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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, look.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
At that shift, a forty point shift to the right
among immigrant voters. Kelly Nash the group of voters who
became more hawkish on immigration were in fact immigrants themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show woc It has been fascinating
this listening to the Democrats and now I'm learning about
I'm learning Democrats who I didn't even know existed before,
Like I don't even know who the Attorney General for
the state of California was, but apparently he wants to
use this to make some political points as well.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Again, the Democrats polling shows them that they want to fight, fight,
fight anything that the Republicans do, and so even though
everything is showing them that they're on the wrong side
of this issue, they have to defer back to their
original poll that says fight the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I cannot wrap my brain around this. And now we're
finding out that the No Kings protests coming Saturday and
the June teen celebrations, I guess are going to be
African American community standing up in solidarity, much like Maxime Waters.
I'm sure she'll be overbooked for events so that this
will continue. It's gonna be the Summer of Love all
over again, because we got the Saturday protests for the
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No Kings and then June nineteenth, that's still a week
and a half away.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well yeah, I mean your June fourteenth is Saturday, so
it's just five days later. So it'll be an action
packed week starting Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I know you talk about Juneteenth that that's going to
be African American community. Don't be surprised if the majority
of the people at both events are white people with
purple hair.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What is their name again? The white California I think
she's a California House member with the purple hair. Oh,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I just know that that's the standard look of the
liberals these day.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, it is all right. Well, hey we did get
some interesting news here. I didn't see this coming. I
don't think anybody was talking about it. We got a
deal suddenly now almost is it finalized with China?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, when Trump put it out there, he said it's
in play. How did he actually word it? Let me
just try to see if I can find his post again,
because it was like it was still subject to his
and cheese approval, which I don't understand what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Because administrators for each country have gotten together and hammered
out a deal they think that each of their representative
presidents will sign.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, that seems to be the basic vibe right now
here we go. An hour ago, Trump says China will
supply rare earth and the US will continue to allow
Chinese students, which is he said he's always been in
favor of that. I'm not in favor of Chinese students
or students from any country that are here to try
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to hurt America and so.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hope that they're going to put in and I'm sure
they are, because he's even spoken out against it, some
type of at least some vetting process. I know that
I saw a staggering number the other day. Forty two
thousand percent was the number. What forty two thousand percent
in twenty nineteen, there were nineteen Chinese citizens who came
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across our southern border that were detained by border patrol. Okay,
two years later, I've forgotten what the raw number was,
but it was forty two thousand percent increase and that
continued to run for the last two years of the
Biden administration. So not only did we have the visa
Chinese students coming over to be a part of the
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university's campus, but also now we have stemmed that flow.
But all those years, three years of the Biden administration,
when we saw that many Chinese coming into the country.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think it would be naive. And I don't think
that Donald Trump is naive, but it would be naive
if he didn't believe that the reason China is so
adamant about wanting their students in our universities is to
help destroy America. I mean, China does want to destroy America.
They may not openly say it, like when you hear
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Iran talking about Israel and even us that you know
they would kill the big Satan, kill the little Satan.
They're not that open about it. But China wants to
rule the world, and right now we rule the world,
so they have to overtake us. And a big way
of doing it is sabotaging our universities and even our
you know, look, we had I don't want to name names,
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but if you follow the local papers, you know in
Richland County there was an administrator who several years ago
took advantage of Chinese funding to study.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Take take some of the kids.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Abroad and learn about communism, Like we were celebrating that
in the midlands of South Carolina. Why is communism better
than democracy? That was an actual lesson planned for the
kids here. By the time you get to some higher
education place, you of course think that America is horrific,
and we Alls, we do is oppressed, not only our
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own citizens, but people all around the world. So we
are just we are getting destroyed in the propaganda war.
I hope that Trump recognizes that. And when we allow
these Chinese students in, we're not allowing them to influence
the culture of the campuses.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, and you're right, it's not just in the places
that you might assume, like Harvard or the like, where
there's getting on the college campuses. This is going on
way beyond their college years. We've got the example you
used here in South Carolina. We know that Tim Walls
put together from his home state another trip to China.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He does love it. We got a lot of China
love going on here. To be Barb Shruggord. All right, now,
I'll tell you what. Let me get this. Oh, look,
the man is here Kelly mash Welcome back in the studio.
Originally Keunty Sheriff Leon Live.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Hey, good morning, good morning, great to be with y'all.
