09 1820 23 Is this Richland County Council learning from Carolina and Clemson?

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Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, we're breaking news right
now. How Speaker Kevin McCarthy isspeaking, expected to address a few issues,
including a potential impeachment inquiry into PresidentBiden. Let's listen, the President
Biden did lie to American people abouthis own knowledge of his family's foreign business

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dealings. Kelly Nash, don't doit. Please, don't the Jonathan and
Kelly Show. BOC. Somebody letlurch out what the world Kevin? Kevin,
not Kevin, You're what's called kayfed? Kay fed? Sorry?

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John John Fetterman with his reaction tothe announcement of the impeachment inquiry. Yeah,
and I don't understand how Fetterman hasgotten so much influence in the Democrat
Party a to even run for theSenate, then to win the Senate.

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And then Sunday, Chuck Schumer announcesthat he is now loosening the dress code,
specifically to accommodate John Fetterman. He'sso we don't have to wear suits
here anymore and make some of ourmembers uncomfortable. I will always wear the
suit because that's how I feel comfortable. But others who feel comfortable in hoodies
and baseball shorts. Can wear thatreally on the Senate floor. Yeah,

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Okay, this guy's got a lotof power. You got the whole Senate
to change to accommodate you. Ina day and age when Republicans had a
couple of House members like Santos thatwe're a little questionable, to say the
least. They love Fetterman. Idon't understand it. I don't know.
I can't. If you know I'mone of those guys, I recognize that

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I'm a homer. So if it'sa Republican or somebody that I like,
yeah, I'm gonna I'm going tosee it in the best possible light possible.
Right. If you tell me thatJoe Wilson has done something, I
will find some good in that becauseI love Joe Wilson. If you tell
me that some Democrat has done somethingstupid, if you tell me that James

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Clyburn has done something stupid, thereis or met middle of the road,
I will find a way to makethat bad. I'm a homer. I
get that about myself, but Ido try to put myself in other people's
shoes and cannot, for the lifeof me figure out why any Democrat would
be excited about John Fetterman, howdid you feel them watching the Trump interview

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with one miss Welker hosting a veryfirst Meet the Press. I don't understand
sometimes Donald Trump confuses me, andI can't understand why he would go on
the gotcha show, that that wholeshow is designed to be a gotcha yes,
and it's it's hostile towards you,and you're not gonna win over any

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of the audience. Now to Meetthe Press credits they did post apparently the
entire interview, which I want togo back and watch. I did go
back and listen to a couple ofsnippets because a couple of things that were
said yesterday when Trump says that,you know, he was got into this
whole circle conversation about the abortion billthat many are pushing to be codified,

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should it be federal, should itbe states rights issues? Only he got
in the middle of that having todo with at what point, which is
a question you'd love to ask Democratsbecause they can't tell you what week and
they don't want to admit they wantedto be like three weeks after, but
in fact, a lot of statesno matter what Kristen Welker says, allow
that, so we know that tobe true. A Barack Obama even I

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think it was O nine when hewithheld a vote on the House floor in
Chicago or in Illinois. Well no. Nine, he was the president.
Excuse me, been oh seven.I guess when he withheld his vote he
voted present when they were actually allowing. And then we had testimony from nurses
who in fact had some of themsaved babies after bod's abortions and or after

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childbirth. So we know that thisgoes on. But he got into the
circle of conversation and all he couldsay is it's going to be great.
We're gonna we're gonna work it out, so Democrats and Republicans will be happy.
I love Tim Scott, I loveDonald Trump. There's a lot of
Republicans that I like that I disagreewith right now. And the disagreement is
the correct answer was and remains.It's a state's issue. It's not covered

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in the constitution, right so we'renot putting it to the federal level.
It's going to remain a state's issue. And if California wants to abort children
at age nine, that's a Californiaissue. It is obviously against God,
it's against decency, it's in andoftentimes it's a crime against humanity with some

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of these pro abortionists are about.But because the Constitution doesn't address it,
then it has to remain a state'sissue. And so I don't know why
you would delve into that. Ifyou're running for a federal position. Don't
just say it's states, it's astate issue. Let the states deal with
it. The states will deal withit, kind of like what you should

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have said, Donald Trump when youwere the president about COVID. We're not
going to have a federal policy regardinghow it's not the federal government's concern.
I mean, that is a state'sconcern, and we will support the states.
However they ask us to well,I had to stifle a laugh.
Where in the middle of that,she kept pressing for an answer, and

