10 03 2023 Big Day in SC! and a bigger day in SF! ?

None

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush. We're here because we
need to make a significant change,Kelly Nash. No more handouts without accountability.
So in order to get resources fromour city, you will need to
be in a substance eustace order programand consistently seeking treatment. The Jonathan and

(00:23):
Kelly showboc Wow. I wonder howthat's going to go over in the streets
of San Francisco. This is whywe came here. That's I mean,
I thought that was like some sortof governor of Idaho or some right London
Breed. What in the world,what is happening here, Kelly, Well,

(00:43):
again, as you said, thatis London Breed. The mayor of
San Francisco today talking about how they'vehad enough. I think what they're seeing.
If you're at the point where LondonBreed, the mayor of San Francisco,
who wants to be as liberal aspossible, is announcing that you must
be in a drug rehab facility andyou must test clean in order to get

(01:06):
city services, then the polling isoff the charts. Even in liberal areas,
we can't do. The experiment isdying. You know, there was
a great side by side yesterday ofKathy Hokel, the Governor of New York,
and it was Kathy Hokel twenty twentyone verse Kathy Hokel twenty twenty three

(01:27):
and Kathy Hokel twenty twenty one issaying, and in some sort of an
interview or maybe it was a speech, a State of the State speech or
something, she was trying to paraphrasethe send us you're tired. She said
something else about your It wasn't huddledmasses. I forget the phrase that she
used, but anyway, she wassaying, all citizens of the world are

(01:49):
welcome in New York. Come here. If you're illiterate, addicted to drugs,
homeless, we love you in NewYork. Splice the twenty twenty three
just I mean, not even twentyfour months later, and she's like,
we're all filled up. There's nomore room. If you've got a problem,

(02:10):
you can't contribute to New York's prosperity. You need to either get out
or never come here to begin with. We have no more room for you
people. The experiment is over.John. Then there's this idea of liberalism.
It felt good to say it,but to live it out is just
too much for him. Yeah,apparently this was a nationwide zoom call.
Even the Clintons were in on it, and the Clintons are the Clintons are

(02:34):
working hard to make sure that thenew initiative is out there. Now.
You got to get Bill Clinton inbecause he's the Democrat voice who announced the
era big Government's over, so heknows how to sell it. Now.
The question is are there any buyers. And the buyers that are they're trying
to corral right now, good luck. I mean, the best thing it

(02:58):
could happen to them is that theyrealize there, if you're London, breed
your city's end early. So allthe homeless now are getting on buses and
going to Seattle. Quick, getto Seattle before they shut the place down.
I mean. And Portland, Imean, look the whole idea that
this fairy tale could continue, thattaxpayers, even in the most liberal areas,

(03:23):
I mean, make yourself as socialistas possible, make yourself as liberal
as possible. And then just atsome point when you start seeing like the
Congress people are being carjacked, whenyou start seeing that the mayor is the
mayor of Portland who is getting runout of town on a rail. Remember

(03:43):
who it was in the middle ofthat crowd. Remember that. But I
mean, you can only accept somuch lawlessness, and then you say,
you know what, the experiment's over. We can't be nice to these people.
And this is how you know thatthey're really going to take a hit.
And you only got a year tostraighten us out. You're not going
to straighten it out in a year. You're really going to take a hit
with suburban women. This is wherethe suburban women poll came in, and

(04:05):
it's desperately bad. And the Democratshave now got to try to figure out
a way to go back because theycan own the minority groups that they like
to claim that they do. Andeven with the some of the social media
videos you're seeing from Hispanics and theones we've seen from Blacks for Trump in
particular, those those are okay,and they can deal with a little bit

(04:28):
of loss on that. But whenyou see them make this kind of hard
shift, there's some internal polling thatshows them something is desperately wrong. And
the surprising part is, and I'mshell shot by it, that we know
that Barack Obama's behind everything that isDemocrat Party twenty twenty three, well past
eight years, and then going forwardhopefully for another rate. So he would

(04:50):
say, but they woefully miss missthe mark on this with the sanctuary cities.
And I keep thinking about the Philadelphiamayor. Remember that guy, the
chubby little guy that the little dancewhen he came in and celebrated with his
secretary. Where I think you wherewe said today? Yep? You know,
if I was to guess that theymissed the mark, I don't know

