September 10, 2024 • 31 mins
Ever wondered what it takes to navigate the tricky 'space in between' life’s major transitions? Join us as Carrie recounts her impulsive trip to Texas to explore a new business venture with entrepreneur Craig Shaw. She delves into the importance of aligning business decisions with personal values and the sheer bravery required to venture into the unknown while staying true to one's principles.
Fear of losing money can be paralyzing, but it’s a universal experience that affects everyone, no matter their financial status. We'll unpack the emotional and psychological facets of wealth accumulation and management, emphasizing that true contentment extends beyond financial success. Through personal stories and near-loss experiences, we illustrate how confronting these fears head-on can lead to greater satisfaction in both financial and personal realms.
Our discussion doesn't stop at finances; we dive into the essence of vulnerability and self-care in times of emotional upheaval. Carrie shares her own moments of feeling overwhelmed and the crucial role of self-care and supportive friends in navigating such intense experiences. We explore the concept of wealth calibration and the journey of embodying the identity necessary to achieve our dreams. Engage with us, celebrate authentic connections, and let’s make empowered choices together. Tune in for these profound insights and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Redefining Normal.
Join us as we questionconventional thinking and talk
about the courage it takes tocreate and live a deliciously
vibrant life.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This podcast is for people who know there's a better
way to do life and love how weshow up in connection to others
our kids, our partners, ourbusiness and, beyond that, our
relationship with money,vitality and, more than anything
, ourselves.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're two shamelessly unapologetic moms choosing to
experience the fullness of life.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And we're collapsing the conditioning that says you
can't live a life of pleasure,peace and abundance in the midst
of the mundane of life,responsibilities, work and kids.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thank you for listening in.
Let's do this Today onRedefining Normal.
We are talking about the spacein between.
So we've been talking about onthe show and in my online stuff
and in Wealth Calibration we'vebeen talking about, ultimately,
quantum leaping, or how do westep into the next version of
what we're calling in and whatwe want in our lives.
(01:04):
And when we do this, there isthis space I have sometimes
called the messy middle or thespace in between, or the liminal
space, or this place ofuncertainty, and so today we are
going to talk a little bitabout what that's like, what it
feels like and more about that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, so, carrie, I know that you just recently took
a trip and audience, I'm herejust like getting caught up for
the first time as well, so wethought we'd record it.
So what was this trip to Texas?
Because you know, like I'mmoving and we're doing our
things and I get a message fromCarrie oh, by the way, I'm
hopping on a plane tomorrow togo to Texas to this thing.
(01:42):
So I still don't even knowentirely what it was.
But what was Texas?
Carry this like impromptu tripto Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It's very impromptu trip to Texas, so funny.
It's literally what happened toyou guys.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, like on on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
it was like oh, I can't record on Wednesday
because I literally, you guys,like to the point where I, my
kids, came home from their dadsand I'm like, walking through
the supermarket and I only justbooked the tickets, right, so
they come home on like thefriday, and I just booked the
tickets and I'm like, oh, blah,blah, blah, blah, because, yeah,
next week I will be in.
And I'm like, oh, you guys, mylittle one, sam, he had a
(02:19):
complete meltdown because I hadjust, I just totally slipped it,
which meant them having, when Ibooked the ticket, they had to
go back to their dads for a fewdays and they were really pissed
off and I just like slid thisout and I was like, oh fuck, I
really did not land that in themiddle of a grocery store.
Very well, whoops, whoops,didn't think about that, but
that's how literally quick thishappened of like I'm gonna go to
(02:42):
Texas, to Texas for something.
And so why I was in Dallas isbecause a few months ago, I had
a friend from Australia inviteme into a business opportunity
and I've been looking reallydeeply into this opportunity for
the last few months and had alot of questions around it and
(03:02):
ultimately what it is is anopportunity to run events in
Denver, and they would bemonthly events and they are
underneath someone else's banner.
And so what I wanted to know isdo I even like this banner?
Do I like these people?
Do I like this community?
Because I am not like.
This is an integrity piece,right, I'm not going to be able
to sell or be a part of acommunity that I don't like just
(03:23):
for the sake of it being anopportunity and a business
opportunity and a really coolway to expand and grow.
And so they had an event inDallas, and so, ultimately, what
they're doing is this companyis doing is bringing on
ambassadors to grow theirpersonal development branch.
It's a man who has run a jewelrycompany for many years and then
(03:43):
has gone in and scaled anddeveloped in real estate, but
scaled multiple seven, eight,nine figure companies Sure,
hundreds, hundreds of them, yeah.
So what he started to do is howdo I actually, how do I
actually teach other people todo this and how do I help other
people do this?
Yeah, and so one of his ways,reasons for doing this, is that
the more ambassadors he bringsin to do these events, he can
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help them scale to seven figurebusinesses, right, and then
underneath his banner andeverybody.
It's like it's a win foreverybody.
It feels if done well and doneright.
It feels very abundant andamazing and the people that he's
got in his community arephenomenal.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Right, so I imagine going to this event put you in a
different room, right?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So when I went to this event, and so this man also
his name is craig shaw, youguys can go look him up he's,
regardless of what happens withme doing this like he's
definitely worth checking out.
He's a really amazing human,really fucking beautiful human
with a really now I know areally beautiful community.
Yeah, and so for me, I reallywanted to go and see the
community before I said yes toany of this, because I was like
I don, I don't know.
This all sounds like a reallygreat thing Waved in front of me
(04:45):
.
I wanted to get more.
We've all been in situationswhere it looks great.
It really looks great on paperand financially it looks great.
It looks like a great businessopportunity.
There's so much in this thatcould be really amazing for me
and I've been wanting to speakmore right.
So all of the things, thatThings are like ticking boxes it
gets me yes, yes, yes, yes,into alignment.
And so I went to this event andit was a prelaunch for the
(05:09):
Dallas chapter, one of theDallas chapters.
There's a few opening right now, and so if you're in Dallas and
you're hearing this, feel freeto reach out and I can get you
information if you want to goand check out these amazing
events, actually, anywhere inthe world, like're opening all
over Dallas, vegas, blah, blah,blah, all over New York, and so
this one, though being theprelaunch, it was for the
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ambassadors who are running this, our high net worth individuals
.
One of the men I hung out withso I was there Tuesday,
wednesday night, and leftThursday.
On Tuesday night, craig andthis other man his name is Abe
came over and we spent, I mustsay, five hours.
They had a bottle and a half ofvodka.
I'm not much of a drinker, some and my girlfriend are like.
(05:54):
I think between the two of ushad maybe two or three glasses
over to that right.
The three of them were like, ohmy God, they were hilarious.
It's been a while since I'vebeen with people who've had that
much to drink, but it was funny.
But it was a really heartfelt,open conversation and really
beautiful.
And this man, abe, has aportfolio of $40 million in
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hotel and gas stations.
So what I started to find thatwas so fascinating in this event
was really hearing about theways that so many people make
money and it is actually sofucking easy to make a shit ton
of money, right.
This is what I kept hearingover and over again.
All of them came from I don'tsay it, not all many of them.
Most of them came from nothingand financially and like, grew
(06:38):
until these empires.
