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Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, I think there's going
to be a lot of Democrats thatgo Folle far too right. Now.
The Democrats are very upset. Theone thing I came told me there's nothing
in the bill for them. There'snot one thing in the bill for democrats,
Kelly Nash, did you say that? I have no idea what he's
talking about, particularly because I havenot been able to review the actual legislative
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texts. All that we've reached asan agreement in principles and the Jonathan and
Kelly Show woc Wow, we're aboutto hear from a South Carolina delicate member
of the House of Representatives, RalphNorman, who is going to disagree with
Kevin McCarthy's description of there's nothing inthe bill for the Democrats. Well,
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it's to me that clip you justplayed is two politicians lying and they're lying
about each other. For him tosay he has not reviewed the text,
what did you think an agreement inprinciple is you're like the leader of the
already in the House. Hello,So who do they run that by?
What did you agree to? Hell? If you and Schumer both step back
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letting Biden handle this. Come on, man, I mean, he's come
on, man. But for KMACto say that there's nothing in here for
the Democrats or to say that theleader of the Democrats said, I guess
I'll see it, there's nothing inhere for us, though, Well,
then he's lying to you. Ifhe doesn't believe there's anything in there for
his own party, he wouldn't bedoing. I'm I'm literally still struggling to
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find out what is what Democrats.I haven't found a Democrat who's upset by
this yet. Now I haven't heardyou would have thought, listen, I'm
sure the Sunday Show has made itmore than available for all of them.
And I'm I see you know alot of newspapers and whatnot running with a
headline that implies both parties followers areupset, and then they always quote what's
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going on with Republicans because they're upset. But what I mean, was it
two point seven trillion is cut inspending something like that. Whatever, it's
a lot of money, there's noquestion about it, a lot of money
cut, but from what? Fromwhat? And it seems as if the
big sticking point for the Republicans isthe fact that the vast majority of the
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eighty seven thousand IRS agents who weregoing to be hired this year in order
to basically try to rip off theAmerican people, intimidate the American public into
overpaying your taxes, and the hopesthat you won't get killed by these people,
that that has now been going tobe reduced to about eighty five thousand
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because they are armed and they willcome to your house and confront you.
I don't I don't see what thewin is for the Republicans. I don't
get it. But guess why,why, good why? We got somebody
on the phone. It's going tohelp us understand all this. Kelly Nash,
Welcome on the phone. Congressman RalphNorman. Good morning, Congressman,
Good morning. You're being quoted allover the internet. Apparently what you've claimed
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is Kevin McCarthy and Joe Biden haveset up a street vending service and they're
selling crap sandwiches. It's worse thanthat. It's multiple crap sandwiches, and
not just one. It's multiple,and we got to put a stop to
it if we can. Well,I mean, is there a possibility,
because I'm not hearing a whole lotof pushback on the left. It just
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seems to be the right that's upset. They keep talking about how both sides
had to make sacrifices. And I'veseen Kevin McCarthy's tweet from last night where
he's talking about, you know,we cut two point one trillion, We've
got the build down to ninety ninepages, we've had time to read it
and digest it. We're changing theculture in DC. That's his position on
this. But it seems as ifeverybody that Jonathan and I trust hates this
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deal. And I'm not hearing anybodyon the left really that outraged. No,
and you're not going to hear thecomplaints from the left because it got
everything they wanted. I hate tosay it, but Kevin had just sold
us out. I mean, he'ssurrendered. And let's go line by line.
I mean, and yes, it'sunder one hundred pages, but anything
of importance you put in writing,we only got the Republican The Republicans only
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got it less than twenty four hoursago. But you know, when you
go line by line, the debtceiling, we had at one point five
to maturing in March of next year, with cuts, with genuine cuts,
not in twenty years, not infive years. Now. He basically took
the took the caps off this administration. You can spend whatever they want and
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it extends through January of two thousandand twenty five, which has passed the
election, which is insane to dothat. Our leverage is, you know,
having him accountable and the bide administration. Besides from being corrupt. Look
at where they spent the money hCOVID clawbikes on dollars. You know,
we're initially we're told, you know, one hundred billion and more. It's
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now less than twenty eight billion.Work requirements had it for SNAP and tannif
and Medicaid, and Medicaid being thebiggest because you've got over ninety six million
Americans on Medicaid. That's the offline. They took that out and they get
this Kelly and Johnathan twenty hours aweek do your listeners, and I mean
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twenty hours a week. Some ofthat can be voluntary. I mean,
it's a joke. Payment for collegetuition by the government. How does that
work with the plumber of the electricianwho didn't go to college. They're having
to bear the expense of paying forsomebody else to go to college. Green
new deal. I mean, youcan go down the line. We didn't
get anything. Not one Democrat votedfor this, for our limit saving you
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know, our bill. Now,you do have a lot of other conservatives
in the House, I say alot. Some of them got a lot
of television coverage over the weekend.Let Chip Roy out of Texas and persons
like him. You got several mentionsbecause of your turn, Sam, which
is what you specifically said in yourtweet. So but on the Senate side,
now, Lindsey Graham says, isgoing to be a mountain of amendments
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to try to dismantle this once ithits the Senate side, do you see.
But they don't have the votes overthere to make any kind of substantial
differences. No I And again heboils back to this no deal is better
than a bad deal. And thebluff that Janet Yellen is saying about the
debts hidden, the debts sailing,she wants to scare the American people in
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the thinking we're going to default.Bond payment is going to be missed,
so security payments are going to bemissed, Veterans payments are going to be
missing. That's not going to happen. They're gonna threaten that. But if
that were the case, why didBiden dilly and dally and travel all over
the world for the last hundred daysand not negotiate. What Kevin should have
done is the minute he said severalmeetings is basically say look until you get
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serious, I'm going home. Y'allcome up with something in writing, and
now at the eleventh hour to saywe're in a rush. Well, it's
going to make sense for American peopleand we've got to reclaim this government.
And the only way we do itis in writing into a sensible bill.
And what Kevin McCarthy has done isunfair. We're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman.
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If it did go past June seventh, I think is the new magic
date that she gave. And you'resaying that what they are projecting would not
have happened, Well, how wouldyou have seen America being affected by this
been on June eighth, June tenth, whatever, Well, the tax revenue
start coming in, I mean fromCalifornia and other states that have been hit
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by different disasters of revenues will becoming in and Jannet Yellen can move the
agency dollars around and pay if sheyou know what she wants. Now,
they want to use this as leverageto get everything they want that binds us,
and we're just not going to goalong with it. We'll find out
how many today, but I've goingto Rules Committee at three o'clock. We'll
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want to have amendments. And ifit's no amendments and need to accept this
sham of a bill as is,I'm a no vote. Now. I
don't know if this is a hickorysmoked turned sandwich that they're cooking up over
there, but I tell you whatI smell coming out of the kitchen,
and they gave us a little bitof this, and the wink is as
good as a nod to a blindDemocrat. When I heard one of them
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say, if Kevin McCarthy puts fortha bill that we can get behind,
but he's gonna lose some Republican votes, will come in and vote for him
to retain his speakership, because youguys have got that recall stipulation in the
House deal for him to be thespeaker. So you got Democrats that are
offering to come to Kevin McCarthy's rescue. Now that just smells to high heaven.
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Not only smells, it is it'sa it's an insane way to treat
the American people. And again,we got zero votes on the original bill.
Now the word is that got overone hundred. So Ken McCarthy is
willing elected Democrats to give them whatthey want and pass a bill that Republicans,
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you know, which we're the onesthat elected him. Not one Democrat
voted for Kevin McCarthy. And themotion of a kate is the procedure you're
talking about that he wanted a committeethat he appointed to have to go through
before you know, he could befired. But in the business arena,
for those listeners who you know,work every day and run a business,
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if you don't do the job,you're fired. And that's what ought to
be ought to happen to politicians.And within his case, I'm not going
there yet because up to this pointhe's talked a good game, but when
he came down to it, defineprint, No, it's it's it's doesn't
make sense. A Congressman Ralph Norman'son the phone, and you know,
I kind of circle back to thisquestion often with politicians who represent South Carolina,
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because ninety five percent of our Republicanswho are representing the state, and
we hear this bad news from ourelected officials, whether it's you, Tim
Scott, Lindsay Graham, whomever.And what can we do as South Carolinians?
