10 26 24 The Jonathon and Kelly Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, Now
I have worked.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I've now worked for fifteen minutes more they come.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Out, Kelly Nash and.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I could do this on day. I wouldn't mind this show.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I gotta be honest with you. I'd kind of like
to work at McDonalds every now and then. You get
all the fries you can eat. Well, I don't know
if that's true when you're under the direct supervision of
your management.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, he was having a good time. I mean he
was also not charging. Yeah, I mean, so he doesn't
have to worry about giving you change or whatever. He
just hands out the bag and says compliments.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, I love. Part of the outrage was that McDonald's
wasn't even open.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It was a photo up huh.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh during a campaign. What are you kid me? Or
am we getting into more of that? Well maybe not.
Segment three swapped off. We got some bigger fish to fry, though,
I would like a filey of fish, all right, So
that'll be coming up also in segment two today you're
going to hear from Ellen Weaver, our superintendent of education. Yes,
we had several things to share with you, including report

(01:00):
card status on our schools that'll be coming up. And
we have a lawsuit launched in South Carolina we'll deal
with in segment four. Got it, Well, we got a
couple of lawsuits to deal with, we can open up
with this one. Okay, So Artificial intelligence in South Carolina
tv AD that is the headline popped up, primarily in

(01:20):
the Charleston area because we're talking about the solicitor for
the ninth Circuit that will be Scarlett Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, and the thing about this is it's not just
a TV ad, as you mentioned, it's a campaign ad,
and so on the face of things though it doesn't
matter because there's no laws against it. So I don't
know if this is a call for us to change
because would you say, nineteen states already have a law
against using any AI.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's what I read earlier today. Remember we record this
program on Friday. This will be the twenty fifth for
Saturday broadcast of the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'll point out that she doesn't do anything which I
would say oral in the ad, because all they did
was they used the AI to read his emails that
he wrote sounding like him. If they had just not
that anybody even knows what this guy sounds like. All right,
David Osborne's name? I mean, how would how would anybody
know who David Osborne is. He's running for solicitor, it's

(02:17):
not a very high profile position.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
This was.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't know. Is this a mistake to have used
the AI Maybe maybe a little miss cue.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
They're calling for the sled investigation primarily having to do
with the content of the emails that were in the
AI commercial then supposedly voiced by the challenger Democrat David Osborne.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, he wrote emails to this woman who's the current solicitor,
and she just has AI read them back in the commercial,
and the name of the commercial is in his own words,
and she's basically showing what he's telling you publicly is
not what he's saying in his emails. He's a different guy,
a hypocrite. Yeah, that's an old campaign strategy, So nothing

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new here. The only thing that's different is they used AI.
And as they pointed out, there wouldn't be a problem
if they had just hired Jonathan Rush to read the
emails as an actor and nobody would even know. Probably not,
But the guy did say that he was surprised when
he heard the commercial because he said, I don't remember
reading that. That does sound like.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Me pretty damn good endorsement of AI if you can
get away with it, and in this state you can
because we don't have a law against it, that's right.
But there is outrage because we and we knew this
was going to pop up, because we've already had AI
in a couple of different states, or people accusing people
using AI and the like. But they are calling for
a sled investigation having to do with the release of
the information out of the emails, which, if it's it's

(03:45):
going to be a public records are just that public. Yeah,
the documents contained can no privileged information, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But you know we are at least you know this
is going to come to a head here in South Carolina.
Maybe it's good we have it now, so we go
in and put some laws on the books here before
we get it to our next big election season.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I do laugh at Democrats and their logic usually, and
Crystal Spain is typical of a Democrat, and so in
her letter to Mark Keel, she wrote, while Solicitor Wilson
would have access to those emails I'll insert because they
were sent to her. The only way she would be
allowed to use them for political purposes is to request

(04:25):
them through an open records request. And Wilson responds to
that Democrats make no sense. Public records are what they imply.
They're open to the public already. Their position is that
these public records, which are available for anybody in the
public to see at any time, are only accessible with it,

