EP40: Politics, Racism, religion, sexuality, Gender, DEI and everything else that gets you canceled

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Speaker 2 (00:15):
we're rolling good morning, fuck man.
Um, so, for those who arewondering why richard's laughing
, is because we tried to do azoom for the fourth fucking time
, right, and we can't get itright.
So apparently it is.
I mean, it's it's harder to getsomebody on fucking zoom on a

(00:35):
podcast than it is to sendsomebody to the moon.
So, um, richard, am I wrong?
Why am I enjoying so much thiswhole dei shit backfiring on the
democrats?
As much as it is right, likethis is the way I see it, and I
know you and I, we, first of allwe, we made an arrangement,
right, that we're not gonnaagreement a truce, we're not

(00:58):
gonna attack each other, right,but, uh, we're still gonna
disagree on stuff, you know,okay.
So, um, the fact that we haveto have that agreement, it shows
our level of maturity, um, buthey, is the ac on?
It is right, all right.
So, um, so, this is the way Isee it.
So the the whole, the whole, um, I'm not about, I'm not saying

(01:23):
that they're this is conspiracyto kill him and that they, you
know, send this guy, or it is apossibility, though I mean
whatever, anything's possible,right, like they could you're
listening, you, you see it allthe time they could.
And again, I'm not, this is notthe, this is not this my stance.
But, um, if I go up to you andI say, hey, I'm gonna kill your
fucking parents unless you, youknow, I'm gonna kill all this
and that and unless you do thisand this and this and that,

(01:44):
right, and they fucking set themup and they do whatever they
got to do, there's a possible,there's a possibility that that
happens.
You know what I mean.
Um, wouldn't be the first time,right so, but that that's not
the point.
The point is that, um, thiswhole thing totally backfired on
the democrats.
Not that they were, they hadanything to do with it, but if
this assassination attempt hasescalated trump's popularity by

(02:07):
what?
Double a?
hundred fold, I would say ahundred fold right and um, the
reason why it was ever able tohappen, in my humble opinion, is
because, um, we don't havequalified people working there,
right?
So, dude, I went a.
I don't even know how manysniper podcasts I listened to,
right, but the fact of thematter is that the fuck ups were

(02:30):
very basic.
I mean, like it wasn't anythinglike.
This guy did not have to jumpthrough almost any hoops.
He basically walked to thebuilding, climbed the ladder
while people were pointing atand looking at him.
He was able to set up shop upthere.
Point, when they saw him, whenthe secret service saw him, they

(02:54):
like almost then they had tostart calling can I shoot him?
Can I shoot him?
Can I shoot him, can I shoothim?
And and then you could see theguy kind of hesitating.
It wasn wasn't until he startedshooting that they shot, right,
so what's up with that?
I go, oh, I should not, shouldnot worry about that.
I go all right, so, and so thiswhole DEI.

(03:17):
So everybody's saying the samething.
Like, this problem is not now.
It started three, four fuckingyears ago when they were hiring
people based on race and genderand sexual orientation.
Right, actually, not sexualorientation, that's something
else.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
But uh race and uh gender sexual orientation is
part of it too you think so too?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
it's part of the inclusion yeah, it is part of
the inclusion.
I mean, you know, I know youshouldn't uh judge a book by its
cover, but it did look liketheir sexual orientation was,
was.
I mean, you know, I know youshouldn't uh judge a book by its
cover, but it did look liketheir sexual orientation was,
was, I mean, lesbian.
You know what I mean?
I mean that's what you see, thelady.
Did you see the video?
The lady trying to holster hergun?
No, you did not see that video.
So there is the seat.
There's a secret service lady.

(04:00):
I'm gonna I am absolutely gonnago out on a limb and say her
sexual orientation isfull-fledged lesbian.
Okay, she is uh heavy set, fivefoot something heavy set.
So apparently she's neverreally had to use a gun because
she holstered her gun all theway in the back, right.
And again, I'm not an expert inguns, but again this week I

(04:23):
became one.
I think, right, all thesesaying, hey, this thing has to
be kind of up here because ithas to be wherever you have your
gun, you need to have the right.
She had it.
So she was going like this.
So there's a full video of herjust going.
Kevin, can you pull that videoup.
Yeah, so it's her.
Trump, this is the same one thatwas hiding behind Trump.

(04:51):
You saw that picture.
Yeah, yeah, so that one.
When they the wage gap, right,right, yeah, yeah, I was just
there.
So when they, when she go, whenthey take him to the truck,
right, she's, he's behind themnow and she's trying to holster
the gun and she can't, and she'slike so she can't do anything
with it and she's just justfucking.
I'm just gonna hold it and actlike I'm doing, but they caught
the whole thing on video, sothis is what I'm so that that,
right there, backfired on now.
I also think that the reasonwhy they're in such deep trouble

(05:15):
right now with biden, right,like they have nowhere to go,
this guy is dying.
I mean, this guy's not maybenot dying, but he is just
falling apart, and falling apartfast and they don't have
somebody to lean on because theyhired comma.
Oh, here we go.
So look at her right there,right, first day on the job,
yeah, watch this Okay so now shetries to holster her gun, here

(05:38):
we go.
Oh, hey, oh hey, oh, there's alonger form video than that.
She really, really struggles toholster her weapon, um, so, so
now this whole.
Let's talk about the vicepresident.
So the reason why they can'tlean on you can leave that again

(06:00):
.
The reason they can't lean onkamala harris is because the
chances are very, very high thatshe was picked because she was
a black woman, right?
So they don't have a badassvice president.
They could be like hey, man,I'm gonna take the reins and I'm
gonna go with this and I'mgonna take this to the finish
line.
Let me skip ahead here.
Let's put them in the forefrontand everything like that.

(06:21):
I mean, so this dei stuff isreally coming out to bite them
in the ass.
I'm like what's your, what'syour thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So you know, they say the road to hell is paved with
good intentions.
And you know, look, obviously Ithink there was a time when
certain groups of people weremarginalized, and so the notion,
the idea is sound, but inreality it's just very bad, it's

(06:54):
just a terrible idea to-.
It sounds good on paper, right.
It's a terrible idea tosubstitute qualification for
these other things.
That really don't make sense.
And I think the theory for along time was like well, you
know, it's like doctors.
There's thousands of doctors,right, hundreds of thousands,

(07:17):
and by and large, just likelawyers, there are many that are
just not that good, but on aday-to-day basis they get the
job done Right.
And so it's like every time youknow you break your, when, when
somebody breaks their arm,there is like the premier
orthopedic surgeon out therethat will perform like the best

(07:37):
possible surgery of surgeriesrequired, but then there are
hundreds of thousands of othersthat are not the best surgeons
and they'll still likeadequately perform the surgery.
So I think the mindset is likeyou know, hey, we don't always
have to have the best of thebest, because the job can get
done with someone that's notnecessarily the best.
And this, this kind of ofthinking, has just, you know,

(08:01):
there is such a thing asoverdoing it and it's just been
overdone, I it and it's justbeen overdone.
I mean it's just been overdone.
You know, like everything hasto, has to have this slant to it
.
You know, we, we're constantlychoosing people that are that
are not qualified for the job.
I mean, we even have airlines,did you?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
see that comedian yeah, yeah he says uh well,
they're picking, you know, theywant, uh, you know certain
gender or certain certain oreverything.
He goes.
So wait a second, not the bestpilot, right, right, right,
exactly.
That's not what we're lookingfor.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
We're looking for a specific, we're not worried
about who's best qualified tofly the plane.
It's fucking ridiculous bro.
I mean it's, and again, that'sthe thing, there is such a thing
as overdoing it.
So you know it's like a fuckingecho.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm not hearing a fucking echo back there, or am I
going crazy, right?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
now, yeah, we're hearing it, it's just fucking
bananas yeah he's a phenomenaleditor man.
Obviously he's having a hardtime with the whole podcasting
um so, in other words, youdidn't find the best producer I
wanted, I wanted to go jewish, Iwanted to go jewish, and uh and

(09:06):
uh I didn't ask him if he'sgood at podcast, so the dei
backfired here on the podcastproduction my love of the jews,
my love, my love of the jews, uh, yeah, but no, all bullshit
aside, his editing is magical,he's, he's really good at that.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So I, you know, I know, I, I suspect, uh, he's
going to figure out this wholepodcast thing.
So, um, yeah, man, I, I so okay.
So this is what we had known.
We were supposed to have a, a,a buddy of mine, nolan, um,
african-american, he actuallydoesn't even like to be called
African-American, he wants tolike to be called black American
because in his, in his, uh, inhis in his, it is thinking he's
like I've been to africa, dude,and I'm not african, I'm

(09:43):
american.
So, um, I wanted, I wanted tobring him in because, um, he's
done a phenomenal job of raisingtwo, you know, black american
kids.
Um, you know one of his sons incornell, a stud athlete, I mean
, as as, as decorated an athleteas you can possibly be in his
sport and, uh, phenomenal, youknow, very religious kid, very,

(10:08):
uh, well-spoken kid, very, very,just just great, you know,
great student, the wholesituation and and I've had these
, these conversations with him,I'm like, I'm like, look man, so
let's talk about our kids,let's not even, you know, I
wanted, I wanted nolan here, sowe could kind of talk
specifically about, you know,african americans or whatever,
and and uh, but let's talk aboutour kids.
Our kids are hispanic kids andand it's normal here in, in

(10:29):
miami, right here we are themajority, okay, but we go any of
these places that I go to,right, like, I mean for my son's
sport I gotta travel to, like,iowa and pennsylvania and you
know, kansas or utah, whateverthese head places.
So, um, I don't the way I'mraising my kids, I, I, I will, I

(10:53):
don't see a space for that deiin my world.
Right, I wouldn't want my kidto get a space, um, on a team
because of it.
So like, say, for example, myson's always, you know, getting
picked for for certain.
You know wrestling teams, forexample, I wouldn't want
somebody to call him and say,hey man, you know, at the
hundred pound spot, I reallyneed a little speak from Miami.

