June 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Harnessing Miracles and Personal Transformation: Nick Prefontaine's Journey
In this episode of Real Men Feel, host Andy Grant welcomes back Nick Prefontaine, a motivational speaker and bestselling author, who shares his incredible journey of recovery from a life-threatening snowboarding accident at the age of 14. Nick discusses the synchronicities and miracles that aided his survival and recovery, his experience working with Andy through Life Activation and Soul Retrieval sessions, and the impact of these experiences on his personal and professional life.
Nick emphasizes the importance of persistence, trust, and energy work in overcoming trauma and achieving life's goals. The episode also touches on men's resistance to energy work and the benefits of embracing it.
00:00 Miracles and Synchronicity
00:23 Introduction to Real Men Feel
00:36 Nick Prefontaine's Journey
02:14 The Snowboarding Accident
05:10 Recovery and the STEP System
07:33 Life After Recovery
09:14 The Power of Storytelling
13:05 Energy Work and Healing
17:12 Soul Retrieval Experience
23:24 Reflections and Advice
34:15 Conclusion and Resources
Connect with Nick
Nick Prefontaine -- https://nickprefontaine.com/step
Facebook -- https://www.facebook.com/nick.prefontaine.7
LinkedIn -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickprefontaine/
Resources
Nick's Prior Appearance -- https://www.realmenfeel.org/overcoming-trauma-with-nick-prefontaine-the-step-system/
Life Activation -- https://theandygrant.com/lifeactivation
Soul Retrieval -- https://theandygrant.com/service/soul-retrieval/
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I don't see how you can call your goggles moving to just the
right place at exactly the righttime and the synchronicity of
the one paramedic who's trained and what you needed to survive.
I mean, I would call those miracles.
Does that resonate for you? Oh, absolutely, 100%.
Things do happen for reason. That's synchronicity, those
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miracles, however you want to describe it.
Hello and welcome to Real Men Field.
I'm your host, author, coach andhealer, Andy Grant.
You can visit the and your grant.com to see how I might be
of service to you. We have conversations that most
men are not having, but that allmen and the women who love them
can benefit from. My returning guest today is Nick
Prefontaine. Nick is a three times best
selling author and a top motivational speaker.
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At age 14, Nick suffered a life threatening snowboarding
accident and his parents were told that he would probably
never walk, talk or eat again onhis own.
Today, Nick shares about his experiences working with me,
including the changes and improvements he noticed in his
life and business following a life activation.
We also explore the resistance that many men have to energy
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work and the side effect of happiness when you are your
authentic self. Let's do it.
Welcome back to Real Men Feel Nick.
Hey, happy to be here, Andy. I'm I'm looking forward to that.
So when we first spoke, you werethis is your second appearance
on Real Men Field. We first spoke it was episode
326 came out last November. And in that we really you shared
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your journey through trauma and the step system.
And I'll include a link to that episode and the show notes for
this one. But for a super quick summary,
Nick shared his amazing story ofsurviving a life threatening
snowboarding accident at age 14 and overcoming massive odds to
to simply to walk, talk, and eatagain.
And we discussed his step system, support, trust, energy,
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and persistence that he used to recover and now teaches others
to navigate trauma and life challenges.
Did it feel like I nailed that? Yeah, yeah, you did.
And I can give, AI can give likea 10,000 foot view as well to
really catch the listeners up towhere we are and like our work
together. And I'm, I'm just like, I'm
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thoroughly enthused about it. I'm excited about it after
working together with you. So yeah, it all all goes back to
a fateful day when I was at ski club with my friends in 8th
grade. Going up the chair left, we
noticed that people were wiping out everywhere.
However, that didn't slow us down.
So we were ready to go. Got to the top, buckled into my
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snowboard, took a breath of thatcrisp winter air and confidently
charged towards the biggest jumpof the train park with all my
speed and going up to it, I caught the edge of my snowboard
on the snow going up the jump and that kind of threw me off
balance. So I was told that I went off
the jump off balance and I laterlearned that I landed on my head
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and I wasn't wearing a helmet and the only protection that my
head had was a pair of goggles. And I learned that.
I later learned that not only did they brace my impact as I
continue to roll down the mountain and continue to hit my
head, my goggles mysteriously moved to cushion each blow.
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And then the hospital wanted to send a helicopter to the
mountain to rush me to the hospital.
They couldn't because it was toowindy handy, so they had to send
in an ambulance and out of the team of paramedics there was
only one who could intubate right in the spot and I needed
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that to be able to breathe. And lucky for me, he was one of
the paramedics that showed up tothe mountain that day.
So those two things that were really, I wouldn't be yesterday
if those two things didn't happen.
And then the third was at the hospital.
I was out. I was, I was in a coma, unable
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to communicate with anyone in the intensive care unit.
And each time the doctors would,the only people who were allowed
in my room was my parents. And each time the doctors would
come in to share the not so positive news.
Not so positive news. As I'm sure you or anyone
listening knows, when you have an acute injury or traumatic
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experience, they can't paint a rosy picture.
So the doctors would come in to share that right in front of me.
And my mom stopped them and she said no, no, not in front of him
because she understood that eventhough I was in a coma, I was
still taking in information. So she made the doctor step
outside the room. And then once they were there,
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that's when the doctor said thatI was in a coma.
I weren't sure how long I was going to be in a coma.
And even if I came out, there was a good chance that I
wouldn't be able to walk, talk or eat on my own ever again.
And this is the third thing thatI that I was talking about
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because none of that got throughto my mind.
It just allowed me to treat it like any other situation.
And what happened is I was in the coma for three weeks.
I really don't remember a month because it was a partially
induced coma. And then after a month, I was
transported to a rehab hospital.And that's where I began my
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journey of having to learn how to walk, talk and eat again.
And it was unknowingly at that point that I started to use a
system to not only make a full recovery, but run out of the
hospital. And that's the step system.
