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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan, they spit
we hit. Nobody's gonna spit on our police offices. Nobody's
gonna spit on our military.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Kelly nash us lamar for sending marine. But really, what
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I mean, if we see danger to our country or
to our citizens, it's about law and order.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And Kelly show woc man.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It was a big weekend, not only in California, but
a big weekend for Trump. I mean, think about it.
He's negotiating with g and at the same time, apparently
he's going to be to negotiate him with Gavin Newsom.
Both of them want to take over the US. I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Gavin Newsom sent a letter to Pete HeiG Seth saying
that if you do not remove your ICE officials, well
not the ICE officials, I'm sorry. If you do not
remove the National Guard, because Pete Hegseth is responsible for
the military, We're going to sue the Trump administration. We
don't want your help, we don't need your help. American
lives are not in I would I'm surprised he would
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take that tone because I remember Gavin Newsoen being very upset.
By January sixth, Jonathan and I was. I looked it up.
There was an estimated twenty four hundred people involved with
the Capitol riot. Yesterday alone on the one oh one
freeway there was over six thousand people firing what's described
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as commercial grade fireworks, meaning these are the kinds that
don't just blow off a hand, they blow a hole
through you. It's like a rocket launcher. That's what they were.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
To mar with some of the rocket launcher.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, they're firing rocket far more dangerous than the armed
crutch guy. He had a crutch that was the most
that was the only weapon on the property. Yeah, some
bear spoil possibly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The people in California way way outnumbered and way more
armed than what happened at the Capitol riot. And on
top of it, there was a definite attack on police office.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh yeah, when you end up burning police cars, you
certainly are already attacking the police. And then we saw
them through And when you start throwing bottles filled with fluid,
we don't know what the fluid. They don't know what
the fluid is. Remember that was part of the Antifa.
Whenever they came through Columbia, they threw like two bottles
of They could have been bottle of water. Don't know
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what's in, probably urine, but they threw two bottles and
that was enough of that because that's when Richland County
responded with rubber bullets.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, and Leon Lott proudly proclaimed, yes, we're firing rubber
bullets at the crowd and listen, you have to deter
this type of behavior otherwise it's emboldened.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So in the state of South Carolina, the headlined seemed
promising but curious. South Carolina law enforcement increases ICE partnerships
since President Trump's re election. Now, when you start reading
into the story, you're learning about localcipalities and also counties
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and the like, and sled in particular, any law enforcement agency.
When the year started, only three South Carolina law enforcement
agencies had agreements to participate in the federal program, the
US Immigration and Customs Enforcements to eighty seven G program,
which allows local and state law enforcement agencies to carry
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out some and there are different levels you can sign
up for some immigration and enforcement duties.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, and you got to wonder, why was it only
three counties or Lexington and York Counties that were participating.
Alan Wilson. The Attorney General, has sent a letter early
this year saying, please, for the safety of all South Carolinians,
get your police departments in line with this, have them
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sign this agreement. And you know, Mark Keel, you brought
it up this morning. Mark Kiel doesn't want that. Apparently
the Sled chief said, we don't need it, We don't
want it that do we have better sources on the ground.
He sounds like these LA County people who are saying,
you're gonna have a chilling factor on our sources. They
if they think that we might be deporting people. Well, Mark,
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you know what, it is a chilling thing, and it
should be a chilling thing because neither you at SLED
or any of the local law enforcement down in Charleston
did a damn thing at Ladson when you had an
out of control nightclub. What was it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's called the.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Alamo, I think, yes, the Alamo, which is just filled
with cartel members and gangbangers and all kinds of people.
Thankfully you did have ICE agents come in and arrest
I think it was one hundred and eighteen of them
that night and get them out of our country.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We need that. Yeah, it doesn't mention that particular location
in that bust in particular, not in this story.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They're not going to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
South Carolina Law Enforcement Division agreement is to participate in
the task force model. Now, I remember we talked about this.
Of a different models you can choose to work with ICE.
One is just to deliver and serve notice, so you
sign up for that, and then the full one is well.
The other one is the task force model. It kills
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that He's concerned about those in the immigrant community not
trusting SLAB because of its involvement in immigration enforcement. His
agency is a community relations unit which works to establish
rapport with minority groups.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Are the mark Are they legal immigrants or are they illegal?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But you ask He points out to how immigrants who
are undocumented do have protections to stay in the in
the country if they are a victim or a witness
of a crime. Quote, We're not going to turn our
head to crimes committed against those here in our country
because they may be illegal. Certainly we don't and we wouldn't.
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Gil said, We're going to seek justice for them, just
like we would anybody else. Quote.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay, you can say all that, Mark, but actually they're
going if they call it a crime, yes, they're going.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So they're gonna get through with that court proceeding where
they testify against somebody else, then they will be going.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And it's like Tom Holman said this morning on Morning Joe,
which kind of flabbergasted the guy who hosts the fourth
Hour there or whatever his name is, I can't remember,
but they said, well, is everybody a violent criminal, because
you described a lot of violent criminals that you picked
up in LA counties. Absolutely not. There's a lot of
decent people who just happened to be hanging around with them.
