December 10, 2024 • 34 mins
Vivian Shapiro discusses her journey to discovering her vibrant nature and the creation of her book "Go Vibrant." She shares her experiences with a self-publishing program and the essence of journaling in self-discovery. The episode includes a poem reading from the book and insights into its structure. Vivian encourages reader participation and highlights the importance of book reviews. She talks about writing to your future self, different book formats, and introduces her other works. LS Kirkpatrick's approach to book profits is also touched upon, along with finding peace and growth through pain. The episode concludes with gratitude and promoting the podcast website.
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COVID to do while they were doing nothing.
She was a teacher, but she wasn't in schoolsand bored and want to do tutoring for kids who
basically felt they couldn't cope with thatwhole online learning and education.
And we have a book for you with Vivian.
We're so glad you're here.
Tell us a little bit about yourself and whatyou do.
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Hi.
I am so really delighted to be on here withyou.
I just gotten to know you and I already loveyour energy, so I think we've got something
happening here.
So I'm really excited to talk about my actualsolo book.
I've done some collaborative books, but my solobook, which got to be a bestseller on Amazon,
and it's called Go Vibrant.
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And it's the notes and anecdotes on loving andliving the joie de vivre, which means joy.
But it's got my little name in there.
So it's kinda I like that.
Take off on that.
And I was very excited about writing this book.
And, so there it is, nice flashy cover.
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And and where do you want me to start?
Well, let's start a little bit where the ideafor the book came from.
Okay.
That's that's cool.
It's actually a cool thing that happened to me.
So, basically, you all remember when COVIDstarted?
Those magic words of COVID.
And I was stuck at home with a lovely man.
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He's my my husband and he's a very lovely man,but I didn't realize that staying 24 hours a
day in the same place with him would be allabout news and sports.
And that's all it would be all day long prettywell.
I'm a very, very active woman, and I could tellyou a little bit about myself later.
Super active.
I think this light is a bit too blurry here.
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And, I decided I needed to do something.
So I am artistic.
I painted before.
I've written lots of poems, etcetera, etcetera,wrapped around.
What could I do to make this period of time,which was pretty devastating for everybody?
What can I do to make it more positive?
I'm a super positive person.
That's what the book is a lot about.
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Go vibrant.
Like, find your vibrancy in you.
And I decided I needed to find something, butnothing was coming to me.
But something magical happened.
So a friend of mine who actually, she was I wasa principal, formerly my life, in a school, and
I hired a teacher who I hadn't seen in 15years.
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And she called me out of the blue because shewas looking for tutoring jobs.
Everybody was looking for something else duringCOVID to do while they were doing nothing.
She was a teacher, but she wasn't in schoolsand bored and wanted to do tutoring for kids
who basically felt they couldn't cope with thatwhole online learning and education.
So at that time, the like, COVID had beenalready a year, and they were loosening up some
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of the restrictions.
And you can have 3 people in your home orsomething like that.
So I said, well, you know what?
I will help you, but I haven't seen you in 15years.
Come over.
So she came over.
We had a nice chat and tea and whatever.
But she said to me this this is what did thefor me.
She said to me, Vivian, I can't believe youhaven't changed in all these years.
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Like, how do you stay so vibrant?
How do you stay full of so much energy that youhad 15, 20, 30 years ago?
And honestly so, Ellis, what really came to methere is that, I get this a lot by a lot of
people.
So I am now 79.
I just turned it a few days ago.
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And I just feel that I've never given up thatjoy of living.
And but I never had an explanation for it.
She said, how do you do it?
What's your magic sauce?
And all of a sudden, this came into me aboutmaybe that's what I should write about.
Maybe I need to find my magic sauce and writeabout what it is so I can impart it to others
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to sort of, you know, kick themselves in theass and get themselves going when they're in a
funk blah blah blah.
And that's when the idea came to me.
And it was crazy because that very, very sothis was the afternoon.
That very late afternoon, I got a message froma group that I belong to that has nothing to do
with writing books at all Oh.
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Saying that a good friend of theirs was, anauthor.
His name is Chandler Bolt, and he runs aprogram called self publishing.
I know Chandler.
He would like to find people who are interestedin writing books.
It's very afternoon.
People who are writing books because he'sstarted this company that is coaching and
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helping people write their first time book.
And it's a free seminar for an hour.
And then if you think that it's something foryou, you know, you join.
So I went on and it was really it was like Ifound my home.
Because as a principal of a school, I reallyknew what I wanted my school to look like,
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sound like, feel like, and I knew, you know, wehad a a great camaraderie with the teachers to
really make the feeling of the ambiance well.
And I knew what I would need as a teacher toteach me, and this guy had it all.
So I, like, I signed up that night.
And it was a little bit of money, but it wasworth it.
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It was worth the coaching and everything.
And then it was like my hand wouldn't stop.
It's like I became so focused in this book.
I was writing away and writing away, and I Igot the vision from the word vibrant.
So I have a little poem.
Can I read it to you?
Oh, definitely.
Okay.
So this poem is in my book, and it was kind ofwhat got started got me started.
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And it's called whoops.
It's called I had a vision.
And this was true.
This happened on kind of, like, the wholesynergy part, the whole, like, somebody coming
down from the universe talking to me.
So this is my poem.
I had a vision that vibrance came to me andthis is what she whispered in my ear.
I am vibrance.
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Who am I?
I am 1 and I am many ignited by flames ofvisions, of visualizations, of verve and
vitality, loving to dance and frolic in thecolors of life.
I breathe in intensity and breathe out passion.
I'm authentically alive.
I live with and through both pain and pleasure.
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I live in the playgrounds of positivity.
I usually sorry.
I essentially seize each day.
I will refresh you, help you feel resilient,help you feel alive with love, life, light, and
laughter.
I offer invitations to all to drink a fullglass of my sweet sensation, stir it soulfully
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so you may be fulfilled by its magic secrets.
And, fortunately, I listened well.
So that vision, I had to write about it rightaway, came to me like like it was like a form
that sort of surrounded me.
And I thought I'm going to write about beingvibrant.
And then I kind of envisioned and saw the bookbefore I even wrote it, which was a book filled
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with chapters of bibrant.
So for instance, the first chapter well, thefirst chapter told a little bit about my life
and about some entanglement that I finally gotout of, which is with my my first husband and,
became dysfunctional after 28 years.
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And so the first part deals with me getting outand all of a sudden being free to be me, that
part.
And then it deals with very many differentsegments of my life, not in any chronological
order, but segments of my life where my magicsauce seemed to be under v, which I had some
words with v, like be a visionary, create yourvibe, practice visualization, all the v words
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that I found that I was doing, and then an Ichapter, a b chapter, an r chapter a, n, and t,
and then the final conclusion.
And how did I find out my magic sauce?
