January 23, 2025 • 50 mins
He did it again! Kevin completed his second 100-mile race (first on a trail) on January 18th and 19th, overcoming various challenges. The episode covers the logistical preparation, unexpected issues like missing fuel sources and equipment, and the emotional ups and downs both Kevin and us faced. It details the start of the race, Kevin's tactics, the importance of hydration and nutrition, and the initial loops of the course. Stay tuned next week for part two, where we discuss the race's latter stages and Kevin's triumphant finish.
00:57 Race Day Recap: The Long Awaited Details
01:48 Training Challenges and Real-Life Obstacles
02:58 Mantras and Mental Strategies for Ultra Running
05:35 Pre-Race Preparations and Last-Minute Hiccups
07:40 The Road Trip: Navigating Delays and Anxieties
23:03 Fueling Strategies for Ultra Marathons
23:53 Pre-Race Preparations and Last-Minute Shopping
27:44 Race Day Morning: The Start Line
28:56 The First Loop: Hydration Challenges
42:52 Loop Two: Running Solo and Navigational Doubts
46:52 Mid-Race Reflections and Fatigue
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Angie (00:00):
On January 18th, just a few days ago, Kevin completed
(00:04):
the Long Haul 100.
Well, I guess that's a spoileralert.
I should have said you startedit, right?
But spoiler alert, he completedit too.
And if you follow us on, followus on social media, you'll
already know that.
So Kevin started and completed,technically, I guess you
completed on the January 19th.
Technically,
Kevin (00:20):
I finished on the 19th.
Angie (00:21):
But anyway, today we're talking all about the Long Haul
100, Kevin's second Completed100 mile race and third attempt
at a hundred miles.
So if you want to hear all thefun details, stay tuned.
(00:57):
What's up runners.
Welcome to the show today.
We're here with the recap, thelong awaited recap of Kevin's
long haul 100.
Kevin (01:05):
Long awaited.
I feel like I just, I just didthe race.
Angie (01:09):
Well, we, I will say like, you know, thank you to
everyone that followed us onsocial media, um, over the
weekend.
It was super fun, you know, allof the messages and all of the
support and all the love thatjust kept pouring in.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We felt it for sure.
Um, I know that the service waspretty spotty and we'll kind of
get into that in today's recap.
Um, but I just wanted to saythank you for everyone that was
(01:31):
following along and reallycheering Kevin on in this
journey.
Kevin (01:34):
Yeah.
It's always nice.
Like every time I came through,I know you weren't doing a lot
of.
videos because of the servicewas so spotty, but it's, it's
nice to know how, how muchsupport was coming in, you know,
through social media and stufflike that.
Angie (01:45):
Yeah.
So today we're talking about therecap.
So if you missed the lastepisode, head back one episode,
you can catch like Kevin's.
Preparation for the race.
Um, he had surgery in March oflast year.
He had to have a herniarepaired.
So it was really a journey ofcoming back from that surgery
and then preparing to run ahundred miles.
(02:05):
So we went through pretty muchmost or all of his race prep in
that episode.
So if you're curious about allof that, head back to the last
episode.
And today we're talking abouthow it all went.
Because if you did listen to ourlast episode, you know that his
training was not ideal and didnot really go as he had hoped
for.
There were some things on theschedule that he wanted to do
(02:27):
that he didn't end up doingbecause he was battling, uh,
some sickness and some illnessand things like that.
So, this is real life.
We're always going to keep itreal with you guys.
And so, how did that all playout in The race.
And that's really what we wantto talk about today.
Kevin (02:41):
Right.
I mean, that's a whole, thewhole idea.
And obviously once, once werecorded that podcast,
everything else went perfectlysmooth, absolutely no hiccups.
And I felt amazing for theentirety of the race.
Angie (02:54):
Absolutely.
And that is clearly not thecase.
So.
Um, let's, so I want to startwith just kind of my motto of
the weekend.
And this is really, I think thisis kind of came to me, um, the
night before the race, which isjust keep moving forward, just
keep doing the next best thing.
And the actual motto actually,now that I think about it, I
(03:15):
actually forgot, I just saidactually like five times, um,
was make it work.
That was really the.
Theme I think of your trainingof that day traveling to the
race and then really the raceitself too was make it work and
I think that that's really agood theme for ultras in
general.
(03:36):
I know that we are not superexperienced when it comes to
ultras and we've only done threeof them so far, but there's
always.
There, there are always thingsthat are going to go wrong or
that are not going to go the waythat you want them to or the way
that you plan them to.
And you have to just figure outhow to make it work and keep
going forward.
Kevin (03:55):
Yeah.
Continuous forward progress wasreally like a mantra that I kept
saying to myself in my lasthundred at Daytona was
continuous forward progress.
Just keep moving.
Like, if.
If you're at an aid station, youknow, in the last one, if I got
to your car, every time I got toyour car, that was time that I
was not moving down the road.
And so it was, I needed to stop.
(04:17):
I needed to stop periodically,but that wasn't progress.
And when I was on the road,whether I was running or
walking, whatever it was, it wasstill progress towards the
finish.
And I think that that works for.
Every ultra I think that worksfor everything actually
Angie (04:31):
everything in life.
Absolutely And which is whyrunning is such a good metaphor
for life in general But I wouldlove to question that right away
of like I wasn't moving forwardlike you I mean technically I
mean physically
Kevin (04:44):
moving forward, but
Angie (04:45):
you have to take those stops in order for you to
continuously move forward Likethe rest stops are absolutely
necessary.
Just like they are in our normaltraining For you to keep making
that forward progress.
And I know that sometimes youget a little agitated and we'll
talk about that too.
Um, today about like how Kevinis at these rest stops and stuff
too.
(05:06):
Um, because I wasn't able tocatch as much at on film and I
don't typically like to film himwhen he's in that.
state because if you're alreadylike annoyed and irritated and
someone has a camera in yourface, that's not usually going
to make the situation better.
Kevin (05:19):
Probably not.
Yeah.
I'm sure it would have been sofunny at that time.
I'm sure it would have.
No, that's
Angie (05:24):
not your funny time.
No, your funny time comes afterthat, like, and so we can talk
about that because now thatKevin has done three of these,
I've also started to see sometrends, which is kind of fun
too.
So.
All right.
So.
As a little short recap, Kevinran 100 miles.
It was a 16.
7 mile loop that he did sixtimes on a trail.
So it was his first trail ultraas well.
(05:46):
Um, so it
Kevin (05:46):
was at least 16.
8, possibly close to 17 miles.
Let's be clear.
Angie (05:51):
Let's be clear.
Yeah, because on his watch, so Imean, you can tell them that
spoiler alert right away.
Kevin (05:56):
Yeah.
I hit a hundred miles and I'mstill like in the middle of the
woods.
Like I couldn't see the finish.
I couldn't see where your carused to be.
Like I, I was very far from thefinish line when my watch
clicked over to a hundred, Ifinished it like 101.
8 or so.
Angie (06:12):
Yeah.
So it's funny, like when peopleget really mad about, you know,
marathons being like 26.
5 versus 26.
2, you can probably understandthe level of.
Annoyance and frustrationpossibly, but like knowing that
you're going to run a hundredmiles and having to do almost
two extra miles that had to havebeen tougher mentally.
Kevin (06:31):
Well, I mean, you know, what's coming to you.
Cause the race director said wewheeled it out, depending on,
you know, how accurate yourwatches and how far you veer off
of the course and, and twistsand turns, cause you're, you're
running through the woods.
So it's constant twists andturns and stuff.
He goes, most of you willprobably be coming in somewhere
around 101 miles when you crossthe finish line.
So like you knew it was coming.
Angie (06:52):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was like, this isbasically a hundred miles, you
know, like you should, Iremember him saying that at the
beginning before the racestarted was you will get over a
hundred miles.
Some of you might get more thanthat.
Kevin (07:04):
Right.
And I mean, honestly.
It's, I would rather be slightlyover than slightly under on
something where, you know, theaccuracy of measuring a trail
course, don't give me 99.
7 on my watch.
I am big on, I'll stop wheneverI get back to my house on a run
that's.
eight ish miles.
If I'm doing 100, I am doing 100miles.
(07:26):
I would have run through thatlittle tent city there, high
five some people, I would nothave run.
I would have walked through tentcity and high five some people,
but I was in triple digits.
Angie (07:36):
Yeah.
So, all right.
So let's go back and talk alittle bit about.
the day and the weekend and kindof what our experience was like.
So Friday, I, yeah, I think we,we start with Friday.
Do you want to start beforeFriday?
No Friday.
Okay.
So Friday, Kevin went to work,the girls went to school and I
had, you know, I work from home.
So obviously I had things to doat, at home as well.
(07:58):
I, however, overscheduledmyself.
So I will take fullresponsibility as, especially as
crew chief.
that there were things that Iput on my calendar that day that
should not have been on mycalendar.
I put like a call with our newprogram, which I absolutely
loved, but I should have knownbetter when I was scheduling out
these calls.
This should have been part of mythinking ahead of time is, you
know, Ange, don't put this callat noon if you guys are trying
(08:21):
to leave around one o'clock or 130 considering like, you know,
you're not going to just get offthe call and be ready and then
be able to walk out the door.
Like, I know better than that.
So that was poor planning on mypart and also one of, um, the,
that something that highlightsone of my, uh, weaknesses and my
faults of like thinking that Ican do everything in 15 minutes
(08:43):
or a much shorter period oftime.
Yeah, yeah, I
Kevin (08:46):
mean, really for it to have timed out perfectly, you
would have had to end your calland step into the car.
Angie (08:50):
Basically, no, not step into the car, but like, we would
have had to have everythingpacked up and essentially ready
to pack up the car and let go.
Kevin (08:57):
In a most ideal world, we would have actually made it
there in time for their,optional but highly suggested
meeting at five o'clock thenight before.
Angie (09:05):
You never even told me about that to be fair until that
day, I think, or possibly thenight before, but I'm pretty
sure it was that day.
Kevin (09:13):
I think I skipped over that part in the race packet
because it's there.
Like, I know it's sitting therein the race packet.
And to be
Angie (09:18):
fair, I didn't read the race packet, so I probably
should have done that.
So that's on me.
Kevin (09:22):
So we both have a little bit of blame, but then there was
also issues.
There's no
Angie (09:26):
blame.
There's just responsibility.
And I think that Well, and Ithink that both of us, you know,
we've talked about this in ourmarriage as well of taking 100
percent responsibility becausethat is one of my faults.
One of my negativecharacteristics is that I am
continuously trying to noticeand get over is like not
assigning blame to other people.
That is not.
Like that's something I used todo all the time, especially as a
(09:47):
kid.
Like I would always try to findsomeone to blame because I
didn't want to be the one toblame.
And so I would always blameother people.
And I've been working on a lotof like, no, no, this was a
hundred percent myresponsibility.
And there were even times duringthis weekend with our girls and
things like that, that we'lltell you about in a couple of
things coming up where I.
The initial response was blameand then I'm like, no, no,
(10:07):
that's my fault.
Like, I'm going to take that onmyself.
So, not necessarily blame, butjust like owning our own
responsibility.
Kevin (10:13):
But then there was plenty of responsibility on my own of
making sure that I ordered allthe appropriate fuel and that it
was at our house in time to putin the car and then drive.
And I did not.
Order in time.
And so then there were someshipment delays.
And so on the day of, instead ofbeing able to pack the car, I
had to go off to a speciallyrunning store and get some extra
(10:35):
fuel to make sure that I hadenough calories.
Angie (10:37):
Okay.
So to explain some details onthis, there was a specific kind
of fuel that Kevin wanted to usecalled carbs fuel, right?
Kevin (10:45):
Yes.
Angie (10:46):
And it was, why did you want to use this one?
Kevin (10:49):
So it's a huge amount of calories in one little gel
packet.
So it's like, it's 50 grams ofcarbs per packet.
And it's not as thick as some ofthe other gels, so it's supposed
to go down really smooth.
Angie (11:01):
But you never practiced with this in training.
Kevin (11:03):
That is true.
That is very true.
Angie (11:05):
Right.
And so I think it was maybe ablessing in disguise that this
order didn't come in because Iwas questioning, I'm like, why
are you going to use somethingon race day?
Like, that's literally what wetell people never to do is like,
try things on race day thatyou've never practiced with
before.
And that was going to be one ofyour main sources of fuel.
Now during a hundred, and thiswas kind of your Uh, response to
(11:26):
me.
Go ahead, you say it.
Kevin (11:28):
It was not going to be my only source of fuel.
Angie (11:31):
But it was supposed to be your main source of fuel.
I
Kevin (11:33):
was going to be taking in roughly one per hour.
Angie (11:35):
Yeah.
Kevin (11:35):
And that's, I mean It is a
Angie (11:37):
main fuel source.
Yes.
And you didn't know how yourbody responded to it.
Which is why, like, In 100 mileraces, there's obviously aid
stations and there's going to bethings that you possibly consume
at those aid stations thatyou've never practiced with
before.
But they're usually kind of likea one off type of thing.
Kevin (11:53):
Small cups of ginger ale continuously throughout the
whole race.
Did
Angie (11:57):
you?
Kevin (11:57):
Oh yeah, all the time.
Hey look, it's ginger ale.
That sounds delicious.
Let's put one of those guysdown.