I mean, we've sent as manyRepublicans almost as possible. We got
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one in Clyburne. But other thanthat, is there anything else that we
can do to try to help straightenthis thing out. Here's what we've got
to Here's what we've got to regainis our voice. We've got to get
on the phone call the elected representative, isn't it and at every level at
city council, county council, stateHouse, and at the federal level,
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and watch how they vote. Andin the case of I don't expect anybody
to take what I say about thisdeal and without having to prove it.
And when we got it in writing, I can go line eye to my
line eye and say, this iswhat we bargain for, this is what
we got. And when you haveeighty seven thousand rs agents that the Speaker
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said he was going on nicks,which he ended up not doing. The
same thing on the debt limit.That's the most egregious thing. To take
the debt any cap off a Bidenadministration which is corrupt and compromised is Unamerican
and the taxpayers don't deserve that.So when you look at details, that's
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what it is, and it's upto us to try to change and we
may get beat, but so beit. You know, it seems like
the headline of this, as youpointed out, will be the way that
we're going to continue to grow tonational debt. But the insult to injury
on this is, as you mentioned, we're still giving the Internal Revenue Service
billions of dollars to add agents andwe've seen what they've done in the past
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by targeting conservatives, and this underthe Biden administration, do we have any
reason to believe they're not going touse that money to do exactly that.
Again, they have weaponized not justthe RS, but every agency in this
administration. It's really frightening to seewhat they're doing to Americans when you arrest
people school board meetings, as theydid in Loudon County, Virginia. When
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you see what they've done to Januarysix, the fifty some people held in
jail without a trial. If youand I run a traffic light, we
get to go to court and havea day in court. We're innocent until
proven guilty. That's not happening.Look what's happened to Donald Trump when he
rated his home with FBI agents andsyreens blairing. What happened with Joe Biden?
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Nothing, look happened. What's happeningon the investigations? Nothing? People
are wanting consequences, and you know, we just got to get back to
that. I think we can ona positive note, but it's not going
to come without a struggle, andit's not going to come without some sacrifice
on all of us. But asfar as what each of you can do,
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your listeners, voice your opinion,get out, you know, watch
how this plays out, Examine whatI'm saying and others are saying, and
let us know your opinions on it. But I can tell you no deal
is better than a bad, baddeal, And what Kevin McCarthy has surrendered
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is unacceptable and unfair to the Americanpeople. Well, as we talked to
you here on Monday morning, alittle bit before eight o'clock in the morning,
we do appreciate you making time forus. What is the timeline on
this? What is the schedule?When? When shall we all have this
settled out? Well? Watch arules committee. Watch we're all the Republican
Caucus is getting together at seven o'clocktonight. If it goes through rules,
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it'll hit the floor tomorrow. Whathappens in the Senate, I have no
earthly idea. I hope Lindsay's right. I hope they If we don't change
it up and get amendments that weinitially agreed to, then it'll be up
to the Senate. But I don'thave any confidence. I mean, I
don't really put my confidence in theSenate based on what they've done in the
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past. But hopefully I will besurprised, but I think we will.
I don't think. I think thehundred or so purported Democrats are going to
port this bill will pass it,if you know if, which is sad
to say the least, because we'rethe one they didn't vote one of them
before and now here they are coming. It's because they like it and they're
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given everything they want. I've beengiven everything they want. Well, Congressman,
you know you're playing with fire becauseaccording to Jail Paul and other leaders
like AOC, if you don't goalong with this, they're going to be
protesting the streets. We're going toburn down half of America. The progressive
is going to be very upset.Now you're gonna be responsible for all that.
Well, that's what they like,and that's what they propose. And
you know, that's a sad dayin America when you have people even advocating
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that kind of thing. I mean, America wasn't built on tearing cities up
and tearing businesses up of innocent peoplejust because they didn't get their way.
This is about spending your and mytax dollars. The politicians are wanting to
spend your money, not give adime back. I imagine this administration saying
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not one dollar in cuts. It'sinsane. Any business, any family,
you have, cuts every moment ofevery day. And that's that's got to
happen on this Congressman Ralph Norman,UM, I see Steve Scalise has come
out pretty strongly in favor of this. Um. You know, are we
to if anybody is voting for this, are they selling out the conservative movement?
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Yes? I mean not only sellingit out. They that's not what
we agreed to. Well, weleft Washington last week, McCarthy said,
you know, stay will stick withme on this. Well we did,
and what did we get in thefine print? It got taken away.
It eviperated, So like new Gingrichis New Gingrich. Off course as well,
if you remember, Newt was thebiggest critic of the twenty of us,
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and then all of a sudden,when he found out what we had
was would have made sense, hesomehow became his idea. So he is
he's a magician with words. Okay, so but if he's for it,
uh, you know, I disagreewith him, and she let him show
me line by line where I'm wrong. I got a feeling you're gonna pay
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this picture even blacker. But theother concern for most Americans, at least
here in South Carolina, that Italked too, is that Washington math never
works in our favor. And theycan project how much money they're going to
spend, or they're only going tospend this much, are they're gonna save
this much. It never works outfor the taxpayer in that way because there's
too many different loopholes in all ofthis tax writing and all of the legislation
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that is put forth. Well,the day for smoking mirrors is over with.
We don't have the runway well thetime to do that. And the
only one's happy with this bill orthe Chinese, who are just going to
be able to buy more of ourdebt. And the Biden administration, which
as you've seen from the hearings arethey're corrupt, and the compromise, and
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the American people again deserve better thanwhat this is. This isn't what we
bargained for, and somebody's got tohold him accountable, and a group of
us are going to try to dothat. On a side somewhere related issue,
is there any talk amongst the HouseRepublicans at this point about seriously attempting
to impeach Joe Biden? Is comeup? But look who you get the
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giggler in chief? I mean,who won't he's protected because of that,
Well he is, But I meango down the line. Man Orcas,
who's lighted every level on the border. He actually told me the border is
secure. And when I ask himif the border is secure defined unsecure,
and you look like a deer inheadlights. Christopher Ray with THEBI which has
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been weaponized. I mean you gothis judgment is anti Joe Biden's judgment is
anti American, and the people he'sputting in office in different cabinet level positions
are unfair. Americans are shaking theirheads because they're saying, look will be
done now, even if you couldimpeach Joe Biden. At the same time,
you're already impeaching Kamala just over herborder participation or her bailing out people
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who burned down half of the middleof America. Now you're going to end
up with Kevin McCarthy as your personthat be elevated to commander in chief,
and you're saying he's not even aRepublican bail but not on this bill.
Well, Congressman Ralph Norman, keepup the good fight, because this smells
like we're all gonna be eating ahot turred sandwich. Well, we're gonna
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let's go see what we can doand thank you all for your coverage,
and uh, we're gonna continue tofight, all right. Well, as
the congressman said, well, I'llbe listening for the updates after seven tonight
when the Rules Committee beats in theHouse. Now Here in the state of
South Carolina. Everybody's favorite, aturn favorite judge, Judge Newton brought the
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gabble down. We're gonna move iton up that argument on abortion to the
highest court in the South Carolina.Lahand I don't understand. I mean again,
I'm not a legal guy, soI you know, my opinion means
less than nothing. It's probably justconvoluting the issue. But I'm confused in
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the sense that this is not thesame bill that was ruled on by the
South Carolina Supreme Court. They havetweaked it, changed it, and actually
actively put into the language some ofthe things that they thought one of the
Supreme Court justices had kind of hadlike wind block, you know, winked
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at him and said this is howyou would make it leade. They thought
that that's what they had done.So if this is a different one,
wouldn't you have to to me logically, Okay, if you want to stop
this one, you could stop itand then say we're going to send that
back to the Supreme Court. Buthe says he's waiting on a ruling from
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the original one, which is justvery confusing to me. I hope that
you know, if we're still waitingon the original. By the way,
you know what's really insulting is whenyou look at the headline in the state
newspaper, and lots of newspapers arerunning something like this judge block South Carolina
six week abortion band punch the legalcase to all male Supreme Court. Well,
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that's gonna say it. No matterwhat you say you changed in the
wording the legislators, the headline isgoing to be. Now they've got the
Supreme Court, they need to passtheir overreaching legislation into the womb of South
Carolina. South Carolina as women.Now, I had been taught, you
know, I like, you loveto learn at the feet of liberals,
and so that's the best place location. And so when you learn at their
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feet, you learn that men cangive birth, yes, as well,
So you don't have to identify asa female. You've ever been taught that?