Like Craig came from India, thestreets of India, basically
Right, and has grown all the wayto these places, and so part of
it was really fascinating andjust getting to experience the
expansion and feeling into howeasy it can be to make money
(07:05):
when you know how to, or whenyou just have the belief that
money just comes to you easilyall the time, overnight, day in,
day out yeah, consistently,abundantly Right, and it's funny
because I have that feeling solike, ultimately, being in this
place was really fascinatingbecause we were talking about is
(07:27):
like this, in between Right.
But being in this place wasreally fascinating for me
because you guys, my family,like that's.
That's not like.
This is what I grew up in.
Yeah, and yet your nervoussystem was still my nervous
system went into a fuckingcomplete and utter, like what
the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
here?
What am I doing here?
It wasn't that night, becausethat night was sweet, like
hanging out with a bunch offriends, right.
It was the next day, yeah, itwas the next day when I went
into this room for this eventand I would say there was
probably in the room at least$12 billion under management and
(08:12):
it was a sea of men yeah, whichI have not been into a room.
That was such a sea likeprobably 70 men just, and then a
few women sprinkled throughoutand, as a white woman, as a
white human, I was the minority,which is unusual in my very
Denver white centric space thatI'm in.
Right, Not a bad thing, it was areally good thing.
(08:34):
I loved it.
It was amazing.
Yeah, it was just very like.
My whole system was like whoa,this is a very different view
that I'm used to seeing.
Yeah, yeah, so, even that inand of itself.
But to be in a room I, when Istarted to realize it was to be
in a room with so much financialresource, of people who want to
(08:57):
give back, right, like trulypeople who, like they're
building, like Craig's wholepurpose for all of this is to
build and give it all away inhis lifetime.
He's like I want to be abillionaire and give it away in
my lifetime yeah right and likewhen you have heart like that,
like it's a room of heart butit's also a room of a fuck ton
of money.
That can be a lot done withright.
(09:18):
Yeah, just stand in the spaceand go like wow, what an amazing
room of people.
And like I've been in this roommany times before.
But when I started to realizeit was, I've been in this room
because I've been someone'sfamily member.
I was part of this because thisis just who I am.
(09:39):
That day it was like Carrie,you're here because of you,
because of your energy, becauseof your drive, because of your
ambition, because of what you'rehere to do and create in the
world.
Yeah, nothing to do withanything else in my life.
Or?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah and right, the deserving of I deserve to be in
this room and when we wentaround and introduced people,
they actually did.
They actually introduced.
Everybody got to introducethemselves, which is crazy in
this big room.
And I was like Jamie, I usuallyam the vision, I'm a, I'm a
manifestor in my manifestorpower and I'm usually quite the
visionary in a room.
Yeah, I usually have quite thelike wow, that's amazing, carrie
(10:20):
.
I sat in that room and I waslike I just want to bury myself
in a corner and be like what thefuck are you doing with your
life?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
How do I hide?
Yeah, this is such a huge thingto recognize what's happening
in your nervous system, causeyour mind all day long could be
like I belong here.
This is amazing.
Right, all that stuff, but likewhat's happening in your
nervous system, in your body,that's the barrier between where
you are and where you want tobe right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, and so I stood in that room and, like, I did
speak, I didn't hide, I didactually introduce myself.
I did actually have people like, ooh, I was playing with the
different ways of introducingmyself, which was fun, so I
actually had a lot of peopleinterested in talking to me
around, like when I introducedmyself, to helping them with
more pleasure, because a lot ofand this is the other thing that
I felt in the room right,there's this, all this money,
(11:12):
but it's just so fucking blocked, disembodied.
Yeah, it's disembodied, and sothat's why the room was so
intense, because I had all thismoney that was like everywhere,
and this energy that was all upin their heads but nothing in
their bodies.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm like pleasure.
They're like what I just haveto work.
I'm like I know this is theproblem with the world Right and
it really embodied me more intofuck.
This work is so gosh darnneeded in this world Right.
I know without a shadow of adoubt this is why I'm here.
Part of the reason I'm here isto help these people who are
running so much fucking money inthis world.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Like we have this currency.
That is money, that is energy.
I get to finally say this Thankyou, that is energy and that we
, if we shift the way thatpeople touch this energy right,
cause this is what is movingthrough our world.
It's currency, money, finances,right, but it moves every day,
all day long, all around theworld, right.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Lots of it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah.
And so if the people who aresitting on top of it, who are
moving the most money causethat's what they are doing and
they're holding the most money,yeah, if they are dead inside,
if they are shut off, cut down Imean cut cut off, disconnected
yeah Then that is what we are in, what we are putting into the
world, we are putting fear, weare putting lack, because even
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these people were like how do Istop working to give myself the
time for pleasure?
And I'm like if you are makingas much fucking money as you are
making, you do not need to beworking anymore.
And if this is how it works foryou, right, this is what you
are choosing right now, then youare not actually choosing a
life of pleasure.
What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
yeah, just making it all of this.
Yeah, just make it dry, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right, and so it was really a fascinating energy to
like really, and then just toown into Carrie they I know this
is what it's here for, right,yeah, yeah.
And I know that this is fromthe top, like when we really
start to shift this from the topdown, yep, and I don't mean top
(13:09):
on a hierarchical of humanitylevel, I mean top of who's
holding the most money, right,and it's a literal, physical
thing, like do you have a fuckton of money?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, are you managing millions?
Yeah, yes, yes, and it'sinteresting to hear that,
because I think that that's afear that blocks a lot of people
from making money at each levelis like, how do I not lose it?
And so we're still focusing onwhat we're afraid of versus what
we're trying to create, youknow, but like it's interesting
to hear that that fear of likewill I always have enough?
(13:39):
You know, like I need tocontinue to accumulate so that I
have enough, so that I can'tlose it versus the yeah, that
like that it actually leading toliberation.
And just recognizing that's aninner, that's a mental game,
that is an inner work that hasto be done, no matter if you're
managing a hundred thousand or ahundred millions.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know like it is and that the money is never
going to be the thing thatsatisfies you, which is what
I've talked about, like it endswith me.
The entire book is about this.
Principle is that money is notgoing to be what satisfies you.
Yeah, yeah.
So these people are still notsatisfied.
Yeah, and there's still fear.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Right Like, and I, and I always say this it doesn't
matter how much fucking moneyyou have, there is still.
You don't address the issues ofissues of your own fear around
it.
It will.
It will carry with you for allof your experience of money.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right, it doesn't matter what level you're playing
at, the core is still there.
The player is still yeah thesame.
Yeah, yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That is fascinating, yep, and so what's also
interesting around it I alsoheard a lot in this room was
that you know, like a lot ofpeople who are afraid of taking
risk and making money generallyspeaking, I don't know somebody
who's made it to hundreds ofmillions or billions of dollars
without fucking damn close tolosing it all.
At least once, yes, if notlosing it all, at least once,
yes, right, um, is that theyknow that, even though they
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might be afraid of losing itagain because they don't want to
, because they know what itfucking feels like to do afraid
of losing it again because theydon't want to, because they know
what it fucking feels like todo they also are willing to go
at life and take the risks, yeah, because they know that if
something happens, they can doit again 100.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, like, think about this in all areas, like
any sort of discomfort andchallenge or struggle teaches us
something, and so you have tonavigate the things you're most
afraid of in order to overcomethem, right?
