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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in twenty sixteen, just thirty eight percent of voters
wanted the government that had tried at the port all
eleven million undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Compared to where we are in.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Twenty twenty five, fifty six.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Percent the majority. And I think that's a big part
of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying the country
is on the right track.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Kelly Nash serves as a volunteer in the public school system.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
She went for her routine checkup with ISIS and she
never made it home. The Jonathan and Kelly Show, w
dooc these House members that are going all over now,
they're all over now, Kelly, forget about just chasing down
to O Salvador. Okay, there's like ten of them showed
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up in Louisiana yesterday at a facility where they're housing
some of the deportees soon to be deportees. I guess
we've got tom in temporary housing now to go with
their temporary legal status. But the Congressman, Troy Carter, I
believe is his name, never heard of him before Louisiana,
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bragging about that poor girl who has pulled off the streets.
She was doing everything. She was a perfect citizen, and
according to the congressman, she even made her regularly scheduled
appointments with isis.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Made the wait a minute appointments.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well who isis? Is what the man said. But I
heard him say it yesterday or last night. I'm bit
wait a minute, what did he say? So I had
to go back and listen to it again, he says, plainly,
as I just played for you. She did her regular
check as with isis. Goodness, did you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
See the interview with the wife of the fine Maryland
man that what's his name? The former New York giant
who's now on Good Morning America had Oh you know
the guy? Yeah, straight Michael Strahan. Yes, and that was
the most uncomfortable. Aw did anybody prepare her? I know
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that she's being pushed out there by the Democrats, but
you know, he was like, you know, the government's claiming
that your husband's a member of MS thirteen? Is your
husband a fact a member of MS thirteen? Dead silence
for about three seconds, eyes darting all over the place. No,
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oh my god, I see that. Yeah. Then it was like, well,
and I have to ask this hard question as well.
You know you you filed a complaint against your husband
for spousal abuse. Were you in fact afraid for your
well being at that time? That was probably five seconds
of dead air, and then I have all I've said
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all I'm saying on that. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's even more awkward than the interview that Pocahontas had.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Can we get We'll keep our fight up for the
good fine Maryland dad of the father of the years.
Let's get him back. His wife looks scared the death
of him.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The Democrats absolutely positively are demonstrating to the American people
and I realized Democrats are Democrats. They're going to vote
for you just because you're a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And if you get the majority of Democrats or the
majority of voters happen to be Democrats, you're gonna win.
We correlate that to David Pasco later in this podcast
if we'd like, and put it in South Carolina terms.
But they absolutely positively are showing you the Democrats no
matter what the guy from CNN says about the deportation
polling numbers that American Democrats plainly want. Then look, we
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didn't go out of our way to turn our blind
eye to the damn border for four years with incompetent
Joe Biden to get all these people here only to
have Donald Trump send them back home. We're not going
to have him send them back home. We're going to
keep them here, make sure they vote.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm trying to remember who said it. They were talking
about if Trump was to was allowed to deport them,
and this is like a congress person talking and they
were like, then they end up in a judicial black
hole where they might not ever be able to get back.
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Is that a problem? Is that a problem? So it
was It might even been the judge. I'm thinking now
that it was a judge who said that, and it
was because you saw that they put a twenty one
day time limit. Now, so we're using what's the name
of the act that they're using from the eighteen hundreds
that they're all pissed off about.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Enemies Act.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, so, and the reason for that is somebody has
been declared an enemy of the country and they are
to be immediately deported before they can do any damage. Well,
this district judge, I think yesterday says, well, before you
can deport them, they need a twenty one day, heads
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up before you can deport them each in, every.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
One of them, because that give them a sporting chance.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Which obviously defeats the entire purpose of the We're trying
to deport them before they can do any harm to
the country. And then they use the phrase they if
they're outside of the country, they end up in a
legal black hole where they might not be able to
get back. They're declared enemies of the country. You don't
get there is no more due process and no there is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
A military judicial process.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You are not you are not a citizen of this country.
That's check number one. But you've become check number two
when you are a known associate and or declared member
of something that we called a terrorist group, like what's
his name, Congressman Dippity do doing the daily checksans with ISIS.
If you say you are a member of ISIS, you
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will be deported.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Actually she was charged of being a HABBA supporter. Checking
in with isis. This guy, this moron is running the
d throne. Johnson from George just being the most stupid
man to serve in Congress checks in with ISIS.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't know. Capsize is always going to remember one
for it. That is really hard. I mean, we didn't
even we didn't even supplant surplass him. When what's her
face said? Do they still have the US flag on Mars?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That that poor woman, God rest her soul. We lost her.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That was Barbara Lee?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm ting to remember her name?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes, Congressman Lee. Can you take the rover over to
where we put the flag on Mars? Oh, Mars? These
people are too stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How did it?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh? My god? All right, we'll get back to that
later on because I want to talk about the David
Pascal situation here in South Carolina. Hey, this is Jonathan
Rushers Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh, we didn't grinned great ourselves. I'm sorry. Hello, Jonathan,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
For being here on the podcast. If somebody was asking
me the other day said, how should podcast doing us? Said,
you know, we do. Okay, It's just the people in
South Carolina really don't give a damn about South Carolina politics,
and this is why the General Assembly is worse than
the swamp in DC.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We try to make it fun and lighthearted. This is
really our mission on this show. We're not trying to
give you like deep thoughts, serious analysis. We're trying to
point and laugh at the hypocrisy the idiocy of politics
nationally and more importantly locally, so that you know what's
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going on. You know, Rhino Hunt twenty twenty five is on.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh my gosh, and we want to get to that
later on. About this thing today and I wanted to
talk about it, Well, we got so many things, it's
really tough to pick what we're gonna use as our
rash thought of the day. Nancy Mace could not be
denied after the video that she put out. That just
couldn't be proudly So let's just go ahead and talk
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about that. They don't want to get to the headline.
That really just when you look at South Carolina News,
then you look at the perspective of South Carolina News,
and then you read the actual story, which apparently no
South Carolinian does because you'd end up canceling your subscription
to the person that you say is your news source.
But Nancy mays in this now infamous video she put out,
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but the guy in the makeup section or Kelly says
it was an actual makeup store.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's the Alta in Mount Pleasant there at the
town Center.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So he asked her, ask her about having more town
halls because all the Republicans are getting pushed back from
the local news. You've heard this on the national These
Republicans are afraid to show them to talk to the
constituents because they're so far out of control with the
Trump administration, and they're they're not only going to stop
your solid security checks so to come claw back all
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the money they sent you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, did you see the one with Byron Donald's
the other day? That was very odd. I don't unders
stand why, and maybe you can do this. Why Byron
Donald's doesn't say if you continue to interrupt me, you're
going to be removed from the hall. We have security
here to do just that. So you're booing and I'm
not even allowed to speak. That's the majority of the
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people here want to hear what I have to say.