Yeah, so I could. ISo abortion is by wow, this
is getting real weird. It isa bisexual issue, and that both males
and females can give birth, accordingto the liberals. And who are we
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to say that, you know,whether it's John Few or whomever, that
they're not identifying as a female rightnow, Which then gives them all the
full protection of being a woman trueunder the liberal So maybe look, if
we could just talk I don't know, one of them, just talk one
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of them in don beady, somebody. Look, just take one for the
team and say you're a woman.Now, you already got a robot.
Identify as a woman. You geta robot so the tucket won't look so
you won't have to wear a tucket. You could actually sit yourself on the
bench comfortably without having a tuck first. It would be so interesting to see
if they if the liberal media turnedon a seventy or a sixty year old
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man who suddenly began identifying as afemale, who's a judge? Would they
turn on them and say something likethe all male court or the two males
and one transgendered male female? Right? Would they? Would they kind of
try to or would they just givethem all the full like what we're supposed
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to do. You don't say transgendered, You say that's a female. Once
they identify as a female, it'sa female. And if they come back
the next day to a male,then they're a male. Who are you
to pass judgment on them? IfI was one of them, that's probably
another leason, lack of law degree, lack of decorum, lack of whatever.
But also that would be awesome though. Just make the switch just for
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ruling day, make the sway,like Michael Jackson said, make that change.
I'm starting with a man. Whoops, I'm a woman in the mirror.
That's great. I don't know whatto see how that plays out,
all right, So everybody's hanging by, hanging with and I see you shiver
with and anticipation. We're gonna seeif we get any savings out of this
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ceiling deal. I'm so dis pointedin what we've come out with. The
irs thing I think is the mostinsulting of it all. But we even
know in Washington speak, you canpresent it in such a way and the
number is going to add up differently. I mean, we can't even get
a damn straight report on them onthe workforce participation rate, the unemployment rate,
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the jobless rate. They always haveto adjust those numbers. You know,
they could promise you we're gonna savethirty one trillion dollars in this new
budget. That it didn't work outthat way, folks. We didn't get
the windfall and the taxes we wereanticipating. There's always a reason, huh,
I thought there said, guess whatwe didn't get this, Guess why?
And guess what. Guess what's backin the mix now the Obama trillion
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dollar coin. So we're not butwe need a lot more of those coins
than we did back in oh Wehave to set up an assembly line for
the met um. I think that, you know again, one of one
of my role models for radio wasRussell Limbaugh. And Russell Limbaugh, although
I'm not as gregarious as him,I try to remain positive like he did.
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Sure I fail often at that,but I'm trying to stay positive in
this. So I was trying tothink what would Russia Limbaugh's angle be in
the face of all of this badnews, and I think it would be.
You know what, folks, thegood news is we have a new
litmus test that we can easily referencehere and see and let the rhinos divide
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themselves from the pack. You nolonger have to guess after this vote.
That's very true where they stand.And this is not an abortion litmus test,
This is not a moral litmus test. This is the original fiscal conservative
litmus test. And you and youcan look at how people vote over the
next seven days or so and decideis that a liberal or is it not?
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And with that in mind, becausethe nation is so against overspending.
Again, we were talking about thewhat was it, eighty five percent of
Americans don't want this deal, anydeal without a drastic reduction in spending.
Eighty five percent. So, bythe way, I just retweeted Tim Scott
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the other earlier, Tim Scott,according to who is this? Who did
he quote here? This is fromthe Bureau of Labor Statistics. The Bureau
of Labor Statistics say that inflation underJoe Biden affects quote the average South Carolina
family seven hundred and ninety three dollarsper month. So in two years,
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a little over two years, yourcost of living is a family of four
in South Carolina. This is nottalking about New York, right, You
have to make eight hundred dollars amonth more to stay put, to stay
where you were in twenty twenty,unless you're making an eight hundred a month
extra. You had it was tenthousand dollar rays and we haven't calculated the
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taxes on that, which by theway, went up, So you're basically
got a fourteen thousand dollars like thatalmost more. You're you're going the wrong
way and to be on plumise whereyou were before Biden took office. When
I retweeted it, I said,because this is remember with the COVID stuff.
By the way, side note,CDC confirms more people, Uh,
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the people with the vaccination had ahigher percentage of people being hospitalized for COVID
than the people without the vaccine.That just came out this weekend as well.
You're not hearing that anywhere however,but their big line on that is
kind of what I imagined the bigline will be from their Democrats. Well,
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yeah, it's bad, but imagine, Jonathan, how much worse it
would have been without the Joe BidenInflation Reduction Acts. She actually named it
that. So you know what wedid for you exactly pumped trillions in there
to make sure that eight hundred dollarsa month is as bad as it's going
to get for you. It wouldhave been a billion dollars a month if
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we hadn't been for me. Again, America, we've learned at the feet
of the Democrat, the most progressiveDemocrat we've ever elected to office. You
needed the extra income to your family. You don't have a you don't have
another revenue Chinese stream coming into yourfamily's budget. That's on you. Yeah,
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that's bad family planning. It's badfamily planning. Should have had a
kid who you could pawn out.Yes, the cartel revenue stream. Will
you take your children and use themas sex slaves? Missed that one too,
didn't you. That's brought to youby the Biden administration. How come
you haven't partnered with some moligarchs yet? That's why I should. I thought
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about Joe Biden's inflation coming in becauseI'm Joe Biden, and I said,
well, if I were ever thepresident, probably it could be a lot
more expensive. I should partner withsome oligarchs in advance. So it's going
to be interesting. I'm glad tosee. He tweeted out something about the
economy. I haven't read its officialstatement, and he had released one about
the debt ceiling deal, and LindsayGraham is all about dismantling it, just
as inflation as a punishing tax thatwe're all being forced to pay. South
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Carolinians deserve a leader who will lowerthe cost of living and then it's got
the picture of the seven hundred ninetythree dollars per month in South Carolina as
the average family, which I'm assumingis a four. Yeah, it's it's
brutal under Joe Biden. Well,let's see how much better it's going to
get after we see it come outof the Rules Committee having to do with
the budget going forward, and let'ssee if Lindsay is going to be able
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to dismantle that. And this bigthing is he wants more defense spending.
Yeah, of course, Lindsay Grahamalways wants more defense spending. But here
we are in May of twenty twentythree, so we are to January of
twenty twenty five, which is wherewe need to be. You've got a
year and a half, You've goteighteen months of more misery. Yeah,
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I'm I am hopeful that after thisdeal, whatever it is, however it
gets worked out in the next weekor two or whatever happens. I don't
we don't pretend to know what's goingto happen. It appears that it's going
to pass, and so on andso forth, but whatever happens that in
the November election, the American peoplelook at things like the seven hundred ninety
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three dollars per month per family becauseof inflation. And they have they I
believe they have put two and twotogether now that because of the Inflation Reduction
Act, that's what actually caused theinflation. We didn't have inflation really going
until we kicked all that extra cashin there. We had a bunch of
it going on during the COVID andwe were pumping billions and trillions in,
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and then we pumped this extra trillionsin and now we've really exploded. It's
definitely bad news. Even if you'renot keeping up on which bill or even
understanding what has been going on,if you haven't been paying attention it at
all, you just know that underTrump, the economy was good. And
then we went to the COVID andI wasn't even working and I was making
money, yeah money. I didn'thave any problems covering our families budget and
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we had disposable income. Now,since Biden's been in office in the past
two years, our budget sucks.Well, imagine how much different. And
I don't know Kevin McCarthy personally.I mean I've met him once or twice.
Seemed pleasant, But did Kevin McCarthyfeel as if this is the best
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deal he can get because he alreadyknows that the Senate is going to the
Democrats. What if we had hada ten seat majority in the Senate and
what if we had had like afifteen twenty person majority in the House.
How much different does that negotiation go. So, even if you don't win
the White House, which I wouldassume we are going to win in twenty
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twenty four, but even if youdidn't get that, I think that at
the local level, people are recognizingthis, we got problems that we need
to get some fiscal responsibility. Andeven if they don't agree with you on
abortion, abortion is such a smallissue for in most people's lives that they
but this pocketbook issue is the biggestthing affecting them when they see whatever food,
(31:17):
gas, clothing. We still haveshortages and stores, which is bizarre
to me. You'll go into theway, Oh, I'm able to get
that for a couple of months.Now, what we are we in like
some va surcharge on Sarachi. Whatare you talking about? And yeah,
and we're still going to be ina world to hurt because we get all
our medications from China. But youknow, before Joe Biden reminded you that
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the reason we have Memorial Day isbecause of his son Bo Thanks Bom.
He was talking the only thing he'sgot to stand on is the abortion issue.