So like, if you're, if you'reafraid of something and you
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never actually get to integratethe lesson of that you're,
that's always going to be ablock in your system.
So those people that have losteverything or come damn near
close to losing everything, havethe wisdom in their bodies of
that experience, right, and somany people are not willing to
lose it all.
They play so safe that theywill never it's the same thing
(15:57):
in love too, right?
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I mean the same thing , every arena, Every summit.
You say to me Carrie, you'relike, you're so willing to open
your heart.
I'm like because, yeah, I meanlike we're going through it now.
What else are we going to do,right, I'm going to lose.
Probably will have my heartbroken at some point, but at
least I got.
At least I was willing to riskloving yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I think about, even in me and Kyle's marriage.
I have had my heart broken,he's had his heart broken, but
we have a choice whether or notwe learn and grow from it or we
suffer through it.
Right, like struggle.
Struggle is necessary, but likesuffering is a choice, yeah,
(16:40):
yeah, like.
Am I going to learn and evolveand become something different,
or am I going to collapse, youknow, into it and so, yeah, so
on that note.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So on that note, like coming back to this upload
piece, right, yeah, sitting inthis room because this
discomfort, this is exactlywhere I got to right.
Right, I'm sitting in this roomand I'm like, in total and if
anyone knows understands like ahighly sensitive human.
I am a highly sensitive human.
I feel everything.
It's a blessing and a curse allat the same time.
(17:12):
So what I have learned is,sometimes my nervous system gets
so fricking jacked that I justhave to walk away and breathe,
otherwise I will, like, lose myeverything.
Right?
So I got to the place in thisparty where I was like, oh my
God, my nervous system is sooverwhelmed and it wasn't
because of anything bad, it wasactually because of all this
amazingness, right, and I wantto say this here because there
(17:33):
was nothing bad happening andour nervous system can get.
This is exactly what happenswhen we're up leveling, when
we're going into new places.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
My nervous system is like what the fuck do I do here?
I do not know what this is.
Yeah and the nervous.
What do I do here?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And so I walked outside.
We get dinner and I walkoutside with my friend and we're
both like we both both highlysensitive humans.
Both went and just took amoment to just breathe.
She walked away at some pointand as she walked away, the
tears just started flowing andI'm like I'm sitting outside and
there's a whole room of peoplebehind me that I'm supposed to
(18:08):
be professional and I'm notsupposed to be a fucking
emotional woman and I'm notsupposed to be crying right now
and I'm not supposed to beoverwhelmed because here I am
telling you about pleasure andjoy.
That's all like conditioningstory Right, this is what I'm
saying, this Right, yeah, andI'm like, but in the moment I
was like if you don't do this,this you're not going to be okay
, the reality of what'shappening, right.
Like your body needs to do this, and it's okay, and so I let
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myself, and there was a part ofme that wanted to go deeper.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I even sent you a message.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I think at that point I was like somebody help me,
somebody talk me back down tothis planet right now.
But it was interesting becausea couple of people sent messages
to you.
Guys were all busy, which istotally human and normal, right.
So I was like and it's okay,yeah, you've got yourself, carry
right, you've got yourself andyou can have this moment and
even in this discomfort becauseit wasn't gone, right, like I
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could call myself a little, butit wasn't gone Even in this
discomfort, I can shut my mindup, stop telling myself nasty
things, take a deep breath, putmy big girl panties on and walk
back in that room and make somemore friends.
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, and Idid.
I made some really incrediblefriends after that.
Like, yeah, awesome people thatI'm really looking forward to
staying connected with.
That's amazing and phenomenalhumans that are intellectually
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like mind-blowing to me awesomeand and then I got home and I
did have a friend who think,thank goodness, justin like
called me and he talked me downoff of a ledge from all of the
fucking noise that was in myhead going you stupid, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
Who the fuck do you think youare that could possibly have be
(19:43):
worthy enough to be in this room?
Who?
How do you think you can helpthese people?
You crazy woman.
Blah, blah, blah, all that shit.
And I'm saying this becausewe're all human and I want you
guys to hear that when we're inthese moments, this is so
fucking normal, yeah, and real,like, and real, yeah, you're
like I don't when you watcheither jamie or I up level
things in life, like, yeah, no,that this is what we have to go
(20:04):
through.
Yeah, and this is the feelingthat happens.
So in these moments, like,thank God, I have my tools and
this is what both of us teach toour clients, to our groups.
Right, and I'm no surprise youguys, we're going through wealth
calibration.
Right now, I'm halfway throughteaching wealth calibration.
What is wealth calibrationabout?
It is literally about how do wequantum leap into the identity.
I'm getting the chills.
I'm getting the chills into theidentity of who we become in
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order to live our dreams.
I was literally in the room ofmy dreams, yeah.
Right, you can't mimic that, youcannot theorize that it has to
be embodied experience for yournervous and I had to.
I had to move through what Ihad to, energetically and in my
body, so like this is amanifestation, one-on-one.
We have to clear the channel ofour body and our energetics,
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our emotions, our spirit, all ofthe inner blocks that are
saying to us you can't possiblybe here, yeah, and conditioning
that says no, this is not okay.
Right, In order to actually getinto that room in the first
place.
And then the next piece issaying and now this gets to be
fucking normal, yeah, so how doyou make this normal in your
body, right?
(21:11):
This normal in your body, right?
So that's been my journey.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's been like okay, now, how do I lock this into my
body and make this normal andnot have my body go jacked up
crazy?
You want to fucking run out thedoor.
And this happens at every uplevel.
Like don't get the idea that,like I did it once, okay, now
I'm good, I did it and now I'mhere.
It's like every time you uplevel, every time you step into
some expansion, there is anintegration process that is
terribly uncomfortable most ofthe time because it is revealing
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what you were unaware of yet,and it cannot be theoretical.
I think this is the thing isall day long you can imagine
being in a room of wealthypeople.
It is not the same as being in aroom full of wealthy people,
and to give yourself theopportunity to step into the
discomfort and allow your body,your being, to calibrate until
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it feels normal is what it takes.
You can't, you can't pretendthis shit, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You can't, and Craig even looked at me at some point.
He was like you know, carrie,in a year's time this is just
going to be your normal.
This won't actually jack you up.
And I'm like, yeah, but also Ialso want to say here too, it's
really beautiful to align withpeople who, when you're in that
space, doesn't matter what levelof money they have, right, but
they can look at you and go, yep, I get it, because they've also
been there.
They've also not been in a roomthat they were like holy fuck,
(22:26):
what am I doing here before?
Because they had to do it too.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, Right, think about this on all the fronts.
I mean even like, if you gointo I don't know, I think about
people maybe stepping into oneof our containers or something
right, they're like, oh my God,like what are they going to make
?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
me do.
How uncomfortable is thatExpression?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
right, it's normal to feel that fear and you've got
to step into the discomfort ofthe container to face whatever
it's revealing like at eachlevel.
So we're talking about billionsof dollars in this conversation
.