(05:15):
that they even believed that this wouldever test well. Missing the mark would
be So again, take it backto twenty twenty twenty one, I should
say, Joe Biden takes office.First first thing he does is he starts
rolling back regulations at the border,they're flood They're sending out an invitation,

(05:35):
please come to America and create chaos. We want your gang members, we
want your drug prostitutes, we wantall of that here. Now, why
would they want that? Because theplan was always to overwhelm the system.
I think that they thought they couldactually destroy the country before the twenty twenty

(05:55):
four election, and now they're gettingto the point where they don't see it's
possible. They they're like, oh, crap, we have another election.
They were hoping it would be likewe had to just we have to just
declare martial law. At some pointthe cities are overrun with lawlessness. Of
course the federal government has to sweepin and take over so there'll be no
more elections. We're going to takeit from here. That's what they were

(06:18):
hoping for. And they don't seehim getting it done in the next whatever,
ten eleven months, so they're like, well, freak it now,
we got to act like we likethese people. But anytime, like when
you see the you know, governoror mayor Adams in New York or what's
his face, the guy in Chicago. Yesterday, I was reading his letter

(06:40):
to Biden, and that letter wasshocking to me about when he was talking
about the amount of money. Firstoff, it was the amount of money
that the city itself had spent.And then the state of Illinois is going
bankrupt on these illegal or as theywould call migrants, and they're saying we

(07:00):
need federal help immediately. We're overwhelmed. And the guy said in the letter,
they're now sleeping in the police stations, they're sleeping in the training stations,
they're sleeping in the schools, They'resleeping everywhere. We have nowhere else
to put them. Well, andthat's just a fraction of what's still coming.
Oh yeah, what's coming is goingto be unbelievable. And there is

(07:24):
no point a matter of fact.You see the Biden agents down there cutting
the wires they want more. Sowhen you see like Democrat mayors and Democrat
governors going, holy crap, dude, this is chaos. That's exactly what
Joe Biden wanted, and that's whatBarack Obama wants. Valerie Jarrett wants the

(07:44):
whole the big party wants that thelocal party is like, oh we miscalculated,
all right. So now today onMSNBC in particular, I was just
looking to see if they're covering thiswall to wall, and it will be
because this is the big McCarthy votecoming up today. So you're gonna try
to make you feel like the RepublicanParty is in odds with itself because you

(08:07):
have this power going, this powerfriction between Matt Gates and Kevin McCarthy that's
gonna be featured all day today whilethey will do nothing in covering. Its
funny because you sometimes I'll just flipback over to MSNBC and make sure they're
still on track, and they are. The coverage yesterday with Trump having to
do with what's her name? Uh? What is? What is Letitia?

(08:31):
Not Letitia Lafonda. Lafonda's a wholedifferent story. And to go look up
the Napoleon Dynamite videos yesterday and Lafonda. Yeah. So I don't know if
you've had an opportunity to hear uhuh District Attorney James in New York,
she's she's Letitia Letitia attorney general.Sorry, she has gotten all wrapped up

(08:56):
around herself with this Donald Trump inflatingand def aiding the property values. And
I don't know what the kind ofestimation they're putting on the property having in
Florida. Maybe it's because they livein New York and they think only there's
expensive property only in one place inAmerica. But there's no way that they
claimed that Marlago is worth seventeen million? Is that what their estimation is?

(09:18):
Oh? I have no idea.I mean when this lawsuit was first announced,
I guess over a year ago.Now. My whole question has always
been, and it's never changed,who is the victim in order to have
a crime, there has to bea victim. You can't do a crime
if there's no victim, and thereis no victim been provided. They're saying

(09:39):
that the banks were defrauded, butthe banks received all of their money.
So their concept that Donald Trump overestimatedthe value of his net worth in order
to get favorable rates from the bank, which he then repaid. Where's the
crime. I mean, you maysay that the bank didn't do due diligence.

