting courier,
take a look at the picture that goes with the headline.
The picture is of a ivermectin box that you can
buy on eBay or wherever Amazon for a horse prescription.
(21:04):
Because and it even comes in apple flavor like your
horse loves. So that's for horses. So that goes back
to the these idiots. Trump wants you to take something
from a horse. He wants you to take a horse prescription.
That was never the case. It's being printed again today
at the Posting Courier as that is what they're propagating,
(21:25):
or were, and they want you to know that no
matter what the UNI said, as Kelly pointed that in
twenty twenty, none of that is true for COVID.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And by the way, one of the options regarding this
individual drug is to make it over the counter, which
I hope they do. They should pass that as an
over the counter drug. But in the future, we don't
know what wonder drug is going to come out of someplace.
You had no idea that it was. You know, it
was like, well, no, I mean, like, you know, what
(21:55):
do they call the weight loss drugs, like ozenbic or whatever,
like gl ones or whatever they're called. Like that wasn't
what they were designed for. But apparently, according to a
lot of scientists, now, oh my gosh, it really does
do some incredible things for people who are morbidly obese.
And so they're saying, like I heard Elon Musk say,
you want to curb a national health epidemic, give everybody ozempic.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Now, if the South Carolina Pharmacy association wants to pitch
a fit. Okay, did they pitch a fit. I'm remembering
a person. This is anecdotal, but true. I'm remembering a
person who had been as Kelly described, taking ivermectin for
years for whatever the particular ailment was during COVID. After
(22:40):
the whole horse manure Covid horse ivermectin news articles started circulating,
she went to the pharmacy to pick up on her
regular monthly visit her ivermectin. They refused to sell it
to her, refused. She had to go to a doctor.
(23:02):
He had to fight him to get her regularly prescribed ivermectim.
So I maybe they pitched the fit back then, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And maybe we've maybe we've got to change the state
law regarding the responsibility of the pharmacists because, according to
David Shirley, pharmacist and associate professor at the Medical University
of South Carolina, quote, if something goes wrong, like an overdose,
the pharmacists are held responsible. You're telling me that if
I if I'm prescribed one a day and I take
(23:33):
five a day and I end up dead or in
the hospital, you're held responsible because I overdosed on it.
If that's the case, then there's something wrong with the law.
If what you're saying is you're held responsible if I
take one a day and you actually tripled the size
of the tablet, then you should be held responsible. I mean,
these people are either hiding behind the they like to
(23:57):
use language that is very vague. I cannot believe we've
written a law where if I choose to use more
of the medication than I'm supposed to, that you're going
to hold the pharmacist responsible. But I also wouldn't have
believed that we would have a law in South Carolina
where if I have one beer at a restaurant, go
to my house and drink a bottle of vodka, get
on the road and kill somebody, that restaurant would be
(24:18):
held responsible because they got a beigger pocket than my family.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Very true, all right, So we'll see how this continues
to shake out. As we read more about the ivermectin
horse medication that the posting courier, what's you to know?
Is part of this article somehow because it was pictured
in the headline.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, you know, we should we should salute I think
the eight senators who didn't vote to throw out Curtis
loft As yesterday, So that was Sean Bennett, Greg Hembry,
Mike Reichenbach, West Climber, Shane Martin, Jeff Zell, Thomas Corbin,
and Shane Massey. I like the way Jeff Zell wrote
about it on his Facebook page. Senator Jeff Zel says
(24:59):
tonight I voted a against the removal of the state Treasurer.
I did not do so because I believe he's without fault. Rather,
I believe that the infraction does not meet the extremely
high standard necessary to undo the will of the people.
And again, we have not done this in this state
in the history I think was it two hundred and
(25:19):
thirty five years or whatever the headline said. For the
first time in two hundred and plus years, South Carolina
is on the verge of removing an elected official. And
by the way, he's not the one who should be
held responsible. The two who were responsible are.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Out, yes, and they got out very quickly. And here's
the other great thing about that. To back up his statement,
Curtis Loftus has said he will run for reelection, when
previously he had said he was not. So we're going
to find out over the course of time. This brings
us back to the original acts to grind accord to
(25:54):
Curtis Loftus, Yep, we're going to find out what the
will of the people is in this position going forward
with not a parallel universe, but in the exact test
of the persons involved, and then the opportunity for people
to make a choice.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm assuming I'm just guessing here. We're gonna have a
primary June of twenty twenty six is out about, so
we'll know in just over a year.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's right, I'm that one, and we'll find out of
the people who previously Curtis Loftus himself has sought out
to encourage to run for this job. So let's say
all those people decide, you know something, Curtis is right,
I do want to step in and run for this job,
and I hope they all run. I would love to
hear half of the conversation that we have, and we
(26:41):
don't have half, and we don't have nearly enough so
far as the opportunity to hear, even on a televised debate,
from the people who are going to be the governor.
I would love to hear more from people as we
discern what exactly is going on, and they will be
a deep dive on this because Curtis is going to
drag it all out. And this is going to remind
(27:03):
you of the original sing When did we have him
on like three weeks ago, four weeks ago. I thought
he did a great job of explaining it. Then the
money was never missing per se. It was just in
the wrong account, which is what the comptroller's job was.
So we're going to find out. And I'm glad to
hear that he's gonna be running again because I want
him to run for this position and I want him
to explain it again because we need to have more
(27:25):
transparency and we also need to talk about what's the
real rub here.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, they hate him.
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