That's what you were referring to.
It stands for support, trust, energy and persistence.
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And yeah, I'm excited to be here.
So I I just wanted to fill in any gaps there for for anyone
that was wondering scratching it, what the heck are they
talking about? I appreciate that.
I don't know if I asked you thisbefore, but so you were in your
early teens and you, you mentioned not wearing a helmet
on on the mountain that day. Should you have?
Were you supposed to? Were you just kind of cocky,
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didn't care? Did you feel invincible?
Like what? Why weren't you fully protected?
So all those questions, yes, a combinational, all those.
So I I was cocky, I was, I was confident that, you know, I knew
what I was doing. However, when I went to that
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mountain, that particular mountain, it was Wachusett
Mountain, I would always wear a helmet.
And then when I went to any other bigger mountain up north,
I would always wear a helmet. So I would never wear that to
the regular hill that was in thetown that which I would go to
every day. I would never wear it then.
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But then whenever I went to these bigger mountains, I would
always wear it. And that day I had forgotten
anything. Anything would happen.
I just, you know, be careful andnothing ever did happen.
So, and you know, some somethingdid happen.
I don't see how you can call your goggles moving to just the
right place at exactly the righttime and the synchronicity of
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the one paramedic who's trained and what you needed to survive.
I mean, I would call those miracles.
Does that resonate for you? Oh, absolutely, 100%.
Yeah, definitely. Things do happen for reason.
That's synchronicity, those miracles, however you want to
describe it. Yeah.
And then if you you kind of move, if you kind of move beyond
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that. So I was in inpatient rehab for
a little under two months. And then I realized my goal of
running out of the hospital. And after that, it wasn't like,
all right, I'm all set. I can go back to my life.
There was, you know, there was still a lot of work to be done
after that. And I had to continue to go to
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outpatient therapy for another six months along with being
tutored all summer long in orderto continue on the high school
with the rest of my classmates. I ended up, I graduated high
school, found my way into real estate, got my real estate
license, was working with buyersand sellers sales.
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And then in 2014, I started to help my dad on the investor side
with the marketing of his properties that he was getting
non conventionally. So without using any of our bank
financing or cash or big investor payments or anything
that more if they knew me not renewing my real estate license
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in January of 2016, joining him full time.
And then coming up with a process that we have to bring
all these buyers to, to make sure that they're successful
when they get to the end of their agreement and they're
going to be able to get their own loan.
That that's what I've really been doing.
And we've been holding events since 2016 where I've always had
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the opportunity and I've shared this with you privately.
I think I've always had the opportunity to tell my story
from stage to our with events once or twice a year.
So ever since I got out of high school, I've I've always had
this voice in the back of my head that's always been telling
me, yeah, great, Nick, but what you really need to be doing is
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telling your story from stage and helping trauma survivors or
life challenge survivors throughwhatever they're going through
so that they're able to thrive with the rest of their lives.
So by telling my story once or twice a year in our events, I
always thought it was scratchingthat itch.
And then it was in 2019 that someone heard me speak at one of
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our events, the last one before COVID believe it or not.
And she, she approached me and she said I love, I love your
story. I'm not looking to steal you
from your dad. However, if you're ever looking
to fine tune your message and bring it to another level, I can
introduce you 2 of your coaches and mentors that have helped me
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get started. Well, I wasn't ready yet.
However, I always hung on her card, her information, and then
that voice just kept growing, getting louder and louder.
In May of 2021, I finally reached out to her and I said
OK, I'm ready, what should I do?She introduced me to her mentor
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who became my mentor, Tricia Brooke.
And from my first call with her,there's been no voice in the
back of my head. So what that's evidence to me of
is that I'm doing exactly what Iwas put in this earth to do.
So I had a call with her. I told her my goals, what I was
looking to do and I said, do youthink that's possible?
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She said absolutely. I said, art, what do you think I
should do? She said the speaker Salon, you
commute to New York City for sixweeks in a row and then on the
6th week you get to work on stage at the Triad Theatre in
New York City. And then for five weeks.
And then on the 6th week you getto perform for influencers, 10X
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organizers, event, other event organizers and planners,
podcasts, hosts, everything likethat that are looking for
speakers to book on their, on their platforms, on their on
their show, their stages. So I said yes, she said OK,
that's 25,000. So I did that.
And then halfway through the speaker salon, she pitched the
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idea of what it would look like to work with her one-on-one and
she said she specializes in helping speakers build out their
speaker platform. I didn't even know what that
was, however, I just knew I wanted more of her and what we
what we were building. So I said yes.
And as a result of that, now working with her one-on-one, she
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helped me launch my company, Common Goal.
And now I know what build out a speaker platform means because
now I'm giving keynote talks 50 and 60 minutes long plus 50 and
60 minute plus talks to brain injury associations, other
organizations that support individuals that are going
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through trauma. To me.
If you would have told me that prior to Trisha, like back in
2019 that I would be doing that,I would have told you that you
weren't, you weren't sync really.
That led me to, I've been doing a lot of podcast guessing and
that led me to be on your show last year.
That led to us working together one-on-one for four different, I
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believe Andy, it was 4 differentsessions.
And I am really the word, the word.
I just feels like so much more dialed in after our word
together. And if you want to talk a little
bit about that and like what what that kind of looks like
because everyone is different. Everyone wonder what they need
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and what their soul needs is is different.
Just to help people figure this out, the Mount Wachusett where
you had your accident at age 14 is 5 minutes from my house where
I live now. And we, we speaking after the
show and I discovered that you, you came to Massachusetts and
you, you, you saw someone from you'd been doing energy work for
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a while. So I told you about what, what I
had. And we, we work together for
four months. We did a session each month.
The first one was called the life activation.
And all four are from the modernmystery School, which I've been
an initiate and in here with since 2016.
They can only be done in person.The life activation starts with
sort of clearing old energy out of the way and then we literally
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put more light into your physical body.