Angie (12:01):
You did that during this race?
All
Kevin (12:02):
the time.
You
Angie (12:03):
didn't mention that when I was All
Kevin (12:04):
the time.
When I
Angie (12:05):
was asking you, like, what did you take in at the aid
stations.
Kevin (12:07):
Because you were, you were writing down things that
were like You know, substantialcalorie.
Like you were trying to makesure that I was getting enough
calories and it was not, it waslike the smallest little, like
it's
Angie (12:18):
still important for us to write it down so that we know
how your stomach reacts.
Kevin (12:21):
Yes.
But like picture, like the, thelittle tiny plastic cup of
mouthwash
Angie (12:26):
that you get
Kevin (12:27):
at like the dentist office, that's the size and they
weren't like filled to the brim.
Angie (12:30):
And were they all flat too?
Kevin (12:32):
No, no, no.
They kept, they were freshlypouring them continuously for
hours and hours.
So
Angie (12:36):
there was carbonation in it.
Yes.
Interesting.
But yeah, you know, in our, inyour last hundred in Daytona,
you had like a cup of ramen,you'd obviously had never
practiced on a cup of ramen, butthat's exactly what you needed
at that time.
Yes.
Slurpee was great for you too,but we also, you never.
specifically practiced with aSlurpee, but we know in theory,
Slurpee was like a really greatidea for you at that point in
(12:58):
time.
Kevin (12:58):
In theory, it's like, it's a giant cup of ice and
sugar.
Angie (13:01):
I mean, it wasn't going to go worse than how you were
already feeling.
Also true.
Right?
Like when you start to weigh outthe risk versus the reward of
that.
Kevin (13:09):
Well, see, that gets to one of my mantras for the race,
which was, um, okay, how did Ikeep trying to phrase it?
I kept changing it in my head,but it was like, uh, internal
organs on the inside was what Ikept, kept going through my head
because I'm like, I feel so muchbetter in this race than the
last one.
I wonder what the majordifference is.
Uh, yes.
Internal organs on the inside.
Angie (13:29):
That would be it.
That would definitely make adifference.
And, you know, thank goodnessfor hernia surgery.
There you go.
Okay.
So, um, the plan was to leavearound 1 30, which obviously did
not happen considering Ifinished my call at one o'clock
and Kevin didn't have his fuelsource.
And so originally what I, whenwe were realizing earlier that
(13:49):
week, cause he had ordered thisfuel source from a website that
said it was going to be two tofour days shipping.
And I said, I don't know if, Ithink that's.
I think we're, we're playing ittoo close here and he's like,
no, no, no, it's going to befine.
It says two to four days, two tofour business days.
And I said, he ordered this likeSaturday or Sunday, the weekend
before he's like, no, no, itshould be here by like Thursday.
And I'm like, okay, I stillthink you should just order it
(14:11):
on Amazon.
He's like, Amazon, Amazondoesn't sell it, but you ordered
like several things on thatwebsite.
Yes.
Um, most of which you couldorder on Amazon, and there's
this one thing you couldn't get.
But, so anyway, long storyshort, the shipment never
arrived, not that surprising.
And so then we were looking onthe website to try to find,
(14:33):
because they do sell this instores, and there was a store.
Like there was a couple storesin Miami, but we didn't really
want to drive that.
But there was a store inLakeland, which is where the
race was.
And I'm like, okay, great.
Then we should call them andmake sure that they have it in
stock.
We can go and pick it up there.
No problem.
But it was by the time that wasThursday night, they were
already closed.
So we had to wait to call themon Friday, which is what you
(14:55):
did, right?
Kevin (14:56):
Yeah, but I mean, calling him on Friday or Thursday or
really any point would not havemattered because they did not
have it.
Neither did the stores in Miami.
Angie (15:03):
They didn't have it.
Kevin (15:03):
Um, they did not have it.
Nobody had it.
Yeah.
Angie (15:05):
So Kevin was freaking out, um, on Friday.
Kevin (15:07):
I was super calm and definitely not just, like,
shaking.
Angie (15:11):
Mm hmm.
Very, very agitated.
Not, like, just very, like,Like, anxious, right?
Like, like a ton of anxiety ontop of you.
Anxious is
Kevin (15:18):
the best word.
Like, I was, I, literally, Icouldn't hold my hands still.
Like, you weren't mad, but
Angie (15:21):
you were very anxious.
Kevin (15:23):
I was trying my best to not be mad.
Angie (15:25):
At yourself or at me or what?
Kevin (15:27):
Yep.
Every direction.
Yeah.
I was just trying to not shootmadness out into the world and
so it was then just coming outas anxiety.
Angie (15:34):
agitation, right?
Like you were very likefrustrated, agitated, anxious.
And so I said, okay, look, youjust go to our local running
store and get whatever fuel youneed, like get the gels, get
whatever.
And he kind of was pushing backand I said, just go, I'll have
everything packed up and we'llbe ready to go as soon as you
get back.
And that trip took a little bitlonger than expected because
(15:55):
that shop is a little, it's notclose to our house and there's
just not really a good way toget there.
Kevin (16:00):
There is no No direct way.
As the crow flies, I should beable to get there in 10 minutes
and 10 minutes back.
But as the cars drive, it takesalmost an hour and I got caught
behind a train.
Angie (16:12):
Yeah, and
Kevin (16:13):
everybody on the road were literally driving past
speed limit signs.
The speed limit said 45 andevery car on the road thought,
yep, 25 is the appropriatechoice.
I was screaming as I'm drivingalong.
I mean, this probably isn't thesafest thing, but I was venting
a lot of my anger andfrustration In a car to people
that couldn't hear me.
(16:33):
So by the time I got back, Iwasn't like screaming at our
children, which, which is good,I think was a, a healthier way
to go.
That was a, that was
Angie (16:40):
a win.
So essentially when Kevin gotback, everything was ready.
The girls were like, literallyin the car.
We were waiting for you tobasically just get in the car
and let's go.
Kevin (16:49):
Right.
Which was perfect because thenall he had to do was just dump
the thing into the back of thecar and sit down and, and then
you started driving.
Mm-hmm Which was good'cause Iwas, I was on the verge of
hitting people at that point.
Angie (16:58):
Yeah.
Yeah, so we got on the road atthat, like, around 2.
45, 2, it was almost 3 o'clock.
It was
Kevin (17:05):
almost 3 o'clock.
Angie (17:06):
Yeah, it was like 50, and it's about a four hour drive.
Now keep in mind, we, so there'sclearly no way we're making the
5 o'clock meeting, but wewanted, we really needed, quote
unquote, needed to be there by 7o'clock to pick up Kevin's bib
and race packet.
That was really the goal.
Kevin (17:23):
Right.
Because in order to get into thepark the next morning, we needed
a parking pass.
And when you pick up the bib, itcomes with the parking pass.
So then you don't have to stopthe next morning.
You just smoothly drive into thepark and you go to your parking
location and you're good to go.
And you know, in the, all thematerials you get beforehand, it
says there may be a long line onthe morning of.
(17:45):
And so that's just like a biggray area.
And when you're heading to arace, the fewer.
Question marks you can have thebetter it is so we're really
trying to hit the the seveno'clock and you put it into the
GPS which popped up on the bigscreen in the car and it said
arrival time of like 708 and I'mlike, that's not good
Angie (18:05):
and that's without bathroom stops, right?
Yeah
Kevin (18:08):
You're like, I don't know, we'll make up some time.
I'm like, yeah.
I
Angie (18:10):
go, oh, I can get that.
Then that's not a problem.
I can make that.
Kevin (18:13):
Not with the amount of times we need to stop for a
bathroom.
Angie (18:16):
Challenge accepted.
That's how I drive.
Kevin (18:18):
Yeah, if it was just you in the car, you would have made
it there at 6, and it would havebeen fine.
But that's not what washappening.
Angie (18:24):
Well, and it's not a good idea either, because Then you
started not drinking waterbecause like you wanted to
restrict liquid so that wedidn't have to stop for the
bathroom.
And it was just not a good idea.
You were super anxious.
You were like not drinking, noteating because you wanted to
just hold everything in until wegot there including possibly
your breath.
Kevin (18:43):
And certainly all of my emotions.
I was trying to just holdeverything in and shove it down.
Angie (18:47):
Not a good idea.
Kevin (18:48):
As soon as we hit the first bathroom break maybe?
Angie (18:51):
Yeah.
Was that when I did it?
I think it was the firstbathroom break that, yeah, one
of our daughters kind of pipedup from the back seat and said
that she needed a bathroom.
And once we kind of decidedthat, that was when you kind of
said, okay, we need to let thisgo.
Kevin (19:05):
Yeah, because we came back from the bathroom break and
If we were efficient to like, wewere not screwing around in and
out, back in the car, hit theGPS.
And it was like arrival time,seven 20, because we'd also hit
seven 15.
We'd also hit some constructionalong the way.
There was so much traffic.
So you couldn't, you can't likemove because it's two lanes,
there's construction off to theside.
(19:26):
So nothing's, you're not evendriving the speed limit again,
the theme of, of driving forthose first.
few hours there of my going tothe store and getting on the
turnpike was just don't drivethe speed limit.
Speed limit minus 20.
That's what we had going on.
Um, so it was It was fine whenwe got back in the car and it
was clear that we were we werelosing time to the GPS I was
(19:50):
like, all right, we're justwe're gonna go we're gonna get
the packet tomorrow morning andthat's going to work
Angie (19:57):
Yeah And as soon as he made that decision and like was
he said to me and communicatedit to me and there was just this
sense of calm around it I I justsaid, okay, like, are you sure?
And he said, yes.
And he said it very calmly.
And I said, okay, I already feellike you feel better.
And you're like, I do like, wejust need to release it.
It's going to be fine.
(20:18):
And so once he came to that, itwas just like, okay.
And then we looked up at thesign on the turnpike, you know,
how they have those signs thatare crossing over the turnpike
that tell you about silveralerts and different
notifications that you need.
And do you remember what thesign said?
Kevin (20:33):
Uh, Don't worry, don't hurry.
No,
Angie (20:38):
don't hurry.
Be happy.
Kevin (20:41):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
That was it.
Angie (20:43):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
Like as soon as we made thatchoice,
Kevin (20:47):
literally, I said, we're, we're just going to relax and
we'll get the thing tomorrow.
It was maybe 30 seconds maximum.
And then this sign showed up
Angie (20:56):
wild.
And I said, I looked at him andwe both were just like, Oh my
gosh.
And I said, that's a sign fromyour angels that, that from God,
that we just made the rightdecision.
Kevin (21:05):
And if we miss that one, the same sign showed up again,
like five minutes down the road.
Right.
It was just like, in case youmissed it.
In case
Angie (21:10):
you missed it.
Yes.
Kevin (21:12):
Here you go.
Angie (21:12):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
And then he like pulled out hiswater bottle and started
chugging water, which was great.
Which was so much
Kevin (21:19):
better.
And then we had a couple of morerest stops along the way because
I was hydrated, which was adrastic improvement over, you
know, the alternative.
Yeah.
Angie (21:28):
Because if you weren't drinking water for four hours on
the way, that would have justbeen a disaster the next day.
Yeah.
Kevin (21:34):
No, that would have been awful.
Angie (21:35):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, the trip took, um, a littlebit longer than expected.
We hit terrible traffic alongthe way, but we made it there,
and we decided, okay, we aregoing to go to dinner before the
hotel.
Um, because, you know, okay, nowwe can get dinner at a better
time, and this and that, whichagain, Didn't end up working out
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dinner took a little bit longerdinner was late We got to the
hotel kind of late at like Idon't think we checked in to
like nine o'clock
Kevin (22:03):
It was fine.
Everything just was taking alittle bit longer than ideal And
that was the thing is once I hadreleased it.
It was like well This is what'shappening and everything then
that was taking a little bitlonger Wasn't as annoying like
people were hungry That was kindof annoying is people literally
were just hungry.
We, when we sat down, it waslike, all right, we need some
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food now, but I wasn't annoyedat it as much as I was just
like, I could really usesomething to eat rather than I
could use something to eat and Iwant to strangle somebody.
Like, I think the first optionis so much nicer.
Angie (22:35):
so much nicer.
So this time we went to OutbackSteakhouse, um, because Kevin
felt like he wanted a burger.
We were kind of talking aboutwhat he wanted to eat, um, the
night before the race.
And last time we went toCarrabba's and he had a big bowl
of pasta, he had Italian.
This time we've been kind oftalking about getting more
protein into him, um, for hismuscles and those kinds of
things.
And so we, uh, so you want totalk about what you ate before?
Kevin (22:59):
So I had a half pound burger and a giant baked potato
covered in salt.
I mean, It's not necessarilywhat you might consider carb
loading, but at a hundred milesIt's debatable how helpful carb
loading is because you're outthere for so long that even if
you've maximized your your likeglycogen storage You're you burn
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through that still gonna
Angie (23:20):
run out
Kevin (23:20):
you're running out and you've got hours To go like many
many hours and so the idea ofjust make sure you get as much
Fuel into you as you can, notjust like in the day leading up
in the days leading up, makesure you have a big pasta
dinner, but it's like theconstant making sure that you
are fully fueling your body.
(23:40):
And then, yeah, if you want tohave like a nice big meal the
night before, like that was alot of food I put in and.
I felt fine.
