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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, this is.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The biggest spinning cut I think in the history of
government on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Now, is it enough?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Kelly Nash, John Thune and Mike Johnson have done a
fantastic job the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Now we're going
to see what kind of hurdles and jumps and hoops
are going to jump through once it gets over to
the Senate, the most deliberated body of big thinkers ever convened.
Now we're going to find out. I mean, you look
at what happens here out of the House. I mean
it was like he was talking about, we're going to
have the most the biggest cuts in the history of
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any government known demand. There won't be any minut of
care money, for instance, for dental for the gnashing of teeth.
We're going to need that. There be lots of gnashing
of teeth going on over here.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Just nashing until you have no more teeth, no more
need for dental.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So and though that we're talking about when you start
cutting in the Democrats have already explained to you that
who is it, Michiganders was who I was preached to
by one of their senators, Michiganders are going to complete
lose their Medicare but under this bill, there'll be no
more Medicare in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Wow, that's tragic and shocking.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That it does sound like that would be a hard
one to get around on the negotiation inside any reconciliation committee.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How about Medicaid that gone to Oh, that's totally gone,
that's cooked.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean, but when you start talking about making
people qualify for the entitlements, that's why it's called an entitlement,
I'm entitled to it. Qualify for it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I mean, And by qualify for it, you mean even
be like an American citizen.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Exactly, I'm a citizen of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Shouldn't we open it up then to just like, why
should you have to come here to get the benefits?
Can't you identify? Like if you're in a Muslim nation
right now and you identify as a homosexual, you know
you can be beheaded in those countries for being a homosexual.
But tell them you identify as an American as well.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know, that's a great strategy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And then they don't and then we can pay them,
like because they can't work there because everybody in that
country knows they're homosexual, so they're unemployable. But they're going
to keep your head and you'll get a steady check
from the US government. I think that that's only fair.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We have to jump through a lot of hoops to
get where the Democrats are landing on this. Yeah, all right,
Kelly just shared with me something I couldn't even believe.
We have the South Carolina Democrat Party. They don't even
have the man on the bill, but mister fancy hands
was coming down the jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. I've responded. Now, this may be just because it's
the South Carolina what is it, black Caucus or whatever
it may be that that's the reason. So I've responded
to them. When you look at their tweet, it says,
quote really excited, hope you are too. It's almost time
for the South Carolina Democrat Party Convention weekend. Join us Friday,
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May thirtieth for the Blue Plate dinner featuring Governor Wes
Moore is our keynote speaker, plus Crystal Spain, Amy Harrison,
and James Clyburn in the building. Now, all three of those,
all four mentioned are black, so maybe that's the reason
that they left off Tim Walls, but I did respond,
don't forget this guy's coming as well. And it's got
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Tim doing some grease.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You have aerobics from four to six. That's part of
the lineup.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yes, and he's the kind of guy who wear leg warmers.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's the perfect seventh INNI stretch guy that he is.
That would be a reason why he wouldn't be the headliner,
all though he is touted by many as being the
Democrats great white hope.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is he really I have not heard much about Tim
I know in his own estimation, was quote brought onto
the ticket in order to let straight heterosexual males know
that it's okay to vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, that was his role in the camp double down.
Said he could kick most Republicans ass magas.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, not just regular dudes. But Maga is ultimately
weaker people, according to Tim, mister macho guy out there
trying to figure ou how to load his shotgun. It's
a flipping shotgun. When you open it up, there's two holes.
It's not that hard, Tim.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It was a breach load it automatic.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Lifelong hunter Tim Walls trying to figure life wile fishermen
trying to figure out how to put a warm on
a hook that could be a comedy special into itself.
Tim Walls trying to put some bait on a hook.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm betting on the worm's gonna get away. Oh my god,
that's hysterical. All right. So when it was kind of
a slow news weekend, given it was a holiday weekend, but.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Trump, they were really making some hay with Donald Trump
wore his Maga hat.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It woars Maga hat. It was nearly like he had.
It was a call to arms. It was a weakened
a nod to a blind horse and a call of
arms to the terrorist who we know it and filtrated
the military from the Maga regime. And I'm surprised that
much like in a movie takeover of Oh this is
going to come to me in a second. It was
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Tom Cruise when he was about eighteen and he was
in a movie. Can't remember who else was in it.
It was called Taps, Tom the Taps where they took
over the military school and they had created a blockade.
It was much like a recreation of Taps the motion picture.
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Trump was going to take it over with the Trump
magaloyalist terrorist inside the military and then it was a standoff.