But even those of you thatmight feel uncomfortable
stepping into wealth calibrationbecause, like, what am I going
to have to look at?
Right, I don't belong in thatroom, I'm not that evolved or
(23:04):
I'm not that healed or I don'tspeak the whatever your story is
, it's like that's.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's actually like revealing the fastest pathway to
the growth that you're lookingfor, like I think ultimately
truly, I mean you and I both doit Like whatever I'm afraid of,
whatever makes me feel the mostfear is generally speaking.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That is why I'm living in an unfinished loft at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It is why I'm going through a strange and utter
weird breakup and also stayingfriends with him and staying in
a community with him yeah rightyeah, right because like the
leaning in is the edge of likethat's not the normal thing to
do.
So how do we actually lean into?
Because that's how we heal it.
Yeah, like try something newbecause these other things
didn't work in the past.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, right, and the option is continue the cycle of
that discomfort and thatavoidance and that, whatever,
either way.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Either way it's uncomfortable because, if I were
to stay and you and I know thisright and I want to say this to
you guys to think about thislike, really take a moment to
sit in your body who's listeningright now?
And if you were to stay exactlywhere you are and you look at
your life in a year's time andyou really feel into your body,
does that feel comfortable inyour body?
It doesn't feel comfortable inmine.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
No me neither.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, it doesn't feel comfortable in mine.
So the choice is getuncomfortable for a little bit
here, so that I can have evenmore comfort in my body and more
peace and more joy and more allthe things that I desire,
because I'm in a higheralignment with myself.
It's not that I'm not unhappywith my life right now, because
I'm in a higher alignment withmyself.
It's not that I'm not unhappywith my life right now, my life
is really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's that, but is that my?
Is this where I'm?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
stuck in stagnant here it would not feel good for
me to stay here forever, right,and so the next piece, right.
Then we have to look at like isit worth for you listening into
this?
Is it worth moving through thediscomfort that you're going to
have to move through right nowto step into being the person
who actually creates theirdreams and allows yourself to be
in the room to do like, do thehealth things, to do the
(25:01):
relationship things, to reallyface the stuff that you're not
facing and make the shifts andchanges, create the new habits
so that you get to live in yourdreams?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
because it's not a matter of like.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
One day it just shows up.
It's a matter of smallincremental choices and
decisions to show up foryourself over time.
That puts you into.
All of a sudden you're juststanding there, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And I think this is that like goes back to that
discussion of suffering too islike to stay in the same
familiar discomfort is like thedefinition of suffering, you
know, like to choose the painover and over and over again,
versus choosing the unknowndiscomfort for the potential of
something different.
Yeah, it's like that's growthor suffering.
(25:43):
Which way do you want to treatthe current discomfort?
I know what I'm going to do.
Over and over and over again,and I'm lucky that I've gotten
the opportunity to see everysingle freaking time.
It's growth, it's ease it, itopens into something.
Never have I chosen to face thediscomfort and then find myself
(26:06):
in a worse, more painful,collapsed situation.
You know like it always leadsto expansion.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
If I can see myself through the nervous system,
integration of something new,right, yeah, Um, all right, I
know we want to keep this to atime, so do we have any?
Any other last questions youwant to ask me?
Um?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
just your final thoughts, Like what is kind of
your summarized takeaway fromthe amazing opportunity and
experience to see what yournervous system is doing in your,
I mean like literally it's areflection of your next level.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It is, it is and it's exciting, and I'm going to sit
here on this podcast and reallydeclaim, claim this, that like,
if this is you and you know thatyou're wanting support from
understanding what it's like tohave a really successful life,
like financially successful life, but not feel the pleasure, the
joy, the love, the other thingsthat you actually want, cause
you're feeling empty and deadinside, right, even if you don't
want to admit that to yourselfright now, I'd start to say that
(27:03):
you should probably admit thatto yourself.
I always say it's like you lookreally successful on the.
I know that I'm really fuckinggood at it and I know that I can
help you.
Yeah, number two um, my overalltake there's a few overall
takes is one have the fuckingcourage to go into the places,
(27:25):
whether it's love, whether it'sbusiness, whether it's your
health.
Have the fucking courage to gointo the places that feel really
uncomfortable and to do thingswhen you don't know.
Like I had no idea.
I just I didn't even know wewere staying.
I got the like Airbnb that day.
I was like, okay, I'm justshowing up, right, I'm just
showing the fuck up and that'sit.
That's what life is about.
(27:46):
Show the fuck up, right.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And, um, the other piece is don't be attached to
like this is the other part,Like don't be attached to an
outcome to it either.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, so it's this or something better Like this to
me put me into a space thatit's like maybe something
amazing come out of this.
Yeah, this room, these people,whatever, or maybe this was just
the launching pad for me to go.
Yeah, I'm totally worthy and Ihad to go through this
experience like an opportunityfor your nervous system to
experience something just tothis yeah right, yeah, and and
(28:17):
that in that, like I've beenoffered I will say this and
maybe this will be anotherconversation we should have
another time.
Actually, it's been offered acontract I haven't talked to you
about this yet um, to work withthem.
Yeah, and there's some thingsin the contract that I'm like I
don't know if I'm in alignmentwith this.
Yeah, and and I think it'sreally fucking amazing when you
can walk into a space that yougo this is amazing and I thought
(28:37):
this is my absolute fuckingdream, but maybe it's not right
and to have the empowereddecision and the empowered
choice to look at things from anot dreamy carrot in front of
you perspective, that goes, ohmy God, because this is the
first thing that shows up andit's so amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I'm, I have to grab it.
It's going to be the be all endall.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, it's the first of who knows?
They've been relationships, bythe way, right.
Which is this is the lesson,right?
Right, it's been throughrelationships that I've learned
this and finally, I was likewait a minute, the same thing in
business.
Yes, I don't have to, and I canlook at this from a really
fucking smart perspective andsee those little red flags,
those little one degree nuancesthat are like that's not a
hundred percent right.
(29:15):
And if it's not a hundredpercent right, I have the choice
to say no yeah.
Yes, even though it looks sofricking, shiny and beautiful
from the outside.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, Fantasy can create a lot of illusions.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah.
And so I think, in anyopportunity that we have and
this can happen in investing inlove, in business and all these
different ways where we get intoshiny object territory and we
don't listen to our nervoussystem and we don't pay
attention to what our bodies aresaying to us, yeah, then that's
when we get ourselves intotrouble.
And so for me, it's like I hadto come home and I had to be
(29:50):
able to be like how do Iintegrate this into my nervous
system, how do I really feelabout this home?
And I had to be able to be likehow do I integrate this into my
nervous system, how do I reallyfeel about this?
How do I look at this from alogical perspective, not just
from the carrot daydream that'sso possible.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
The gambler right, like yeah, I mean, like that's
how, at least for me personally,I've been through the
situations where I have damnnear lost everything because
that shiny carrot that the youknow looks exciting and not
really being practical andlistening to the deep wisdom
that's available in all of it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So yeah, live and learn, live and learn, live and
learn.
And because we've talked aboutwealth calibration, I will say
you guys, I am a hundred percent, I'm going to run this again.
Okay, I'm not going to say ahundred percent, maybe I'm going
to say 95%, because it gives mymanifestor ass a way out.