Have been a busy, busy, busy time here in.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The It hasn't been hot fun and the summer hot.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Fun in the summertime, and sliding the family stone just died.
He just passed away too, so he couldn't handle it anymore. So,
but it's been hot. It's been hot in the big city,
but not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Is not taking a summer break now?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it true that when it heats up you do
see more crime.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, because people get agitated with each other a lot easier,
and so they're getting and then you got to drink
more to get high. So and then that, Yeah, when
it's hot, when crime goes up. And so you got
some problems going on right now. We got some a
lot of issues going on. We've had a couple of murders,
We've got barricaded subject in the house with two kids.
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So it's just a busy, busy time for all of
us in Richland County. That's between city and Lexington and
Richland County, so the whole Midlands area is being hit
pretty hard right now.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And on top of all that, which is tragic enough
for our community. I was bragging about you yesterday because
we're saying that they're going to be more and more
protests coming having to do with the illegal criminal deportations
that like we've seen in Los Angeles, but now they're
spreading out all across the country. And I was saying,
I don't think you're going to see Antifa coming back
to Columbia.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Columbia is not LA. I can tell you that right now,
and it's not. We're not going to tolerate anything like that.
And you brought up Antifa, and that's what's happening. We
saw that in previous riots and Tifa just looks for
an excuse to come and do destruction and that's what
we're seeing in LA and some of these other cities too.
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They could care less about deportation or anything like that.
It's just an opportunity for them the wreck havoc. And
you know, they're professionals are doing that, and they know
how to do it, and they come prepared. You know,
they put out a sheet that tells you exactly what
to wear to protect yourself from bring an umbrella to
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keep the stuff from getting on your masks, and how
to wear knee pads, all stuff. They come fully equipped.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know. The same weekend we saw it in Columbia,
we also saw it in Charleston where they actually did
some damage, particularly downtown. But now we got a new
sheriff in Charleston County. Do you have a relationship with them.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I know carl Richie very well, doing very well, so
that's not going to happen. But it wasn't in the county.
It was in the city and that's where the problem
came because the county sheriff at that time wasn't involved
in it, and it was the city and the mayor
who made the decisions on what they were not going
to do, which was do anything and let them burn
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Charleston down for a good while. Well, sat totally dops
it from what we had here, right, You had the
city and the county working very closely. You had a
mayor who got on TV and said, take y'all's asses home.
I mean that set the tone on that we were
not going to tolerate any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, Saturday is Flag Day. It's also a big military celebration.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
On the fiftieth anniversary of the Army and the anniversary
of my fiftieth year and a.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Cop happy and so with this big military parade happening
in DC, a lot of people around the country are
have named it Trump's Birthday celebration because it is his
birthday as well, and sore and they're saying they're gonna
have these no Kings protests, and one of them is
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scheduled for Columbia Saturday, twelve thirty till four, and the
Attorney General has issued a warning to them. Do you
have anything you'd like to say to the people going
to the No King's protest?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, peaceful protests and there's nothing wrong with that. You're
gonna go to the State House grounds and peacefly protests
and make speeches and all that stuff. That's great. Don't
come off the State House ground and think you're gonna
go down Main Street or Gervais Street and any streets
and burned buildings and break in buildings and deluding and
burn cars. That ain't gonna happen. It just we're not
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going to allow that. It's just not and they'll be
met with with some strong force.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Unfortunately, because of your job description your other share up
and you have to deal with a lot of criminal activity,
but there's always an opportunity for parents in particular to
get their children on the right path. In Richland County,
you've always done a good job in setting up these
summer programs. How are we coming this week? This year?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
We've got I think it's eight or nine summer programs.
I just looked at the list before I left here.
I come over here, so we got all our summer programs.
So our school resource officers are running them there throughout
Richland County and go to our website, our CSD dot net,
look at them time and you can sign this out.
And one thing that we've done is the free We're
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not charging people to come to our camps. It's me
We miss out on the kids who probably need it
the most because the parents can't afford a camp like
most places charge a lot of money to go to
a camp. So through donations, through people giving me money
to speak or something like that, we put it in
these programs so we can we can fund it. We
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got a golf tournament that this individual puts on and
gives us the proceeds from that every year about seven
eight thousand dollars. We use that for summer camps too,
so but our summer camps have got character camps, sports camps,
science camps, painting clamps. We got all kinds of camps
for you. So just you know, get your child involved,
that's what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Sure, Leah lot with us, and we're recording this on Wednesday,
and you were mentioning some of the recent violence that's
happened in Columbia. Any updates on how your canine is doing.