(11:14):
Like, were you available?
No, he's going to get pickedfor these teams because he's the
best wrestler for the spot,right?
Same thing with my daughter,she gets.
You know, tennis is a littledifferent.
It's not open tournaments likeit is in wrestling.
They can only fit a certainamount of kids in those courts.

(11:34):
So they usually say, all right,everybody submit that you want
to go, and based on theirranking, they get, you know, 32
kids or whatever.
I wouldn't want you know her tobe, you know, ranked 49th on
that list, and because she's,you know, a Hispanic girl, then
then you know we have worth.
Who the fuck in their right mindthinks that's the way to raise

(11:57):
a kid?
That it's not what you do andhow you do, right?
I just don't understand it.
Like, where?
How did this even happen?
It's, it's, it's happened rightbefore our eyes in our lifetime
, right?
But how?
Like?
How?
What?
What does that make?
How does that make sense forany race, for any color?

(12:18):
Call it the Chinese right.
Are we going to like I don'tknow, they're not, they're not
really known as great athletes.
I they won a lot of olympics,though maybe not, but let's just
say, for the sake ofconversation, they're not great
athletes.
Are we gonna make things easierfor them so they can make the
nba team right?
How many chinese we have?
We had like one in the nbaright?
What are we gonna do?
Like, leave a space at the endof the bench for you know, three

(12:40):
chinese kids.
I mean I don't understand, likedo you understand it a little
bit better than I do, because Idon't fucking get it, man sports
is the one area that I thinkyou don't see it as badly um as
in other things.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
You see it more in like, um in work, you know, like
in in the, in the businessworld, in I wonder why america
right?
Yeah, well, because again,because the the it's very easy
to spot um inadequacy in sports,you know so, so you see it less
in sport.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
it is also in the military like I was watching
that tim that you watch the timkennedy when he says hey, you
could either carry this sack ofrocks for a mile at this pace or
you can't.
Right, like you're.
This is how you make it to thespecial forces.
You could carry this throughthis at this time, or you can't.
If you're a woman, you can doit Awesome, right.
If you're a tranny, that can doit Awesome.

(13:33):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but if you can't, youcan't.
And let me tell you, man, Ireally think there's going to be
a huge pendulum.
I think people are actually Imean, am I wrong?
And people are trying to figurethis out and saying like, whoa,
what?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
the hell is going on.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
You think so.
I think people are, I mean I.
The problem is that it's it's,but we have buddies that are not
.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, we have one in particular.
Well, the thing is that we havebuddies that don't see, don't,
don't believe that the problemis as prevalent as as we think
it is um, and we have some thatthink it's way more right, right
right and I think that I think,I think the the truth is is
somewhere in the middle.
I mean, like you know, again wejoke about the algorithm, you

(14:14):
know, capturing our one friendwho's fucking out there, you
know, and it's like and itreally is.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
We're trying to get him on the podcast.
By the way, I'm not gonna saywho it is until we get him over
here, but he's extreme.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
That chat is bad for my mental health, bro.
I mean it, it is mine too.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's fucking crazy.
It just keeps me sharp, though.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
The thing is again even in the military, the
reality is that we're going to amuch more technical warfare
type environment, so you don'treally need the guy that can
carry um the the sack of rocksfor a thousand yards you do for
the special forces again yeah,but there I don't think you
don't need the drone guy, Idon't think there's too much dei

(14:54):
in the special

Speaker 2 (14:55):
well, I think tim kennedy actually said that in
that interview.
He did say you have a fat assthat is driving drones, no
problem, right, you know, that'sfine, but every job has a
particular set of like skills.
And how about height?
Right, for if you have I don'tknow if you heard this part, but
he's like, if you have a sixfoot three 300 pound president,

(15:15):
the person guarding him has tobe six foot three, you know,
right?
Right, it can't be five, seven,you cannot have 40 pounds, you
can't have a five foot two girlguarding.
And here's another thing yougot to be able to carry the
president.
You got to be able to pick thatguy up.
They did everything wrong again, I'm not an expert in this, but
I like to think I became anexpert this week.

(15:36):
I've watched so many of thosedamn uh, special forces.
And there's a secret serviceguy too.
I watch an hour this guy.
This guy was through threepresidents.
I mean, let's, let's bring that.
I mean the only thing we can dois is bring awareness.
I'm not going to get hired bythe secret service and be able
to make those changes.
Right, let's bring awareness towhat the issue is, and let's.
I just don't think it's beingbroken down all the way to where

(15:57):
.
Um, I think the problem lies.
It's, it's all the way in thewith kids, right, so, right.
So if you have a kid, right,you need to raise the kid, to be
the best at whatever it isright.
You need to be able to say andagain, I wanted to get to a
particular sector of it and Iwanted Nolan in it, but we

(16:18):
fucked up the Zoom again.
Right, I'm here, it's, it's,it's okay, so how you can't
raise a kid saying you have adisadvantage because you are
Hispanic, because you are black,right, or you can't.
You you need to raise somebodyand say and if you raise that,

(16:38):
one person, you're I'm talkingabout.
You.
Multiply that by hundreds ofthousands and it's a society.
You can't continue to raise asociety thinking that they can't
do this and this because ofthis and that because of their
race.
You can't do this because ofyour race, you can't do this
because of of your gender.
No, man, you do what you putyour mind to, but if you don't

(17:00):
make it, you don't fucking makeit Right.
And I joke, and I joke aroundabout it all the time too, like
this whole DEI thing, you know.
So if you are a five foot onewoman, no, you should not be
guarding the president, right,just like I didn't put my son in
basketball, right, because he'snot going to be six foot nine,
right, what's the point?

(17:21):
I'm not going to waste my, I'mnot going to gonna, I'm not
gonna put him in a, in a, in awaste of time situation.
So, yeah, you, you pick whatyou do based on on, on on your,
your natural gifts, your, your,your height, just like you know,
listen, you're you didn't thinkI'm not, I'm not gonna play
basketball, I'm not right.
And and, by the way, I'm six twoand I still think I wasted my

(17:41):
time playing basketball.
Right, I could, I could havedone a million other sports.
I would.
I would, I would have beenprobably a big football player.
I was a small basketball player, I mean, and it's just.
It's the same thing, you know.
So look back to the societything.
If I'm raising a kid, right, Ineed to make sure that that kid
understands that nobody is, youknow, trying to slow him down.

(18:02):
There's not a conspiracyagainst him to like you know
he's not going to make itbecause green people say that he
can't make it or whatever.
He's a Hispanic kid.
I'm not going to tell him thatwhite people want him to like,
you know, not succeed becausehe's, he's fucked that shit.
And if they do fuck them evenbetter, like if they.

(18:23):
If there's actually a conspiracyon white people for Hispanic
people not to make it, fuck them, even better, like if they.
If there's actually aconspiracy on white people for
Hispanic people not to make itfuck them, good, now we want to
make it even more.
But as a society it's like ohno, no, because they don't want
you to make it.
We're going to create a slotright, so that, no matter what
your qualifications are, you'regoing to make it anyway, because
you're a little Hispanic kidfrom Miami and I want to make

(18:43):
sure that you make it to thisuniversity right and that you
make it to.
You know this.
Uh, you get this job becausethis job would normally not hire
anybody.
Because of this, and this Imean, dude, that if there's a
big, if there's a problem inthis country, I'm gonna tell you
that dei is the number one.
I mean, am I exaggerating, or?

(19:04):
Or Dugas you?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
know.
No, I mean, I think it's a bigproblem.
I don't know that it's thenumber one problem.
I mean, in my view, For thefuture.
In my view, the number oneproblem in the country is that
we have a horrific, horrificpublic education system.
I mean, we have the worst and,by the way, it's nothing new
Going back to even when we werekids, yeah, but charter schools
are coming to the rescue.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Private schools are coming to the rescue, they're
not though man they're not.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
We've had private schools.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
A lot of homeschooling happening right
now Private schools have beenaround for a long time.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I mean, there's a famous interview you can pull it
up on YouTube that JusticeSouter, former Supreme Court
Justice, gave that he felt thatthe greatest threat to the
country was that people don'tknow civics and so that's all.
All of this, uh, politicalpolarization is due, like in
large part, to the fact thatpeople just don't understand the

(19:56):
way our country works, the waythe laws work and you don't have
to be a lawyer, I'm talking.
People don't understand, like,the concept of the three
branches of government and howlaws are made.
I don't, and so Right, and whathappens is that you know there's
no requirement for people toknow it.
Right, you know, and it's likethink about it Like I don't know
about you, but I remembergrowing up and watching kids

(20:18):
that were complete fuckingidiots like graduating, like
they just graduate, everybodygraduates.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I had two.
No, no, no.
Idiots like graduating, likethey just graduate, everybody
graduates.
I had two.
No, no, I had two.
I had two friends.
I had two very close friends ofmine.
You know who they are.
I'll tell you off air thatgraduated like um, it's not
enough.
What's when you can't write?
I just forgot what it wasilliterate.
Illiterate I can't writeilliterate illiterate two
friends that you know how theylearn to write text messages.