Because, honestly, when people used to say tome, how are you so vibrant?
Like, how do how do you how do you do that?
I used to say, just live life.
That was my pat answer.
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But it wasn't enough.
It wasn't enough.
And I had to find, okay, truly, madly, deeply,what what is it about me?
Oh, yes.
Thank you for remembering.
Yeah.
So, basically, what I had to do is find outwhat my magic sauce was and where was I gonna
find that.
So I write journals all the time.
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I've been writing them, like, since I was in myteenage years, but even more so prolifically
when I was an adult.
And, like, this is my last one and it's, youknow, people give me presents all the time in
journals.
So they're every size, every color ever.
I I I'm starting to learn that in all
of my journals.
I never journaled before.
Didn't like them.
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You know?
It's like, yeah.
I can't do that every day.
How boring.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Once you start it.
And I don't do it every day, LS.
I basically do it when the mood suits me.
I do try to do gratitudes every day, but that'sa different little book.
Right.
Right.
This is more like when I have a feeling that Iwanna talk about.
So my journals evolved over the time.
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And, basically, I would say the last 30 yearswere more expressions of feelings, thoughts.
I was going through a really bad time with myex, over 30 years ago.
And, there was, like, some really, you know,emotional scrunching times that I wrote in
there that I didn't gotten what I said.
And then just moments of where I felt this orfelt that or had epiphanies or whatever.
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And then there was a little bit about a trip,but it wasn't like the today we did this, today
we did that.
Right.
Right.
Like, in the old days when you wrote a journalwith a key and you wrote about your best friend
and what you did and how she took yourboyfriend or whatever.
So it wasn't about that.
And so what I decided to do, which I had neverdone before, I had about 40 of them or more
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lined up, because not just 1 per year.
And I dug them out.
We just moved recently, so I had them all.
I found them all, and they were in a big box.
And I took them out, and I took little postits.
And I would read about myself as if I wasn't mereading what I said, like, from here.
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And I'd say, wow.
You showed such resilience there.
So I put the word resilience on an orange andresilience.
Lead.
And every time I saw that I was resilient oranything with an r, like, I was I was roaring
out loud.
Like, I just roared out loud my mission, and Isaid roaring and whatever it was.
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And at the very end of 40 journals that I readso that was my research.
That's like an author doing research, but I'mresearching myself.
I found that there were enough words thatstarted with v's and i's and b's and r and a
and t to actually make a chapter.
So the story in the chapter, like, let's takethe v chapter.
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I found out that I wrote stories about myselfas a little kid in my journal, things that I
remembered because it it like, for instance,just to give you an example, when I was a
principal and starting principal of a school,I, I envisioned a school with a lot of arts
based programming.
And this is before that was actually a thing.
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And so I hired teachers who each had differentskills artistically as well as being anybody
can teach academics.
But the arts is something different.
So the school became an arts based curriculum.
And, and and teachers were sent to the schoolto see what I was doing by integrating all this
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stuff.
It became a big thing.
And then they started a school for the arts.
Right?
They started a school for the arts.
So, which I wasn't the principal of, but I wasprincipal of this wonderful school.
But you
had the idea and you got it going.
That's awesome.
Yes.
Thank you.
And I visualized it long before I became thatprincipal.
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Like, as a teacher, I my classroom was run thatway.
So in remembering that I visualized, thatwasn't a story in my journal.
That was just a memory.
I remembered that as a kid, I already used tovisualize.
And that's the story I had written in thejournal, being being a per a kid who visualized
things, you know, better or more important thanthey were, Like, already seeing things ahead of
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time.
So that story is in the book, in the chapter ofthe and then I I express my thoughts on how
people should allow themselves to visualize andallow to see things greater than what they are
and get them out of ruts.
Like, visualize what would it be if life werebetter, etcetera, etcetera.
Because, you know, you know, the whole storythat it feeds the brain and the brain tells the
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body then how to respond, etcetera.
I was just studying on that today.
Just before we met, in my group, we're talkingabout mindset, and we were talk listening to
Bob Proctor, and we're listening to Jim Rohn.
And they were saying that exact same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And later in life, they were my gurus.
But at the time, when I was being I didn't knowwho they were.
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Then I searched I sought them out.
Right?
Yeah.
So that's what I did.
I went through over 40 of these lovely things,and I got such a hoot.
I I, like, I didn't re and I wrote so manypoems.
So this book here is one of my books, and everypoem is is, like because I'm gonna make just a
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poem book eventually with just those poems init.
It's so great.
I'll send those poems in my journal.
Like, I went, I wrote that?
I was very impressed with myself.
Well and you should be.
You really should be because it's amazing.
I don't think we give ourselves enough creditfor how amazing and wonderful we are.
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I do wanna ask you something about your campus.
Now some people still may not understand, and Iknow I'm just learning because I only really
found out about it last year, well, 2022, abouta journal and started learning more about what
it is.
So when you wrote in your journal, you say youdon't write, well, today I did this, or my best
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friend, I wish you would do that, and thenmaybe we can do this.
That is on what journaling is about.
In in your words, give us just a brief synopsisof what it means to write in your journal.
Okay.
And this is an easy one, and I just thought ofthis the other day.
I was taking a shower, and our minds don't stopin a shower.
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We're either making our list of things to do,what to remember, but, also, oftentimes and we
don't listen to ourself.
Oftentimes, we are telling ourselves things howwe feel.
Like, for instance, this didn't happen.
I'm just saying.
For instance, you're in the shower and you'reshowering yourself and said, I've really gotta
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get in touch with Sharon.
I really feel that the last time I was withher, something was wrong, and she didn't seem
to, you know, be with me or there was somethinggoing on, and I didn't ask her what it was,
blah blah blah blah blah.
That's the stuff you write about.
The stuff where you're who was the author?
Oh my gosh.
I don't have his book right here.
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But he writes about the the something mind, theunfiltered mind.
I forget the name of the book.
It's, it's the mind that doesn't filter becauseit's constantly thinking.
And those are the thoughts that sometimes needto be be revisited.
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So or let's say you're mad at your husband.
Right?
And you're saying, I don't know if I can go onlike this for 10 more years.
Like, there's something I need to do.
Either I need to do it or I need to talk tohim.
So that goes in the journal.
Like, today, I'm I'm really feeling out ofsorts.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah or your happytimes.
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The other thing I do in my journal is I do newsflashes.
So as soon as there's something interestingabout we have between Roland and I, we have 5
adult children with 5 adult spouses.
And between them, there's 13 grandchildren.
So sometimes I'll do a news flash where I justthis I just say news flash, and I put my son's
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name, Jody.
And I say, you know, something about what hedid with his restaurant and how proud I am of
him.
Or or if he needs help, I say, you know, Jody,he's really depressed lately.
I don't know what I can do to help him becausehe has his wife, but I'll keep an eye on him.