That's why they're here, and we will take questions. But
you're not going to just stand here and tell me
to go f myself and scream over me.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I'm not going to get into a pisson match.
So I can pay you more than George Soros's organization
paid you to be here to boom me to begin with, Yeah,
so just punch your clock at the door, go home,
take your paycheck, and get out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I, you know what, I might be more in
the middle on that scenario, because I do believe that
there are plenty of liberals who don't need a paycheck
to go do this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I hear a lot of right wing people saying, you know,
they're paying these people to be there. I don't necessarily
believe that. I think that if you went into Charleston,
you can find some very disgruntled Democrats who are very
upset with things, are going.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Find goodwilled South Carolina citizens who only watch these six
thirty national news Okay, and they're just it's not that
they're stupid, it's just they're uninformed. The real Trump has
never said, nor has he made any indication, or is
anybody as Trump administration made any indication that Social Security
checks are going to be halted, that Social Security is
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going to be defunded, that they're going to doze and
totally eliminate social Security. None of that's ever been said.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They have said they'd like to actually increase payments to
the senior citizens.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And they have said they would like to make it
tax free.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes, they have said that, but that's not the story.
The story is that Elon Musk wants your Social Security
numbers so he can raid your bank account.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, and people believe it. But why because we've always
believed the National News. Your friends down the street, I
got some totally good people totally understand it, some of
them incredibly smart people.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That might be the answer for older people, but it
certainly it can't be the answer for if you're under forty.
If you're under forty, there's never been a time in
your life that people trusted the National News.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, okay, so Nancy Base now in her own video
that she put out very boastfully, brio may be the word.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh that was our word of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
On the other show, reminded the well moisturized constituent.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's self described well moisturized, maybe an invitation for you
to test him. Maybe if well groomed, you want to
test how moisturized he is, Johnathan, it could be an invitation.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I don't think he's interested in me getting that close
to him, nor I him.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You don't think he would be interested in you?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You're a good looking man. I don't think he might
not like the results of you getting close to him.
I'm not saying that he would.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
She trying to be related and show because Twitzy services
very bosfully borned out does she voted for Game ariage twice.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
See now, I think that that's where she was getting irritated.
And again I understand our Republicans are very sensitive now
to this town hall thing. We've seen numerous ones go
haywire because of the Democrats just standing there taking over
the things. But this is he did not appear Although
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he does appear to be gay, he did not appear
to be hostile. In the video she shopping in the alta,
he approaches and apparently starts asking about town halls. I
guess he has a video of it. She has a
video of it, and then there's several other shoppers. But
you know, obviously her version of it and several other
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people's versions of it are going to start after the
confrontation has began. But from his version, he does not
sound hostile when he says I'm wondering, when are you
going to do some town hall But she took that
immediately and escalated it and said I'm trying to find
her actual response to that, where she was saying, I've
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done plenty of town halls last year, and he said,
I didn't ask about last year's town halls. I'm wondering
about when are you doing some future town halls? And
she says, well, you could have gone to a dozen
town halls last year. Again, I'm asking you, are you
doing any this year? And she said, I have done something,
I'm planning to do plenty more, and you're always invited.
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So she's in a very irritated state. Then throws in,
unprompted by the way, I voted for gay marriage twice,
And he said, what the hell does that have to
do with me? You think everything about me has to
do with gay marriage? And then she said, I do absolutely.
If you want to get in my face about town halls,
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you should have shown up last year. So again you've
pointed out what is it? Your IQ drops how many points?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well, the internet's a little bit scattered on this. Some
internet reports say fifteen to twenty. I heard a psychologist
one time say forty. Now that's the most that's the
most aggressive I've heard. But it seems to be on
average about twenty to twenty five points. It's what your
IQ drops. Now. I don't know where she started on
that scale, but if you drop it twenty five you
get to the FU, which is what it turned into.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, she says, where were you before that or the
year before that? Or because you know what, because you
people on the left are crazy, You're absolutely expletive crazy,
and get out of my face. And he laughed and said,
you're insane. I'm not in your face.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And then she said goodbye, and another curse was thrown in.
And so I think that a part of this is
she was upset, and when you're upset, like you said,
you don't really think clearly about what you're saying, and
some of it you'd like to take back. I'm the
part that I'm really wondering about is you want to
allegedly apparently quite likely want to run for governor of
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South Carolina. Yes, and apparent was she in like North
Augusta last night? That's obviously not your area. So why
are you in North Augusta if you're representing District one?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's Joe Wilson Steel Magnolia's Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, that's Joe Wilson's territory. But you're there, and is
it your intention to run on the I have voted
twice for gay marriage.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is that because that's an interesting strategy, Cotton.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not talking about general election now, I'm talking GOP primary. Yes,
I mean that does not seem to endear you to
a lot of Southern Baptists.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, speaking to town halls, James Clyburn has on his tour,
he's in parts that he does not represent. He was
at Wafford. I guess so yesterday is he running for governor?
Maybe he's going to switch to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Life, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
James Clyburn, who I'm sure started some of these very
interesting quotes with his ever popular Yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Jonathan Rush imitation of James Clyburn will never get hold.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar.
And he's talking about how you need to be you
need to encourage your neighbors. He urged anxious supporters to
continue resisting, but do it respectfully and encourage your neighbors.
He'll bring them about to the truth. This is why
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he's on his listing tour. But he does speak, and
they speak about William Timmans want to know where he
was because apparently he won't show up for, according to them,
a town hall, and Timmans said, these so called town
halls are nothing more than stage pep rallies for political agendas.
I'm focused on delivering Trump's America First agenda, not performative gatherings,
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which is what he called James Clyburn's appearance to Florence Well.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I would have to say, James Kyburn, first, did he
say you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar?
We said, you actually catch the most flies with bs,
which is exactly what he's throwing around here, a lot
of bs trying to catch flies. He knows dang well
that nobody wants right now or in my memories, wants
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to reach across an aisle. It's it's political suicide to
reach across the aisle. Now he's saying the Democrats need
to encourage Republicans. I guess that's who he's addressing here,
You need to reach across He's not encouraging Republicans to
try to woo the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Democrats of our Democrats must try to change the minds
of their neighbors who voted for Trump. That Americans should
turn to each other, not own each other.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, and the Democrats currently have I think it was
a twenty one percent approval rating something like that. So
why would anybody listen to a Democrat? At this point?
You are you are literally you are sprinting to the
ash heap of history. You are about to be deplatformed.
The entire Democrat Party will be whoever the next Whigs are.