(20:45):
That's how they learn to write,and they're still not exactly
shining examples of ofliterature but they still can't
write, they just no, yeah,because you got the autocorrect
and everything like that, youknow right, they can't write
autocorrect, they write okay,they can write or not, but they
write right.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
So, um, yeah, that, that, that, yeah, that is scary
shit, yeah, and and and yet theyget through school.
Yeah, so it's like it's justbullshit, bro, you just gotta
show up yeah and like, andthey're gonna get you through
school, and the reason for thatis because the schools will take
a beating if they fail kids.
Right, you know, so it's likeso everything has gone away from

(21:22):
the concept of merit.
You know, there's a concept ofthe meritocracy where it's like
everything is based on merit andright now we just do not have
that.
We're the opposite of that, andso it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You add that to the DEI situation.
I mean, we're just headed downthe wrong path.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So what happens is and it's been many years in the
making.
So now it's like the adultsthat were adults when we were
kids.
They were better prepared thantoday's adults because they grew
up in a less bullshit time, youknow, and the education was
better before.
It's like that video thatsomebody was sending it around
the other day about how it's.
I see it on instagram every day, like you see all the kids in

(21:58):
physical yeah, like they're alllike in the 60s.
They're all doing push-ups likethey can all do monkey bars it's
like right now.
How many kids can fucking climbmonkey bars like?
I enjoy taking my daughter tothe park.
She's eight years old, bro.
She gets on the fucking monkeybars and she's like this.
She's fucking ripped and thelittle boys are like I work on
my legs yeah, like literally.
I had a little boy like she wentup and she came back over the

(22:22):
water and we were on a cruiseand this and that and this
little boy who couldn't do it islooking at her, and he was
older and he was like I work onmy legs and I was, and I, of
course, I didn't say you surethought it, though of course I
was like sure you do, you know,and it's like because he's
watching this girl that couldlike do it better than him.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
And so again, by the way, you could have also done it
with the legs, and she wouldhave beat him on the legs too,
and if you had a rope to climb,he would have really.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
And that goes back to our point that it's not about
having an issue with minoritiesor women or anyone in any
particular segment of society.
It's having an issue with thecoddling, the making concessions
for people that don't deserveit.
And I'm telling you, in Plato'sRepublic it's a great book.
Have you ever heard of it?
I've heard of it, I heard itfrom you, so the whole concept

(23:09):
of the book is that he literallygoes through and he discusses
every single form of governmentthat existed as of that time and
he ranks them all.
Okay, and, by the way, he hateddemocracy.
He felt that the only thingworse than democracy was
despotism.

(23:30):
Okay, so what he does is he goesthrough and he talks about
every form of government andtheir pros, the good things and
the flaws, and then at the endhe describes what the perfect
society would look like.
Now, fact of the matter isnobody wants to live in Plato's
Republic right Like it's, justnot like.
Now.
Fact of the matter is nobodywants to live in plato's
republic right like it's justnot.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Contrary to many, is it kind of like calvus republic?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
no no, it's like um, at first of all.
It's like just to give you someideas.
Everyone is born with, like aspecific role, okay, so like
whether you fit for that role oryou don't.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
No no, they make it so that you fit so I'm saying
for example, they breed likelike, my dad wanted me to play
baseball right, so they did no.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
But it's not the parents, it's society like and
and the and the.
the government's ruled by what'scalled philosopher kings.
Okay, and so these are thepeople that know best, and so
they'll breed strong men andstrong women to produce the
soldiers.
Okay, so that's going to be thefighting class.
And then they find the smartpeople, and those people are
going to be the doctors andthey're going to be the

(24:27):
engineers and things like that,and they take the kids away from
family at birth.
Okay so, and the reason whythey do that is to create this,
this concept of community,because you're going to
encounter someone and, for allyou know, it's your kid.
Okay so, again, nobody wants tolive in Plato's Republic.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
But what's interesting is there's a lot of
cool concepts in there.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, what's interesting is that when he
talks about democracy, he's gotthis very famous phrase in there
that he says democracy is apeculiar form of government
providing equality for equalsand unequals alike.
Okay, and the reason and theconcept behind that is like you
know, listen bro, we're just notall created equal.

(25:09):
Okay, we're just not, you know.
So I don't have a great head ofhair.
Okay, I'm not 6'2", I don'thave a tremendous physique.
So what am I going to do?
Am I going to be upset aboutthat?
Like there's just nothing I cando?
Like that, like there's justnothing I can do.

(25:30):
Like you can't your best withwhat you right, right, and it's
like if I always tell people ifthere were, if we found out that
there were aliens, okay, andthat there was an intergalactic
congress and we finally gotinvited, humanely, finally got
invited to participate, like inthe, the, the galactic
government, right.
But they say to you, you haveto send, send your two of your
brightest and best, send.
Send me one man, one woman.
I'm absolutely not going to bepicked.
You might have to pick a guylike Tom Brady, right, because

(25:52):
the guy can throw, he can talkhe can speak, he looks good.

Speaker 2 (25:55):

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like that guy's the perfect specimen kind of thing.
And so what happens is thatwhen you tell people over and
over and over again for 150years that everyone is the same,
that everyone is special, thateveryone can achieve great
things guess what those thingsare lies, Not everyone can

(26:16):
achieve great things, they justcan't, OK.
So of course and it goes backto your point you can't be
telling people hey, you can'tachieve great things because
you're black or because you'reHispanic or because you're a
woman.
But it's not.
It may not necessarily beuntrue to say to your kid you
know, like my daughter she's,she loves gymnastics, she's a

(26:38):
great gymnast.
Frankly, I don't think she'sgoing to be an Olympic gymnast.
I'll tell you why.
Because she's eight years oldand she's very good at it, Okay.
And then there's another littlegirl that's in her group that's
eight years old and, bro, thelittle girl's like the Michael
Jordan of gymnastics.
Okay, and it's just.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, but that shit changes after puberty.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
It could, it could.
But my point is, I didn't say Iwas certain, I said I don't
think.
And it's the same concept withlike why you don't put Elijah in
basketball, right, like rightnow.
He could excel, he could begreat, because at eight years
old they're all more or less thesame height, they're the same
speed, the same this and that.
But what happens is, at acertain point there starts to be
like a separation.

(27:18):
Okay, so of course do you crush.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Do I crush my daughter's dreams and tell her
hey, I don't think you're gonnago to the olympics?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
no, but what's the reality?
Like there's like eightolympians, bro, you know what I
mean.
Like there's eight girls thatgo to the fucking olympics, or
whatever the number is forgymnastics, and there are
hundreds that miss it by ascintilla, you know.
So it's.
It's again, it's a concept thatwe have.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's not.
That's not.
Yeah, but that's not.
The point is if you were totell her that she's not going to
make it because society yeahbecause she's hispanic and that
white people don't want you tomake it right, want to keep her
down and society.
And then what would make iteven worse is if you spoke to
the school or the olympics andsay she, you need a spot for

(28:02):
little hispanic girls from miami.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Agree, that's where the problem happens.
100, you know what I mean andand as a society.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
So can we safely say that 50 of our population agrees
with that dei stuff?
I mean they vote for it.
Or you think, out of that, 25,out of that, maybe half and half
, or you know, I think that, forI, I think that like how bad is
the problem?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
people.
I don't think that's been thedriving force of why they vote
what happens is their hatred oftrump well, a lot of people hate
trump.
They'll vote for anything otherthan trump, no doubt about that.
But I mean as a general premise, like, how did the democratic
party get to like these beinglike you know the um, the
messages, and like their, theirideas?

(28:45):
And I think it's largely it's afunction of vote getting right.
Because, again and anotheranother Platonian concept of
this is is that in the idealsociety, nobody would run for
office.
Ok, like you'd have to begpeople to be a politician
because, by definition, thepolitician is supposed to serve

(29:08):
others.
And what do we see?
What is the main complaintabout politicians is that they
serve themselves right.
They lie, they want power.
They all lie, right they all lie, they all want power.
It's almost like the best liaris the one who gets it.
And then, once they're in power, they want to keep power Right.
And so, in the ideal societythat Plato discusses, the ideal

(29:30):
candidate does not want to be inoffice.
You have to drag the personinto being in office, because if
the politician that does whathe's supposed to do, that he's
always at a personaldisadvantage, right.
Whereas to the contrary, beinga politician creates a lot of
personal advantages, right.
I mean, we hear it all the timein the corruption and things

(29:51):
like that.
And so, again, the country isjust so backwards on a lot of
these, on a lot of theseprinciples, that after a certain
number of years it starts tobecome a problem.
That's what I was saying abouteducation.
It like 30 years ago it wasalready bad, like when I was in
school.
40 years ago it was bad.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
It created me.
I graduated with a 1.5 gpa yeah, 40 years.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I mean okay, but you have work ethic.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So it's like you know , 40 years ago I also had
parents that told me thatanything was possible.
Yeah, I also had parents thatdidn't say hey, man, you're a
kid from the trailer park.
You know you got to chill outwith your goals, because I would
tell them I'm gonna be amillionaire and I, you know, and
I'm gonna, this is what I'mgonna do, and these are.
They didn't say well, no, son,you know you got to understand

(30:36):
you're a little spick from atrailer park, you know, chill
out with the goals.
You know the.
You know the white man's notgoing to let you do that, right?
I mean, just imagine me, right,I had every reason not to right
, like, came to this country ona fucking shrimp boat, right?
I mean obviously extremely poorfor the majority of my life, of

(30:58):
my childhood, right, but, man,I just had parents that said,
hey, man, we came to thiscountry.
Here's another thing they lovethis country, right?
So imagine you're growing up ina household that hates the
country, the fucking country, inaddition to, in addition to oh
no, you hate this countrybecause the white man is going

(31:18):
to hold you.
You're not going to be able todo.
The only way you could succeedis if we create a slot for you
in these universities and wecreate a slot for you in these
jobs, right, because America isagainst you.
And then you watch a sport Okay,and this is where you and I
argue sometimes, and everythinglike that.
Then you watch a sport becauseI don't, I don't want to watch a

(31:39):
sport.
That fucking, all they do isshit on the United States of
America.
I don't, I don't think I don'twant my kid watching a first of
all.
You watch a sport and it's allLGBTQ commercials, right, am I
wrong?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
no, no right.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
So it's again beat, listen, I, I have, I, I I have
hired two gay people in the lastI've joked around about.
I'm like dude, I might go allgay.
I mean, they're fucking peopleare awesome, right, like
seriously, have I not said that?
Listen, the the he means it inthe best possible way.
What better, what better way,can I say?
But nobody forced me.