Now that's not the way it played out, but that's
what you would have thought was being described as he
went into his rally mode during the middle of a
Memorial Day speech, and that was different from the West
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Point graduation.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I would like to have had him and I say
this sarcastically, we're changing the uniform. Now you'll all be
issued Maga hats. Every West Point grad must wear a
MAGA hat is part of the official uniform. I mean, look,
this is the kind of rhetoric that you're getting from
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the left, is that Donald Trump is dangerous because he's
politicizing speeches. He's a first off, he's the politician. Anything
he says is considered politicized. He can be telling you
that the you know, he can tell you the weather,
and it's politicized because it's coming out of his mouth
or any politician's mouth.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But I thought he'd made some great speeches. I thought
it was a fantastic weekend for the United States. I thought,
other than the Democrats, who, by the way, the mayor
of Chicago, how dumb is this guy? Because he just
keeps digging the hole for himself. Monday, he does not
put out a video regarding Memorial Day. Now, he did
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put out a tweet about Memorial Day, but no video.
The video that he decided to put out on Memorial
Day was where he was asking people to take a
moment of silence because it's Africa Day. Yeah, I didn't
know it was Africa Day. Neither, But nor do I
care that it's Africa Day. And he's talking about the
one point two billion people or whatever live in Africa
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and blah blah blah. It's Memorial Day in the United
States of America. And the big complaint about you, as
the mayor of Chicago has been that you do not
acknowledge that you're in America.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You barely acknowledge Chicago.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's trying to move Chicago to Africa exactly, or just Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He wants it to be its own country because we
have citizens of the world all around the world, and
they should be on everything from Medicare to Medicaid to
so secured to the housing.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So while he was doing that, you also had the Democrats,
thousands of them around the country doing I don't think
you can call it a protest, It's just a let's
take a knee. Let's have a moment of silence for
George Floyd. It was the fifth anniversary of George Floyd dying.
And again, I'm not here to make a light of
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George Floyd passing away. I will still question the cause
of death. But why would you hijack Memorial Day and
not do any tributes to the millions of Americans who
have died and their remain We have thousands of not millions,
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of families who understand what it's like to have a
loved one die in service to this country.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, like there's only so much space on the internet.
He can't put make everything a priority.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, I'm saying this is the Democrat Party. The Democrat
Party led mass moments of silence around the country, not
for Memorial Day. They were specifically saying, this is not
about the United States of America. This is about what
happened in the United States of America to George Floyd. Well,
I mean you hate America. I say I hate America
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without saying I hate America rather than acknowledge a day
of I know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's an X page somebody updates daily.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's really just it's beyond infuriating. It's just I can't
believe that these people have any foothold in American politics.
You're going to build a party now whose apparent only
goal is to destroy America, and Americans are going to
vote for you. Somebody breenstormed this idea and it's I'm
not saying that it's working, but it's going a lot
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better than I thought it would have.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, sadly that is true. Here in South Carolina. We've
got some budget talk for you. Well, we got the
budget came out of conference on Wednesday, but then it's
Thursday already. Then you're going into the Memorial Day weekend,
that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, in this case, Monday as well.
You're back in today at the General Assembly. We're going
to get the budget finalized. And it's a foregone conclusion
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based on the information we're getting here in this article,
that the lawmakers are going to come in and we've
got a budget agreement because a lot of the big
hurdles are already crossed according to the bandits trim Peeler
that already negotiated those long ago. They had aligned it
with their vision for making South Carolina better, being conservative
budget ters, we are now comfortable with working with each other,
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understanding what each the House and the Senate and our
respective leadership went to see for the state moving forward.
And we got a couple of glimpses as what we're
going to see in the final Now, remember we don't
have the finalized vote yet.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's tomorrow, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It will be tomorrow. I'm sorry, No, today's Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, Yeah, that back goes on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, I could be wrong. All right, today or tomorrow,
we're gonna get it. We're going to get the finalized vote,
and we will get this done. And there's some things
in here that I think, you know, there's this s
mortgage borg of stuff that people wanted thirty five million
dollars for the state Department Transportation to cover Aleen expenses
at another what eight hundred let's see at the six
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hundred million more for the state's Medicare program. So we're
trying to bridge the gap here.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Can we l that to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
We're going to have to, I guess Michigan Andrews will
be coming down here. Our state's going to continue to
grow now because we're expanding our medicaid forty million for
next gym computing complex at Clemson. There's a lot of
money going to campus this year. Thirteen point two million
towards a battery center facility at the University of South Carolina,
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twenty five million toward a new College of Medicine academic
building at the Medical University of South Carolina. And then
there's more money to be spent on colleges and furthering
our education. That has been a priority. We've got a
further education. There is some money in here for K twelve,
but there's a lot of other money for college.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, if you look at these story it says for
college students, tuition rates for in state students will stay
the same. The Budget Conference Committee opted to strip bout
language that would have allowed the schools to increase the
tuition on in state students, and they did that by
giving another sixty five million dollars a year to the
state universities and said now you must freeze the tuitions. Now,
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when you look up how much does because it said
sixty five million more, I googled how much does South
Carolina pay state universities annually? The answer comes back. South
Carolina allocates a significant portion of its state's budget to
higher education annually, with state and local funding totaling two
point zero billion billion dollars in fiscal year twenty twenty four.