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They're planning their revolution to overtake the Democrats and rebrand
it pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He reminds you of the listening tour as he speaks,
just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to be disagreeable.
I want to remind you that this is a great
country and has no need of being made great. And
then he goes on, as we talked about earlier, to
propagate the lie that Trump's going to take away your
social Security and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You need to Yeah, America has been a great country
and in many aspects remains a great country even when
Sleepy Joe is at the helm. However, make America great again.
I don't think we need to explain this to the audience.
Has very little to do with changing much other than
just implementing the laws that are already on the books.
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We can do anything and everything as long as we
follow the laws that are currently on the books. We
have these active as judges who are reinterpreting the law
right now. That's what's happening again. We're just talking about
it a second ago. You've got an Enemies Act that
says if you are found to be an enemy of
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the United States, meaning you have sworn allegiance to or
are found to have participated with an enemy group of
this country, you can be deported a need to be
deported immediately. You have somehow interpreted that to mean they
need a twenty one day notice so that they can
then get due process in the courts. That is insane
and nowhere near the law.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, and I want to point out I wanted to
talk about the headline. The headline here and this one
is coming from the Posting Courier. Not to say that
the Posting Courier writes misleading headlines so than the State
or WYS or WOTX or any other of these local
TV or newspapers who are now owned by Corporate America
who claim to be your hometown newspaper. And matter of fact,
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I'll actually salute the Posting Courier, the State News newspaper,
and what used to be the afternoon edition called the Record.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Because they're a lot of business. I don't remember the
Record like in the seventies. Oh okay, that's why I
wouldn't even know.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
The state newspaper was the Record was the newspaper of
record for the state of South Carolina. Well, the Posting
Couriers kick their ass right off the curb.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
The deeper pockets, I guess, right. The State newspaper is
down to nothing. There's there's like four people wandering around
trying to just copy and paste what the Posting Courier wrote.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Right, yeah, exactly. And the Greenville News I think, you know,
I think probably the Greenville News is a pretty good newspaper.
But the Posting Courier is already going up to Greenville
starting to take their take money off the table there
as well, and they're buying up every small town newspaper
worth having. They're not getting their lunch newspapers now owned
by the Posting Courier. They're not eating their lunch, but
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they are having their breakfast. It'd be moving on to
lunch next. So the headline was as State House Republicans
revived plans to slash taxes for the wealthy. Comma, those
are the plans. Some ask why, let's just skim through
this article real quick, and then I'll show you how
why I would never be hired to write a headline
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for the Posting Courier. State House Republicans reviving contentious proposal.
State fiscal analysts say in their plan, it would slash
taxes for the wealthy, while low and middle class owners
would see increases. Now, I'm not saying there isn't some
truth in the statistical study in that one Republican questioned
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whether a shift to a single flat tax income rate,
which would be great, is necessary, particularly given the lack
of evidence that the status quo is actually hurting the
state's prosperity. So you've got members in the Ways and
Means Committee saying, wait minute, why are we doing anything here?
We're doing great as a state.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Look, I would say, who said that? A Republican?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, it doesn't say which one. Because members of the
House Ways and Means Committee convened in April twenty second,
yesterday to discuss the proposal, Some members, including one Republican,
question whether it's shift to a flat tax income rate
is necessary, particularly given a lack of evidence a status
quoi is actually hurting the state's prosperity.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I would say South Carolina continues to thrive in spite
of our current tax policies, in spite of our current
education down falls, and in spite of our current road troubles. Yes,
we are thriving. We would be thriving significantly more. We
should be, I mean literally, we should be out performing
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person to person North Carolina and Georgia and Tennessee, and
yet we do not. We are behind all three of
those states.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Dial proposal, what we read about in the paper and
talked about on this podcast before and even a rash thought,
would consolidated the state's progressive, three tiered income tax structure
to a flat rate of three point nine to nine
percent for all taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So yeah, I was to say, when you talk about
the flat tax, the pushback and I'll just read it
to you from these loonies on the left. I know
that because I can look at their haircuts, which are
also half purple in it. In short, a flat tax
is one where every taxpayer pays the exact same percentage
of their income. Yes, that is a problem, and it
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appeals to the wealthy. A flat tax guarantees that wealthy
families tax bill will be a lower share of their
income than that paid by families of more modest means.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And the lower share plainly flies into the face of
what their fair share. Joe Biden would remind you.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's that's exactly right, Jonathan. They don't want you to
the same as everybody else. That's not what we want.
We wanted to redistribute wealth.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
According to a fiscal note on the bill filed earlier
this month, the Republican's tax plane would actually increase taxes
about hundreds of dollars for approximately six percent of the earners.
And we talked about that earlier. While some of the
benefits of the tax cut would be felt by the
very rich. Now, the Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bruce Banished,
a Republican Greenville described described as an opportunity for members
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to listen and learn about possible alternatives to the original
bill after constituents express concerns about the original bill. So
if you ever wondered whether your phone call to the
General Assembly makes a difference, it does. What quickly became
clear was that moving to a flat tax would be
very difficult to accomplish with only three weeks left in
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the session. That is an absolute camouflage line. That means
we're not going to do it. While South Carolina is
one of the top income rates in the Southeast, it's
paid by only the state's highest earners with few other
avenues to fund the government.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Again, we looked that up the other day. The state's
highest earners or anybody making over was it sixteen thousand
a year. It was something like that. It was like
it was some unbelievably low number.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It was a low number with other avenues. With few
other avenues to fund the government, South Carolina allows heavily
on the income tax bills to pay its bills. Forty
five percent of the revenues were derived from income taxes,
and most of those receipts, approximately sixty three percent, are
covered by the state's top ten percent of earners. This
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is why we're starting to have more conversations about a casino,
because we're going to find a way to generate more
money if you're going to bring about a flat tax.
While South Carolina's been experiencing surpluses for what five years now,
we've got some room, but apparently not enough.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, a lot of that start.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Cutting back on the tea and the firefighters.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Look, a lot of that surplus had to do with
COVID money that was coming into the state, and it
also has to do I saw yesterday Alan Wilson's office
put out a thing. We got like another amazing check
from the tobacco settlement lawsuit from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, we get that every year.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah not forever though. So we got six hundred and
forty million this year, we got seven hundred and ten
million the year before. It is starting to wind down now.
So again I get the fact that we have surpluses.