(32:18):
Nobody forced me to hire gays.
I just ended up.
I don't care if you know what.
Hey, here's the job.
Can you do it right?
And I hired them and hey, ohshit, you're well, one of them
was whatever, yeah, it was.
It was more evident than theother, right, but but hey, man,
fucking awesome, you're gay,great, you know what?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
let's do it.
You're a very funny, uhrepublican, uh political
commercial from four years ago,the prior election when mayor
pete was running for president,and uh, they did.
Man kevin, if you can find itwell, we should pull it up, we
should play it.
But it was a commercial wherethey they went through and they

(33:00):
analyzed every candidate on thedemocratic side, like every
single one, and they shit on allof them.
It was so funny.
But when they got to mayor peteit was like mayor pete gay and
it's a big deal I mean nobodygives a fuck man.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Listen again.
And I say it because literallyin the last what six months,
right, I've hired two, two gay,two gay kids, right for, like,
important positions in mycompany.
Right, dude, I don't give afuck, if you're gay can you do
the job or not.
Right 100.
But in man, if I would havehired them.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I'm gonna hire you because you're gay.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah I mean, I I'm pretty sure I'm gonna ask
them if they want to come inhere.
And how would they feel if Isay I hired you specifically
because you're fucking gay?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
yeah, yeah, you know what I mean like, but the
problem is that there's athere's a large group of people
out there that are that are goodwith that with what with who
hire you because you're gay?
Yeah yeah, and again, that's,that's part of the fuck up, and
so it look, it's like it's out,it's in the open.
Now you know, and that's thewhole thing.
So there's like again.
I have relatives, familymembers.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You've got a lot of fucking gay people on your side.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Relative I've been to , gay weddings are the best
times I've ever had, et cetera,but they are a little more fun
in weddings.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah yeah, they're better dressed.
Well, what?
What other stereotypes do youwant um?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
but good dancers.
But what's what's amazing aboutit is that I think there's a
large segment of that populationthat are outraged with what's
going on 100 today, I would saywhat I would say 80 of the days
are disgusted with what's goingon and then.
And then there's, you know.
Then of course there's thevocal much and again, I say it
all the time the social media,the internet, these are huge

(34:42):
cancers, bro, because everyonehas a microphone.
I mean, look at us, we're justtwo fucking dumb fucks.
And who knows how many peopleare going to listen to this.
Some people, inevitably, aregoing to comment these guys are
fucking idiots, these guys areracist, these guys are this,
these guys are that.
And then there going to beothers that are like, oh, this

(35:04):
is amazing.
And then this is going toprompt other people to fucking
do a podcast.
I mean, I, sebastian rusk, ourbuddy brother, sells podcasts.
Yeah, can you imagine the guysgot like a business, yeah,
selling pockets.
I used to tell him all the timelike, bro, you're gonna starve
doing that.
Who the fuck wants to start apodcast, bro, like nobody's
trying and it's like everyone'sgonna have a fucking podcast now
, and then I'm telling you, it'sthese people, brilliant people
say things and they become, uh,legendary statements.
Like you know I think it wasandy warhol in the future,

(35:25):
everyone's going to have their15 minutes of fame.
Okay, and that's literallyhappening.
So everyone.
So think about it.
The press.
People are like oh, the press,the press.
A hundred years ago the presswas like five things okay.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So now everyone is pressed I mean right at the
beginning of television it waslike two things right, it was
two channels, two channels, twochannels.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
You had to get up and move it two channels.
I was talking to my daughterabout it the other day.
She was shocked yeah, we weretalking about this the other day
and and um, she sees a tv.
I forgot where we were, man,and it was like an old box, like
a tube, a tube tv.
And she was like, is that thetv you had when you were a kid?
And I was like something likethat.
And she was like and like, whatwould you watch?

(36:06):
And I was like, well, there wasonly a few channels.
And she was like what do youmean?
there was only a few netflixyeah and then my, my wife was
like yeah, and when somethingwas on you had to watch it then.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
So you know, like, like there was this shit about
you have to watch it then.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
So you know like there's shit about on.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
You have to be ready for at eight o'clock because
that's going to come on and youcan fucking pause.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
That was 20 years ago .
Right right, you can pause livetelevision now.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Right, I remember when that happened like five
years ago I was like whoa TiVo,it was TiVo, it was TiV came out
, I was like yeah, no, no, andso I'm telling her, I'm like, so
at first there was only a fewchannels and there was no
internet.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
And she was like no internet.
I'm like, yeah, maybe there wasno internet.
And she was like, well, howwould the tv like, how would you
watch tiktok?
Yeah, no, no.
Like how would the tv like knowwhat to play?
And I was, was like it had anantenna, and she's like what's
an antenna.
And I'm like, yeah, you know,like these, the fucking rabbit
ears, you know it would havethis thing that came out and in

(37:06):
the air, and sometimes you hadto move it around Right, bro,
and it would come in the airOkay and like, and there were
and remember the bathroom tocome back before the, the tv
came back, and so you know againthe.
With the advent of technologyhas come a lot of the dumbing

(37:27):
down of america, so a bunch ofthings have come together a
horrific education system thathas been in place for, let's say
, 50, 60, 70 years, and after 70years of pumping out idiots,
the vast majority of people arefucking idiots.
Yeah, richard, but I want to.
It's like dude everyone has all.
Everyone has a compendium ofall human knowledge in their

(37:48):
fucking pocket and nobody knowsshit.
Yeah, Can you explain?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
that, yeah, but again , the reason why it's scary is
back to the whole, you know.
So I have a kid right I have isback to the whole, you know.
So I, I have a kid right, Ihave a imagine, I have a
hispanic kid right and I spend.
You know I'm gonna backtrackand start over because I stopped
, you know, at the sports thing,right, um, and the commercial
thing.
So, hey, hey, man, you know youcan't make it because you're a
little hispanic kid from miami.

(38:12):
You don't chill out with thegoals, like, just speak, you
know you can't do this and thisbecause the white man.
And then they watch acommercial, then they watch tv
and they watch a sport, thesport that they like or it's
entertaining, and then there is,you know, every other
commercial sentiment, everyother commercial right is, you
know, uh, you're gay, you'reokay, and again I got.

(38:35):
Obviously I just mentioned Ihave zero problems with gays.
But I mean, you know, if we, ifI spent my whole, if I got a
kid, and all I spent all day wastelling them how heterosexual I
am right, that'd be fuckingweird, wouldn't it?
Yeah, right, like literally, ifI, if I just did a commercial
on how heterosexual I am, andyou know, and, and, and I and I
have only have sex with women,and, and, and here let me kiss

(38:57):
this, let me tongue this woman,and it's fucking weird because
it's a kid.
Right, it's a fucking kid, soit's, it's just the, the, the
constant bringing up ofsexuality is what's fucking
weird.
It's not what sexuality?
Yeah, right, it's, it's, it'sjust, it's unnecessary.
So if I'm growing, if I'mraising a kid, right, I tell

(39:18):
them hey, you can't make itbecause you're this and this and
this and, by the way, fuckingAmerica sucks.
You hate this place.
As a matter of fact, when theybring out the national anthem,
you're going to kneel for it,just like your sports heroes
kneel for it.
Okay, that I mean.
How the fuck does that kid makeit through that?

(39:41):
Uh, like, I don't know, it'slike an obstacle course of of of
excuses and uh, uh, reasons whyyou know they should, you know,
hate everything around them.
Like, how do you make itthrough that?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
and that is systematic and it's funny, but
and it's, it's so true becauseit used to be that the inverse
was true.
Right where, like every day inschool, I don't, I don't know if
they do it anymore, I'm not,I'm not in school, but every day
we used to have to stand up forthe pledge of allegiance, right
, in fact, and and think of, bythe way people say it and they
don't, they don't hear what thewords mean the Pledge of

(40:19):
Allegiance.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm pledging allegiance.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
You're allegiance to the country.
At FREC we do it.
We stand up for the Pledge.
Every meeting starts with thePledge of Allegiance.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
What if you upset somebody?
What if somebody gets offendedby that?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
There's no concept of that.
By the way, in the years thatI've been there, I've never once
seen somebody not stand OK ornot do the pledge.
And it's literally on my scriptas chair and it's like you know
welcome to the June or July17th 2024 meeting, the Florida
Real Estate Commission.
My name's, you know, richardBarber.
I'm the chair.
You know, please stand and joinme for the Pledge of Allegiance

(40:55):
to our flag.
And then I have to name acommissioner, commissioner
Kenyar, commissioner Price, andthen that person starts it.
No, the Pledge of Allegiance.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I pledge allegiance.
And so they start.
Yeah, they start.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Oh really, the rest of the room kind of comes up,
and so, but man, these thingsthese concepts are have been
eroded, Like now it's beinganti-American is cool, you know,
like and so.
And I have a very dear friendof mine is one of the smartest
guys I know.
I went to law school with him.
I haven't seen him in years butwe keep in touch, you know on
the internets.