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That is in addition to the one point nine billion
intuition revenue that the universities bring in. So more than
fifty percent of the state university's money comes from your
tax dollars now, and again another one point nine billion
is paid intuition annually. And we've been talking about this.
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I can't ever remember the guy's name that we used
to have on when we did the afternoon show on VOC,
but that guy was taught He was like the head
of whatever that non paid government agency was. That Henry
McMaster I think put him in charge of. He was
supposed to look at the costs of education and how
they were spending the money. And he was exposing on
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our show ten years ago what a disaster the state
university program is. And one of the main reasons, not
just for state universities but all students in general, was
the amount of money that goes into allowing you to
get a loan. So the federal government, when they decided
to start making these loans to college students, they started
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driving up the costs of what it would cost for
everybody to go to college, because you could talk to
somebody who went to college in the nineteen seventies and
they will tell you I paid for it with my
own part time work, because like back in those days,
to go to like the the University of Southern California
was like eleven hundred dollars a year. Now I understand
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the times it's today it's like ninety thousand dollars a year.
We haven't had a ninety times increase since nineteen seventy seven.
So they flooded the market with these loans. So there's
everybody wants to go to college. And by the way,
when you look at dropout rates, Jonathan, you've made a
big story out of this year in and year out
about how many freshmen don't finish the year. But when
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you just look in general the state of South Carolina,
four hundred and sixty three thousand people have started college
at the state level and not finished. They took out loans,
they paid for their college education and said it's not
for me. I'm of that four hundred plus thousand people,
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I would imagine the vast majority of them, I would
say well over two hundred thousand of them knew before
they even signed up this is not for me, this
is for me, This is not what I want to do.
I don't want to go to college, and so they
would have never taken the loan. But the money was
so easy to get. Just sign here.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Even if you didn't get the free money, you got
you got the lottery money, which brought it down by
twenty five hundred dollars per semester. That's the lowest rung.
If you got the forgot the life scholarship, that's five
grand off per semester because they give the money straight
out of the lottery commission, so it makes it more
readily available for youngsters to get in. And as I'm
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not going to go through the whole story, but I
know anecdotally because they called me. They called me one
of the guarantee one of my kids a slot for
the spring semester, not the fall, but the spring. And
this particular youngster had been on the bubble to get
in for the for the fall semester and missed it
that much. But nonetheless, I'm saying, wait a minute, the
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semester hasn't even started yet, starts tomorrow, and you're telling
me you can guarantee my kid a spot in the fall.
Oh absolutely, And I'm like, okay. So then I started
doing some research and you find out the money that
we spend for the lottery, A lot of this money
comes out of the straight out of the coffers, goes
to freshmen who don't even go back for the second semester.
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Many of them don't even finish the first semester. Meanwhile,
we're building more buildings to house these freshmen, and then
in the falls spring semester, that's where you can put
all Columbia's homeless because these buildings are empty. But you
still got the capital expense, you got the maintenance expense,
you got the heating in the air, you took property
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off the tax rolls. I mean, you're doing all kinds
of things that are just bobbing in the wake of
this big monster that we use called University of South Carolina,
Clemson University named the public school. They all get money.
But Kelly, eighty percent of Americans tell us in all
these polls as of recent that they don't want taxpayer
money going to pay off college loans for students. Previously,
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Now we're just going to front load it with money
and send more money to the universities so that we
keep the tuition low. So now instead of paying off
their loans, you're just going to pay off We're going
to cut out the middleman. We're going to give it
directly to the person's office at your local campus.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I wish that was true, Johnathan, because again, look at that.
It's fifty to fifty two billion dollars a year last
year from you the taxpayer, and then another one point
nine billion dollars paid intuition. The universities are out of control.