(10:03):
Let's just say Donald Trump said hewas a billionaire and he was only
worth you know, twenty million.I don't know. Let's say you claimed
that your apartment at Tapa Trump Towersworth three hundred and twenty seven million dollars
when actually it's only worth two hundredand fifty million, Okay, And they're
claiming that he got favorable rates rightbecause of that. In other words,
he got lower interest payments because hesaid he was worth X amount of money,

(10:28):
which I mean, it's like melying about my credit score. You
can check this stuff. You cancheck it sure you. I mean,
is the bank incapable of putting avalue on a business? Do they not
have access to the books either,or if they didn't do it. That's
on them. But either way,they're they're not bringing the lawsuit. The

(10:50):
banks aren't claiming. There are nobanks standing in line at the court's claiming
they've been defrauded and they've lost money. Yeah, the court is come up
with their own I mean, whenyou talk about a witch hunt, I
mean, at least in a witchhunt, there's somebody claiming that the witch
did harm to me. Yes,there's nobody claiming Donald Trump hurt them,

(11:13):
and yet he's in court facing whatthey're calling the death penalty in business.
I don't understand, which, bythe way, I heard they didn't even
give that to what's his face,the Ponzi scheme guy, Sam Bankman Freed.
No, no, no, theother guy made Off. Yeah,
Bernie Madoff's business didn't get what they'rethreatening Donald Trump's with, and Madeoff is

(11:37):
guilty of really hurting a lot ofpeople. What did you see these speaking
of Bernie Madoff and then Sam BankmanFreed, did you see the Sam Bateman
Freed story that he was going topay Trump not to run for president?
What made it the offer? What? Yes, there was an offer,
supposedly that there was an inner circleand the MSNBC would believe you believe that

(11:58):
they actually we're having this conversation withthe Trump people, and the Trump people
were engaging in the conversation where itwas gonna be like five billion dollars for
him not to run, and they'releading you to believe that Donald Trump would
have taken the five billion if ifSam Babe were free to come up with
the money. But he didn't havethe money. I'm surprised. Yeah,
so, but there is I don'tbelieve there's any amount of money that Donald

(12:20):
J. Trump would have taken notto run for president. I don't think
you can bribe the man off ofhim running for president. I don't believe
that's possible. Well, I meanagain, but Donald Trump. I mean
that if you're trying to paint DonaldTrump in a bad light, you say
that he calls veteran suckers, andyou say that he's in this to build
up his personal wealth and personal brand. Most of us believe that Donald Trump

(12:43):
doesn't need any more money, doesn'tdoesn't I don't want to say doesn't want
any more money. But Donald Trumpis not motivated by money. Donald Trump
is actually making a sacrifice to runfor president. Which is very attractive to
a lot of people who are tiredof politicians. Like Diane Einstein. We
were reading about her personal wealth oflike two hundred and fifty million dollars yesterday

(13:05):
and it's like, well, howdoes she build that off of what she
was the mayor of San Francisco orsomething, and then she became a congresswoman,
and then she became a senator,and at no point in her life
did she make more than say,well, we'll bost it all the way
up to two hundred grand a year, make it a million a year.
Right. You weren't an office fortwo hundred and fifty years, were you?

(13:28):
I know, it felt like along time. All right. So
it's gonna be more interesting today whenyou go back because we've got Donald J.
Trump. It's gonna be back incourt today. He's not going to
give this up. And Sally's like, well, I wanted to be out
there talking about the election. I'mlike why, why why? I think
that Lindsey Graham made the point theother Ninal television. I know, it's

(13:50):
always a love hate relationship. Yougotta flip the coin when you're with Lindsay,
but he made a point that youknow, Donald Trump doesn't He doesn't
need to be an eye doesn't needto be in South Carolina. If the
Trump supporters in the Iowa and SouthCarolina know what's happening. And that's why
it's important to make sure that youfollow the news on Donald Trump, in

(14:11):
particular with New York on this caseand all the other cases that are lining
up, all the other cases thatare lining up. He didn't say that,
I'm saying that, okay, buthe's right, and we certainly have
precedent that you don't have to Youcan be in the basement and win an
election, right Joe Biden to tellyou that, so you know this really
is then goes back to they missedtheir mark, they missed their mark on

(14:35):
what the hell they're doing here?To this guy and with a judge yesterday
with that little half ass cackle ofhis when the camera was on. Oh,
this is a total show. Imean, this is this has nothing
to do with justice. No,but again, look at look at her
now. Yeah, the Latitia isjust drooling. She's so excited. I