I remember a couple of weeks ago you had one get.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Shot, got shot, I got shot in the ear. I'm
happy to say that the dog and the handler's back
at work and actually have had to bite some bad
guys since then. Oh really, we had a young man
decided he was going to break in multiple cars a
couple of nights ago. I mean multiple cars, not just
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going in with the doors on open, he was breaking windows.
Oh wow, Well, somebody saw him in the neighborhood called us.
We did a perimeter, kept him within, and then the
dog tracked him down and he decided he didn't want
to give up, so got a little bit of a
butt bite on him. So that dog is good Cairo
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is the dog's name. But Cairo's doing good. We're very fortunate.
The one bullet went through the ear and they put
three stitches in it and moved right on on and
then got some abrasions on underneath the belly. We think
is probably a ricochet from it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Carol was like Trump got shot in the ears.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I know, but he's back at work. He's tracking and
biting and doing what he needs to do.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know, one of the things that happened this year
for the state, given our new budget and Richland County
and several other counties, but I know Richland Counties had
school resource officers in place at schools, all the schools
in the county. As we go into this next school session,
I know this is the time of the year when
you meet with administrators and talk about how to make
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sure that their buildings are secure and safe and safety
protocols and you make recommendations. Is how's that? How did
this past year go and what do you anticipate for
your training for this year?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, this past year was good. I mean we had
the beginning of the school we had some knucklehead kids
who thought they could bring stuff in through the metal detectors.
Of course that didn't work. They had to find out
that you know, you can't bring the metal of your
gun or your knife in there. So we had a
few of those, but didn't have any shootings at our schools.
We actually had a very good safe year. We didn't
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have incidents at football games or other athletic events are
a large gathering, so you know, and I applot all
three school districts that we deal with that they do
a good job and understanding that safety is first, and
so I know they have budget restraints, but when it
comes to safety that they don't shortcut on the money.
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So we're able to have high visibility at these events
and have lots of SROs involved that know the kids,
you know, So that helps out a lot too. Instead
just having a deputy that don't knows people, you have
a deputies that's in the feeder school, say it's a
high school game, all the schools that feed in there,
the middle schools and elementary because that knows all those
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kids they go to these football games, so they can
go little Johnny, I know you And that that works
as a thought process that goes into that. So last year,
this past school year was a good one. We already
ramping up for next year. Our s ros are at
the SKASROW which is the South Caroline School Resource Officer
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Association conference, and then the DARE conferences going on. So
we've got them both in in in conferences, learning more,
get more up to date information and hopefully will just
continue to do a good path.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Excellent surif Lea and Lott with us on the on
the show today. And you know, in years previous we've
had you on talking about the hate crime law and
how you wanted one for the state of South Carolina.
Last week, Richland County became the first county in the
state to pass one of those laws. I imagine you
had something to do with that. And what do you
think of the new bill that they passed.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I had a lot to do with that, just
unfortunately have not been able to get it passed in
the state House. But Richmond County Council and unanimous decision,
so that was Republicans and Democrats all voted for it.
It gives us just another tool that we can use
that you know it's hate or bias. If you commit
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a crime just based on that, then you need to
have a little bit extra added to your sentence and
be held accountable. So I think it made a big
statement to everybody in Richland County. That's the good people
and the bad people. You're not to be able to
do some of these things in Richland County you've been
able to do in the past. And we track these
tripe crimes, and I will tell you it is. I
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think most people believe, well, it's a minority that's the
one that's being targeted. It's the other way around. It's
more white people have been victims of a hate bias
crime in Richmond County than it has been a minority,
and I think that surprises people. And I think when
it came down to vote, some of those that looked
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like me decided, hey, that numbers, it shouldn't be that way,
so they voted for it. So I'm proud of Richmond
County Council for doing what they did. And Councilwoman tyr
a little when she got elected back in November, took
over in January. She met with me and that was
one thing that we discussed. So that was her pet
project and she made it happen.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I got a feeling that in the future now that
we have it in Richland County. You're going to have
some persons representing legislators or maybe the state themselves from
SLED taking a look at your statistics that you mentioned
to talk about how effective it's been and whether that
actually helps stem or it gives. Yet you'll want more
teeth to the availability of enforcement of laws on the books.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, and the state law that we've been pushing and
is not You don't get arrested because the hate crime.