But if it's a state run university, what this the
big argument has been, if you haven't been paying attention,
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is that the state universities in general do what I
think is identified as let me just check this again. Yep,
it says right here, piss poor job of preparing students
for actual careers in the state of South Carolina. When
they graduate, you can take that degree and fart on
it because it's not going to get you a job
in South Carolina. They are useless at train. The whole
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point of the Universe City System as a state run
university was to prepare you to do jobs that we
have available and when we talk to the manufacturers around
this country, around the state, they say there are thousands
and thousands of jobs that we have to go get
kids from Ohio State University Michigan. The list of colleges
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that prepare them to work down here is unbelievable. But
our kids, boy, they're very well versed in art. They're
very well versed in a bunch of tailor swift lyrics.
They're very well versed in a bunch of stuff that
will do nothing to help them or us.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And it looks like even with our technical colleges, because
a lot of this money goes to the tech campuses
as well. Particularly, we've all been talking about the availability
and how we should make sure we up the ante
and show up kids how they can use less money
out of their own pocket by taking full advantage of
lottery scholarships, for instance, to go to a technical college
and then be able to go to work immediately with
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a lot of the jobs are available. That we keep
promising these manufacturers who move here that we are equipping
the youngest of South Carolinians to make sure in the
workforce that they will be qualified to think all these jobs.
And invariably we don't do it well.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The CEO of Boeing said, probably three or four years
after they got here, we felt like Nikki Haley lied
to us. She promised that they had a bunch of
young people who were ready and trained to go to
work at Boeing, and it turned out there was nobody
in South Carolina who could work here basically doing the
jobs that we needed. We had to go back to Washington,
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Washington State, where they're from, and transfer a bunch of
people down here, and we had to import people from
all over the country. South Carolinians are adults. We don't have
anybody can do anything that we want us to do.
And this is a reason to not put another sixty
five million dollars a year in let the universities put
themselves out of business, because what's going to happen is
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they're going to keep wanting more and more money. They're
going to get to an area where Clemson and South Care,
Airlina and the rest of them are too expensive for
the vast majority of South Carolinians to go to and
they're not going to come from out of state. If
they're not getting a special deal, you're not getting kids
out of Pennsylvania to come down here if there's not
some sort of incredible deal. So eventually the university will
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have to run itself in a way that is beneficial
to the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
One of the things we definitely need to focus on
in our business school possibly is math return on investment. Now,
we got conservatives and Republican conservatives, as they describe themselves,
who are doing Nancy Pelosi math here because invariably the
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way they describe it, it is for every dollar you spend,
you're going to get a buck fifty back.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That was the Nancy Pelosi argument. This one's not quite
as much because it's for every well, we spend two
billion a year, but they say we got three billion back. Look,
if that's the way it works, then we ought to
spend twenty billion and get thirty billion back. It could
be the fastest growing state in America.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Is this front? Lad the whole thing in one year,
Give them the entire budget, and look what happens in
the aftermath of it all. Kind of like the big
beautiful bial. Look what's going to happen to the growth
of our state. Kelly, We're on fire all right. Now,
all of this remind reminding, we do not have a
finalized vote yet, but this is the information we have
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at this point. So and we do have some money
in here for roads and bridges.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hooray. Yeah. I mean one of the opening line of
the story, at least the one in the state, says,
when lawmakers vote on final spending plan on Wednesday for
the upcoming fiscal year, they will decide whether to keep
four hundred and seventy three million dollars on the table.
They have four hundred They're so flush with cash that
they have not even budgeted four hundred and seventy three
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million of it. This is an unbelievable problem that they have,
and that probably part of the reason that they're giving
another sixty five million on top of the two billion
that we're given to the university programs. But you know,
you and I have always made the argument you should
be fixing the roads. And I'm not just talking about
the roads. I really mean the bridges. We have so
many bridges that are near catastrophic levels right now. Did
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when you what we say we're spending like twenty million
or something stupid? I mean, you need to spend like
twenty billion to fix these bridges.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, we definitely need the infrastructure. We listen, we gotta
wait till the family dies. We got to wait till
the family.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We had one, didn't We have one up in Clempson.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We had a youngster. We had a young man in
Greenville County who died in the official in the official
report traffic report, the Howld PATROLMA said because of the
deterioration of the road that led to the accident that
took his life. So we have that already on record,
but you get to wait for something horrific. We have
a bridge totally collapse, and a family pulling a camp
or trailer down to Charleston is going to be in
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a river somewhere and they're all going to be dead,
and maybe that'll move the needle. If they're related to
a legislator, possibly that's what we're waiting.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, if it's a legislature is probably a lawyer, which
means he'll sue the state and get even richer if
there's no more money for pridging for that too.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, this is.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The biggest spinning cut I think in the history of
government on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Now, is it enough?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Kelly Nash, John Thune and Mike Johnson have done a
fantastic job the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Now we're going
to see what kind of hurdles and jumps and hoops
are going to jump through once it gets over to
the Senate, the most deliberated body of big thinkers ever convened.