(41:30):
And you know he's a big criticof the country, but I don't
doubt his love of the country.
Country like, one thing is youwant the country to improve, big
difference.
And right, you know you wantthe country to improve.
And then there's these otherpeople that are just bro, it's
anti-american sentiment and itdefies logic because it's like
do you see?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I mean people are fucking die trying to get here
literally put their fuckinglives at risk to get here and,
by the way, you know like, ifyou hate it so much, get the
fuck out of here why can't youget the fuck out of here?
What kind of asshole I meanpeople move all the time, get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Imagine what kind of idiot you have to be to walk
around suggesting that thecountry is garbage, when this is
where everyone in the worldwants to be primarily.
I mean, that's not true?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
well, you're driving from right from when you're
driving from point A to B, youknow, look, I'm in Miami, right.
So I get people from Venezuela,colombia, ecuador.
I mean you ask those people whyare you here?
It's because it's safe.
Yeah, I'm not going to getkidnapped, I'm not going to get

(42:36):
killed.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I don't got to worry about getting shot.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I don't got to worry about getting shot, going to get
a fuck.
I don't got to worry aboutsomebody extorting my business
going and saying hey, I have alittle mom and pop shop, you're
gonna give me 20 a day or I'mgonna fuck you up like you don't
have to worry about that, right?
Listen, man, you know, I say itall the time.
Like these south americans thatcome here, they love private
communities.
They will a it's almost likeexclusively.
They live in privatecommunities, like with a gate

(43:04):
and a guard.
And I realized, I don't know,10 years into this, I'm like
these fucking people.
The reason why is because theythat's what they're used to.
They have to live, they have tohave that level Quarantine.
That level of quarantinebecause that's what they're used
to Like in the building.
It's like you pick a buildingover there, like my wife's
Venezuelan right, kidnapping ispart of your day-to-day

(43:30):
operations over there.
One time, when we first gotmarried, she's like well, I got
to go back to Venezuela.
I'm like I don't think it's agood idea.
She's like, well, I gotta goback to venezuela.
I'm like I don't think it's agood idea.
She's like, well, no, I have tobecause I have to listen, I'm
like, listen, I'm telling youright now that's not a good idea
and what I don't want you to dois put me on a fucking mission,
because if you get kidnapped,right, it's my fucking problem.
Yeah, like now I gotta go andfigure out how I'm gonna

(43:52):
unkidnap you In a third worldcountry, right, with money, with
violence, with whatever.
Like don't go.
She went, guess what happened?
She, they, it was a gunpointattempted kidnapping.
And I always joke about what mywife repeats things like a
motherfucker she'll repeat thesame fucking thing a hundred
times.
She annoyed.
She repeated the same thing tothese people until they let her

(44:14):
go, but it was gun to the head.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Take your shit you imagine they were like fuck it,
let's get somebody else picksomebody else.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
This one's gonna repeat the fuck out of things.
You know, um, dude, gun to herhead, gun to her head.
You know like, uh, they tookher car, they took her purse,
they took everything and theytried to take her in the car.
They just did it because shewas annoying them.
That's my theory, right, um,but you know so, when they come
over here, they just want safety, man, that's it.

(44:43):
Like.
I just want to live like a life.
Yeah, what's that presidentthat we love?
Bukele, what is that?
That's Salvador?
Is that Salvador?
Or Ecuador, el Salvador?
I mean, those people justwanted to live, man, without
getting killed, without gettingthose tattooed-faced guys.
That guy is so good, what a man.
Listen, I don't want to meet alot of people in this world.

(45:05):
I've got to meet that guy atsome point.
I've got to meet that guy atsome point.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
He's got a great one where he's a human rights
activist.
He's throwing bananas about theway he's treating these people,
he's put 40,000 of them in jail40, about the way he's treating
these 40,000 of them in jail,these, these 40,000 that's a
city and the way that they treatthem.
You know, perfect, right.
And so, um that he was like no,because you know one of these.
One of these people asked me if, um, if there would be chicken

(45:32):
for these prisoners, if theywould eat chicken, and I said
they will eat chicken afterevery salvadoran who's not a
fucking delinquent?
And after that, when our police, uh, officers have chicken, and
when all of our hospitalworkers eat chicken, and when
all of our children eat chicken,and when all the dogs that are

(45:53):
wonderful, that are people'sloved pets, when they eat
chicken.
If there's any leftover rightafter all this shit, then those
fucking scumbags will havefucking chicken, you know.
And he's like no, these peopleare fucking outraged.
He's like come get them, bro,come get them, take them and go,
take them and take care of them.
And do this and, and and theworld.
I think we're seeing a lot ofthis, a lot of these kinds of

(46:14):
politicians uh argentina yeah,because, yeah, because, because,
bro, people are tired of thebullshit.
I firmly believe that we're atthis like inflection, pendulum
point, where, where people arejust like again, it's like there
is such a thing as overdoing itright and they've overdone and
this has been overdone and it'slike again.
A lot of people say that, oh,the pendulum has to swing and

(46:36):
all that.
And then, you know, eventuallyit corrects itself.
But man, like this swing is ispainful and it's damaging to the
country.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, it's, it's, uh listen and and let me talk about
, like separation, and and thiswill be the most, probably the
most controversial fucking thingI say right.
So, um, I grew up, um, playingbasketball, right, I don't know,
80 of my teammates were black.
Right, I always say, always saythis story.
So I got invited.
I don't know if you rememberTiffany I'm not going to say her
last name, whatever, butTiffany, huge, she was a

(47:05):
basketball player, a white girl.
She gets married to a black guy.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Oh, I do remember, remember that story.
Yeah, no, well, I don'tremember the story.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I remember her.
So man yeah she, yeah she.
She gets married to a black guy, right?
Um, super nice guy, great guy.
The whole situation, um, I getinvited to her wedding, right.
But um, her wedding was likeyou walk in and like, literally,

(47:31):
black people are on one side,white people are on the other
side, like, and I'm like, allright, well, she put me with the
black people the funner side ofthe room, like, right, this is
where, this is where the peopleare drinking more fun no funner.
Um, that's the side I'm like.
Oh, that's the side I want tobe on right.

(47:52):
So I I didn't even think twice,like I've started walking
towards that area, figuringfinding my table, and she put me
on the white side.
I'm like and I like, why'd youfucking put me on the fucking
white?
I ended up leaving the whiteside and sitting on the black
side.
This was 2010.
98% of the music that I listento is black music or rap music,

(48:18):
hip hop, whatever.
That's how I grew up, I grew upin.
You know, in that year that inthat era where you know you, 90s
hip-hop is the best, 90ship-hop is all I let.
Shit.
My son is pretty much what helistens to, you know what I mean
.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Presidents come and go, but wu-tang is forever.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Wu-tang is absolutely forever.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
I've had one sticker in mywhole life in my car.
It's been a Wu-Tang sticker.
I've never had any bumperstickers or anything like that.
So so what I'm trying to say is, like you know, so, my entire
life I voted Democrat.
My entire life, right, all theway to Obama, right.

(48:53):
So I voted for a blackpresident twice, okay, in the
last four years.
Okay, um, with this whole BLMshit and this whole Antifa shit
and everything like that, I, ifI will tell you right now, if I
go to that same wedding 2024,jesus, I'm probably not going to

(49:16):
sit on the black side, right,and let me tell you why.
Um, it is for whatever reason.
I don't know why this hashappened.
The culture, that culture, hasbecome hate america, right, like
what?
Why it's?
It's, it's, you know, nfl, thekneeling, the, uh, the.

(49:39):
Are you texting or listeningwhat?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
are you?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I'm both, okay, um, so yeah, man, I don't know what,
what separated our country,what the fuck has happened where
I feel a separation, like I'mthe hispanic guy and I'm leaning
towards the white guys more.
What's what's happened?
There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a cycle, something's

(50:03):
happened, right like something's, something's, some phenomenon
has happened where it's like,dude, what the fuck is going,
where's the separation and what?
And what worries me is that itwas fabricated, right like how,
how severe, like I asked ethanthe other day, right, so, ethan,
ethan is, is, is, um, is jewish?
Right, and I go hey, man, haveyou ever felt any anti-semitism

(50:24):
or anything like that?
He's like, he's like no, notreally.
So, but you hear in the newsright now it's all fucking, oh,
oh, you know everybody hates.
You know the and the Palestinething and everything like that.
So what I'm saying is has the?
Has social media gotten to myfucking head, right when I'm
starting to where you know it is?

(50:46):
It is gotten to the point whereyou know, if I ask 10, you know
African-Americans in the street.
Hey, man, do you feel racism?
I wonder if 80% of them willsay no, and that's why I wanted
to get, you know, the gueststhat we had on today before we
fucked up the zoom was really toask, ask those questions.
Like I wonder how enhanced thisis and how, um, you know how

(51:10):
exaggerated it is, where it'sgotten, you know, the country
separated because I'm not theonly one that feels that way.
I'm not the only one that'sgotten those feelings recently
that has spent my whole lifethinking one way, thinking
Democrat, right, and you know,yeah, let's just talk about that
.
Like why the hell have I turnedabsolutely Republican?
I'm extreme Republican at thispoint, from Democrat to extreme

(51:33):
Republican, like I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck'shappened, but I think
something's happened.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
So I agree.
I think so first.
First of all, people change.
So what I mean by people changeis and there's a, there's a
comedian bro Guy named ShaneGillis yeah, Very funny.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
He's a comedian bro.
There's a guy named ShaneGillis.
Yeah, yeah, very funny, he's afucking man.
Yeah, I know Shane Gillis.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
And he's got this one bit that he talks about.
I know all of them, so yeah,how you become Republican as you
get older.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Oh yeah, as you get older.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
And he even finishes it like so His dad, Right, he's
like your dad, you don't startas a huge fucking dick.
He says.
You know, like, like becauserepublicans generally they're
considered to be fucking dicksright you know, and he's like,
and, and he goes on the rant andthen at the end he's like and
mermaids are white, by the way.
I mean that that's veryimportant, you know, because of
the whole backlash when theyremade little mermaid and the,