I mean, I felt really good atthe start of the race, so that
was good.
Angie (23:51):
Yeah, I think it was a good choice for you.
Um, so we got back to the hotel.
Oh, I realized, Oh, actuallyafter dinner, we went to the
grocery store to pick up some,um, last minute things that we
needed for, for breakfast andsome other things.
Um, the girls, we'd eatenthrough the grapes, um, in the
car, I think, um, like on theway there.
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So we needed to get more grapes.
Oh no, I think we.
Throughout the week.
Through school lunches, wefinished off grapes.
Yeah.
So we needed to pick up, causegrapes were on the fueling plan.
And thank goodness, becausespoiler alert again, grapes were
Kevin's pretty much favoritefuel source this race, right?
Kevin (24:26):
Certainly for the second half of the race.
Like the last two laps, Ibasically.
In terms of like normal food, Ifueled on grapes and that was
good.
Angie (24:34):
And those were, those were great.
Cause I was like looking up thenutrition info is like how much
cow, how many calories, how manycarbs?
I'm like, okay, these areactually a really good source of
both calories and carbs for him.
Kevin (24:44):
Right.
And if I tried to do somethingsimilar in terms of like.
Raisins, that's just upping yourfiber content much and there's
no water in there.
So just flipping it over tograpes I don't know if that'd be
great at shorter distances, butin something where I'm out there
for this many hours grapes werefantastic
Angie (25:00):
Yeah, they were a very good choice.
I mean, I think it's gonna beharder In races of shorter
distances, you don't see likeyour crew as much either.
So it's to, to carry, you know,like grapes are just bigger than
raisins.
Yeah.
Kevin (25:11):
I think you and one of our daughters kept asking if I
wanted to take potato chips withme out on the thing.
And I'm like, I'm not, I don'thave my backpack, so I don't
have a place to put potatochips.
Like where am I, what am I doingwith that?
Angie (25:23):
Yeah.
So, um, we ended up going to bedlater than.
We wanted to, which wasprobably, what, ten, a little
after ten we ended up going tobed?
Kevin (25:32):
That sounds about right.
Angie (25:33):
So I ended up getting like some, oh, I also forgot the
boiled potatoes because boiledsalted potatoes were going to be
on our list of things for him toconsume throughout the race.
So I got like a baked potato anda sweet potato at the grocery
store, and I just microwavedthem at the hotel.
to cook them so that we couldhave those options as well.
Kevin (25:54):
I have no idea what mile mark I was at that you came to
me with a peeled, boiled sweetpotato in a ziplock bag and you
were like, here, take a bite ofthis and see if it seems like
something you want to bring withyou.
And I took a bite and I'm like,what is this?
This is the worst food evercreated in the history of
mankind.
And you look at me so calmly andyou're like Does it just need a
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little extra salt?
I'm like, no, no, it needs to beanything besides what I am
currently eating is what itneeds to be.
Because
Angie (26:22):
I was going to give it to you to take with you, but I
said, just, I said, just take abite first to see if the answer
is like, absolutely not.
I'm not going to consume that.
And that was very clearly whatthe answer ended up being.
Kevin (26:33):
I am surprised that I chewed and swallowed it because
as soon as the, you
Angie (26:37):
walked away, I thought you were going to go spit it
out.
Kevin (26:39):
I did not.
I did.
I took a first step to go spitit out and then I continued
chewing and I'm like, I mean.
They made the worst food evercreated, but I'm definitely not
eating this whole thing.
That's not, that's not going tohappen.
Angie (26:49):
You were just like, he was just shaking his head.
He was chewing it with thisdisgusted look on his face and
just shaking his head.
No.
Yeah.
That could have been like aroundthe 50 mile mark when you were
already annoyed.
I think that was also coincidedwith your like angry, annoyed
time.
I
Kevin (27:07):
feel like that was 50.
Angie (27:08):
Yeah.
So, um, okay.
So bed that night.
How'd you sleep?
Kevin (27:12):
Um, I slept fine.
I had to get up and go to thebathroom because I was like
ridiculously hydrated, but Ionly had to get up once.
And I feel like before the lasttime I was getting up
constantly, like between thecombination of nerves and
hydration, I was getting up likecrazy.
This time, I think theridiculously salted baked potato
was helping me retain waterrather than let it just pass
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through.
Angie (27:33):
Yeah, so that was really good.
I actually slept really well,which was surprising, um,
because the bed was not supercomfortable, but thank goodness
I brought my own pillow.
That is a must for me for sure.
So, race time was 7 a.
m.
Wake up time, 5 a.
m.
So that he could start fueling,um, because the goal was to
leave the hotel at 5 30.
Because we wanted to be there nolater than six o'clock because
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now we had to pick up theparking pass.
We had to pick up his racepacket.
So there was more things thatjust got added to race morning.
So we wanted to make sure thatwe were there with plenty of
time to do all that.
Kevin (28:06):
But race morning itself went really smooth.
I thought.
Angie (28:10):
Yeah, until I found, realized that I didn't have the
cap to your water bottle.
Kevin (28:14):
Up until that, like, from the hotel, getting into the car,
leaving, getting to our parkingspot.
Angie (28:20):
I mean, the goal was 530, we left the parking lot at 535,
so that was pretty good.
Kevin (28:25):
I must have not even been looking at my watch, because in
my head we were nailing it, wewere fine.
Angie (28:30):
Which, I mean, we left the room around like 532 maybe,
you know, so by the time we werein the car and pulling out, it
was like 535.
Kevin (28:37):
There was also another person that I saw who was
heading to the race and he wasleaving at the same time.
So whether he had his bibalready or not, I'm like, ah,
this is another person headingto the same place we are.
So this, I feel like we're ontime.
So that was.
That was good.
Yeah,
Angie (28:51):
so we got there, like got to the place, got the parking
pass without a problem.
Kevin walked out to get, um, toget his bib while I started to
kind of unpack the car andrealize that we had his handheld
water bottle.
Now those of you that have beenfollowing us for a little while,
you remember, Probably that inDaytona at his last hundred
mile.
We forgot his handheld waterbottle like it just somehow
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didn't get packed And so we wererunning around the night before
to Dick's sporting goods and tovarious places trying to find
him a handheld water bottle andWe ended up buying like the last
handheld at Dick's and it wasterrible Blah, blah, blah.
So, this time, this handheldwater bottle has like become my
nemesis.
So, I pull everything out.
The handheld is there, but Ican't find the cap.
(29:36):
And so Luckily, there was a verynice man that was directing
traffic.
He wasn't ended up being likethe head of the race station.
And he came over and he's like,what do you guys need?
He's like, I think I have anextra one.
I think I might be able to fit.
So he kind of gave you anotheroption to kind of help to ease
your mind that morning, whichwas nice.
Kevin (29:54):
Right.
Because for the first lap, itwas, I mean, at that point it's,
it's race morning.
There's.
I'm past anxiety because I havecompletely accepted that anxiety
is not helping.
The night, the day before,there's, there's a lot of nerves
and agitation and it feels likeit's useful to have.
It's not.
It's clearly just a waste of allmy energy.
(30:15):
But on race morning Everything'sgoing smoothly.
We're leaving on time.
We're arriving on time.
We're finding a great parkingspot.
Everything is going smoothlyIt's just it's laying out
exactly how it's supposed to goEven if it's not that I'm just
flipping everything in my headto be like actually We got
behind that car because nowwe're gonna get a better parking
spot and we had a great parkingspot and it was We actually had
(30:36):
a perfect parking spot becausethen when you couldn't find the
cap and you were talking aboutit, the guy who was directing
traffic heard us.
If we were further into theparking lot, he never would have
heard us.
That's
Angie (30:47):
true.
And I, I wouldn't have thoughtto ask him, you know, like, so
that was fantastic.
It was, you know, again, I thinkit was our angels guiding us of
like, this is exactly what'ssupposed to be happening right
now.
Kevin (30:59):
Yeah.
You never would've thought toask him.
I'm surprised that it didn'toccur to you to just start
asking at other cars if anybodyhad a spare cap, because in all
likelihood someone probably didand would share.
Like, as I'm running my firstthing, I started chatting with
the person that I was runningwith and he goes, wait, what
brand is it?
Cause I know I have like.
Two extra caps in my gear and
Angie (31:19):
we're going to invest in some more equipment.
Like, well, it's not only sparecaps, but I think another
handheld as well.
That's just going to like livein my car from now.
So.
Um, anyway, so Kevin, we, webasically got him to the
starting line.
Anything else you want to say,like, before the starting line
of, like, how you were feeling?
Like, how were you feelingbefore the race started, I
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guess?
Kevin (31:43):
I was pretty neutral, honestly.
Like, you were trying to do,like, a pre race interview to
put up on social media and,like, get my thoughts and
everything, and I was doing mybest to stay neutral.
Neutral to not be overly excitedto not be down It's kind of
funny like you go to thestarting line of a 5k and they
get a DJ there They got like thebass going and stuff the start
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of an ultra.
Everybody is getting ready torun for like 20 to 30 hours and
You know, there's some peoplewho are making some like awkward
jokes people who are like, Ihaven't seen you in a year But
there's not like music bumpingand stuff like that.
It's it's a very differentfeeling
Angie (32:24):
Yeah, because you can't sustain that kind of energy for
that amount of time time.
Kevin (32:28):
No, everybody realizes there's no reason to get hyped
right now.
There's
Angie (32:31):
no reason, like, so I think that a neutral mindset is
actually a really good place tobe.
And
Kevin (32:35):
that is what I was doing.
I was trying to stay as neutralas I could at the starting line.
Which means I probably gave aremarkably boring interview
before the race.
Angie (32:43):
It wasn't that great.
So um, Oh, if you guys didn'tfollow along live, you can still
catch all of that.
All of these, I actually made a,a highlight on our Instagram
profile.
So if you go to our profile atreal life runners, and that is
two L's real life runners, um,there is a highlight on the, um,
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profile that is the long haul100.
So you can kind of see all ofthe.
Stories along the way.
Kevin (33:10):
It's a fun one because I'm blonde in the picture that
you have for the like littlethumbnail for that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Cause
Angie (33:15):
that was from Daytona when you were blonde.
Um, so, okay.
So the race started, so Kevintakes off, you know, the, the
race starts.
And so the girls and I walk backto the car at that point.
I'm like, well, I'm like.
So, I, I'm looking, okay, I'llgive you a little, my
perspective.
Yeah, you gotta
Kevin (33:29):
do the crew perspective.
So,
Angie (33:30):
I'm looking around at these people and they've got,
like, all sorts of things setup.
They've got, like, a table setup and they've got all these
chairs and they've got, like,bins of stuff.
And I'm looking at what I've gotand I'm like, well, we don't
have any.
I mean, we had a couple chairs,but I didn't have, like, a table
or bins or any of this stuff andI'm like feeling woefully
unprepared and Kind of askingand questioning like what did I
(33:54):
get myself into like I literallyhave to leave right now to go
get coffee Like I didn't evenhave coffee for myself.
And so So that is definitelysomething I need to pre plan
next time because we did havethe perfect parking spot right
when we pulled in and I had toleave and so I ended up losing
that parking spot, which wasfine, like we were just maybe 50
feet away from where Ioriginally was.
Kevin (34:16):
But as we've already covered, it was 101 miles and
then that made it like 101 and ahalf.
Angie (34:22):
I did add, it did add a little bit more to your race,
like where the second part was.
So the girls and I decided itwas going to be at least two
hours, probably, you know, twoand a half, two to two and a
half hours, um, until we saw youagain.
So we went to go get Starbucksin the town that was nearby,
which was basically a 45 tominute to an hour trip there and
back.
I'm also like, well, what elseare we going to do?
(34:44):
You know, we're just going tosit around.
So we went to Starbucks and.
The service which was muchbetter in town because I also
realized that the service at thepark was terrible.
It's in the middle of a FloridaState Park.
That's to be expected.
So we went and got Starbucks.
We came back, found our newparking spot.
And so then when I started tounload the car, I started to
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feel a lot better.
Like I had all of our bags, allof our supplies, and I put out a
yoga mat to kind of layeverything out on.
Um, so it wasn't a table thatwas elevated like the other
fancy campers there, but it wasfine.
And I got, kind of got.
As I was unloading, the cap forthe handheld water bottle
magically appeared.
Like literally out of nowhere.
I don't even know where it camefrom.
(35:26):
It's not like I like reachedinto a bag and find it.
It was literally as I waspulling bags out of the car, the
cap flew out at me.
Like it jumped out and I waslike, Oh my God, it's the cap.
Like it was, it was magic.
appeared.
Kevin (35:40):
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
Which you then called to let meknow.
Angie (35:43):
Yeah.
It was so good.
Um, so yes.
So, because Kevin does carry hisphone with him.
So, I was able to like call him.
So, even though we only saw himsix times throughout the race,
um, we, I did call multipletimes.
We never did walk to that otherpoint where I was supposed to,
where See you I kind of forgotabout that.
Kevin (36:01):
Yeah.
No, there was a spot that youcould have walked Well, okay,
you would have had to walk amile there and a mile back to
the car Yeah, so it's like asixteen point seven ish loop.
And if you would walk that thingyou could have seen me it was
about a mile from your car andFrom that point because there
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were there Like it's this weirdspot.