Something like that.
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Okay.
Justice today I today.
And it makes it much more exciting to do.
I don't do it every day.
I don't do it every day.
But I'll show you, like, in this one wherethere's a whole bunch of pace papers now
because I haven't finished.
Well, then I leave gaps.
I start something and I don't finish, andthat's fine.
It just never gets finished.
It just but, and then, you know, I wrote a poemabout a dog, and then it's it's all over the
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map.
And then I I I did a new word of the day that Ihappened to hear.
Oh, wow.
Wrote that down, and the word is So it's allover the map, and and all of them seem to be
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like this.
And sometimes I write in circles and, you know,whatever.
And now we just went on this trip to Mex or toJapan, so I did wanna remember, basically, the
days.
So I did do that.
You know, one of those daily type of things.
So that goes in there.
But I don't spend it on the special eventthing.
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You know?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I tried so what did I try doing?
Like, in my journal, I tried writing Japanesebecause that's, like, what I had to do that
day.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
So it's just a it's a I think when I whenpeople ask me, you know, what should I do in a
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journal?
I say everything and anything.
I don't limit it to just a diary.
It's not a diary.
It's a journal.
And the journal is your travels, like your ownbodily mind, spiritual travels
Yeah.
That you can what's going on.
About yourself.
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Yeah.
It's fun.
I I went away to Mexico, just came back andbrought my journal, and I didn't write at all.
I I was so busy.
I didn't write at all.
But I saved little things that I thought about,like, they're on little pay pieces of paper,
and I'll put them in because I don't wanna Idon't wanna forget.
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Yeah.
Like, for instance, we went with anothercouple.
We'd never traveled with them.
And I keep writing down how lovely ourfriendship is and how well we're getting along.
And I wanna write that, how important it is tohave friends that you can travel with.
So I will dedicate a page to that.
Oh, that's really cool.
Yeah.
Those are
some science.
Thank you.
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Yeah.
Sometimes the journals are your pain.
You're putting your pain down.
You know?
But then you gotta get a lot of your joy inthere too.
Yeah.
Well, and it gives you a place to take thatpain and take it out of you and set it down
somewhere safe, shall I say, somewhere thatyou're not hurting anybody else, and it's not
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continually hurting you by carrying it in you,and it's there.
And then you can decide what to do with itlater.
You know?
That's right.
That's Absolutely.
You just hit the nail on the whatever is theexpression that you put.
You hit the hammer on the nail.
Nailed it.
That's you nailed it.
You nailed it.
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That's the expression.
Yeah.
I'm you know what?
As I grow older, I forget expressions.
I also forget words.
That's alright.
It all keeps life interesting.
I I I with the way my brain works from the timeI was very young, I would just get so excited
about things or I would be so intense aboutthings or I would just be, you know, whatever.
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And it stayed with me.
I was talking with a friend of mine and talkingabout my aunt and it's like, I really love my
aunt.
And he goes, oh, what's your aunt's name?
How silly is that?
You talk about embarrassing, of course, thenyou get embarrassed, so there's no way you're
gonna think of it.
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And I was like, shit.
And then 5 minutes later, you're I don't knowwhat a name is.
Yeah.
And then you remember, like, 5, 10 minuteslater.
Right?
Like, awful.
I didn't.
I think it was 2 weeks later before I couldremember because I was concentrating so hard on
it.
I was so embarrassed, and I finally didn'tremember.
I was like, well, too late now.
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But I got to all my kids.
I said, you're never gonna know when I'm senilebecause I'm this way now.
It's not gonna be any
That's me.
That's me.
I've been like this all my life.
No.
I see pictures of of children up there.
Is that under your
This is is my my oldest sister, my olderbrother, and my sister just older than me, and
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I was not even a twinkle in my father's eyes.
I was gonna say it looks like an older fat oldfashioned picture, like, not one today.
Yeah.
Like,
I know our kids are
kids won't be very fast.
Yeah.
You know?
And and this one's got just a little bit ofcolor to it because that was a really big deal
back then, you know, and and you take it blackand white that you can colorize it.
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And so it was, yeah.
It was I was saying to my mother once.
There was a picture of me when I was 4, and Iwas maybe 8 or 10 when I said this.
And I said, why did I have such beautiful rosycheeks then?
Because I got painted on.
Yep.
Yeah.
It even looks like I had lipstick on.
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We really need to talk about your book.
We're respectful of our audience.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So show
us your book again and tell us the title andwhere they can buy it.
Okay.
Well, that's an easy buy.
So it's called go vibrant, and then there'sthis little, you know, subtitle, which is, now
I forget what it says.
Now now it's an anecdote on loving and livingthe joie de vivre, which is French term for joy
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of life and by Vivian Shapiro.
So it's it's not it's an easy read.
And what I will tell you, Ellis, is that what Idecided to do, and I guess it's the teacher in
me, is I have, like, little workbook thingsinside of Nice.
And people don't wanna mess up the book.
There's a QR code where they can actuallydownload the papers to do the exercises and
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keep, like, a little journal themself.
Nice.
So they can create a little journal by, likeand the exercises don't come at any time.
In particular, just sort of when I feel likeit.
You know?
Just when I feel like it, it pops up in thebook that when it makes sense, when it aligns
with what I'm talking about.
And the other thing that I did just to make itdifferent is every chapter has its set of
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affirmations.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Based on what we talked about.
So this one was the b chapter.
I am a beautiful being.
I am bold.
I am brave.
I believe I can accomplish anything I set mymind to doing.
And people can choose to use that as theiraffirmations or add things that are b words.
You know, it's kind of like a little bit of achallenge for them.
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Wonderful.
So that's what I do.
And at the end, I I, ask everybody to write aletter to themselves, to their future life.
I I show them the one that I did, and I say,there's nothing like writing a letter to your
future self thanking your past self for doingcertain things to get to your future self.
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So there's an example of that, and then there'sa little template where you can actually write
the letter.
And then you open it up, like, 5 years later,which is you at that age that you're writing
to.
And then you see, oh, I did do that, and I didhelp this, and I did change my bitchy ways and
whatever is that you have to say.
And the the last jabber is fun.
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It's it's called life is like a box ofanalogies that take off on for its mouth
because everything can be compared everythingin nature, everything Yes.
You know, what you do can be compared.
So I compare life.
Life is like a bunch of intersections, likedriving in intersections.
And then I do, life is like a light bulb, andthen I explain it.
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So I also encourage authors, fellow authors,and fellow readers to actually write their own
analogy.
What to them is life like?
Is it like a monopoly game?
Is it like, you know, a lampshade?
I don't know.
So, few people have actually written to metheir stories, which has been fun.
Oh, that's in their circle.
Checklist at the end.
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That's a fun book.
Checklist at the end to say, you know, are youor are you becoming a a visionary?