I would then question, if they're so decent, why are
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they hanging out with cartel members. But they haven't committed
any crimes that we're aware of. But if you're caught
hanging out with a cartel member, you're going to.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Get your hands off. That three year old who's just
here for an education, admonished Governor Newsom. And that's kind
of a paraphrase. I can't remember exactly what it was about,
pretty close to what he said, but you know, the
three year old hanging out in the in in and
amongst or in the neighborhood where they get caught up
with collateral damage. Goes back to the argument that if
your local police agency would only work with ICE once
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you arrested the worst of the worst and you had
them in custody, if you turn them over, then ICE
would no longer be going to the Alamo. They're picking
up everybody, including the three year old who's just there
for an education.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, what the embarrassment for SLED is they should
have handled the Alamo years ago. Charleston County Police should
have handled the Alamo years ago. LATS and Police department
should have handled the Alamo years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Charleston was hamstrung by their own sheriff for a while.
But now there's a new sheriff in town, then they're
going to sign up, so they'll be a part of it.
But you're right, previous to that, they didn't. They weren't
concerned about the Alamo. Now there's a woman here named
Laura Collins. She is the director of the George W.
Bush SMU Economic Growth Initiative, and a vast majority given
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immigration enforcement lies with the federal governments. That's what she said.
Why is she inquoted in this story? I don't know.
Local and state enforcement have a role when it comes
to immigration. But the question is to what degree. Well,
as we're already learned in the first part, ma'am, there's
three different degrees they can choose. Sometimes they're convicted of
crimes of Federal immigration enforcement doesn't always know who they are,
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so state and local enforcement does and has an important
role to play because they're policing all of us, not
just native born people. Yes, they are. She added that
the agreements aren't necessarily bad. I think there's a tendency
sometimes when we talk about immigration enforcement to think of
all these automatically as being a horrible thing. There are
degrees to this. Sometimes it's really necessary, sometimes it's not,
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and there's a lot in its execution. Look, if you
hear illegally and whatever happens, whether you're jaywalking or you
happen to be hanging out with a gang member, if
you get swept up in collateral action and you're here
illegally undocumented, then Tom Hoban's already told you for months
now you're going to be deported.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And the President told you that, and the American people
have told you that. That's why they overwhelmingly voted for
Donald Trump. They do not want you in our country.
And you cannot move forward in this country. That's the
other problem. You're stuck. You're now stuck in America. You
need to go home then and actually apply, not reapply
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because you didn't apply to begin with. Then apply to
come here. What you see happening in La Jonathan is
the equivalent of the Gaza Strip right now. Mexico wants
La back.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You can tell by the way that they're flying their
own flag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So if you look at the Gaza Strip, it is
internationally recognized as Israel's property. The Gaza Strip was awarded
to Israel. The Palestinians are saying, but that's our ancestral homeland.
Ignore the fact that Israel was their homeland before it
was your homeland. That's not important now. What's important now
is that it is actually the property of Israel. Los
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Angeles at one time was the property of Mexico. It
is no longer. The Mexicans want it back. They are
moving in in a way to try to take it
away from US. I shudder to think what would happen
under a president Kamala Harris right now, because we would
have already lost southern California.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, if you just look back at Obama and Biden.
Because there's a paragraph here that says SLED, which signed
its agreement in late February, has been statutorily required to
join since two thousand and eight, but it hasn't been
able to until this year. Anybody wonder why was that?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because Mark Hell hates it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No. In a previous article, it says with Trump in office,
there's a renewed interest in the administration to increase participation
as applications during the Obama and Biden administrations were paused.
So in two thousand and eight, we paused that application
and the enforcement thereof. So now you have, as Kelly mentioned,
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got You've got Mexico flessing its muscle, with its very
proud protesters flying Mexican and other flags, but flying a
lot of Mexican flags, taking over the streets of Los Angeles.
And Trump has already said and Tom Homan's untold you,
Governor Newsom that he's here to sweep up any illegals
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in the country. Now I realize that Governor Newsom is
now thrown down the gauntlet. He would love for Tom
Homan to arrest him. He claims that Homan said he's
gone to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Tom Holman did say I'm going to arrest him. I
will personally arrest him and any other government He said,
I'm not going to fall for that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I never threatened to arrest him.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, that's not what he said. On Friday night, Tom
Holman said Friday night, I will personally arrest I will
personally arrest any government official who attempts to interfere with
the actions of our department.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We have the.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Federal authority to arrest these people. We are going to
arrest these people, and if you, as a government official,
try to stop us, you personally will be arrested as well. So,
Gavin Newsom, you want to go out to a protest
and push an ICE agent, you'll find your ass in jail.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Newsom is begging to be arrested because that puts him
ahead of the conversation of Gee taking over the country.
He thinks that if he gets arrested with his mugshot
in his orange jumpsuit, that that's going to propel him
to the top of the Democrat Party and certainly help
him lead the way for the mid term victory over
the Republicans in the House and the Senate and then
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capture the White House and then bring America back to
its glory, well again of a non sovereign country when you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Look at what's going on with immigration right now. There
was a poll that came out Sunday from CBS News. Now,
this poll was conducted before the Friday night festivities began,
but again CBS News shocked beyond on shock that seventy
four percent of Americans agree every illegal should go, every
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one of them should go. CBS News can't believe it.
