August 19, 2024 • 39 mins
Join us as we celebrate our 50th episode on the Real Life Investing Podcast. We couldn’t have reached this milestone without our listeners, our virtual assistant Ricel, and the incredible guests who shared their wisdom and experiences. This episode is a heartfelt reflection on our journey, highlighting the transformative impact of the 75 Hard program, with inspiring stories from Nicky De Leon (Ep #8), Jon and Keira Quintero (Ep #15), Paige Henneman (Ep #33), James and Mhariel Stirgus (Ep #46), and many more. Each of their personal growth journeys have been nothing short of inspiring, and we are grateful to share them with you.
From house hacking to dream homes, we also dive into the personal tales of real estate success stories. We recount Tim Botsford's (Ep #14) leap into an investment property, Brian and Ashley DeSimone's (Ep #20) house hacking partnership, and Levi and Lindsey Kane's (Ep #16) pursuit of their dream home. These stories emphasize the importance of transparency and vulnerability, not just in real estate but in all aspects of life.
As we look to the future, we remain committed to discussing important and sometimes taboo topics, encouraging authentic and relatable dialogue. Influential conversations with guests like Dave & Amanda Lee (Ep #47) on Faith, Family, and Freedom, Leslie Dirnberger (Ep #45) and Kate Salas (Ep #48) on homeschooling, and Melyssa Garten (Ep #41) on her experiences in China and her family business have enriched our podcast journey.
As we reflect on these impactful episodes and look forward to the next 50, we thank you for being a listener! Here's to continuing these meaningful conversations, learning from diverse perspectives, and investing in real life together!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of the Real Life
Investing Podcast with Jasonand Rachel Wagner.
This is a celebration of 50episodes, so this is actually
going to be the 51st episode,but we can reflect on 50 full
episodes that we've done, whichis amazing if you actually think
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about it.
Did you ever think that wewould do 50 episodes?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I mean we just like hit our two year mark Our
first episode, published July25th 2022.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh yeah, so we've been doing it for two years.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Two years yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah yeah.
It took us two years to do 50episodes.
We kind of had some like ups anddowns with it and yeah, for
sure, we're on a pretty goodcadence right now, though Part
of it was like our life waschanging a lot.
We moved in, you know, just alot of other distractions that
were making it a little bit moredifficult.
But now we're at a pretty goodcadence of at least producing
(01:01):
the episodes, because we have abetter systemization and we have
help.
We actually Rissell, who is ourvirtual assistant and a huge,
huge resource for us atGreystone, but she helps us edit
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, she's awesome.
She's so quick.
Instrumental it's way moreefficient.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh yeah, just instrumental in, you know,
actually getting these, theseepisodes, published and then
also contributing towards themarketing of some of that stuff
too.
So yeah, pretty awesome 3,000downloads, just about, just
about 3,000 downloads.
And I think, you know, thefirst thing we should do is just
say thank you to anybody thatactually listened, and
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especially those that reachedout and, you know, gave us a
comment on, you know, one of theshows, and and, of course, all
the guests that we invited to beon the show.
I don't think that we would havebeen doing this for two years
straight if we didn't haveanybody listening, Right, I
think it just goes to show, likeyou know, especially like in
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today's age where there's somany podcasts, there's so many
things that you know you couldput between your ears.
And our shows aren't short, youknow.
They're not 10 minutes.
Most of them are an hour, Someof them are an hour and a half.
I mean, our longest was threehours and you know we sincerely
appreciate you choosing to hearthe conversations that we're
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having and, again, I think itjust fulfills us knowing that
people are listening and youknow, and if anybody does
actually comment and say, hey,you know, this has been
relatable to me and I appreciatewhat you're doing, Like that
kind of keeps me going, I wouldsay oh yeah, the there's been
several people who have reachedout and either shared, like you
know, the reaction to the showor personal experience that they
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had that was related to what wewere talking about, or just
like engaged in conversationabout the, you know, sensitive
topics we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's been surprising to me and my most
favorite thing by far is thatit's opening conversations and I
feel like early on in a coupleof those episodes I kind of said
I just think we need to behaving more conversations.
Everybody in the world needs tobe having more conversations
about different types of things,and this podcast has kind of
been a catalyst to facilitatethat and it's been really
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awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, and we heard that from somebody where they
were like Jason, you may notrealize it, but your shows cause
conversations in our household.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Like, like, how, how cool is that comment?
You know, and that's the wholepoint of this is that we're
bringing the dinner tableconversations and we're just
broadcasting them, and I thinkit just helps people realize
that the struggles are real andwe're just talking about them
openly and hopefully that bringssome just alignment or a little
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bit more clarity to maybe someof the questions that people
have always had.
So yeah.
Yeah, so anyways.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So let's kind of reflect a little bit, let's kind
of go through these 50 episodesof what were some big takeaways
and some highlights here and Ithink the most like common
recurring takeaway that we'vehad on the show has been with
regards to 75 hard, like thatfirst episode we did then kind
of trickled to other peopledoing 75 hard and then those
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people came on the show andshared their story and now we've
had several people on the showshare their 75 hard story and
it's been really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, totally.
I mean yeah, we've had a numberof 75 hard people.
Dave and Amanda Lee were one ofthem.
Nikki DeLeon an exceptionalshow with Nikki DeLeon.
And let's see who else was Johnand Kira Quintero, episode 15.
That one was outstanding.
Let's see Lindsay Levi andLindsay they talk about because
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Lindsay did 75 Hard, and it waslife-changing for her.
So she's you know she's got alot of 75 Hard in there.
Ira Torres, you know that wasepisode 18.
She did 75 Hard.
Let's see who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
M 18.
She did 75 hard.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Let's see who else do we have.
Manny, manny, yes, yeah, marieland Mariel and James Yep yeah.
Yep, yeah, manny Estrada, yep,episode 32.
Oh, paige, oh, how could weforget about Paige?
Oh man.
Just you know super inspiring,oh man, just you know.
Super inspiring.
And for how young she is youknow, to be doing 75 hard and to
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be completing it yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And you know the common theme that we heard from
everybody who came on the showto share their 75 hard story
right after we like turned offthe recording device.
It was like, man, I'm reallyglad that I like sat there and
took the time to reflect, likeit was really like an experience
for the person on the show tosit there and be asked that many
questions about 75 hard becausethey had done it.
And then they just kept goingRight.
They kept going like with theirtasks, with their new toolbox
of things, and hadn'tnecessarily sat there and been
like reflected on the growththat had occurred.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, and I and I think that's cool that, yeah,
you bring up a great pointbecause most, most people will
ask you, well, how'd the programdo?
And maybe you'll talk about itfor a few minutes with somebody
who's just asking and passing.
We sit there and talk to youfor an hour or more about the
life changing things, or moreabout the life-changing things,
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and I mean people just go, theygo deep right and it's helped
their relationships and it'shelped their mindset, it's
gotten them clear on wherethey're going.
A lot of them have returned tothe program and, you know, still
incorporate a lot of thosetasks in their daily life and,
you know, just just a monumentalprogram that we couldn't like
speak highly, more highly of.
And it's not just our testimony, it's all, it's all of our
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guests too, which has beenreally cool.
They all say the same thing.
So, yeah, we had some realestate shows.
We talked about how we firstgot started in real estate.
We talked about how we wentfrom zero to 13 rentals at the
time.
We have 19 now.
We talked to one of ourpartners, Tim Botsford, and how
he started as a house hacker andhow that deal ended up going.
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That was a really funconversation because now Tim has
actually moved out of thatproperty and he owns it just
straight as an investment now.
And really, really great storythere because it ended
beautifully.
Levi and Lindsey Cain I meanjust one of the best house
hacking into their dream homestories out there.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Your story is so inspirational, oh my gosh, just
man.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We had some audio issues on that one, but it
didn't matter because the storywas so good.
We've kind of had some goof upswith our audio when we were
first starting the podcast,right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah Well, we've come a long way in learning.
I mean, the first show that wedid we actually recorded on our
phone right, yeah, we did.
We recorded it on the yeah, nowwe have a whole setup.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we're talking about getting a studio.
Where can we build out a studio?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
in our home, I know, yeah I mean, I still like it
from the dining room table,because this is kind of fun yeah
you know, we just invite peopleover to our house and or we've
gone to them yeah, we did that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We did that with james and mariel and we walked a
few times.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yep, yeah, same with lindsey and levi.
Yeah, we went to their houseand and did it.
Dave and amanda we went totheir house and did it.