I honestly I could not draw amap of what the course is that I
ran Yeah, but you pass theseouthouses going two different
directions and you pass themonce and then you pass them
again about Four ish mileslater.
And so you could have seen methere and then walked a mile
back to the car Well, I did thisfour mile loop and then ran a
(36:43):
mile back to the car.
So you probably could have seenme at that point
Angie (36:46):
Yeah, but then we going back to how woefully unprepared
we were and how Well, clearly weare not campers, um, the girls
both were wearing Uggs and so Iwanted to like go take walks in
nature during the hours that weweren't hanging out with you and
one of them had Ugg boots andone of them had Ugg slippers on,
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um, so she was like, well Idon't want to go walking, I
don't have the right shoes forthat, I'm like, why didn't you
bring sneakers?
Like, what in the world ishappening right now?
last
Kevin (37:17):
two times I've run a ridiculously long distance, you
guys basically lived in a carand grocery stores
Angie (37:24):
and that's it.
You know, like we really didn'tknow what we were getting
ourselves in for.
I'm like, okay, now we know likeif he does one of these trail
ultras again, it's essentiallylike camping.
Like that's what we have toprepare for.
Like we are going somewhere andcamping and can't leave and need
to have all of the supplies withus.
Kevin (37:39):
Yeah.
It's, it's funny.
Cause I, you know, there wereseveral Stations throughout and
like places where people couldhave parked And so when I got to
you guys, obviously you guyswere all up and going and ready
for me But I went past someother places Car after car of
people in their like, they'vegot a chair and then they've got
like a, a footstool in front ofthem and they're just napping
(38:00):
for, you know, the next fourhours until their runner comes
back because depending on howfast your runner is, you might
see them once every four to fivehours and so they're like, yep,
it's, it's my, uh, 11 o'clocknap time and they were like,
people were just out cold.
Who's funny.
Angie (38:16):
I know.
I know.
So yeah, we, um.
aren't really campers ingeneral.
I shouldn't say by nature, butby choice.
Um, we, like, don't really,haven't really gone camping
ever.
Kevin (38:27):
Where would we camp?
We live in South Florida.
Angie (38:30):
Right up in that area.
There's tons of campsites.
Like, if we go up there.
Yes, we'd have to drive up toCentral Florida.
That's what we'd have to do.
Yeah, there's tons of camping upthere.
There's a
Kevin (38:36):
big Boy Scout camp across the street.
Angie (38:37):
Yeah.
So, anywho, um, All right,that's where, so where were we?
So Starbucks, we got back,unloaded the car.
I started to feel much betterabout my life and my choices as
crew chief.
Still questioning why my husbandis trying to run 100 miles, but
you know, it's all good.
So I kept coming back to you.
So at
Kevin (38:55):
least I wasn't running away.
I kept coming back.
to you
Angie (38:58):
coming back.
Um, so after loop one, I mean,you felt good.
I did a little interview there.
Um, he was feeling good on loopone.
He was very happy that he couldtake off his backpack.
So he had, you, you did loop onewith the hydration vest because
you didn't have your hand.
It was the only way
Kevin (39:15):
to carry enough liquid,
Angie (39:15):
right?
And so you were kind ofannoying.
You're like, okay, this is justwhat we're going to have.
You know, it's just, it's fine.
It's good.
It's what we're, it's going tohappen.
So he took off his hydrationvest and was very happy to go
into the handheld.
Um, So we got the handheldrefilled, everything loaded up,
and then Kevin took off on Loop2.
Kevin (39:31):
Right, my issue with the vest is not the weight.
I've practiced plenty with theweight.
I couldn't, and that's why Iflipped my mind.
I'm like, alright, if I justhave to have the vest the entire
time, then that's what I'm goingto have to do.
I have practiced so many timeswith it.
I don't drink as much with thebackpack as I do with a handheld
because I can't tell how muchliquid is still in there.
(39:53):
I'm like, I feel like I've, I'vedrank at least a full handheld
and I haven't, you know, causeby the time I got back and took
it off after doing like 16 plusmiles.
There was way too much liquid inthere based off of like when I
cleaned it out later There wasway too much liquid to still be
in there
Angie (40:08):
Well to be fair when you did clean it out We had added
ice to it in case you wanted tolike come back and switch the
handheld and take the vest backOkay, so we did add ice to it,
but you had drank like When wefilled it up, it was at about 1,
100 ish milliliters, and youdrank it down to about 750.
So you had only drank about 350milliliters during
Kevin (40:30):
that time.
Right, whereas over that entireloop, I should have drank the
entire thing.
Angie (40:32):
Right.
So, so, I mean, that's, andthat's good to know, right?
Like it's good to know that youDrink less because in when you
do use the vest, you know infuture races You you have to
like force yourself to remindyourself that you're not
drinking enough,
Kevin (40:46):
right?
I mean on the first loop though.
I was chatting with this guylike for the first nine miles
because you hit aid station oneat about Four ish and then you
loop and you hit aid station oneagain at about nine ish And I
was with this guy and so we'rechatting and he seems to never
be taking in fuel I kept suckingoff my thing like everybody's
got you know, their drink spoutswherever they are on their
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backpacks But no one else seemedto be eating anything.
I'm like We all need to beeating fuel.
What is going on?
And I'm not great.
Even with like gels and goos andstuff, I prefer to take a little
walking break and just get thatdown and make sure I get it down
with enough fluid.
And so, at one point, I stoppedto go to the bathroom in the
middle of the woods and tooksome fuel and then I went and
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caught back up with them.
But I'm like, are they notfueling at all?
This seems like a reallydangerous plan for them, but I
think their plan was basicallywhen they got to aid stations,
they were fueling at those spotsor I don't, I don't know.
I have no idea.
Angie (41:42):
Well, I mean, and that's kind of what you did when you
got to us that one time isyou're like, I'm just going to
eat everything here.
Like I don't really want to takeany food with me because food
sounds terrible right now.
So I'm going to take a coupleextra minutes.
I'm going to eat things here sothat I can make sure to get in
more calories and then I'm justgoing to take the grapes and
the.
The liquid with me.
Kevin (41:59):
Yeah.
Because I took in an entirebanana and I forget what else I
took in at that stop.
But like going out and runningwith a banana on the run,
besides the fact that it wouldcrack me up because that's the
main fuel source of one of theguys that I coach is he runs his
long runs while carrying abanana so he can eat it halfway
through.
Really?
Yeah.
Way to go, Peter.
(42:19):
Um, and who was, who wasfollowing us despite living in
the UK and I have no idea whattime he was checking in on us.
Um, but.
Outside of that, carrying andeating a banana throughout the
thing seemed like a poor idea.
And they had bananas at the aidstations, but they were all
green.
And I'm like, that is way toomuch fiber.
Where is your, like, spottedbanana that's just basically
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sugar?
It seemed, I don't know.
So, yeah.
Spotted
Angie (42:42):
bananas are gross, though.
Kevin (42:44):
I know, but they're all sugary.
So, if you can, if you can getit down, it's better.
Sugar content wise,
Angie (42:48):
for sure.
Spotted, browner bananas aredefinitely better for you.
Right.
Um, okay, so Loop 2, do youremember any details on Loop 2?
Kevin (42:56):
I ran the entire thing solo.
Angie (42:59):
Okay.
Kevin (43:00):
Like, I was just by myself the entire time.
Mm hmm.
And towards the very end of it,and this was weird off of Yeah,
no, no.
Loop 1 I was with people untilmile nine and a half, and then I
ran the back half solo, foundyou guys, headed off on loop
two.
Because you
Angie (43:16):
had to tell the aid station guy that we found the
water bottle.
Kevin (43:19):
Well, on loop one I stopped for four minutes.
Oh, so that
Angie (43:22):
he could find it.
Right, because he
Kevin (43:24):
wasn't there.
He said, I'll be at aid stationone.
So I get to aid station one,there's a nice man there dressed
as a dinosaur.
I asked him, where was Cory?
This is complete normal thingsat aid stations, so I asked the
guy dressed as the dinosaur, whoseemed like he was in charge.
Angie (43:37):
Well, meanwhile, okay, I have to interrupt you because
Kevin was telling us on the wayhome yesterday that, like, at
one aid station there was a ladydressed as a Care Bear that was
also with sparkles, and therewas a unicorn, and there's, and
the girls are in the backlistening to him, and like, Dad,
are you sure you weren't justhallucinating?
No,
Kevin (43:53):
100%.
That was the unicorn aidstation, and There was a guy
dressed as a dinosaur, and onceit hit nightfall, then the woman
who had, like, spots of glitterall over her cheeks and stuff,
she was dressed as the pink CareBear.
I don't know how that fit intothe Unicorn Aid Station, but
that's, that's who greeted youas you got to the aid station.
Someone coming in should belike, Woo! Runner! And just so
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excited, whoever it was, thatwas the, that was the
excitement.
So, I get to the aid station andI'm like, is Corey here?
And they kind of look at melike, how do you even know his
name specifically?
Because he was in charge of thataid station and they're like,
um, he's supposed to be here,but Amy just took him that
direction and she's one of thetwo race directors and I'm like,
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Alright, so now I've got toexplain to these guys.
I'm like, I have a handheldwater bottle, but it doesn't
have a cap.
And Cory said that he might havea cap that goes on it.
And they're like, well, he'ssomewhere that direction.
I'm like, somewhere thatdirection?
And then they pointed to, like,the woods.
I'm like, okay, can you give mea little bit more guidance?
And so Then thankfully he likepopped out from around the side
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of a van and they're like therehe is in the hat so I go over
that direction to find Cory andHe sees me and gets this look of
shock on his face.
Like oh, I did not realize hewas gonna be here already Yeah,
like oh wait,
Angie (45:12):
he's fast
Kevin (45:13):
Okay, and so he goes over and I'm thinking maybe he's
gonna move with urgency none Hejust calmly walks over to his
tent and goes into his tent andstarts opening up bins and stuff
and comes back out Awesome, butI am now like, all right, I was
with this group of people andnow I'm not with this group of
people.
So if you could find mesomething quickly, I could go
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back out and try and get tothem.
So I was at that aid station forlike four to five minutes and he
comes out and he goes, allright, I've got two water
bottles.
I think the cap on this onemight fit yours.
Nope, that doesn't fit.
All right.
What I can do.
is give you this water bottleand you can just have this water
bottle so it was fantastic hewas just gonna give me a water
bottle for the rest of the raceyeah which was awesome
Angie (45:54):
so awesome and so generous and so but anyway we
were talking about back to looptwo you were by yourself
Kevin (46:00):
i was completely by myself until Way late in it and
now runners are coming at me onthe same trail.
Okay, and remember the traildoesn't really like it's kind of
like a figure eight of whatyou're doing, but there's a few
stretches that I didn't quitenotice exactly on the map where
you're doing the same path, butgoing in opposite directions.
And so I'm running alongcompletely by myself.
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I can't see anybody in front ofme or behind me.
And now runners are comingstraight at me.
And I am not convinced that I'mnot lost because.
I'm in the middle of the woods.
Yeah.
And everybody that I see isgoing the other direction than I
am.
And I'm like, did you guys seeanybody else going the direction
I'm going?
And they're like, no, we haven'tseen anybody.
I'm like.
All right, well, I keep, I stillsee flags, so I'm just going to
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keep following the flag.
So that was a little nerveinducing on lap two, but
physically I still felt fine.
I was still putting fuel downand still moving along.
Angie (46:52):
Yeah.
And so you got back to us atlike, after the second loop and
you were at about 33 miles andyou're like, I'm tired.
And I was like, well, yeah, thatmakes sense.
Like, you're like my legs,they're just.
I'm just tired.
I'm like, stomach?
He's like, good.
Head?
Good.
Like, we do like kind of a bodycheck and he's just like, I'm
just tired.
I'm like, okay.
Well, that makes sense.
You've run over 50k.
Like you're, you should feeltired.
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That's a normal thing right now.
So time to keep moving.
Like let's refuel you and keepgoing.
Kevin (47:19):
Yeah.
I mean, I think every time youhit something that seems like a
recognizable distance, yourbrain is, it starts counting.
Yeah.
And the challenge of an ultra isto.
Recognize where you currentlyare and not start counting too
far ahead of I finished lap two,but I have to do six laps I
finished 50k, but this is ahundred miles Like you can't get
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too caught up in any of the thespecific numbers where you
currently are
Angie (47:44):
Yeah, I think it's much more helpful to Look back at
what you've already accomplishedversus looking ahead at what you
have left to go It seems likethat would be a way more helpful
tactic.
So We are going to take a pauseright here in the story since we
are kind of coming up on ournormal Podcast time here and
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we're gonna say that this is theend of part one.
So thanks for joining us forpart one Full transparency.
We weren't really sure how longthis episode would be and so We
kind of got to this point andhad other things to do in real
life, like make dinner and beparents and watch, watch the
national championship.
And the rest of the week is justsuper busy.
(48:26):
So we wouldn't have time to getthis out.
In time for our regular Thursdayrelease, so part one is now
completed.
Please stay tuned next week forpart two where we kind of go
through the second half.
We haven't even made it to thehalfway mark yet, because you
will enjoy some of the funstories about kind of how Kevin
is at different points in therace because this is his third
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race now and so I've noticed Uh,trend in kind of his mood and
what happens to him mentallythroughout the races.
So I will be sharing that nextweek as well.