(52:24):
the little mermaid was a blackgirl, right?
And so what happens is that Ithink it's a combination of you
get older and it's like theclassic line of get off my lawn.
Okay, because, honestly, likewho gives a fuck that they
remade the little mermaid andthe mermaid is a black girl?
Like who gives a fuck?
Like my daughter saw the littlemermaid the cartoon and she saw
the little mermaid the movieand like she didn't come out

(52:45):
like at eight years old butthat's not what really got me.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I get it, I get it, but what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
is our sensitivity to things changes over as we get
older.
That's not what really got me.
I get it.
I get it, but what I'm sayingis our sensitivity to things
changes over as we get older.
That's number one.
Number two I think that theissue that you're describing,
the phenomenon, does exist, butthen it's amplified.
Okay, and when you say, didsocial media get me, I think it
gets all of us.
Okay, and I firmly believe inthis concept of like, the

(53:10):
algorithm, because, again, and Ifirmly believe in this, this um
concept of like the algorithmbecause again, like if I open
our friend's phone.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, okay, all conspiracy everything is
conspiracy, bro.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Everything that they feed him.
Every video he's got is ofcrimes.
You know every so.
So what happens is that heopens it.
That's all he sees, bro.
And then, on top of that, and Ifirmly believe, too, that
people are weak minded- yeah,but so when you?
Have a weak mind, bro, you'reinfluenced.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
But then you turn on ESPN and you're watching
basketball, and then I get it.
It's mainstream as well, but,but I so I have a tattoo of a
basketball on my body, rightLike I have a tattoo of a
basketball and I don't fuckingwatch basketball right now.
Right, I get it.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I don't want a sport that hates every star, hates
america yeah, I don't fuckinglike it.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I don't know that they hate america.
Uh, richard, they don't standfor the national anthem.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, but but again, right but I don't know that they
hate america.
That's just the way whatthey're doing is is packaged for
everyone to create this outragelike separation I firmly
believe that there are peoplethat like spin everything, so
like yesterday.
I'll give you a good example.
Yesterday in our group chat,someone and they'll remain

(54:21):
nameless sends a videosuggesting that the democrats
are now adopting the slogan makeamerica great well, there's one
video of them.
Okay, hold on, hold on hold on,I'm gonna tell you what I did.
Okay, okay, and.
And then, not only is does thevideo come through, but then the
caption on it was guess whatphrase the democrats are

(54:44):
adopting now?
And then it's like dot, dot,dot.
No, I'm not kidding, right?
Okay, okay, and so that wholephrase that whole post.
the purpose of the post is topiss people off, to create
outrage.
Yeah, okay, that person who didthat, bro, they have no like.
In my view.
They're bad people, thesepeople that like so division.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Why they did not say that.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
They did.
But what happens is I went andpulled like the whole video and
what they were doing was theywere mocking Trump.
They were saying they weresaying the guy that wants to
make America great again, youknow, wants to, you know,
eliminate women's right tochoose.
He wants to, you know, putpeople in camps.
He wants to kick out.
All these hardworking peoplehave been in the country for

(55:27):
fucking 20 years and do the jobsthat nobody wants to do.
These hardworking people havebeen in the country for fucking
20 years and do the jobs thatnobody wants to do.
And then and then they werelike what we want is this and
what we want is this.
And so it was like one of thesethings of using the phrase
against them, like the Democratsaren't actually going to start
saying make America great againas their slogan, and so what?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
they are trying to get people without citizenship
to vote no man what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
oh man, no, no.
So so again, again, listen, wecan.
I can shit on democratictalking points and and there are
lefty division sowers all day.
I'm not taking a side.
What I'm saying is that part ofthis phenomenon of the
separation is that what wedidn't have when we were younger
, what didn't exist becausethere was no social media, okay,

(56:16):
was people who had unlimitedaccess or unlimited ability to
expose people with weak minds.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Okay to divisive Renting space in their head.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Right To divisive ideas, like now.
It is a cottage industry ofpeople who purposefully wake up
in the morning and their job isto drive americans into separate
corners.
That's their job.
That's literally what their jobto do.
And guess what?
They're fucking good at it,yeah, and so.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So that's why I'm asking you, so you're thinking,
so I'm asking straight up.
So that wedding situation, thefact that you know I would
probably sit on the other sideof the wedding now, and I think
that you'd find 14, 13 yearslater.
Yeah, right, I would probablysit where I was, pissed off,
upset, insulted, that I sat onthe white side of the fucking

(57:08):
thing.
Right, I wanted to sit on thewhite side of the fucking thing.
Right, I wanted to sit on thefun side.
Okay, 13, and not even 13,because you could go five, right
.
Um, best friends growing upblack Marvin Jack, I mean, I
play basketball, those are myguys, those are the guys that
slept over my house.
You know what I mean, like that.
And now, all of a sudden, I'mlike God man, what the fuck's
going on here, dude, like theyhate me.

(57:31):
They hate me, right I?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
think you'd so.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I'm going to hate them.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That's really the, I think.
I think you'd find that it'snot as bad as you think, right.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
And I was back to the point where I think it's
heightened, which, by the way,growing up I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
In school you learn about racism and the whole shit
and the civil rights movementand all that and I'll be honest
with you, I didn't reallyunderstand the concept Like I
never.
You know, and it wouldsupposedly, people you know
we've sent the photos in thegroup chat about.
Like you know, keep the fuckingCubans out of here.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know and all that.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
And I'll be honest with you, I never experienced
any of that.
I of that, I've been called theSpickbeard.
And then when I went to lawschool okay, which was in St
Petersburg, and it was 20 plusyears ago already I got there
and I realized, whoa, there areno like Spanish people in my law
school Like Cindy and I werelike but Cindy doesn't even look
at you.
No, Cindy and I were like amongthe very few, like Spicks, in

(58:26):
law school, and I remember thatit was that time up there in
that area, which is in saintpete, which, again, which is a
pretty big little city, that Iexperienced for the first time
like the feeling from peoplethat because I was spanish, like
somehow I was like not american, like I used to get it all the
time, there was this one kid I'mnot going to mention his name,

(58:47):
but dude, I remember that hefucking hated me just because I
was from miami, bro, and whenthe hurricanes it was like that
year the hurricanes were, theyhad won the national title the
year before and they were goingto repeat and there was a bad
call at the very end of the gameand they lost to ohio state.
And I'll never forget, bro, thatthe next day the kid made it a
point to be like that's whathappens when the fucking, you
know, you fucking spics run intothe big 10.

(59:10):
You know, whatever the fuck,wherever ohio state, they
weren't here to speak to you Iknow.
But and again, that was justignorant.
But I remember thinking I'mlike dude, I've never kind of
experienced that before, whereit's like their default was this
disdain now.
Did it traumatize me?
Did I cower back into a cornerand I'm?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
like oh my god, now everybody's trying to.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
No, I don't give a fuck about it, but I do remember
that.
I then realized I'm like, ohshit, this phenomenon is out
there and so for people in bigcities it doesn't happen as much
.
Okay, like, and, by the way,that's why big cities are always
left leaning, because, bynature, the diversity of thought
is there, nature, the, thediversity of of thought is there
, there's, you know, there'sagain.

(59:51):
Think about miami, it's likeyou said, there's.
But we walk outside and fuckingthrow a rock in any direction.
You could hit a brazilian, youcould hit a venezuelan you can
hit a fucking cuban.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
You know it's like yeah, but in fact you're
unlikely to hit a gringo so myquestion for sure, uh, and the
three of them have been in this,in this office for whatever
reason, and in this podcast.
So my question is really I'vekind of come to grip, like I've
narrowed down what I think myquestion is right.
Um, my question is is it beingexaggerated?
And have I been brainwashed,right and and?

(01:00:21):
And that's my question and I'mgonna answer it.
Um, I'm gonna answer it withanother question.
If you see somebody with anamerican flag, right, do you see
somebody with an american flagon their boat or on their car or
on the outside of their house?
What do you?
If you had to gun to your head,you had to pick the Republican
or Democrat, what would you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
what would you?
Obviously you'd say theRepublican.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Why?
Obviously go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Well, because I think that in the past five years
there's been this.
Let's go back in the past 10years since the the cancel
culture phenomenon came up.
One of the things that was hasbeen the subject of attempted
cancellation is the americanflag.
In fact, there's a famouspolitical activist I can't think

(01:01:06):
of her name right now wholiterally proposed a new
american flag where, like, thecolors changed and all this kind
of shit, et cetera.
And so what?
What happens is that Well, thenational anthem.
Right, no, no, no, everythinglike that.
So they say the American flag,um, uh, it makes people feel bad
.
The American flag, uh, makes,uh, gives people anxiety.