They side with the president. Should they be arrested, Yes,
should they be deported even if they've never done anything violent? Yes,
America wants these illegals out of our country.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, I know that we had the senior senator from
California in an interview yesterday, and unfortunately, in listening to
it on MSNBC, I was interrupted by something else, so
I didn't hear all of his comments. But he is he,
much like Devin Newsom, was already calling for the Department
of Defense to back off with its use of the
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National Guard and certainly stand down from its use of
possibly five hundred marines as they will be called in
to open up. Was it one there?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
One oh one is where they they had six thousand yesterday.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
They want to be able to open up the interstate
for the citizens to be able to use it so
everybody can get to work on Monday morning. Well for
those people that.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Work, well again, you've got Camp Pendleton just down the street,
so maybe five hundred Marines, but they have not been
called up yet. You're gonna have two thousand National Guardsmen.
They had three hundred there yesterday. Most of these National Guardsmen,
by the way, live in La County. You know, these
are people defending their own territory, right like when you have.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Like the ship them in from Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, they act like they're coming in from like Louisiana
or someplace like that. They're the federal troops are marching
on us now. I saw Maxine Waters almost crying yesterday.
You got hey, I want you detect photographs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They have guns.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
They have guns, and they must be I don't know
the orders are to shoot to kill, but I would
assume that's what the orders are.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Otherwise, why would they have guns for SLED. Even though
they've worked with ICE and Homeland Security Investigation agents in
the past, state law enforcement didn't have the authority to
take certain actions. We have a legal authority to detain
people if we believe that they're here in the US illegally.
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We have the legal right to interview and interrogate folks
or interview people about whether or not they are here
in the country legally. This is a quote from Mark Keel.
So it gives us the same sort of authority that
ICE and Homeland Security has in some cases that we
did not have in the past, and that was during
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the pause of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So back to Gavin Newsom hoping to get arrested so
that it'll help him propel him to the top of
the Democrat Party. The problem for the Democrats is that
you're on the wrong side of the issue, I mean
very wrong, and so you're going to win. He's right,
he will become the front runner for the presidency. If
he gets arrested standing up for illegals, he'll begin the
front runner for the Democrat Party. He will not be
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the front runner for the presidency. When you see Margaret
Brennan yesterday on CBS reading a poll that shows sixty
two percent of likely voters, now this is an over
what we never got sixty two percent of likely voters
to agree on just about anything. It's usually like a
fifty two to forty eight type of issue. Sixty two
percent of registered likely voters said that they would support
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a government program that deports all migrants who are living
in the United States illegally. She can't believe it. That
is where we're at though. We're sick and tired of
paying for all of these people, and we're else by
the way we're I think a lot of people are
sick and tired of the crime being put against these people.
They're victims just as much as anybody else. The cartel
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brought them here. They thought they were going to get
a better life than they got to America, and they
realized we're going to keep getting abused by cartel members.
We're going to and we can even be abused by
American citizens. Anybody can abuse us. We have no protections
because as soon as we call it in, we're getting deported.
The best thing for you right now is to get
the hell out of here on your own. Don't let
them catch you self. Deport You can then reapply for citizenship.
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They're promising to expedite that process, so there's going to
be an opportunity for you to come and be a
tax paying a member of society. But you're not allowed
to do that right now.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And speaking of some of the persons who are affected
by crime by other illegals, if they in fact or
hear as a victim and are illegal in the country,
certainly we will protect those persons from being harmed. But
it doesn't necessarily protect your no grant you citizenship if
you offer any type of collaboration with law enforcement in
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order to bring a crime to an end. There was
a comment here by one of the states long to us,
a long time Midlands immigrant. I even say, I'm not
sure how to pronounce this last night, so I won't
mispronounce it. His quote is, we will collaborate with them,
we will share information. And he argued though that federal
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immigration officials should be the ones handling enforcemental and state
law enforcement. This is a federal issue. This should not
be dealt with. This should be dealt with by federal authorities.
They are the ones that should be addressing this issue
and applying the law. Correct, So I gotcha. But if
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in fact we already have law enforcement who have arrested
a person for whatever crime brought them to the attention
of the local law enforcement who are in fact either
probably already known as criminal elements from other parts of
the world, or just simply here illegally, and they were
jaywalking again with a jaywalking charge that still does not
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immune them from being able to be enforced with association
of local law enforcement with ICE. They don't have. ICE
shouldn't have to do its own investigation. For Pete's sake,
we got a lot of people to move through the system.
Why in the world would you think that helping your
community by hamstringing local law enforcement and enforcing it only
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by federal officials. Where Martin Keel's already pointed out, we
got federal officials here, but not nearly as many as
we do in local law enforcement municipalities, county or citywide.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I mean, Ken, Tom Holman and the ICE Department take
care of it. I think they can. I think that
they've grown and they're ready to deport anybody and everybody
they come across. However, to your point about the local
law enforcement, not only are they not cooperating, they're not
telling ICE, hey, we just caught a rapist over here
who's also an illegal alien. What they're actually doing in
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a lot of these sanctuary cities and states. Is exactly
what was happening up in Minnesota is they're helping the
people evade the federal authorities. They're hiding them. They're they're
they're telling the ice people, Oh, they're gonna have a
court date on this day, and in reality the court
date is a day earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anyway, the judge helps them about.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, they're lying to try to hide these people, which
is sheer insanity. And again another the Democrats. I hate
to say this because it's such a broad statement. It
seems as if the Democrat Party has gone insane like
legit like, they no longer in control of their faculties.