Those aren't going to last forever. But you know, for
some group of individuals who wants everything to be fair
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and you're talking about the top ten percent, they just
admitted it. What did they ever say something about the
top ten percent paid the fact.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Of today by the top ten percent.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So they're not so that's not enough to them, or
they just don't want to change it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Lawmakers could simply slash the top rate, but that would
cost hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars from
the state budget. Keep taxes affordable and mitigate the impact
of the budget. Ball Makers instead have proposed broadening or
flattening the tax base, a shift to one single tax
rate that would both cut taxes on the wealthy while
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increasing taxes on lower income earners. And we know that'd
be true because we also know there is a huge
majority of people here. We're going to get down to
forty four percent who currently pays zero zero. Forty four
percent in this state pays zero for any state offerings,
and then it goes through. There's three different scenarios on
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the table having to do with reducing it to three
point nine nine, then one lightly higher at four point
seventy four, and then another one at five point four nine.
You can read all that in the newspaper if you like.
It's pretty much the way you imagine mathematically. You could
see it shake out in such a way that we
still get down to the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Again, if you have a flat tax, is a user tax,
well use it, But wouldn't it also be this I
would think would bring great comfort to them, because they're
the ones who've pointed out Warren Buffett does not pay
as much taxes as his secretary. The rich have dodged
(28:16):
their taxes forever, according to these idiots. So if Warren
Buffett pays less tax than his secretary, wouldn't it be
nice if at least we could get Warren to pay
as much as his secretary. You would think that would
be a good thing. And by the way, the goal
is flipping zero, guys. It's not to get it to
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six or three or two or one percent. The actual
goal is no income tax, zero like they got in Alaska, Florida, Nevada,
New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Wyoming. We don't want
to pay income tax because we want to attract more
people here. And the less you pay in taxes, the
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more freedom there is for the people who live there.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But see, the lingering question remains why anything is needed
at all. South Caler remains one of the fastest growing
states in the Union. It ranks amongst the top fifteenth
states in the country in GDP growth. Todd Rutherford says,
if we're competing for people, we're certainly winning. We're winning.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's hard to argue with ignorant people, but I will
here's the problem. America is failing. Right we're talking when
you're talking about making America great again, and we mentioned
this at the beginning of this podcast. America, there's a
lot of things to say. It is great. Even under
Sleepy Joe was still great. However, America, with its thirty
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six and a half trillion dollar deficit, it's not because
we don't tax people enough in this country. In other words,
as a matter of fact, if you taxed all of
us one hundred percent, we'd still come up short. We
do not have enough money in this country to anything
in taxes. How's that sound, guys? And the reality of
it is, the government must stop its spending and we're
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going to lose the country. We are the poorest nation
on earth. We've been the poorest nation on earth since
Barack Obama became the president. He's the one who drove
us into debt. Other presidents obviously overspent as well, including
Bill Clinton, who I know they love to say he
had one year of a balanced budget, one year based
off of an incredible surplus brought in by the dot
(30:30):
com boom of the late nineties. Other than that, he
also had deficit spending, and every other president Reagan had
deficit spending. And that's that's my god. I put my
god up there on the cross too. Yes, Reagan was wrong,
but we're talking about when Reagan was doing it. He was,
he was like it. I'm trying to remember the figure.
It was like one point eight percent of GDP. We're
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now at like one hundred and twenty six percent of GDP.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Let me speak it out loud about a fan in
the south, and certainly they do in other parts of
the country as well. That boy, that girl's got a
champagne taste on a beer budget. She spended more than
they may.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Which is why Trump has to reorganize the global trade system,
try to get manufacturing back. We're doing.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know, if your external revenue service will be the
most heralded financial event in the history of this country.
What the external revenue service exter twenty calls? Okay, I
like that, but the external revenue service being able to
make money off of other countries who at this point
have been ripping us off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
No one's been minding the teal. But it's not going
to come without pain. And I heard plenty of Democrats
saying this week Donald Trump literally didn't have to do
anything if he did not touch the economy. Things were
moving in the right direction and they're right. Things were.
If you were just looking for a quarter or maybe
(31:57):
even the entire year, twenty twenty five could have gone
pretty swimmingly if Donald Trump didn't launch chaos with a
global trade war. Why would he mess that up? Is
it just because he's an idiot. Nobody thinks he's an idiot,
Not even the far left thinks he's an idiot. He understands.
And the big secret that nobody's talking about is what
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we're doing with India right now, right now. The Vice
President announced this week we are very close, right now
to a trade agreement with India. Why is India so important?
Because only India has the bigger population than China, right
China is equal to us now.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Now, if we just running the lemonade stand in the India, okay,
we can make the balance. We could work that out.
At the end of the day of the P and
L sheet will work in our favor. We can sell
more eliminade. We could certainly use the money. We would
make it look on paper like we're doing the right thing.
We're not running a lemonade stand. We are Pepsi or coke,
take your choice. We are pepsi in competition with coke.
(32:59):
Coke is China. This is a battle. This is for
market dominance. This is the way this is gonna play out.
And if you don't take advantage of the opportunity right now,
you're never gonna get it again and the rest of
your life because you're never gonna get another politician to
stand up of China. You're not. And on top of that,
it's not just about the money. We're talking about the
trade seekers who talk about China's trade barriers, other countries
(33:21):
trade barriers. If the UK wants to hook themselves to Beijing, fine,
go ahead and do it. You want to watch You
want to watch World War three. You want to see
al gors Hitler regime come back as he projected, but
it's going to be in Europe. Knock yourself out. Representative
Nathan Valentine, Republican and Chapin said during the hearing he
was struggling with the proposals, saying that while he does
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it like the forty four percent of the residents who
currently pays zero percent in income taxes don't pay anything
for services, he struggles with the idea of raising taxes
on anyone to fund them instead of a tax problem
he said, South Carolina has a marketing issue.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Okay, what's our marketing issue?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Too few people know how affordable life of the Palmetto
State can be.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I can point to forty four percent who got.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It, and that's exactly what we're gonna get. We're gonna
end up getting more of Charlotte's homeless sit here on
a bus. So as you look back on it, now,
let me read the article of the post incurier or
the headline. As state republicans revived plans to slash taxes
for wealthy, some ask why, Well, this is why I
(34:34):
can never write headlines. I might try this one, as
State House republicans seek to proportionately apply the state tax.
Some ask why. At least that's a little closer to
the actual conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But that's not a clicker. That doesn't get the clickbait.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
As let me try this one, as State House republicans
plan to equally tax citizens. Some ask why? As State
House republicans revived plans to slash taxes, Some ask why
it's just a messaging problem.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think we're looking for more like as Republicans try
to screw the poor.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Some ask why, Well, then this was plainly off the
mark is state's House. Republicans ask forty four percent of
citizens currently paying nothing in taxes to pay their fair share.