(14:56):
don't know, I don't know thatthey're missing them all right, So if
let's just take yourself back and listento a lot of the people who are
never Trumpers or whatever. They're saying, the Democrats only chance of winning the
White House is Donald Trump is thecandidate. So we must do everything possible

(15:18):
to make sure Donald Trump's the candidate. And the only way we could make
sure he's the candidate is to puthim up on a cross, let the
people think he's the victim, andeverybody will rally to his side. That's
what they're That's what they're saying.The strategy is. So if that's what
they're trying to do, it's working. I mean, by the way,
side note, right now, itseems to be the second hottest candidate is

(15:41):
Nicky Haley. Nicky Haley has explodedin the last week. They're talking about
mega donors are lining up on massnow to get with Nicky Haley. Yeah.
I think she realized and she reallycame out ready. She came out
armed the other night of that seconddebate, and she knew that she was
going to have to in order takedown Vavake for sure, and the lines

(16:04):
she had against him. And youknow something, there are a lot of
things Vavac says that I really canappreciate, but there are a lot of
things that he says. You go, you know something, you're a little
bit ahead of the curve on thatone. Brother, I'm Kelly and I
are plugged into a lot of pollinginformation, a lot of news information,
a lot of history that we liketo study. But make sure that we

(16:26):
understand what could happen next, becausethat's the best predictor of all. And
you look at some of the positionshe takes a lot of the average people.
A lot of people I talked tohim on the streets don't even know
some of the things are some ofthe reasons why he would say, for
instance, we need to bring insaying the silence back. Now, I'm
not saying that we don't have aneed to make sure that mental health is
an address. Better when you starttalking about bringing in saying asylums back,

(16:48):
which is pretty much what he sayspoint blank, you know that's a little
too aggressive in the conversation for alot of Americans. Well, with the
good news for if you look,if you're a vague support or you would
say, well, here's the goodnews. Veik has already sworn off there
will be no pack money. NickyHilly is fueled on pack money. You
want swamp Nicky Hilly just became theswamp. That is certainly a good argument.

(17:11):
And she is not going to turndown the money because she knows that
you're going to have to get Xamount of that in order to make sure
that you continue your progress. Andshe's certainly going to continue that because she's
in it to win it, andthat's for sure. Now, other things
happen we need to talk about beforewe move on to South Carolina. There's
and there was a big reason tocelebrate in South Carolina today. This was

(17:33):
the first shining smiley rash thought we'vehad on WVOC and I can't even remember
the last one, can you?I know it. We're usually doom and
gloom over here. There was somethingelse I saw last night of the news.
I want to talk about this carjacking for a second too. You
know what's what's really interesting and wecan all point to this and maybe we've
even maybe I have openly mocked itas I should not have in the past.

(17:59):
But you're not going to find ananswer to the border situation until one
of these high the ruling class electedofficials at the Senate or at least the
house level, possibly in the executivebranch as well, until one of their
sons and orders pays the ultimate pricefrom an illegal immigrant, illegal alien drunk

(18:21):
it out of control on the highwaysor just brought here from a prison somewhere
in Venezuela and released on the streets. Until you have one of those bodies
laid on the altar. You're reallynot going to hear about much of this
on the news on NBC or ABCor CBS, and we haven't really until
last night, which I thought wasinteresting that we do have the card jacking
story of a Democrat house member inDC. So I don't know how much

(18:47):
that's going to move the needle,but maybe it points back to what they're
seeing in San Francisco and why LondonReed's starting to push back a little bit
now well, and as we speakright now, they're trying to kill the
mayor of Seattle. Right now,there's roughly one hundred and forty people out
in front of his house with pitchforksand fire. Really yeah, because he's

(19:08):
decided to fund the police. Sothey're going to try so again. This
is this is a national thing that'shappening where the liberal city mayors, Liberal
national figures are saying, we've we'vegone too far. The genie's out of
the bottom of the toothpaste his wayout of the two going to suck it

(19:29):
back up. Brother, That's apicture that both Snerdley just posted of a
whole bunch of people trying to killthe mayor out in front of his house.
So again, Portland's on fire,Seattle's on fire, LA's on fire,
San Francisco's on fire, Washington,DC, Chicago, Baltimore, every
May and by the way, Chicago. We're looking forward to the big Democrat