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or they are only accessible to everybody except me. That's
the way Democrats look at things. They got these bizarre loopholes.
It's a public record, yeah, but you can't use it.
So yeah. I think the bigger picture is the AI thing.
It is concerning again, not how they were used in
this campaign ad, but the idea that they can in

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the not too distant future. I've the thing that they
did with Trump, because we started the segment off with
Trump and the McDonald's appearance. We saw some AI renditions
of things going horribly wrong for Donald Trump at that
event where the fries exploded or whatever and he falls
out of the window, and you can tell that that

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is not real. But that's only about a year into this.
In the next year or two at the rate they're
making improvements, you won't be able to tell the difference.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
You know. It guess sounds to the frustration level I
think that some people have. And maybe I'm just being
nitpicky here, but how many years ago was it when
we first saw the AI offering on video of the
guy playing the part of Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That was like three years ago? And what he said,
the key to that was you have to actually look
like the person you're trying to do, like he looks
like Tom Cruise, and you have to mimic the movements
of Tom Cruise. So he spent weeks, months, years, whatever
trying to get those smiles down and the little the
way he jumps up and down and that sort of stuff.

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So that's why it was so believable, because he tried.
He then showed you what it looked like when with
his friend with blonde here did it. It looks nothing
at all like Tom Cruise, even when they put the
Tom Cruise face on it.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Gotcha. But you know, it's kind of like when we
first heard that, we well, when we started doing banking
online and it was like three years later we found
we found out that somebody had actually hacked the dr
and all our information was out there. It just seems
like you have to drag our governmental bodies into a
conversation after there's a crisis, which is why this is

(06:45):
I said, it is probably good we deal with this
now because we need to get laws in place to
protect persons running for office against misrepresentation of them with
their words. So I guess it's a good thing. And
we got nineteen states. Typically we come in whenever we
got like twenty twenty five states ahead of us, so
we should be ready to write some laws here to
protect our candidates. And see what our South Carolina Election

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Commission has to say about that.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
It'll be interesting which direction they go in, because even
in the story it says nineteen states have passed laws
banning the use of AI and elections or requiring a
minimum public disclosure of the campaign materials were generated by AI.
So could you much like any kind of car commercial

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or whatever where the disclosure is kind of read as
a you know, the following commercial has created using the
help with the help of artificial intelligence, dead air, right,
and then the commercial starts and it's like whomever Barack Obama,
but it is Barack Obama. You know, it's not some
guy who sounds like Barack Obama. It is Barack Obama

(07:54):
saying I've had it with Kamala and time to throw
her aside. She's right, we got to turn the pay
you know. I was like, oh my gosh, did Barack
Obama really say that?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's great? Who knows how We're gonna have it, and
we will get a template from one of the other states.
So sorry, put a lock down on this so we
can get a good one the first time. And I
have to go revisit this again. One more lawsuits, because
lord knows, I lost count of how many lawsuits we
currently have going on with the twenty twenty four election.
It's several hundred. But wait, in just a second, let's
talk about South Carolina's classroom and report cards, in particular,

(08:28):
when we speak with our Superintendent of Education, Ellen.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Weaver, the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
What else do we know about this population eighteenth through
twenty four?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
They are stupid, Kelly Nash, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I know this is a controversial topic for many
of us.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I love gen Z.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The Jonathan and Kelly SHOWBOC.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Even after a complete high school education. They are stupid.
That's why we put them in dormitories. All right, we'll
get into some more keywords. Kamala Harris coming up here
in segment three. But speaking of education, Kelly Nash, Welcome
on the phone, our Superintendent of Education, ELM. Weaver. Good
to have you here.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Good morning friends, How you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Doing living the dreams? And thank you for making time
for us.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
You know, every time but a parent sees a child
coming home from school with a report card, it's more
than just a report card on that student. For persons
like yourself, it's a report card on the state. Talk
to us about how are we doing statewide?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, well, we had our report card release and you know,
our overall ratings held pretty steady, but we did see
improvement in what I consider to be the most important
factor of the several factors on the report card, which
is academic growth. Our number one business in education is