Some ask why they would never print that one in
the psocop
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in twenty sixteen, just thirty eight percent of voters
wanted the government that had tried at the port all
eleven million undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Compared to where we are in.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Twenty twenty five, fifty six.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Percent the majority. And I think that's a big part
of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying the country
is on the right track.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Kelly Nash serves as a volunteer in the public school system.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
She went for her routine checkup with ISIS and she
never made it home. The Jonathan and Kelly Show, w
dooc these House members that are going all over now,
they're all over now, Kelly, forget about just chasing down
to O Salvador. Okay, there's like ten of them showed
(00:48):
up in Louisiana yesterday at a facility where they're housing
some of the deportees soon to be deportees. I guess
we've got tom in temporary housing now to go with
their temporary legal status. But the Congressman, Troy Carter, I
believe is his name, never heard of him before Louisiana,
(01:10):
bragging about that poor girl who has pulled off the streets.
She was doing everything. She was a perfect citizen, and
according to the congressman, she even made her regularly scheduled
appointments with isis.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Made the wait a minute appointments.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well who isis? Is what the man said. But I
heard him say it yesterday or last night. I'm bit
wait a minute, what did he say? So I had
to go back and listen to it again, he says, plainly,
as I just played for you. She did her regular
check as with isis. Goodness, did you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
See the interview with the wife of the fine Maryland
man that what's his name? The former New York giant
who's now on Good Morning America had Oh you know
the guy? Yeah, straight Michael Strahan. Yes, and that was
the most uncomfortable. Aw did anybody prepare her? I know
(02:07):
that she's being pushed out there by the Democrats, but
you know, he was like, you know, the government's claiming
that your husband's a member of MS thirteen? Is your
husband a fact a member of MS thirteen? Dead silence
for about three seconds, eyes darting all over the place. No,
(02:28):
oh my god, I see that. Yeah. Then it was like, well,
and I have to ask this hard question as well.
You know you you filed a complaint against your husband
for spousal abuse. Were you in fact afraid for your
well being at that time? That was probably five seconds
of dead air, and then I have all I've said
(02:49):
all I'm saying on that. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's even more awkward than the interview that Pocahontas had.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Can we get We'll keep our fight up for the
good fine Maryland dad of the father of the years.
Let's get him back. His wife looks scared the death
of him.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The Democrats absolutely positively are demonstrating to the American people
and I realized Democrats are Democrats. They're going to vote
for you just because you're a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And if you get the majority of Democrats or the
majority of voters happen to be Democrats, you're gonna win.
We correlate that to David Pasco later in this podcast
if we'd like, and put it in South Carolina terms.
But they absolutely positively are showing you the Democrats no
matter what the guy from CNN says about the deportation
polling numbers that American Democrats plainly want. Then look, we
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didn't go out of our way to turn our blind
eye to the damn border for four years with incompetent
Joe Biden to get all these people here only to
have Donald Trump send them back home. We're not going
to have him send them back home. We're going to
keep them here, make sure they vote.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm trying to remember who said it. They were talking
about if Trump was to was allowed to deport them,
and this is like a congress person talking and they
were like, then they end up in a judicial black
hole where they might not ever be able to get back.
(04:15):
Is that a problem? Is that a problem? So it
was It might even been the judge. I'm thinking now
that it was a judge who said that, and it
was because you saw that they put a twenty one
day time limit. Now, so we're using what's the name
of the act that they're using from the eighteen hundreds
that they're all pissed off about.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Enemies Act.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, so, and the reason for that is somebody has
been declared an enemy of the country and they are
to be immediately deported before they can do any damage. Well,
this district judge, I think yesterday says, well, before you
can deport them, they need a twenty one day, heads
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up before you can deport them each in, every.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
One of them, because that give them a sporting chance.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Which obviously defeats the entire purpose of the We're trying
to deport them before they can do any harm to
the country. And then they use the phrase they if
they're outside of the country, they end up in a
legal black hole where they might not be able to
get back. They're declared enemies of the country. You don't
get there is no more due process and no there is.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
A military judicial process.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You are not you are not a citizen of this country.
That's check number one. But you've become check number two
when you are a known associate and or declared member
of something that we called a terrorist group, like what's
his name, Congressman Dippity do doing the daily checksans with ISIS.
If you say you are a member of ISIS, you
(05:53):
will be deported.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Actually she was charged of being a HABBA supporter. Checking
in with isis. This guy, this moron is running the
d throne. Johnson from George just being the most stupid
man to serve in Congress checks in with ISIS.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't know. Capsize is always going to remember one
for it. That is really hard. I mean, we didn't
even we didn't even supplant surplass him. When what's her
face said? Do they still have the US flag on Mars?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That that poor woman, God rest her soul. We lost her.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That was Barbara Lee?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm ting to remember her name?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes, Congressman Lee. Can you take the rover over to
where we put the flag on Mars? Oh, Mars? These
people are too stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How did it?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh? My god? All right, we'll get back to that
later on because I want to talk about the David
Pascal situation here in South Carolina. Hey, this is Jonathan
Rushers Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh, we didn't grinned great ourselves. I'm sorry. Hello, Jonathan,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
For being here on the podcast. If somebody was asking
me the other day said, how should podcast doing us? Said,
you know, we do. Okay, It's just the people in
South Carolina really don't give a damn about South Carolina politics,
and this is why the General Assembly is worse than
the swamp in DC.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We try to make it fun and lighthearted. This is
really our mission on this show. We're not trying to
give you like deep thoughts, serious analysis. We're trying to
point and laugh at the hypocrisy the idiocy of politics
nationally and more importantly locally, so that you know what's
(07:34):
going on. You know, Rhino Hunt twenty twenty five is on.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh my gosh, and we want to get to that
later on. About this thing today and I wanted to
talk about it, Well, we got so many things, it's
really tough to pick what we're gonna use as our
rash thought of the day. Nancy Mace could not be
denied after the video that she put out. That just
couldn't be proudly So let's just go ahead and talk
(08:02):
about that. They don't want to get to the headline.
That really just when you look at South Carolina News,
then you look at the perspective of South Carolina News,
and then you read the actual story, which apparently no
South Carolinian does because you'd end up canceling your subscription
to the person that you say is your news source.
But Nancy mays in this now infamous video she put out,
(08:23):
but the guy in the makeup section or Kelly says
it was an actual makeup store.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's the Alta in Mount Pleasant there at the
town Center.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So he asked her, ask her about having more town
halls because all the Republicans are getting pushed back from
the local news. You've heard this on the national These
Republicans are afraid to show them to talk to the
constituents because they're so far out of control with the
Trump administration, and they're they're not only going to stop
your solid security checks so to come claw back all
(08:54):
the money they sent you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, did you see the one with Byron Donald's
the other day? That was very odd. I don't unders
stand why, and maybe you can do this. Why Byron
Donald's doesn't say if you continue to interrupt me, you're
going to be removed from the hall. We have security
here to do just that. So you're booing and I'm
not even allowed to speak. That's the majority of the
(09:16):
people here want to hear what I have to say.