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he would never come down to theobvious, as you and I both agree.
But he made the comment and thisis what Republicans should say. And
they went on to say something.They say it ineloquently, they say it
very and artfully or ineloquently. I'veforgotten what the word was, you know,
La, I'm like, good lord, this has gotten out of control
at that point. But you knowKristen Welker did. They had it heavily

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edited so they could make him lookas bad as possible, and then she
would always come back in with afor the record, which half of what
she said was it true? Butthey did post up the entire interview.
So if you want to see that, it's on the NBC Meet the Press
web page, or if you'd liketo see the highly edited and then totally

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discredited Donald Trump interview, you canwatch that on the program that aired yesterday.
You know, I'm I had athought this morning as I was coming
in listening that Chris Christi is apparentlyup in the polls, specifically in New
Hampshire where apparently that's Chris Christie hasmade a calculated decision that he's going to
basically not campaign in Iowa and SouthCarolina a whole lot. It's going to

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be really all about New Hampshire.He's hoping to make a big stand in
New Hampshire. And you know,he's up to ten points right now,
which whoop be. You know,Donald Trump is still pulling it like forty
eight percent there. When when Ithink about the candidates that are running.

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There is a bunch like Chris Christie, and that could be Asa Hutchinson.
I think I've heard Mike Pence sayit. I've definitely heard Will Heard say
it. Doug Bergham has said itthe Guy's Diary, I said, Asa
Hutchinson. There's a bunch of themthat have said we can't let Trump win.

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That is their main issue as towhy they're running, if they actually
believed that. And I was thinkingabout Chris Christy specifically when I was having
this thought pattern this morning. ChrisChristie is working very hard to get his
polling numbers up in New Hampshire.Who is he taking those those numbers from
Donald Trump? Still pretty much fortyeight to fifty percent across the board.

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You're not getting your votes from him. You're getting your votes from other people
like Tim Scott or Nicky Haley orLarry Elder or you know somebody else.
But you're not you're not against Trump. Yeah, you're not helping to stop
Donald Trump if that's your actual concern. What your real goal apparently is is

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to become the president, not tostop Donald Trump from being the president.
So if that's your goal, youshould say that's your goal and then run
on those merits, not I'm betterthan Trump or Trump's bad for America.
Why are you good for America?See that's why I appreciate Tim Scott,
Vake Ramaswami and others that are sayingDonald Trump is a great president. I

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just think I could do a betterjob moving forward. And then you point
out the limitations that a second termobviously bring. You're now unable to you
know, you can't threaten to runfor another term. So everything here is
going to have to happen in thenext two years because you're gonna be without

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the House and the Senate backing youmoving forward. For the last two years.
You can talk about his age,you could talk there's a lot of
things you can talk about that areagainst Trump, but you can't if you
say I don't like Donald Trump's policies, then we hate you as America.
Yeah, and Trump gave you alittle gift yesterday. I don't know if
you are I guess it was Friday. I'm not sure when he spoke over

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the weekend, but he was makinga first He made a statement about Joe
Biden cognitively, cognitively unavailable and thenhe went on to say that Joe Biden
will lead us into World War two. Another one of those moments where Kelly
was desperately go search for something tohelp cover up the sins of when Donald

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J. Trump, Oh, comeon, we all know what he meant
exactly. So but you will seethat. You'll you will definitely see that
if you're in New Hampshire ended upcomingChris Chris television. Oh absolutely, yeah
he would. He's not gonna letthat one go. No, that's like
Chris Christy with a cupcake. Youcan't separate those two. That's great.

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The only thing it may be leftwill be under his fingernail. You know.
The Democrats continue to, I thinkoverplay their hand federally and locally.
If you look at Gavin Newsom signinginto law this new minimum wage for fast
food workers and what they identify asfast food workers or as a restaurant chain

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that has a minimum of sixty nationwiderestaurants, so if it's only got fifty
and there's you know, say thirtyeight in California, and they also they
do is serve burgers, not afast food restaurant. For some reason,
they set the number at sixty andthen for some reason, fast food workers

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are apparently more valuable than people whowork at like a you know, TGI
Fridays or you know those types ofplaces, because the minimum wage in California
for regular people is fifteen dollars,but they're targeting specifically fast food workers.
You're going to go to twenty dollarsan hour beginning April first now of twenty