(19:49):
convention there this year, and theyand the guy who runs Chicago can't happen.
He says, can't have it.What did he to say? We
can't have the Democrat National Convention inChicago because there's no room. There's too
many immigrants there, there's no room. In the end, they're filling up

(20:10):
the auditoriums with homeless migrants. Sountil Joe Biden can figure out how to
sweep the damn streets of Chicago,we can't have you here for the big
convention. Sir, Wow, Ihad not heard that. Yeah, this
is a total disaster for the Democratsand again part of the master plan to
overthrow the country. They're just alittle off on their timing. They had

(20:33):
figured twenty twenty twenty twenty two wouldbe the last election. Twenty twenty be
the last presidential election. Now we'rescrewed because we have to have a twenty
twenty four election and everybody hates us. All right, So when the state
of South Carolina yesterday where the federaljudge come down with a ruling. Before
we jump into that, I justwant to mention there's a Rasmussen poll out

(20:56):
today. I don't have it infront of me. I remember that the
ultimate result was fifty three percent.I think it was like thirty and twenty
three. Thirty percent say it's verylikely, twenty three say that it's somewhat
likely that the next presidential election willbe rigged. Oh yes, that poll

(21:18):
was so more than half of Americabelieves that the next election is being the
strings are being pulled by somebody else. I don't know if that's a way
of dissuading people from getting to thepolls. I you know, look,
I'm a big fan of Even ifyou think that there's somebody rigging the election,
go go throw your vote into thehat, make it hard for them

(21:41):
to cheat, make them, makethem burn a lot of ballots to get
rid of my stuff. Yeah.I was just talking to a staunch conservative
in South Carolina, must have beenabout a week ago now, and she
was talking about the twenty twenty electionand how when she went to vote,
she was turned away because she hadalready voted. Oez Oh. Yeah,
she has spent South Carolina. Uhhuh wow at the precinct where I vote.

(22:07):
Yikes. And she spent the nextfour and a half hours making sure
her provisional ballot was actually going tobe counted, okay, And she said
it was amazing. And she's beenpolitically involved, I'll put it that way
at a state level for at leasttwo decades. She said, I was

(22:30):
amazed at how slow the process wasto actually have my provisional ballot, the
one where I'm standing presenting myself inperson with every identification you could possibly ask
for it, because she took theentire folder with her to prove that she
is who she is. And shesaid, to go through that process to
actually have my provisional ballot taken,and my other previously cast ballot, which

(22:55):
was absentee, and she said,I've never voted absentee and never would and
that's something we need to talk aboutagain and as we get closer to the
election. But she said the processwas so incredibly slow and in the state
of South Carolina was embarrassed by it. Wow. Well, again, the
election probably an all likelihood will havenothing to do with as far as the

(23:22):
presidency will have very little to dowith South Carolina. That will overwhelmingly go
to whoever the GOP nominee is.And You're right. And one of the
reasons I brought it up is becauseyou would think that with the fact that
South Carolina is so far past themargin, that those kind of shit out
against what me going on. Butthey are, well, they will go
on. For like if you livein the city of Columbia. Clearly the

(23:47):
Democrat Party, the corrupt parties Ilike to call them, or the party
of death. They like to manipulatethings to hang on to power, and
they are in power in Columbia.The Democrats own Columbia. Now we somehow,
I mean, I don't want toget too far out of my lane
here, I'll just say that Ihad heard rumors that the former Democrat nominee.

(24:11):
I probably shouldn't even say that therewas a lot of surprise that Mayor
Rickman won. Let's just put itthat way, because that was not supposed
to happen. Oh, I wastotally shot. I'm still shot by it.
Well so were the Democrats because theypaid for a different outcome. How
did that happen? They they hadthought that they had assured themselves a victory

(24:33):
there, and then when rick Hemanwon, they were what which goes back
to what the ultimate point was whenthe person I was talking to, is
that our Republican turnout has to beso overwhelming that it's undeniable. And even
against all efforts, you broke theirback in their efforts to keep the true

(24:56):
vote or the the will of thepeople from being expressed. I also just
want to point out I just reada quick article in Slate magazine. Slate
magazine is a far left rag,and Slate magazine has an interesting theory here
about about your girlfriend. What's righthim? Again? Uh? That that

(25:19):
that that that that that Lafonza FonzaButler, lafons A Butler is maybe another
way to help bring down the Constitution. According to the Slate magazine. Slate
magazine says that they are exploiting loopholesin the Constitution. And while most legal