They don't know what is right anymore. They can't tell
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the difference between right and wrong. For many years, most
of my life, it was the Democrats and the Republicans
agreed on the goal. It was a different way of
getting to the goal. I never agreed with the Democrats'
way of getting to the goal. I never believed bigger
federal government was going to help the issue. I never
believed that any of the things that they were saying
was going to But they at least we agreed on
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what was the problem, and we wanted to solve it.
That's no longer the case. The Democrat Party wants open
borders and they are very happy to have complete chaos
and have death and destruction in the major cities across
the country in order to achieve their goal, which is
anti American, anti constitutional, and just against all common sense.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And as we will continue to hear more and more
and probably get some information from those persons who were
arrested on the reports from I guess late Saturday, that's
when it began talking about the number of people that
came into California, the real troublemakers who came in from
California to California from other parts of the country. We're
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also going to be hearing about of the people who
were processed. And this is where Gavenusom is going to
be able to jump in with his attorneys, the pro
bono attorneys, because they're looking for that three year old
girl who's just here for an education. It got swept
up in the arrest that they have made, as they
look forward to making more because they're going to be
asking and on the law enforcement there is not going
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to go along with it, but they'll be asking for more.
Video footage for identification.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And they're talking about separating kids from their parents. That's
exactly what they're not doing anymore. That's why you see thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen year old kids being deported even if they were
born in the United States, because they're going to keep
the families together. Mom's in illegal, mom was busted as
a prostitute, or mom was busted selling drugs, or mom
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was busted, you know, harboring a gang member, whatever her
you know, whatever it was, they got her caught. She's
going home to Venezuela or wherever home is for her.
The kids are going to go with her, even if
they're born in the US. And that's what you should want.
You should want the families to stay together.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We want the families to stay together and stay here.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And we'll pay for all of them.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yes, we'll pay for all of them. Put away your guns.
Maxine Digo nuts and she's crazy. But as amazing as
you mentioned earlier, it's amazing how they're going to double
down on stupidity. Every issue that they have been propelling
to the top of their argument against the Republicans has
been transgender. Now we get the transgender expense for prisoners inside.
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I've forgotten where the prison is. They want to pay
for all the medical recovery to transsition this prisoner. Now
you're also going to continue to double down on the
transgender for athletes all the way into the high school level.
I mean, it's just amazing how they continue to double
down in stupidity. It's like they refuse. It can only
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point to the fact they finally figured out a way
to get around the election at twenty twenty six and
midterms and absolutely cheat on the twenty twenty eight to
get themselves back in power, because otherwise, why would they
continue to prop themselves up or think they are on
losing eighty twenty issues like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Again, I think that they're crazy. I think that they
have lost control. They don't know how to control themselves.
You saw Kathy Griffin is that her name? With Don Lemon.
Over the weekend, they're openly saying, we now know that
Donald Trump rigged the election. This is not a legitimate president,
so we need to I mean, they haven't called for
his demise, but they are calling for him to be
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removed from office on what they believe is a legitimate reason.
Donald Trump did not win those swing states. There's no
possible way Americans voted to deport.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Eagles because it defies any past history of elections and
the five statistically, the outcome and probability of any studies thereof,
much like Joe Biden in the previous election, as although
they denied that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When they talked to all their friends in LA. All
their friends in LA want more illegals, not less.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
All right, So now I'm constantly amazed at this. Now
it's going to be interesting to see whether who's going
to pull the trigger first, what's going to happen here?
And now? They did last night the law enforcement did
step in to signal to the persons I guess that
were propagating all this or paying for it to begin with,
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if they had to bust them in, we'll find that out.
They did call it off last night about two o'clock,
LA time. Have this started? What Friday afternoon? Friday night
is Friday night, so after work Friday and then all
the way through two o'clock Sunday night, So it was
you know, that was the timeframe. We pulled out weekend
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and we kicked off the Summer of love.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Imagine if the Capitol riot had gone for an entire oh,
from January sixth through the eighth, Sure, like, how can
you not squash this? And then when somebody suggests, well,
we'll bring in more troops, the DC mayor or somebody
if you said we're going to bring in the National
Guard to stop the January sixth Capitol riot, and then
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the DC mayor says, we will sue you if you
bring in the National Guard. What the flip kind of
message would that have sent? Gavin Newsom is going to
sue you if you bring in the National Guard.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now the real battle begins, with the attorneys and the
ACLU leading the way.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan, they spit
we hit. Nobody's gonna spit on our police offices. Nobody's
gonna spit on our military.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Kelly nash us lamar for sending marine. But really, what
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I mean, if we see danger to our country or
to our citizens, it's about law and order.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And Kelly show woc man.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It was a big weekend, not only in California, but
a big weekend for Trump. I mean, think about it.