(01:01:29):
You know we're not going to flythe American flag in certain
places.
And then what happens?
These professional divisionsewers get a hold of that and
then they blast it and, yes,they exaggerate it.
So it's a combination of like.
When you hear a sound like aguitar okay, an electric guitar
if you play without theamplifier it doesn't sound like
anything.
But once you turn the amplifieron, you know it makes all the

(01:01:49):
noise so it's a combination ofthe phenomenon exists, and then
they amplify the phenomenon andthen it takes a hold of people's
mind.
So in the past 10 years,because of, because of people
wanting to say that there'ssomething wrong with the
American flag, it drives otherpeople to be like you're trying
to take the American flag away,I'm going to put it on my car,

(01:02:10):
I'm going to put it on my house,I'm going to put it on my
fucking windows and that createsagain.
It's both things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
But the reason why I bring that up is because the
reason I think that theseparation has happened and it's
not me, it's myself and theHispanics, this fucking phone
man, God damn, shut the fuck up.
You're supposed to have a facedown like, like I know, man, but
fuck, it's hard to do that.
What I'm saying is that I thinkit's the american flag maybe

(01:02:38):
that has separated us, right?
So then, the reason whyremember, I told you the white
wedding and the black side onthe white side and everything
like that um, in the last fiveyears, hispanics are usually
very american flag and veryamerican because, holy shit, we
had to escape hell.
Yeah, I had to come on afucking trip boat to come over

(01:03:00):
here and leave communism.
So, yeah, man, I'm fuckingamerican, right?
So maybe it's that, like,specifically, it's the american,
the love of America and the useof the American flag that has
kind of separated the countryinto into two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Right?
No, no, I don't think so.
I think it's.
I think it's the people thathave these ridiculous fucking
notions about the flag and thatit stands for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
You know, racism and everything stands for racism,
and then it's fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Everything stands for keeping people down and the
colonialism, you know, and likethis fucking bullshit, extreme
left, ideology, right, and thenthat creates an equal and
opposite reaction.
So the more people that thatare the fuck the american flag,
then you get the oppositereaction.
It's like dude, I have an, Ifly an american flag at my house

(01:03:52):
.
Like it hangs over my garage,Okay, but when we joke in our
texts, it's like you guysaccused me of being a Democrat.
I'm dude.
I've been a registeredRepublican my whole life.
In fact, I voted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Republican.
You're technically.
On paper you're more Republicanthan I am.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Right, and I mean with very few exceptions.
I vote Republican in almostevery election, not for anything
other than usually.
I think they're that those arethe candidates that better align
with my, with my views on likefiscal conservatism.
And you know, it used to bemore of a party of like leaving
people alone, ok, and I thinkthat they've gotten away from

(01:04:27):
that a little bit, you know.
So it's like it's verydifficult to say like, for
example, very difficult to saylike, for example, you know, oh,
I support, you know, parentalchoice, parental choice in
schools, but then you want tolike ban parents from like
taking kids to a fucking trannyshow.
It's like.
So it's.
Can the parents choose, or canthe parents only choose if they
choose what I like?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
So saying is it's very.
That's a tough one.
I mean they've, I know, but butit's, the democrats have taken
it to the fucking extreme.
So, hey, man, you can't.
If I see your kid transitioning, I I don't have to tell you
about it.
I mean, so now it's like you'refor you're, like you're being
forced into it no, and again but, but, and see but, but here's
and I get it and I know whatyou're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I'm glad you brought that up, because one of the
things that has always been aRepublican principle is the
concept of states' rights, asmaller federal government Right
.
And take the abortion issue,which is a hot button issue.
Okay, like me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I'm so in the middle on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
No, me personally, Me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
What are you on that?
I'm pro-choice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Okay, okay, I'm pro-choice, okay, okay, I'm
pro-choice.
That being said, i-.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I could argue.
Can you argue both sides,though?
Because I could argue bothsides?
Yeah, of course I could arguethe fuck out.
I know you're an attorney, I'ma lawyer, it's my job.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I know, but I'm pro-choice.
And the reason why 100?
Yeah, I'm pro-choice.
Okay, I'm pro-choice.
And the reason why is because Ithink that that is a more
republican value than banning it.
Okay, like because I'm forsmall government.
Yeah, like I don't want thegovernment to the extent I'm
going to do possible.
I don't want the governmenttelling me what I can and can't
do.
To the extent possible,obviously, the government tells
us what we can and can't do inevery level of our lives.
Can we go outside and drive 150miles an hour?
No, we can't.
Can we kill people?
No, we can't.

(01:06:20):
So obviously there are laws andthere are rules and that's a
form of the government tellingus what we can and can't do.
But my point is to the extentpossible, I don't want the
government telling me what I canand can't do.
Similarly, even though I'm prochoice, I am content.
I am fine with any state whosedemocratically elected

(01:06:45):
legislators ban abortion in thatstate.
You want to know why?
Because that's democracy'sdemocracy, dude.
So, like, my wife will bewatching tv and it'll be like oh
, alabama just passed like asweeping abortion ban and she's
like this is fucking ridiculous.
Like you know, the federalgovernment should like make it.
That's what they voted for, butwhat I'm saying is that's what
those people voted for, so it'slike so miami is going to vote

(01:07:08):
different or afford thedifferent than what in seattle.
You know right, so incalifornia.
So and that goes back to thething about the school so in
california that's what they lovethat's what they fucking love,
and that's what I love, thetranny shit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And if you're a, republican.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
You should embrace that because you should believe
in the concept, not embrace thephilosophy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Embrace that that's what they want to do over there.
That's how democracy, and ifyou lived there you're obviously
OK with it, so good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
That's how democracy works.
So, again, in my view, we've,we've.
People lose sight of theirinconsistent.
Everyone is like.
You know, I used to have a conlaw professor that used to say
where you sit depends on whereyou stand.
Ok, on which side of the, onwhich side of the room, for
example.
So it's like dude you, you know, it's like the, the people, the

(01:07:56):
inconsistency on both sides isjust incredible, like.
So if you're consistent and andand I have what I believe are
consistently republicanprinciples, small government,
fiscal conservatism, states,right you can't nitpick and
choose what you want like youhave to.
There has to be immutableconcepts that guide your
politics.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
That's the way I do it.
So there is no perfectcandidate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Right Politics are not team sports.
There's a great article I'llsend it actually in the chat and
we should, we should, we shoulddo a podcast on it on the
analysis about how and whenpolitics started to become more
and more polarized.
And it was because CNN broughton a guy from ESPN.
I'll never forget I forget theguy's name, but I'll never

(01:08:41):
forget watching the video andthey do this analysis on how,
all of a sudden, they started tomake these political talk shows
look like sports talk shows,where they have people on two
sides and they bring people onto just be agitators.
So if you notice on CNN,they'll have like five people
here that are left leaning andthen they'll bring the one

(01:09:03):
Republican guy and they'll sithim over here.
And his job will just be toagitate them and say the most
outrageous shit.
And they did that.
Why?
Why?
To drive ratings up, right?
So so the concept goes away.
It used to be that people werelike oh, I miss the days when
the news walter crunkite wouldcome on and just give us the
facts and it's like yeah, butyou know why that was possible?

(01:09:25):
Because, as we discussed, fourchannels there was four fucking
channels, bro, but when there's44 channels, all about you gotta
make the most noise you gottahave, you gotta get eyes, you
gotta get clicks.
So so sensationalism and think,going away from the, the
importance of things a hugeconcept in philosophy too.

(01:09:45):
It's like how can you be agreat doctor if you have to be a
doctor to make money?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
like you can't like by definition.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
You know it's like doctors recommend surgeries that
people don't really need,because they need to fucking
c-section.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
C-section right because they need to like 30
years ago nobody had c-section,now it's c-section because you
make fucking 30 grand orsomething contrary to the
hippocratic oath yeah, right,like you know you're supposed to
take care of people, but theproblem is you have these
conflicts all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Same thing with being a lawyer.
You know, listen again, I'mprobably not a millionaire
lawyer because I routinely are amillionaire.
I would.
Ok, whatever, no, no, I wishI'm a Miami millionaire, Nice
car, but don't ask me for 50bucks.
So, so what happens is even thecast is laughing.

(01:10:34):
What happens is I routinelytalk people out of like hiring
me because what I want to do istake the fee, right, but then
I'm like man, that's not, thisis, it's, that's me winning,
that's not like solving theproblem, okay, and, and I think
a lot of good professionals dothat.

(01:10:55):
But then there are guys, bro,that they'll take anything, bro,
like they'll take any.
You walk in, you have thebiggest shit case ambulance
chaser type.
Yeah, no, and the biggest shithold on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I can't talk, the fuck is she power calling or
power?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
texting power, calling um you, they that you'll
have this fucking issue.
Bro, you know that, um, it'slike people don't do what's best
for, like as part of theirprofession, like they don't do
what they're supposed to dobecause they have this
overarching obligation togenerate money.
You know, and and again I'vesaid it a few times today the

(01:11:33):
country is is very backwards ona number of things, like we've
lost our way on a number ofthings.
Allegiance to the country,education is bad, the
polarization is bad and and it'sdifficult to undo, it's like
inertia, it's like trying toturn a cruise ship.
You know, that's fuckingsliding, fucking downhill, you

(01:11:53):
know, and you don't have anypropulsion.
I mean, it's just, it's verydifficult to to correct these
issues and it's like you saidthe other day uh, it's a.
I hate to agree with you, butyou said something like we need
a really fucking like a bad war,like you know, like we need a
claim it's that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
it's that old Five billion people have to disappear
.
Easy times create weak men,right?
And that's the stage we're atright now.
We're weak men, right?
Did you see the JD Vance?
Now all the JD Vance stuff iscoming out and he's grilling the
FAA with all the, the, the,that world, that FAA world, the,

(01:12:33):
the, the flight industry, andeverything is as bad as it's
been in my lifetime.
And they had a fucking 120 page, fucking memo on not using the
word, the word airman, and likeand like, you know, and like the
word wife JD Vance is like.
Well, tell me how the word wife, like comes into it.

(01:12:55):
And of course it's a the guywho's in charge of the FAA.
I don't, and I'm going to befair.
I don't know if he's qualifiedor not, right, but he's a black
man, right.
I don't know if he was put intheir DI or not, but you see
what I'm saying, guys.
Whether he's, whether he earnedthe job or not, is one thing,
but now he's going in there andnow everything is the,

(01:13:15):
everything, the fucking way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Answer to how does he ?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
didn't know how to answer the word wife.
He didn't know how to answerthe other one, the other and the
other weird questions.
He said look, the pilots thatare coming in the next years or
so are not going to look like meand you.
We need to have more inclusivelanguage in our, in the way we
operate, to be able to get thesepeople over here, which the guy
was very eloquent, to be honestwith you.