You got arrested for another crime. But if you but
if hate or bias was part of it, then you
got more time put So it was an enhancement. So
it wasn't where I'm going to go out here and
lock you up because you use certain words. But if
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you commit a crime and you use those words and
you're focusing on hate or bias somehow, then you should
be held accountable more than just the crime that you committed.
So that added to it. But we haven't been able
to get that passed either. We're one or two states.
Wyoming is the only other state that doesn't have a
state wide law. We've made these cases and I've had
to turn them over to US Attorney's office. We had
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four African American men and one woman who was focusing
on the Hispanic population on robberies. I mean, and we
got their text messages how they talked about that's who
they were going after, why they were going after. They
probably did fifteen robberies, and we finally caught them, couldn't
do nothing with them statewide. The Feds took it and
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I think the less any of them got was thirty years.
I think it was right well, thirty five years they
got because the Feds have a hate crime a.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know, I'll be the guy who plays Devil's advocate.
I'm reading this in the South Carolina Public broadcast. They're
saying it's now unlawful for a person to cause cause fear,
harm or damage to a person's property because of their race, gender,
sexual orientation, religion, or disability. Who decides if they caused fear, Well,
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the person.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That was the victim of that fear has to be
articulated enough on what the cause of that fear is,
and so then that falls back on us and that
victim to be able to go to court and prove
that that's what happened. Okay, let's talk about something good
that real quick okayoball game. I couldn't bring my trophy
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in here because it weighs so much. They played out
annual game against the Lexing County Sheriff's Department, and for
you know, it's a fundraiser for USO, who does so
much for our for our military, and I needed a
hype man. I needed somebody to get the crowd going
and just bring it up. I couldn't find one, and
then it hit me. I talked to him every month.
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I get to watch him on TV doing commercials. I
gave him a hat so his head didn't get sunburned.
That day, Kelly Nash came out and did a fantastic job. Jonathan,
You've trained him well, I've seen you do the you
do it great. Kelly is following your footsteps. But we did.
We beat Lexon County for the second year in a row,
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and so we bring the big trophy home. But raised
a lot of money and attention to USO and that's
what it was all about. But Kelly, I appreciate you
getting that last minute phone calling coming. You got a shirt, Yes,
you got a hat. Yeah, I got a cool jersey.
You got a hamburger to eat out couldn't get any better.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Did you get him some ball peanuts?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
No, we're practicing on that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, he played a little bit, but he was
basically the co and he had an interesting strategy that
I had not considered, which was he kept toeing the batters,
hit it on the ground, hit it on the ground.
And so the idea was they're going to cause.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Errors, right, and he was right.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
We saw throwing errors, we saw bibbles, and then softball,
you don't have time for an error. You don't have
time to bobble the ball.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
So I mean, if flyball is easy to catch, everybody
can catch a fly ball, quit you're not going to
hit a home run. And in a baseball part with
a softball, now I have one guy to get clothed.
He did, he got he got warning track. But so
you're not going to hit a home run. Hit line drives,
put the ball on the ground, make him make a play.
And then it worked out way. I mean, I think
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we jumped on him like six to nothing. We got
early and then we coast for to one. After two. Yeah,
then we coasted a little bit, but that's that's two
years in a row. Had the trophy from the Peanut
Champion Peanut and Kelly. Kelly had to ask Sheriff Coon
who has the record for most peanuts eating. He came
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up with all kinds of excuses, but finally a meeting,
yeah he got he's eating more than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I can't tell you this. Shercoon's already getting together his
strategy for next year, and he's probably going to have
these guys practicing every time they already practiced.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
They were protesting because the bases were going to be
put at ninety feet and they're like, we've been practicing
at sixty or whatever. They got all upset and so anyway, Yeah,
but you put it to them.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's fun when you just walk out of your police
car and walk on the field and put your uniform
on and go beat them. And they've been practicing like crazy.
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well you have players either you were missing five of
your best players.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Have five of my top ten players. Wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, fun, we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, thanks for coaching them up, and thanks for being
the leader of our Richland Kunty share of step and
he's also big salute to all those persons who wear
the badge and volunteer Richland alexxing to then amfair Field.