And it's meant to deepen your connection to your divine
blueprint to have even more clarity over your, your mission,
your purpose, bring you that dialed in sense that that you
already said. So that was the big thing.
And that that having that opens up the opportunity for for more
healings, more refinements, morespecialties.
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You talk about being dialed in. So what else have you noticed
from the life activation in terms of your your business and
perhaps your personal relationships?
Like what? What else has stood out for you?
Well, I think the the word and, and I, I want to, I want to say
this, that I, I'm learning to trust myself, my feelings, my
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intuitions, more so than prior to that.
I think the word is discernment.The, The thing is, I, I say I'm
learning to trust myself is I had, I actually talked with an,
a coach of mine who's I'm, I'm not really working with, but
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just a, like a fellow, A fellow person speaker who I've kept in
touch with over the years. And I don't know if I share this
with you. And it was probably in early
February. I have just done some networking
and reached out to him and the feedback that he gave me, it
just didn't, I knew it wasn't for me.
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Like I discerned myself like, like, thank you.
I, you know, I'm kind of going, I'm kind of going this way, this
path and the discernment that would have, I think prior to my
work with you, Andy, that would have like set me on this path
and like threw me into a tizzy like, Oh, I have to be doing
this now. It's just, but now I know like
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the, the discernment that I feelis is really terrific because I
mean, yeah, I'm just very, I'm very happy.
Yeah, I I love how happiness is this amazing side effect from
strengthening your discernment, knowing what, what things would
serve you and what things just don't connect and and trusting
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that it's a challenge for many people.
It was a challenge for me for a long time that I put more stock
in the opinions of others than Idid in my my own inner self.
Does that make sense? Yeah.
Yeah. So what from what you're sure
with me? I I'm, I'm hearing that, yeah.
It doesn't matter what someone else says anymore.
Like, yeah, I know this helps meor I know it doesn't.
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Thanks for your time. Move on.
Or yes, I get a huge yes out of myself for this and let.
Let's do that thing. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So I think you said notice, have
I noticed the changes and like, like what has happened since
then? I have talked about the podcast
guesting. When I first met you, I was
doing four or five interviews a month.
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I've now double my, my guesting to 10 interviews a month.
I, I just couldn't be happier because it's, it's continuing,
continuing to give me the platform to be able to share my
message and tell my story and tohelp more people.
Awesome. And one of the things we did, we
did 2 sessions of something called soul retrieval.
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And this is a a really ancient shamanic exercise.
Anyone that has experienced trauma and especially anyone
that's had any sort of near death experience a coma, a
portion of our soul can splinteroff and, and flee and hide and
just out of out of fear, out of shock.
And whenever I meet someone that's had an experience like
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you have, I, I bring this up because that's who I see the
biggest impact. I mean, I think everybody would
benefit from it. But if you've had a, a literal
shock to your system and, and things are splintered off.
And I know we did 2 sessions. My recollection is the second
one was really hit home and So what what were your impressions
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of of that that the soul retrieval?
I was it was I don't, I don't know if you remember this, but I
said after I did it the first time, I didn't, I didn't
necessarily say I didn't verbalize it to you, but I was
like, I was like kind of feelinglike within myself, like in
angst within myself, if that makes sense.
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Like, no, I'm not really my favorite all the like all the
sessions and everything. And I mentioned that the next
time I came back the next month that I came back and I mentioned
that. And I think you said, well, if
you're use the word afraid, like, hey, it could be your,
like you're, you're afraid to dothat.
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And I, I took that as like a, a challenge.
I, I was like, oh, I'm not, I'm not afraid.
What do you mean afraid? And so I, I was like, all right,
I'm, I'm going to see this through.
I've already gone this far. I've already gone halfway or
1/4. I'm not going to like abandon it
now. Like I going to see this through
the what came out as far as thatand some of the insights that
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you share with me. I, I don't think I've ever
shared this the waiting room, like the waiting room at the
Antezer care unit. None of my friends could come
see me in the room at the the hospital room at the in the ICU.
However, they were always relegated to the waiting room.
And I didn't even have that conversation with you.
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And you said you were almost, itwas almost like you were picking
up pieces of me that were on thechairs in a rectangular,
circular or square room that wasthe waiting room.
And like picking them up and then putting them back like into
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me. And I was, I couldn't believe
that that you said that I, I was, I was blown away by that.
So I was so happy I followed theprocess through because I think
with Howard, I would have, I would have just stopped and
like, no, that maybe that's not for me or whatever and I would
have missed out on the all the benefits that I'm getting as a
result. Yeah, So often soul retrieval is
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a multiple session sort of thing.
It, it ends when you, your body,your soul says that's enough for
this time. And during the first one, I
could tell we're working on things, but we weren't hitting
the accident and we had to like lay some groundwork before those
pieces would would be willing toreturn.
And it's funny, I I I would not have remembered that I said that
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you were afraid of it. I would I in my mind, I was
like, oh, no, you you have resistance.
I'd be gentle. But so yeah, if if, if saying
you were afraid is what fired upyour masculinity to say no, I'm
not Andy, I was telling you like, great, I'm glad to hear
that. So for a soul retrieval that the
client, you, you just you just lay down.
And I don't know if you kind of you could drifting out of sleep.
There wasly wasn't anything you need to do.
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And I do some work and it's usually a very, very visual
experience for me, but I, I don't, it's not like a play by
play. So once we were done, we kind of
talked about what did you feel and notice?
And I told you what I felt the notice.
What, what I remember the most is that I got a clear message
that we're just going to focus on this number of months to be
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retrieving things back. And then we spoke after that was
the exact length of your stay inthe hospital.
Again, I, I knew you're, I knew about your accident.
I didn't know details and the visuals.
I had to gather the missing pieces of you.