But this manifestor ass, Ithink for the first time ever,
is going to actually run aprogram again.
(30:42):
Nice, don't, don't Nice.
I think she's going to actuallyrun a program again, yes.
So if this is exciting to you,do reach out to me, let me know,
and then, when I open doors,I'll let you know, because this
is truly um.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm so you know you've got access to my
generator motor to like push itthrough.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So we're doing it again, awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Thank you for sharing that.
I think that that's a.
There's a lot of wisdom in allof that.
So thank you for being, youknow, honest and vulnerable
about what it's like to stepinto the unknown and what it
takes to to up level, like inall areas of life.
Much love, yes, and we will seeyou on the next episode.
(31:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
And we're collapsing the conditioning that says you
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thank you for listening in.
Let's do this Today onRedefining Normal.
We are talking about the spacein between.
So we've been talking about onthe show and in my online stuff
and in Wealth Calibration we'vebeen talking about, ultimately,
quantum leaping, or how do westep into the next version of
what we're calling in and whatwe want in our lives.
(01:04):
And when we do this, there isthis space I have sometimes
called the messy middle or thespace in between, or the liminal
space, or this place ofuncertainty, and so today we are
going to talk a little bitabout what that's like, what it
feels like and more about that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, so, carrie, I know that you just recently took
a trip and audience, I'm herejust like getting caught up for
the first time as well, so wethought we'd record it.
So what was this trip to Texas?
Because you know, like I'mmoving and we're doing our
things and I get a message fromCarrie oh, by the way, I'm
hopping on a plane tomorrow togo to Texas to this thing.
(01:42):
So I still don't even knowentirely what it was.
But what was Texas?
Carry this like impromptu tripto Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It's very impromptu trip to Texas, so funny.
It's literally what happened toyou guys.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, like on on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
it was like oh, I can't record on Wednesday
because I literally, you guys,like to the point where I, my
kids, came home from their dadsand I'm like, walking through
the supermarket and I only justbooked the tickets, right, so
they come home on like thefriday, and I just booked the
tickets and I'm like, oh, blah,blah, blah, blah, because, yeah,
next week I will be in.
And I'm like, oh, you guys, mylittle one, sam, he had a
(02:19):
complete meltdown because I hadjust, I just totally slipped it,
which meant them having, when Ibooked the ticket, they had to
go back to their dads for a fewdays and they were really pissed
off and I just like slid thisout and I was like, oh fuck, I
really did not land that in themiddle of a grocery store.
Very well, whoops, whoops,didn't think about that, but
that's how literally quick thishappened of like I'm gonna go to
(02:42):
Texas, to Texas for something.
And so why I was in Dallas isbecause a few months ago, I had
a friend from Australia inviteme into a business opportunity
and I've been looking reallydeeply into this opportunity for
the last few months and had alot of questions around it and
(03:02):
ultimately what it is is anopportunity to run events in
Denver, and they would bemonthly events and they are
underneath someone else's banner.
And so what I wanted to know isdo I even like this banner?
Do I like these people?
Do I like this community?
Because I am not like.
This is an integrity piece,right, I'm not going to be able
to sell or be a part of acommunity that I don't like just
(03:23):
for the sake of it being anopportunity and a business
opportunity and a really coolway to expand and grow.
And so they had an event inDallas, and so, ultimately, what
they're doing is this companyis doing is bringing on
ambassadors to grow theirpersonal development branch.
It's a man who has run a jewelrycompany for many years and then
(03:43):
has gone in and scaled anddeveloped in real estate, but
scaled multiple seven, eight,nine figure companies Sure,
hundreds, hundreds of them, yeah.
So what he started to do is howdo I actually, how do I
actually teach other people todo this and how do I help other
people do this?
Yeah, and so one of his ways,reasons for doing this, is that
the more ambassadors he bringsin to do these events, he can
(04:05):
help them scale to seven figurebusinesses, right, and then
underneath his banner andeverybody.
It's like it's a win foreverybody.
It feels if done well and doneright.
It feels very abundant andamazing and the people that he's
got in his community arephenomenal.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Right, so I imagine going to this event put you in a
different room, right?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So when I went to this event, and so this man also
his name is craig shaw, youguys can go look him up he's,
regardless of what happens withme doing this like he's
definitely worth checking out.
He's a really amazing human,really fucking beautiful human
with a really now I know areally beautiful community.
Yeah, and so for me, I reallywanted to go and see the
community before I said yes toany of this, because I was like
I don, I don't know.
This all sounds like a reallygreat thing Waved in front of me
(04:45):
.
I wanted to get more.
We've all been in situationswhere it looks great.
It really looks great on paperand financially it looks great.
It looks like a great businessopportunity.
There's so much in this thatcould be really amazing for me
and I've been wanting to speakmore right.
So all of the things, thatThings are like ticking boxes it
gets me yes, yes, yes, yes,into alignment.
And so I went to this event andit was a prelaunch for the
(05:09):
Dallas chapter, one of theDallas chapters.
There's a few opening right now, and so if you're in Dallas and
you're hearing this, feel freeto reach out and I can get you
information if you want to goand check out these amazing
events, actually, anywhere inthe world, like're opening all
over Dallas, vegas, blah, blah,blah, all over New York, and so
this one, though being theprelaunch, it was for the
(05:33):
ambassadors who are running this, our high net worth individuals
.
One of the men I hung out withso I was there Tuesday,
wednesday night, and leftThursday.
On Tuesday night, craig andthis other man his name is Abe
came over and we spent, I mustsay, five hours.
They had a bottle and a half ofvodka.
I'm not much of a drinker, some and my girlfriend are like.
(05:54):
I think between the two of ushad maybe two or three glasses
over to that right.
The three of them were like, ohmy God, they were hilarious.
It's been a while since I'vebeen with people who've had that
much to drink, but it was funny.
But it was a really heartfelt,open conversation and really
beautiful.
And this man, abe, has aportfolio of $40 million in
(06:16):
hotel and gas stations.
So what I started to find thatwas so fascinating in this event
was really hearing about theways that so many people make
money and it is actually sofucking easy to make a shit ton
of money, right.
This is what I kept hearingover and over again.
All of them came from I don'tsay it, not all many of them.
Most of them came from nothingand financially and like, grew
(06:38):
until these empires.
Like Craig came from India, thestreets of India, basically
Right, and has grown all the wayto these places, and so part of
it was really fascinating andjust getting to experience the
expansion and feeling into howeasy it can be to make money
(07:05):
when you know how to, or whenyou just have the belief that
money just comes to you easilyall the time, overnight, day in,
day out yeah, consistently,abundantly Right, and it's funny
because I have that feeling solike, ultimately, being in this
place was really fascinatingbecause we were talking about is
(07:27):
like this, in between Right.
But being in this place wasreally fascinating for me
because you guys, my family,like that's.
That's not like.
This is what I grew up in.
Yeah, and yet your nervoussystem was still my nervous
system went into a fuckingcomplete and utter, like what
the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What am I doing?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
here?
What am I doing here?
It wasn't that night, becausethat night was sweet, like
hanging out with a bunch offriends, right.