So that's what makes Amanda.
We went to their house and didit.
So that's what makes it cool.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Jordan Warner talked about hisfirst real estate purchase.
We also went through.
I gave some one-on-one episodes.
You and I both did a couple ofone-on-one or solo episodes.
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I talked about midterm rentals.
You talked about your embracingvulnerability and Rachel's why,
and the journey throughmotherhood and NFL auditions.
So you kind of got into yourbig life moonshot goals and you
know and really shared yourstory, which was really cool.
I think you got a lot of greatcomments from having those out
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there, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh yeah, I mean, I think the biggest lesson I had
from that is I always been soafraid to share that part of me
out of embarrassment or judgmentor not being good enough, you
know.
And the lesson that I had fromthat was I had so much support
and positive feedback and evenpeople reaching out to me being
(09:25):
like hey, like you've inspiredme to now chase something that
I've always wanted to do too,you know, so that was super cool
.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I think you kind of like.
The big takeaway here is thatif you're more transparent,
you're able to help and relateto somebody that you don't even
know, and a lot of us are justso fearful to even just put
ourselves out there that, ohwhat if you know I can't take
the critics or I can't take whatpeople would think of me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
If.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I were to say these things, but in reality, I mean,
is it true that you've receivedmore positive feedback than
negative feedback?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And even on like the lessinspiring things and more
sensitive topics, like some ofthe stuff we shared about with
COVID or about childhoodvaccines, has allowed people to
reach out and be like hey, Ilistened to this and I
completely agree and there'slike a sense of relief that they
have that they can finallyshare that with somebody and
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have somebody to connect with on.
And I know from my perspectiveit's reciprocal of like, yeah,
gosh, I finally have somebody tolike, not feel so guarded with,
and can share information andtalk to about it and share
concerns and just vent.
You know, I mean, everybodyneeds that kind of outlet and
it's hard to find sometimes withthose more sensitive topics.
(10:41):
So us taking that leap of goingout there and talking about
that has opened the doors forconversations that we likely
would not have otherwise had.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you would never.
If you don't put yourself outthere, you, you never know the
type of bond that you could havewith somebody who's also
potentially thinking the sameway or even even better, in my
opinion, people that just don'teven aren't even aware, right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And some of that too, where it's like, wow, I had
never even heard of that orthought of that until you guys
mentioned it and now I needed alittle more.
Right, there's this realizationof, like gosh, I didn't know
anything about that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, yeah, and so you know, we try to educate a
little bit and we're alsolearning at the same time.
These are all, just, like youknow, these are the
conversations that again, thatany family is considering and
that's why we just try to bringit to you live.
You know, as we consider, hey,you know, should we follow the
vaccine schedule?
Should we have the COVID shot?
(11:38):
You know what are the risks inthere and like, let's, let's
actually walk through themindset and you know the the
what if scenarios, right, Ithink being a parent in today's
world is is somewhat exhausting.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like I was talking with my mom this morning and I
was just kind of venting to herabout the last couple of days.
I've just been like a littlemore stressed and emotional
about certain things that havebeen happening and she's like,
you know, I'm just, I'mexhausted in the efforts of
trying to do the right thing formy kids.
You know it's challenging andit's hard and there's a lot of
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unknowns and it's like, on theone hand, a little more ignorant
is certainly bliss, you know,because the more you know it's
like, the more you worry about,which isn't really necessarily a
good thing.
But at the same time, the moreyou know, the more you're like
okay, holy cow, I don't, I don'twant that.
How can I choose somethingdifferent?
Right?
(12:33):
Yeah, it can be a littleexhausting sometimes yeah,
ignorance Ignorance is blisssometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, but at the same time, do you want to be
ignorant?
No, right, no.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Cause.
When, like Ms Jamie was on herea couple of days ago and I
loved what she says, where she'slike when you know better, you
do better.
She said that several times.
When you know better, oh, yeah,yeah, miss jamie, just like
tons of knowledge.
Oh, she's phenomenal.
Oh yeah, like she, I want tolike bring her on.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just talk about like parenting, yeah she is not just
a swim instructor like holysmoke, she's got, she's got
layers and layers of just wisdomyeah, in there.
That was a fantasticconversation like this is the
fun part.
It's just like you get to knowthese people on such a deeper
level and we had some lessonstoday and I asked her if she
listened to her episode.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
She's like, oh yeah, I was like pleasantly surprised
to hear like how I sounded andyou know, thought it was a great
conversation and great Cheryl'slike it was fabulous, you were
great.
And she's actually likecontemplating thinking about
doing like her own show.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And I'm like you would be great.
Yeah, she would be.
Yeah.
And it's so funny because allit takes is for because this
happened to me.
I got invited onto a podcast itwas RJ's Mindset Matters
podcast and I got all worked upabout it and I was like, oh boy,
I'm nervous, Everybody'snervous, when they come walking
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in our door Right.
And you know, by the end of theshow they're like, oh my God,
I'm so glad I did that, Like itwas just, it's just so much more
engaging.
It's fun.
You know, the the mic is on therecorders here, all the
equipments here kind of.
You know, nerves you a littlebit, but then you just relax.
What's funny is that I thinkI've said this to a lot of
people.
As they left, I'm like, yeah,chances are you probably want to
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start your own podcast, Becauseit's fun, it's really fun to
have these conversations withpeople.
So I'm glad to hear that.
Miss Jamie, I think she's got alot to offer for sure.
Who else had a lot to offer?
Who was also very wise fortheir young age?
Hayden Humphrey, Remember him.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh yeah, wise for their young age.
Hayden humphrey, remember him.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh yeah he was our first guest was he our first
guest he was the first guest wetalked about coaching with him.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
We each coached with him he did six months.
I did a year and you know Iwill say the coaching that, at
least for me I'll speak formyself the coaching I did with
him over a year is still comingup for me almost daily.
There'll be something that,like, I'm working through my
head and I'm thinking about itand there'll be, like a piece
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that he had shared in a coachingsession or something that he
taught me that comes up for metoday Like his coaching is still
coaching me.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh, it's so good, he's, he's fantastic.
So, good and, in my opinion, hewas undervalued in terms of,
like, what he actually broughtto us.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh, yeah, like.
I said I mean, that was threeyears ago now and I'm still like
processing some of the thingswe talked about, like I'm still
I feel like implementing andlearning from the coaching
sessions that we had.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh yeah, just tremendous.
I'm so glad we invested thatmoney into having a life coach.
At that time, when we weredoing 75 hard, we were kind of
like we did it to like theextreme.
I guess, right, we did 75 hard,we did coaching at the same
time, yep.
And then we did live hard andyeah, that was just like
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instrumental he's.
He's got so many lessons.
That was a great show.
We also yeah, I mean part ofHayden's stuff.
We talked about the 12-hourwalk and vision boards and we
try to do that as kind of likeour goal setting a little bit.
We've actually printed offvision boards and we have them
hanging up on the wall.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, I'm actually getting ready to do my annual
goal setting for the year.
I put it on the calendar so Iactually have it.
So we also did a training withGreystone.
That was about the law ofattraction and I know all this
energy.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You had a cup, you had some coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
today, I had some coffee.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Rachel's leg is like going crazy, both of them.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If you look like I'm literally both of my legs are
bouncing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm not just shaking this entire time, bouncing
obnoxiously shaking this entiretime.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Good thing we're not recording this one video, but so
we did that law of attractiontraining that's what it's called
, right, a training that we did.
And then, at the same time, Iuse those law of attraction
planners, and there's like alittle insert in there that
gives you like a link to ahundred questions that you
should ask yourself every yearand I did it last year for the
first time where you go throughthis hundred questions to ask
yourself they're in all of thecategories of law of attraction
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and then that's how you set your50 goals.
They want you to write out 50different goals, which seems
crazy, but it's actually.
I know it's not that hard tocome up with different things
you want to do, though, becauseyou check all the categories of
your life and then you put themon a timeline between one to
five years, like are theylongterm, short term, girls, or
whatever and then you know youcreate your vision board from
there, so I'm getting ready todo that again.
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It was very effective last year.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I don't know if I want to do a vision board,
because everything has come trueon mine, I know, except the
chickens.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I don't have chickens yet.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But chickens.
I don't have chickens yet, butthe minivan came through the zip
code going to disney, disney,gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Just I just gotta go to bali and get some chickens
and I'm good to go yeah, well Iguess I didn't make the team
either there's still that, Iknow, yeah, I don't feel done
with that yet.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, yeah, no let's see that was that was a
fantastic conversation.