Do Do you have a unique vibe?
Do you practice visualization?
And the idea is to keep a check on yourself tosee how many of those things you can get to
live a vibrant life.
So it's not just a reading book.
It's it's a very easy book to read.
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I've had wonderful reviews, thank goodness,from everybody who has been reading it.
I don't get enough reviews.
You know how that happens.
Right?
Like like, over 500 people have actually readthe book or the Kindle, but there's 38 reviews.
Yeah.
So that's that's the thing you've gotta beafter.
And that's why I'm going now to a marketingcompany because somebody said to me and I was
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very flattered by this because I only thoughtthis was a cute little book leaving a legacy
for my family.
That's what I thought.
But more and more people have read it and havetold me, and I'm I'm trying to be humble when I
say this, but have told me, you know what?
Everybody should read your book.
It's a kick ass book.
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It's it's full of, like, authenticity.
I feel like you're my friend talking to me, andso there have been really nice reviews.
So my coach from my first time writing whenhe's not my coach anymore.
He said to me, okay, Viv.
You know, you've gotta market this book.
You've gotta get it going.
So thank you for helping me share this withmore people in the world.
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Oh, definitely.
Definitely.
And I love what you said about writing aletter, the award I have there through life on
fire.
That was one of the things they said.
Write a letter today to your future self 1 yearfrom now about all the great things you're
going to accomplish.
And then but I like that you added thank youfor accomplishing this.
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Thank you for doing that.
I really like that you added that part to it.
And it's a really great idea.
It was the weirdest thing I ever heard.
It's like, how am I gonna write a letter to myfuture self when I don't even know what I'm
gonna do yet?
Yeah.
Where did you do that?
With in which It was called Life
on Fire with Nick and Megan Edsworth.
Okay.
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I don't know them because it sounded almostlike a Tony Robbins thing too.
Oh.
That kind of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He asked me to do
those no doubt about him this Yeah.
Oh.
Last couple
of years too.
I went to a 4 day conference with him and thatsuper changed my life.
Really?
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Very magical moment there.
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Alright.
So is your book an ebook and paperback?
Yes.
Thank you.
So it's on it's Kindle version.
Yeah.
Ebook.
Okay.
And, it's also in paperback on Amazon, and youjust have to do go vibrant.
If it doesn't come out, sometimes they'rethey're just grabbing some piece of cloth or
something on there.
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You you just say Go Vibrant book, and it comesup.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds great.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm excited.
I definitely want to go get it now.
Great.
Thank you, Ellis.
Opportunity.
Side.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And and just for those who are wondering if shehas any other books, she is in the book The
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Change.
Yes.
Yes.
I don't have my Yeah.
Yeah.
This one, hers is coming out, but it'll besimilar.
And and we have 2 gems.
So you have more.
And not your collaborative one.
Are they all all on Amazon under your authorname?
Yes.
I think when you go into my name and you seethat, it says other books by.
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Oh, good.
Good.
Yep.
And and I've got a very cute little poetrybook, but there's only 3 of my poems.
So I'm hoping to produce one with just mypoetry one day.
I think this is fabulous idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be But
it's just you know why, really, that I wanna dothat?
So that they're all in one place.
There you go.
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I love that.
So it's something my kids can go through andread them all and not find them in, like, 95
different journals or papers that are lyingaround.
That's that's actually really brilliant.
Is is to bring them all together and put themin That's published a book.
And it looks like you're a vocifer I can't evensay the word vociferous reader from
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Well, yeah.
And I've got 34 books of my own.
So You have 34 that
you've done yourself?
Well, I have have 17 that are are specificallymine.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, I have to read that.
The book is giving.
I get no profit off it.
Any books that I sell or that are sold onAmazon, all the profit goes to a nonprofit
entity because I wanted everything about thatbook to be about giving.
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That's why I don't even charge the authors tobe in a into your book.
And and you have to give back.
You can't just take all the time.
You have to give back.
And so this is a very I
totally agree.
I I agree.
Like, I sure didn't go into that one for themoney because it's you know?
I did it because I was hoping I had first ofall, just little legacy.
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But as I got in time and people were tellingme, I am hoping I can leave a little impact on
people who are are suffering, are are too muchinvolved in the, the sadness or the Right.
The bad times in their life and need to crawlout of that and see what there is out there
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before it's too late.
Right?
Being a woman of faith, I I read in my biblethe other day that it says and I've heard this
verse before, but I never really understood thedepth of it.
And it's about being content where you are.
And somebody said to me one time, well, ifyou're content, that means you're never gonna
get out of it.
You're always gonna stay that way.
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So you always wanna be like this.
And it's like and I knew that is what the versemeant.
And I finally figured out to be content is tobe at peace in yourself no matter what the
situation is.
Because that's the way I was growing up.
I was always happy.
It didn't matter what was going on.
It's like, well, you know, life goes on.
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You just keep going on with it until I gotinvolved with relationships I knew I shouldn't
have, but I wanted to be like everybody else inthe world.
You know?
Those dumb kids.
Those thoughts that go in your mind.
And and it's like, I want to be that person Iwas again.
And that's through all of this process, though,I found out that being content in every
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situation just means you're at peace inyourself.
So you can get out of it.
So you can move forward.
So you can grow.
You can get better.
But why not do it?
Just being happy.
And it and it's not like a happy pill oranything.
It's that deep peace that's inside of you thatit's like, yeah, it's tough, but I know it's
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not gonna last forever.
Or I know I can get out of it.
Even though I don't know how right now, I knowit is possible.
That's exactly.
Ex yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like and nobody's ever, what's the word?
When you get down on someone.
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So you don't get down on someone becausethey're unhappy, blah blah blah, because they
have to go through that.
Right?
The pain has to happen.
Sometimes pain brings you to a power placeafterwards if you can do it.
The key is to know you're not gonna be thereforever.
Yep.
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You know?
That's the key.
And then how do you get moved politely forwardto different options in your life?
And that's and that's like you said, you know,I mean, you talked about, you know, just being
content, being positive, being finding otherthings in life that aren't just always about
you or your own, like, trouble or whatever isgoing on in your life.
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You just have to do that.
Yeah.
You need a lot of people in the world like us.
That's right.
That's right.
For sure.
Thank you so much for being on the
show today.
You, LS.
Just I really enjoyed this.
Sorry.
We we kind of kept cycling, but it's okay.
I hope you can clip what you need.
Oh, yeah.
That's all good.
That's all good.
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This
is how we are, you know.
That's right.
Right.
But but you got.
Oh, and thank you our audience for being here.
We really hope we brought a lot of value to youtoday and that you can carry it through.
Be sure and check out Vivian's book.
It's vibrant.
I love all the energy and everything that wentinto it.
(34:28):
And I look forward to your poetry book.