Wherever it is that you work with law enforcement, whether
you're on the payroll or whether you're helping out because
you want to be part of the community, thank you
for your reference, and again thank you Sheriff Lote.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Thank you
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, look.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
At that shift, a forty point shift to the right
among immigrant voters. Kelly Nash the group of voters who
became more hawkish on immigration were in fact immigrants themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show woc It has been fascinating
this listening to the Democrats and now I'm learning about
I'm learning Democrats who I didn't even know existed before,
Like I don't even know who the Attorney General for
the state of California was, but apparently he wants to
use this to make some political points as well.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Again, the Democrats polling shows them that they want to fight, fight,
fight anything that the Republicans do, and so even though
everything is showing them that they're on the wrong side
of this issue, they have to defer back to their
original poll that says fight the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I cannot wrap my brain around this. And now we're
finding out that the No Kings protests coming Saturday and
the June teen celebrations, I guess are going to be
African American community standing up in solidarity, much like Maxime Waters.
I'm sure she'll be overbooked for events so that this
will continue. It's gonna be the Summer of Love all
over again, because we got the Saturday protests for the
(01:15):
No Kings and then June nineteenth, that's still a week
and a half away.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well yeah, I mean your June fourteenth is Saturday, so
it's just five days later. So it'll be an action
packed week starting Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I know you talk about Juneteenth that that's going to
be African American community. Don't be surprised if the majority
of the people at both events are white people with
purple hair.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What is their name again? The white California I think
she's a California House member with the purple hair. Oh,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I just know that that's the standard look of the
liberals these day.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, it is all right. Well, hey we did get
some interesting news here. I didn't see this coming. I
don't think anybody was talking about it. We got a
deal suddenly now almost is it finalized with China?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, when Trump put it out there, he said it's
in play. How did he actually word it? Let me
just try to see if I can find his post again,
because it was like it was still subject to his
and cheese approval, which I don't understand what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Because administrators for each country have gotten together and hammered
out a deal they think that each of their representative
presidents will sign.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, that seems to be the basic vibe right now
here we go. An hour ago, Trump says China will
supply rare earth and the US will continue to allow
Chinese students, which is he said he's always been in
favor of that. I'm not in favor of Chinese students
or students from any country that are here to try
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to hurt America and so.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hope that they're going to put in and I'm sure
they are, because he's even spoken out against it, some
type of at least some vetting process. I know that
I saw a staggering number the other day. Forty two
thousand percent was the number. What forty two thousand percent
in twenty nineteen, there were nineteen Chinese citizens who came
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across our southern border that were detained by border patrol. Okay,
two years later, I've forgotten what the raw number was,
but it was forty two thousand percent increase and that
continued to run for the last two years of the
Biden administration. So not only did we have the visa
Chinese students coming over to be a part of the
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university's campus, but also now we have stemmed that flow.
But all those years, three years of the Biden administration,
when we saw that many Chinese coming into the country.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think it would be naive. And I don't think
that Donald Trump is naive, but it would be naive
if he didn't believe that the reason China is so
adamant about wanting their students in our universities is to
help destroy America. I mean, China does want to destroy America.
They may not openly say it, like when you hear
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Iran talking about Israel and even us that you know
they would kill the big Satan, kill the little Satan.
They're not that open about it. But China wants to
rule the world, and right now we rule the world,
so they have to overtake us. And a big way
of doing it is sabotaging our universities and even our
you know, look, we had I don't want to name names,
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but if you follow the local papers, you know in
Richland County there was an administrator who several years ago
took advantage of Chinese funding to study.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Take take some of the kids.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Abroad and learn about communism, Like we were celebrating that
in the midlands of South Carolina. Why is communism better
than democracy? That was an actual lesson planned for the
kids here. By the time you get to some higher
education place, you of course think that America is horrific,
and we Alls, we do is oppressed, not only our
(05:04):
own citizens, but people all around the world. So we
are just we are getting destroyed in the propaganda war.
I hope that Trump recognizes that. And when we allow
these Chinese students in, we're not allowing them to influence
the culture of the campuses.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, and you're right, it's not just in the places
that you might assume, like Harvard or the like, where
there's getting on the college campuses. This is going on
way beyond their college years. We've got the example you
used here in South Carolina. We know that Tim Walls
put together from his home state another trip to China.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He loves it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He does love it. We got a lot of China
love going on here. To be Barb Shruggord. All right, now,
I'll tell you what. Let me get this. Oh, look,
the man is here Kelly mash Welcome back in the studio.
Originally Keunty Sheriff Leon Live.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Hey, good morning, good morning, great to be with y'all.
Have been a busy, busy, busy time here in.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The It hasn't been hot fun and the summer hot.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Fun in the summertime, and sliding the family stone just died.