(09:47):
making sure that every child is getting equipped with the
skills that they need to be successful in life. And
so was hugely encouraged by that. And one of the
things that I really wanted to highlight was the work
that we have been doing as an agency in partnership
with what we call the Hope Network. HOPE stands for
helping our pupils Excel, and these are some of the

(10:08):
districts in the state that are struggling most with academic performance.
We saw strong across the board growth both in proficiency
and in closing achievement gaps at our Hope Network schools
and districts. And this, to me is proof positive of
what I've said all along, which is that every child

(10:29):
can learn when we put them in a classroom with
a teacher who is equipped with the tools and high
quality materials that that teacher needs to be successful. We're
seeing it happen in some of our poorest communities. We
rolled out the report cards actually at a school down
in Greenwood fifty called Pinecrest Elementary School. And five years

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ago Pinecrest Elementary School was at the very bottom performance
level unsatisfactory. This year they are not only excellent, they
are the second highest elementary school academically in the entire
state of South Carolina. And they have eighty seven percent poverty.
And so it just proves, you know, poverty is a challenge,

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but it's not an excuse. These kids are as smart
and as driven and as capable as students anywhere when
we as adults have a clear vision and align resources
to support their education. So I'm excited we're on the
right trajectory and we only are going to go up
from here.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
We're talking with South Carolina Superintendent of Education Ellen Weaver.
In last month, you announced that there was a new
partnership with Prager, you and the state of South Carolina,
and in that I guess you made the comment and
I'm just reading this from the paper now, our higher
education colleges are way more focused on woke politics, sadly,
than on giving our teachers those foundational skills that they

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need to have to become a good teacher, and that
has now set off a firestorm from it seems like
every university has somebody who wants to respond to that.
What are your thoughts on what they're saying back to you.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I tend to think sometimes there's a lot of wisdom
in those old country sayings, and in this case it
hit dogs and holler right. So I think it's I
think it's kind of kind of hard hard to argue. Seriously,
when you look at universities across not just South Carolina,
but the country and I'm making a general statement here

(12:25):
right there are certainly universities and colleges that are doing
a fantastic job, but I think that the overall direction
and higher education for decades now has been much more
towards what we would consider to be woke, left leaning
ideologies and in education, I think that has resulted in
us taking our eye off the actual ball, which in

(12:48):
my estimation and what I said in that in that interview,
I was talking in the context of literacy. For decades now,
are institutions of higher education, by and large, not all
of them, but many of them have not been equipping
teachers with the skills that they need to teach reading
according to what brain science tells us work, which is phonics.

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And so I'm thankful now that they are seeing the light,
They're turning the corner. We here in South Carolina are
taking steps to ensure that they are giving teachers those
basic skills and their education preparation programs. But you know,
I think that it's a lot of tempest in a teapot. Honestly,
the outrage quote unquote over the Praeger You partnership. I

(13:32):
think that you know, most South Carolinians would not find
it controversial to think that we are going to platform
resources that teach traditional understanding of American history in our schools,
and resources that align with where the vast majority of
South Carolinians are in their understanding of America's past in
America's future. So I'm excited about the partnership. We're certainly

(13:55):
working here at the department to vet the resources that
prag Or has given us, and we continue to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I saw I think it was in the state newspaper.
The headline said Richland won says it will train staff
on fiscal caution, but denies that it mismanaged thirty one
million dollars. So you had called them out, and I
think even your predecessor had called them out for the
moving forward with the thirty one million dollars to build

(14:24):
what ultimately was established as not a school. And you said,
you can't spend your you've mismanaged thirty one million dollars.
And they're saying, no, we didn't. Is that I mean,
I'm just flabbergasted that they can actually say we didn't
when it's not a school.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, and you know, so they have submitted their response
to our fiscal cautioned designation, and our finance team is
carefully reviewing that right now. So I don't want to
speak out of turn or get ahead of myself here,
but what I will say to your point is just
that to try to paper over the significant findings in

(15:06):
the Inspector General's report and say that, well, he didn't
say anything illegal was done, and so you know, so
there's nothing to see here. That's a pretty pretty low
bar to have to clear. In my opinion, we owe
tax payers and students a much higher fiduciary obligation than that,
and so our team is going to be very carefully
reviewing that in response, and you can expect us to