Definitely, I'm gonna have to look at yourother books.
So we'll see you next time.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you next time on Reading Between theWords.
Go to www.readybetweenthewords.com.
COVID to do while they were doing nothing.
She was a teacher, but she wasn't in schoolsand bored and want to do tutoring for kids who
basically felt they couldn't cope with thatwhole online learning and education.
And we have a book for you with Vivian.
We're so glad you're here.
Tell us a little bit about yourself and whatyou do.
(00:21):
Hi.
I am so really delighted to be on here withyou.
I just gotten to know you and I already loveyour energy, so I think we've got something
happening here.
So I'm really excited to talk about my actualsolo book.
I've done some collaborative books, but my solobook, which got to be a bestseller on Amazon,
and it's called Go Vibrant.
(00:43):
And it's the notes and anecdotes on loving andliving the joie de vivre, which means joy.
But it's got my little name in there.
So it's kinda I like that.
Take off on that.
And I was very excited about writing this book.
And, so there it is, nice flashy cover.
(01:04):
And and where do you want me to start?
Well, let's start a little bit where the ideafor the book came from.
Okay.
That's that's cool.
It's actually a cool thing that happened to me.
So, basically, you all remember when COVIDstarted?
Those magic words of COVID.
And I was stuck at home with a lovely man.
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He's my my husband and he's a very lovely man,but I didn't realize that staying 24 hours a
day in the same place with him would be allabout news and sports.
And that's all it would be all day long prettywell.
I'm a very, very active woman, and I could tellyou a little bit about myself later.
Super active.
I think this light is a bit too blurry here.
(01:45):
And, I decided I needed to do something.
So I am artistic.
I painted before.
I've written lots of poems, etcetera, etcetera,wrapped around.
What could I do to make this period of time,which was pretty devastating for everybody?
What can I do to make it more positive?
I'm a super positive person.
That's what the book is a lot about.
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Go vibrant.
Like, find your vibrancy in you.
And I decided I needed to find something, butnothing was coming to me.
But something magical happened.
So a friend of mine who actually, she was I wasa principal, formerly my life, in a school, and
I hired a teacher who I hadn't seen in 15years.
(02:26):
And she called me out of the blue because shewas looking for tutoring jobs.
Everybody was looking for something else duringCOVID to do while they were doing nothing.
She was a teacher, but she wasn't in schoolsand bored and wanted to do tutoring for kids
who basically felt they couldn't cope with thatwhole online learning and education.
So at that time, the like, COVID had beenalready a year, and they were loosening up some
(02:51):
of the restrictions.
And you can have 3 people in your home orsomething like that.
So I said, well, you know what?
I will help you, but I haven't seen you in 15years.
Come over.
So she came over.
We had a nice chat and tea and whatever.
But she said to me this this is what did thefor me.
She said to me, Vivian, I can't believe youhaven't changed in all these years.
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Like, how do you stay so vibrant?
How do you stay full of so much energy that youhad 15, 20, 30 years ago?
And honestly so, Ellis, what really came to methere is that, I get this a lot by a lot of
people.
So I am now 79.
I just turned it a few days ago.
(03:34):
And I just feel that I've never given up thatjoy of living.
And but I never had an explanation for it.
She said, how do you do it?
What's your magic sauce?
And all of a sudden, this came into me aboutmaybe that's what I should write about.
Maybe I need to find my magic sauce and writeabout what it is so I can impart it to others
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to sort of, you know, kick themselves in theass and get themselves going when they're in a
funk blah blah blah.
And that's when the idea came to me.
And it was crazy because that very, very sothis was the afternoon.
That very late afternoon, I got a message froma group that I belong to that has nothing to do
with writing books at all Oh.
(04:17):
Saying that a good friend of theirs was, anauthor.
His name is Chandler Bolt, and he runs aprogram called self publishing.
I know Chandler.
He would like to find people who are interestedin writing books.
It's very afternoon.
People who are writing books because he'sstarted this company that is coaching and
(04:38):
helping people write their first time book.
And it's a free seminar for an hour.
And then if you think that it's something foryou, you know, you join.
So I went on and it was really it was like Ifound my home.
Because as a principal of a school, I reallyknew what I wanted my school to look like,
(04:58):
sound like, feel like, and I knew, you know, wehad a a great camaraderie with the teachers to
really make the feeling of the ambiance well.
And I knew what I would need as a teacher toteach me, and this guy had it all.
So I, like, I signed up that night.
And it was a little bit of money, but it wasworth it.
(05:19):
It was worth the coaching and everything.
And then it was like my hand wouldn't stop.
It's like I became so focused in this book.
I was writing away and writing away, and I Igot the vision from the word vibrant.
So I have a little poem.
Can I read it to you?
Oh, definitely.
Okay.
So this poem is in my book, and it was kind ofwhat got started got me started.
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And it's called whoops.
It's called I had a vision.
And this was true.
This happened on kind of, like, the wholesynergy part, the whole, like, somebody coming
down from the universe talking to me.
So this is my poem.
I had a vision that vibrance came to me andthis is what she whispered in my ear.
I am vibrance.
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Who am I?
I am 1 and I am many ignited by flames ofvisions, of visualizations, of verve and
vitality, loving to dance and frolic in thecolors of life.
I breathe in intensity and breathe out passion.
I'm authentically alive.
I live with and through both pain and pleasure.
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I live in the playgrounds of positivity.
I usually sorry.
I essentially seize each day.
I will refresh you, help you feel resilient,help you feel alive with love, life, light, and
laughter.
I offer invitations to all to drink a fullglass of my sweet sensation, stir it soulfully
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so you may be fulfilled by its magic secrets.
And, fortunately, I listened well.
So that vision, I had to write about it rightaway, came to me like like it was like a form
that sort of surrounded me.
And I thought I'm going to write about beingvibrant.
And then I kind of envisioned and saw the bookbefore I even wrote it, which was a book filled
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with chapters of bibrant.
So for instance, the first chapter well, thefirst chapter told a little bit about my life
and about some entanglement that I finally gotout of, which is with my my first husband and,
became dysfunctional after 28 years.
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And so the first part deals with me getting outand all of a sudden being free to be me, that
part.
And then it deals with very many differentsegments of my life, not in any chronological
order, but segments of my life where my magicsauce seemed to be under v, which I had some
words with v, like be a visionary, create yourvibe, practice visualization, all the v words
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that I found that I was doing, and then an Ichapter, a b chapter, an r chapter a, n, and t,
and then the final conclusion.
And how did I find out my magic sauce?
Because, honestly, when people used to say tome, how are you so vibrant?
Like, how do how do you how do you do that?
I used to say, just live life.
That was my pat answer.
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But it wasn't enough.
It wasn't enough.
And I had to find, okay, truly, madly, deeply,what what is it about me?