He just passed away too, so he couldn't handle it anymore. So,
but it's been hot. It's been hot in the big city,
but not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Is not taking a summer break now?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it true that when it heats up you do
see more crime.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, because people get agitated with each other a lot easier,
and so they're getting and then you got to drink
more to get high. So and then that, Yeah, when
it's hot, when crime goes up. And so you got
some problems going on right now. We got some a
lot of issues going on. We've had a couple of murders,
We've got barricaded subject in the house with two kids.
(06:43):
So it's just a busy, busy time for all of
us in Richland County. That's between city and Lexington and
Richland County, so the whole Midlands area is being hit
pretty hard right now.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And on top of all that, which is tragic enough
for our community. I was bragging about you yesterday because
we're saying that they're going to be more and more
protests coming having to do with the illegal criminal deportations
that like we've seen in Los Angeles, but now they're
spreading out all across the country. And I was saying,
I don't think you're going to see Antifa coming back
to Columbia.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Columbia is not LA. I can tell you that right now,
and it's not. We're not going to tolerate anything like that.
And you brought up Antifa, and that's what's happening. We
saw that in previous riots and Tifa just looks for
an excuse to come and do destruction and that's what
we're seeing in LA and some of these other cities too.
(07:34):
They could care less about deportation or anything like that.
It's just an opportunity for them the wreck havoc. And
you know, they're professionals are doing that, and they know
how to do it, and they come prepared. You know,
they put out a sheet that tells you exactly what
to wear to protect yourself from bring an umbrella to
(07:55):
keep the stuff from getting on your masks, and how
to wear knee pads, all stuff. They come fully equipped.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know. The same weekend we saw it in Columbia,
we also saw it in Charleston where they actually did
some damage, particularly downtown. But now we got a new
sheriff in Charleston County. Do you have a relationship with them.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I know carl Richie very well, doing very well, so
that's not going to happen. But it wasn't in the county.
It was in the city and that's where the problem
came because the county sheriff at that time wasn't involved
in it, and it was the city and the mayor
who made the decisions on what they were not going
to do, which was do anything and let them burn
(08:33):
Charleston down for a good while. Well, sat totally dops
it from what we had here, right, You had the
city and the county working very closely. You had a
mayor who got on TV and said, take y'all's asses home.
I mean that set the tone on that we were
not going to tolerate any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, Saturday is Flag Day. It's also a big military celebration.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
On the fiftieth anniversary of the Army and the anniversary
of my fiftieth year and a.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Cop happy and so with this big military parade happening
in DC, a lot of people around the country are
have named it Trump's Birthday celebration because it is his
birthday as well, and sore and they're saying they're gonna
have these no Kings protests, and one of them is
(09:21):
scheduled for Columbia Saturday, twelve thirty till four, and the
Attorney General has issued a warning to them. Do you
have anything you'd like to say to the people going
to the No King's protest?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, peaceful protests and there's nothing wrong with that. You're
gonna go to the State House grounds and peacefly protests
and make speeches and all that stuff. That's great. Don't
come off the State House ground and think you're gonna
go down Main Street or Gervais Street and any streets
and burned buildings and break in buildings and deluding and
burn cars. That ain't gonna happen. It just we're not
(09:53):
going to allow that. It's just not and they'll be
met with with some strong force.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Unfortunately, because of your job description your other share up
and you have to deal with a lot of criminal activity,
but there's always an opportunity for parents in particular to
get their children on the right path. In Richland County,
you've always done a good job in setting up these
summer programs. How are we coming this week? This year?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
We've got I think it's eight or nine summer programs.
I just looked at the list before I left here.
I come over here, so we got all our summer programs.
So our school resource officers are running them there throughout
Richland County and go to our website, our CSD dot net,
look at them time and you can sign this out.
And one thing that we've done is the free We're
(10:34):
not charging people to come to our camps. It's me
We miss out on the kids who probably need it
the most because the parents can't afford a camp like
most places charge a lot of money to go to
a camp. So through donations, through people giving me money
to speak or something like that, we put it in
these programs so we can we can fund it. We
(10:56):
got a golf tournament that this individual puts on and
gives us the proceeds from that every year about seven
eight thousand dollars. We use that for summer camps too,
so but our summer camps have got character camps, sports camps,
science camps, painting clamps. We got all kinds of camps
for you. So just you know, get your child involved,
that's what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Sure, Leah lot with us, and we're recording this on Wednesday,
and you were mentioning some of the recent violence that's
happened in Columbia. Any updates on how your canine is doing.