It was the next day, yeah, itwas the next day when I went
into this room for this eventand I would say there was
probably in the room at least$12 billion under management and
(08:12):
it was a sea of men yeah, whichI have not been into a room.
That was such a sea likeprobably 70 men just, and then a
few women sprinkled throughoutand, as a white woman, as a
white human, I was the minority,which is unusual in my very
Denver white centric space thatI'm in.
Right, Not a bad thing, it was areally good thing.
(08:34):
I loved it.
It was amazing.
Yeah, it was just very like.
My whole system was like whoa,this is a very different view
that I'm used to seeing.
Yeah, yeah, so, even that inand of itself.
But to be in a room I, when Istarted to realize it was to be
in a room with so much financialresource, of people who want to
(08:57):
give back, right, like trulypeople who, like they're
building, like Craig's wholepurpose for all of this is to
build and give it all away inhis lifetime.
He's like I want to be abillionaire and give it away in
my lifetime yeah right and likewhen you have heart like that,
like it's a room of heart butit's also a room of a fuck ton
of money.
That can be a lot done withright.
(09:18):
Yeah, just stand in the spaceand go like wow, what an amazing
room of people.
And like I've been in this roommany times before.
But when I started to realizeit was, I've been in this room
because I've been someone'sfamily member.
I was part of this because thisis just who I am.
(09:39):
That day it was like Carrie,you're here because of you,
because of your energy, becauseof your drive, because of your
ambition, because of what you'rehere to do and create in the
world.
Yeah, nothing to do withanything else in my life.
Or?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah and right, the deserving of I deserve to be in
this room and when we wentaround and introduced people,
they actually did.
They actually introduced.
Everybody got to introducethemselves, which is crazy in
this big room.
And I was like Jamie, I usuallyam the vision, I'm a, I'm a
manifestor in my manifestorpower and I'm usually quite the
visionary in a room.
Yeah, I usually have quite thelike wow, that's amazing, carrie
(10:20):
.
I sat in that room and I waslike I just want to bury myself
in a corner and be like what thefuck are you doing with your
life?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
How do I hide?
Yeah, this is such a huge thingto recognize what's happening
in your nervous system, causeyour mind all day long could be
like I belong here.
This is amazing.
Right, all that stuff, but likewhat's happening in your
nervous system, in your body,that's the barrier between where
you are and where you want tobe right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, and so I stood in that room and, like, I did
speak, I didn't hide, I didactually introduce myself.
I did actually have people like, ooh, I was playing with the
different ways of introducingmyself, which was fun, so I
actually had a lot of peopleinterested in talking to me
around, like when I introducedmyself, to helping them with
more pleasure, because a lot ofand this is the other thing that
I felt in the room right,there's this, all this money,
(11:12):
but it's just so fucking blocked, disembodied.
Yeah, it's disembodied, and sothat's why the room was so
intense, because I had all thismoney that was like everywhere,
and this energy that was all upin their heads but nothing in
their bodies.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm like pleasure.
They're like what I just haveto work.
I'm like I know this is theproblem with the world Right and
it really embodied me more intofuck.
This work is so gosh darnneeded in this world Right.
I know without a shadow of adoubt this is why I'm here.
Part of the reason I'm here isto help these people who are
running so much fucking money inthis world.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Like we have this currency.
That is money, that is energy.
I get to finally say this Thankyou, that is energy and that we
, if we shift the way thatpeople touch this energy right,
cause this is what is movingthrough our world.
It's currency, money, finances,right, but it moves every day,
all day long, all around theworld, right.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Lots of it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah.
And so if the people who aresitting on top of it, who are
moving the most money causethat's what they are doing and
they're holding the most money,yeah, if they are dead inside,
if they are shut off, cut down Imean cut cut off, disconnected
yeah Then that is what we are in, what we are putting into the
world, we are putting fear, weare putting lack, because even
(12:26):
these people were like how do Istop working to give myself the
time for pleasure?
And I'm like if you are makingas much fucking money as you are
making, you do not need to beworking anymore.
And if this is how it works foryou, right, this is what you
are choosing right now, then youare not actually choosing a
life of pleasure.
What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
yeah, just making it all of this.
Yeah, just make it dry, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right, and so it was really a fascinating energy to
like really, and then just toown into Carrie they I know this
is what it's here for, right,yeah, yeah.
And I know that this is fromthe top, like when we really
start to shift this from the topdown, yep, and I don't mean top
(13:09):
on a hierarchical of humanitylevel, I mean top of who's
holding the most money, right,and it's a literal, physical
thing, like do you have a fuckton of money?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, are you managing millions?
Yeah, yes, yes, and it'sinteresting to hear that,
because I think that that's afear that blocks a lot of people
from making money at each levelis like, how do I not lose it?
And so we're still focusing onwhat we're afraid of versus what
we're trying to create, youknow, but like it's interesting
to hear that that fear of likewill I always have enough?
(13:39):
You know, like I need tocontinue to accumulate so that I
have enough, so that I can'tlose it versus the yeah, that
like that it actually leading toliberation.
And just recognizing that's aninner, that's a mental game,
that is an inner work that hasto be done, no matter if you're
managing a hundred thousand or ahundred millions.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know like it is and that the money is never
going to be the thing thatsatisfies you, which is what
I've talked about, like it endswith me.
The entire book is about this.
Principle is that money is notgoing to be what satisfies you.
Yeah, yeah.
So these people are still notsatisfied.
Yeah, and there's still fear.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Right Like, and I, and I always say this it doesn't
matter how much fucking moneyyou have, there is still.
You don't address the issues ofissues of your own fear around
it.
It will.
It will carry with you for allof your experience of money.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right, it doesn't matter what level you're playing
at, the core is still there.
The player is still yeah thesame.
Yeah, yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That is fascinating, yep, and so what's also
interesting around it I alsoheard a lot in this room was
that you know, like a lot ofpeople who are afraid of taking
risk and making money generallyspeaking, I don't know somebody
who's made it to hundreds ofmillions or billions of dollars
without fucking damn close tolosing it all.
At least once, yes, if notlosing it all, at least once,
yes, right, um, is that theyknow that, even though they
(15:02):
might be afraid of losing itagain because they don't want to
, because they know what itfucking feels like to do afraid
of losing it again because theydon't want to, because they know
what it fucking feels like todo they also are willing to go
at life and take the risks, yeah, because they know that if
something happens, they can doit again 100.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, like, think about this in all areas, like
any sort of discomfort andchallenge or struggle teaches us
something, and so you have tonavigate the things you're most
afraid of in order to overcomethem, right?
So like, if you're, if you'reafraid of something and you
(15:36):
never actually get to integratethe lesson of that you're,
that's always going to be ablock in your system.
So those people that have losteverything or come damn near
close to losing everything, havethe wisdom in their bodies of
that experience, right, and somany people are not willing to
lose it all.
They play so safe that theywill never it's the same thing
(15:57):
in love too, right?
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I mean the same thing , every arena, Every summit.
You say to me Carrie, you'relike, you're so willing to open
your heart.
I'm like because, yeah, I meanlike we're going through it now.
What else are we going to do,right, I'm going to lose.
Probably will have my heartbroken at some point, but at
least I got.