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twenty four, and then they're goingto raise your salary according to state law,
by either three and a half percentor the cost of living increase moving
forward beginning in twenty twenty five throughtwenty thirty. I think they signed the
law for which is one of themthat is so anti business, anti common

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sense, anti everything. There isno possible way that you can say that
a dishwasher who works at TGI Fridaysis less valuable than the dishwasher at Burger
King, but they are according toCalifornia law that goes into effect now.
And if you're like a Slim Chickens, which I think is based out of

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Tennessee or North Carolina, and youhave sixty six or let's say you have
seventy restaurants, you only have onein California. Look for that one to
close. Yeah, that one's gonegone off the board, so that their
own estimates were that they were goingto lose thirty five hundred jobs, I
think, and like fifty restaurants,or maybe I'm under I feel like I'm

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under selling that. But they themselvesare predicting fewer opportunities for Californians to work
in the fast food industry and feweroptions for California diners to have drive throughs.
I'm trying to remember. Yeah,this weekend was a blur. We
put my mom. My mom waslaid to rest Friday afternoon, So this

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weekend has been a little bit ofa blur for me. But I did
have an opportunity to speak with speakwith that would be interesting. I had
an opportunity to hear Lawrence Tribe speakwith someone. It was not on Fox
News, and Lawrence Tribe was talkingabout all the states that are now challenging

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Donald Trump's eligibility to be on theballot for the presidential election. So as
they put out the fourteenth Amendment andgo back to the Civil War, these
states are now making and every oneof them is a Democrat attorney general.
Obviously, but they're making the casethat Donald Trump's name cannot appear on their

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ballot because he is an insurrectionist,and plainly, as described in the fourteenth
Amendment, he is ineligible to beplaced on the ballot. And even if
you wrote him in, he's ineligibleto hold office. Is the way I
should terminoli the terminology would be ineligibleto hold office. So we cannot be
on the ballot. Now, LawrenceTribe did give me a little information as
he's following all the court proceedings ineach state. It's a little bit different

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the way that this will proceed,but the end result is it will end
up at the Supreme Court, andthose lawsuits apparently are going to start pretty
soon. So it's going to beinteresting to see as these states make their
pitch and it starts going up tothe state supreme Court, and then its
appealed to I guess Appellate Court andthen to the Supreme Court. It'll be
interesting to see how this plays out. Think about what an insult the Democrat

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Party is to the rest of America. So you're saying that Donald Trump is
ineligible to be the president. Arewe not capable of detecting that ourselves.
That's the ultimate insult. And theyeven asked one of the hosts or someone
asked, well, wouldn't that besomething that the voters could determine? And

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he has automatically qualified anybody who wouldvote for Donald Trump as in fact an
insurrectionist. So if you were inMiami that day, but you are a
Trump voter, than you are aninsurrectionist. You, by by using your
privileges as an American citizen to votefor a candidate, have now subjected yourself

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to possible legal prosecution. Yes,yeah, in the minds of the Democrat
Party because you voted Republican, youshould go to prison. And the other
most that doesn't sound third world atall, doesn't No, not at all.
The other most insightful information I gotit was a history note and it

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came from watching Life, Liberty andLevine last night. I had heard that
Mark Levine, who we are bothfans of. Yes, kind of incredible
genius. He is talking about anew book. Oh, I know what
it was. He did a quicksegment on I guess Fox and Friends.
We can. I'll say we're bothbackbenchers, but we always credit him,

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oh totally when we steal his stuff. We're not stealing it without giving him
credit if he hates it. Whenthe backbenchers that people like us who don't
understand enough about the law start quotinghim like but quoting him like we knew
it ourselves, we never do that. We always quote Levin and give you
the Levin credit. Yeah, ifLevin walked into the studio right now,
I would turn off my microphones andour microphones and turn on his. If

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he showed up at Saturday, ona Saturday at tenth at No, we're
not gonna give him law given theentire no one of the things he pointed
out, and I learned the original. You know, I love the origin
of policies, for I did notknow much like the origin. Well,

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I'll just stick to the same issue. I did not know we're redlining.
Although I knew what it meant,I did not know we're redlining originated.
Redlining originated in nineteen thirty four.You can look it up on the web
page to give you the same descriptionas Mark Levine gave you in a history
note last night on either his programor over the weekend on Fox and Friends

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in the morning. And it basicallywas a circle. It was a red
circle in an area of any mapin any city in America that was predominantly
African American, and you were withheldcertain availabilities from banks, mortgagers and the
like, even insurance companies, sothat they would inspire African Americans to be