(15:27):
respond to that here in the near future.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
They had an opportunity with another program with podcasts that
do call CEOs you should know, And I was speaking
with the CEO of Key on the group in Charleston,
and he was talking about how they, like a lot
of corporations, are working now with more and more school
districts reaching into the schools and help not only show
students different career tracks, but also help identify some of

(15:51):
those students. Are you seeing more and more of that
happening all across the state, or is that pretty much isolated,
or is that handled on a district level.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Typically that is handled at the district level. But that
is something that we actually have taken on as one
of our strategic pillars of community engagement because we not
only need our businesses to help our students understand the
relevance of what they're learning in the classroom to their
future career pathway, but we also just need adults who

(16:21):
are living successful lives to come in and spend their
time mentoring and encouraging our students. There are students, many
who come from very difficult situations, who may not have
that steady presence in their life, and community members can
help step up and meet that. And so we actually
hear the department are working with what we call Project

(16:42):
Raise your Hand, trying to connect the dots between the
needs in districts and schools with the very willing, I think,
set of helping hands that we have out here in
our community, whether that be our business community, our civic community,
our faith community. We all know that education is the
foundation of our shared future and that requires all of

(17:05):
us to step up and invest our time. So we
actually are looking to stand up a website in the
next month or two that we'll be able to direct
your listeners to when it is ready for them to
see how they can help meet needs here in schools
in the local area here in the Midlands, because I
think that ultimately is how we address the challenges that

(17:28):
not only that our students are facing, but that our
teachers are facing. Our teachers need support too. I mean,
we've asked our teachers to be everything to everybody and
they simply can't be. We need to let teachers do
their job, and we as a community need to rally
around the students and their families. And so I'm really
excited to hear that that is happening in Charleston. I
know what's happening in many other areas too, and we
want to continue to facilitate and grow that here in

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South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
You can hear a complete conversation and interview with Ellen
Weaver on our podcast.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, just look for the Rash Thought podcast. It's on
the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Swamp Talk coming up next, the Jonathan and Kelly Show,
Jonathan Rush.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
We know what Donald Trump wants.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
He wants unchecked power.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Kelly Nash, do you run this country as a dictator
to four years. He was in absolutely not no wars.
The economy was absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
He wasn't a dictator.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Then the Jonathan and Kelly Show, how are you going
to question the words of John Kelly? He's nonpartisan general.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
How long has she been running for president now, like
since July and we still don't really have an answer
from her as to what you're gonna do as president?
What would be different between you and Joe Biden? No
real answers. It was going to be where the joyful presidency,
we're making joy grade again or whatever, but that kind

(18:49):
of died down.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now we're already on the fifth campaign slogan redo, country
of a Party.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
The whole thing is really about Donald Trump is a
horrific human being. That's the campaign.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
He's Hitler.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's Hitler. I saw where some Holocaust survivor is denouncing
Kamala Harris for comparing anyone to Hitler. This guy knew
Hitler because he was in a concentration camp, and he
was like, nobody is like Hitler, and you shouldn't be
comparing the two. But you know, in the big picture

(19:23):
of things, if you're complaining about your opponent, you're really
not in a good position. And Kamala Harris and the
Democrats have not been able to come up with anything
other than we're going to steal Donald Trump's ideas and
make them our own.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Lifts.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, no tax on tips, build that wall, drill baby, drill,
whatever he says, we say. And that's really not a
winning strategy. And I think that we're seeing the polls
show that today as we record this, it's in the
morning today. Donald Trumps supposed to do the Joe Rogan podcast.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
This is Friday, the twenty fifth of October.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, so sometime this afternoon he'll do Joe Rogan podcast.
Kamala Harrison at the same time is going to be
doing a rally for reproductive rights in Houston.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now that is finally we get to pull out the plank.
We'd like to pull out the state of Texas. Apparently
they think that's going to move the needle for him.
And I want to go back for a second too.
When you can't make your own point as to why
you should be elected, give us one policy. How damning
was it after the CNN Anderson Cooper town hall meeting