At least I was willing to riskloving yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I think about, even in me and Kyle's marriage.
I have had my heart broken,he's had his heart broken, but
we have a choice whether or notwe learn and grow from it or we
suffer through it.
Right, like struggle.
Struggle is necessary, but likesuffering is a choice, yeah,
(16:40):
yeah, like.
Am I going to learn and evolveand become something different,
or am I going to collapse, youknow, into it and so, yeah, so
on that note.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So on that note, like coming back to this upload
piece, right, yeah, sitting inthis room because this
discomfort, this is exactlywhere I got to right.
Right, I'm sitting in this roomand I'm like, in total and if
anyone knows understands like ahighly sensitive human.
I am a highly sensitive human.
I feel everything.
It's a blessing and a curse allat the same time.
(17:12):
So what I have learned is,sometimes my nervous system gets
so fricking jacked that I justhave to walk away and breathe,
otherwise I will, like, lose myeverything.
Right?
So I got to the place in thisparty where I was like, oh my
God, my nervous system is sooverwhelmed and it wasn't
because of anything bad, it wasactually because of all this
amazingness, right, and I wantto say this here because there
(17:33):
was nothing bad happening andour nervous system can get.
This is exactly what happenswhen we're up leveling, when
we're going into new places.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
My nervous system is like what the fuck do I do here?
I do not know what this is.
Yeah and the nervous.
What do I do here?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And so I walked outside.
We get dinner and I walkoutside with my friend and we're
both like we both both highlysensitive humans.
Both went and just took amoment to just breathe.
She walked away at some pointand as she walked away, the
tears just started flowing andI'm like I'm sitting outside and
there's a whole room of peoplebehind me that I'm supposed to
(18:08):
be professional and I'm notsupposed to be a fucking
emotional woman and I'm notsupposed to be crying right now
and I'm not supposed to beoverwhelmed because here I am
telling you about pleasure andjoy.
That's all like conditioningstory Right, this is what I'm
saying, this Right, yeah, andI'm like, but in the moment I
was like if you don't do this,this you're not going to be okay
, the reality of what'shappening, right.
Like your body needs to do this, and it's okay, and so I let
(18:31):
myself, and there was a part ofme that wanted to go deeper.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I even sent you a message.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I think at that point I was like somebody help me,
somebody talk me back down tothis planet right now.
But it was interesting becausea couple of people sent messages
to you.
Guys were all busy, which istotally human and normal, right.
So I was like and it's okay,yeah, you've got yourself, carry
right, you've got yourself andyou can have this moment and
even in this discomfort becauseit wasn't gone, right, like I
(18:58):
could call myself a little, butit wasn't gone Even in this
discomfort, I can shut my mindup, stop telling myself nasty
things, take a deep breath, putmy big girl panties on and walk
back in that room and make somemore friends.
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, and Idid.
I made some really incrediblefriends after that.
Like, yeah, awesome people thatI'm really looking forward to
staying connected with.
That's amazing and phenomenalhumans that are intellectually
(19:22):
like mind-blowing to me awesomeand and then I got home and I
did have a friend who think,thank goodness, justin like
called me and he talked me downoff of a ledge from all of the
fucking noise that was in myhead going you stupid, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
Who the fuck do you think youare that could possibly have be
(19:43):
worthy enough to be in this room?
Who?
How do you think you can helpthese people?
You crazy woman.
Blah, blah, blah, all that shit.
And I'm saying this becausewe're all human and I want you
guys to hear that when we're inthese moments, this is so
fucking normal, yeah, and real,like, and real, yeah, you're
like I don't when you watcheither jamie or I up level
things in life, like, yeah, no,that this is what we have to go
(20:04):
through.
Yeah, and this is the feelingthat happens.
So in these moments, like,thank God, I have my tools and
this is what both of us teach toour clients, to our groups.
Right, and I'm no surprise youguys, we're going through wealth
calibration.
Right now, I'm halfway throughteaching wealth calibration.
What is wealth calibrationabout?
It is literally about how do wequantum leap into the identity.
I'm getting the chills.
I'm getting the chills into theidentity of who we become in
(20:26):
order to live our dreams.
I was literally in the room ofmy dreams, yeah.
Right, you can't mimic that, youcannot theorize that it has to
be embodied experience for yournervous and I had to.
I had to move through what Ihad to, energetically and in my
body, so like this is amanifestation, one-on-one.
We have to clear the channel ofour body and our energetics,
(20:47):
our emotions, our spirit, all ofthe inner blocks that are
saying to us you can't possiblybe here, yeah, and conditioning
that says no, this is not okay.
Right, In order to actually getinto that room in the first
place.
And then the next piece issaying and now this gets to be
fucking normal, yeah, so how doyou make this normal in your
body, right?
(21:11):
This normal in your body, right?
So that's been my journey.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's been like okay, now, how do I lock this into my
body and make this normal andnot have my body go jacked up
crazy?
You want to fucking run out thedoor.
And this happens at every uplevel.
Like don't get the idea that,like I did it once, okay, now
I'm good, I did it and now I'mhere.
It's like every time you uplevel, every time you step into
some expansion, there is anintegration process that is
terribly uncomfortable most ofthe time because it is revealing
(21:33):
what you were unaware of yet,and it cannot be theoretical.
I think this is the thing isall day long you can imagine
being in a room of wealthypeople.
It is not the same as being in aroom full of wealthy people,
and to give yourself theopportunity to step into the
discomfort and allow your body,your being, to calibrate until
(21:58):
it feels normal is what it takes.
You can't, you can't pretendthis shit, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You can't, and Craig even looked at me at some point.
He was like you know, carrie,in a year's time this is just
going to be your normal.
This won't actually jack you up.
And I'm like, yeah, but also Ialso want to say here too, it's
really beautiful to align withpeople who, when you're in that
space, doesn't matter what levelof money they have, right, but
they can look at you and go, yep, I get it, because they've also
been there.
They've also not been in a roomthat they were like holy fuck,
(22:26):
what am I doing here before?
Because they had to do it too.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, Right, think about this on all the fronts.
I mean even like, if you gointo I don't know, I think about
people maybe stepping into oneof our containers or something
right, they're like, oh my God,like what are they going to make
?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
me do.
How uncomfortable is thatExpression?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
right, it's normal to feel that fear and you've got
to step into the discomfort ofthe container to face whatever
it's revealing like at eachlevel.
So we're talking about billionsof dollars in this conversation
.
But even those of you thatmight feel uncomfortable
stepping into wealth calibrationbecause, like, what am I going
to have to look at?
Right, I don't belong in thatroom, I'm not that evolved or
(23:04):
I'm not that healed or I don'tspeak the whatever your story is
, it's like that's.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's actually like revealing the fastest pathway to
the growth that you're lookingfor, like I think ultimately
truly, I mean you and I both doit Like whatever I'm afraid of,
whatever makes me feel the mostfear is generally speaking.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That is why I'm living in an unfinished loft at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It is why I'm going through a strange and utter
weird breakup and also stayingfriends with him and staying in
a community with him yeah rightyeah, right because like the
leaning in is the edge of likethat's not the normal thing to
do.
So how do we actually lean into?
Because that's how we heal it.