And let's see that was that wasa fantastic conversation.
And let's see who else you wantto talk about David, amanda Lee
.
Oh, just the only repeat so far.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
There'll be some more repeats.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
There's for sure there's going to be other
repeats, but so far they're theonly repeats.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, what I would, what I would say about them, is
their second episode.
You could really sense thegrowth and the comfort that came
that second time around of likenot being as guarded, I feel
like in their sharing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, so they were episode 47, faith, family
and freedom.
And that was our first nearlythree hour episode.
We talked about all kinds ofstuff.
Yeah, extremely engaging,extremely engaging that entire
time.
I'm really glad that we wentthe length with them.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, they're just such influential people in our
life.
I just look up to them so muchand how they're raising their
family, how they focus on theirmarriage and just type of people
that they are really, reallyadmire them.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They're always just like and they're the ones that
introduced 75 hard to us.
There's always somebody who wasit that, like you know,
initiated it with you, right,and kind of set a goal for
myself where I was, you know,trying to influence like 100
people, to do 75 hard, because Ithink it's just, it's that
monumental.
I think I got to like 40, whichis still pretty badass, but it
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all came from like, think aboutit, it for Dave, right.
So Dave and Amanda were theones that introduced it to us,
who then were able to impact 40people through me and so I think
some other people too.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I think, oh, and they've touched other people,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And think about the people that you know I've been
able to impact, who have thenimpacted their friends or their
family members.
It is a massive web thatactually stems from David and
Amanda Lee, you know, and that'spowerful and that's really,
really cool.
Yeah, we had another businesspartner, a couple, Brian and
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Ashley D Simone.
We did a house hack with them.
We talked about their journeyand that's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Live in rehab too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, that property is doing well and they
still live there and, yeah, it's, it's going great.
We talked to your sister aboutGen Z insights, navigating high
school politics and the pandemic, and that was episode 19.
Yeah, we had a couple.
The most recent, actually the50th episode, we talked to other
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high schoolers which were ourbabysitters, campbell and Kelly,
and I'm really thankful that wedecided to talk to a younger
generation to get into theirmindset and just kind of know
what's going on.
There's one thing to just hearabout what's happening in the
schools through the media or,you know, word of mouth type
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thing, but there's another thingto actually have a real
conversation with somebody thatis sitting in those desks right,
and for them to be vulnerableand to open up to us.
In my opinion, because a lot ofhigh schoolers they keep things
from their parents, they keepthings from the older crowd,
right.
I think it's really cool to beable to have that type of
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connection.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I hope we can also branch the other way too
and bring on some people fromolder generations.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be.
We've had some talks yeah, We'vehad some talks about that about
you know, some of the boomergeneration to kind of come on
and walk us through some mindsetthings.
And yeah, it'd be veryfascinating, let's see.
Oh, yeah, well, we talked toAndrew Caldwell, who was at
Illinois state university and heis our summer intern here at
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Greystone and you know he's donesome great things for us this,
uh, this summer.
It's been fun to talk with himand the reason I got connected
with him was that he is part ofthe Illinois State University
Real Estate Club and so I hadsomebody reach out to me from
that club to come down and speakand you know it was cool to
actually make an impact on, youknow, some of the students there
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and then for Andrew to say youknow, and out and to say, hey,
you know, can I come intern foryou this summer?
And, you know, just create aposition.
So that's what we kind of didand it's been fun.
We had Sean Good.
Sean Good came on and he talkedabout estate planning and
protecting your legacy Supereducational episode.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Because, again, I don't know nothing about estate
planning and I'm so glad wetalked to him and it's actually
so important for people that ownreal estate and especially
married couples.
But we talk about all differentkinds of like family dynamic
situations in that episode andwhy estate planning is actually
so important so that you canavoid the probate and so you can
avoid massive costs in the caseof somebody dying, so that you
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can avoid the probate and so youcan avoid massive costs in the
case of somebody dying.
So those are like just goodepisodes to get some knowledge
on Melissa Garten, Censorship,Family Business and Critical
Linking.
Yeah, Episode 41.
Very interesting Actually.
We had a lot of people say, boy, I really liked hearing about
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Melissa's experience in China.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, several people talked to me about her episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, she's such an interesting person.
She's so interesting, she's sowise.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so wise.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Let's see who else Leslie Dernberger homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, leslie's phenomenal homeschooling.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, leslie's phenomenal, yeah yeah, just a
wealth of information with herand, you know, I think is
helping us make some decisionson you know, is homeschooling
going to be an option for us andwhy are people even considering
homeschooling Right?
And I think, as we haverecognized that the trends of
there's more and more peopledoing their homework, on
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homeschooling, I think it speakstowards the times and there's
reasons, there's underlyingreasons behind all of that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, to be perfectly honest, I feel like that's one
of my biggest I don't know how Iwould describe it obstacles or
decisions that I feel like I'mfacing right now is whether or
not to do that.
It feels like a very, very bigdecision, but, as I talked to
more and more people who've beenin and out of it, it's like it.
It doesn't need to be thatdecision because you can
transition and adapt back andforth.
(24:12):
Should you make the decision todo homeschool, you can actually
change your mind and go back towhatever school you want.
But that that is certainly, likeI feel, like a really big
decision on my plate right now.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
School you want, but that that is certainly like I
feel like a really big decisionon my plate right now.
Yeah, yeah, well, and we, youknow, you know you have Leslie
who I think she had four kids,four kids that she homeschooled
and you know, and now she's, shehas a business where she helps
parents identify the besthomeschooling curriculums and
she has a whole system for howshe's able to pair you with, you
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know, homeschooling resourcesand at which I think is
brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And we talked to Kate Salas, who's a mom that's doing
homeschool right now, and Ithought that was a great like
just transition, because we gofrom somebody who is, who can
give you all the resources.
But then we also brought in aconversation of here's what it's
like for me right now doingthis, and I think that was that
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was really telling and I thinkit gave a lot of confidence if
we do decide that we do want tohomeschool our children, you
know we've got fantasticresources right at our
fingertips here.
You know that can make itsuccessful and I think that's
why that's why we're doing this,that's why we're having these
conversations, so we're kind oflike, you know, investigating
further.
And then Miss Jamie Miss Jamiewas great.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, oh, we already talked about her, but she, we'll
talk about her again.
She was great.
So, miss Jamie, bringing theISR swim lessons into our life,
and I was episode 49.
We own a pool and our biggestfear was having our two kids
fall in the pool and not be ableto self-rescue.
And Miss Jamie is theinstructor that has basically
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transformed our kids intoself-rescue machines.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, Phenomenal sw-rescue machines.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, phenomenal swimmers, Just phenomenal yeah,
they had lessons today.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
and Layla is doing the breaststroke she just turned
three in July, like it's just.
And even Miss Jamie herself islike shocked by that too.
She's just like, wow, look atwhat she's doing.
And Scarlett just turned fiveand is doing front crawl,
backstroke, elementarybackstroke, breaststroke, just
doing all the things.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So I think Miss Jamie has been able to show us that
kids are capable of doing waymore than you ever thought.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and it sparked me after we did the podcast
episode with her.
It sparked me to reach out tosome of our current
extracurricular providers orpeople like hey, like do you
guys offer private lessons?
Or like cause, after we didthat episode with her.
It's like, hey, like do youguys offer private lessons?
Or like cause, after we didthat episode with her.
It's like gosh, like this wholemindset of do a brief period of
a lot of practice when you'restarting to learn something,
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because then the weekly practicethat you're going to do from
there on out you're going to getway more out of because you
already know how to do the basicskills.
Like I used to teach dance.
I taught dance for like 10years and it made me rethink of
gosh.
Like if I were to ever startdoing that again or have the
opportunity to own a dancestudio or something like, the
way I would structure a newstudent program would be very
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different.
I think I would kind of mimicthat ISR system because it's
going to give kids way moreconfidence when they go into
group class.
You know, an activity likedance and probably really
anything is like you have to goacross the floor, you know, so
you kind of have to do a skillin front of other people as
you're learning it, which isreally kind of like scary right,
like you hold yourself back alittle bit because you don't
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want to fall or you don't wantto embarrass yourself or do it
wrong when everybody's watching.
But if you have that opportunityfor a few weeks up front where
it's private lessons, you know,just for a brief period of time,
so not a long-term investment,but just initially wow, like I
just think that's a brilliantapproach.