That's why they're here, and we will take questions. But
you're not going to just stand here and tell me
to go f myself and scream over me.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I'm not going to get into a pisson match.
So I can pay you more than George Soros's organization
paid you to be here to boom me to begin with, Yeah,
so just punch your clock at the door, go home,
take your paycheck, and get out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I, you know what, I might be more in
the middle on that scenario, because I do believe that
there are plenty of liberals who don't need a paycheck
to go do this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I hear a lot of right wing people saying, you know,
they're paying these people to be there. I don't necessarily
believe that. I think that if you went into Charleston,
you can find some very disgruntled Democrats who are very
upset with things, are going.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Find goodwilled South Carolina citizens who only watch these six
thirty national news Okay, and they're just it's not that
they're stupid, it's just they're uninformed. The real Trump has
never said, nor has he made any indication, or is
anybody as Trump administration made any indication that Social Security
checks are going to be halted, that Social Security is
(10:25):
going to be defunded, that they're going to doze and
totally eliminate social Security. None of that's ever been said.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They have said they'd like to actually increase payments to
the senior citizens.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And they have said they would like to make it
tax free.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes, they have said that, but that's not the story.
The story is that Elon Musk wants your Social Security
numbers so he can raid your bank account.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, and people believe it. But why because we've always
believed the National News. Your friends down the street, I
got some totally good people totally understand it, some of
them incredibly smart people.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That might be the answer for older people, but it
certainly it can't be the answer for if you're under forty.
If you're under forty, there's never been a time in
your life that people trusted the National News.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, okay, so Nancy Base now in her own video
that she put out very boastfully, brio may be the word.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh that was our word of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
On the other show, reminded the well moisturized constituent.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's self described well moisturized, maybe an invitation for you
to test him. Maybe if well groomed, you want to
test how moisturized he is, Johnathan, it could be an invitation.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I don't think he's interested in me getting that close
to him, nor I him.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You don't think he would be interested in you?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You're a good looking man. I don't think he might
not like the results of you getting close to him.
I'm not saying that he would.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
She trying to be related and show because Twitzy services
very bosfully borned out does she voted for Game ariage twice.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
See now, I think that that's where she was getting irritated.
And again I understand our Republicans are very sensitive now
to this town hall thing. We've seen numerous ones go
haywire because of the Democrats just standing there taking over
the things. But this is he did not appear Although
(12:25):
he does appear to be gay, he did not appear
to be hostile. In the video she shopping in the alta,
he approaches and apparently starts asking about town halls. I
guess he has a video of it. She has a
video of it, and then there's several other shoppers. But
you know, obviously her version of it and several other
(12:47):
people's versions of it are going to start after the
confrontation has began. But from his version, he does not
sound hostile when he says I'm wondering, when are you
going to do some town hall But she took that
immediately and escalated it and said I'm trying to find
her actual response to that, where she was saying, I've
(13:11):
done plenty of town halls last year, and he said,
I didn't ask about last year's town halls. I'm wondering
about when are you doing some future town halls? And
she says, well, you could have gone to a dozen
town halls last year. Again, I'm asking you, are you
doing any this year? And she said, I have done something,
I'm planning to do plenty more, and you're always invited.
(13:32):
So she's in a very irritated state. Then throws in,
unprompted by the way, I voted for gay marriage twice,
And he said, what the hell does that have to
do with me? You think everything about me has to
do with gay marriage? And then she said, I do absolutely.
If you want to get in my face about town halls,
(13:54):
you should have shown up last year. So again you've
pointed out what is it? Your IQ drops how many points?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well, the internet's a little bit scattered on this. Some
internet reports say fifteen to twenty. I heard a psychologist
one time say forty. Now that's the most that's the
most aggressive I've heard. But it seems to be on
average about twenty to twenty five points. It's what your
IQ drops. Now. I don't know where she started on
that scale, but if you drop it twenty five you
get to the FU, which is what it turned into.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, she says, where were you before that or the
year before that? Or because you know what, because you
people on the left are crazy, You're absolutely expletive crazy,
and get out of my face. And he laughed and said,
you're insane. I'm not in your face.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And then she said goodbye, and another curse was thrown in.
And so I think that a part of this is
she was upset, and when you're upset, like you said,
you don't really think clearly about what you're saying, and
some of it you'd like to take back. I'm the
part that I'm really wondering about is you want to
allegedly apparently quite likely want to run for governor of
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South Carolina. Yes, and apparent was she in like North
Augusta last night? That's obviously not your area. So why
are you in North Augusta if you're representing District one?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's Joe Wilson Steel Magnolia's Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, that's Joe Wilson's territory. But you're there, and is
it your intention to run on the I have voted
twice for gay marriage.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is that because that's an interesting strategy, Cotton.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not talking about general election now, I'm talking GOP primary. Yes,
I mean that does not seem to endear you to
a lot of Southern Baptists.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, speaking to town halls, James Clyburn has on his tour,
he's in parts that he does not represent. He was
at Wafford. I guess so yesterday is he running for governor?
Maybe he's going to switch to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Life, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
James Clyburn, who I'm sure started some of these very
interesting quotes with his ever popular Yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Jonathan Rush imitation of James Clyburn will never get hold.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar.
And he's talking about how you need to be you
need to encourage your neighbors. He urged anxious supporters to
continue resisting, but do it respectfully and encourage your neighbors.
He'll bring them about to the truth. This is why
(16:34):
he's on his listing tour. But he does speak, and
they speak about William Timmans want to know where he
was because apparently he won't show up for, according to them,
a town hall, and Timmans said, these so called town
halls are nothing more than stage pep rallies for political agendas.
I'm focused on delivering Trump's America First agenda, not performative gatherings,
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which is what he called James Clyburn's appearance to Florence Well.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I would have to say, James Kyburn, first, did he
say you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar?
We said, you actually catch the most flies with bs,
which is exactly what he's throwing around here, a lot
of bs trying to catch flies. He knows dang well
that nobody wants right now or in my memories, wants
(17:23):
to reach across an aisle. It's it's political suicide to
reach across the aisle. Now he's saying the Democrats need
to encourage Republicans. I guess that's who he's addressing here,
You need to reach across He's not encouraging Republicans to
try to woo the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Democrats of our Democrats must try to change the minds
of their neighbors who voted for Trump. That Americans should
turn to each other, not own each other.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, and the Democrats currently have I think it was
a twenty one percent approval rating something like that. So
why would anybody listen to a Democrat? At this point?
You are you are literally you are sprinting to the
ash heap of history. You are about to be deplatformed.
The entire Democrat Party will be whoever the next Whigs are.