The Democrats only have the abortion issueto stand on going into the selection
in twenty twenty four. Well,I would not make that. Look,
if you are a pro life person, the chances of you being a Democrat
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are not nil but almost nil.Almost. I mean it's about what maybe
one two three percent of people whovote Democrat would also identify as pro life,
which is bizarre that they would dothat. But you don't have to
win over the pro life people.Some people may make the claim that we
need to get more of them tothe polls. Okay, I can believe
that, But if that's their drivingissue, I don't think that they're going
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to come out because they don't thinkthat America will change that much. And
especially if it's a state issue andnot a federal issue. If you're pro
life and you're and you're saying,well, it's now down to the state
level, why am I that interestedin the federal elections? You you'd be
more interested in the state elections.If that's who you are. But we're
talking about a very small percentage ofpeople. Right again, I think that
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you do need more. You needmore conservatives to come out. You also
need the people in the middle ofthe road who really just want I believe
most of them we're talking about thisearlier. I think they want an actor
as the president. They would likesomeone who looks presidential, who speaks presidentially,
who whether they're successful or not,they don't really care. They just
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want to be represented by somebody whodoesn't have a lot of drama. That's
a problem for Donald Trump. Idon't think it's a problem for Ron de
Santis. But it's also a problemfor Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom would be
a great candidate. I've said thatnumerous times. Oprah Winfrey, if that
comes to fruition where she replaces DianeFeinstein, I think she is a force
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to be reckoned with, which isprobably why Gavin Newsom doesn't want to nominate.
Steve Forbes said on Thursday that Bidenwill not be guaranteed, will not
be your Democrat nominee. Who saidthis, Steve Forbes, oh interesting,
the first person to come out andsay on television for the record, mark
my words, I don't know ifthat's what he said, that's what he
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meant. Biden will not be yournominee. It's going to be Newsome.
And everybody thinks Newsom's just saying he'sjust hanging back. Why spend any money
yet, you don't need it.You're gonna come on, you get the
surfboard's gonna be empty, You're gonnahop on top of the wave. You're
gonna ride it all the way in. It's not gonna cost you a whole
lot of money. Yeah, andyou automatically get the Democrat machine, including
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Barack Obama's AI technology. When andif Gavin K. Newsom throws his hat
into the ring, I would assumeeven if Joe Biden said that he was
running still there was some sort ofbackdoor deal with everybody but Biden. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah,he doesn't want to shake up the apple
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cart. He wants the Democrat machine. Sure you know that the Democrat Party,
while it's strong, is certainly notstrong enough to be divided. No,
you need that thing in unison,and you don't want to be in
a position where what policies of JoeBiden is he going to critique and the
moment that it happens. They gotthe confetti machines ready, they got the
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cake ready, they got the speciallighting of the fireworks, all set in
case it happens at night, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times.
They're all in immediately. So whatour savior has been born? Is
Gavin Newsom more likable than all thecandidates, are going to be more likable
(35:19):
than Donald Trump. So I'm noteven going to consider him right now,
although I at this point still believehe's the nominee. But I'll just park
him. But he's not more likablethan and Ron de Santis is not lovable,
but Ron de Santis is. Excuseme, Gavin Newsom is more likable
than Ron de Santis. He's gonnabe I'm trying to think of who else
might be in there. He's He'sprobably more likable than Tim Scott. He's
(35:40):
probably more likable than Nicky Haley.That's what. He's a great candidate.
He's like Joe Cunningham was a greatcandidate, except he had a crazy ex
wife who apparently I just read thison fits Twitter account the other day.
There's a lawsuit between cunning he himand his ex wife now and Will Folks
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has been summoned. He received asummons to appear. Wow, so apparently
there's gonna they're gonna be going backto some of the reporting from twenty twenty
or twenty twenty two, I guessbecause I think, if I understand right
from just the implications, he's suinghis ex wife over the fact that he
lost the governor's race because of her. Huh, Which makes no sense if
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that's the case, Like, youcan't blame even if she was lying about
you, Right, people can dothat in an election. Sure you were
allowed to lie about your credentials,said the judge said, you're a politician.
It's a politician. You expect thetruth out of this guy. Come
on, people snap out. Imagineif Trump suited everybody who lied about and
he's an astronaut, and I mean, the list went on and on.
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I mean, just go ahead andpilot on there. But just getting back
to the likability factor, Gavin Newsomis huge liability factor. But the again
going back to him, I thinkmy good news of the story of the
day story is that we are seeingAmericans revolted over what has happened with our
debt and how it's growing, andit's some one of those things that conservatives
(37:12):
have screamed about for years. Ifyou By the way, I'm trying to
remember the book that I read aboutObama, and it was it was great
that Obama basically anticipated that his increasein government spending would start a huge inflation
problem. But they weighed it outand they discussed it like YadA yadaya,
and then they said, ah,just do it and we'll try to clean
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it up later. And even todaythey still can't really account for why the
inflation didn't happen. Like under theBarack's spending of twenty ten, twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, they really figured thatwas really going to put his twenty
twelve election in great peril, andit never came to be. And they
don't know why. The economists havegone back and this should have happened,
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and that should have happened, andthen it didn't. And so then Trump
was able to spend relatively freely aswell. If you look at Donald Trump
never really cut spending at all.He was very liberal with his fiscal policies,
and now we've got an even moreliberal fiscal policy with Joe Biden,
and now it's finally coming home toroost, the thing that the conservatives have
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been talking about since I was achild, really coming home and a mayor.
I think that's going to be thedeciding factor in the twenty twenty four
election, both at the state,local, and federal level. So I
think the presidency goes to whoever theRepublican nominee is, and I think we
win both the House and the Senatejust based on the debt and the deal
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that's being cut right now, ascrappy as it is, assures the Republican's
victory. Well then one, thanksfor sure. Every race in twenty twenty
four. Every race is going tobe important. It doesn't matter if it's
a local county council, local mayor, governor whoever else is on the ballot
locally, And when you get aroundto the House and the Senate, now
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it's even more heightened because you realizeif you wind up if you end up
with Gavin Newsom as president, Okay, maybe he can actually complete a senatece
unlike Biden, but you're still goingto have these inflationary policies. You're going
to have to have the House andthe Senate to deliver a Vito proof Vito
proof vote to block a lot ofthat. So you're gonna see it's gonna
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be. And here again, theonly thing the Democrat is going to be
at the point to at this pointis abortion. If you don't want to
be if you want to lose yourright to kill a baby any day of
the week, twenty four hours aday, sevent daies a week, get
a convenient store near you, you'vegot to vote Democrat. That's going to
be their only pitch. So goodluck. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Then again, we said that lookingfor the red wave. Good luck,
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we got eighteen months. That's along time. Well, you know,
Republicans continue to amaze me with theirineptitude. You know, you look
at the state level and we've donea great job electing people with an R
next to their name, and yetthe policies have been a disappointment in the
state of South Carolina. On thenational level, they have done the last
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election is a told. I mean, how they re elected what's her face
to be the head of the GOPis unbelievable to me. That was very
frustrating that you could have just hadnobody leading and done a better. Very
frustrating, but this was really anawful election. And somebody started the conversation
that today that I was kind ofpart of, and I asserted myself probably
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shouldn't know. They were talking aboutthe big switch, and they want to
go back, and I want totalk about the history of the Republicans and
the Democratic Party and forget about thebig swis. Let's talk about the big
slide. Because when I was akid, you had you had Democrats like
Nick Feodore, who was a sociallyliberal, fiscally conservative that was a Democrat.
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Yeah, conservative Republicans were fiscally conservative, and then some and socially conservative.
Now where do those people go.We don't have either one. You
got the Progressives and you got thenew Republicans that are not fiscally conservative,
Kevin McCarthy. And we've even gota little bit of slippage going on.
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Otherwise ancillary polls like church participation wouldn'tbe sliding the way it is. Yep.
So we got the big slide goingon, and I tell you,
they're greasing that damn log flume upand we're gonna go straight to hell.
I only hope there's a log flumepool at the end of this ride,
but I got a feeling it's nothingbut burning hot coals. M.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, I think there's going
to be a lot of Democrats thatgo Folle far too right. Now.
The Democrats are very upset. Theone thing I came told me there's nothing
in the bill for them. There'snot one thing in the bill for democrats,
Kelly Nash, did you say that? I have no idea what he's
talking about, particularly because I havenot been able to review the actual legislative
(00:22):
texts. All that we've reached asan agreement in principles and the Jonathan and
Kelly Show woc Wow, we're aboutto hear from a South Carolina delicate member
of the House of Representatives, RalphNorman, who is going to disagree with
Kevin McCarthy's description of there's nothing inthe bill for the Democrats. Well,
(00:43):
it's to me that clip you justplayed is two politicians lying and they're lying
about each other. For him tosay he has not reviewed the text,
what did you think an agreement inprinciple is you're like the leader of the
already in the House. Hello,So who do they run that by?
