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June 3, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, president and his administration are delivering on the
promises from the campaign, and they are already bringing common
sense and a strong economy to the American people.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Kelly Nash, once we get to the majority, which I'm
hoping in praying, we get to next cycle that allows
me to start to open up and do the things
that would look like in impeachment. Jonathan and Kelly Show woc.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Jasmine Crockett ready to do the things that would look
like an impeachment because of the plan, the pain that
the man is inflicting upon the American people.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, you know, Jasmine Crockett understands the assignment, and the
assignment is we must fight Trump. We don't necessarily have
to win, We just have to fight him. So if
we can make it a peer that we're impeaching him,
if we can make it a peer that we're indicting
him again, if we can make it a peer that
we're doing anything and everything within our power to stop

(01:01):
whatever the motive of Donald Trump is, it doesn't matter
what it is. If Donald Trump wants to help an
elderly woman across the street, you better run her.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Over cripple her well, and Jasmine's got Republicans coming up
and telling her how much that they love her.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I would love to know who that is.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I would too. It was an interesting interview. Hey, this
is Jonathan Russell's killing Nash thinks for being here South Carolina?
Is the third of June. All right, now coming up today? Well,
nothing's really coming up today because we're talking about the
Big Beautiful Bill. There's gonna be plenty of arguments going
on behind the scenes, and you're going to see some
senators out and even Senator Kennedy seemed to be lost

(01:39):
for words in an interview, so I guess it was yesterday.
But there's a lot of debate going on about different
aspects of the Big Beautiful Bill. How is he going
to make it through the Senate? What's that going to
do to the origination of the process when it came
out of the House. That's like the biggest story of
the day. And Republicans apparently are going to be highlighted
than interviews, particularly on MSNBC and the like, showing that

(02:05):
they really don't have a unified effort and there's a
crack in the Republican Party now there's a difference of opinion. Yeah,
we see a good bit of that, and again I
think that's a good thing. Do I like the five
trillion dollars attitude of the national debt ceiling? Now? No,
I don't, But we'll see what the finalized number is

(02:25):
once they finished negotiating.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, I mean, it's look, we're living through a time.
We've never seen anything like this before, so it's definitely exciting.
It's something that's memorable, but it's also very painful right
now to see what's happening in Washington and hoping that.
I mean, we obviously we don't even know everything that's
in the big beautiful bill, so we can only just

(02:48):
take away what has been suggested is in the bill.
And obviously there's interpretations from both sides of the isle,
or even on the same sides of the isle. You
have some saying it'll do this and others saying it'll
do that. And I'm just talking about the Republicans now.
So we know where Donald Trump feels about it, and
there's in the Speaker of the House feels that way
about it. We'll see if we can get the Senate

(03:09):
to feel that way as well.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, the great thing for the Republicans is they agree
on a couple of things. Hey, secure the border. There's
going to be extra money in there to make sure
we get that done. Now, the economy overall, in particular
and encompassing I should say not in particular, but encompassing
the tariff scenario. Certainly, that is going to be part
of what he called the external revenue service, which is

(03:31):
going to help us if we're ever going to be
a to dig our way out of this debt, which
does fly in the face of and the fact that
he was talking about being able to bring the debt down,
why you want to be able to expand it. But
I'm not an economist, so I don't know what kind
of growth period they're talking about where you can actually
continue with the way that the budget process at this
point until we're able to get rein in some of

(03:53):
the Democrats spending, so that you can also have enough
money to make sure that you're putting it in the
right places like the border, that we can actually secure
the nation's border and keep a lot of these people out.
As the Democrats continued to say the Republicans can't get
their act together. Now we're seeing the spillover of what's
been preached by the Democrat Party, plainly with the scenario

(04:14):
in Colorado now highlighting again the tragedy that was even
in DC recently. So, I don't know, We've got two
clear different paths here, and Jasmin Crockett says that the
Trump path is the wrong one, so she wants to
put us back on the path of what burning cities
down on another summer of love.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, Look, anything that a Democrat says right now, well,
it's not just me. I mean I was watching CNN yesterday.
That guy who was a named Harry Enton. He's incredulous.
He can't figure out why, nor could any of the
other people figure out why the Republicans are now viewed

(04:52):
as the party of the middle class. If you go
back to he first brought up the eeteen eighty nine
and nineteen eighty nine, it was something like seventy nine
percent of Americans felt like the Democrats were the party
of the middle class. As recently as twenty fourteen or so,

(05:13):
it was still the majority of Americans felt like it
was the middle class was being represented best by the Democrats.
There was a huge shift during the Biden administration and
by twenty twenty two, it was basically a tie. And
now the Republicans are in the lead. When you look
at the twenty twenty four polling who's better to handle