(20:28):
that the immediate review from the person's on the set
at CNN Atlanta were she really was supposed to close
the deal and she really didn't do it. All she
talked about was how much she dislikes and points out
that she's not Donald Trump. When CNN can help you
and Anderson Cooper, I thought many people thought he was

(20:48):
asking really good follow up questions. I thought he was
just trying to give her chance after chance after chance
to come up with something. But it just wasn't going
to click for her. She could not come up with
a way to answer a question that was either condemning,
point to the hypocrisy, or turn the page from what
to what? Kamala, turn the page from what to what exactly?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And that is an answer that they needed to have
the day one. You hit the ground running with that.
That's so basic and they would.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Be glad to go along with. I'm sure CNN to
a large degary for the most part, mss's NBC. Certainly
it would help you write the question if you had
an answer, give us the answer you have so we
can write a question. I know CBS would do it.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
They should have asked, CBS, provide us an answer you
think would work. What do you think they want to
hear because I'm not above saying anything. Just tell me
what they want to hear. I'll say it.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And we discussed earlier in this program. We'll just do
an AI interview. Yeah, and now we're going to hear
some really straight talk out of the Joe Rugan podcast. Now,
are we going to get the true answer from Donald
Trump today? Are we going to be able to get
a discernible answer? Is he talking about the enemy within
having to do with the persons who have been trying
to persecute and prosecute him out of the inner circle

(22:02):
of DC's most powerful beltweight club, or is it in
fact the persons that have been come across the border. Well,
MSNBC will tell you he's not worried about the immigrants,
although they didn't go on to describe him saying that
America has nothing but a trash can.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's becoming a trash cans and it is because the
people that are flooding it are criminals, and it's where
other countries are sending some of their worst people to
get them out of their country. So I don't think
that that's like shouldn't be controversial anymore. That's not saying
that every person who's illegally crossed the border is a

(22:36):
criminal to the extent that some of them are. It's
just saying that there are moves from countries, specifically Venezuela,
where they're sending Cuba did it years ago.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I was about to say, I wish there were something
in history we could point to to say, this is
what has happened prior. Why would we not believe it's
happening again.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yes, and that shouldn't even be a controversial position. But
because Democrats want to lead with their hearts, they're, oh,
my gosh, you're offending everybody, and no, look that we
know what's happening violent. By the way, I love the
fact that after Donald Trump got fact checked with the
violent crime is on the rise and they're like, well, actually, sir, no,

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it's not. Then the FBI had to redo their numbers
and admit Donald Trump was right. Yes, so violent crime
is on the rise in America, and it's on the
rise specifically because of the migrants who have come here.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
But that's not on David Muir. He's the most trusted
voice in America.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Kelly, he was given bad information, this.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Information from the federal government. Yes, God, what are you
saying out, wow, I know now it was today the
day because I got to go back to my commalat
schedule is today to day Friday the twenty fifth is
today Today. She's going to go lay the wreath on
the door of the Capitol and we're going to have
the January sixth. What it's said, the memorial service or
what are we doing here when democracy almost died? So

(23:57):
it's nearly a memorial.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
There was I guess a memorial of some kind put
up at the Capitol. I'm just going to go and
read it right here. It's describe. Here's the headline. I
love this turd. Yes, I said the word turd. Turd
shaped monument installed honoring the January sixth mobbed at the

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National Mall, A sarcastic statue has been dedicated to the insurrectionist.
Unveiled in front of the Capitol, the piece features a
bronze shaped pile of feces atop a desk with California Rep.
Nancy Pelosi's name above a short paragraph explaining the monument.
This memorial honors the brave men and women who broke
into the United States Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty

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one to loot, urinate, and defecate throughout these hallowed halls
in order to overturn a free election. And then it
goes on to say President Trump celebrates these heroes of
January sixth as unbelievable patriots and warriors. The plot continues
that the structure stands as a testament to their daring,
sacrifice and lasting legacy. I'm wondering, like, does it? I