There was a, a snow rake going down a mountain getting all the
pieces. And then we, I, then I was in an
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ambulance, then I was in the ER.And then now you mentioned I was
in a waiting room and just getting all of these pieces from
all these different people is what it felt like.
Like friends of yours carried the the bits of your soul that
scattered. And it was an amazing experience
of, of love and connected to this.
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I've, I remember being on the verge of tears during the
session for you. I'm like, I could not pull it
together. I like, I can't get lost in my
experience. I'm going to be serving Nick.
Yeah. So that was again, from my end.
It was the most powerful soul retrieval I've been honored to
be part of. That side just you bringing up
these like these memories is like is the about saying you
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were you were like raking the mountain Because if you think of
it from the point of my accidentuntil early March, I don't have
any memory of that because it was it was a coma, partially
induced coma. So even though I have my eyes
open and they said I came out ofmy coma, I didn't know.
So for you to say all those little things like to collect
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pieces of me from, from the mountain, from what you Samoan,
from the ambulance, like in the ambulance and then into the
waiting room where all my friends were, that that was just
that really hit home with me. And I was so happy I followed
this process through with you. A a common fear is that, well,
if, if I know I live through something horrific, like if I
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welcome that back, am I going torelive it?
Am I going to experience it? Right.
But everything that returns to you is it's it's clean of any
trauma. It it's, it's the highest
aspects of yourself that again, just got frightened and and
splintered away for their own survival.
So have you noticed anything since that session?
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Like the like, I don't know, I don't, I don't know how like do
you feel that you're more together?
Do you feel full? Like what?
What? What's it been like since that
for you? Yeah, so I used to, I used to
feel like I'll just, I'll use this example like on the
weekends, for example, like going outgoing to have dinner,
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like going, going out and going to have dinner at a bar or
something like that. I used to feel like, OK, I, I
have to be doing that. But now I'm like, if I don't
want any plans, I'm totally OK just staying at home with my dog
hanging up, hanging on the couch.
I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm like, I'm OK doing that.
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So it's AI think a calm and likea knowing within me that that
I'm like, I'm I'm going to like,I'm set to to have these
experiences in my life, whether I do one thing or the other.
So it's kind of a it's a knowingand kind of like AI don't know.
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It's, it's really it's really hard to put into words.
I'm, I'm, I'm just so happy thatwe did it though, because now I
feel like I have more, even moreto share with the world than I
had before. So with that sense, what are you
desiring, right? What's what's your deepest
desire for how to share more of yourself with the world?
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How, what possible ways does that show up?
It might just is it strengthening what you're
already doing, or have there been glimmers of new ideas that
you haven't explored yet? So I think prior to doing all of
these, doing all these sessions with you, like the life
activation, the soul retrieval, everything like that, I, I just
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had in my mind success or not not success, but where I wanted
to get to with following my following this calling and
following my speaking is OK. I have to be getting stages and
every year I've been getting more and more stages to be able
to tell my story at different, different people's events and
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everything, organizations, events and everything like that.
Now I realize and, and I've I'vealready shared that I've doubled
the number of interviews guest, like podcast guest thing.
I doubled that. Now I realize it's so much more
than that. It's not just stages.
It's really getting my message out there to more and more
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people. And I think podcasting is
allowing me to do that. It's allowing me to get my
message out there to more and more people.
Yeah, that that's kind of changed my definite my
definition of oh, OK, I have to be doing it like events.
That's kind of change, if that makes sense.
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Yeah. So that it's, there's more, it's
more adjustable. Your mission.
There's a container, but it's it's pliable.
Yeah, I think what what I was locked in new before, which is
to say that it has to be different events with hundreds
and hundreds, if not thousands of people is to say that was
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like an ego. That was an ego thing.
I think I I'm open and receptiveto having the opportunities and
those will come. I understand that because what I
have to share is powerful and the step system support, trust,
energy and persistence is powerful.
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And it's not just that because doing podcast guesting and now I
I really everything I do with it's not just one thing like
just speaking or just podcast guesting.
It's everything that I'm doing. I'm, I'm meeting people in in
every different form and fashionof my life.
That really feels more right, ifthat makes sense, Whereas I was
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locked into OK, I got to be get.I have to be getting stages and
speaking and and telling my story on the stage, but doing
this is exactly that. And that will come.
I understand that. And again, I'm open and
receptive to those opportunitiescoming.
I'm not, I'm not shunning that. However, right now this is what
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is giving me fulfillment, telling my story and being able
to spend time with like you, like I'm doing here today to
tell my story. Yeah, I'm having a flashback.
I think it was during the life activation.
And I don't know if I ever sharethis with you, but the notion
that everybody you meet, everybody you talk to, be it at
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a convenience store, be it, you know, waiting in line for it to
get a gas pump, every communication you have with
someone, it is your keynote address.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're you're you're you're
always on because you're you're generally being you.
So it's not just something you save.
Oh, here comes Nick for stage. No, it's, it's who you are.
It's. Who I am, yes, it.
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It's who I am. And when you say I'm always on,
it's not that I have to pretend to be anyone else, because this
is who I am. So you, you, you mentioned when,
when I said that, oh, you're, you might be afraid of this next
session and that kind of riled you up and got you ready to go.
What would you say to men, 'cause I do, I still, I serve a
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lot more women come to me for these healings than men.
So what would you say to skeptical men now that you've
had the experience and you experienced your own skepticism
as well? Great question.
I didn't I, I didn't have an agenda just because I knew we'd
just because we were together and I, I knew we would we would
be able to get to and share whatwas the most important thing.
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What would I share to people, men specifically having
resistance? I would say just just give it a
chance. What do you have to lose?
Because for me it was, I went into it working with you and in
the first session and the secondsession I was like, I was like,
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all right, this is kind of a cool thing.
Like this is kind of a fun thing, but then after the second
session, I was like, and I there's something here, there's
something here. I have to, I have to continue to
explore this with them because there, there's really something
here that I'm starting to tap into.