(05:36):
the economy, Donald Trump had a nine point lead and
that one over Kamala Harris or the Democrats. And now
a year into the administration, which again, this is what
the media is saying, and they can't understand it. He's
going against your wishes because tariffs poll horribly. Nobody wants tariffs.
And yet Donald trup and you had the big four

(05:59):
toh one case tacups with the stock market and all
that sort of stuff, and yet Donald Trump has increased,
He's now up to he got a plus twelve now
on the economy. How can he possibly be doing this?
And it's because the Democrats exposed themselves. When I think
what we're going to see with Joe Biden is a
monumental shift the kind that we haven't seen in maybe

(06:23):
our lifetimes, that the Democrats have to figure out a
way to rebrand, rework the entire platform for the party.
Because we were able to see it not just Joe
Biden's incompetence, but we were actually able to see their
plans implemented, and how quickly and horrifically it went for
average Americans.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
That would have been one of the beautiful things for
the socialists at heart, that if Bernie Sanders had actually
gotten the nomination as opposed to Joe Biden, or if
they would have put it this way, if they had
listened to Bernie Sanders more so, because Bernie was always
preaching on temperance, don't push it too hard. Socialist agenda
is one baby step at a time, because you got

(07:06):
to sneak up on them. It's like a snake in
the grass. You got to sneak up on them. But
I was thinking about this last night. Early this morning,
I should say, I woke up and have my peanut
burn and jelly sandwich. I've noticed something about sour dough
bread and don't like you need to buy a loaf
of that like every other day. It goes stale pretty quick.
Oh okay, so cro tip. Yeah, I was suffering through that.

(07:29):
But I was watching and looking at some of the
poll numbers as I wake up in the middle of
the night. Naturally I go to sleep under the warm
glow of Fox News, but I will watch the CNN
of the like, and I was watching it about one
to thirty in the morning, and I have one of
those feelings. It's kind of like, if you are a
superstitious and a baseball fan, you don't ever point out,
you know, he's got a no hitter going. You don't

(07:50):
say that out loud. Okay, that will draw hot dogs
thrown at you. Do not say that out loud. You're superstitious,
maybe you're even biblical. Do not speak those words as
if they were. Do not speak them. So I'm sitting
there looking at the polling and I'm like, good god man,
Donald Donald Trump. As much crap as they're throwing at him,

(08:14):
as many cute little memes about tacos, and all the
ringing of the hands over the loss of Social Security
and Medicare and Medicaid benefits, of all the preaching that's
going on from the pollpit of the Democrat Party, from
all the far leftist progressives and even the moderates, and

(08:34):
ah ah, James Cliburn got to come out and tell
you what a pissed for a country Donald Trump is
going to make this It ain't sticking. And it's growing
for Trump and the Republicans so much so that. This
is the part I don't want to say out loud.
I was wondering last night as I was eating my

(08:55):
peanut butter and jelly toast. All Right, Democrats brought us
COVID last time. What are they going to do this
time to throw the Trump administration off the rails? What
the hell are we looking at here? Well, you're gonna
see some kind of huge Democrat inspired Summer of Love
burning down cities again. Or is it going to be

(09:15):
something even more so dastardly that you nearly threaten the
American people stop liking Donald Trump or there's gonna be
more pain come in your way.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Well, I mean it's hard for them to sell that again.
So if you go back to twenty twenty, the Summer
of Love as some remember it, the Black Lives Matter movement,
all that sort of stuff, there had been a pretty
i would say, unchecked narrative that was happening in America

(09:45):
starting back in like twenty fourteen or whatever it was
with Michael Brown, that there was systemic racism built into
America's fabric and that it was resulting in the massacre
of young black men by police officers. That's why you
got the defund the police movement. You had all this

(10:09):
chaos happening in the country, and there was a lot
of white guilt associated with that, and so a lot
of people just kind of said, Ah, maybe maybe they're right.
I don't know, I've never dealt with any of these
things before. I don't feel like I was targeted by police.
They all seem to say that they were targeted by police,
and it just kinda was allowed to develop. Well. By

(10:32):
twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, the Black Lives Matter
movement had been exposed as an absolute fraud that was
designed specifically to introduce Marxist principles into the fabric of America.
The people who were running it were running a get
rich quick scheme as well. And then the data came

(10:54):
back as people started digging deeper and deeper into these
crime statistics and found out, Oh, it's not true. Black
men are not dying at record rates. It's this is
all a made up story. So now you in order
to get the riots going, because it doesn't work if
you don't have class warfare. Now they are at that point,