Oh, yes.
Thank you for remembering.
Yeah.
So, basically, what I had to do is find outwhat my magic sauce was and where was I gonna
find that.
So I write journals all the time.
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I've been writing them, like, since I was in myteenage years, but even more so prolifically
when I was an adult.
And, like, this is my last one and it's, youknow, people give me presents all the time in
journals.
So they're every size, every color ever.
I I I'm starting to learn that in all
of my journals.
I never journaled before.
Didn't like them.
(08:59):
You know?
It's like, yeah.
I can't do that every day.
How boring.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Once you start it.
And I don't do it every day, LS.
I basically do it when the mood suits me.
I do try to do gratitudes every day, but that'sa different little book.
Right.
Right.
This is more like when I have a feeling that Iwanna talk about.
So my journals evolved over the time.
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And, basically, I would say the last 30 yearswere more expressions of feelings, thoughts.
I was going through a really bad time with myex, over 30 years ago.
And, there was, like, some really, you know,emotional scrunching times that I wrote in
there that I didn't gotten what I said.
And then just moments of where I felt this orfelt that or had epiphanies or whatever.
(09:47):
And then there was a little bit about a trip,but it wasn't like the today we did this, today
we did that.
Right.
Right.
Like, in the old days when you wrote a journalwith a key and you wrote about your best friend
and what you did and how she took yourboyfriend or whatever.
So it wasn't about that.
And so what I decided to do, which I had neverdone before, I had about 40 of them or more
(10:11):
lined up, because not just 1 per year.
And I dug them out.
We just moved recently, so I had them all.
I found them all, and they were in a big box.
And I took them out, and I took little postits.
And I would read about myself as if I wasn't mereading what I said, like, from here.
(10:33):
And I'd say, wow.
You showed such resilience there.
So I put the word resilience on an orange andresilience.
Lead.
And every time I saw that I was resilient oranything with an r, like, I was I was roaring
out loud.
Like, I just roared out loud my mission, and Isaid roaring and whatever it was.
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And at the very end of 40 journals that I readso that was my research.
That's like an author doing research, but I'mresearching myself.
I found that there were enough words thatstarted with v's and i's and b's and r and a
and t to actually make a chapter.
So the story in the chapter, like, let's takethe v chapter.
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I found out that I wrote stories about myselfas a little kid in my journal, things that I
remembered because it it like, for instance,just to give you an example, when I was a
principal and starting principal of a school,I, I envisioned a school with a lot of arts
based programming.
And this is before that was actually a thing.
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And so I hired teachers who each had differentskills artistically as well as being anybody
can teach academics.
But the arts is something different.
So the school became an arts based curriculum.
And, and and teachers were sent to the schoolto see what I was doing by integrating all this
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stuff.
It became a big thing.
And then they started a school for the arts.
Right?
They started a school for the arts.
So, which I wasn't the principal of, but I wasprincipal of this wonderful school.
But you
had the idea and you got it going.
That's awesome.
Yes.
Thank you.
And I visualized it long before I became thatprincipal.
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Like, as a teacher, I my classroom was run thatway.
So in remembering that I visualized, thatwasn't a story in my journal.
That was just a memory.
I remembered that as a kid, I already used tovisualize.
And that's the story I had written in thejournal, being being a per a kid who visualized
things, you know, better or more important thanthey were, Like, already seeing things ahead of
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time.
So that story is in the book, in the chapter ofthe and then I I express my thoughts on how
people should allow themselves to visualize andallow to see things greater than what they are
and get them out of ruts.
Like, visualize what would it be if life werebetter, etcetera, etcetera.
Because, you know, you know, the whole storythat it feeds the brain and the brain tells the
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body then how to respond, etcetera.
I was just studying on that today.
Just before we met, in my group, we're talkingabout mindset, and we were talk listening to
Bob Proctor, and we're listening to Jim Rohn.
And they were saying that exact same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And later in life, they were my gurus.
But at the time, when I was being I didn't knowwho they were.
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Then I searched I sought them out.
Right?
Yeah.
So that's what I did.
I went through over 40 of these lovely things,and I got such a hoot.
I I, like, I didn't re and I wrote so manypoems.
So this book here is one of my books, and everypoem is is, like because I'm gonna make just a
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poem book eventually with just those poems init.
It's so great.
I'll send those poems in my journal.
Like, I went, I wrote that?
I was very impressed with myself.
Well and you should be.
You really should be because it's amazing.
I don't think we give ourselves enough creditfor how amazing and wonderful we are.
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I do wanna ask you something about your campus.
Now some people still may not understand, and Iknow I'm just learning because I only really
found out about it last year, well, 2022, abouta journal and started learning more about what
it is.
So when you wrote in your journal, you say youdon't write, well, today I did this, or my best
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friend, I wish you would do that, and thenmaybe we can do this.
That is on what journaling is about.
In in your words, give us just a brief synopsisof what it means to write in your journal.
Okay.
And this is an easy one, and I just thought ofthis the other day.
I was taking a shower, and our minds don't stopin a shower.
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We're either making our list of things to do,what to remember, but, also, oftentimes and we
don't listen to ourself.
Oftentimes, we are telling ourselves things howwe feel.
Like, for instance, this didn't happen.
I'm just saying.
For instance, you're in the shower and you'reshowering yourself and said, I've really gotta
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get in touch with Sharon.
I really feel that the last time I was withher, something was wrong, and she didn't seem
to, you know, be with me or there was somethinggoing on, and I didn't ask her what it was,
blah blah blah blah blah.
That's the stuff you write about.
The stuff where you're who was the author?
Oh my gosh.
I don't have his book right here.
(15:45):
But he writes about the the something mind, theunfiltered mind.
I forget the name of the book.
It's, it's the mind that doesn't filter becauseit's constantly thinking.
And those are the thoughts that sometimes needto be be revisited.
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So or let's say you're mad at your husband.
Right?
And you're saying, I don't know if I can go onlike this for 10 more years.
Like, there's something I need to do.
Either I need to do it or I need to talk tohim.
So that goes in the journal.
Like, today, I'm I'm really feeling out ofsorts.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah or your happytimes.
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The other thing I do in my journal is I do newsflashes.
So as soon as there's something interestingabout we have between Roland and I, we have 5
adult children with 5 adult spouses.
And between them, there's 13 grandchildren.
So sometimes I'll do a news flash where I justthis I just say news flash, and I put my son's
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name, Jody.
And I say, you know, something about what hedid with his restaurant and how proud I am of
him.
Or or if he needs help, I say, you know, Jody,he's really depressed lately.
I don't know what I can do to help him becausehe has his wife, but I'll keep an eye on him.
Something like that.
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Okay.
Justice today I today.
And it makes it much more exciting to do.
I don't do it every day.
I don't do it every day.