And you'll get to hear all aboutthe middle of the race as, as
we're nearing the end of therace, what, you know, loops
three, four, five, and six werelike for him.
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And then of course, the finishline of how he felt when
crossing the finish line of histhird 100 mile race attempt,
second completion.
So anywho, thanks for joiningus.
If this episode was helpful oryou enjoyed it, please leave us
a review on iTunes or Applepodcasts and share it on social
media so that more people canfind it.
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And as always, this has been theReal Life Runners podcast,
episode number 394.
Now get out there and run yourlife.
On January 18th, just a few days ago, Kevin completed
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the Long Haul 100.
Well, I guess that's a spoileralert.
I should have said you startedit, right?
But spoiler alert, he completedit too.
And if you follow us on, followus on social media, you'll
already know that.
So Kevin started and completed,technically, I guess you
completed on the January 19th.
Technically,
Kevin (00:20):
I finished on the 19th.
Angie (00:21):
But anyway, today we're talking all about the Long Haul
100, Kevin's second Completed100 mile race and third attempt
at a hundred miles.
So if you want to hear all thefun details, stay tuned.
(00:57):
What's up runners.
Welcome to the show today.
We're here with the recap, thelong awaited recap of Kevin's
long haul 100.
Kevin (01:05):
Long awaited.
I feel like I just, I just didthe race.
Angie (01:09):
Well, we, I will say like, you know, thank you to
everyone that followed us onsocial media, um, over the
weekend.
It was super fun, you know, allof the messages and all of the
support and all the love thatjust kept pouring in.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We felt it for sure.
Um, I know that the service waspretty spotty and we'll kind of
get into that in today's recap.
Um, but I just wanted to saythank you for everyone that was
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following along and reallycheering Kevin on in this
journey.
Kevin (01:34):
Yeah.
It's always nice.
Like every time I came through,I know you weren't doing a lot
of.
videos because of the servicewas so spotty, but it's, it's
nice to know how, how muchsupport was coming in, you know,
through social media and stufflike that.
Angie (01:45):
Yeah.
So today we're talking about therecap.
So if you missed the lastepisode, head back one episode,
you can catch like Kevin's.
Preparation for the race.
Um, he had surgery in March oflast year.
He had to have a herniarepaired.
So it was really a journey ofcoming back from that surgery
and then preparing to run ahundred miles.
(02:05):
So we went through pretty muchmost or all of his race prep in
that episode.
So if you're curious about allof that, head back to the last
episode.
And today we're talking abouthow it all went.
Because if you did listen to ourlast episode, you know that his
training was not ideal and didnot really go as he had hoped
for.
There were some things on theschedule that he wanted to do
(02:27):
that he didn't end up doingbecause he was battling, uh,
some sickness and some illnessand things like that.
So, this is real life.
We're always going to keep itreal with you guys.
And so, how did that all playout in The race.
And that's really what we wantto talk about today.
Kevin (02:41):
Right.
I mean, that's a whole, thewhole idea.
And obviously once, once werecorded that podcast,
everything else went perfectlysmooth, absolutely no hiccups.
And I felt amazing for theentirety of the race.
Angie (02:54):
Absolutely.
And that is clearly not thecase.
So.
Um, let's, so I want to startwith just kind of my motto of
the weekend.
And this is really, I think thisis kind of came to me, um, the
night before the race, which isjust keep moving forward, just
keep doing the next best thing.
And the actual motto actually,now that I think about it, I
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actually forgot, I just saidactually like five times, um,
was make it work.
That was really the.
Theme I think of your trainingof that day traveling to the
race and then really the raceitself too was make it work and
I think that that's really agood theme for ultras in
general.
(03:36):
I know that we are not superexperienced when it comes to
ultras and we've only done threeof them so far, but there's
always.
There, there are always thingsthat are going to go wrong or
that are not going to go the waythat you want them to or the way
that you plan them to.
And you have to just figure outhow to make it work and keep
going forward.
Kevin (03:55):
Yeah.
Continuous forward progress wasreally like a mantra that I kept
saying to myself in my lasthundred at Daytona was
continuous forward progress.
Just keep moving.
Like, if.
If you're at an aid station, youknow, in the last one, if I got
to your car, every time I got toyour car, that was time that I
was not moving down the road.
And so it was, I needed to stop.
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I needed to stop periodically,but that wasn't progress.
And when I was on the road,whether I was running or
walking, whatever it was, it wasstill progress towards the
finish.
And I think that that works for.
Every ultra I think that worksfor everything actually
Angie (04:31):
everything in life.
Absolutely And which is whyrunning is such a good metaphor
for life in general But I wouldlove to question that right away
of like I wasn't moving forwardlike you I mean technically I
mean physically
Kevin (04:44):
moving forward, but
Angie (04:45):
you have to take those stops in order for you to
continuously move forward Likethe rest stops are absolutely
necessary.
Just like they are in our normaltraining For you to keep making
that forward progress.
And I know that sometimes youget a little agitated and we'll
talk about that too.
Um, today about like how Kevinis at these rest stops and stuff
too.
(05:06):
Um, because I wasn't able tocatch as much at on film and I
don't typically like to film himwhen he's in that.
state because if you're alreadylike annoyed and irritated and
someone has a camera in yourface, that's not usually going
to make the situation better.
Kevin (05:19):
Probably not.
Yeah.
I'm sure it would have been sofunny at that time.
I'm sure it would have.
No, that's
Angie (05:24):
not your funny time.
No, your funny time comes afterthat, like, and so we can talk
about that because now thatKevin has done three of these,
I've also started to see sometrends, which is kind of fun
too.
So.
All right.
So.
As a little short recap, Kevinran 100 miles.
It was a 16.
7 mile loop that he did sixtimes on a trail.
So it was his first trail ultraas well.
(05:46):
Um, so it
Kevin (05:46):
was at least 16.
8, possibly close to 17 miles.
Let's be clear.
Angie (05:51):
Let's be clear.
Yeah, because on his watch, so Imean, you can tell them that
spoiler alert right away.
Kevin (05:56):
Yeah.
I hit a hundred miles and I'mstill like in the middle of the
woods.
Like I couldn't see the finish.
I couldn't see where your carused to be.
Like I, I was very far from thefinish line when my watch
clicked over to a hundred, Ifinished it like 101.
8 or so.
Angie (06:12):
Yeah.
So it's funny, like when peopleget really mad about, you know,
marathons being like 26.
5 versus 26.
2, you can probably understandthe level of.
Annoyance and frustrationpossibly, but like knowing that
you're going to run a hundredmiles and having to do almost
two extra miles that had to havebeen tougher mentally.
Kevin (06:31):
Well, I mean, you know, what's coming to you.
Cause the race director said wewheeled it out, depending on,
you know, how accurate yourwatches and how far you veer off
of the course and, and twistsand turns, cause you're, you're
running through the woods.
So it's constant twists andturns and stuff.
He goes, most of you willprobably be coming in somewhere
around 101 miles when you crossthe finish line.
So like you knew it was coming.
Angie (06:52):
Yeah, yeah.
So it was like, this isbasically a hundred miles, you
know, like you should, Iremember him saying that at the
beginning before the racestarted was you will get over a
hundred miles.
Some of you might get more thanthat.
Kevin (07:04):
Right.
And I mean, honestly.
It's, I would rather be slightlyover than slightly under on
something where, you know, theaccuracy of measuring a trail
course, don't give me 99.
7 on my watch.
I am big on, I'll stop wheneverI get back to my house on a run
that's.
eight ish miles.
If I'm doing 100, I am doing 100miles.
(07:26):
I would have run through thatlittle tent city there, high
five some people, I would nothave run.
I would have walked through tentcity and high five some people,
but I was in triple digits.
Angie (07:36):
Yeah.
So, all right.
So let's go back and talk alittle bit about.
the day and the weekend and kindof what our experience was like.
So Friday, I, yeah, I think we,we start with Friday.
Do you want to start beforeFriday?
No Friday.
Okay.
So Friday, Kevin went to work,the girls went to school and I
had, you know, I work from home.
So obviously I had things to doat, at home as well.
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I, however, overscheduledmyself.
So I will take fullresponsibility as, especially as
crew chief.
that there were things that Iput on my calendar that day that
should not have been on mycalendar.
I put like a call with our newprogram, which I absolutely
loved, but I should have knownbetter when I was scheduling out
these calls.
This should have been part of mythinking ahead of time is, you
know, Ange, don't put this callat noon if you guys are trying
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to leave around one o'clock or 130 considering like, you know,
you're not going to just get offthe call and be ready and then
be able to walk out the door.
Like, I know better than that.
So that was poor planning on mypart and also one of, um, the,
that something that highlightsone of my, uh, weaknesses and my
faults of like thinking that Ican do everything in 15 minutes
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or a much shorter period oftime.
Yeah, yeah, I
Kevin (08:46):
mean, really for it to have timed out perfectly, you
would have had to end your calland step into the car.
Angie (08:50):
Basically, no, not step into the car, but like, we would
have had to have everythingpacked up and essentially ready
to pack up the car and let go.
Kevin (08:57):
In a most ideal world, we would have actually made it
there in time for their,optional but highly suggested
meeting at five o'clock thenight before.
Angie (09:05):
You never even told me about that to be fair until that
day, I think, or possibly thenight before, but I'm pretty
sure it was that day.
Kevin (09:13):
I think I skipped over that part in the race packet
because it's there.
Like, I know it's sitting therein the race packet.
And to be
Angie (09:18):
fair, I didn't read the race packet, so I probably
should have done that.
So that's on me.
Kevin (09:22):
So we both have a little bit of blame, but then there was
also issues.
There's no
Angie (09:26):
blame.
There's just responsibility.
And I think that Well, and Ithink that both of us, you know,
we've talked about this in ourmarriage as well of taking 100
percent responsibility becausethat is one of my faults.
One of my negativecharacteristics is that I am
continuously trying to noticeand get over is like not
assigning blame to other people.
That is not.
Like that's something I used todo all the time, especially as a
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kid.
Like I would always try to findsomeone to blame because I
didn't want to be the one toblame.
And so I would always blameother people.
And I've been working on a lotof like, no, no, this was a
hundred percent myresponsibility.
And there were even times duringthis weekend with our girls and
things like that, that we'lltell you about in a couple of
things coming up where I.
The initial response was blameand then I'm like, no, no,
(10:07):
that's my fault.
Like, I'm going to take that onmyself.
So, not necessarily blame, butjust like owning our own
responsibility.
Kevin (10:13):
But then there was plenty of responsibility on my own of
making sure that I ordered allthe appropriate fuel and that it
was at our house in time to putin the car and then drive.
And I did not.
Order in time.
And so then there were someshipment delays.
And so on the day of, instead ofbeing able to pack the car, I
had to go off to a speciallyrunning store and get some extra
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fuel to make sure that I hadenough calories.
Angie (10:37):
Okay.
So to explain some details onthis, there was a specific kind
of fuel that Kevin wanted to usecalled carbs fuel, right?
Kevin (10:45):
Yes.
Angie (10:46):
And it was, why did you want to use this one?
Kevin (10:49):
So it's a huge amount of calories in one little gel
packet.
So it's like, it's 50 grams ofcarbs per packet.
And it's not as thick as some ofthe other gels, so it's supposed
to go down really smooth.
Angie (11:01):
But you never practiced with this in training.
Kevin (11:03):
That is true.
That is very true.
Angie (11:05):
Right.
And so I think it was maybe ablessing in disguise that this
order didn't come in because Iwas questioning, I'm like, why
are you going to use somethingon race day?
Like, that's literally what wetell people never to do is like,
try things on race day thatyou've never practiced with
before.
And that was going to be one ofyour main sources of fuel.
Now during a hundred, and thiswas kind of your Uh, response to
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me.
Go ahead, you say it.
Kevin (11:28):
It was not going to be my only source of fuel.
Angie (11:31):
But it was supposed to be your main source of fuel.
I
Kevin (11:33):
was going to be taking in roughly one per hour.
Angie (11:35):
Yeah.
Kevin (11:35):
And that's, I mean It is a
Angie (11:37):
main fuel source.
Yes.
And you didn't know how yourbody responded to it.
Which is why, like, In 100 mileraces, there's obviously aid
stations and there's going to bethings that you possibly consume
at those aid stations thatyou've never practiced with
before.
But they're usually kind of likea one off type of thing.
Kevin (11:53):
Small cups of ginger ale continuously throughout the
whole race.
Did
Angie (11:57):
you?
Kevin (11:57):
Oh yeah, all the time.
Hey look, it's ginger ale.
That sounds delicious.
Let's put one of those guysdown.
Angie (12:01):
You did that during this race?
All
Kevin (12:02):
the time.
You
Angie (12:03):
didn't mention that when I was All
Kevin (12:04):
the time.
When I
Angie (12:05):
was asking you, like, what did you take in at the aid
stations.
Kevin (12:07):
Because you were, you were writing down things that
were like You know, substantialcalorie.
Like you were trying to makesure that I was getting enough
calories and it was not, it waslike the smallest little, like
it's
Angie (12:18):
still important for us to write it down so that we know
how your stomach reacts.
Kevin (12:21):
Yes.
But like picture, like the, thelittle tiny plastic cup of
mouthwash
Angie (12:26):
that you get
Kevin (12:27):
at like the dentist office, that's the size and they
weren't like filled to the brim.