(01:13:38):
He at the the fucking out ofall the dei morons that I've
seen, motherfuckers preparedright like he was ready to.
He answered all the questions,he was smooth with his answers
and everything.
But again, it's all based on.
There was another one likeeverything had to be like super
in the middle because you,you're erasing they wanted to
erase gender from the flightsituation from air communication

(01:14:02):
and I'm a big disney fan, to beclear.
I just came back, actually, butthey don't say boys and girls
anymore right, they say friendsyou know what I'm saying, like
where did gender become an issue?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
no, and for how many?
What size segment of thepopulation?
Point what, like you, can't saykevin?

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
what, what?
What percentage of thepopulation is gay?
And we should and we could, wecould.
What deduct 50 from that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
because the well by the way, have you seen that bill
bill mayer skit on on like thepercentage of you know of gay
people in the over time andwhere they are?
Yeah, have they grown, and atthis point it's like 50.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
He's like are like are all the babies coming in the
wrong bodies now you know, it'slike now again and, by the way,
but you also, you also saidthat they were all in in
particular areas, proving thepoint that it's a social issue,
yeah, and a mental um that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
what's the name of that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
super hot chick that has three tranny kids megan fox,
all the kids, oh yeah, wereborn one gender and they're the
other gender now, yeah, allfucking three.
Yeah, like, what are thefucking chances?
Again, it's, you're born gayman.
Listen, I have a conversation.
I've had the conversation withboth of my kids.
Hey, listen, I'm gonna behonest.

(01:15:12):
Rather not, it's a pain in theass, right, I'm gonna be honest,
it makes life harder it makeslife harder.
I think any gay person wouldabsolutely admit that, but I
would love you just the same.
I've had to have thatconversation because not that
any of them are showing signs ofit, but I I want to get that
out of the way a little bitbecause you don't want to.
You don't want that stigmatizeit well, yeah, and you don't
want I joke around about it allthe time.

(01:15:34):
You know I I'll even throwjokes, hey, you know, like if
elijah wears pink or somethinglike that.
But hey, listen man, you knowI'll fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
You know I'm still gonna love you, right, and
that's like that's.
That's what what most peoplewould call not, I'm sorry,
that's what most left-leaningpeople would call toxic
masculinity.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, Like you can't even make it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Have you seen the South Park episode?
No, that's the thing.
There needs to be more of this,bro.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
South Park has slid under the radar for years, Like
nobody ever has and ever willthey have these.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
the kids are like in Congress, okay, like they're
testifying before like a Housecommittee and they're being
grilled on their use of the wordfaggot.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And they're like no, but wedon't mean it because he's gay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
We just mean it like an insult.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You know, like, like they stumble, trying to explain
it, but then they explain itlike so well, you know, and it's
like dude, I don't think I'veever used that word to an actual
to homosexual and or or to orto insult someone yeah, of that
right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah, it just became like being gay is not an insult,
right, you know what I meanLike that's not insult.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
You don't tell them that's not insulting, it's just,
it's, it's just slang.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Oh you know, and that's another reason why I hate
that we fucked up the zoomthing because I wanted to talk
to to don't want to be calledAfrican-American, like he's
literally told me.
He goes like dude, I, uh, I, uh, I, I.
I mean, I've been to Africa,I'm not African, I'm American,
right Cause I also one of thethings that Calvo said the other
day which, by the way, we'llmention Calvo a lot he's a buddy

(01:17:03):
of ours, that uh, that uh, he'sextremely lefty Right and he,
he brought up the.
What president was it that?
But basically we shouldn't be.
I shouldn't even be callingmyself and I agree with it.
I should not be calling myselfCuban American.
I'm American, cuban of anything, right.
I'm like, why am I CubanAmerican?
Why am I putting the communistfucking shit country that I came

(01:17:26):
from Right, that I had to, myfamily had to escape on a
fucking shrimp boat, why am Iputting that above?
America, right, like I'm.
I'm making a call right now AllCubans, stop calling yourself
Cuban American.
You're American, cuban, Right.
And he mentions the same thing.
He's like I'm black American,right Like.
At the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
So I will say American black.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Right, well, right, he might've said that, he might
have said that, but you know, Iwanted to talk to him about,
like, all the different wordsthat can't be said and why they
can't be said, but again wefucked up the Zoom one more time
so we couldn't do that.
But you know, it's like.
You know, like again.
Yes, I've been called a spicwho gives a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
No, did you know that who?

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
gives a fuck.
What does speak mean?
By the way, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
It's a bad word for I've been called an oe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Have you ever been called an oe before chico oe, I
mean it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
So a few years ago, that buddy of mine that I
described from law school um, hewas celebrating on facebook
because the of the WashingtonRedskins logos had lost.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I was in Cleveland the other day.
I was in Cleveland last week.
It was not the ClevelandIndians anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
No, it's called the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
No, no, that's the football team.
He's talking about the baseballteam.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, cleveland Indians.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Yeah, it's not the Indians anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Man, unless I drove by the wrong stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I said cleveland guardians the guardians, wow so
so so get this so a few yearsago.
Many of the washington redskinslogos lost their copyright
protections after a certainamount of time 20 years.
I think it goes into the publicdomain, right, and he was
celebrating that because now,like people, could use it and

(01:19:14):
this and that, and and you know,and he, he was a firm believer
in the need for the redskins tochange their name right which
finally dan snyder, the owner,he finally relented, and it was.
He was very funny for for oneyear he was, like he named him,
the washington football teamhe's like let see this can't
piss anyone off, but now I readthe other day that there's a

(01:19:36):
group of Indians that are suingthe Redskins Because they want
to be called Indians again.
They want it to be the Redskinsand they want to bring the logo
back, Because that logo wasactually of a real-life chief
that existed.
And he was like every time theytook the field they were
honoring the guy, so that's whythe answer is like again the
pendulum well, but that's whythe answer is do whatever you

(01:19:57):
think and if you upset anybody,right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
and, by the way, if there's any black people that
are going to call me racist forwhat I've said today, uh, I'm
cuban, which means I, I amliterally half black, half
spanish, all.
So so fuck you, like, like,like, literally.
You go to Cuba.
Before you any attacks or anystupid comments.
I mean, first of all, wewelcome stupid comments, but if

(01:20:22):
you're going to do any of them,just go on and Google Cuba,
right?
Cubans?
What are Cubans?
There was didn't I send it theother day the Cuban.
There's a, there's an Instagramthat has the makeup of all
these Colombians and instead ofCubans, yeah, it's black,
spanish and basically what.

(01:20:47):
It is the reason why I'm brown.
Guys, there's a black person ofwhat two generations back, my
grandfather, my mom's side, ismulatto.
Oh, look at that guy, this guy.
Can we get him on the podcastone day?
You think, doubt it?
Yeah, I doubt it too.
Um, you know, and uh, and mydad's side is spanish.
So, uh, yeah, before you, uh,you, uh, start being a fucking
idiot um, again.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
And that's the thing, bro, that's it's so quick to
attack people with that yeah youknow it's like it's like it's
just tired and again, I thinkpeople are getting sick of it.
People are getting people aregetting sick of the
oversensitivity, bro.
People are getting sick of theinability to say anything.
You know, it's like it's it'sand frankly, I think Trump's
been a big, a big part of that.
Trump has kind of you know he's, he's.

(01:21:27):
He's a talk about a guy whodoesn't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, jesus Christ, yeah.
So are you a bigger fan of himnow that he got shot or that he
has been convicted 75 times?

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
No man, Well, no, I don't.
I personally don't think thatthe with the exception of the
New York case, which I thoughtwas embarrassing to have brought
those charges.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
You know I believe in the system.
Maybe it's because I'm a lawyerum, it's not the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
It's not a perfect system.
There are, there are bad judges.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
They're like, just like the cops you don't think
the democrats have just targetedhim and and nobody else would
have gotten targeted by, I think?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
that putting it, I I would agree that he has been
targeted.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
I don't like saying things like the democrats okay
because it makes it seem likeit's a democrat, but it's a,
it's a da.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
That's absolutely a fucking democrat and has that
makes it seem too widespread,like I don't believe that
there's a room full of democratssitting around.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
No, no, it's that one .
How they're going to know it?
No, no, it's the culture ofdemocrats that has created that
one da, that fucking hateseverything republican and and
found the smallest littlebullshit that, that valuation of
his real estate and all thatstuff everybody does.
I mean, that's just.
That's just the way developersfunction.
That's just the way you knowyou get a piece of property and

(01:22:48):
you fucking value it at what youknow.
It's called a pro forma.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
But what happens is that you get you, you alienate a
lot of the population becausethere are people that again,
there's a failure ofaccountability.
People are like if people don'tsucceed, it's because they were
held down, is the point youwere making.
So that's why, you know, youget these kids now that they're
like eat the rich and thesethings, and it's like, oh, it's

(01:23:14):
like it's like again, again,it's the rot.
The rot is deep because thelack of education, coupled with
the amplification of, ofpolarizing issues, coupled with
people that are out there whosejob it is to make americans hate
other americans, you know, andit's just really, it's like a
wildfire is now out of control.
You know it was a controlledburn and now it's just gotten

(01:23:37):
fucking out of control and noamount of water is going to turn
it off.
No, we're, uh, we're about anhour and a half in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
So yeah, we're out of time.
Um, ethan, can you go on arecord here and saying we're not
gonna fuck up the next zoomer?
Careful ethan, he thought aboutit, I mean but isn't that what
you're supposed to do last time?

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
I did, but last time you had it on a different set
with your computer or it wasright here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Okay, can we set it up for all setups, or I don't
know.
Just can we?
Yeah, you know.
So you're going on recordsaying we're going to figure
this fucking shit out.
What do you think, richard?
I lost it today, to be honest,but I'm rooting for him.

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