He's negotiating with g and at the same time, apparently
he's going to be to negotiate him with Gavin Newsom.
Both of them want to take over the US. I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Gavin Newsom sent a letter to Pete HeiG Seth saying
that if you do not remove your ICE officials, well
not the ICE officials, I'm sorry. If you do not
remove the National Guard, because Pete Hegseth is responsible for
the military, We're going to sue the Trump administration. We
don't want your help, we don't need your help. American
lives are not in I would I'm surprised he would
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take that tone because I remember Gavin Newsoen being very upset.
By January sixth, Jonathan and I was. I looked it up.
There was an estimated twenty four hundred people involved with
the Capitol riot. Yesterday alone on the one oh one
freeway there was over six thousand people firing what's described
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as commercial grade fireworks, meaning these are the kinds that
don't just blow off a hand, they blow a hole
through you. It's like a rocket launcher. That's what they were.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
To mar with some of the rocket launcher.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, they're firing rocket far more dangerous than the armed
crutch guy. He had a crutch that was the most
that was the only weapon on the property. Yeah, some
bear spoil possibly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The people in California way way outnumbered and way more
armed than what happened at the Capitol riot. And on
top of it, there was a definite attack on police office.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh yeah, when you end up burning police cars, you
certainly are already attacking the police. And then we saw
them through And when you start throwing bottles filled with fluid,
we don't know what the fluid. They don't know what
the fluid is. Remember that was part of the Antifa.
Whenever they came through Columbia, they threw like two bottles
of They could have been bottle of water. Don't know
(02:21):
what's in, probably urine, but they threw two bottles and
that was enough of that because that's when Richland County
responded with rubber bullets.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, and Leon Lott proudly proclaimed, yes, we're firing rubber
bullets at the crowd and listen, you have to deter
this type of behavior otherwise it's emboldened.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So in the state of South Carolina, the headlined seemed
promising but curious. South Carolina law enforcement increases ICE partnerships
since President Trump's re election. Now, when you start reading
into the story, you're learning about localcipalities and also counties
(03:01):
and the like, and sled in particular, any law enforcement agency.
When the year started, only three South Carolina law enforcement
agencies had agreements to participate in the federal program, the
US Immigration and Customs Enforcements to eighty seven G program,
which allows local and state law enforcement agencies to carry
(03:22):
out some and there are different levels you can sign
up for some immigration and enforcement duties.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, and you got to wonder, why was it only
three counties or Lexington and York Counties that were participating.
Alan Wilson. The Attorney General, has sent a letter early
this year saying, please, for the safety of all South Carolinians,
get your police departments in line with this, have them
(03:49):
sign this agreement. And you know, Mark Keel, you brought
it up this morning. Mark Kiel doesn't want that. Apparently
the Sled chief said, we don't need it, We don't
want it that do we have better sources on the ground.
He sounds like these LA County people who are saying,
you're gonna have a chilling factor on our sources. They
if they think that we might be deporting people. Well, Mark,
(04:12):
you know what, it is a chilling thing, and it
should be a chilling thing because neither you at SLED
or any of the local law enforcement down in Charleston
did a damn thing at Ladson when you had an
out of control nightclub. What was it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's called the.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Alamo, I think, yes, the Alamo, which is just filled
with cartel members and gangbangers and all kinds of people.
Thankfully you did have ICE agents come in and arrest
I think it was one hundred and eighteen of them
that night and get them out of our country.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We need that. Yeah, it doesn't mention that particular location
in that bust in particular, not in this story.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They're not going to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
South Carolina Law Enforcement Division agreement is to participate in
the task force model. Now, I remember we talked about this.
Of a different models you can choose to work with ICE.
One is just to deliver and serve notice, so you
sign up for that, and then the full one is well.
The other one is the task force model. It kills
(05:16):
that He's concerned about those in the immigrant community not
trusting SLAB because of its involvement in immigration enforcement. His
agency is a community relations unit which works to establish
rapport with minority groups.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Are the mark Are they legal immigrants or are they illegal?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But you ask He points out to how immigrants who
are undocumented do have protections to stay in the in
the country if they are a victim or a witness
of a crime. Quote, We're not going to turn our
head to crimes committed against those here in our country
because they may be illegal. Certainly we don't and we wouldn't.
(06:00):
Gil said, We're going to seek justice for them, just
like we would anybody else. Quote.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay, you can say all that, Mark, but actually they're
going if they call it a crime, yes, they're going.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So they're gonna get through with that court proceeding where
they testify against somebody else, then they will be going.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And it's like Tom Holman said this morning on Morning Joe,
which kind of flabbergasted the guy who hosts the fourth
Hour there or whatever his name is, I can't remember,
but they said, well, is everybody a violent criminal, because
you described a lot of violent criminals that you picked
up in LA counties. Absolutely not. There's a lot of
decent people who just happened to be hanging around with them.