Angie (12:30):
And were they all flat too?
Kevin (12:32):
No, no, no.
They kept, they were freshlypouring them continuously for
hours and hours.
So
Angie (12:36):
there was carbonation in it.
Yes.
Interesting.
But yeah, you know, in our, inyour last hundred in Daytona,
you had like a cup of ramen,you'd obviously had never
practiced on a cup of ramen, butthat's exactly what you needed
at that time.
Yes.
Slurpee was great for you too,but we also, you never.
specifically practiced with aSlurpee, but we know in theory,
Slurpee was like a really greatidea for you at that point in
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time.
Kevin (12:58):
In theory, it's like, it's a giant cup of ice and
sugar.
Angie (13:01):
I mean, it wasn't going to go worse than how you were
already feeling.
Also true.
Right?
Like when you start to weigh outthe risk versus the reward of
that.
Kevin (13:09):
Well, see, that gets to one of my mantras for the race,
which was, um, okay, how did Ikeep trying to phrase it?
I kept changing it in my head,but it was like, uh, internal
organs on the inside was what Ikept, kept going through my head
because I'm like, I feel so muchbetter in this race than the
last one.
I wonder what the majordifference is.
Uh, yes.
Internal organs on the inside.
Angie (13:29):
That would be it.
That would definitely make adifference.
And, you know, thank goodnessfor hernia surgery.
There you go.
Okay.
So, um, the plan was to leavearound 1 30, which obviously did
not happen considering Ifinished my call at one o'clock
and Kevin didn't have his fuelsource.
And so originally what I, whenwe were realizing earlier that
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week, cause he had ordered thisfuel source from a website that
said it was going to be two tofour days shipping.
And I said, I don't know if, Ithink that's.
I think we're, we're playing ittoo close here and he's like,
no, no, no, it's going to befine.
It says two to four days, two tofour business days.
And I said, he ordered this likeSaturday or Sunday, the weekend
before he's like, no, no, itshould be here by like Thursday.
And I'm like, okay, I stillthink you should just order it
(14:11):
on Amazon.
He's like, Amazon, Amazondoesn't sell it, but you ordered
like several things on thatwebsite.
Yes.
Um, most of which you couldorder on Amazon, and there's
this one thing you couldn't get.
But, so anyway, long storyshort, the shipment never
arrived, not that surprising.
And so then we were looking onthe website to try to find,
(14:33):
because they do sell this instores, and there was a store.
Like there was a couple storesin Miami, but we didn't really
want to drive that.
But there was a store inLakeland, which is where the
race was.
And I'm like, okay, great.
Then we should call them andmake sure that they have it in
stock.
We can go and pick it up there.
No problem.
But it was by the time that wasThursday night, they were
already closed.
So we had to wait to call themon Friday, which is what you
(14:55):
did, right?
Kevin (14:56):
Yeah, but I mean, calling him on Friday or Thursday or
really any point would not havemattered because they did not
have it.
Neither did the stores in Miami.
Angie (15:03):
They didn't have it.
Kevin (15:03):
Um, they did not have it.
Nobody had it.
Yeah.
Angie (15:05):
So Kevin was freaking out, um, on Friday.
Kevin (15:07):
I was super calm and definitely not just, like,
shaking.
Angie (15:11):
Mm hmm.
Very, very agitated.
Not, like, just very, like,Like, anxious, right?
Like, like a ton of anxiety ontop of you.
Anxious is
Kevin (15:18):
the best word.
Like, I was, I, literally, Icouldn't hold my hands still.
Like, you weren't mad, but
Angie (15:21):
you were very anxious.
Kevin (15:23):
I was trying my best to not be mad.
Angie (15:25):
At yourself or at me or what?
Kevin (15:27):
Yep.
Every direction.
Yeah.
I was just trying to not shootmadness out into the world and
so it was then just coming outas anxiety.
Angie (15:34):
agitation, right?
Like you were very likefrustrated, agitated, anxious.
And so I said, okay, look, youjust go to our local running
store and get whatever fuel youneed, like get the gels, get
whatever.
And he kind of was pushing backand I said, just go, I'll have
everything packed up and we'llbe ready to go as soon as you
get back.
And that trip took a little bitlonger than expected because
(15:55):
that shop is a little, it's notclose to our house and there's
just not really a good way toget there.
Kevin (16:00):
There is no No direct way.
As the crow flies, I should beable to get there in 10 minutes
and 10 minutes back.
But as the cars drive, it takesalmost an hour and I got caught
behind a train.
Angie (16:12):
Yeah, and
Kevin (16:13):
everybody on the road were literally driving past
speed limit signs.
The speed limit said 45 andevery car on the road thought,
yep, 25 is the appropriatechoice.
I was screaming as I'm drivingalong.
I mean, this probably isn't thesafest thing, but I was venting
a lot of my anger andfrustration In a car to people
that couldn't hear me.
(16:33):
So by the time I got back, Iwasn't like screaming at our
children, which, which is good,I think was a, a healthier way
to go.
That was a, that was
Angie (16:40):
a win.
So essentially when Kevin gotback, everything was ready.
The girls were like, literallyin the car.
We were waiting for you tobasically just get in the car
and let's go.
Kevin (16:49):
Right.
Which was perfect because thenall he had to do was just dump
the thing into the back of thecar and sit down and, and then
you started driving.
Mm-hmm Which was good'cause Iwas, I was on the verge of
hitting people at that point.
Angie (16:58):
Yeah.
Yeah, so we got on the road atthat, like, around 2.
45, 2, it was almost 3 o'clock.
It was
Kevin (17:05):
almost 3 o'clock.
Angie (17:06):
Yeah, it was like 50, and it's about a four hour drive.
Now keep in mind, we, so there'sclearly no way we're making the
5 o'clock meeting, but wewanted, we really needed, quote
unquote, needed to be there by 7o'clock to pick up Kevin's bib
and race packet.
That was really the goal.
Kevin (17:23):
Right.
Because in order to get into thepark the next morning, we needed
a parking pass.
And when you pick up the bib, itcomes with the parking pass.
So then you don't have to stopthe next morning.
You just smoothly drive into thepark and you go to your parking
location and you're good to go.
And you know, in the, all thematerials you get beforehand, it
says there may be a long line onthe morning of.
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And so that's just like a biggray area.
And when you're heading to arace, the fewer.
Question marks you can have thebetter it is so we're really
trying to hit the the seveno'clock and you put it into the
GPS which popped up on the bigscreen in the car and it said
arrival time of like 708 and I'mlike, that's not good
Angie (18:05):
and that's without bathroom stops, right?
Yeah
Kevin (18:08):
You're like, I don't know, we'll make up some time.
I'm like, yeah.
I
Angie (18:10):
go, oh, I can get that.
Then that's not a problem.
I can make that.
Kevin (18:13):
Not with the amount of times we need to stop for a
bathroom.
Angie (18:16):
Challenge accepted.
That's how I drive.
Kevin (18:18):
Yeah, if it was just you in the car, you would have made
it there at 6, and it would havebeen fine.
But that's not what washappening.
Angie (18:24):
Well, and it's not a good idea either, because Then you
started not drinking waterbecause like you wanted to
restrict liquid so that wedidn't have to stop for the
bathroom.
And it was just not a good idea.
You were super anxious.
You were like not drinking, noteating because you wanted to
just hold everything in until wegot there including possibly
your breath.
Kevin (18:43):
And certainly all of my emotions.
I was trying to just holdeverything in and shove it down.
Angie (18:47):
Not a good idea.
Kevin (18:48):
As soon as we hit the first bathroom break maybe?
Angie (18:51):
Yeah.
Was that when I did it?
I think it was the firstbathroom break that, yeah, one
of our daughters kind of pipedup from the back seat and said
that she needed a bathroom.
And once we kind of decidedthat, that was when you kind of
said, okay, we need to let thisgo.
Kevin (19:05):
Yeah, because we came back from the bathroom break and
If we were efficient to like, wewere not screwing around in and
out, back in the car, hit theGPS.
And it was like arrival time,seven 20, because we'd also hit
seven 15.
We'd also hit some constructionalong the way.
There was so much traffic.
So you couldn't, you can't likemove because it's two lanes,
there's construction off to theside.
(19:26):
So nothing's, you're not evendriving the speed limit again,
the theme of, of driving forthose first.
few hours there of my going tothe store and getting on the
turnpike was just don't drivethe speed limit.
Speed limit minus 20.
That's what we had going on.
Um, so it was It was fine whenwe got back in the car and it
was clear that we were we werelosing time to the GPS I was
(19:50):
like, all right, we're justwe're gonna go we're gonna get
the packet tomorrow morning andthat's going to work
Angie (19:57):
Yeah And as soon as he made that decision and like was
he said to me and communicatedit to me and there was just this
sense of calm around it I I justsaid, okay, like, are you sure?
And he said, yes.
And he said it very calmly.
And I said, okay, I already feellike you feel better.
And you're like, I do like, wejust need to release it.
It's going to be fine.
(20:18):
And so once he came to that, itwas just like, okay.
And then we looked up at thesign on the turnpike, you know,
how they have those signs thatare crossing over the turnpike
that tell you about silveralerts and different
notifications that you need.
And do you remember what thesign said?
Kevin (20:33):
Uh, Don't worry, don't hurry.
No,
Angie (20:38):
don't hurry.
Be happy.
Kevin (20:41):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
That was it.
Angie (20:43):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
Like as soon as we made thatchoice,
Kevin (20:47):
literally, I said, we're, we're just going to relax and
we'll get the thing tomorrow.
It was maybe 30 seconds maximum.
And then this sign showed up
Angie (20:56):
wild.
And I said, I looked at him andwe both were just like, Oh my
gosh.
And I said, that's a sign fromyour angels that, that from God,
that we just made the rightdecision.
Kevin (21:05):
And if we miss that one, the same sign showed up again,
like five minutes down the road.
Right.
It was just like, in case youmissed it.
In case
Angie (21:10):
you missed it.
Yes.
Kevin (21:12):
Here you go.
Angie (21:12):
Don't hurry.
Be happy.
And then he like pulled out hiswater bottle and started
chugging water, which was great.
Which was so much
Kevin (21:19):
better.
And then we had a couple of morerest stops along the way because
I was hydrated, which was adrastic improvement over, you
know, the alternative.
Yeah.
Angie (21:28):
Because if you weren't drinking water for four hours on
the way, that would have justbeen a disaster the next day.
Yeah.
Kevin (21:34):
No, that would have been awful.
Angie (21:35):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, the trip took, um, a littlebit longer than expected.
We hit terrible traffic alongthe way, but we made it there,
and we decided, okay, we aregoing to go to dinner before the
hotel.
Um, because, you know, okay, nowwe can get dinner at a better
time, and this and that, whichagain, Didn't end up working out
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dinner took a little bit longerdinner was late We got to the
hotel kind of late at like Idon't think we checked in to
like nine o'clock
Kevin (22:03):
It was fine.
Everything just was taking alittle bit longer than ideal And
that was the thing is once I hadreleased it.
It was like well This is what'shappening and everything then
that was taking a little bitlonger Wasn't as annoying like
people were hungry That was kindof annoying is people literally
were just hungry.
We, when we sat down, it waslike, all right, we need some
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food now, but I wasn't annoyedat it as much as I was just
like, I could really usesomething to eat rather than I
could use something to eat and Iwant to strangle somebody.
Like, I think the first optionis so much nicer.
Angie (22:35):
so much nicer.
So this time we went to OutbackSteakhouse, um, because Kevin
felt like he wanted a burger.
We were kind of talking aboutwhat he wanted to eat, um, the
night before the race.
And last time we went toCarrabba's and he had a big bowl
of pasta, he had Italian.
This time we've been kind oftalking about getting more
protein into him, um, for hismuscles and those kinds of
things.
And so we, uh, so you want totalk about what you ate before?
Kevin (22:59):
So I had a half pound burger and a giant baked potato
covered in salt.
I mean, It's not necessarilywhat you might consider carb
loading, but at a hundred milesIt's debatable how helpful carb
loading is because you're outthere for so long that even if
you've maximized your your likeglycogen storage You're you burn
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through that still gonna
Angie (23:20):
run out
Kevin (23:20):
you're running out and you've got hours To go like many
many hours and so the idea ofjust make sure you get as much
Fuel into you as you can, notjust like in the day leading up
in the days leading up, makesure you have a big pasta
dinner, but it's like theconstant making sure that you
are fully fueling your body.
(23:40):
And then, yeah, if you want tohave like a nice big meal the
night before, like that was alot of food I put in and.
I felt fine.
I mean, I felt really good atthe start of the race, so that
was good.
Angie (23:51):
Yeah, I think it was a good choice for you.
Um, so we got back to the hotel.
Oh, I realized, Oh, actuallyafter dinner, we went to the
grocery store to pick up some,um, last minute things that we
needed for, for breakfast andsome other things.
Um, the girls, we'd eatenthrough the grapes, um, in the
car, I think, um, like on theway there.
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So we needed to get more grapes.
Oh no, I think we.
Throughout the week.
Through school lunches, wefinished off grapes.
Yeah.
So we needed to pick up, causegrapes were on the fueling plan.
And thank goodness, becausespoiler alert again, grapes were
Kevin's pretty much favoritefuel source this race, right?