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able to increase their homeownership. Andit was retained solely for purposes of whites.
The thing that they leave out onthe Wikipedia page that Mark Lavine was
explaining last night in his new book, Democrats Hate America, is that the
president in nineteen thirty four, ifyou don't remember, was one FDR and
FDR who he claims was a totalracist. He was a Democrat, went

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out of his way to make surethat African Americans would not afforded the same
operation tunities from the banking industry inorder to increase the home ownership inside the
population. And then he goes onin other ways to describe how the Democrats
hate America. That was just oneof the notes. But I learned that
last night, and I'm like,really well, and I just wanted to
look it up just because I waspretty sure that the Democrats had a pretty

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strong hold on the House of Representatives, which was the obviously the People's House,
sure in order for the make tothe President's desk or anything like that.
And so the mood of the countryin the nineteen thirties, because remember
we had the late twenties and thetwenties were run by the Republicans and a
lot of instances, but once thedepression hit, the Republicans took all the

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blame for that and the Democrats justtook over everything. So in nineteen thirty
four, the holy crap, itwas three hundred and twenty two seats went
to the Democrats to a three forthe Republicans. So the Republicans were completely
out of power. They had nothing. They couldn't do a dang thing.

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So anytime you talk about the OldSouth or you talk about the way the
racist ways of America, understand thatthat rose to prominence with the ku Klux
Klan aka the Democratic Party. Yesthough, that is who was running the
country, and the Republicans built aname off trying to get equal access to

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everything. The Republicans have always beenthe party of We're not going to favor
or dissuade anybody based on race.Martin Luther King should have been a Republican
the way he spoke, and Iwas thinking about JFK. JFK was obviously
a Democrat president. The most famousline he ever uttered is one of the

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most republican things you can ever say, ask not what your country can do
for you, but what you cando for you country. Yeah, those
are Republican mottos. And I wasthinking, well, Kelly, what about
the Big Switch. By the way, if you want to see one of
the best documentaries on the Big Switch, I think it was the nesh to
SUSA who did an entire documentary onthe Big Switch when supposedly Republicans and Democrats

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changed personalities. Why would we dothat? Yeah, exactly. So there's
an interest and it's like I'd say, the documentaries about an hour long.
But it's interesting how Danish walks youthrough every step of that with everything you've
ever heard about the Big Switch.So do they give you a year like
or a decade that that happens.It's a decade? What was the decade
over? And well it would havebeen then the forties. Is that when

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the Democrats became the good guy.I'm thinking like when Lyndon Johnson was was
was basically doing everything he could toavoid the Civil Rights Act Lyndon Johnson.
Wow, and even the Kennedy's exactly. I mean that's the mid sixties.
Yeah, I mean it's and itgoes, but it brings in strom Thurman
and the like. So yeah,I guess it would have been the late

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fifties up to the mid sixties.Anyway, there was something else I wanted
to mention I learned over the weekendthat was really insightful by the way Martin
Levin's new book, Democrats had America. I understand it comes out tomorrow,
maybe it comes out today. I'mnot sure, but I want to get
a copy of that. That lookslike a great history read. I love
a great history read that puts itinto a life applicable form, which apparently

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is what this book's entire purpose is. Okay, so we look at history
and learn from it. An amazingconcept I know. Right in South Carolina,
Kelly has a theory that, asClemson showed us, if you build
a playground, the athletes will come. Yeah. I remember what was it
about, maybe twelve fifteen years ago. Clemson University invested an unbelievable amount of

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money at the time to build apractice facility and the highlight I remember was
a slide side and that got allthese five star athletes excited. We all
must Champ followed the same thing whenit's when he bought his big property own
Lake Marie and his own private privatehouse that he used for recruiting. And

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then the University of South Carolina kindof followed suit and built this beautiful practice
facility that we have now. Andyou know, if you've seen it on
video, the players apparently don't haveto use towels because they're air dried when
they leave the showers. I mean, there's a bowling alley, a haircut,
I mean, there's all these thingsthat we now that was pre nil.