(18:12):
They're planning their revolution to overtake the Democrats and rebrand
it pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He reminds you of the listening tour as he speaks,
just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to be disagreeable.
I want to remind you that this is a great
country and has no need of being made great. And
then he goes on, as we talked about earlier, to
propagate the lie that Trump's going to take away your
social Security and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You need to Yeah, America has been a great country
and in many aspects remains a great country even when
Sleepy Joe is at the helm. However, make America great again.
I don't think we need to explain this to the audience.
Has very little to do with changing much other than
just implementing the laws that are already on the books.
(18:58):
We can do anything and everything as long as we
follow the laws that are currently on the books. We
have these active as judges who are reinterpreting the law
right now. That's what's happening again. We're just talking about
it a second ago. You've got an Enemies Act that
says if you are found to be an enemy of
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the United States, meaning you have sworn allegiance to or
are found to have participated with an enemy group of
this country, you can be deported a need to be
deported immediately. You have somehow interpreted that to mean they
need a twenty one day notice so that they can
then get due process in the courts. That is insane
and nowhere near the law.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, and I want to point out I wanted to
talk about the headline. The headline here and this one
is coming from the Posting Courier. Not to say that
the Posting Courier writes misleading headlines so than the State
or WYS or WOTX or any other of these local
TV or newspapers who are now owned by Corporate America
who claim to be your hometown newspaper. And matter of fact,
(20:06):
I'll actually salute the Posting Courier, the State News newspaper,
and what used to be the afternoon edition called the Record.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Because they're a lot of business. I don't remember the
Record like in the seventies. Oh okay, that's why I
wouldn't even know.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
The state newspaper was the Record was the newspaper of
record for the state of South Carolina. Well, the Posting
Couriers kick their ass right off the curb.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
The deeper pockets, I guess, right. The State newspaper is
down to nothing. There's there's like four people wandering around
trying to just copy and paste what the Posting Courier wrote.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Right, yeah, exactly. And the Greenville News I think, you know,
I think probably the Greenville News is a pretty good newspaper.
But the Posting Courier is already going up to Greenville
starting to take their take money off the table there
as well, and they're buying up every small town newspaper
worth having. They're not getting their lunch newspapers now owned
by the Posting Courier. They're not eating their lunch, but
(21:01):
they are having their breakfast. It'd be moving on to
lunch next. So the headline was as State House Republicans
revived plans to slash taxes for the wealthy. Comma, those
are the plans. Some ask why, let's just skim through
this article real quick, and then I'll show you how
why I would never be hired to write a headline
(21:22):
for the Posting Courier. State House Republicans reviving contentious proposal.
State fiscal analysts say in their plan, it would slash
taxes for the wealthy, while low and middle class owners
would see increases. Now, I'm not saying there isn't some
truth in the statistical study in that one Republican questioned
(21:44):
whether a shift to a single flat tax income rate,
which would be great, is necessary, particularly given the lack
of evidence that the status quo is actually hurting the
state's prosperity. So you've got members in the Ways and
Means Committee saying, wait minute, why are we doing anything here?
We're doing great as a state.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Look, I would say, who said that? A Republican?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, it doesn't say which one. Because members of the
House Ways and Means Committee convened in April twenty second,
yesterday to discuss the proposal, Some members, including one Republican,
question whether it's shift to a flat tax income rate
is necessary, particularly given a lack of evidence a status
quoi is actually hurting the state's prosperity.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I would say South Carolina continues to thrive in spite
of our current tax policies, in spite of our current
education down falls, and in spite of our current road troubles. Yes,
we are thriving. We would be thriving significantly more. We
should be, I mean literally, we should be out performing
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person to person North Carolina and Georgia and Tennessee, and
yet we do not. We are behind all three of
those states.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Dial proposal, what we read about in the paper and
talked about on this podcast before and even a rash thought,
would consolidated the state's progressive, three tiered income tax structure
to a flat rate of three point nine to nine
percent for all taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So yeah, I was to say, when you talk about
the flat tax, the pushback and I'll just read it
to you from these loonies on the left. I know
that because I can look at their haircuts, which are
also half purple in it. In short, a flat tax
is one where every taxpayer pays the exact same percentage
of their income. Yes, that is a problem, and it
(23:38):
appeals to the wealthy. A flat tax guarantees that wealthy
families tax bill will be a lower share of their
income than that paid by families of more modest means.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And the lower share plainly flies into the face of
what their fair share. Joe Biden would remind you.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's that's exactly right, Jonathan. They don't want you to
the same as everybody else. That's not what we want.
We wanted to redistribute wealth.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
According to a fiscal note on the bill filed earlier
this month, the Republican's tax plane would actually increase taxes
about hundreds of dollars for approximately six percent of the earners.
And we talked about that earlier. While some of the
benefits of the tax cut would be felt by the
very rich. Now, the Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bruce Banished,
a Republican Greenville described described as an opportunity for members
(24:31):
to listen and learn about possible alternatives to the original
bill after constituents express concerns about the original bill. So
if you ever wondered whether your phone call to the
General Assembly makes a difference, it does. What quickly became
clear was that moving to a flat tax would be
very difficult to accomplish with only three weeks left in
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the session. That is an absolute camouflage line. That means
we're not going to do it. While South Carolina is
one of the top income rates in the Southeast, it's
paid by only the state's highest earners with few other
avenues to fund the government.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Again, we looked that up the other day. The state's
highest earners or anybody making over was it sixteen thousand
a year. It was something like that. It was like
it was some unbelievably low number.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It was a low number with other avenues. With few
other avenues to fund the government, South Carolina allows heavily
on the income tax bills to pay its bills. Forty
five percent of the revenues were derived from income taxes,
and most of those receipts, approximately sixty three percent, are
covered by the state's top ten percent of earners. This
(25:40):
is why we're starting to have more conversations about a casino,
because we're going to find a way to generate more
money if you're going to bring about a flat tax.
While South Carolina's been experiencing surpluses for what five years now,
we've got some room, but apparently not enough.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, a lot of that start.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Cutting back on the tea and the firefighters.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Look, a lot of that surplus had to do with
COVID money that was coming into the state, and it
also has to do I saw yesterday Alan Wilson's office
put out a thing. We got like another amazing check
from the tobacco settlement lawsuit from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, we get that every year.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah not forever though. So we got six hundred and
forty million this year, we got seven hundred and ten
million the year before. It is starting to wind down now.
So again I get the fact that we have surpluses.