(11:14):
it was like a race warfare thing. There is a
legitimate opportunity I believe unfortunately, because as the West continues
to grow, you're seeing a bigger and bigger separation between
the haves and the have nots. Now, the have knots
in this country still do quite well, but there's a

(11:34):
shrinking middle class. And the millionaires, or specifically the people
who are worth say three hundred million dollars or more,
they are getting rich at record rates right now. And
it's not even like they're working at it. They're not
trying to get richer. It's just the way the system
is designed. And then, so as inflation hits and has

(11:55):
been hitting, your sixty thousand dollars a year job that
would have considered a sort of comfortable gig in twenty
eighteen now feels like I can barely get by on this.
And then you see other people doing really, really really well,
and you're like, dah, So you can create this envy
where it could become a class warfare battle as opposed

(12:16):
to a race So you'd have the lower middle class, whites, blacks,
Latinos and everybody against the upper class, regardless of their race.
If you're a Michael Jordan or you know some you're
gonna be getting pelted as well.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And MSNBC and CNN certainly are taking more opportunities as
a brand new one. Now there's independent think tanks of
economists come out and make these points, like Kelly mentioned
that the gap between the have and have nots is
growing primarily because of the number of the ultra rich
have grown exponentially over the past decade. And you think back, well,

(12:53):
do you think COVID had much to do with that?
Under the Biden administration, You're not going to hear that.
You're only going to hear the Donald Trump is propping
up his rich friends. So as you saw more and
more small business people either get a run out of
business or lose their money, then you and you propped
up corporates like Walmart and Amazon, so that more and
more people who already had the money set aside or

(13:16):
in the market were able to expedite that as we
came out of the COVID or exponentially grow that as
we came out of COVID. But you're not We're just
going to skip over the Biden administration like the past
four years didn't happen. As he pumped more money into
the Democrat Party, major donors coming out of our pockets
and going straight into what it ended up being a

(13:37):
money laundering operation. I'm sure that we'll pay dividends as
we had in the midterms. We're only going to hear
that Donald Trump is propping up his rich friends now.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And just so people were clear, when you're talking about
propping up people or whatever, you could talk if Donald Trump,
let's just say Donald Trump took fifty billion dollars and
sprinkled it amongst his friends. That doesn't affect literally anything.
We're talking about tens of trillions of dollars that is
being made by the billionaires right now. It has nothing

(14:08):
to do with the politics. It just has to do
with the way the governments are structured around the world.
So again, Donald Trump, I keep seeing this, you know,
attack on the Trump family that they're getting rich, richer
than they've ever been, that they've got these deals going on.
And you know, I saw George Stepanopolis over the weekend
almost crying. We've never seen anything like it. It's outrageous.

(14:32):
That is nothing compared to what's what the real deal is.
And again, you know, I love the Dave Chappelle bit
where Dave was doing a stand up comedian thing and
he says, you know, I'll never forget where I was.
It's kind of like how you I forget which it was. Oh,
when you when you heard Barack Obama say we're just
days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America,

(14:55):
you always say, I'll never forget where I was when
he said.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It, take you to the chair where I was sitting.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Says the exact same thing. When they were talking. It
was a debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and
Hillary Clinton said, pay your taxes and Donald Trump said,
I'd be an idiot to pay my taxes because you
have rigged the system. I am one of the benefactors
of the system being rigged. And he was like, and

(15:23):
America is like, what a rich white guy's telling you
that the system? And he was like, so, I'd be
a fool to pay any taxes because your people are benefacting.
So you're never going to change the tax system. I've
already told you how to improve the tax system, how
to actually close the gap. And I'm going to try
to do it when I'm the president. And as you know,
he wasn't able to do it. Congress fought him, Congress

(15:46):
is fighting him now. He says he's trying to close
a lot of these loopholes. That's part of the big
Beautiful Bill allegedly. So while you may see tax rates
go up slightly for the wealthy, what the real increase
would be is it the reduction in what they can claim. So, yeah,
Donald Trump wasn't lying in twenty fifteen. The system has

(16:07):
been rigged against the middle class forever, and it has
continues to be rigged against us.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Here in the state of South Carolina, I've seen several
things coming up. North Charleston has had two more. I
guess that's a city council. Yeah, city council members. They
were going through a real difficult time down there with
some underhanded under the table deals. Apparently all the new

(16:35):
city council members are pledging for more transparency and anti
corrupt governing. That's a good thing. Up in Greenville, the
Greenville City I believe, not county, but city council has
decided that they're going to curtail the spending that they
have been setting aside for their Preservation and Historic Fund,

(16:58):
where they I guess money on landmarks for the city
of the county and where they create green spaces with
money they set aside from the budget. Now they're doing
that primarily so that they can give some property tax relief.
And then you read further into the story this is
in the posting courier, and you realize that the real