Kevin (24:26):
Certainly for the second half of the race.
Like the last two laps, Ibasically.
In terms of like normal food, Ifueled on grapes and that was
good.
Angie (24:34):
And those were, those were great.
Cause I was like looking up thenutrition info is like how much
cow, how many calories, how manycarbs?
I'm like, okay, these areactually a really good source of
both calories and carbs for him.
Kevin (24:44):
Right.
And if I tried to do somethingsimilar in terms of like.
Raisins, that's just upping yourfiber content much and there's
no water in there.
So just flipping it over tograpes I don't know if that'd be
great at shorter distances, butin something where I'm out there
for this many hours grapes werefantastic
Angie (25:00):
Yeah, they were a very good choice.
I mean, I think it's gonna beharder In races of shorter
distances, you don't see likeyour crew as much either.
So it's to, to carry, you know,like grapes are just bigger than
raisins.
Yeah.
Kevin (25:11):
I think you and one of our daughters kept asking if I
wanted to take potato chips withme out on the thing.
And I'm like, I'm not, I don'thave my backpack, so I don't
have a place to put potatochips.
Like where am I, what am I doingwith that?
Angie (25:23):
Yeah.
So, um, we ended up going to bedlater than.
We wanted to, which wasprobably, what, ten, a little
after ten we ended up going tobed?
Kevin (25:32):
That sounds about right.
Angie (25:33):
So I ended up getting like some, oh, I also forgot the
boiled potatoes because boiledsalted potatoes were going to be
on our list of things for him toconsume throughout the race.
So I got like a baked potato anda sweet potato at the grocery
store, and I just microwavedthem at the hotel.
to cook them so that we couldhave those options as well.
Kevin (25:54):
I have no idea what mile mark I was at that you came to
me with a peeled, boiled sweetpotato in a ziplock bag and you
were like, here, take a bite ofthis and see if it seems like
something you want to bring withyou.
And I took a bite and I'm like,what is this?
This is the worst food evercreated in the history of
mankind.
And you look at me so calmly andyou're like Does it just need a
(26:17):
little extra salt?
I'm like, no, no, it needs to beanything besides what I am
currently eating is what itneeds to be.
Because
Angie (26:22):
I was going to give it to you to take with you, but I
said, just, I said, just take abite first to see if the answer
is like, absolutely not.
I'm not going to consume that.
And that was very clearly whatthe answer ended up being.
Kevin (26:33):
I am surprised that I chewed and swallowed it because
as soon as the, you
Angie (26:37):
walked away, I thought you were going to go spit it
out.
Kevin (26:39):
I did not.
I did.
I took a first step to go spitit out and then I continued
chewing and I'm like, I mean.
They made the worst food evercreated, but I'm definitely not
eating this whole thing.
That's not, that's not going tohappen.
Angie (26:49):
You were just like, he was just shaking his head.
He was chewing it with thisdisgusted look on his face and
just shaking his head.
No.
Yeah.
That could have been like aroundthe 50 mile mark when you were
already annoyed.
I think that was also coincidedwith your like angry, annoyed
time.
I
Kevin (27:07):
feel like that was 50.
Angie (27:08):
Yeah.
So, um, okay.
So bed that night.
How'd you sleep?
Kevin (27:12):
Um, I slept fine.
I had to get up and go to thebathroom because I was like
ridiculously hydrated, but Ionly had to get up once.
And I feel like before the lasttime I was getting up
constantly, like between thecombination of nerves and
hydration, I was getting up likecrazy.
This time, I think theridiculously salted baked potato
was helping me retain waterrather than let it just pass
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through.
Angie (27:33):
Yeah, so that was really good.
I actually slept really well,which was surprising, um,
because the bed was not supercomfortable, but thank goodness
I brought my own pillow.
That is a must for me for sure.
So, race time was 7 a.
m.
Wake up time, 5 a.
m.
So that he could start fueling,um, because the goal was to
leave the hotel at 5 30.
Because we wanted to be there nolater than six o'clock because
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now we had to pick up theparking pass.
We had to pick up his racepacket.
So there was more things thatjust got added to race morning.
So we wanted to make sure thatwe were there with plenty of
time to do all that.
Kevin (28:06):
But race morning itself went really smooth.
I thought.
Angie (28:10):
Yeah, until I found, realized that I didn't have the
cap to your water bottle.
Kevin (28:14):
Up until that, like, from the hotel, getting into the car,
leaving, getting to our parkingspot.
Angie (28:20):
I mean, the goal was 530, we left the parking lot at 535,
so that was pretty good.
Kevin (28:25):
I must have not even been looking at my watch, because in
my head we were nailing it, wewere fine.
Angie (28:30):
Which, I mean, we left the room around like 532 maybe,
you know, so by the time we werein the car and pulling out, it
was like 535.
Kevin (28:37):
There was also another person that I saw who was
heading to the race and he wasleaving at the same time.
So whether he had his bibalready or not, I'm like, ah,
this is another person headingto the same place we are.
So this, I feel like we're ontime.
So that was.
That was good.
Yeah,
Angie (28:51):
so we got there, like got to the place, got the parking
pass without a problem.
Kevin walked out to get, um, toget his bib while I started to
kind of unpack the car andrealize that we had his handheld
water bottle.
Now those of you that have beenfollowing us for a little while,
you remember, Probably that inDaytona at his last hundred
mile.
We forgot his handheld waterbottle like it just somehow
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didn't get packed And so we wererunning around the night before
to Dick's sporting goods and tovarious places trying to find
him a handheld water bottle andWe ended up buying like the last
handheld at Dick's and it wasterrible Blah, blah, blah.
So, this time, this handheldwater bottle has like become my
nemesis.
So, I pull everything out.
The handheld is there, but Ican't find the cap.
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And so Luckily, there was a verynice man that was directing
traffic.
He wasn't ended up being likethe head of the race station.
And he came over and he's like,what do you guys need?
He's like, I think I have anextra one.
I think I might be able to fit.
So he kind of gave you anotheroption to kind of help to ease
your mind that morning, whichwas nice.
Kevin (29:54):
Right.
Because for the first lap, itwas, I mean, at that point it's,
it's race morning.
There's.
I'm past anxiety because I havecompletely accepted that anxiety
is not helping.
The night, the day before,there's, there's a lot of nerves
and agitation and it feels likeit's useful to have.
It's not.
It's clearly just a waste of allmy energy.
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But on race morning Everything'sgoing smoothly.
We're leaving on time.
We're arriving on time.
We're finding a great parkingspot.
Everything is going smoothlyIt's just it's laying out
exactly how it's supposed to goEven if it's not that I'm just
flipping everything in my headto be like actually We got
behind that car because nowwe're gonna get a better parking
spot and we had a great parkingspot and it was We actually had
(30:36):
a perfect parking spot becausethen when you couldn't find the
cap and you were talking aboutit, the guy who was directing
traffic heard us.
If we were further into theparking lot, he never would have
heard us.
That's
Angie (30:47):
true.
And I, I wouldn't have thoughtto ask him, you know, like, so
that was fantastic.
It was, you know, again, I thinkit was our angels guiding us of
like, this is exactly what'ssupposed to be happening right
now.
Kevin (30:59):
Yeah.
You never would've thought toask him.
I'm surprised that it didn'toccur to you to just start
asking at other cars if anybodyhad a spare cap, because in all
likelihood someone probably didand would share.
Like, as I'm running my firstthing, I started chatting with
the person that I was runningwith and he goes, wait, what
brand is it?
Cause I know I have like.
Two extra caps in my gear and
Angie (31:19):
we're going to invest in some more equipment.
Like, well, it's not only sparecaps, but I think another
handheld as well.
That's just going to like livein my car from now.
So.
Um, anyway, so Kevin, we, webasically got him to the
starting line.
Anything else you want to say,like, before the starting line
of, like, how you were feeling?
Like, how were you feelingbefore the race started, I
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guess?
Kevin (31:43):
I was pretty neutral, honestly.
Like, you were trying to do,like, a pre race interview to
put up on social media and,like, get my thoughts and
everything, and I was doing mybest to stay neutral.
Neutral to not be overly excitedto not be down It's kind of
funny like you go to thestarting line of a 5k and they
get a DJ there They got like thebass going and stuff the start
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of an ultra.
Everybody is getting ready torun for like 20 to 30 hours and
You know, there's some peoplewho are making some like awkward
jokes people who are like, Ihaven't seen you in a year But
there's not like music bumpingand stuff like that.
It's it's a very differentfeeling
Angie (32:24):
Yeah, because you can't sustain that kind of energy for
that amount of time time.
Kevin (32:28):
No, everybody realizes there's no reason to get hyped
right now.
There's
Angie (32:31):
no reason, like, so I think that a neutral mindset is
actually a really good place tobe.
And
Kevin (32:35):
that is what I was doing.
I was trying to stay as neutralas I could at the starting line.
Which means I probably gave aremarkably boring interview
before the race.
Angie (32:43):
It wasn't that great.
So um, Oh, if you guys didn'tfollow along live, you can still
catch all of that.
All of these, I actually made a,a highlight on our Instagram
profile.
So if you go to our profile atreal life runners, and that is
two L's real life runners, um,there is a highlight on the, um,
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profile that is the long haul100.
So you can kind of see all ofthe.
Stories along the way.
Kevin (33:10):
It's a fun one because I'm blonde in the picture that
you have for the like littlethumbnail for that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Cause
Angie (33:15):
that was from Daytona when you were blonde.
Um, so, okay.
So the race started, so Kevintakes off, you know, the, the
race starts.
And so the girls and I walk backto the car at that point.
I'm like, well, I'm like.
So, I, I'm looking, okay, I'llgive you a little, my
perspective.
Yeah, you gotta
Kevin (33:29):
do the crew perspective.
So,
Angie (33:30):
I'm looking around at these people and they've got,
like, all sorts of things setup.
They've got, like, a table setup and they've got all these
chairs and they've got, like,bins of stuff.
And I'm looking at what I've gotand I'm like, well, we don't
have any.
I mean, we had a couple chairs,but I didn't have, like, a table
or bins or any of this stuff andI'm like feeling woefully
unprepared and Kind of askingand questioning like what did I
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get myself into like I literallyhave to leave right now to go
get coffee Like I didn't evenhave coffee for myself.
And so So that is definitelysomething I need to pre plan
next time because we did havethe perfect parking spot right
when we pulled in and I had toleave and so I ended up losing
that parking spot, which wasfine, like we were just maybe 50
feet away from where Ioriginally was.
Kevin (34:16):
But as we've already covered, it was 101 miles and
then that made it like 101 and ahalf.
Angie (34:22):
I did add, it did add a little bit more to your race,
like where the second part was.
So the girls and I decided itwas going to be at least two
hours, probably, you know, twoand a half, two to two and a
half hours, um, until we saw youagain.
So we went to go get Starbucksin the town that was nearby,
which was basically a 45 tominute to an hour trip there and
back.
I'm also like, well, what elseare we going to do?
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You know, we're just going tosit around.
So we went to Starbucks and.
The service which was muchbetter in town because I also
realized that the service at thepark was terrible.
It's in the middle of a FloridaState Park.
That's to be expected.
So we went and got Starbucks.
We came back, found our newparking spot.
And so then when I started tounload the car, I started to
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feel a lot better.
Like I had all of our bags, allof our supplies, and I put out a
yoga mat to kind of layeverything out on.
Um, so it wasn't a table thatwas elevated like the other
fancy campers there, but it wasfine.
And I got, kind of got.
As I was unloading, the cap forthe handheld water bottle
magically appeared.
Like literally out of nowhere.
I don't even know where it camefrom.
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It's not like I like reachedinto a bag and find it.
It was literally as I waspulling bags out of the car, the
cap flew out at me.
Like it jumped out and I waslike, Oh my God, it's the cap.
Like it was, it was magic.
appeared.
Kevin (35:40):
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
Which you then called to let meknow.
Angie (35:43):
Yeah.
It was so good.
Um, so yes.
So, because Kevin does carry hisphone with him.
So, I was able to like call him.
So, even though we only saw himsix times throughout the race,
um, we, I did call multipletimes.
We never did walk to that otherpoint where I was supposed to,
where See you I kind of forgotabout that.
Kevin (36:01):
Yeah.
No, there was a spot that youcould have walked Well, okay,
you would have had to walk amile there and a mile back to
the car Yeah, so it's like asixteen point seven ish loop.
And if you would walk that thingyou could have seen me it was
about a mile from your car andFrom that point because there
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were there Like it's this weirdspot.
I honestly I could not draw amap of what the course is that I
ran Yeah, but you pass theseouthouses going two different
directions and you pass themonce and then you pass them
again about Four ish mileslater.
And so you could have seen methere and then walked a mile
back to the car Well, I did thisfour mile loop and then ran a
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mile back to the car.
So you probably could have seenme at that point
Angie (36:46):
Yeah, but then we going back to how woefully unprepared
we were and how Well, clearly weare not campers, um, the girls
both were wearing Uggs and so Iwanted to like go take walks in
nature during the hours that weweren't hanging out with you and
one of them had Ugg boots andone of them had Ugg slippers on,
(37:07):
um, so she was like, well Idon't want to go walking, I
don't have the right shoes forthat, I'm like, why didn't you
bring sneakers?