And I think without giving myself the opportunity to do
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that, all would be for naughty, I guess you could say.
So if anyone's skeptical out there about working with you and
doing like these life activations, soul activations,
soul retrieval, I would say so just give it a chance.
Just give it a chance and see where it goes.
And once you're in it, it's hardto walk away from to say like,
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Oh no, I'm all set with this. I, I don't want to improve my
life. I don't want to continue to
evolve an upward spiral. I feel that they call those, but
I, I don't want that. I want to stay stuck where I am
in fear and lack and limitation.So I'd say just give it a chance
and be open to it. Yeah, very true, very, very
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accurate is my. That's my experience as well.
You know, for, for I, I got intoenergy work, I think like 2008
or 9 when I first discovered like what, what is this stuff?
And, you know, and what I've learned most since then is that
energy work is much better experienced than explained.
And men tend to be more logical.And we decide that it's nonsense
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or too woo woo. And just, yeah, you got to be
willing to open up a little bit.Try it.
You know, I always joke that, you know, there's a misery back
guarantee if if we do something together and you don't like it,
you can go back to being miserable.
That's fine, right? But it actually, if you if you
did all the work that you've done and then tried to be
miserable about it, I think it would, it wouldn't be that easy
actually. It'd be a challenge, but.
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When I, when I, when I met you, when I was on the show the first
time that I met you and I learned about the work that
you're doing, I was my, my soul.I was, I was like, I, I, I need
like I have to this is there's something here I got to, I have
to explore. I was, I was almost drawn to
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you. I told you that.
And I was waiting. I was waiting after for you to
circle back around to me and reach back out to me and you're
like, Oh, you, you should have sent me a message.
And I was like, no, I, I trustedwhat God of the universe had in
store. I, I appreciate you sharing all
of your experiences doing this because this is a very personal,
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private thing. I think is really being a great
service to people because all the work we're talking about, it
can only be done in person. And it's, it's, it's not, it's
not me. This is from the modern mystery
school. There are practitioners all
around the world. So if anybody is really
intrigued and wants to know more, I, I'm glad to play
matchmaker and find someone closer to you.
Or, or you can come, we can stopat Mount Wachusett.
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You could come see me in Massachusetts.
And so either way is fine. But I just want to clarify that
for people. And you know, one more thing I
want to ask you, Nick, with everything you've experienced
now with being of so much service and sharing of yourself,
if you could go back and whispersomething in the ear of your 14
year old self just before that run down the mountain, what
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might that be? Such a good question.
I don't think I've got this question before.
I would say I don't even I, I don't even know as if I would, I
would say like, 'cause you're not saying I could, I could
alter. OK.
I would say that it's going to be OK.
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It's going to be OK. Has it in fact been more than
OK? Yeah, absolutely.
OK. I was going to, I was going to
continue well after I said that,but then I was like, I don't
think anything else is needed. I was, I was going, I was going
to say like not you're about to go through something, but slow
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down. Not then in that moment, 'cause
I was like high octane ready to go, but just for later, like for
the accident and like the life after the accident like that.
That's kind of how I interpretedthat question.
So I would say just slow down, make sure you're doing
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everything properly and you'll get there.
Just keep going. Nick, is there?
Is there one thing top of mind that you wish more men knew?
I think what's out there ain't communicated with us to men,
that is since childhood is it's not right for everyone.
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Everyone, everyone's different and that's completely OK.
I just think too many people will will grow up a certain way
and then think I have to be thatway and.
And Nick, what's the best way for people to connect with you?
OK, so a few things the while wewent over and you you referred
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to the previous show I was on where I went into depth on the
the step system and even that was only a 10,000 foot view.
However, if my anything about mystory and the step system really
like piqued your interest and you felt drawn to it, check out
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Nick prefontaine.com forward slash step and you're going to
be able to download the entire step system for free, which
teaches you all about support, trust, energy and persistence.
Nick, it's been a pleasure seeing you in person, knowing
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you over the four months of working together, checking in
via emails and calls. And yeah, I've, I'm going to say
this. I wish I could take a picture of
what I see working on people in my head and what's presented
because like you, you were already a shining example of a
man being of service, of someonethat took their experience, made
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the best out of it, and continueto make the even better and
better out of it. And as you said, there's just, I
could tell that there was more And I, I don't know what the
more is going to be, but it's going to show itself to you
because you keep stepping forward, you keep listening to
yourself, you keep honoring yourdiscernment.
So I'm excited, I'm still excited for you.
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I'm excited to see what, what's next.
I'm excited to see the, you know, the version of Nick 20
years from now and, and just allof it.
So again, thanks so much for sharing your your experience
that you share often your your life journey and also sharing
your really private experience that you had working with me.
You're very welcome. And I think because I share my,
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like you said, it's, I'm always on, it's, it's, it's all of me.
And that's what I'm sharing. That may be why I'm so open and
vulnerable to share my very private experience working with
you one-on-one is because this is what I'm doing.
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I'm I'm sharing my experience with the world, be it what's
happening now or what happened 20 years ago.
I think more people need to know.
Thanks for joining us today. Please visit realmanfield.org
and see the blog post for this episode where she'll have all
the various links and resources discussed.
If you are intrigued about life activation, full spirit
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activation, or soul retrieval, please reach out to me.
Visit theandygrant.com. And as I said in the show, all
of this work can only be done inperson.
And if you aren't near me, if you can't come to Massachusetts
and are interested, I will work with you to find someone where
you live that can offer these vet services to help your growth
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and life. That's how important this work
is. I don't care who you do it with,
I just want you to do it. Until next time, be good to
yourself.
I don't see how you can call your goggles moving to just the
right place at exactly the righttime and the synchronicity of
the one paramedic who's trained and what you needed to survive.
I mean, I would call those miracles.
Does that resonate for you? Oh, absolutely, 100%.