And so I've reached out to someof our kids' other instructors
like hey, is there a differentway we can do this, because this
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seems to work really well.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, I think it's a brilliant way to think about it,
because, you know, if you justgo hard at something for a short
period of time, but you'redoing it day in and day out,
like you're just going toaccelerate the skillset, like
she brought up the whole pointof you know, I don't know how to
play golf.
Well, I play golf like once ayear and I've always said to
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myself, boy, I wish I was betterat golf, but I just don't have
like the time.
If I were to learn golf rightnow, I would do the exact same
thing.
Right, it's like, all right,every single day for this month
I'm going to go hit a hundredballs or whatever.
I feel like by the end of thatmonth, that would be pretty damn
good, at least a lot better.
Yeah, daily disciplines well,cool, cool, what.
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Oh, we got into some politics.
We talked about bobby kennedy,we talked about trump, we talked
about biden it's not relevantanymore it was not relevant.
Where is he?
Is he even running the country?
No no, we've.
We've known that for a longtime.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He's not running the country it's just like he just
like ever since he announced hewasn't running, he just also
disappeared.
So it's like he's not only notrunning, he's just not working
either yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
It's a very unsettling situation that's
happening there.
But yeah, yeah, so we, we talkabout a lot of things.
What do you think as we moveforward here, what do we want to
kind of harp on?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
In this episode or for the show.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No for the show, Like what's your, what's your vision
on the next 50 episodes.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, I think we're going to continue to share our
progression in business, ourprogression in parenting, our
progression in life, becausewe're learning as we're doing
this.
I mean if, when we started thisepisode, if you would have
asked me if we were going totalk about homeschool, like it
wouldn't have even reallycrossed my mind, right.
So I think we'll continue toshare our questions and our
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lessons learned and obstaclesthat we're facing, because it's
relevant, like you've said, likethere's parents and business
owners and just people are outthere wondering the same things
that we are having conversationsabout, the same things we are.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So yeah, yeah, and I guess you'll never.
You'll never actually feel somethings are taboo, some things
are very taboo.
And how do you initiate thoseconversations?
Sometimes you can't, but if youthrow on a podcast, you can
talk about it or like you hearit in your ears.
It starts helping your thoughtprocess around it.
Hey, did you listen?
Maybe you share the show withsomebody.
(30:31):
Hey, did you listen to that?
What do you think of that?
Right?
So then maybe there's moreconversations that are happening
outside.
That's what that's like thebrilliance of what Joe Rogan did
when he had Bobby Kennedy comeon.
I was just listening to Tucker.
He was talking to.
I think his name is Dave Smith,a comedian, and he talked about
how Dave Smith was saying thatone of the stupidest things that
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Trump could have done was startto bash Rogan.
Because Rogan was kind ofsaying that hey, I really I like
Bobby Kennedy, I think he's gotgreat values and like like it
was almost like an endorsementtype thing and I kind of agreed.
I was like why, you know youshouldn't attack joe rogan,
because joe rogan did incrediblethings during covid yeah, and
(31:13):
for him really, trump was kindof an indirect beneficiary of
big time his actions, yeah bigtime, big time.
And you know, and it's becauseof the podcast, but it's because
Rogan wasn't afraid to askquestions and get the people on
that were willing to share andput themselves out there.
Bobby Kennedy was one of them,peter McCullough was one of them
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.
That's why it was those twoepisodes that were, in this case
, this Tucker episode.
In this case of this Tuckerepisode, they called him heroic
because they were speakingthings that weren't allowed to
to be spoken.
They were allowed, but they'rereally not allowed.
Right, there's the taboo part.
And now we're in a world of.
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There's a lot of people thathave started to, I don't know,
just see the curtain come back,right, like.
I feel like there's a lot ofawakening that has happened.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's become more mainstream, right Like
conspiracy theorists are nolonger actually really
conspiracy theorists are nolonger actually really
conspiracy theorists.
I feel like there was one pointI wanted to make before we we
shift into kind of that topic.
But the whole thing about trumpand saying you know, gosh, I
was really dumb of trump doing.
Trump has done so many stupidpolitical moves and that's part
(32:31):
of the reason why I kind of likehim is because he's really not
a politician, he is just a guywho has run these huge
businesses.
He just says what comes to mindpros or cons for him, right
Like it's not always smart, it'snot polished, it's not always
friendly, but I appreciate thein the moment honesty of just
(32:56):
saying what he thinks and notmaking everything political.
I am so fed up and sick ofpolitical moves and political
agendas and you know the fluffand you know I can't stand
listening to politicians.
I actually couldn't standlistening to jd vance, because
anybody who's talking thatfluffy and swaying and
(33:19):
instrumental beautiful campaignspeech.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I can't handle it.
Yeah, you're talking about jdvance's speech at the rnc.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I, I , actually I can't even like
comprehend or listen to thatanymore, and I agree, I had a
hard time with that one too.
There's been plenty of thingsthat Trumpism I think are really
, really stupid.
You know we've talked aboutsome of them, but I'm just like,
well, I mean, I would ratherhim kind of do those types of
things than be a politician.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Did you listen to the spaces?
The replay of Elon and Trumptalking.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I haven't listened to the whole thing.
I just listened to the briefsegment that we listened to
together.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, and it was so funny because I think
you, you saw the, uh, the shareof all of the negative headlines
.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It was.
There was probably like what 40or 50 that were shared in just
one little screenshot of all ofthese negative headlines, of
that space conversation, whichwas just so funny, between Trump
and Elon and in my opinion, Ithought it was like, I thought
it was a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's just like this yes, it's just a conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It was a, it was a candid conversation about Elon,
who is the smartest entrepreneurof all time, the most
influential person in the wholedang world because of his
inventions and his execution andwhat he's been doing, and he's
just casually sitting down withDonald Trump and talking about
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the main issues that everybodyhas and and actually also coming
up with.
Well, here's solutions to someof these things you know he
talked about how.
You know he he wants to be apart of a government efficiency
program.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, that was really that would be great yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Trump goes on to say, Trump goes on to say well, you
talk about cost cutting.
You're the best cost cutter ofall time.
You bought a company and youare able to operate it with a
fraction of the amount of peoplethat were actually there.
Think about that whole conceptwith the government right, and
that could do to inflation andprices, because now we're not
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spending so much, Now we don'thave to collect as much taxes
because we're not spending asmuch, right?
All of a sudden, the world islike just a better place if that
type of thing were to happen.
Seems to make a lot of sense tome.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So anyways we were talking about Joe Rogan and him
being heroic with what he wasdoing.
Well, yeah yeah, Circled back,but yeah right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And well, and that's what's.
That's what's led to, you know,acts and Twitter being the
place for freedom speech and youknow, in that being more
mainstream is that people canexpress their opinions.
Now, because we know that we'vebeen censored before and we've
been able to defeat some of that, at least combat it not defeat
(36:03):
it, but at least combat it.
And you know there are peoplethat have differing opinions
that have turned out to be rightand you've seen the blatant
lies and manipulation that wasused against those opinions and
so, anyway, it's just beingaware of that stuff, right, and
(36:23):
it all comes down to like thepodcast is kind of the platform
that has transformed a lot ofthis.
So I know our podcast is small,but you know we're doing our
part.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's growing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, anyways, all right.
Well, any other thoughts youwant to wrap up?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think you're right, pup.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Okay, what was your biggest takeaway, as we just
reflected on all 50.
Well, I don't know.
That's episodes.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't know, that's hard.
I don't know if there's atakeaway today.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's no takeaway.
No, okay, very good, all right,no takeaway today I'm thinking
but what's your takeaway?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You always ask me first.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, you're the lady , the lady should go first, so
not just a quorum.
Uh, well, you're the lady, thelady should go first, so not
just a quorum.
My big takeaway is that I thinkyou just keep going right.
And I think just in anything.
You just keep going and resultswill eventually come, just like
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our show.
We've gotten a lot of justfulfillment out of just
continuing to do it and invitingpeople and it leads to more and
more conversations and thoughtprocess.
But the moment that we decidethat we don't want to do it and
inviting people and it leads tomore and more conversations and
thought processes, but themoment that we decide that we
don't want to do this anymore isthe moment that a lot of these
conversations will probably stop.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I mean I think that that helped me kind of
gather my thoughts.