Now we're going to find out. I mean, you look
at what happens here out of the House. I mean
it was like he was talking about, we're going to
have the most the biggest cuts in the history of
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any government known demand. There won't be any minut of
care money, for instance, for dental for the gnashing of teeth.
We're going to need that. There be lots of gnashing
of teeth going on over here.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Just nashing until you have no more teeth, no more
need for dental.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So and though that we're talking about when you start
cutting in the Democrats have already explained to you that
who is it, Michiganders was who I was preached to
by one of their senators, Michiganders are going to complete
lose their Medicare but under this bill, there'll be no
more Medicare in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Wow, that's tragic and shocking.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That it does sound like that would be a hard
one to get around on the negotiation inside any reconciliation committee.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
How about Medicaid that gone to Oh, that's totally gone,
that's cooked.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean, but when you start talking about making
people qualify for the entitlements, that's why it's called an entitlement,
I'm entitled to it. Qualify for it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I mean, And by qualify for it, you mean even
be like an American citizen.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Exactly, I'm a citizen of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Shouldn't we open it up then to just like, why
should you have to come here to get the benefits?
Can't you identify? Like if you're in a Muslim nation
right now and you identify as a homosexual, you know
you can be beheaded in those countries for being a homosexual.
But tell them you identify as an American as well.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know, that's a great strategy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And then they don't and then we can pay them,
like because they can't work there because everybody in that
country knows they're homosexual, so they're unemployable. But they're going
to keep your head and you'll get a steady check
from the US government. I think that that's only fair.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We have to jump through a lot of hoops to
get where the Democrats are landing on this. Yeah, all right,
Kelly just shared with me something I couldn't even believe.
We have the South Carolina Democrat Party. They don't even
have the man on the bill, but mister fancy hands
was coming down the jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. I've responded. Now, this may be just because it's
the South Carolina what is it, black Caucus or whatever
it may be that that's the reason. So I've responded
to them. When you look at their tweet, it says,
quote really excited, hope you are too. It's almost time
for the South Carolina Democrat Party Convention weekend. Join us Friday,
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May thirtieth for the Blue Plate dinner featuring Governor Wes
Moore is our keynote speaker, plus Crystal Spain, Amy Harrison,
and James Clyburn in the building. Now, all three of those,
all four mentioned are black, so maybe that's the reason
that they left off Tim Walls, but I did respond,
don't forget this guy's coming as well. And it's got
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Tim doing some grease.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You have aerobics from four to six. That's part of
the lineup.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yes, and he's the kind of guy who wear leg warmers.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's the perfect seventh INNI stretch guy that he is.
That would be a reason why he wouldn't be the headliner,
all though he is touted by many as being the
Democrats great white hope.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is he really I have not heard much about Tim
I know in his own estimation, was quote brought onto
the ticket in order to let straight heterosexual males know
that it's okay to vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, that was his role in the camp double down.
Said he could kick most Republicans ass magas.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, not just regular dudes. But Maga is ultimately
weaker people, according to Tim, mister macho guy out there
trying to figure ou how to load his shotgun. It's
a flipping shotgun. When you open it up, there's two holes.
It's not that hard, Tim.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It was a breach load it automatic.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Lifelong hunter Tim Walls trying to figure life wile fishermen
trying to figure out how to put a warm on
a hook that could be a comedy special into itself.
Tim Walls trying to put some bait on a hook.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm betting on the worm's gonna get away. Oh my god,
that's hysterical. All right. So when it was kind of
a slow news weekend, given it was a holiday weekend, but.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Trump, they were really making some hay with Donald Trump
wore his Maga hat.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It woars Maga hat. It was nearly like he had.
It was a call to arms. It was a weakened
a nod to a blind horse and a call of
arms to the terrorist who we know it and filtrated
the military from the Maga regime. And I'm surprised that
much like in a movie takeover of Oh this is
going to come to me in a second. It was
(05:10):
Tom Cruise when he was about eighteen and he was
in a movie. Can't remember who else was in it.
It was called Taps, Tom the Taps where they took
over the military school and they had created a blockade.
It was much like a recreation of Taps the motion picture.
(05:31):
Trump was going to take it over with the Trump
magaloyalist terrorist inside the military and then it was a standoff.