Like, what in the world ishappening right now?
last
Kevin (37:17):
two times I've run a ridiculously long distance, you
guys basically lived in a carand grocery stores
Angie (37:24):
and that's it.
You know, like we really didn'tknow what we were getting
ourselves in for.
I'm like, okay, now we know likeif he does one of these trail
ultras again, it's essentiallylike camping.
Like that's what we have toprepare for.
Like we are going somewhere andcamping and can't leave and need
to have all of the supplies withus.
Kevin (37:39):
Yeah.
It's, it's funny.
Cause I, you know, there wereseveral Stations throughout and
like places where people couldhave parked And so when I got to
you guys, obviously you guyswere all up and going and ready
for me But I went past someother places Car after car of
people in their like, they'vegot a chair and then they've got
like a, a footstool in front ofthem and they're just napping
(38:00):
for, you know, the next fourhours until their runner comes
back because depending on howfast your runner is, you might
see them once every four to fivehours and so they're like, yep,
it's, it's my, uh, 11 o'clocknap time and they were like,
people were just out cold.
Who's funny.
Angie (38:16):
I know.
I know.
So yeah, we, um.
aren't really campers ingeneral.
I shouldn't say by nature, butby choice.
Um, we, like, don't really,haven't really gone camping
ever.
Kevin (38:27):
Where would we camp?
We live in South Florida.
Angie (38:30):
Right up in that area.
There's tons of campsites.
Like, if we go up there.
Yes, we'd have to drive up toCentral Florida.
That's what we'd have to do.
Yeah, there's tons of camping upthere.
There's a
Kevin (38:36):
big Boy Scout camp across the street.
Angie (38:37):
Yeah.
So, anywho, um, All right,that's where, so where were we?
So Starbucks, we got back,unloaded the car.
I started to feel much betterabout my life and my choices as
crew chief.
Still questioning why my husbandis trying to run 100 miles, but
you know, it's all good.
So I kept coming back to you.
So at
Kevin (38:55):
least I wasn't running away.
I kept coming back.
to you
Angie (38:58):
coming back.
Um, so after loop one, I mean,you felt good.
I did a little interview there.
Um, he was feeling good on loopone.
He was very happy that he couldtake off his backpack.
So he had, you, you did loop onewith the hydration vest because
you didn't have your hand.
It was the only way
Kevin (39:15):
to carry enough liquid,
Angie (39:15):
right?
And so you were kind ofannoying.
You're like, okay, this is justwhat we're going to have.
You know, it's just, it's fine.
It's good.
It's what we're, it's going tohappen.
So he took off his hydrationvest and was very happy to go
into the handheld.
Um, So we got the handheldrefilled, everything loaded up,
and then Kevin took off on Loop2.
Kevin (39:31):
Right, my issue with the vest is not the weight.
I've practiced plenty with theweight.
I couldn't, and that's why Iflipped my mind.
I'm like, alright, if I justhave to have the vest the entire
time, then that's what I'm goingto have to do.
I have practiced so many timeswith it.
I don't drink as much with thebackpack as I do with a handheld
because I can't tell how muchliquid is still in there.
(39:53):
I'm like, I feel like I've, I'vedrank at least a full handheld
and I haven't, you know, causeby the time I got back and took
it off after doing like 16 plusmiles.
There was way too much liquid inthere based off of like when I
cleaned it out later There wasway too much liquid to still be
in there
Angie (40:08):
Well to be fair when you did clean it out We had added
ice to it in case you wanted tolike come back and switch the
handheld and take the vest backOkay, so we did add ice to it,
but you had drank like When wefilled it up, it was at about 1,
100 ish milliliters, and youdrank it down to about 750.
So you had only drank about 350milliliters during
Kevin (40:30):
that time.
Right, whereas over that entireloop, I should have drank the
entire thing.
Angie (40:32):
Right.
So, so, I mean, that's, andthat's good to know, right?
Like it's good to know that youDrink less because in when you
do use the vest, you know infuture races You you have to
like force yourself to remindyourself that you're not
drinking enough,
Kevin (40:46):
right?
I mean on the first loop though.
I was chatting with this guylike for the first nine miles
because you hit aid station oneat about Four ish and then you
loop and you hit aid station oneagain at about nine ish And I
was with this guy and so we'rechatting and he seems to never
be taking in fuel I kept suckingoff my thing like everybody's
got you know, their drink spoutswherever they are on their
(41:08):
backpacks But no one else seemedto be eating anything.
I'm like We all need to beeating fuel.
What is going on?
And I'm not great.
Even with like gels and goos andstuff, I prefer to take a little
walking break and just get thatdown and make sure I get it down
with enough fluid.
And so, at one point, I stoppedto go to the bathroom in the
middle of the woods and tooksome fuel and then I went and
(41:29):
caught back up with them.
But I'm like, are they notfueling at all?
This seems like a reallydangerous plan for them, but I
think their plan was basicallywhen they got to aid stations,
they were fueling at those spotsor I don't, I don't know.
I have no idea.
Angie (41:42):
Well, I mean, and that's kind of what you did when you
got to us that one time isyou're like, I'm just going to
eat everything here.
Like I don't really want to takeany food with me because food
sounds terrible right now.
So I'm going to take a coupleextra minutes.
I'm going to eat things here sothat I can make sure to get in
more calories and then I'm justgoing to take the grapes and
the.
The liquid with me.
Kevin (41:59):
Yeah.
Because I took in an entirebanana and I forget what else I
took in at that stop.
But like going out and runningwith a banana on the run,
besides the fact that it wouldcrack me up because that's the
main fuel source of one of theguys that I coach is he runs his
long runs while carrying abanana so he can eat it halfway
through.
Really?
Yeah.
Way to go, Peter.
(42:19):
Um, and who was, who wasfollowing us despite living in
the UK and I have no idea whattime he was checking in on us.
Um, but.
Outside of that, carrying andeating a banana throughout the
thing seemed like a poor idea.
And they had bananas at the aidstations, but they were all
green.
And I'm like, that is way toomuch fiber.
Where is your, like, spottedbanana that's just basically
(42:40):
sugar?
It seemed, I don't know.
So, yeah.
Spotted
Angie (42:42):
bananas are gross, though.
Kevin (42:44):
I know, but they're all sugary.
So, if you can, if you can getit down, it's better.
Sugar content wise,
Angie (42:48):
for sure.
Spotted, browner bananas aredefinitely better for you.
Right.
Um, okay, so Loop 2, do youremember any details on Loop 2?
Kevin (42:56):
I ran the entire thing solo.
Angie (42:59):
Okay.
Kevin (43:00):
Like, I was just by myself the entire time.
Mm hmm.
And towards the very end of it,and this was weird off of Yeah,
no, no.
Loop 1 I was with people untilmile nine and a half, and then I
ran the back half solo, foundyou guys, headed off on loop
two.
Because you
Angie (43:16):
had to tell the aid station guy that we found the
water bottle.
Kevin (43:19):
Well, on loop one I stopped for four minutes.
Oh, so that
Angie (43:22):
he could find it.
Right, because he
Kevin (43:24):
wasn't there.
He said, I'll be at aid stationone.
So I get to aid station one,there's a nice man there dressed
as a dinosaur.
I asked him, where was Cory?
This is complete normal thingsat aid stations, so I asked the
guy dressed as the dinosaur, whoseemed like he was in charge.
Angie (43:37):
Well, meanwhile, okay, I have to interrupt you because
Kevin was telling us on the wayhome yesterday that, like, at
one aid station there was a ladydressed as a Care Bear that was
also with sparkles, and therewas a unicorn, and there's, and
the girls are in the backlistening to him, and like, Dad,
are you sure you weren't justhallucinating?
No,
Kevin (43:53):
100%.
That was the unicorn aidstation, and There was a guy
dressed as a dinosaur, and onceit hit nightfall, then the woman
who had, like, spots of glitterall over her cheeks and stuff,
she was dressed as the pink CareBear.
I don't know how that fit intothe Unicorn Aid Station, but
that's, that's who greeted youas you got to the aid station.
Someone coming in should belike, Woo! Runner! And just so
(44:16):
excited, whoever it was, thatwas the, that was the
excitement.
So, I get to the aid station andI'm like, is Corey here?
And they kind of look at melike, how do you even know his
name specifically?
Because he was in charge of thataid station and they're like,
um, he's supposed to be here,but Amy just took him that
direction and she's one of thetwo race directors and I'm like,
(44:38):
Alright, so now I've got toexplain to these guys.
I'm like, I have a handheldwater bottle, but it doesn't
have a cap.
And Cory said that he might havea cap that goes on it.
And they're like, well, he'ssomewhere that direction.
I'm like, somewhere thatdirection?
And then they pointed to, like,the woods.
I'm like, okay, can you give mea little bit more guidance?
And so Then thankfully he likepopped out from around the side
(44:59):
of a van and they're like therehe is in the hat so I go over
that direction to find Cory andHe sees me and gets this look of
shock on his face.
Like oh, I did not realize hewas gonna be here already Yeah,
like oh wait,
Angie (45:12):
he's fast
Kevin (45:13):
Okay, and so he goes over and I'm thinking maybe he's
gonna move with urgency none Hejust calmly walks over to his
tent and goes into his tent andstarts opening up bins and stuff
and comes back out Awesome, butI am now like, all right, I was
with this group of people andnow I'm not with this group of
people.
So if you could find mesomething quickly, I could go
(45:33):
back out and try and get tothem.
So I was at that aid station forlike four to five minutes and he
comes out and he goes, allright, I've got two water
bottles.
I think the cap on this onemight fit yours.
Nope, that doesn't fit.
All right.
What I can do.
is give you this water bottleand you can just have this water
bottle so it was fantastic hewas just gonna give me a water
bottle for the rest of the raceyeah which was awesome
Angie (45:54):
so awesome and so generous and so but anyway we
were talking about back to looptwo you were by yourself
Kevin (46:00):
i was completely by myself until Way late in it and
now runners are coming at me onthe same trail.
Okay, and remember the traildoesn't really like it's kind of
like a figure eight of whatyou're doing, but there's a few
stretches that I didn't quitenotice exactly on the map where
you're doing the same path, butgoing in opposite directions.
And so I'm running alongcompletely by myself.
(46:22):
I can't see anybody in front ofme or behind me.
And now runners are comingstraight at me.
And I am not convinced that I'mnot lost because.
I'm in the middle of the woods.
Yeah.
And everybody that I see isgoing the other direction than I
am.
And I'm like, did you guys seeanybody else going the direction
I'm going?
And they're like, no, we haven'tseen anybody.
I'm like.
All right, well, I keep, I stillsee flags, so I'm just going to
(46:45):
keep following the flag.
So that was a little nerveinducing on lap two, but
physically I still felt fine.
I was still putting fuel downand still moving along.
Angie (46:52):
Yeah.
And so you got back to us atlike, after the second loop and
you were at about 33 miles andyou're like, I'm tired.
And I was like, well, yeah, thatmakes sense.
Like, you're like my legs,they're just.
I'm just tired.
I'm like, stomach?
He's like, good.
Head?
Good.
Like, we do like kind of a bodycheck and he's just like, I'm
just tired.
I'm like, okay.
Well, that makes sense.
You've run over 50k.
Like you're, you should feeltired.
(47:13):
That's a normal thing right now.
So time to keep moving.
Like let's refuel you and keepgoing.
Kevin (47:19):
Yeah.
I mean, I think every time youhit something that seems like a
recognizable distance, yourbrain is, it starts counting.
Yeah.
And the challenge of an ultra isto.
Recognize where you currentlyare and not start counting too
far ahead of I finished lap two,but I have to do six laps I
finished 50k, but this is ahundred miles Like you can't get
(47:40):
too caught up in any of the thespecific numbers where you
currently are
Angie (47:44):
Yeah, I think it's much more helpful to Look back at
what you've already accomplishedversus looking ahead at what you
have left to go It seems likethat would be a way more helpful
tactic.
So We are going to take a pauseright here in the story since we
are kind of coming up on ournormal Podcast time here and
(48:05):
we're gonna say that this is theend of part one.
So thanks for joining us forpart one Full transparency.
We weren't really sure how longthis episode would be and so We
kind of got to this point andhad other things to do in real
life, like make dinner and beparents and watch, watch the
national championship.
And the rest of the week is justsuper busy.
(48:26):
So we wouldn't have time to getthis out.
In time for our regular Thursdayrelease, so part one is now
completed.
Please stay tuned next week forpart two where we kind of go
through the second half.
We haven't even made it to thehalfway mark yet, because you
will enjoy some of the funstories about kind of how Kevin
is at different points in therace because this is his third
(48:49):
race now and so I've noticed Uh,trend in kind of his mood and
what happens to him mentallythroughout the races.
So I will be sharing that nextweek as well.
And you'll get to hear all aboutthe middle of the race as, as
we're nearing the end of therace, what, you know, loops
three, four, five, and six werelike for him.
(49:11):
And then of course, the finishline of how he felt when
crossing the finish line of histhird 100 mile race attempt,
second completion.
So anywho, thanks for joiningus.
If this episode was helpful oryou enjoyed it, please leave us
a review on iTunes or Applepodcasts and share it on social
media so that more people canfind it.
(49:32):
And as always, this has been theReal Life Runners podcast,
episode number 394.
Now get out there and run yourlife.
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