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That's true. So once nil hitabout two years ago, universities realized
players don't give a crap about thatstuff. I mean, it's nice to
have, but if they could,it's the option between getting paid or not
using a towel. I'm getting paid, particularly for meeting with the families because
mama wants some cash. Yeah,Colorado right now does not have a very

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nice actice facility or anything else verynice. But what they do have is
Dion Sanders and a ton of nilmoney coming in and five stars are flocking
to Colorado. We have long sinceread that the State of South Carolina and
a lot of our agencies, particularlywith social services and dss AS being one
of them in particular, so we'vehad a hard time recruiting enough workers to

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actually fulfill the responsibilities the state hasto its citizens. And Kelly thinks that
with this new initiative in Richland Countyin particular, we may be leading the
way and making sure that we haveenough Richland County employees to facilitate the needs
that the county not only deserves throughits taxpayer dollars, but demands through the
needs that are demonstrated daily in thenewspaper. And it's an elongated story that

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they wrote on the state newspaper wherethey don't give you all the facts.
You kind of have to discover them, like easter eggs. It's a drip
drip, ye in the story.But the basic here's the numbers. I
want you to remember. They're nowconsidering asking for a seventy million dollars bond
to help outfit the Richland or whatused to be called the Columbia Place.

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Mallo right there. Yeah. Now, later on in the story you see
that they've already gotten seventeen million inFederal American Rescue Plan money. And then
later on in the story you findout in twenty twenty two, we already
took out forty million dollars in bondsto start working in that mall to build

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a fancy Oh, I'm sure it'sthe fanciest nine one one call center,
the new E nine one one.Yeah. So, now so if you
add all that up, yeah,because that's what you gotta do. Sure,
so, now you're talking about seventyplus seventeen. Now you're at eighty
seven plus forty, you're well overone hundred and twenty five million dollars.

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Then you have to ask yourself,as a Richland County resident, how is
my life improved by well, youtake the seventeen million dollars off, because
we got that from the Feds,but the rest of it is just debt.
How am I? How is mylife improved by roughly one hundred and
twenty million dollars being spent? Ijust thought of one ample parking. Oh

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my gosh, Yes, if youhave to go into one of the agencies,
Yes, is there anything that theyare doing that they haven't already been
doing right, Like does DSS havemore employees now? Does you know?
I mean the whole the bottom lineis you want your tax dollars to be
used to improve everyone's life in thecounty or town wherever you live. That's

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not happening here. It's like beingon the Angel List over at Mark Hammond's
Secretary of State's office for charities whoutilize ninety seven percent of their money to
actually go to the efforts that youcontributed to three percent administrative costs. That
makes that put you on the Angellist. But in Richland County, seems
like our administrative costs for administrative agenciescontinues to climb higher and higher and more

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money goes to the facility. Yes, we're gonna have what we're gonna have
like the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Worlddown here. And so if you're a
county employee, well you know howto wait. I just thought about what
if we're gonna we're gonna get afood court out of this right because it's
in the mall. You'd actually becauseyou're gonna be there all day waiting for
county services to facilitate you have aplace to get something to eat. I

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don't know if that's part of theplan. I mean, as they re
outfit the Burlington coat factory and theDillards or whatever, will they keep the
Chick fil A or whatever they hadin the food court. I don't know,
but I'm reminded of was it JamesManning who was the he was Richland
County Council, that's right, Andthere was there was this thing where probably

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was that about eight years ago,where we had already spent a bunch of
money on the Richland County Council officesmillion dollars and then like a year later
they decided they were going to doa complete new upgrade. Everything that we
had just spent was going to betorn out and they were going to put

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in like a state of the artsound system, fancy new leather chairs and
desks and television sets and all thisand whatever. It came to twelve million
dollars or something, and James Manningwas on television and you know he said
something. I don't remember how hewalked himself through it, but he said,
you know, once we got tothe you know the thing, we

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might we might as well just getthe whole package. Well, you know,
on the suppliers package did up foryou. You always get the discount
with the package. We're saving money. If you would have saved money,
you didn't do it. That's howyou saved money. People on a budget
recognized that. But the Richland CountyCouncil and Richland politics in general just love
to spend money and not show usanything for it. Well, maybe people

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are learning from the school districts whofor all those years are in competition to
steal teachers from other districts. Maybewe'll be wooing over employees now from Kershaw
County or Lexton County they come towork in Richland County. Do you think
they like fancy offices over paychecks?With a Chick fil A in the food
court? Is it free? Arewe are we gonna use tax dollars?

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Why did they get a county employeediscount? Chick fil A would be glad
to cut that deal. Hey,I'd put a restaurant in there. You
have lots of people standing in lineall day and day. You've got a
captive audience. All right, listen, we will we'll continue to follow that
story. Maybe we'll end up gettingthe whole package. We don't even know
what's included in the package,