Now that's not the way it played out, but that's
what you would have thought was being described as he
went into his rally mode during the middle of a
Memorial Day speech, and that was different from the West
(05:52):
Point graduation.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I would like to have had him and I say
this sarcastically, we're changing the uniform. Now you'll all be
issued Maga hats. Every West Point grad must wear a
MAGA hat is part of the official uniform. I mean, look,
this is the kind of rhetoric that you're getting from
(06:16):
the left, is that Donald Trump is dangerous because he's
politicizing speeches. He's a first off, he's the politician. Anything
he says is considered politicized. He can be telling you
that the you know, he can tell you the weather,
and it's politicized because it's coming out of his mouth
or any politician's mouth.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But I thought he'd made some great speeches. I thought
it was a fantastic weekend for the United States. I thought,
other than the Democrats, who, by the way, the mayor
of Chicago, how dumb is this guy? Because he just
keeps digging the hole for himself. Monday, he does not
put out a video regarding Memorial Day. Now, he did
(06:58):
put out a tweet about Memorial Day, but no video.
The video that he decided to put out on Memorial
Day was where he was asking people to take a
moment of silence because it's Africa Day. Yeah, I didn't
know it was Africa Day. Neither, But nor do I
care that it's Africa Day. And he's talking about the
one point two billion people or whatever live in Africa
(07:19):
and blah blah blah. It's Memorial Day in the United
States of America. And the big complaint about you, as
the mayor of Chicago has been that you do not
acknowledge that you're in America.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You barely acknowledge Chicago.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
He's trying to move Chicago to Africa exactly, or just Chicago.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He wants it to be its own country because we
have citizens of the world all around the world, and
they should be on everything from Medicare to Medicaid to
so secured to the housing.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So while he was doing that, you also had the Democrats,
thousands of them around the country doing I don't think
you can call it a protest, It's just a let's
take a knee. Let's have a moment of silence for
George Floyd. It was the fifth anniversary of George Floyd dying.
And again, I'm not here to make a light of
(08:10):
George Floyd passing away. I will still question the cause
of death. But why would you hijack Memorial Day and
not do any tributes to the millions of Americans who
have died and their remain We have thousands of not millions,
(08:34):
of families who understand what it's like to have a
loved one die in service to this country.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, like there's only so much space on the internet.
He can't put make everything a priority.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, I'm saying this is the Democrat Party. The Democrat
Party led mass moments of silence around the country, not
for Memorial Day. They were specifically saying, this is not
about the United States of America. This is about what
happened in the United States of America to George Floyd. Well,
I mean you hate America. I say I hate America
(09:07):
without saying I hate America rather than acknowledge a day
of I know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's an X page somebody updates daily.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's really just it's beyond infuriating. It's just I can't
believe that these people have any foothold in American politics.
You're going to build a party now whose apparent only
goal is to destroy America, and Americans are going to
vote for you. Somebody breenstormed this idea and it's I'm
not saying that it's working, but it's going a lot
(09:37):
better than I thought it would have.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, sadly that is true. Here in South Carolina. We've
got some budget talk for you. Well, we got the
budget came out of conference on Wednesday, but then it's
Thursday already. Then you're going into the Memorial Day weekend,
that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, in this case, Monday as well.
You're back in today at the General Assembly. We're going
to get the budget finalized. And it's a foregone conclusion
(10:01):
based on the information we're getting here in this article,
that the lawmakers are going to come in and we've
got a budget agreement because a lot of the big
hurdles are already crossed according to the bandits trim Peeler
that already negotiated those long ago. They had aligned it
with their vision for making South Carolina better, being conservative
budget ters, we are now comfortable with working with each other,
(10:23):
understanding what each the House and the Senate and our
respective leadership went to see for the state moving forward.
And we got a couple of glimpses as what we're
going to see in the final Now, remember we don't
have the finalized vote yet.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's tomorrow, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It will be tomorrow. I'm sorry, No, today's Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, Yeah, that back goes on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh, I could be wrong. All right, today or tomorrow,
we're gonna get it. We're going to get the finalized vote,
and we will get this done. And there's some things
in here that I think, you know, there's this s
mortgage borg of stuff that people wanted thirty five million
dollars for the state Department Transportation to cover Aleen expenses
at another what eight hundred let's see at the six
(11:03):
hundred million more for the state's Medicare program. So we're
trying to bridge the gap here.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Can we l that to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
We're going to have to, I guess Michigan Andrews will
be coming down here. Our state's going to continue to
grow now because we're expanding our medicaid forty million for
next gym computing complex at Clemson. There's a lot of
money going to campus this year. Thirteen point two million
towards a battery center facility at the University of South Carolina,
(11:30):
twenty five million toward a new College of Medicine academic
building at the Medical University of South Carolina. And then
there's more money to be spent on colleges and furthering
our education. That has been a priority. We've got a
further education. There is some money in here for K twelve,
but there's a lot of other money for college.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, if you look at these story it says for
college students, tuition rates for in state students will stay
the same. The Budget Conference Committee opted to strip bout
language that would have allowed the schools to increase the
tuition on in state students, and they did that by
giving another sixty five million dollars a year to the
state universities and said now you must freeze the tuitions. Now,
(12:15):
when you look up how much does because it said
sixty five million more, I googled how much does South
Carolina pay state universities annually? The answer comes back. South
Carolina allocates a significant portion of its state's budget to
higher education annually, with state and local funding totaling two
point zero billion billion dollars in fiscal year twenty twenty four.