Things do happen for reason. That's synchronicity, those
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miracles, however you want to describe it.
Hello and welcome to Real Men Field.
I'm your host, author, coach andhealer, Andy Grant.
You can visit the and your grant.com to see how I might be
of service to you. We have conversations that most
men are not having, but that allmen and the women who love them
can benefit from. My returning guest today is Nick
Prefontaine. Nick is a three times best
selling author and a top motivational speaker.
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At age 14, Nick suffered a life threatening snowboarding
accident and his parents were told that he would probably
never walk, talk or eat again onhis own.
Today, Nick shares about his experiences working with me,
including the changes and improvements he noticed in his
life and business following a life activation.
We also explore the resistance that many men have to energy
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work and the side effect of happiness when you are your
authentic self. Let's do it.
Welcome back to Real Men Feel Nick.
Hey, happy to be here, Andy. I'm I'm looking forward to that.
So when we first spoke, you werethis is your second appearance
on Real Men Field. We first spoke it was episode
326 came out last November. And in that we really you shared
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your journey through trauma and the step system.
And I'll include a link to that episode and the show notes for
this one. But for a super quick summary,
Nick shared his amazing story ofsurviving a life threatening
snowboarding accident at age 14 and overcoming massive odds to
to simply to walk, talk, and eatagain.
And we discussed his step system, support, trust, energy,
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and persistence that he used to recover and now teaches others
to navigate trauma and life challenges.
Did it feel like I nailed that? Yeah, yeah, you did.
And I can give, AI can give likea 10,000 foot view as well to
really catch the listeners up towhere we are and like our work
together. And I'm, I'm just like, I'm
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thoroughly enthused about it. I'm excited about it after
working together with you. So yeah, it all all goes back to
a fateful day when I was at ski club with my friends in 8th
grade. Going up the chair left, we
noticed that people were wiping out everywhere.
However, that didn't slow us down.
So we were ready to go. Got to the top, buckled into my
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snowboard, took a breath of thatcrisp winter air and confidently
charged towards the biggest jumpof the train park with all my
speed and going up to it, I caught the edge of my snowboard
on the snow going up the jump and that kind of threw me off
balance. So I was told that I went off
the jump off balance and I laterlearned that I landed on my head
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and I wasn't wearing a helmet and the only protection that my
head had was a pair of goggles. And I learned that.
I later learned that not only did they brace my impact as I
continue to roll down the mountain and continue to hit my
head, my goggles mysteriously moved to cushion each blow.
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And then the hospital wanted to send a helicopter to the
mountain to rush me to the hospital.
They couldn't because it was toowindy handy, so they had to send
in an ambulance and out of the team of paramedics there was
only one who could intubate right in the spot and I needed
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that to be able to breathe. And lucky for me, he was one of
the paramedics that showed up tothe mountain that day.
So those two things that were really, I wouldn't be yesterday
if those two things didn't happen.
And then the third was at the hospital.
I was out. I was, I was in a coma, unable
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to communicate with anyone in the intensive care unit.
And each time the doctors would,the only people who were allowed
in my room was my parents. And each time the doctors would
come in to share the not so positive news.
Not so positive news. As I'm sure you or anyone
listening knows, when you have an acute injury or traumatic
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experience, they can't paint a rosy picture.
So the doctors would come in to share that right in front of me.
And my mom stopped them and she said no, no, not in front of him
because she understood that eventhough I was in a coma, I was
still taking in information. So she made the doctor step
outside the room. And then once they were there,
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that's when the doctor said thatI was in a coma.
I weren't sure how long I was going to be in a coma.
And even if I came out, there was a good chance that I
wouldn't be able to walk, talk or eat on my own ever again.
And this is the third thing thatI that I was talking about
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because none of that got throughto my mind.
It just allowed me to treat it like any other situation.
And what happened is I was in the coma for three weeks.
I really don't remember a month because it was a partially
induced coma. And then after a month, I was
transported to a rehab hospital.And that's where I began my
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journey of having to learn how to walk, talk and eat again.
And it was unknowingly at that point that I started to use a
system to not only make a full recovery, but run out of the
hospital. And that's the step system.
That's what you were referring to.
It stands for support, trust, energy and persistence.
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And yeah, I'm excited to be here.
So I I just wanted to fill in any gaps there for for anyone
that was wondering scratching it, what the heck are they
talking about? I appreciate that.
I don't know if I asked you thisbefore, but so you were in your
early teens and you, you mentioned not wearing a helmet
on on the mountain that day. Should you have?
Were you supposed to? Were you just kind of cocky,
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didn't care? Did you feel invincible?
Like what? Why weren't you fully protected?
So all those questions, yes, a combinational, all those.
So I I was cocky, I was, I was confident that, you know, I knew
what I was doing. However, when I went to that
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mountain, that particular mountain, it was Wachusett
Mountain, I would always wear a helmet.
And then when I went to any other bigger mountain up north,
I would always wear a helmet. So I would never wear that to
the regular hill that was in thetown that which I would go to
every day. I would never wear it then.
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But then whenever I went to these bigger mountains, I would
always wear it. And that day I had forgotten
anything. Anything would happen.
I just, you know, be careful andnothing ever did happen.
So, and you know, some somethingdid happen.
I don't see how you can call your goggles moving to just the
right place at exactly the righttime and the synchronicity of
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the one paramedic who's trained and what you needed to survive.
I mean, I would call those miracles.
Does that resonate for you? Oh, absolutely, 100%.
Yeah, definitely. Things do happen for reason.
That's synchronicity, those miracles, however you want to
describe it. Yeah.
And then if you you kind of move, if you kind of move beyond
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that. So I was in inpatient rehab for
a little under two months. And then I realized my goal of
running out of the hospital. And after that, it wasn't like,
all right, I'm all set. I can go back to my life.