The last episode we did weactually haven't published it
yet, but the moment the two highschoolers, kelly, wrapped up by
saying you know, my biggesttakeaway was the value that
these conversations bring, and Ithink that's kind of been the
theme of this last 50 episodesis the value that they have all
brought to us and, knowingly,the other people that have
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reached out to us and shared isit's brought value to our
relationships and a lot of valueto conversation and I guess
that's been my biggest takeawayis kind of an unexpected return
on investment and unexpectedvalue and connection that's come
from it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Big time, yeah, big time, yeah, yeah, that's awesome
, all right, thanks.
Thanks, rach.
Thanks for your takeaway.
All right, guys, if you foundany value in the show, please
share it.
We're excited to continue onand hopefully for another 50
more episodes.
So thanks for listening.
Please share the show and we'llcatch you on the next one.
Welcome back to another episode of the Real Life
Investing Podcast with Jasonand Rachel Wagner.
This is a celebration of 50episodes, so this is actually
going to be the 51st episode,but we can reflect on 50 full
episodes that we've done, whichis amazing if you actually think
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about it.
Did you ever think that wewould do 50 episodes?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I mean we just like hit our two year mark Our
first episode, published July25th 2022.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh yeah, so we've been doing it for two years.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Two years yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah yeah.
It took us two years to do 50episodes.
We kind of had some like ups anddowns with it and yeah, for
sure, we're on a pretty goodcadence right now, though Part
of it was like our life waschanging a lot.
We moved in, you know, just alot of other distractions that
were making it a little bit moredifficult.
But now we're at a pretty goodcadence of at least producing
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the episodes, because we have abetter systemization and we have
help.
We actually Rissell, who is ourvirtual assistant and a huge,
huge resource for us atGreystone, but she helps us edit
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, she's awesome.
She's so quick.
Instrumental it's way moreefficient.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh yeah, just instrumental in, you know,
actually getting these, theseepisodes, published and then
also contributing towards themarketing of some of that stuff
too.
So yeah, pretty awesome 3,000downloads, just about, just
about 3,000 downloads.
And I think, you know, thefirst thing we should do is just
say thank you to anybody thatactually listened, and
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especially those that reachedout and, you know, gave us a
comment on, you know, one of theshows, and and, of course, all
the guests that we invited to beon the show.
I don't think that we would havebeen doing this for two years
straight if we didn't haveanybody listening, Right, I
think it just goes to show, likeyou know, especially like in
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today's age where there's somany podcasts, there's so many
things that you know you couldput between your ears.
And our shows aren't short, youknow.
They're not 10 minutes.
Most of them are an hour, Someof them are an hour and a half.
I mean, our longest was threehours and you know we sincerely
appreciate you choosing to hearthe conversations that we're
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having and, again, I think itjust fulfills us knowing that
people are listening and youknow, and if anybody does
actually comment and say, hey,you know, this has been
relatable to me and I appreciatewhat you're doing, Like that
kind of keeps me going, I wouldsay oh yeah, the there's been
several people who have reachedout and either shared, like you
know, the reaction to the showor personal experience that they
(02:47):
had that was related to what wewere talking about, or just
like engaged in conversationabout the, you know, sensitive
topics we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's been surprising to me and my most
favorite thing by far is thatit's opening conversations and I
feel like early on in a coupleof those episodes I kind of said
I just think we need to behaving more conversations.
Everybody in the world needs tobe having more conversations
about different types of things,and this podcast has kind of
been a catalyst to facilitatethat and it's been really
(03:17):
awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, and we heard that from somebody where they
were like Jason, you may notrealize it, but your shows cause
conversations in our household.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Like, like, how, how cool is that comment?
You know, and that's the wholepoint of this is that we're
bringing the dinner tableconversations and we're just
broadcasting them, and I thinkit just helps people realize
that the struggles are real andwe're just talking about them
openly and hopefully that bringssome just alignment or a little
(03:51):
bit more clarity to maybe someof the questions that people
have always had.
So yeah.
Yeah, so anyways.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So let's kind of reflect a little bit, let's kind
of go through these 50 episodesof what were some big takeaways
and some highlights here and Ithink the most like common
recurring takeaway that we'vehad on the show has been with
regards to 75 hard, like thatfirst episode we did then kind
of trickled to other peopledoing 75 hard and then those
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people came on the show andshared their story and now we've
had several people on the showshare their 75 hard story and
it's been really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, totally.
I mean yeah, we've had a numberof 75 hard people.
Dave and Amanda Lee were one ofthem.
Nikki DeLeon an exceptionalshow with Nikki DeLeon.
And let's see who else was Johnand Kira Quintero, episode 15.
That one was outstanding.
Let's see Lindsay Levi andLindsay they talk about because
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Lindsay did 75 Hard, and it waslife-changing for her.
So she's you know she's got alot of 75 Hard in there.
Ira Torres, you know that wasepisode 18.
She did 75 Hard.
Let's see who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
M 18.
She did 75 hard.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Let's see who else do we have.
Manny, manny, yes, yeah, marieland Mariel and James Yep yeah.
Yep, yeah, manny Estrada, yep,episode 32.
Oh, paige, oh, how could weforget about Paige?
Oh man.
Just you know super inspiring,oh man, just you know.
Super inspiring.
And for how young she is youknow, to be doing 75 hard and to
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be completing it yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And you know the common theme that we heard from
everybody who came on the showto share their 75 hard story
right after we like turned offthe recording device.
It was like, man, I'm reallyglad that I like sat there and
took the time to reflect, likeit was really like an experience
for the person on the show tosit there and be asked that many
questions about 75 hard becausethey had done it.
And then they just kept goingRight.
They kept going like with theirtasks, with their new toolbox
of things, and hadn'tnecessarily sat there and been
like reflected on the growththat had occurred.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, and I and I think that's cool that, yeah,
you bring up a great pointbecause most, most people will
ask you, well, how'd the programdo?
And maybe you'll talk about itfor a few minutes with somebody
who's just asking and passing.
We sit there and talk to youfor an hour or more about the
life changing things, or moreabout the life-changing things,
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and I mean people just go, theygo deep right and it's helped
their relationships and it'shelped their mindset, it's
gotten them clear on wherethey're going.
A lot of them have returned tothe program and, you know, still
incorporate a lot of thosetasks in their daily life and,
you know, just just a monumentalprogram that we couldn't like
speak highly, more highly of.
And it's not just our testimony, it's all, it's all of our
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guests too, which has beenreally cool.
They all say the same thing.
So, yeah, we had some realestate shows.
We talked about how we firstgot started in real estate.
We talked about how we wentfrom zero to 13 rentals at the
time.
We have 19 now.
We talked to one of ourpartners, Tim Botsford, and how
he started as a house hacker andhow that deal ended up going.
(07:11):
That was a really funconversation because now Tim has
actually moved out of thatproperty and he owns it just
straight as an investment now.
And really, really great storythere because it ended
beautifully.
Levi and Lindsey Cain I meanjust one of the best house
hacking into their dream homestories out there.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Your story is so inspirational, oh my gosh, just
man.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We had some audio issues on that one, but it
didn't matter because the storywas so good.
We've kind of had some goof upswith our audio when we were
first starting the podcast,right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah Well, we've come a long way in learning.
I mean, the first show that wedid we actually recorded on our
phone right, yeah, we did.
We recorded it on the yeah, nowwe have a whole setup.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we're talking about getting a studio.
Where can we build out a studio?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
in our home, I know, yeah I mean, I still like it
from the dining room table,because this is kind of fun yeah
you know, we just invite peopleover to our house and or we've
gone to them yeah, we did that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We did that with james and mariel and we walked a
few times.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yep, yeah, same with lindsey and levi.
Yeah, we went to their houseand and did it.
Dave and amanda we went totheir house and did it.
So that's what makes Amanda.
We went to their house and didit.
So that's what makes it cool.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Jordan Warner talked about hisfirst real estate purchase.
We also went through.
I gave some one-on-one episodes.
You and I both did a couple ofone-on-one or solo episodes.
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I talked about midterm rentals.
You talked about your embracingvulnerability and Rachel's why,
and the journey throughmotherhood and NFL auditions.
So you kind of got into yourbig life moonshot goals and you
know and really shared yourstory, which was really cool.
I think you got a lot of greatcomments from having those out
(09:03):
there, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh yeah, I mean, I think the biggest lesson I had
from that is I always been soafraid to share that part of me
out of embarrassment or judgmentor not being good enough, you
know.
And the lesson that I had fromthat was I had so much support
and positive feedback and evenpeople reaching out to me being
(09:25):
like hey, like you've inspiredme to now chase something that
I've always wanted to do too,you know, so that was super cool
.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I think you kind of like.