(12:42):
That is in addition to the one point nine billion
intuition revenue that the universities bring in. So more than
fifty percent of the state university's money comes from your
tax dollars now, and again another one point nine billion
is paid intuition annually. And we've been talking about this.
(13:02):
I can't ever remember the guy's name that we used
to have on when we did the afternoon show on VOC,
but that guy was taught He was like the head
of whatever that non paid government agency was. That Henry
McMaster I think put him in charge of. He was
supposed to look at the costs of education and how
they were spending the money. And he was exposing on
(13:23):
our show ten years ago what a disaster the state
university program is. And one of the main reasons, not
just for state universities but all students in general, was
the amount of money that goes into allowing you to
get a loan. So the federal government, when they decided
to start making these loans to college students, they started
(13:46):
driving up the costs of what it would cost for
everybody to go to college, because you could talk to
somebody who went to college in the nineteen seventies and
they will tell you I paid for it with my
own part time work, because like back in those days,
to go to like the the University of Southern California
was like eleven hundred dollars a year. Now I understand
(14:07):
the times it's today it's like ninety thousand dollars a year.
We haven't had a ninety times increase since nineteen seventy seven.
So they flooded the market with these loans. So there's
everybody wants to go to college. And by the way,
when you look at dropout rates, Jonathan, you've made a
big story out of this year in and year out
about how many freshmen don't finish the year. But when
(14:29):
you just look in general the state of South Carolina,
four hundred and sixty three thousand people have started college
at the state level and not finished. They took out loans,
they paid for their college education and said it's not
for me. I'm of that four hundred plus thousand people,
(14:51):
I would imagine the vast majority of them, I would
say well over two hundred thousand of them knew before
they even signed up this is not for me, this
is for me, This is not what I want to do.
I don't want to go to college, and so they
would have never taken the loan. But the money was
so easy to get. Just sign here.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Even if you didn't get the free money, you got
you got the lottery money, which brought it down by
twenty five hundred dollars per semester. That's the lowest rung.
If you got the forgot the life scholarship, that's five
grand off per semester because they give the money straight
out of the lottery commission, so it makes it more
readily available for youngsters to get in. And as I'm
(15:30):
not going to go through the whole story, but I
know anecdotally because they called me. They called me one
of the guarantee one of my kids a slot for
the spring semester, not the fall, but the spring. And
this particular youngster had been on the bubble to get
in for the for the fall semester and missed it
that much. But nonetheless, I'm saying, wait a minute, the
(15:52):
semester hasn't even started yet, starts tomorrow, and you're telling
me you can guarantee my kid a spot in the fall.
Oh absolutely, And I'm like, okay. So then I started
doing some research and you find out the money that
we spend for the lottery, A lot of this money
comes out of the straight out of the coffers, goes
to freshmen who don't even go back for the second semester.
(16:15):
Many of them don't even finish the first semester. Meanwhile,
we're building more buildings to house these freshmen, and then
in the falls spring semester, that's where you can put
all Columbia's homeless because these buildings are empty. But you
still got the capital expense, you got the maintenance expense,
you got the heating in the air, you took property
(16:38):
off the tax rolls. I mean, you're doing all kinds
of things that are just bobbing in the wake of
this big monster that we use called University of South Carolina,
Clemson University named the public school. They all get money.
But Kelly, eighty percent of Americans tell us in all
these polls as of recent that they don't want taxpayer
money going to pay off college loans for students. Previously,
(17:00):
Now we're just going to front load it with money
and send more money to the universities so that we
keep the tuition low. So now instead of paying off
their loans, you're just going to pay off We're going
to cut out the middleman. We're going to give it
directly to the person's office at your local campus.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I wish that was true, Johnathan, because again, look at that.
It's fifty to fifty two billion dollars a year last
year from you the taxpayer, and then another one point
nine billion dollars paid intuition. The universities are out of control.