I remember a couple of weeks ago you had one get.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Shot, got shot, I got shot in the ear. I'm
happy to say that the dog and the handler's back
at work and actually have had to bite some bad
guys since then. Oh really, we had a young man
decided he was going to break in multiple cars a
couple of nights ago. I mean multiple cars, not just
(11:48):
going in with the doors on open, he was breaking windows.
Oh wow, Well, somebody saw him in the neighborhood called us.
We did a perimeter, kept him within, and then the
dog tracked him down and he decided he didn't want
to give up, so got a little bit of a
butt bite on him. So that dog is good Cairo
(12:09):
is the dog's name. But Cairo's doing good. We're very fortunate.
The one bullet went through the ear and they put
three stitches in it and moved right on on and
then got some abrasions on underneath the belly. We think
is probably a ricochet from it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Carol was like Trump got shot in the ears.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I know, but he's back at work. He's tracking and
biting and doing what he needs to do.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know, one of the things that happened this year
for the state, given our new budget and Richland County
and several other counties, but I know Richland Counties had
school resource officers in place at schools, all the schools
in the county. As we go into this next school session,
I know this is the time of the year when
you meet with administrators and talk about how to make
(12:57):
sure that their buildings are secure and safe and safety
protocols and you make recommendations. Is how's that? How did
this past year go and what do you anticipate for
your training for this year?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, this past year was good. I mean we had
the beginning of the school we had some knucklehead kids
who thought they could bring stuff in through the metal detectors.
Of course that didn't work. They had to find out
that you know, you can't bring the metal of your
gun or your knife in there. So we had a
few of those, but didn't have any shootings at our schools.
We actually had a very good safe year. We didn't
(13:28):
have incidents at football games or other athletic events are
a large gathering, so you know, and I applot all
three school districts that we deal with that they do
a good job and understanding that safety is first, and
so I know they have budget restraints, but when it
comes to safety that they don't shortcut on the money.
(13:49):
So we're able to have high visibility at these events
and have lots of SROs involved that know the kids,
you know, So that helps out a lot too. Instead
just having a deputy that don't knows people, you have
a deputies that's in the feeder school, say it's a
high school game, all the schools that feed in there,
the middle schools and elementary because that knows all those
(14:11):
kids they go to these football games, so they can
go little Johnny, I know you And that that works
as a thought process that goes into that. So last year,
this past school year was a good one. We already
ramping up for next year. Our s ros are at
the SKASROW which is the South Caroline School Resource Officer
(14:32):
Association conference, and then the DARE conferences going on. So
we've got them both in in in conferences, learning more,
get more up to date information and hopefully will just
continue to do a good path.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Excellent surif Lea and Lott with us on the on
the show today. And you know, in years previous we've
had you on talking about the hate crime law and
how you wanted one for the state of South Carolina.
Last week, Richland County became the first county in the
state to pass one of those laws. I imagine you
had something to do with that. And what do you
think of the new bill that they passed.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I had a lot to do with that, just
unfortunately have not been able to get it passed in
the state House. But Richmond County Council and unanimous decision,
so that was Republicans and Democrats all voted for it.
It gives us just another tool that we can use
that you know it's hate or bias. If you commit
(15:26):
a crime just based on that, then you need to
have a little bit extra added to your sentence and
be held accountable. So I think it made a big
statement to everybody in Richland County. That's the good people
and the bad people. You're not to be able to
do some of these things in Richland County you've been
able to do in the past. And we track these
tripe crimes, and I will tell you it is. I
(15:49):
think most people believe, well, it's a minority that's the
one that's being targeted. It's the other way around. It's
more white people have been victims of a hate bias
crime in Richmond County than it has been a minority,
and I think that surprises people. And I think when
it came down to vote, some of those that looked
(16:10):
like me decided, hey, that numbers, it shouldn't be that way,
so they voted for it. So I'm proud of Richmond
County Council for doing what they did. And Councilwoman tyr
a little when she got elected back in November, took
over in January. She met with me and that was
one thing that we discussed. So that was her pet
project and she made it happen.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I got a feeling that in the future now that
we have it in Richland County. You're going to have
some persons representing legislators or maybe the state themselves from
SLED taking a look at your statistics that you mentioned
to talk about how effective it's been and whether that
actually helps stem or it gives. Yet you'll want more
teeth to the availability of enforcement of laws on the books.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, and the state law that we've been pushing and
is not You don't get arrested because the hate crime.