(25:10):
can't say, it says a group named Civic Crafting received
approval from the National Park Service to put that statue up.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Oh, I'm wondering.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did the National Park Service know what it was going
to say? Would they allow a pro Republican sarcastic thing
being put up, you know, to mock Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris. What I mean is this? And by the way,
is this the October surprise? Because so far the October
surprise has been Trump is Hitler and Mussolini. He's a fascist,

(25:45):
He's going to shred the constitution. Nobody's believing any of that.
So now we're going back to January sixth. Pretty soon
we're going to be going back to Egene Carrol in
the nineties.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, we get another girl now it's coming forward with
something that happened in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
In the nineties, yea, it was nineteen ninety three, she says.
I think it was ninety three she was allegedly assaulted
by Donald Trump or groped, we'll say growth.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes. Now she's non political as well. Even though she
attended I think two of the past DNC conferences.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
She apparently, according to the stories we've read, didn't tell
anybody about that groping til two thousand and six. So
it was thirteen years later that she first brings it
up to anybody. And now two thousand and six to
twenty twenty four, another eighteen years has now passed, and

(26:35):
today is the right time. Now, now my story can
be unveiled. It's not for political purposes. No, why would
you say that, because it's two weeks before an election.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And that's a good question about that they know what
the actual display was going to be. I would assume
that they would ask what it was going to be,
But I don't know that for sure, So I don't know,
but you know you would, Yeah, I thought when I
saw it, this was going to be the podium, the
altar was what it looks like it looks like an altar,
But I thought it was gonna be the podium from
which Kamala would speak today behind a pile of crap.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, I mean, could we get one with a monument
of Kamala with crap coming out of her mouth? That's
pretty much what she's talking.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
You know, it's amazing as you go back and you
start looking at we did unveil and we got the
Morning Joe. This week's been hysterical with the Hitler and
the correlation, the authoritarian worship, Mussolini and the others that
you mentioned. But it seems like that after hearing all
of the arguments, whether you take the January sixth or
it's the economy issue now, because we get all these

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economists coming out talking about how Trump's plan is going
to crater. Barack Obama talked the other night about how
Donald Trump didn't have a gary economy. He was just
using mind so he took full credit for that. It
just seems like as we get these House members, congressman,
talking heads, economists, and all these persons who stand on
their credibility to do interviews, particularly on MSNBC and sometimes

(28:06):
of Neil Cavudo where he would go James Cliburn twenty
minutes to go ahead and make his point. I think
Cavudo just books him and then goes to the bathroom
or something. But it just seems like the whole thing
to me is an essay contest. We're trying to figure
out who can come up with the official reason and
justification that you cannot vote for Donald Trump under any circumstances.
And these are the six or seven different categories of

(28:28):
which you compete when you come on MSNBC in particular
and you make your stance, maybe on Alex Wagner and
Chris Murphy did a great job the other night spending
wherever he was about why you'd be misogynistic and not
vote for a woman. But it seems like this is
an essay contest who can come up with the very
best because we've got to find something like spaghetti that'll

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stick to the wall, and the winner of that competition
is going to get some high ranking position inside the
Kamala Harris administration.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
The thing that I'm still baffled about as we record
this on October two is there are apparently up to
fifteen percent of American voters who are planning to vote
who don't know who they're going to vote for. Yes,
And for the life of me, I cannot figure out

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what what are you waiting to hear at this point?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
What is it but the deal she's put to close
the deal with see it.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
In Kamala says, you're gonna get pretty much. You're gonna
get more of the same, the stuff you liked with
the Joe Biden policies. You're gonna get all of that,
but you're gonna get the flare of a young female
And so that's even better.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Her life experience is that she brings to the Joval office.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, the difference is I'm not Joe Biden. So there's that.
So that's one avenue. The other is Trump says, I
gave you four years other than when COVID came in
and through the whole world off its axis. Other than that,
did you like what you had? Because that's what I
want to give you more of. And I'm going to
do a better job at this time because I'm going