Yeah, like try something newbecause these other things
didn't work in the past.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, right, and the option is continue the cycle of
that discomfort and thatavoidance and that, whatever,
either way.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Either way it's uncomfortable because, if I were
to stay and you and I know thisright and I want to say this to
you guys to think about thislike, really take a moment to
sit in your body who's listeningright now?
And if you were to stay exactlywhere you are and you look at
your life in a year's time andyou really feel into your body,
does that feel comfortable inyour body?
It doesn't feel comfortable inmine.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
No me neither.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, it doesn't feel comfortable in mine.
So the choice is getuncomfortable for a little bit
here, so that I can have evenmore comfort in my body and more
peace and more joy and more allthe things that I desire,
because I'm in a higheralignment with myself.
It's not that I'm not unhappywith my life right now, because
I'm in a higher alignment withmyself.
It's not that I'm not unhappywith my life right now, my life
is really fucking good.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's that, but is that my?
Is this where I'm?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
stuck in stagnant here it would not feel good for
me to stay here forever, right,and so the next piece, right.
Then we have to look at like isit worth for you listening into
this?
Is it worth moving through thediscomfort that you're going to
have to move through right nowto step into being the person
who actually creates theirdreams and allows yourself to be
in the room to do like, do thehealth things, to do the
(25:01):
relationship things, to reallyface the stuff that you're not
facing and make the shifts andchanges, create the new habits
so that you get to live in yourdreams?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
because it's not a matter of like.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
One day it just shows up.
It's a matter of smallincremental choices and
decisions to show up foryourself over time.
That puts you into.
All of a sudden you're juststanding there, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And I think this is that like goes back to that
discussion of suffering too islike to stay in the same
familiar discomfort is like thedefinition of suffering, you
know, like to choose the painover and over and over again,
versus choosing the unknowndiscomfort for the potential of
something different.
Yeah, it's like that's growthor suffering.
(25:43):
Which way do you want to treatthe current discomfort?
I know what I'm going to do.
Over and over and over again,and I'm lucky that I've gotten
the opportunity to see everysingle freaking time.
It's growth, it's ease it, itopens into something.
Never have I chosen to face thediscomfort and then find myself
(26:06):
in a worse, more painful,collapsed situation.
You know like it always leadsto expansion.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
If I can see myself through the nervous system,
integration of something new,right, yeah, Um, all right, I
know we want to keep this to atime, so do we have any?
Any other last questions youwant to ask me?
Um?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
just your final thoughts, Like what is kind of
your summarized takeaway fromthe amazing opportunity and
experience to see what yournervous system is doing in your,
I mean like literally it's areflection of your next level.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It is, it is and it's exciting, and I'm going to sit
here on this podcast and reallydeclaim, claim this, that like,
if this is you and you know thatyou're wanting support from
understanding what it's like tohave a really successful life,
like financially successful life, but not feel the pleasure, the
joy, the love, the other thingsthat you actually want, cause
you're feeling empty and deadinside, right, even if you don't
want to admit that to yourselfright now, I'd start to say that
(27:03):
you should probably admit thatto yourself.
I always say it's like you lookreally successful on the.
I know that I'm really fuckinggood at it and I know that I can
help you.
Yeah, number two um, my overalltake there's a few overall
takes is one have the fuckingcourage to go into the places,
(27:25):
whether it's love, whether it'sbusiness, whether it's your
health.
Have the fucking courage to gointo the places that feel really
uncomfortable and to do thingswhen you don't know.
Like I had no idea.
I just I didn't even know wewere staying.
I got the like Airbnb that day.
I was like, okay, I'm justshowing up, right, I'm just
showing the fuck up and that'sit.
That's what life is about.
(27:46):
Show the fuck up, right.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And, um, the other piece is don't be attached to
like this is the other part,Like don't be attached to an
outcome to it either.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, so it's this or something better Like this to
me put me into a space thatit's like maybe something
amazing come out of this.
Yeah, this room, these people,whatever, or maybe this was just
the launching pad for me to go.
Yeah, I'm totally worthy and Ihad to go through this
experience like an opportunityfor your nervous system to
experience something just tothis yeah right, yeah, and and
(28:17):
that in that, like I've beenoffered I will say this and
maybe this will be anotherconversation we should have
another time.
Actually, it's been offered acontract I haven't talked to you
about this yet um, to work withthem.
Yeah, and there's some thingsin the contract that I'm like I
don't know if I'm in alignmentwith this.
Yeah, and and I think it'sreally fucking amazing when you
can walk into a space that yougo this is amazing and I thought
(28:37):
this is my absolute fuckingdream, but maybe it's not right
and to have the empowereddecision and the empowered
choice to look at things from anot dreamy carrot in front of
you perspective, that goes, ohmy God, because this is the
first thing that shows up andit's so amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I'm, I have to grab it.
It's going to be the be all endall.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, it's the first of who knows?
They've been relationships, bythe way, right.
Which is this is the lesson,right?
Right, it's been throughrelationships that I've learned
this and finally, I was likewait a minute, the same thing in
business.
Yes, I don't have to, and I canlook at this from a really
fucking smart perspective andsee those little red flags,
those little one degree nuancesthat are like that's not a
hundred percent right.
(29:15):
And if it's not a hundredpercent right, I have the choice
to say no yeah.
Yes, even though it looks sofricking, shiny and beautiful
from the outside.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, Fantasy can create a lot of illusions.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah.
And so I think, in anyopportunity that we have and
this can happen in investing inlove, in business and all these
different ways where we get intoshiny object territory and we
don't listen to our nervoussystem and we don't pay
attention to what our bodies aresaying to us, yeah, then that's
when we get ourselves intotrouble.
And so for me, it's like I hadto come home and I had to be
(29:50):
able to be like how do Iintegrate this into my nervous
system, how do I really feelabout this home?
And I had to be able to be likehow do I integrate this into my
nervous system, how do I reallyfeel about this?
How do I look at this from alogical perspective, not just
from the carrot daydream that'sso possible.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
The gambler right, like yeah, I mean, like that's
how, at least for me personally,I've been through the
situations where I have damnnear lost everything because
that shiny carrot that the youknow looks exciting and not
really being practical andlistening to the deep wisdom
that's available in all of it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So yeah, live and learn, live and learn, live and
learn.
And because we've talked aboutwealth calibration, I will say
you guys, I am a hundred percent, I'm going to run this again.
Okay, I'm not going to say ahundred percent, maybe I'm going
to say 95%, because it gives mymanifestor ass a way out.
But this manifestor ass, Ithink for the first time ever,
is going to actually run aprogram again.
(30:42):
Nice, don't, don't Nice.
I think she's going to actuallyrun a program again, yes.
So if this is exciting to you,do reach out to me, let me know,
and then, when I open doors,I'll let you know, because this
is truly um.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm so you know you've got access to my
generator motor to like push itthrough.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So we're doing it again, awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Thank you for sharing that.
I think that that's a.
There's a lot of wisdom in allof that.
So thank you for being, youknow, honest and vulnerable
about what it's like to stepinto the unknown and what it
takes to to up level, like inall areas of life.
Much love, yes, and we will seeyou on the next episode.
(31:26):
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