There was, you know, there was still a lot of work to be done
after that. And I had to continue to go to
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outpatient therapy for another six months along with being
tutored all summer long in orderto continue on the high school
with the rest of my classmates. I ended up, I graduated high
school, found my way into real estate, got my real estate
license, was working with buyersand sellers sales.
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And then in 2014, I started to help my dad on the investor side
with the marketing of his properties that he was getting
non conventionally. So without using any of our bank
financing or cash or big investor payments or anything
that more if they knew me not renewing my real estate license
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in January of 2016, joining him full time.
And then coming up with a process that we have to bring
all these buyers to, to make sure that they're successful
when they get to the end of their agreement and they're
going to be able to get their own loan.
That that's what I've really been doing.
And we've been holding events since 2016 where I've always had
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the opportunity and I've shared this with you privately.
I think I've always had the opportunity to tell my story
from stage to our with events once or twice a year.
So ever since I got out of high school, I've I've always had
this voice in the back of my head that's always been telling
me, yeah, great, Nick, but what you really need to be doing is
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telling your story from stage and helping trauma survivors or
life challenge survivors throughwhatever they're going through
so that they're able to thrive with the rest of their lives.
So by telling my story once or twice a year in our events, I
always thought it was scratchingthat itch.
And then it was in 2019 that someone heard me speak at one of
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our events, the last one before COVID believe it or not.
And she, she approached me and she said I love, I love your
story. I'm not looking to steal you
from your dad. However, if you're ever looking
to fine tune your message and bring it to another level, I can
introduce you 2 of your coaches and mentors that have helped me
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get started. Well, I wasn't ready yet.
However, I always hung on her card, her information, and then
that voice just kept growing, getting louder and louder.
In May of 2021, I finally reached out to her and I said
OK, I'm ready, what should I do?She introduced me to her mentor
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who became my mentor, Tricia Brooke.
And from my first call with her,there's been no voice in the
back of my head. So what that's evidence to me of
is that I'm doing exactly what Iwas put in this earth to do.
So I had a call with her. I told her my goals, what I was
looking to do and I said, do youthink that's possible?
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She said absolutely. I said, art, what do you think I
should do? She said the speaker Salon, you
commute to New York City for sixweeks in a row and then on the
6th week you get to work on stage at the Triad Theatre in
New York City. And then for five weeks.
And then on the 6th week you getto perform for influencers, 10X
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organizers, event, other event organizers and planners,
podcasts, hosts, everything likethat that are looking for
speakers to book on their, on their platforms, on their on
their show, their stages. So I said yes, she said OK,
that's 25,000. So I did that.
And then halfway through the speaker salon, she pitched the
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idea of what it would look like to work with her one-on-one and
she said she specializes in helping speakers build out their
speaker platform. I didn't even know what that
was, however, I just knew I wanted more of her and what we
what we were building. So I said yes.
And as a result of that, now working with her one-on-one, she
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helped me launch my company, Common Goal.
And now I know what build out a speaker platform means because
now I'm giving keynote talks 50 and 60 minutes long plus 50 and
60 minute plus talks to brain injury associations, other
organizations that support individuals that are going
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through trauma. To me.
If you would have told me that prior to Trisha, like back in
2019 that I would be doing that,I would have told you that you
weren't, you weren't sync really.
That led me to, I've been doing a lot of podcast guessing and
that led me to be on your show last year.
That led to us working together one-on-one for four different, I
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believe Andy, it was 4 differentsessions.
And I am really the word, the word.
I just feels like so much more dialed in after our word
together. And if you want to talk a little
bit about that and like what what that kind of looks like
because everyone is different. Everyone wonder what they need
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and what their soul needs is is different.
Just to help people figure this out, the Mount Wachusett where
you had your accident at age 14 is 5 minutes from my house where
I live now. And we, we speaking after the
show and I discovered that you, you came to Massachusetts and
you, you, you saw someone from you'd been doing energy work for
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a while. So I told you about what, what I
had. And we, we work together for
four months. We did a session each month.
The first one was called the life activation.
And all four are from the modernmystery School, which I've been
an initiate and in here with since 2016.
They can only be done in person.The life activation starts with
sort of clearing old energy out of the way and then we literally
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put more light into your physical body.
And it's meant to deepen your connection to your divine
blueprint to have even more clarity over your, your mission,
your purpose, bring you that dialed in sense that that you
already said. So that was the big thing.
And that that having that opens up the opportunity for for more
healings, more refinements, morespecialties.
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You talk about being dialed in. So what else have you noticed
from the life activation in terms of your your business and
perhaps your personal relationships?
Like what? What else has stood out for you?
Well, I think the the word and, and I, I want to, I want to say
this, that I, I'm learning to trust myself, my feelings, my
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intuitions, more so than prior to that.
I think the word is discernment.The, The thing is, I, I say I'm
learning to trust myself is I had, I actually talked with an,
a coach of mine who's I'm, I'm not really working with, but
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just a, like a fellow, A fellow person speaker who I've kept in
touch with over the years. And I don't know if I share this
with you. And it was probably in early
February. I have just done some networking
and reached out to him and the feedback that he gave me, it
just didn't, I knew it wasn't for me.
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Like I discerned myself like, like, thank you.
I, you know, I'm kind of going, I'm kind of going this way, this
path and the discernment that would have, I think prior to my
work with you, Andy, that would have like set me on this path
and like threw me into a tizzy like, Oh, I have to be doing
this now. It's just, but now I know like
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the, the discernment that I feelis is really terrific because I
mean, yeah, I'm just very, I'm very happy.
Yeah, I I love how happiness is this amazing side effect from
strengthening your discernment, knowing what, what things would
serve you and what things just don't connect and and trusting
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that it's a challenge for many people.
It was a challenge for me for a long time that I put more stock
in the opinions of others than Idid in my my own inner self.
Does that make sense? Yeah.
Yeah. So what from what you're sure
with me? I I'm, I'm hearing that, yeah.