But I'll show you, like, in this one wherethere's a whole bunch of pace papers now
because I haven't finished.
Well, then I leave gaps.
I start something and I don't finish, andthat's fine.
It just never gets finished.
It just but, and then, you know, I wrote a poemabout a dog, and then it's it's all over the
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map.
And then I I I did a new word of the day that Ihappened to hear.
Oh, wow.
Wrote that down, and the word is So it's allover the map, and and all of them seem to be
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like this.
And sometimes I write in circles and, you know,whatever.
And now we just went on this trip to Mex or toJapan, so I did wanna remember, basically, the
days.
So I did do that.
You know, one of those daily type of things.
So that goes in there.
But I don't spend it on the special eventthing.
(18:23):
You know?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I tried so what did I try doing?
Like, in my journal, I tried writing Japanesebecause that's, like, what I had to do that
day.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
So it's just a it's a I think when I whenpeople ask me, you know, what should I do in a
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journal?
I say everything and anything.
I don't limit it to just a diary.
It's not a diary.
It's a journal.
And the journal is your travels, like your ownbodily mind, spiritual travels
Yeah.
That you can what's going on.
About yourself.
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Yeah.
It's fun.
I I went away to Mexico, just came back andbrought my journal, and I didn't write at all.
I I was so busy.
I didn't write at all.
But I saved little things that I thought about,like, they're on little pay pieces of paper,
and I'll put them in because I don't wanna Idon't wanna forget.
(19:25):
Yeah.
Like, for instance, we went with anothercouple.
We'd never traveled with them.
And I keep writing down how lovely ourfriendship is and how well we're getting along.
And I wanna write that, how important it is tohave friends that you can travel with.
So I will dedicate a page to that.
Oh, that's really cool.
Yeah.
Those are
some science.
Thank you.
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Yeah.
Sometimes the journals are your pain.
You're putting your pain down.
You know?
But then you gotta get a lot of your joy inthere too.
Yeah.
Well, and it gives you a place to take thatpain and take it out of you and set it down
somewhere safe, shall I say, somewhere thatyou're not hurting anybody else, and it's not
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continually hurting you by carrying it in you,and it's there.
And then you can decide what to do with itlater.
You know?
That's right.
That's Absolutely.
You just hit the nail on the whatever is theexpression that you put.
You hit the hammer on the nail.
Nailed it.
That's you nailed it.
You nailed it.
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That's the expression.
Yeah.
I'm you know what?
As I grow older, I forget expressions.
I also forget words.
That's alright.
It all keeps life interesting.
I I I with the way my brain works from the timeI was very young, I would just get so excited
about things or I would be so intense aboutthings or I would just be, you know, whatever.
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And it stayed with me.
I was talking with a friend of mine and talkingabout my aunt and it's like, I really love my
aunt.
And he goes, oh, what's your aunt's name?
How silly is that?
You talk about embarrassing, of course, thenyou get embarrassed, so there's no way you're
gonna think of it.
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And I was like, shit.
And then 5 minutes later, you're I don't knowwhat a name is.
Yeah.
And then you remember, like, 5, 10 minuteslater.
Right?
Like, awful.
I didn't.
I think it was 2 weeks later before I couldremember because I was concentrating so hard on
it.
I was so embarrassed, and I finally didn'tremember.
I was like, well, too late now.
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But I got to all my kids.
I said, you're never gonna know when I'm senilebecause I'm this way now.
It's not gonna be any
That's me.
That's me.
I've been like this all my life.
No.
I see pictures of of children up there.
Is that under your
This is is my my oldest sister, my olderbrother, and my sister just older than me, and
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I was not even a twinkle in my father's eyes.
I was gonna say it looks like an older fat oldfashioned picture, like, not one today.
Yeah.
Like,
I know our kids are
kids won't be very fast.
Yeah.
You know?
And and this one's got just a little bit ofcolor to it because that was a really big deal
back then, you know, and and you take it blackand white that you can colorize it.
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And so it was, yeah.
It was I was saying to my mother once.
There was a picture of me when I was 4, and Iwas maybe 8 or 10 when I said this.
And I said, why did I have such beautiful rosycheeks then?
Because I got painted on.
Yep.
Yeah.
It even looks like I had lipstick on.
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We really need to talk about your book.
We're respectful of our audience.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So show
us your book again and tell us the title andwhere they can buy it.
Okay.
Well, that's an easy buy.
So it's called go vibrant, and then there'sthis little, you know, subtitle, which is, now
I forget what it says.
Now now it's an anecdote on loving and livingthe joie de vivre, which is French term for joy
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of life and by Vivian Shapiro.
So it's it's not it's an easy read.
And what I will tell you, Ellis, is that what Idecided to do, and I guess it's the teacher in
me, is I have, like, little workbook thingsinside of Nice.
And people don't wanna mess up the book.
There's a QR code where they can actuallydownload the papers to do the exercises and
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keep, like, a little journal themself.
Nice.
So they can create a little journal by, likeand the exercises don't come at any time.
In particular, just sort of when I feel likeit.
You know?
Just when I feel like it, it pops up in thebook that when it makes sense, when it aligns
with what I'm talking about.
And the other thing that I did just to make itdifferent is every chapter has its set of
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affirmations.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Based on what we talked about.
So this one was the b chapter.
I am a beautiful being.
I am bold.
I am brave.
I believe I can accomplish anything I set mymind to doing.
And people can choose to use that as theiraffirmations or add things that are b words.
You know, it's kind of like a little bit of achallenge for them.
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Wonderful.
So that's what I do.
And at the end, I I, ask everybody to write aletter to themselves, to their future life.
I I show them the one that I did, and I say,there's nothing like writing a letter to your
future self thanking your past self for doingcertain things to get to your future self.
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So there's an example of that, and then there'sa little template where you can actually write
the letter.
And then you open it up, like, 5 years later,which is you at that age that you're writing
to.
And then you see, oh, I did do that, and I didhelp this, and I did change my bitchy ways and
whatever is that you have to say.
And the the last jabber is fun.
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It's it's called life is like a box ofanalogies that take off on for its mouth
because everything can be compared everythingin nature, everything Yes.
You know, what you do can be compared.
So I compare life.
Life is like a bunch of intersections, likedriving in intersections.
And then I do, life is like a light bulb, andthen I explain it.
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So I also encourage authors, fellow authors,and fellow readers to actually write their own
analogy.
What to them is life like?
Is it like a monopoly game?
Is it like, you know, a lampshade?
I don't know.
So, few people have actually written to metheir stories, which has been fun.
Oh, that's in their circle.
Checklist at the end.
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That's a fun book.
Checklist at the end to say, you know, are youor are you becoming a a visionary?
Do Do you have a unique vibe?
Do you practice visualization?
And the idea is to keep a check on yourself tosee how many of those things you can get to
live a vibrant life.