What did you agree to? Hell? If you and Schumer both step back
(01:06):
letting Biden handle this. Come on, man, I mean, he's come
on, man. But for KMACto say that there's nothing in here for
the Democrats or to say that theleader of the Democrats said, I guess
I'll see it, there's nothing inhere for us, though, Well,
then he's lying to you. Ifhe doesn't believe there's anything in there for
his own party, he wouldn't bedoing. I'm I'm literally still struggling to
(01:29):
find out what is what Democrats.I haven't found a Democrat who's upset by
this yet. Now I haven't heardyou would have thought, listen, I'm
sure the Sunday Show has made itmore than available for all of them.
And I'm I see you know alot of newspapers and whatnot running with a
headline that implies both parties followers areupset, and then they always quote what's
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going on with Republicans because they're upset. But what I mean, was it
two point seven trillion is cut inspending something like that. Whatever, it's
a lot of money, there's noquestion about it, a lot of money
cut, but from what? Fromwhat? And it seems as if the
big sticking point for the Republicans isthe fact that the vast majority of the
(02:14):
eighty seven thousand IRS agents who weregoing to be hired this year in order
to basically try to rip off theAmerican people, intimidate the American public into
overpaying your taxes, and the hopesthat you won't get killed by these people,
that that has now been going tobe reduced to about eighty five thousand
(02:35):
because they are armed and they willcome to your house and confront you.
I don't I don't see what thewin is for the Republicans. I don't
get it. But guess why,why, good why? We got somebody
on the phone. It's going tohelp us understand all this. Kelly Nash,
Welcome on the phone. Congressman RalphNorman. Good morning, Congressman,
Good morning. You're being quoted allover the internet. Apparently what you've claimed
(03:00):
is Kevin McCarthy and Joe Biden haveset up a street vending service and they're
selling crap sandwiches. It's worse thanthat. It's multiple crap sandwiches, and
not just one. It's multiple,and we got to put a stop to
it if we can. Well,I mean, is there a possibility,
because I'm not hearing a whole lotof pushback on the left. It just
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seems to be the right that's upset. They keep talking about how both sides
had to make sacrifices. And I'veseen Kevin McCarthy's tweet from last night where
he's talking about, you know,we cut two point one trillion, We've
got the build down to ninety ninepages, we've had time to read it
and digest it. We're changing theculture in DC. That's his position on
this. But it seems as ifeverybody that Jonathan and I trust hates this
(03:46):
deal. And I'm not hearing anybodyon the left really that outraged. No,
and you're not going to hear thecomplaints from the left because it got
everything they wanted. I hate tosay it, but Kevin had just sold
us out. I mean, he'ssurrendered. And let's go line by line.
I mean, and yes, it'sunder one hundred pages, but anything
of importance you put in writing,we only got the Republican The Republicans only
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got it less than twenty four hoursago. But you know, when you
go line by line, the debtceiling, we had at one point five
to maturing in March of next year, with cuts, with genuine cuts,
not in twenty years, not infive years. Now. He basically took
the took the caps off this administration. You can spend whatever they want and
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it extends through January of two thousandand twenty five, which has passed the
election, which is insane to dothat. Our leverage is, you know,
having him accountable and the bide administration. Besides from being corrupt. Look
at where they spent the money hCOVID clawbikes on dollars. You know,
we're initially we're told, you know, one hundred billion and more. It's
(04:56):
now less than twenty eight billion.Work requirements had it for SNAP and tannif
and Medicaid, and Medicaid being thebiggest because you've got over ninety six million
Americans on Medicaid. That's the offline. They took that out and they get
this Kelly and Johnathan twenty hours aweek do your listeners, and I mean
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twenty hours a week. Some ofthat can be voluntary. I mean,
it's a joke. Payment for collegetuition by the government. How does that
work with the plumber of the electricianwho didn't go to college. They're having
to bear the expense of paying forsomebody else to go to college. Green
new deal. I mean, youcan go down the line. We didn't
get anything. Not one Democrat votedfor this, for our limit saving you
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know, our bill. Now,you do have a lot of other conservatives
in the House, I say alot. Some of them got a lot
of television coverage over the weekend.Let Chip Roy out of Texas and persons
like him. You got several mentionsbecause of your turn, Sam, which
is what you specifically said in yourtweet. So but on the Senate side,
now, Lindsey Graham says, isgoing to be a mountain of amendments
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to try to dismantle this once ithits the Senate side, do you see.
But they don't have the votes overthere to make any kind of substantial
differences. No I And again heboils back to this no deal is better
than a bad deal. And thebluff that Janet Yellen is saying about the
debts hidden, the debts sailing,she wants to scare the American people in
(06:28):
the thinking we're going to default.Bond payment is going to be missed,
so security payments are going to bemissed, Veterans payments are going to be
missing. That's not going to happen. They're gonna threaten that. But if
that were the case, why didBiden dilly and dally and travel all over
the world for the last hundred daysand not negotiate. What Kevin should have
done is the minute he said severalmeetings is basically say look until you get
(06:50):
serious, I'm going home. Y'allcome up with something in writing, and
now at the eleventh hour to saywe're in a rush. Well, it's
going to make sense for American peopleand we've got to reclaim this government.
And the only way we do itis in writing into a sensible bill.
And what Kevin McCarthy has done isunfair. We're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman.
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If it did go past June seventh, I think is the new magic
date that she gave. And you'resaying that what they are projecting would not
have happened, Well, how wouldyou have seen America being affected by this
been on June eighth, June tenth, whatever, Well, the tax revenue
start coming in, I mean fromCalifornia and other states that have been hit
(07:36):
by different disasters of revenues will becoming in and Jannet Yellen can move the
agency dollars around and pay if sheyou know what she wants. Now,
they want to use this as leverageto get everything they want that binds us,
and we're just not going to goalong with it. We'll find out
how many today, but I've goingto Rules Committee at three o'clock. We'll
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want to have amendments. And ifit's no amendments and need to accept this
sham of a bill as is,I'm a no vote. Now. I
don't know if this is a hickorysmoked turned sandwich that they're cooking up over
there, but I tell you whatI smell coming out of the kitchen,
and they gave us a little bitof this, and the wink is as
good as a nod to a blindDemocrat. When I heard one of them
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say, if Kevin McCarthy puts fortha bill that we can get behind,
but he's gonna lose some Republican votes, will come in and vote for him
to retain his speakership, because youguys have got that recall stipulation in the
House deal for him to be thespeaker. So you got Democrats that are
offering to come to Kevin McCarthy's rescue. Now that just smells to high heaven.
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Not only smells, it is it'sa it's an insane way to treat
the American people. And again,we got zero votes on the original bill.
Now the word is that got overone hundred. So Ken McCarthy is
willing elected Democrats to give them whatthey want and pass a bill that Republicans,
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you know, which we're the onesthat elected him. Not one Democrat
voted for Kevin McCarthy. And themotion of a kate is the procedure you're
talking about that he wanted a committeethat he appointed to have to go through
before you know, he could befired. But in the business arena,
for those listeners who you know,work every day and run a business,
(09:26):
if you don't do the job,you're fired. And that's what ought to
be ought to happen to politicians.And within his case, I'm not going
there yet because up to this pointhe's talked a good game, but when
he came down to it, defineprint, No, it's it's it's doesn't
make sense. A Congressman Ralph Norman'son the phone, and you know,
I kind of circle back to thisquestion often with politicians who represent South Carolina,
(09:52):
because ninety five percent of our Republicanswho are representing the state, and
we hear this bad news from ourelected officials, whether it's you, Tim
Scott, Lindsay Graham, whomever.And what can we do as South Carolinians?
I mean, we've sent as manyRepublicans almost as possible. We got
(10:13):
one in Clyburne. But other thanthat, is there anything else that we
can do to try to help straightenthis thing out. Here's what we've got
to Here's what we've got to regainis our voice. We've got to get
on the phone call the elected representative, isn't it and at every level at
city council, county council, stateHouse, and at the federal level,
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and watch how they vote. Andin the case of I don't expect anybody
to take what I say about thisdeal and without having to prove it.