The big takeaway here is thatif you're more transparent,
you're able to help and relateto somebody that you don't even
know, and a lot of us are justso fearful to even just put
ourselves out there that, ohwhat if you know I can't take
the critics or I can't take whatpeople would think of me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
If.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I were to say these things, but in reality, I mean,
is it true that you've receivedmore positive feedback than
negative feedback?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And even on like the lessinspiring things and more
sensitive topics, like some ofthe stuff we shared about with
COVID or about childhoodvaccines, has allowed people to
reach out and be like hey, Ilistened to this and I
completely agree and there'slike a sense of relief that they
have that they can finallyshare that with somebody and
(10:21):
have somebody to connect with on.
And I know from my perspectiveit's reciprocal of like, yeah,
gosh, I finally have somebody tolike, not feel so guarded with,
and can share information andtalk to about it and share
concerns and just vent.
You know, I mean, everybodyneeds that kind of outlet and
it's hard to find sometimes withthose more sensitive topics.
(10:41):
So us taking that leap of goingout there and talking about
that has opened the doors forconversations that we likely
would not have otherwise had.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you would never.
If you don't put yourself outthere, you, you never know the
type of bond that you could havewith somebody who's also
potentially thinking the sameway or even even better, in my
opinion, people that just don'teven aren't even aware, right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And some of that too, where it's like, wow, I had
never even heard of that orthought of that until you guys
mentioned it and now I needed alittle more.
Right, there's this realizationof, like gosh, I didn't know
anything about that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, yeah, and so you know, we try to educate a
little bit and we're alsolearning at the same time.
These are all, just, like youknow, these are the
conversations that again, thatany family is considering and
that's why we just try to bringit to you live.
You know, as we consider, hey,you know, should we follow the
vaccine schedule?
Should we have the COVID shot?
(11:38):
You know what are the risks inthere and like, let's, let's
actually walk through themindset and you know the the
what if scenarios, right, Ithink being a parent in today's
world is is somewhat exhausting.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like I was talking with my mom this morning and I
was just kind of venting to herabout the last couple of days.
I've just been like a littlemore stressed and emotional
about certain things that havebeen happening and she's like,
you know, I'm just, I'mexhausted in the efforts of
trying to do the right thing formy kids.
You know it's challenging andit's hard and there's a lot of
(12:12):
unknowns and it's like, on theone hand, a little more ignorant
is certainly bliss, you know,because the more you know it's
like, the more you worry about,which isn't really necessarily a
good thing.
But at the same time, the moreyou know, the more you're like
okay, holy cow, I don't, I don'twant that.
How can I choose somethingdifferent?
Right?
(12:33):
Yeah, it can be a littleexhausting sometimes yeah,
ignorance Ignorance is blisssometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, but at the same time, do you want to be
ignorant?
No, right, no.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Cause.
When, like Ms Jamie was on herea couple of days ago and I
loved what she says, where she'slike when you know better, you
do better.
She said that several times.
When you know better, oh, yeah,yeah, miss jamie, just like
tons of knowledge.
Oh, she's phenomenal.
Oh yeah, like she, I want tolike bring her on.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just talk about like parenting, yeah she is not just
a swim instructor like holysmoke, she's got, she's got
layers and layers of just wisdomyeah, in there.
That was a fantasticconversation like this is the
fun part.
It's just like you get to knowthese people on such a deeper
level and we had some lessonstoday and I asked her if she
listened to her episode.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
She's like, oh yeah, I was like pleasantly surprised
to hear like how I sounded andyou know, thought it was a great
conversation and great Cheryl'slike it was fabulous, you were
great.
And she's actually likecontemplating thinking about
doing like her own show.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And I'm like you would be great.
Yeah, she would be.
Yeah.
And it's so funny because allit takes is for because this
happened to me.
I got invited onto a podcast itwas RJ's Mindset Matters
podcast and I got all worked upabout it and I was like, oh boy,
I'm nervous, Everybody'snervous, when they come walking
(13:56):
in our door Right.
And you know, by the end of theshow they're like, oh my God,
I'm so glad I did that, Like itwas just, it's just so much more
engaging.
It's fun.
You know, the the mic is on therecorders here, all the
equipments here kind of.
You know, nerves you a littlebit, but then you just relax.
What's funny is that I thinkI've said this to a lot of
people.
As they left, I'm like, yeah,chances are you probably want to
(14:19):
start your own podcast, Becauseit's fun, it's really fun to
have these conversations withpeople.
So I'm glad to hear that.
Miss Jamie, I think she's got alot to offer for sure.
Who else had a lot to offer?
Who was also very wise fortheir young age?
Hayden Humphrey, Remember him.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh yeah, wise for their young age.
Hayden humphrey, remember him.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh yeah he was our first guest was he our first
guest he was the first guest wetalked about coaching with him.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
We each coached with him he did six months.
I did a year and you know Iwill say the coaching that, at
least for me I'll speak formyself the coaching I did with
him over a year is still comingup for me almost daily.
There'll be something that,like, I'm working through my
head and I'm thinking about itand there'll be, like a piece
(15:01):
that he had shared in a coachingsession or something that he
taught me that comes up for metoday Like his coaching is still
coaching me.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh, it's so good, he's, he's fantastic.
So, good and, in my opinion, hewas undervalued in terms of,
like, what he actually broughtto us.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh, yeah, like.
I said I mean, that was threeyears ago now and I'm still like
processing some of the thingswe talked about, like I'm still
I feel like implementing andlearning from the coaching
sessions that we had.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Oh yeah, just tremendous.
I'm so glad we invested thatmoney into having a life coach.
At that time, when we weredoing 75 hard, we were kind of
like we did it to like theextreme.
I guess, right, we did 75 hard,we did coaching at the same
time, yep.
And then we did live hard andyeah, that was just like
(15:50):
instrumental he's.
He's got so many lessons.
That was a great show.
We also yeah, I mean part ofHayden's stuff.
We talked about the 12-hourwalk and vision boards and we
try to do that as kind of likeour goal setting a little bit.
We've actually printed offvision boards and we have them
hanging up on the wall.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, I'm actually getting ready to do my annual
goal setting for the year.
I put it on the calendar so Iactually have it.
So we also did a training withGreystone.
That was about the law ofattraction and I know all this
energy.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
You had a cup, you had some coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
today, I had some coffee.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Rachel's leg is like going crazy, both of them.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If you look like I'm literally both of my legs are
bouncing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I'm not just shaking this entire time, bouncing
obnoxiously shaking this entiretime.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Good thing we're not recording this one video, but so
we did that law of attractiontraining that's what it's called
, right, a training that we did.
And then, at the same time, Iuse those law of attraction
planners, and there's like alittle insert in there that
gives you like a link to ahundred questions that you
should ask yourself every yearand I did it last year for the
first time where you go throughthis hundred questions to ask
yourself they're in all of thecategories of law of attraction
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and then that's how you set your50 goals.
They want you to write out 50different goals, which seems
crazy, but it's actually.
I know it's not that hard tocome up with different things
you want to do, though, becauseyou check all the categories of
your life and then you put themon a timeline between one to
five years, like are theylongterm, short term, girls, or
whatever and then you know youcreate your vision board from
there, so I'm getting ready todo that again.
(17:22):
It was very effective last year.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I don't know if I want to do a vision board,
because everything has come trueon mine, I know, except the
chickens.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I don't have chickens yet.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But chickens.
I don't have chickens yet, butthe minivan came through the zip
code going to disney, disney,gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Just I just gotta go to bali and get some chickens
and I'm good to go yeah, well Iguess I didn't make the team
either there's still that, Iknow, yeah, I don't feel done
with that yet.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, yeah, no let's see that was that was a
fantastic conversation.
And let's see that was that wasa fantastic conversation.
And let's see who else you wantto talk about David, amanda Lee
.
Oh, just the only repeat so far.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
There'll be some more repeats.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
There's for sure there's going to be other
repeats, but so far they're theonly repeats.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, what I would, what I would say about them, is
their second episode.
You could really sense thegrowth and the comfort that came
that second time around of likenot being as guarded, I feel
like in their sharing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, so they were episode 47, faith, family
and freedom.
And that was our first nearlythree hour episode.
We talked about all kinds ofstuff.
Yeah, extremely engaging,extremely engaging that entire
time.
I'm really glad that we wentthe length with them.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, they're just such influential people in our
life.
I just look up to them so muchand how they're raising their
family, how they focus on theirmarriage and just type of people
that they are really, reallyadmire them.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They're always just like and they're the ones that
introduced 75 hard to us.