I would then question, if they're so decent, why are
(06:37):
they hanging out with cartel members. But they haven't committed
any crimes that we're aware of. But if you're caught
hanging out with a cartel member, you're going to.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Get your hands off. That three year old who's just
here for an education, admonished Governor Newsom. And that's kind
of a paraphrase. I can't remember exactly what it was about,
pretty close to what he said, but you know, the
three year old hanging out in the in in and
amongst or in the neighborhood where they get caught up
with collateral damage. Goes back to the argument that if
your local police agency would only work with ICE once
(07:08):
you arrested the worst of the worst and you had
them in custody, if you turn them over, then ICE
would no longer be going to the Alamo. They're picking
up everybody, including the three year old who's just there
for an education.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, what the embarrassment for SLED is they should
have handled the Alamo years ago. Charleston County Police should
have handled the Alamo years ago. LATS and Police department
should have handled the Alamo years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Charleston was hamstrung by their own sheriff for a while.
But now there's a new sheriff in town, then they're
going to sign up, so they'll be a part of it.
But you're right, previous to that, they didn't. They weren't
concerned about the Alamo. Now there's a woman here named
Laura Collins. She is the director of the George W.
Bush SMU Economic Growth Initiative, and a vast majority given
(07:56):
immigration enforcement lies with the federal governments. That's what she said.
Why is she inquoted in this story? I don't know.
Local and state enforcement have a role when it comes
to immigration. But the question is to what degree. Well,
as we're already learned in the first part, ma'am, there's
three different degrees they can choose. Sometimes they're convicted of
crimes of Federal immigration enforcement doesn't always know who they are,
(08:20):
so state and local enforcement does and has an important
role to play because they're policing all of us, not
just native born people. Yes, they are. She added that
the agreements aren't necessarily bad. I think there's a tendency
sometimes when we talk about immigration enforcement to think of
all these automatically as being a horrible thing. There are
degrees to this. Sometimes it's really necessary, sometimes it's not,
(08:44):
and there's a lot in its execution. Look, if you
hear illegally and whatever happens, whether you're jaywalking or you
happen to be hanging out with a gang member, if
you get swept up in collateral action and you're here
illegally undocumented, then Tom Hoban's already told you for months
now you're going to be deported.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And the President told you that, and the American people
have told you that. That's why they overwhelmingly voted for
Donald Trump. They do not want you in our country.
And you cannot move forward in this country. That's the
other problem. You're stuck. You're now stuck in America. You
need to go home then and actually apply, not reapply
(09:25):
because you didn't apply to begin with. Then apply to
come here. What you see happening in La Jonathan is
the equivalent of the Gaza Strip right now. Mexico wants
La back.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You can tell by the way that they're flying their
own flag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So if you look at the Gaza Strip, it is
internationally recognized as Israel's property. The Gaza Strip was awarded
to Israel. The Palestinians are saying, but that's our ancestral homeland.
Ignore the fact that Israel was their homeland before it
was your homeland. That's not important now. What's important now
is that it is actually the property of Israel. Los
(10:00):
Angeles at one time was the property of Mexico. It
is no longer. The Mexicans want it back. They are
moving in in a way to try to take it
away from US. I shudder to think what would happen
under a president Kamala Harris right now, because we would
have already lost southern California.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, if you just look back at Obama and Biden.
Because there's a paragraph here that says SLED, which signed
its agreement in late February, has been statutorily required to
join since two thousand and eight, but it hasn't been
able to until this year. Anybody wonder why was that?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because Mark Hell hates it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No. In a previous article, it says with Trump in office,
there's a renewed interest in the administration to increase participation
as applications during the Obama and Biden administrations were paused.
So in two thousand and eight, we paused that application
and the enforcement thereof. So now you have, as Kelly mentioned,
(11:05):
got You've got Mexico flessing its muscle, with its very
proud protesters flying Mexican and other flags, but flying a
lot of Mexican flags, taking over the streets of Los Angeles.
And Trump has already said and Tom Homan's untold you,
Governor Newsom that he's here to sweep up any illegals
(11:27):
in the country. Now I realize that Governor Newsom is
now thrown down the gauntlet. He would love for Tom
Homan to arrest him. He claims that Homan said he's
gone to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Tom Holman did say I'm going to arrest him. I
will personally arrest him and any other government He said,
I'm not going to fall for that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I never threatened to arrest him.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, that's not what he said. On Friday night, Tom
Holman said Friday night, I will personally arrest I will
personally arrest any government official who attempts to interfere with
the actions of our department.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
We have the.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Federal authority to arrest these people. We are going to
arrest these people, and if you, as a government official,
try to stop us, you personally will be arrested as well. So,
Gavin Newsom, you want to go out to a protest
and push an ICE agent, you'll find your ass in jail.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Newsom is begging to be arrested because that puts him
ahead of the conversation of Gee taking over the country.
He thinks that if he gets arrested with his mugshot
in his orange jumpsuit, that that's going to propel him
to the top of the Democrat Party and certainly help
him lead the way for the mid term victory over
the Republicans in the House and the Senate and then
(12:34):
capture the White House and then bring America back to
its glory, well again of a non sovereign country when you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Look at what's going on with immigration right now. There
was a poll that came out Sunday from CBS News. Now,
this poll was conducted before the Friday night festivities began,
but again CBS News shocked beyond on shock that seventy
four percent of Americans agree every illegal should go, every
(13:07):
one of them should go. CBS News can't believe it.