(17:20):
preservation is the council members who did not vote for
the property tax relief last time all got voted off council.
So they're preserving their seats. That's what they're doing. But
in fact, congratulations, City of Greenville, you're going to see
a reduction or not an increase in your property taxes. However,

(17:41):
on the back burner here in Richland County, you're going
to be looking at an increase in your property taxes
in your home and your auto as it's being which is.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
What again, people responding to their constituents. If you go
around Richland County right now, just go talk to roughly
five hundred people, probably two hundred and eighty to three
hundred of them would say, yes, I would like property
taxes increased because we want more services available in this county.
If you go to Lexington County, it'll be the exact opposite.

(18:13):
You would probably have two hundred and eighty to three
hundred say do not raise taxes because I don't want
more government services around here. So these people get elected
because that's what the constituents want, and that's the way
government works. If that's what you want, you're going to
get it eventually. And so you know, we live in
Richland County and so we are the victims of these

(18:34):
high tax rates, and we are seeing a shrinking of
Richland County. And I'm not saying it's a cataclysmic development.
I am saying that it certainly puts Richland County behind
the eight ball. It hurts the city of Columbia. The
City of Columbia is unfortunately in Richland County. So you know,
Daniel Rickaman will tell you we can see the growth

(18:54):
that we're losing out on just based on tax rates,
the amount of businesses that are leaving Richland. When you
live in Richland County and you wonder why you don't
have good restaurants, there's a good reason right there. Why
don't we have better stores? That's a reason right there.
Why don't we have people with money moving into Richland County.
There's another reason right there. It's what you want. This
is what they wanted. So we can either stay and

(19:15):
fight and try to change it, or we can just
do it, like Alan Wilson keeps telling me, get the
hell out of Richland, come to Lexington.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, because the person I was talking to you yesterday
who's a podcast list, just said, what are we going
to do about it? I said, the only thing you
can do is move. Yeah, well, you're never going to
You're never going to be in a position. Well, I
wouldn't say never. It would be a hard push for
you to be in a position where you going to
see some conservative persons takeover or actually gain more seats

(19:43):
on Richland County Council. You're lucky if you got one,
and we do, but you're always going to be outvoted
in Richland County. So as I was having that conversation yesterday,
then all these other county council and the city council
stories started popping up in the news. You know in
Greenville County there's a little more of a bubble there.
You got to listen to more people conserved or concerned

(20:05):
about what they're paying in taxes. Richland County, we need
more services. Keep bringing it.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the mindset. And there's also
I mean, you know, there's look in Richland County, it's
obviously a lot more African Americans, and African Americans traditionally
vote Democrat, and so you know, you're looking at a
county that's roughly forty percent African American.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
And so I'm just gonna I'm thinking about most I
was going down my street the other day and I
told you, cause, Sally and now we're having a conversation
much like this one. I said, that's the problem. That's
the problem. We're just driving past houses on my street.
She's the problem because they're voting for all these people.
This is why you got to put up with it.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, and it's you know some people, and I don't
want to pass judgment. I think most people know how
I feel about these people. Is they feel like it's
the morally correct thing to do, and they always preface it,
or usually preface it with in the richest nation in
the world, we should be able to do whatever the

(21:08):
thing is that's bothering them, that's not being done. And
so in order to achieve that, we need to raise
taxes on everybody in order to achieve this goal that
they have set for themselves. If you were to ask me.
I believe that it is incumbent upon community organizations, particularly churches,

(21:29):
in order to provide these needs, if there are needs.
The safety net has become a hammock in a lot
of these places where people who can work don't work,
and people who are not motivated anymore to get back
into the workforce, and so their lives are actually more
miserable than they would be if they had jobs, and

(21:51):
they're stuck. They can't get out of the hammock, which,
by the way, have you ever been in a hammock?
It is tough to get out of a hammock. It's
an ordeal. You got to be in good shape to
get out of the hammock. But they can't go back
to work because there's a penalty. You're penalized for coming
off of welfare. You're penalized for coming off of these
types of programs. So it's we If you're doing it

(22:14):
for a moral reason, I would say your moral I
appreciate your moral kindness. I'm saying that you're actually having
the opposite effect on the people, and that if you
were to conserve that money, you would actually inspire those
individuals to live better lives.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm saying that is the equivalent of a boatload of
sympathy misplaced. And you know the old saying about a boat.
A boat as a hole in the water you throw
money into and you never fill it up. I'm saying
that's a boatload of sympathy right there, a misguided You
just keep throwing money in it, You're never going to
fill it up.
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