But if it's a state run university, what this the
big argument has been, if you haven't been paying attention,
(17:36):
is that the state universities in general do what I
think is identified as let me just check this again. Yep,
it says right here, piss poor job of preparing students
for actual careers in the state of South Carolina. When
they graduate, you can take that degree and fart on
it because it's not going to get you a job
in South Carolina. They are useless at train. The whole
(17:58):
point of the Universe City System as a state run
university was to prepare you to do jobs that we
have available and when we talk to the manufacturers around
this country, around the state, they say there are thousands
and thousands of jobs that we have to go get
kids from Ohio State University Michigan. The list of colleges
(18:20):
that prepare them to work down here is unbelievable. But
our kids, boy, they're very well versed in art. They're
very well versed in a bunch of tailor swift lyrics.
They're very well versed in a bunch of stuff that
will do nothing to help them or us.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And it looks like even with our technical colleges, because
a lot of this money goes to the tech campuses
as well. Particularly, we've all been talking about the availability
and how we should make sure we up the ante
and show up kids how they can use less money
out of their own pocket by taking full advantage of
lottery scholarships, for instance, to go to a technical college
and then be able to go to work immediately with
(19:00):
a lot of the jobs are available. That we keep
promising these manufacturers who move here that we are equipping
the youngest of South Carolinians to make sure in the
workforce that they will be qualified to think all these jobs.
And invariably we don't do it well.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The CEO of Boeing said, probably three or four years
after they got here, we felt like Nikki Haley lied
to us. She promised that they had a bunch of
young people who were ready and trained to go to
work at Boeing, and it turned out there was nobody
in South Carolina who could work here basically doing the
jobs that we needed. We had to go back to Washington,
(19:34):
Washington State, where they're from, and transfer a bunch of
people down here, and we had to import people from
all over the country. South Carolinians are adults. We don't have
anybody can do anything that we want us to do.
And this is a reason to not put another sixty
five million dollars a year in let the universities put
themselves out of business, because what's going to happen is
(19:55):
they're going to keep wanting more and more money. They're
going to get to an area where Clemson and South Care,
Airlina and the rest of them are too expensive for
the vast majority of South Carolinians to go to and
they're not going to come from out of state. If
they're not getting a special deal, you're not getting kids
out of Pennsylvania to come down here if there's not
some sort of incredible deal. So eventually the university will
(20:16):
have to run itself in a way that is beneficial
to the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
One of the things we definitely need to focus on
in our business school possibly is math return on investment. Now,
we got conservatives and Republican conservatives, as they describe themselves,
who are doing Nancy Pelosi math here because invariably the
(20:41):
way they describe it, it is for every dollar you spend,
you're going to get a buck fifty back.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That was the Nancy Pelosi argument. This one's not quite
as much because it's for every well, we spend two
billion a year, but they say we got three billion back. Look,
if that's the way it works, then we ought to
spend twenty billion and get thirty billion back. It could
be the fastest growing state in America.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Is this front? Lad the whole thing in one year,
Give them the entire budget, and look what happens in
the aftermath of it all. Kind of like the big
beautiful bial. Look what's going to happen to the growth
of our state. Kelly, We're on fire all right. Now,
all of this remind reminding, we do not have a
finalized vote yet, but this is the information we have
(21:24):
at this point. So and we do have some money
in here for roads and bridges.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hooray. Yeah. I mean one of the opening line of
the story, at least the one in the state, says,
when lawmakers vote on final spending plan on Wednesday for
the upcoming fiscal year, they will decide whether to keep
four hundred and seventy three million dollars on the table.
They have four hundred They're so flush with cash that
they have not even budgeted four hundred and seventy three
(21:50):
million of it. This is an unbelievable problem that they have,
and that probably part of the reason that they're giving
another sixty five million on top of the two billion
that we're given to the university programs. But you know,
you and I have always made the argument you should
be fixing the roads. And I'm not just talking about
the roads. I really mean the bridges. We have so
many bridges that are near catastrophic levels right now. Did
(22:15):
when you what we say we're spending like twenty million
or something stupid? I mean, you need to spend like
twenty billion to fix these bridges.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, we definitely need the infrastructure. We listen, we gotta
wait till the family dies. We got to wait till
the family.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We had one, didn't We have one up in Clempson.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We had a youngster. We had a young man in
Greenville County who died in the official in the official
report traffic report, the Howld PATROLMA said because of the
deterioration of the road that led to the accident that
took his life. So we have that already on record,
but you get to wait for something horrific. We have
a bridge totally collapse, and a family pulling a camp
or trailer down to Charleston is going to be in
(22:52):
a river somewhere and they're all going to be dead,
and maybe that'll move the needle. If they're related to
a legislator, possibly that's what we're waiting.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, if it's a legislature is probably a lawyer, which
means he'll sue the state and get even richer if
there's no more money for pridging for that too.
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