They side with the president. Should they be arrested, Yes,
should they be deported even if they've never done anything violent? Yes,
America wants these illegals out of our country.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, I know that we had the senior senator from
California in an interview yesterday, and unfortunately, in listening to
it on MSNBC, I was interrupted by something else, so
I didn't hear all of his comments. But he is he,
much like Devin Newsom, was already calling for the Department
of Defense to back off with its use of the
(13:47):
National Guard and certainly stand down from its use of
possibly five hundred marines as they will be called in
to open up. Was it one there?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
One oh one is where they they had six thousand yesterday.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
They want to be able to open up the interstate
for the citizens to be able to use it so
everybody can get to work on Monday morning. Well for
those people that.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Work, well again, you've got Camp Pendleton just down the street,
so maybe five hundred Marines, but they have not been
called up yet. You're gonna have two thousand National Guardsmen.
They had three hundred there yesterday. Most of these National Guardsmen,
by the way, live in La County. You know, these
are people defending their own territory, right like when you have.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Like the ship them in from Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, they act like they're coming in from like Louisiana
or someplace like that. They're the federal troops are marching
on us now. I saw Maxine Waters almost crying yesterday.
You got hey, I want you detect photographs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They have guns.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
They have guns, and they must be I don't know
the orders are to shoot to kill, but I would
assume that's what the orders are.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Otherwise, why would they have guns for SLED. Even though
they've worked with ICE and Homeland Security Investigation agents in
the past, state law enforcement didn't have the authority to
take certain actions. We have a legal authority to detain
people if we believe that they're here in the US illegally.
(15:05):
We have the legal right to interview and interrogate folks
or interview people about whether or not they are here
in the country legally. This is a quote from Mark Keel.
So it gives us the same sort of authority that
ICE and Homeland Security has in some cases that we
did not have in the past, and that was during
(15:28):
the pause of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So back to Gavin Newsom hoping to get arrested so
that it'll help him propel him to the top of
the Democrat Party. The problem for the Democrats is that
you're on the wrong side of the issue, I mean
very wrong, and so you're going to win. He's right,
he will become the front runner for the presidency. If
he gets arrested standing up for illegals, he'll begin the
front runner for the Democrat Party. He will not be
(15:54):
the front runner for the presidency. When you see Margaret
Brennan yesterday on CBS reading a poll that shows sixty
two percent of likely voters, now this is an over
what we never got sixty two percent of likely voters
to agree on just about anything. It's usually like a
fifty two to forty eight type of issue. Sixty two
percent of registered likely voters said that they would support
(16:17):
a government program that deports all migrants who are living
in the United States illegally. She can't believe it. That
is where we're at though. We're sick and tired of
paying for all of these people, and we're else by
the way we're I think a lot of people are
sick and tired of the crime being put against these people.
They're victims just as much as anybody else. The cartel
(16:37):
brought them here. They thought they were going to get
a better life than they got to America, and they
realized we're going to keep getting abused by cartel members.
We're going to and we can even be abused by
American citizens. Anybody can abuse us. We have no protections
because as soon as we call it in, we're getting deported.
The best thing for you right now is to get
the hell out of here on your own. Don't let
them catch you self. Deport You can then reapply for citizenship.
(17:01):
They're promising to expedite that process, so there's going to
be an opportunity for you to come and be a
tax paying a member of society. But you're not allowed
to do that right now.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And speaking of some of the persons who are affected
by crime by other illegals, if they in fact or
hear as a victim and are illegal in the country,
certainly we will protect those persons from being harmed. But
it doesn't necessarily protect your no grant you citizenship if
you offer any type of collaboration with law enforcement in
(17:33):
order to bring a crime to an end. There was
a comment here by one of the states long to us,
a long time Midlands immigrant. I even say, I'm not
sure how to pronounce this last night, so I won't
mispronounce it. His quote is, we will collaborate with them,
we will share information. And he argued though that federal
(17:56):
immigration officials should be the ones handling enforcemental and state
law enforcement. This is a federal issue. This should not
be dealt with. This should be dealt with by federal authorities.
They are the ones that should be addressing this issue
and applying the law. Correct, So I gotcha. But if
(18:16):
in fact we already have law enforcement who have arrested
a person for whatever crime brought them to the attention
of the local law enforcement who are in fact either
probably already known as criminal elements from other parts of
the world, or just simply here illegally, and they were
jaywalking again with a jaywalking charge that still does not
(18:40):
immune them from being able to be enforced with association
of local law enforcement with ICE. They don't have. ICE
shouldn't have to do its own investigation. For Pete's sake,
we got a lot of people to move through the system.