(25:44):
scholars believe that you must be aresident of the state, that is not
explicitly said in the Constitution, onlythat you were elected by that state.
So they're now pushing that perhaps youdon't have to be an American citizen,
Perhaps she wouldn't even have to haveever been in America. That perhaps in
the future we could have a senatorfrom Guam or from maybe a non US

(26:10):
territory like I don't know, throwingSoviet Union, China, great senator from
Illinois. I thought they'd probably abunch of hoops to make sure that she
could do what is it a trailerpark? She owns some kind of residential
air of who's an investment she has? Lafonza, No, Lafonso owns nothing

(26:30):
in California. I thought she ownedlike some kind of a residential investment.
She lived there, She lived there, and then she sold off everything that
she owns and she moved to Marylandand that's where she's lived for the last
eighteen months. Now they're saying shecould clean it up this. Think about
how easy this would be according tothis news or this article in Slate magazine.

(26:52):
She could. The snag, ofcourse, is that the inhabitant requirement
understanding it requires history, blah blahblah. She could satisfy this if she
was to just make a quick tripfrom Silver Spring back to California in order
to reregister to vote in that state, because she's not even registered to vote
there. She could reregister in thatstate and then move back to DC to

(27:15):
take on the Senate duty. Thatwould but it says she's not going to
do that. Huh, they don'twant her to do that. Don't clear
it up. Let's make it athing interesting. So this person doesn't even
live here, they're not registered here, they don't pay bills here, they
have nothing to do with our state, yet they represent us. These people

(27:36):
are so diabolical, that is veryAnd I haven't heard Lawrence Tribe speak of
this, and you know, wheneverhe speaks, always stop and listen.
That's where I learned that Donald Trumpcould never be president again because of the
fourteenth of Medmoth. He'll explain itto you. It's they can take anything
and twist it. And that kindof leads us to our South Carolina story

(27:57):
that I thought did a job ofexplaining this morning that these people, you
know, have always tried to separatechurch from state, and they've used it
against America, they've used it againstthe states, they've used it against private
citizens. They act as if youcan't have any religion, and we've had
a big victory. Now. Yeah, I believe in the Democrat world,

(28:19):
the constitutional courses that are taught beginsin Constitution one oh one. It helps
you twist and manipulate the separation ofchurch and state. And that's the beginning
of understanding how a Democrat thinks.When plainly all of us and anybody listening
to this podcast are even the onesthat listening to it that don't agree with
it, understand exactly why it waswritten like that and the history of why

(28:44):
it was written like that, thenplainly that's not what the spirit of the
law is. That's not what thewording of the law is, and that's
not what the intent of the lawis. So how can you get there?
Because you keep repeating bullok over andover and over again until you finally
at people who agree with the factthat you're right. You can't have the
state establishing a religion. No,you can't have the state protecting religion.

(29:07):
No, you can't even have religionif you're a member of the state.
Huh. Yeah. I mean basically, there's another group out there called Freedom
from Religion, and Freedom from Religionis the one that brings just about any
lawsuit that you can imagine when itcomes to any that's the Ronald Reagan Juniors.

(29:30):
Yeah, the Freedom from Religion,and their concept is that every American
should have the right to live theirlives not being impeded by anybody else's religious
liberties. I guess that's maybe alittle bit of an overstatement, but that's
basically it. Because if I practicemy religious faith in a way that it

(29:52):
somehow is even brought to your attention, then that makes you uncomfortable, and
so I am in the wrong.But if if your agnostic atheist behavior impedes
on my religious beliefs, then that'sokay. So the religious people are at

(30:14):
default wrong and the agnostics and theatheists are correct default correct. That's not
what the founders wrote that they wrotein the Constitution a way of protecting people
from having a state run religion.In other words, the United States of
America could not say, like aking would we are now all Episcopals or

(30:41):
we're all Baptists. That is theofficial state religion of America is the Baptist
religion, and it will be adheredto and you don't have to follow it
per se, but that's how allof the things are going to be practiced.
And if you're not a Baptist,I'd hate to be you. Yeah,
And if you don't follow the thosedoctrines, then you will be arrested.