You got arrested for another crime. But if you but
if hate or bias was part of it, then you
got more time put So it was an enhancement. So
it wasn't where I'm going to go out here and
lock you up because you use certain words. But if
(17:12):
you commit a crime and you use those words and
you're focusing on hate or bias somehow, then you should
be held accountable more than just the crime that you committed.
So that added to it. But we haven't been able
to get that passed either. We're one or two states.
Wyoming is the only other state that doesn't have a
state wide law. We've made these cases and I've had
to turn them over to US Attorney's office. We had
(17:35):
four African American men and one woman who was focusing
on the Hispanic population on robberies. I mean, and we
got their text messages how they talked about that's who
they were going after, why they were going after. They
probably did fifteen robberies, and we finally caught them, couldn't
do nothing with them statewide. The Feds took it and
(17:56):
I think the less any of them got was thirty years.
I think it was right well, thirty five years they
got because the Feds have a hate crime a.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know, I'll be the guy who plays Devil's advocate.
I'm reading this in the South Carolina Public broadcast. They're
saying it's now unlawful for a person to cause cause fear,
harm or damage to a person's property because of their race, gender,
sexual orientation, religion, or disability. Who decides if they caused fear, Well,
(18:27):
the person.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That was the victim of that fear has to be
articulated enough on what the cause of that fear is,
and so then that falls back on us and that
victim to be able to go to court and prove
that that's what happened. Okay, let's talk about something good
that real quick okayoball game. I couldn't bring my trophy
(18:51):
in here because it weighs so much. They played out
annual game against the Lexing County Sheriff's Department, and for
you know, it's a fundraiser for USO, who does so
much for our for our military, and I needed a
hype man. I needed somebody to get the crowd going
and just bring it up. I couldn't find one, and
then it hit me. I talked to him every month.
(19:14):
I get to watch him on TV doing commercials. I
gave him a hat so his head didn't get sunburned.
That day, Kelly Nash came out and did a fantastic job. Jonathan,
You've trained him well, I've seen you do the you
do it great. Kelly is following your footsteps. But we did.
We beat Lexon County for the second year in a row,
(19:35):
and so we bring the big trophy home. But raised
a lot of money and attention to USO and that's
what it was all about. But Kelly, I appreciate you
getting that last minute phone calling coming. You got a shirt, Yes,
you got a hat. Yeah, I got a cool jersey.
You got a hamburger to eat out couldn't get any better.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Did you get him some ball peanuts?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
No, we're practicing on that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, he played a little bit, but he was
basically the co and he had an interesting strategy that
I had not considered, which was he kept toeing the batters,
hit it on the ground, hit it on the ground.
And so the idea was they're going to cause.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Errors, right, and he was right.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
We saw throwing errors, we saw bibbles, and then softball,
you don't have time for an error. You don't have
time to bobble the ball.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
So I mean, if flyball is easy to catch, everybody
can catch a fly ball, quit you're not going to
hit a home run. And in a baseball part with
a softball, now I have one guy to get clothed.
He did, he got he got warning track. But so
you're not going to hit a home run. Hit line drives,
put the ball on the ground, make him make a play.
And then it worked out way. I mean, I think
(20:41):
we jumped on him like six to nothing. We got
early and then we coast for to one. After two. Yeah,
then we coasted a little bit, but that's that's two
years in a row. Had the trophy from the Peanut
Champion Peanut and Kelly. Kelly had to ask Sheriff Coon
who has the record for most peanuts eating. He came
(21:02):
up with all kinds of excuses, but finally a meeting,
yeah he got he's eating more than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I can't tell you this. Shercoon's already getting together his
strategy for next year, and he's probably going to have
these guys practicing every time they already practiced.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
They were protesting because the bases were going to be
put at ninety feet and they're like, we've been practicing
at sixty or whatever. They got all upset and so anyway, Yeah,
but you put it to them.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's fun when you just walk out of your police
car and walk on the field and put your uniform
on and go beat them. And they've been practicing like crazy.
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Well you have players either you were missing five of
your best players.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Have five of my top ten players. Wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, fun, we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, thanks for coaching them up, and thanks for being
the leader of our Richland Kunty share of step and
he's also big salute to all those persons who wear
the badge and volunteer Richland alexxing to then amfair Field.
Wherever it is that you work with law enforcement, whether
you're on the payroll or whether you're helping out because
you want to be part of the community, thank you
for your reference, and again thank you Sheriff Lote.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Thank you
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