And when we got it in writing, I can go line eye to my
line eye and say, this iswhat we bargain for, this is what
we got. And when you haveeighty seven thousand rs agents that the Speaker
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said he was going on nicks,which he ended up not doing. The
same thing on the debt limit.That's the most egregious thing. To take
the debt any cap off a Bidenadministration which is corrupt and compromised is Unamerican
and the taxpayers don't deserve that.So when you look at details, that's
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what it is, and it's upto us to try to change and we
may get beat, but so beit. You know, it seems like
the headline of this, as youpointed out, will be the way that
we're going to continue to grow tonational debt. But the insult to injury
on this is, as you mentioned, we're still giving the Internal Revenue Service
billions of dollars to add agents andwe've seen what they've done in the past
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by targeting conservatives, and this underthe Biden administration, do we have any
reason to believe they're not going touse that money to do exactly that.
Again, they have weaponized not justthe RS, but every agency in this
administration. It's really frightening to seewhat they're doing to Americans when you arrest
people school board meetings, as theydid in Loudon County, Virginia. When
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you see what they've done to Januarysix, the fifty some people held in
jail without a trial. If youand I run a traffic light, we
get to go to court and havea day in court. We're innocent until
proven guilty. That's not happening.Look what's happened to Donald Trump when he
rated his home with FBI agents andsyreens blairing. What happened with Joe Biden?
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Nothing, look happened. What's happeningon the investigations? Nothing? People
are wanting consequences, and you know, we just got to get back to
that. I think we can ona positive note, but it's not going
to come without a struggle, andit's not going to come without some sacrifice
on all of us. But asfar as what each of you can do,
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your listeners, voice your opinion,get out, you know, watch
how this plays out, Examine whatI'm saying and others are saying, and
let us know your opinions on it. But I can tell you no deal
is better than a bad, baddeal, And what Kevin McCarthy has surrendered
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is unacceptable and unfair to the Americanpeople. Well, as we talked to
you here on Monday morning, alittle bit before eight o'clock in the morning,
we do appreciate you making time forus. What is the timeline on
this? What is the schedule?When? When shall we all have this
settled out? Well? Watch arules committee. Watch we're all the Republican
Caucus is getting together at seven o'clocktonight. If it goes through rules,
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it'll hit the floor tomorrow. Whathappens in the Senate, I have no
earthly idea. I hope Lindsay's right. I hope they If we don't change
it up and get amendments that weinitially agreed to, then it'll be up
to the Senate. But I don'thave any confidence. I mean, I
don't really put my confidence in theSenate based on what they've done in the
(13:50):
past. But hopefully I will besurprised, but I think we will.
I don't think. I think thehundred or so purported Democrats are going to
port this bill will pass it,if you know if, which is sad
to say the least, because we'rethe one they didn't vote one of them
before and now here they are coming. It's because they like it and they're
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given everything they want. I've beengiven everything they want. Well, Congressman,
you know you're playing with fire becauseaccording to Jail Paul and other leaders
like AOC, if you don't goalong with this, they're going to be
protesting the streets. We're going toburn down half of America. The progressive
is going to be very upset.Now you're gonna be responsible for all that.
Well, that's what they like,and that's what they propose. And
you know, that's a sad dayin America when you have people even advocating
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that kind of thing. I mean, America wasn't built on tearing cities up
and tearing businesses up of innocent peoplejust because they didn't get their way.
This is about spending your and mytax dollars. The politicians are wanting to
spend your money, not give adime back. I imagine this administration saying
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not one dollar in cuts. It'sinsane. Any business, any family,
you have, cuts every moment ofevery day. And that's that's got to
happen on this Congressman Ralph Norman,UM, I see Steve Scalise has come
out pretty strongly in favor of this. Um. You know, are we
to if anybody is voting for this, are they selling out the conservative movement?
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Yes? I mean not only sellingit out. They that's not what
we agreed to. Well, weleft Washington last week, McCarthy said,
you know, stay will stick withme on this. Well we did,
and what did we get in thefine print? It got taken away.
It eviperated, So like new Gingrichis New Gingrich. Off course as well,
if you remember, Newt was thebiggest critic of the twenty of us,
(15:43):
and then all of a sudden,when he found out what we had
was would have made sense, hesomehow became his idea. So he is
he's a magician with words. Okay, so but if he's for it,
uh, you know, I disagreewith him, and she let him show
me line by line where I'm wrong. I got a feeling you're gonna pay
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this picture even blacker. But theother concern for most Americans, at least
here in South Carolina, that Italked too, is that Washington math never
works in our favor. And theycan project how much money they're going to
spend, or they're only going tospend this much, are they're gonna save
this much. It never works outfor the taxpayer in that way because there's
too many different loopholes in all ofthis tax writing and all of the legislation
(16:26):
that is put forth. Well,the day for smoking mirrors is over with.
We don't have the runway well thetime to do that. And the
only one's happy with this bill orthe Chinese, who are just going to
be able to buy more of ourdebt. And the Biden administration, which
as you've seen from the hearings arethey're corrupt, and the compromise, and
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the American people again deserve better thanwhat this is. This isn't what we
bargained for, and somebody's got tohold him accountable, and a group of
us are going to try to dothat. On a side somewhere related issue,
is there any talk amongst the HouseRepublicans at this point about seriously attempting
to impeach Joe Biden? Is comeup? But look who you get the
(17:08):
giggler in chief? I mean,who won't he's protected because of that,
Well he is, But I meango down the line. Man Orcas,
who's lighted every level on the border. He actually told me the border is
secure. And when I ask himif the border is secure defined unsecure,
and you look like a deer inheadlights. Christopher Ray with THEBI which has
(17:32):
been weaponized. I mean you gothis judgment is anti Joe Biden's judgment is
anti American, and the people he'sputting in office in different cabinet level positions
are unfair. Americans are shaking theirheads because they're saying, look will be
done now, even if you couldimpeach Joe Biden. At the same time,
you're already impeaching Kamala just over herborder participation or her bailing out people
(17:55):
who burned down half of the middleof America. Now you're going to end
up with Kevin McCarthy as your personthat be elevated to commander in chief,
and you're saying he's not even aRepublican bail but not on this bill.
Well, Congressman Ralph Norman, keepup the good fight, because this smells
like we're all gonna be eating ahot turred sandwich. Well, we're gonna
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let's go see what we can doand thank you all for your coverage,
and uh, we're gonna continue tofight, all right. Well, as
the congressman said, well, I'llbe listening for the updates after seven tonight
when the Rules Committee beats in theHouse. Now Here in the state of
South Carolina. Everybody's favorite, aturn favorite judge, Judge Newton brought the
(18:36):
gabble down. We're gonna move iton up that argument on abortion to the
highest court in the South Carolina.Lahand I don't understand. I mean again,
I'm not a legal guy, soI you know, my opinion means
less than nothing. It's probably justconvoluting the issue. But I'm confused in
(18:57):
the sense that this is not thesame bill that was ruled on by the
South Carolina Supreme Court. They havetweaked it, changed it, and actually
actively put into the language some ofthe things that they thought one of the
Supreme Court justices had kind of hadlike wind block, you know, winked
(19:18):
at him and said this is howyou would make it leade. They thought
that that's what they had done.So if this is a different one,
wouldn't you have to to me logically, Okay, if you want to stop
this one, you could stop itand then say we're going to send that
back to the Supreme Court. Buthe says he's waiting on a ruling from
(19:40):
the original one, which is justvery confusing to me. I hope that
you know, if we're still waitingon the original. By the way,
you know what's really insulting is whenyou look at the headline in the state
newspaper, and lots of newspapers arerunning something like this judge block South Carolina
six week abortion band punch the legalcase to all male Supreme Court. Well,
(20:03):
that's gonna say it. No matterwhat you say you changed in the
wording the legislators, the headline isgoing to be. Now they've got the
Supreme Court, they need to passtheir overreaching legislation into the womb of South
Carolina. South Carolina as women.Now, I had been taught, you
know, I like, you loveto learn at the feet of liberals,
and so that's the best place location. And so when you learn at their
(20:30):
feet, you learn that men cangive birth, yes, as well,
So you don't have to identify asa female. You've ever been taught that?
Yeah, so I could. ISo abortion is by wow, this
is getting real weird. It isa bisexual issue, and that both males
and females can give birth, accordingto the liberals. And who are we
(20:53):
to say that, you know,whether it's John Few or whomever, that
they're not identifying as a female rightnow, Which then gives them all the
full protection of being a woman trueunder the liberal So maybe look, if
we could just talk I don't know, one of them, just talk one
(21:15):
of them in don beady, somebody. Look, just take one for the
team and say you're a woman.Now, you already got a robot.