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to understand better how to hire people for the cabinet positions,
so on and so forth. So and I'm not saying
that one answers well, I mean, for me, obviously one
answer is right and the other one's wrong. But how
do you not have a decision yet? There's what could
Donald Trump say to make you vote for him or
Kamala Harris say to make you vote for her at
this moment?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
And certainly you and I are historians, and as we
mentioned a few minutes ago, with the way that Cuba
was dumping all their prisons of floating them across it
to Florida Shore, if there were only an opportunity for
us to go back in a window of time and
compare what would have been like under Trump versus what
it was like under the Biden Harris administration, if we
could just compare those two, if they're only an opportunity

(30:44):
for us to live like in a parallel universe, nearly Kelly.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, I like, look, if I'm a strategist or somebody
who's trying to spin things, which a lot of politicians are,
I get what they're saying. It's the same thing that
Barack Obama successfully ran on. Literally four and a half
years after George Bush left office. He was saying, we're
still cleaning up the Bush mess. That takes time. So
for four years you would hear him every time there

(31:07):
was a problem. H you've got George Bush, random country
on the ground, public us ran it off, the Guardbrail
put in the back in place. So you had that.
Now you've got the same thing going on with the
Biden people saying Trump left us in a mess, a mess,
no joke, folks, it's horrible on it.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And now we're back to the Now we're back to
the display of the horsemen. We're on top of the podium. Yes, yes,
so we circle back around. Now we can wrap it
up and talk about, Oh, we got one more issue
to discussed with you coming up in a second. South Carolina.
We could have been disenfranchising persons, we were suppressing, oppressing
the vote. Kelly, dont like you're innocent.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Us every five or six generations there we reach an
inflection point in the American history.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
We gotta like him up.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Politically.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Document the Jonathan and Kelly Show that a hop two
with the DOJ because you got less than a week now,
a little more than a week to lock him up
politically politically. Hey, before we wrap it up and get
out of here, we had a little dust up this
week we record this on Fridays. We mentioned that again
because this is a changing story. It's developing even as

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we speak.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Kelly, you know, is it? It just seems like right
now it's supposed to be. The Democrats want to make
it something and the ACLU wants to make it something.
They have made it a lawsuit. But according to the story,
South Carolina DMV and the South Carolina Election Commission really
not responding. And basically what happened here, Jonathan was back

(32:46):
when the motor voter law was passed in nineteen ninety five,
we complied like all other states because Bill Clinton demanded
that would make it fair and easy for us to
registered to vote. When you get your license, why shouldn't
that enable you to vote? To funny because now you don't.
They don't want you to have a license to vote.
So it's a wow, the times have changed since Bill Clinton.

(33:06):
But anyway, so in South Carolina, if you were registering
to vote, excuse me, registering to get a license, but
you were not old enough to vote, but you would
be eighteen before the election, you click a thing on
a box that would have allowed you to then go
ahead and fill out the paperwork. Anyway, that worked until

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we started switching over to computers in like two thousand
and two, so it worked like six seven years. Then
apparently it didn't work and nobody noticed. So for twenty
one twenty two years, roughly nobody has complained that they
said that they would be old enough to vote and

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they didn't get registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I'm sure in the aftermath of Taylor swift tweet, you
probably had at least one seventeen year old here in
South Carolina who was going, Hey, what's up. I filled
out of the paperwork when I got my license, but
I don't I'm not listed as registered to vote.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, that has happened. One kid did do it. His
last name is Bowers. Trying to find his first name anyway,
bers is Bowers or Counts. I think it's Counts now,
I think about it Counts.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
So this kid was seventeen, gonna turn eighteen. Noah Counts
got his license in February, checked it. I would be
eighteen before the election. On his eighteenth birthday. Sometime in September,
he checked to see if he was registered, and he
was not, And he says, I can only imagine myself
showing up to the polls on the election day being