So it's not just a reading book.
It's it's a very easy book to read.
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I've had wonderful reviews, thank goodness,from everybody who has been reading it.
I don't get enough reviews.
You know how that happens.
Right?
Like like, over 500 people have actually readthe book or the Kindle, but there's 38 reviews.
Yeah.
So that's that's the thing you've gotta beafter.
And that's why I'm going now to a marketingcompany because somebody said to me and I was
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very flattered by this because I only thoughtthis was a cute little book leaving a legacy
for my family.
That's what I thought.
But more and more people have read it and havetold me, and I'm I'm trying to be humble when I
say this, but have told me, you know what?
Everybody should read your book.
It's a kick ass book.
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It's it's full of, like, authenticity.
I feel like you're my friend talking to me, andso there have been really nice reviews.
So my coach from my first time writing whenhe's not my coach anymore.
He said to me, okay, Viv.
You know, you've gotta market this book.
You've gotta get it going.
So thank you for helping me share this withmore people in the world.
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Oh, definitely.
Definitely.
And I love what you said about writing aletter, the award I have there through life on
fire.
That was one of the things they said.
Write a letter today to your future self 1 yearfrom now about all the great things you're
going to accomplish.
And then but I like that you added thank youfor accomplishing this.
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Thank you for doing that.
I really like that you added that part to it.
And it's a really great idea.
It was the weirdest thing I ever heard.
It's like, how am I gonna write a letter to myfuture self when I don't even know what I'm
gonna do yet?
Yeah.
Where did you do that?
With in which It was called Life
on Fire with Nick and Megan Edsworth.
Okay.
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I don't know them because it sounded almostlike a Tony Robbins thing too.
Oh.
That kind of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He asked me to do
those no doubt about him this Yeah.
Oh.
Last couple
of years too.
I went to a 4 day conference with him and thatsuper changed my life.
Really?
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Very magical moment there.
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Alright.
So is your book an ebook and paperback?
Yes.
Thank you.
So it's on it's Kindle version.
Yeah.
Ebook.
Okay.
And, it's also in paperback on Amazon, and youjust have to do go vibrant.
If it doesn't come out, sometimes they'rethey're just grabbing some piece of cloth or
something on there.
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You you just say Go Vibrant book, and it comesup.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds great.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm excited.
I definitely want to go get it now.
Great.
Thank you, Ellis.
Opportunity.
Side.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And and just for those who are wondering if shehas any other books, she is in the book The
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Change.
Yes.
Yes.
I don't have my Yeah.
Yeah.
This one, hers is coming out, but it'll besimilar.
And and we have 2 gems.
So you have more.
And not your collaborative one.
Are they all all on Amazon under your authorname?
Yes.
I think when you go into my name and you seethat, it says other books by.
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Oh, good.
Good.
Yep.
And and I've got a very cute little poetrybook, but there's only 3 of my poems.
So I'm hoping to produce one with just mypoetry one day.
I think this is fabulous idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be But
it's just you know why, really, that I wanna dothat?
So that they're all in one place.
There you go.
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I love that.
So it's something my kids can go through andread them all and not find them in, like, 95
different journals or papers that are lyingaround.
That's that's actually really brilliant.
Is is to bring them all together and put themin That's published a book.
And it looks like you're a vocifer I can't evensay the word vociferous reader from
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Well, yeah.
And I've got 34 books of my own.
So You have 34 that
you've done yourself?
Well, I have have 17 that are are specificallymine.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, I have to read that.
The book is giving.
I get no profit off it.
Any books that I sell or that are sold onAmazon, all the profit goes to a nonprofit
entity because I wanted everything about thatbook to be about giving.
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That's why I don't even charge the authors tobe in a into your book.
And and you have to give back.
You can't just take all the time.
You have to give back.
And so this is a very I
totally agree.
I I agree.
Like, I sure didn't go into that one for themoney because it's you know?
I did it because I was hoping I had first ofall, just little legacy.
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But as I got in time and people were tellingme, I am hoping I can leave a little impact on
people who are are suffering, are are too muchinvolved in the, the sadness or the Right.
The bad times in their life and need to crawlout of that and see what there is out there
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before it's too late.
Right?
Being a woman of faith, I I read in my biblethe other day that it says and I've heard this
verse before, but I never really understood thedepth of it.
And it's about being content where you are.
And somebody said to me one time, well, ifyou're content, that means you're never gonna
get out of it.
You're always gonna stay that way.
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So you always wanna be like this.
And it's like and I knew that is what the versemeant.
And I finally figured out to be content is tobe at peace in yourself no matter what the
situation is.
Because that's the way I was growing up.
I was always happy.
It didn't matter what was going on.
It's like, well, you know, life goes on.
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You just keep going on with it until I gotinvolved with relationships I knew I shouldn't
have, but I wanted to be like everybody else inthe world.
You know?
Those dumb kids.
Those thoughts that go in your mind.
And and it's like, I want to be that person Iwas again.
And that's through all of this process, though,I found out that being content in every
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situation just means you're at peace inyourself.
So you can get out of it.
So you can move forward.
So you can grow.
You can get better.
But why not do it?
Just being happy.
And it and it's not like a happy pill oranything.
It's that deep peace that's inside of you thatit's like, yeah, it's tough, but I know it's
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not gonna last forever.
Or I know I can get out of it.
Even though I don't know how right now, I knowit is possible.
That's exactly.
Ex yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like and nobody's ever, what's the word?
When you get down on someone.
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So you don't get down on someone becausethey're unhappy, blah blah blah, because they
have to go through that.
Right?
The pain has to happen.
Sometimes pain brings you to a power placeafterwards if you can do it.
The key is to know you're not gonna be thereforever.
Yep.
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You know?
That's the key.
And then how do you get moved politely forwardto different options in your life?
And that's and that's like you said, you know,I mean, you talked about, you know, just being
content, being positive, being finding otherthings in life that aren't just always about
you or your own, like, trouble or whatever isgoing on in your life.
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You just have to do that.
Yeah.
You need a lot of people in the world like us.
That's right.
That's right.
For sure.
Thank you so much for being on the
show today.
You, LS.
Just I really enjoyed this.
Sorry.
We we kind of kept cycling, but it's okay.
I hope you can clip what you need.
Oh, yeah.
That's all good.
That's all good.
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This
is how we are, you know.
That's right.
Right.
But but you got.
Oh, and thank you our audience for being here.
We really hope we brought a lot of value to youtoday and that you can carry it through.
Be sure and check out Vivian's book.
It's vibrant.
I love all the energy and everything that wentinto it.
(34:28):
And I look forward to your poetry book.
Definitely, I'm gonna have to look at yourother books.
So we'll see you next time.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you next time on Reading Between theWords.
Go to www.readybetweenthewords.com.
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