There's always somebody who wasit that, like you know,
initiated it with you, right,and kind of set a goal for
myself where I was, you know,trying to influence like 100
people, to do 75 hard, because Ithink it's just, it's that
monumental.
I think I got to like 40, whichis still pretty badass, but it
(19:13):
all came from like, think aboutit, it for Dave, right.
So Dave and Amanda were theones that introduced it to us,
who then were able to impact 40people through me and so I think
some other people too.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I think, oh, and they've touched other people,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And think about the people that you know I've been
able to impact, who have thenimpacted their friends or their
family members.
It is a massive web thatactually stems from David and
Amanda Lee, you know, and that'spowerful and that's really,
really cool.
Yeah, we had another businesspartner, a couple, Brian and
(19:52):
Ashley D Simone.
We did a house hack with them.
We talked about their journeyand that's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Live in rehab too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, that property is doing well and they
still live there and, yeah, it's, it's going great.
We talked to your sister aboutGen Z insights, navigating high
school politics and the pandemic, and that was episode 19.
Yeah, we had a couple.
The most recent, actually the50th episode, we talked to other
(20:20):
high schoolers which were ourbabysitters, campbell and Kelly,
and I'm really thankful that wedecided to talk to a younger
generation to get into theirmindset and just kind of know
what's going on.
There's one thing to just hearabout what's happening in the
schools through the media or,you know, word of mouth type
(20:41):
thing, but there's another thingto actually have a real
conversation with somebody thatis sitting in those desks right,
and for them to be vulnerableand to open up to us.
In my opinion, because a lot ofhigh schoolers they keep things
from their parents, they keepthings from the older crowd,
right.
I think it's really cool to beable to have that type of
(21:03):
connection.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I hope we can also branch the other way too
and bring on some people fromolder generations.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be.
We've had some talks yeah, We'vehad some talks about that about
you know, some of the boomergeneration to kind of come on
and walk us through some mindsetthings.
And yeah, it'd be veryfascinating, let's see.
Oh, yeah, well, we talked toAndrew Caldwell, who was at
Illinois state university and heis our summer intern here at
(21:36):
Greystone and you know he's donesome great things for us this,
uh, this summer.
It's been fun to talk with himand the reason I got connected
with him was that he is part ofthe Illinois State University
Real Estate Club and so I hadsomebody reach out to me from
that club to come down and speakand you know it was cool to
actually make an impact on, youknow, some of the students there
(21:58):
and then for Andrew to say youknow, and out and to say, hey,
you know, can I come intern foryou this summer?
And, you know, just create aposition.
So that's what we kind of didand it's been fun.
We had Sean Good.
Sean Good came on and he talkedabout estate planning and
protecting your legacy Supereducational episode.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Because, again, I don't know nothing about estate
planning and I'm so glad wetalked to him and it's actually
so important for people that ownreal estate and especially
married couples.
But we talk about all differentkinds of like family dynamic
situations in that episode andwhy estate planning is actually
so important so that you canavoid the probate and so you can
avoid massive costs in the caseof somebody dying, so that you
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can avoid the probate and so youcan avoid massive costs in the
case of somebody dying.
So those are like just goodepisodes to get some knowledge
on Melissa Garten, Censorship,Family Business and Critical
Linking.
Yeah, Episode 41.
Very interesting Actually.
We had a lot of people say, boy, I really liked hearing about
(23:01):
Melissa's experience in China.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, several people talked to me about her episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, she's such an interesting person.
She's so interesting, she's sowise.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so wise.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Let's see who else Leslie Dernberger homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, leslie's phenomenal homeschooling.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, leslie's phenomenal, yeah yeah, just a
wealth of information with herand, you know, I think is
helping us make some decisionson you know, is homeschooling
going to be an option for us andwhy are people even considering
homeschooling Right?
And I think, as we haverecognized that the trends of
there's more and more peopledoing their homework, on
(23:43):
homeschooling, I think it speakstowards the times and there's
reasons, there's underlyingreasons behind all of that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, to be perfectly honest, I feel like that's one
of my biggest I don't know how Iwould describe it obstacles or
decisions that I feel like I'mfacing right now is whether or
not to do that.
It feels like a very, very bigdecision, but, as I talked to
more and more people who've beenin and out of it, it's like it.
It doesn't need to be thatdecision because you can
transition and adapt back andforth.
(24:12):
Should you make the decision todo homeschool, you can actually
change your mind and go back towhatever school you want.
But that that is certainly, likeI feel, like a really big
decision on my plate right now.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
School you want, but that that is certainly like I
feel like a really big decisionon my plate right now.
Yeah, yeah, well, and we, youknow, you know you have Leslie
who I think she had four kids,four kids that she homeschooled
and you know, and now she's, shehas a business where she helps
parents identify the besthomeschooling curriculums and
she has a whole system for howshe's able to pair you with, you
(24:43):
know, homeschooling resourcesand at which I think is
brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And we talked to Kate Salas, who's a mom that's doing
homeschool right now, and Ithought that was a great like
just transition, because we gofrom somebody who is, who can
give you all the resources.
But then we also brought in aconversation of here's what it's
like for me right now doingthis, and I think that was that
(25:10):
was really telling and I thinkit gave a lot of confidence if
we do decide that we do want tohomeschool our children, you
know we've got fantasticresources right at our
fingertips here.
You know that can make itsuccessful and I think that's
why that's why we're doing this,that's why we're having these
conversations, so we're kind oflike, you know, investigating
further.
And then Miss Jamie Miss Jamiewas great.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, oh, we already talked about her, but she, we'll
talk about her again.
She was great.
So, miss Jamie, bringing theISR swim lessons into our life,
and I was episode 49.
We own a pool and our biggestfear was having our two kids
fall in the pool and not be ableto self-rescue.
And Miss Jamie is theinstructor that has basically
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transformed our kids intoself-rescue machines.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, Phenomenal sw-rescue machines.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, phenomenal swimmers, Just phenomenal yeah,
they had lessons today.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
and Layla is doing the breaststroke she just turned
three in July, like it's just.
And even Miss Jamie herself islike shocked by that too.
She's just like, wow, look atwhat she's doing.
And Scarlett just turned fiveand is doing front crawl,
backstroke, elementarybackstroke, breaststroke, just
doing all the things.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So I think Miss Jamie has been able to show us that
kids are capable of doing waymore than you ever thought.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and it sparked me after we did the podcast
episode with her.
It sparked me to reach out tosome of our current
extracurricular providers orpeople like hey, like do you
guys offer private lessons?
Or like cause, after we didthat episode with her.
It's like, hey, like do youguys offer private lessons?
Or like cause, after we didthat episode with her.
It's like gosh, like this wholemindset of do a brief period of
a lot of practice when you'restarting to learn something,
(26:53):
because then the weekly practicethat you're going to do from
there on out you're going to getway more out of because you
already know how to do the basicskills.
Like I used to teach dance.
I taught dance for like 10years and it made me rethink of
gosh.
Like if I were to ever startdoing that again or have the
opportunity to own a dancestudio or something like, the
way I would structure a newstudent program would be very
(27:15):
different.
I think I would kind of mimicthat ISR system because it's
going to give kids way moreconfidence when they go into
group class.
You know, an activity likedance and probably really
anything is like you have to goacross the floor, you know, so
you kind of have to do a skillin front of other people as
you're learning it, which isreally kind of like scary right,
like you hold yourself back alittle bit because you don't
(27:36):
want to fall or you don't wantto embarrass yourself or do it
wrong when everybody's watching.
But if you have that opportunityfor a few weeks up front where
it's private lessons, you know,just for a brief period of time,
so not a long-term investment,but just initially wow, like I
just think that's a brilliantapproach.
And so I've reached out to someof our kids' other instructors
like hey, is there a differentway we can do this, because this
(27:58):
seems to work really well.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, I think it's a brilliant way to think about it,
because, you know, if you justgo hard at something for a short
period of time, but you'redoing it day in and day out,
like you're just going toaccelerate the skillset, like
she brought up the whole pointof you know, I don't know how to
play golf.
Well, I play golf like once ayear and I've always said to
(28:22):
myself, boy, I wish I was betterat golf, but I just don't have
like the time.
If I were to learn golf rightnow, I would do the exact same
thing.
Right, it's like, all right,every single day for this month
I'm going to go hit a hundredballs or whatever.
I feel like by the end of thatmonth, that would be pretty damn
good, at least a lot better.