Why in the world would you think that helping your
community by hamstringing local law enforcement and enforcing it only
(19:02):
by federal officials. Where Martin Keel's already pointed out, we
got federal officials here, but not nearly as many as
we do in local law enforcement municipalities, county or citywide.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I mean, Ken, Tom Holman and the ICE Department take
care of it. I think they can. I think that
they've grown and they're ready to deport anybody and everybody
they come across. However, to your point about the local
law enforcement, not only are they not cooperating, they're not
telling ICE, hey, we just caught a rapist over here
who's also an illegal alien. What they're actually doing in
(19:35):
a lot of these sanctuary cities and states. Is exactly
what was happening up in Minnesota is they're helping the
people evade the federal authorities. They're hiding them. They're they're
they're telling the ice people, Oh, they're gonna have a
court date on this day, and in reality the court
date is a day earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anyway, the judge helps them about.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, they're lying to try to hide these people, which
is sheer insanity. And again another the Democrats. I hate
to say this because it's such a broad statement. It
seems as if the Democrat Party has gone insane like
legit like, they no longer in control of their faculties.
They don't know what is right anymore. They can't tell
(20:14):
the difference between right and wrong. For many years, most
of my life, it was the Democrats and the Republicans
agreed on the goal. It was a different way of
getting to the goal. I never agreed with the Democrats'
way of getting to the goal. I never believed bigger
federal government was going to help the issue. I never
believed that any of the things that they were saying
was going to But they at least we agreed on
(20:35):
what was the problem, and we wanted to solve it.
That's no longer the case. The Democrat Party wants open
borders and they are very happy to have complete chaos
and have death and destruction in the major cities across
the country in order to achieve their goal, which is
anti American, anti constitutional, and just against all common sense.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And as we will continue to hear more and more
and probably get some information from those persons who were
arrested on the reports from I guess late Saturday, that's
when it began talking about the number of people that
came into California, the real troublemakers who came in from
California to California from other parts of the country. We're
(21:18):
also going to be hearing about of the people who
were processed. And this is where Gavenusom is going to
be able to jump in with his attorneys, the pro
bono attorneys, because they're looking for that three year old
girl who's just here for an education. It got swept
up in the arrest that they have made, as they
look forward to making more because they're going to be
asking and on the law enforcement there is not going
(21:39):
to go along with it, but they'll be asking for more.
Video footage for identification.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And they're talking about separating kids from their parents. That's
exactly what they're not doing anymore. That's why you see thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen year old kids being deported even if they were
born in the United States, because they're going to keep
the families together. Mom's in illegal, mom was busted as
a prostitute, or mom was busted selling drugs, or mom
(22:06):
was busted, you know, harboring a gang member, whatever her
you know, whatever it was, they got her caught. She's
going home to Venezuela or wherever home is for her.
The kids are going to go with her, even if
they're born in the US. And that's what you should want.
You should want the families to stay together.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We want the families to stay together and stay here.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And we'll pay for all of them.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yes, we'll pay for all of them. Put away your guns.
Maxine Digo nuts and she's crazy. But as amazing as
you mentioned earlier, it's amazing how they're going to double
down on stupidity. Every issue that they have been propelling
to the top of their argument against the Republicans has
been transgender. Now we get the transgender expense for prisoners inside.
(22:52):
I've forgotten where the prison is. They want to pay
for all the medical recovery to transsition this prisoner. Now
you're also going to continue to double down on the
transgender for athletes all the way into the high school level.
I mean, it's just amazing how they continue to double
down in stupidity. It's like they refuse. It can only
(23:12):
point to the fact they finally figured out a way
to get around the election at twenty twenty six and
midterms and absolutely cheat on the twenty twenty eight to
get themselves back in power, because otherwise, why would they
continue to prop themselves up or think they are on
losing eighty twenty issues like you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Again, I think that they're crazy. I think that they
have lost control. They don't know how to control themselves.
You saw Kathy Griffin is that her name? With Don Lemon.
Over the weekend, they're openly saying, we now know that
Donald Trump rigged the election. This is not a legitimate president,
so we need to I mean, they haven't called for
his demise, but they are calling for him to be
(23:51):
removed from office on what they believe is a legitimate reason.
Donald Trump did not win those swing states. There's no
possible way Americans voted to deport.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Eagles because it defies any past history of elections and
the five statistically, the outcome and probability of any studies thereof,
much like Joe Biden in the previous election, as although
they denied that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When they talked to all their friends in LA. All
their friends in LA want more illegals, not less.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
All right, So now I'm constantly amazed at this. Now
it's going to be interesting to see whether who's going
to pull the trigger first, what's going to happen here?
And now? They did last night the law enforcement did
step in to signal to the persons I guess that
were propagating all this or paying for it to begin with,
(24:39):
if they had to bust them in, we'll find that out.
They did call it off last night about two o'clock,
LA time. Have this started? What Friday afternoon? Friday night
is Friday night, so after work Friday and then all
the way through two o'clock Sunday night, So it was
you know, that was the timeframe. We pulled out weekend
(25:00):
and we kicked off the Summer of love.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Imagine if the Capitol riot had gone for an entire oh,
from January sixth through the eighth, Sure, like, how can
you not squash this? And then when somebody suggests, well,
we'll bring in more troops, the DC mayor or somebody
if you said we're going to bring in the National
Guard to stop the January sixth Capitol riot, and then
(25:25):
the DC mayor says, we will sue you if you
bring in the National Guard. What the flip kind of
message would that have sent? Gavin Newsom is going to
sue you if you bring in the National Guard.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now the real battle begins, with the attorneys and the
ACLU leading the way.
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