Those aren't going to last forever. But you know, for
some group of individuals who wants everything to be fair
(26:37):
and you're talking about the top ten percent, they just
admitted it. What did they ever say something about the
top ten percent paid the fact.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Of today by the top ten percent.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So they're not so that's not enough to them, or
they just don't want to change it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Lawmakers could simply slash the top rate, but that would
cost hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars from
the state budget. Keep taxes affordable and mitigate the impact
of the budget. Ball Makers instead have proposed broadening or
flattening the tax base, a shift to one single tax
rate that would both cut taxes on the wealthy while
(27:13):
increasing taxes on lower income earners. And we know that'd
be true because we also know there is a huge
majority of people here. We're going to get down to
forty four percent who currently pays zero zero. Forty four
percent in this state pays zero for any state offerings,
and then it goes through. There's three different scenarios on
(27:35):
the table having to do with reducing it to three
point nine nine, then one lightly higher at four point
seventy four, and then another one at five point four nine.
You can read all that in the newspaper if you like.
It's pretty much the way you imagine mathematically. You could
see it shake out in such a way that we
still get down to the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Again, if you have a flat tax, is a user tax,
well use it, But wouldn't it also be this I
would think would bring great comfort to them, because they're
the ones who've pointed out Warren Buffett does not pay
as much taxes as his secretary. The rich have dodged
(28:16):
their taxes forever, according to these idiots. So if Warren
Buffett pays less tax than his secretary, wouldn't it be
nice if at least we could get Warren to pay
as much as his secretary. You would think that would
be a good thing. And by the way, the goal
is flipping zero, guys. It's not to get it to
(28:37):
six or three or two or one percent. The actual
goal is no income tax, zero like they got in Alaska, Florida, Nevada,
New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Wyoming. We don't want
to pay income tax because we want to attract more
people here. And the less you pay in taxes, the
(28:58):
more freedom there is for the people who live there.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But see, the lingering question remains why anything is needed
at all. South Caler remains one of the fastest growing
states in the Union. It ranks amongst the top fifteenth
states in the country in GDP growth. Todd Rutherford says,
if we're competing for people, we're certainly winning. We're winning.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's hard to argue with ignorant people, but I will
here's the problem. America is failing. Right we're talking when
you're talking about making America great again, and we mentioned
this at the beginning of this podcast. America, there's a
lot of things to say. It is great. Even under
Sleepy Joe was still great. However, America, with its thirty
(29:45):
six and a half trillion dollar deficit, it's not because
we don't tax people enough in this country. In other words,
as a matter of fact, if you taxed all of
us one hundred percent, we'd still come up short. We
do not have enough money in this country to anything
in taxes. How's that sound, guys? And the reality of
it is, the government must stop its spending and we're
(30:08):
going to lose the country. We are the poorest nation
on earth. We've been the poorest nation on earth since
Barack Obama became the president. He's the one who drove
us into debt. Other presidents obviously overspent as well, including
Bill Clinton, who I know they love to say he
had one year of a balanced budget, one year based
off of an incredible surplus brought in by the dot
(30:30):
com boom of the late nineties. Other than that, he
also had deficit spending, and every other president Reagan had
deficit spending. And that's that's my god. I put my
god up there on the cross too. Yes, Reagan was wrong,
but we're talking about when Reagan was doing it. He was,
he was like it. I'm trying to remember the figure.
It was like one point eight percent of GDP. We're
(30:55):
now at like one hundred and twenty six percent of GDP.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Let me speak it out loud about a fan in
the south, and certainly they do in other parts of
the country as well. That boy, that girl's got a
champagne taste on a beer budget. She spended more than
they may.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Which is why Trump has to reorganize the global trade system,
try to get manufacturing back. We're doing.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know, if your external revenue service will be the
most heralded financial event in the history of this country.
What the external revenue service exter twenty calls? Okay, I
like that, but the external revenue service being able to
make money off of other countries who at this point
have been ripping us off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
No one's been minding the teal. But it's not going
to come without pain. And I heard plenty of Democrats
saying this week Donald Trump literally didn't have to do
anything if he did not touch the economy. Things were
moving in the right direction and they're right. Things were.
If you were just looking for a quarter or maybe
(31:57):
even the entire year, twenty twenty five could have gone
pretty swimmingly if Donald Trump didn't launch chaos with a
global trade war. Why would he mess that up? Is
it just because he's an idiot. Nobody thinks he's an idiot,
Not even the far left thinks he's an idiot. He understands.
And the big secret that nobody's talking about is what
(32:19):
we're doing with India right now, right now. The Vice
President announced this week we are very close, right now
to a trade agreement with India. Why is India so important?
Because only India has the bigger population than China, right
China is equal to us now.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Now, if we just running the lemonade stand in the India, okay,
we can make the balance. We could work that out.
At the end of the day of the P and
L sheet will work in our favor. We can sell
more eliminade. We could certainly use the money. We would
make it look on paper like we're doing the right thing.
We're not running a lemonade stand. We are Pepsi or coke,
take your choice. We are pepsi in competition with coke.
(32:59):
Coke is China. This is a battle. This is for
market dominance. This is the way this is gonna play out.
And if you don't take advantage of the opportunity right now,
you're never gonna get it again and the rest of
your life because you're never gonna get another politician to
stand up of China. You're not. And on top of that,
it's not just about the money. We're talking about the
trade seekers who talk about China's trade barriers, other countries
(33:21):
trade barriers. If the UK wants to hook themselves to Beijing, fine,
go ahead and do it. You want to watch You
want to watch World War three. You want to see
al gors Hitler regime come back as he projected, but
it's going to be in Europe. Knock yourself out. Representative
Nathan Valentine, Republican and Chapin said during the hearing he
was struggling with the proposals, saying that while he does
(33:43):
it like the forty four percent of the residents who
currently pays zero percent in income taxes don't pay anything
for services, he struggles with the idea of raising taxes
on anyone to fund them instead of a tax problem
he said, South Carolina has a marketing issue.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Okay, what's our marketing issue?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Too few people know how affordable life of the Palmetto
State can be.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I can point to forty four percent who got.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It, and that's exactly what we're gonna get. We're gonna
end up getting more of Charlotte's homeless sit here on
a bus. So as you look back on it, now,
let me read the article of the post incurier or
the headline. As state republicans revived plans to slash taxes
for wealthy, some ask why, Well, this is why I
(34:34):
can never write headlines. I might try this one, as
State House republicans seek to proportionately apply the state tax.
Some ask why. At least that's a little closer to
the actual conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But that's not a clicker. That doesn't get the clickbait.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
As let me try this one, as State House republicans
plan to equally tax citizens. Some ask why? As State
House republicans revived plans to slash taxes, Some ask why
it's just a messaging problem.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think we're looking for more like as Republicans try
to screw the poor.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Some ask why, Well, then this was plainly off the
mark is state's House. Republicans ask forty four percent of
citizens currently paying nothing in taxes to pay their fair share.
Some ask why they would never print that one in
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