(31:02):
Yeah, that's what they were tryingto protect us from, because that
was the way governments were set upand run, you know, back pre
seventeen seventy six Europe. And Ithink I think there's probably still some countries
even today that are running themselves asyou must believe in this religion in order

(31:22):
to be a part of our governmentand so on and so forth. Do
you think the Iranians feel like that? Pretty sure? That interesting. A
lot of the Middle Eastern countries havethat kind of government rule. But we're
not doing that here. But itdoesn't mean that the people in the government
and the government itself can't have waysof practicing faith. And so when you

(31:47):
look at what happened here, injust I guess the last week or so.
A federal judge ruled on September twentyninth, what is that three days
ago? Four days ago? TheSouth Carolina's work with an evangelical Christian foster
carry agency that rejected applications from potentialparents who did not share their faith does
not violate the constitutional right against theestablishment of a religion. So the State

(32:12):
of South Carolina can continue to supporta Christian based adoption agency, foster agency
that says, we're not going towork with non Christians. I mean,
they take it a step further.They're not going to work with like certain
segments of the they don't want towork with Catholics, they don't want to
work with what's called the Unitarian Churchmeaning all roads lead to Heaven type of

(32:37):
thing, everybody ends up there.They're not going to work with those people.
And so if you're not a Christianwho believes that what they believe,
then they're not going to allow youto adopt the child out of there,
which I can see where you wouldthink you had a great lawsuit at that
point. Wait a second, thestate of South Carolina is supporting an agency

(32:59):
that says, I must be aChristian in order to get that kid.
But according to the federal government here, yeah, that's okay, go to
a different agency, go to adifferent agency. It's not the only agency
on this block. It's not it'snot owned by the state. It's not

(33:19):
a uh you know, like toyour point of it being multiple agencies.
It's also not prohibiting other agencies fromopening. So if you wanted to open
the agnostic atheist only uh foster agency, you could do that. And you
could say, look, you cometo us and you say, I'm a
heterosexual Christian couple. We're only goingto We're only going to put children in

(33:45):
the care of people who believe they'rein the wrong gender. That's the only
kids that that's the only way youcan get a kid. You could open
that agency, that's right. Youcould pull the Woody what was his name?
Would he? What do you do? Would he Harrelson? What do
you know? Previous previous to WoodyHarrelson? Yeah, not that previous actually,

(34:13):
I guess born about the same time. You know, the weird New
Yorker who had a relationship, No, the weird New Yorker who had a
relationship Woody Allen would he Allen,you could pull the Woody Allen. Woody
Allen, who I think was apretty funny guy. Is that you know,
I'm agnostic. My wife is atheist. We always argued about what church
not to bring the children up himso and maybe you're having that argument.

(34:36):
I don't know, but it wouldn'twork. It was pretty interesting that we
just went through how many Woodies doI know? I'm surprised I went four
deep. I don't know where thatlot. Just remember him, I should
remember hearing him say that, andI busted out laughing. I said,
that is classic. I love thisguy. And then you I carew to
learn that. No, I don'tknow anyway. So it was a big
day for the state of South Carolina. Henritman Master is very excited about it.

(34:58):
A lot of people to stay toSouth Carol excited about its being personally
sued in this lawsuit as well.Right, so, he says, these
victories directly benefit countless children by furtherensuring that faith faith based organizations will not
be forced to abandon their beliefs tohelp provide critical services to the state's youth.
And I think that it's not onlyjust great news for the state of
South Carolina. I think this isgreat news for the whole country totally.

(35:22):
Does this Does it say if they'regoing to continue to fight this to the
Supreme Court? You know they are? Or is it over? Oh it's
not over. It's not nothing's over. Do we say it's over? Nothing
is over? All? Right?Listen, it is a little past our
timeline on our podcast today. Thankyou for putting up again with the fact

(35:42):
that my voice still is kind ofweird and we're still trying to get over
this whatever this was, South Carolina, wash your hands. So are we
saying this is over? Helps?I got Now we have to go back
and lay down. I'm always I'mall tucked out over here. Geez all
right, listen, have yourself agreat two today as we get ready for

(36:04):
I'm well again. I don't knowif it's because I'm coming off of my
medication or if my fact of mybrain is starting a short wave over here
means I need to go take somemore medication. But I want to go
take some more. See if thatstraightens me out? See Yah,