Identify as a woman. You geta robot so the tucket won't look so
you won't have to wear a tucket. You could actually sit yourself on the
bench comfortably without having a tuck first. It would be so interesting to see
if they if the liberal media turnedon a seventy or a sixty year old
(21:41):
man who suddenly began identifying as afemale, who's a judge? Would they
turn on them and say something likethe all male court or the two males
and one transgendered male female? Right? Would they? Would they kind of
try to or would they just givethem all the full like what we're supposed
(22:03):
to do. You don't say transgendered, You say that's a female. Once
they identify as a female, it'sa female. And if they come back
the next day to a male,then they're a male. Who are you
to pass judgment on them? IfI was one of them, that's probably
another leason, lack of law degree, lack of decorum, lack of whatever.
But also that would be awesome though. Just make the switch just for
(22:29):
ruling day, make the sway,like Michael Jackson said, make that change.
I'm starting with a man. Whoops, I'm a woman in the mirror.
That's great. I don't know whatto see how that plays out,
all right, So everybody's hanging by, hanging with and I see you shiver
with and anticipation. We're gonna seeif we get any savings out of this
(22:56):
ceiling deal. I'm so dis pointedin what we've come out with. The
irs thing I think is the mostinsulting of it all. But we even
know in Washington speak, you canpresent it in such a way and the
number is going to add up differently. I mean, we can't even get
a damn straight report on them onthe workforce participation rate, the unemployment rate,
(23:18):
the jobless rate. They always haveto adjust those numbers. You know,
they could promise you we're gonna savethirty one trillion dollars in this new
budget. That it didn't work outthat way, folks. We didn't get
the windfall and the taxes we wereanticipating. There's always a reason, huh,
I thought there said, guess whatwe didn't get this, Guess why?
And guess what. Guess what's backin the mix now the Obama trillion
(23:41):
dollar coin. So we're not butwe need a lot more of those coins
than we did back in oh Wehave to set up an assembly line for
the met um. I think that, you know again, one of one
of my role models for radio wasRussell Limbaugh. And Russell Limbaugh, although
I'm not as gregarious as him,I try to remain positive like he did.
(24:03):
Sure I fail often at that,but I'm trying to stay positive in
this. So I was trying tothink what would Russia Limbaugh's angle be in
the face of all of this badnews, and I think it would be.
You know what, folks, thegood news is we have a new
litmus test that we can easily referencehere and see and let the rhinos divide
(24:26):
themselves from the pack. You nolonger have to guess after this vote.
That's very true where they stand.And this is not an abortion litmus test,
This is not a moral litmus test. This is the original fiscal conservative
litmus test. And you and youcan look at how people vote over the
next seven days or so and decideis that a liberal or is it not?
(24:49):
And with that in mind, becausethe nation is so against overspending.
Again, we were talking about thewhat was it, eighty five percent of
Americans don't want this deal, anydeal without a drastic reduction in spending.
Eighty five percent. So, bythe way, I just retweeted Tim Scott
(25:15):
the other earlier, Tim Scott,according to who is this? Who did
he quote here? This is fromthe Bureau of Labor Statistics. The Bureau
of Labor Statistics say that inflation underJoe Biden affects quote the average South Carolina
family seven hundred and ninety three dollarsper month. So in two years,
(25:40):
a little over two years, yourcost of living is a family of four
in South Carolina. This is nottalking about New York, right, You
have to make eight hundred dollars amonth more to stay put, to stay
where you were in twenty twenty,unless you're making an eight hundred a month
extra. You had it was tenthousand dollar rays and we haven't calculated the
(26:04):
taxes on that, which by theway, went up, So you're basically
got a fourteen thousand dollars like thatalmost more. You're you're going the wrong
way and to be on plumise whereyou were before Biden took office. When
I retweeted it, I said,because this is remember with the COVID stuff.
By the way, side note,CDC confirms more people, Uh,
(26:27):
the people with the vaccination had ahigher percentage of people being hospitalized for COVID
than the people without the vaccine.That just came out this weekend as well.
You're not hearing that anywhere however,but their big line on that is
kind of what I imagined the bigline will be from their Democrats. Well,
(26:48):
yeah, it's bad, but imagine, Jonathan, how much worse it
would have been without the Joe BidenInflation Reduction Acts. She actually named it
that. So you know what wedid for you exactly pumped trillions in there
to make sure that eight hundred dollarsa month is as bad as it's going
to get for you. It wouldhave been a billion dollars a month if
(27:08):
we hadn't been for me. Again, America, we've learned at the feet
of the Democrat, the most progressiveDemocrat we've ever elected to office. You
needed the extra income to your family. You don't have a you don't have
another revenue Chinese stream coming into yourfamily's budget. That's on you. Yeah,
(27:29):
that's bad family planning. It's badfamily planning. Should have had a
kid who you could pawn out.Yes, the cartel revenue stream. Will
you take your children and use themas sex slaves? Missed that one too,
didn't you. That's brought to youby the Biden administration. How come
you haven't partnered with some moligarchs yet? That's why I should. I thought
(27:51):
about Joe Biden's inflation coming in becauseI'm Joe Biden, and I said,
well, if I were ever thepresident, probably it could be a lot
more expensive. I should partner withsome oligarchs in advance. So it's going
to be interesting. I'm glad tosee. He tweeted out something about the
economy. I haven't read its officialstatement, and he had released one about
the debt ceiling deal, and LindsayGraham is all about dismantling it, just
as inflation as a punishing tax thatwe're all being forced to pay. South
(28:15):
Carolinians deserve a leader who will lowerthe cost of living and then it's got
the picture of the seven hundred ninetythree dollars per month in South Carolina as
the average family, which I'm assumingis a four. Yeah, it's it's
brutal under Joe Biden. Well,let's see how much better it's going to
get after we see it come outof the Rules Committee having to do with
the budget going forward, and let'ssee if Lindsay is going to be able
(28:38):
to dismantle that. And this bigthing is he wants more defense spending.
Yeah, of course, Lindsay Grahamalways wants more defense spending. But here
we are in May of twenty twentythree, so we are to January of
twenty twenty five, which is wherewe need to be. You've got a
year and a half, You've goteighteen months of more misery. Yeah,
(29:02):
I'm I am hopeful that after thisdeal, whatever it is, however it
gets worked out in the next weekor two or whatever happens. I don't
we don't pretend to know what's goingto happen. It appears that it's going
to pass, and so on andso forth, but whatever happens that in
the November election, the American peoplelook at things like the seven hundred ninety
(29:25):
three dollars per month per family becauseof inflation. And they have they I
believe they have put two and twotogether now that because of the Inflation Reduction
Act, that's what actually caused theinflation. We didn't have inflation really going
until we kicked all that extra cashin there. We had a bunch of
it going on during the COVID andwe were pumping billions and trillions in,
(29:48):
and then we pumped this extra trillionsin and now we've really exploded. It's
definitely bad news. Even if you'renot keeping up on which bill or even
understanding what has been going on,if you haven't been paying attention it at
all, you just know that underTrump, the economy was good. And
then we went to the COVID andI wasn't even working and I was making
money, yeah money. I didn'thave any problems covering our families budget and
(30:11):
we had disposable income. Now,since Biden's been in office in the past
two years, our budget sucks.Well, imagine how much different. And
I don't know Kevin McCarthy personally.I mean I've met him once or twice.
Seemed pleasant, But did Kevin McCarthyfeel as if this is the best
(30:33):
deal he can get because he alreadyknows that the Senate is going to the
Democrats. What if we had hada ten seat majority in the Senate and
what if we had had like afifteen twenty person majority in the House.
How much different does that negotiation go. So, even if you don't win
the White House, which I wouldassume we are going to win in twenty
(30:53):
twenty four, but even if youdidn't get that, I think that at
the local level, people are recognizingthis, we got problems that we need
to get some fiscal responsibility. Andeven if they don't agree with you on
abortion, abortion is such a smallissue for in most people's lives that they
but this pocketbook issue is the biggestthing affecting them when they see whatever food,
(31:17):
gas, clothing. We still haveshortages and stores, which is bizarre
to me. You'll go into theway, Oh, I'm able to get
that for a couple of months.Now, what we are we in like
some va surcharge on Sarachi. Whatare you talking about? And yeah,
and we're still going to be ina world to hurt because we get all
our medications from China. But youknow, before Joe Biden reminded you that
(31:40):
the reason we have Memorial Day isbecause of his son Bo Thanks Bom.