Yeah, daily disciplines well,cool, cool, what.
(28:45):
Oh, we got into some politics.
We talked about bobby kennedy,we talked about trump, we talked
about biden it's not relevantanymore it was not relevant.
Where is he?
Is he even running the country?
No no, we've.
We've known that for a longtime.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He's not running the country it's just like he just
like ever since he announced hewasn't running, he just also
disappeared.
So it's like he's not only notrunning, he's just not working
either yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
It's a very unsettling situation that's
happening there.
But yeah, yeah, so we, we talkabout a lot of things.
What do you think as we moveforward here, what do we want to
kind of harp on?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
In this episode or for the show.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No for the show, Like what's your, what's your vision
on the next 50 episodes.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, I think we're going to continue to share our
progression in business, ourprogression in parenting, our
progression in life, becausewe're learning as we're doing
this.
I mean if, when we started thisepisode, if you would have
asked me if we were going totalk about homeschool, like it
wouldn't have even reallycrossed my mind, right.
So I think we'll continue toshare our questions and our
(29:52):
lessons learned and obstaclesthat we're facing, because it's
relevant, like you've said, likethere's parents and business
owners and just people are outthere wondering the same things
that we are having conversationsabout, the same things we are.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So yeah, yeah, and I guess you'll never.
You'll never actually feel somethings are taboo, some things
are very taboo.
And how do you initiate thoseconversations?
Sometimes you can't, but if youthrow on a podcast, you can
talk about it or like you hearit in your ears.
It starts helping your thoughtprocess around it.
Hey, did you listen?
Maybe you share the show withsomebody.
(30:31):
Hey, did you listen to that?
What do you think of that?
Right?
So then maybe there's moreconversations that are happening
outside.
That's what that's like thebrilliance of what Joe Rogan did
when he had Bobby Kennedy comeon.
I was just listening to Tucker.
He was talking to.
I think his name is Dave Smith,a comedian, and he talked about
how Dave Smith was saying thatone of the stupidest things that
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Trump could have done was startto bash Rogan.
Because Rogan was kind ofsaying that hey, I really I like
Bobby Kennedy, I think he's gotgreat values and like like it
was almost like an endorsementtype thing and I kind of agreed.
I was like why, you know youshouldn't attack joe rogan,
because joe rogan did incrediblethings during covid yeah, and
(31:13):
for him really, trump was kindof an indirect beneficiary of
big time his actions, yeah bigtime, big time.
And you know, and it's becauseof the podcast, but it's because
Rogan wasn't afraid to askquestions and get the people on
that were willing to share andput themselves out there.
Bobby Kennedy was one of them,peter McCullough was one of them
(31:34):
.
That's why it was those twoepisodes that were, in this case
, this Tucker episode.
In this case of this Tuckerepisode, they called him heroic
because they were speakingthings that weren't allowed to
to be spoken.
They were allowed, but they'rereally not allowed.
Right, there's the taboo part.
And now we're in a world of.
(31:57):
There's a lot of people thathave started to, I don't know,
just see the curtain come back,right, like.
I feel like there's a lot ofawakening that has happened.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's become more mainstream, right Like
conspiracy theorists are nolonger actually really
conspiracy theorists are nolonger actually really
conspiracy theorists.
I feel like there was one pointI wanted to make before we we
shift into kind of that topic.
But the whole thing about trumpand saying you know, gosh, I
was really dumb of trump doing.
Trump has done so many stupidpolitical moves and that's part
(32:31):
of the reason why I kind of likehim is because he's really not
a politician, he is just a guywho has run these huge
businesses.
He just says what comes to mindpros or cons for him, right
Like it's not always smart, it'snot polished, it's not always
friendly, but I appreciate thein the moment honesty of just
(32:56):
saying what he thinks and notmaking everything political.
I am so fed up and sick ofpolitical moves and political
agendas and you know the fluffand you know I can't stand
listening to politicians.
I actually couldn't standlistening to jd vance, because
anybody who's talking thatfluffy and swaying and
(33:19):
instrumental beautiful campaignspeech.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I can't handle it.
Yeah, you're talking about jdvance's speech at the rnc.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I, I , actually I can't even like
comprehend or listen to thatanymore, and I agree, I had a
hard time with that one too.
There's been plenty of thingsthat Trumpism I think are really
, really stupid.
You know we've talked aboutsome of them, but I'm just like,
well, I mean, I would ratherhim kind of do those types of
things than be a politician.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Did you listen to the spaces?
The replay of Elon and Trumptalking.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I haven't listened to the whole thing.
I just listened to the briefsegment that we listened to
together.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, and it was so funny because I think
you, you saw the, uh, the shareof all of the negative headlines
.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It was.
There was probably like what 40or 50 that were shared in just
one little screenshot of all ofthese negative headlines, of
that space conversation, whichwas just so funny, between Trump
and Elon and in my opinion, Ithought it was like, I thought
it was a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's just like this yes, it's just a conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It was a, it was a candid conversation about Elon,
who is the smartest entrepreneurof all time, the most
influential person in the wholedang world because of his
inventions and his execution andwhat he's been doing, and he's
just casually sitting down withDonald Trump and talking about
(34:41):
the main issues that everybodyhas and and actually also coming
up with.
Well, here's solutions to someof these things you know he
talked about how.
You know he he wants to be apart of a government efficiency
program.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, that was really that would be great yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Trump goes on to say, Trump goes on to say well, you
talk about cost cutting.
You're the best cost cutter ofall time.
You bought a company and youare able to operate it with a
fraction of the amount of peoplethat were actually there.
Think about that whole conceptwith the government right, and
that could do to inflation andprices, because now we're not
(35:22):
spending so much, Now we don'thave to collect as much taxes
because we're not spending asmuch, right?
All of a sudden, the world islike just a better place if that
type of thing were to happen.
Seems to make a lot of sense tome.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So anyways we were talking about Joe Rogan and him
being heroic with what he wasdoing.
Well, yeah yeah, Circled back,but yeah right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And well, and that's what's.
That's what's led to, you know,acts and Twitter being the
place for freedom speech and youknow, in that being more
mainstream is that people canexpress their opinions.
Now, because we know that we'vebeen censored before and we've
been able to defeat some of that, at least combat it not defeat
(36:03):
it, but at least combat it.
And you know there are peoplethat have differing opinions
that have turned out to be rightand you've seen the blatant
lies and manipulation that wasused against those opinions and
so, anyway, it's just beingaware of that stuff, right, and
(36:23):
it all comes down to like thepodcast is kind of the platform
that has transformed a lot ofthis.
So I know our podcast is small,but you know we're doing our
part.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's growing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, anyways, all right.
Well, any other thoughts youwant to wrap up?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think you're right, pup.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Okay, what was your biggest takeaway, as we just
reflected on all 50.
Well, I don't know.
That's episodes.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't know, that's hard.
I don't know if there's atakeaway today.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's no takeaway.
No, okay, very good, all right,no takeaway today I'm thinking
but what's your takeaway?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You always ask me first.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, you're the lady , the lady should go first, so
not just a quorum.
Uh, well, you're the lady, thelady should go first, so not
just a quorum.
My big takeaway is that I thinkyou just keep going right.
And I think just in anything.
You just keep going and resultswill eventually come, just like
(37:28):
our show.
We've gotten a lot of justfulfillment out of just
continuing to do it and invitingpeople and it leads to more and
more conversations and thoughtprocess.
But the moment that we decidethat we don't want to do it and
inviting people and it leads tomore and more conversations and
thought processes, but themoment that we decide that we
don't want to do this anymore isthe moment that a lot of these
conversations will probably stop.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I mean I think that that helped me kind of
gather my thoughts.
The last episode we did weactually haven't published it
yet, but the moment the two highschoolers, kelly, wrapped up by
saying you know, my biggesttakeaway was the value that
these conversations bring, and Ithink that's kind of been the
theme of this last 50 episodesis the value that they have all
brought to us and, knowingly,the other people that have
(38:03):
reached out to us and shared isit's brought value to our
relationships and a lot of valueto conversation and I guess
that's been my biggest takeawayis kind of an unexpected return
on investment and unexpectedvalue and connection that's come
from it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Big time, yeah, big time, yeah, yeah, that's awesome
, all right, thanks.
Thanks, rach.
Thanks for your takeaway.
All right, guys, if you foundany value in the show, please
share it.
We're excited to continue onand hopefully for another 50
more episodes.
So thanks for listening.
Please share the show and we'llcatch you on the next one.
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