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told I can't vote, I would have been denied my
right to vote, said Counts, who then immediately contacted the
ACLU and launched a lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Hey, I'm disenfranchised.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Even though he did register to vote, so he didn't
miss out on his own, he had to do it.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
On his own.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
The DMV was contacted by the ACLU. They found this
year one eight hundred and ninety six potential voters that
were not given that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
They weren't automatically processed through the system the way it
was intended to.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Be, and so they are trying to get the State
of South Carolina to extend the registration time. Now, when
was the end of those last week?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Right? They're looking for an extension just for this group
of people because they were not allowed. As we mentioned,
this is Friday at almost eleven o'clock and the hearing
was supposed to be yesterday morning at nine. But we
can't find an update on this.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Well, it's October twenty fifth, and the time to vote,
the register to vote would have ended like October fourteenth, fourteenth.
Noah brought the lawsuit in September. Very simple fix here,
send an email to the eighteen hundred kids that says that, hey,
you're not registered to vote? Would you like to?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Is this another one of these incredible October surprises that
falls flat.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Instead, they decide to wait till after the time has passed,
then launched the lawsuit. This is the kind of crap
that the ACLU loves to do well.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
The South Carolina Department of Motor Vehicle says in their statement,
we are aware of the concerns raised by the ACLU.
The agency's working with the state Election Commission and possible
ways to remedy the issue. Additionally, the SCDMV encourages South
Carolina residents to verify their voter registration information through the
South Carolina Election Commission web page.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, that's something that I was told to do too.
I've been registered to vote in this state since two
thousand Yes are two thousand and three, so I've been
here for twenty one years, and every year there's an election,
I go online.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
And check that's right.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Because I'm told to do that. I shouldn't assume that
I'm still registered even though nothing has changed, just go
ahead and confirm that. So but again, Kamala Harris points
out eighteen years old, stupid, So perhaps that's the excuse. Look,
I get the whole idea that they could have, should
have would have been But if you didn't you, if

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you didn't fill out the paperwork to register to vote,
why would you think you were registered to vote? I
don't think that most of these people ever, That's why
none of them complained, Because the eighteen year olds who
wanted to go registered to vote did go and register
to vote.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't least likely. Although you can do it, you
don't have to do it. They're asked if you will
to register, So we don't even know how every one
of those eleven thousand people responded when they got their license.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And hopefully it's fixed I guess, for the future. But
it's a part of a bigger picture of the Democrats
that I don't like, which is that society is supposed
to try to make it as easy as possible for
everybody to register to vote and to in fact vote.
Like we said, they don't want licenses because that's some
sort of encumbrance. They don't want it to be on

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a day or even a week. They want like a
month or two to vote. Now, pretty soon we're gonna
they're pushing now for electronic voting, meaning that I can
vote from home, I wouldn't have to go anywhere. In
other words, how can we make it so it's almost
guaranteed we can rig it?

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Well, you and I both know the guy who's in
charge of the DMV through the Department of Transportation, so
I can tell you that there's no way that somehow
they were trying to withhold the availability of youngsters to
be able to register to vote when in fact they
picked up their driver's license. But in fact, just as
we've seen with many South Carolina departments, software is not
their strong point.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, I just find it ironic that from two thousand
and two to twenty twenty four, one person has complained.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
So we disenchanted, we disenfranchised.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Or he wouldn't disenfranchise him because he was registered.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's true. We could have possibly disenfranchised. We almost almost
seventeen thousand, but none of the seventeen year olds gave
a damn.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Nobody cared or they hitled it on their own like
they were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Look, we got no kickoffs today and Carolina got the
afternoon off.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I know this is I'm going hiking today. Allegedly, my
wife and I are going to go hiking out in
the National Park here, so I'm looking forward to that.
Also playing tennis in the morning, so it's an action
pack day.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm going to try to get out to your Dora
Farms in Sally, South Carolina when I understand they have
a pumpkin catapult and I'm asking specifically, can I put
a bottle of Tanner Ride in it and borrow Tim
Walls for Red a shotgun and shoot it in midair
and watch it explode much to the delight of all
the youngsters.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well, if you borrowed Tim Wall's shotgun, it wouldn't be loaded.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Jonathan N. Kelly show.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
That is our broadcast.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thank you for being here with us. I'll show myself
out until we meet again, Curt. And that's the way
it is in Wvoc