He was talking the only thing he'sgot to stand on is the abortion issue.
The Democrats only have the abortion issueto stand on going into the selection
in twenty twenty four. Well,I would not make that. Look,
if you are a pro life person, the chances of you being a Democrat
(32:02):
are not nil but almost nil.Almost. I mean it's about what maybe
one two three percent of people whovote Democrat would also identify as pro life,
which is bizarre that they would dothat. But you don't have to
win over the pro life people.Some people may make the claim that we
need to get more of them tothe polls. Okay, I can believe
that, But if that's their drivingissue, I don't think that they're going
(32:27):
to come out because they don't thinkthat America will change that much. And
especially if it's a state issue andnot a federal issue. If you're pro
life and you're and you're saying,well, it's now down to the state
level, why am I that interestedin the federal elections? You you'd be
more interested in the state elections.If that's who you are. But we're
talking about a very small percentage ofpeople. Right again, I think that
(32:50):
you do need more. You needmore conservatives to come out. You also
need the people in the middle ofthe road who really just want I believe
most of them we're talking about thisearlier. I think they want an actor
as the president. They would likesomeone who looks presidential, who speaks presidentially,
who whether they're successful or not,they don't really care. They just
(33:12):
want to be represented by somebody whodoesn't have a lot of drama. That's
a problem for Donald Trump. Idon't think it's a problem for Ron de
Santis. But it's also a problemfor Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom would be
a great candidate. I've said thatnumerous times. Oprah Winfrey, if that
comes to fruition where she replaces DianeFeinstein, I think she is a force
(33:32):
to be reckoned with, which isprobably why Gavin Newsom doesn't want to nominate.
Steve Forbes said on Thursday that Bidenwill not be guaranteed, will not
be your Democrat nominee. Who saidthis, Steve Forbes, oh interesting,
the first person to come out andsay on television for the record, mark
my words, I don't know ifthat's what he said, that's what he
(33:54):
meant. Biden will not be yournominee. It's going to be Newsome.
And everybody thinks Newsom's just saying he'sjust hanging back. Why spend any money
yet, you don't need it.You're gonna come on, you get the
surfboard's gonna be empty, You're gonnahop on top of the wave. You're
gonna ride it all the way in. It's not gonna cost you a whole
lot of money. Yeah, andyou automatically get the Democrat machine, including
(34:16):
Barack Obama's AI technology. When andif Gavin K. Newsom throws his hat
into the ring, I would assumeeven if Joe Biden said that he was
running still there was some sort ofbackdoor deal with everybody but Biden. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah,he doesn't want to shake up the apple
(34:37):
cart. He wants the Democrat machine. Sure you know that the Democrat Party,
while it's strong, is certainly notstrong enough to be divided. No,
you need that thing in unison,and you don't want to be in
a position where what policies of JoeBiden is he going to critique and the
moment that it happens. They gotthe confetti machines ready, they got the
(34:58):
cake ready, they got the speciallighting of the fireworks, all set in
case it happens at night, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times.
They're all in immediately. So whatour savior has been born? Is
Gavin Newsom more likable than all thecandidates, are going to be more likable
(35:19):
than Donald Trump. So I'm noteven going to consider him right now,
although I at this point still believehe's the nominee. But I'll just park
him. But he's not more likablethan and Ron de Santis is not lovable,
but Ron de Santis is. Excuseme, Gavin Newsom is more likable
than Ron de Santis. He's gonnabe I'm trying to think of who else
might be in there. He's He'sprobably more likable than Tim Scott. He's
(35:40):
probably more likable than Nicky Haley.That's what. He's a great candidate.
He's like Joe Cunningham was a greatcandidate, except he had a crazy ex
wife who apparently I just read thison fits Twitter account the other day.
There's a lawsuit between cunning he himand his ex wife now and Will Folks
(36:01):
has been summoned. He received asummons to appear. Wow, so apparently
there's gonna they're gonna be going backto some of the reporting from twenty twenty
or twenty twenty two, I guessbecause I think, if I understand right
from just the implications, he's suinghis ex wife over the fact that he
lost the governor's race because of her. Huh, Which makes no sense if
(36:27):
that's the case, Like, youcan't blame even if she was lying about
you, Right, people can dothat in an election. Sure you were
allowed to lie about your credentials,said the judge said, you're a politician.
It's a politician. You expect thetruth out of this guy. Come
on, people snap out. Imagineif Trump suited everybody who lied about and
he's an astronaut, and I mean, the list went on and on.
(36:51):
I mean, just go ahead andpilot on there. But just getting back
to the likability factor, Gavin Newsomis huge liability factor. But the again
going back to him, I thinkmy good news of the story of the
day story is that we are seeingAmericans revolted over what has happened with our
debt and how it's growing, andit's some one of those things that conservatives
(37:12):
have screamed about for years. Ifyou By the way, I'm trying to
remember the book that I read aboutObama, and it was it was great
that Obama basically anticipated that his increasein government spending would start a huge inflation
problem. But they weighed it outand they discussed it like YadA yadaya,
and then they said, ah,just do it and we'll try to clean
(37:35):
it up later. And even todaythey still can't really account for why the
inflation didn't happen. Like under theBarack's spending of twenty ten, twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, they really figured thatwas really going to put his twenty
twelve election in great peril, andit never came to be. And they
don't know why. The economists havegone back and this should have happened,
(37:58):
and that should have happened, andthen it didn't. And so then Trump
was able to spend relatively freely aswell. If you look at Donald Trump
never really cut spending at all.He was very liberal with his fiscal policies,
and now we've got an even moreliberal fiscal policy with Joe Biden,
and now it's finally coming home toroost, the thing that the conservatives have
(38:19):
been talking about since I was achild, really coming home and a mayor.
I think that's going to be thedeciding factor in the twenty twenty four
election, both at the state,local, and federal level. So I
think the presidency goes to whoever theRepublican nominee is, and I think we
win both the House and the Senatejust based on the debt and the deal
(38:40):
that's being cut right now, ascrappy as it is, assures the Republican's
victory. Well then one, thanksfor sure. Every race in twenty twenty
four. Every race is going tobe important. It doesn't matter if it's
a local county council, local mayor, governor whoever else is on the ballot
locally, And when you get aroundto the House and the Senate, now
(39:02):
it's even more heightened because you realizeif you wind up if you end up
with Gavin Newsom as president, Okay, maybe he can actually complete a senatece
unlike Biden, but you're still goingto have these inflationary policies. You're going
to have to have the House andthe Senate to deliver a Vito proof Vito
proof vote to block a lot ofthat. So you're gonna see it's gonna
(39:27):
be. And here again, theonly thing the Democrat is going to be
at the point to at this pointis abortion. If you don't want to
be if you want to lose yourright to kill a baby any day of
the week, twenty four hours aday, sevent daies a week, get
a convenient store near you, you'vegot to vote Democrat. That's going to
be their only pitch. So goodluck. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Then again, we said that lookingfor the red wave. Good luck,
(39:49):
we got eighteen months. That's along time. Well, you know,
Republicans continue to amaze me with theirineptitude. You know, you look
at the state level and we've donea great job electing people with an R
next to their name, and yetthe policies have been a disappointment in the
state of South Carolina. On thenational level, they have done the last
(40:10):
election is a told. I mean, how they re elected what's her face
to be the head of the GOPis unbelievable to me. That was very
frustrating that you could have just hadnobody leading and done a better. Very
frustrating, but this was really anawful election. And somebody started the conversation
that today that I was kind ofpart of, and I asserted myself probably
(40:31):
shouldn't know. They were talking aboutthe big switch, and they want to
go back, and I want totalk about the history of the Republicans and
the Democratic Party and forget about thebig swis. Let's talk about the big
slide. Because when I was akid, you had you had Democrats like
Nick Feodore, who was a sociallyliberal, fiscally conservative that was a Democrat.
(40:52):
Yeah, conservative Republicans were fiscally conservative, and then some and socially conservative.
Now where do those people go.We don't have either one. You
got the Progressives and you got thenew Republicans that are not fiscally conservative,
Kevin McCarthy. And we've even gota little bit of slippage going on.
(41:13):
Otherwise ancillary polls like church participation wouldn'tbe sliding the way it is. Yep.
So we got the big slide goingon, and I tell you,
they're greasing that damn log flume upand we're gonna go straight to hell.
I only hope there's a log flumepool at the end of this ride,
but I got a feeling it's nothingbut burning hot coals. M.
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