It doesn't matter what someone else says anymore.
Like, yeah, I know this helps meor I know it doesn't.
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Thanks for your time. Move on.
Or yes, I get a huge yes out of myself for this and let.
Let's do that thing. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So I think you said notice, have
I noticed the changes and like, like what has happened since
then? I have talked about the podcast
guesting. When I first met you, I was
doing four or five interviews a month.
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I've now double my, my guesting to 10 interviews a month.
I, I just couldn't be happier because it's, it's continuing,
continuing to give me the platform to be able to share my
message and tell my story and tohelp more people.
Awesome. And one of the things we did, we
did 2 sessions of something called soul retrieval.
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And this is a a really ancient shamanic exercise.
Anyone that has experienced trauma and especially anyone
that's had any sort of near death experience a coma, a
portion of our soul can splinteroff and, and flee and hide and
just out of out of fear, out of shock.
And whenever I meet someone that's had an experience like
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you have, I, I bring this up because that's who I see the
biggest impact. I mean, I think everybody would
benefit from it. But if you've had a, a literal
shock to your system and, and things are splintered off.
And I know we did 2 sessions. My recollection is the second
one was really hit home and So what what were your impressions
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of of that that the soul retrieval?
I was it was I don't, I don't know if you remember this, but I
said after I did it the first time, I didn't, I didn't
necessarily say I didn't verbalize it to you, but I was
like, I was like kind of feelinglike within myself, like in
angst within myself, if that makes sense.
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Like, no, I'm not really my favorite all the like all the
sessions and everything. And I mentioned that the next
time I came back the next month that I came back and I mentioned
that. And I think you said, well, if
you're use the word afraid, like, hey, it could be your,
like you're, you're afraid to dothat.
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And I, I took that as like a, a challenge.
I, I was like, oh, I'm not, I'm not afraid.
What do you mean afraid? And so I, I was like, all right,
I'm, I'm going to see this through.
I've already gone this far. I've already gone halfway or
1/4. I'm not going to like abandon it
now. Like I going to see this through
the what came out as far as thatand some of the insights that
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you share with me. I, I don't think I've ever
shared this the waiting room, like the waiting room at the
Antezer care unit. None of my friends could come
see me in the room at the the hospital room at the in the ICU.
However, they were always relegated to the waiting room.
And I didn't even have that conversation with you.
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And you said you were almost, itwas almost like you were picking
up pieces of me that were on thechairs in a rectangular,
circular or square room that wasthe waiting room.
And like picking them up and then putting them back like into
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me. And I was, I couldn't believe
that that you said that I, I was, I was blown away by that.
So I was so happy I followed theprocess through because I think
with Howard, I would have, I would have just stopped and
like, no, that maybe that's not for me or whatever and I would
have missed out on the all the benefits that I'm getting as a
result. Yeah, So often soul retrieval is
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a multiple session sort of thing.
It, it ends when you, your body,your soul says that's enough for
this time. And during the first one, I
could tell we're working on things, but we weren't hitting
the accident and we had to like lay some groundwork before those
pieces would would be willing toreturn.
And it's funny, I I I would not have remembered that I said that
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you were afraid of it. I would I in my mind, I was
like, oh, no, you you have resistance.
I'd be gentle. But so yeah, if if, if saying
you were afraid is what fired upyour masculinity to say no, I'm
not Andy, I was telling you like, great, I'm glad to hear
that. So for a soul retrieval that the
client, you, you just you just lay down.
And I don't know if you kind of you could drifting out of sleep.
There wasly wasn't anything you need to do.
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And I do some work and it's usually a very, very visual
experience for me, but I, I don't, it's not like a play by
play. So once we were done, we kind of
talked about what did you feel and notice?
And I told you what I felt the notice.
What, what I remember the most is that I got a clear message
that we're just going to focus on this number of months to be
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retrieving things back. And then we spoke after that was
the exact length of your stay inthe hospital.
Again, I, I knew you're, I knew about your accident.
I didn't know details and the visuals.
I had to gather the missing pieces of you.
There was a, a snow rake going down a mountain getting all the
pieces. And then we, I, then I was in an
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ambulance, then I was in the ER.And then now you mentioned I was
in a waiting room and just getting all of these pieces from
all these different people is what it felt like.
Like friends of yours carried the the bits of your soul that
scattered. And it was an amazing experience
of, of love and connected to this.
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I've, I remember being on the verge of tears during the
session for you. I'm like, I could not pull it
together. I like, I can't get lost in my
experience. I'm going to be serving Nick.
Yeah. So that was again, from my end.
It was the most powerful soul retrieval I've been honored to
be part of. That side just you bringing up
these like these memories is like is the about saying you
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were you were like raking the mountain Because if you think of
it from the point of my accidentuntil early March, I don't have
any memory of that because it was it was a coma, partially
induced coma. So even though I have my eyes
open and they said I came out ofmy coma, I didn't know.
So for you to say all those little things like to collect
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pieces of me from, from the mountain, from what you Samoan,
from the ambulance, like in the ambulance and then into the
waiting room where all my friends were, that that was just
that really hit home with me. And I was so happy I followed
this process through with you. A a common fear is that, well,
if, if I know I live through something horrific, like if I
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welcome that back, am I going torelive it?
Am I going to experience it? Right.
But everything that returns to you is it's it's clean of any
trauma. It it's, it's the highest
aspects of yourself that again, just got frightened and and
splintered away for their own survival.
So have you noticed anything since that session?
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Like the like, I don't know, I don't, I don't know how like do
you feel that you're more together?
Do you feel full? Like what?
What? What's it been like since that
for you? Yeah, so I used to, I used to
feel like I'll just, I'll use this example like on the
weekends, for example, like going outgoing to have dinner,
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like going, going out and going to have dinner at a bar or
something like that. I used to feel like, OK, I, I
have to be doing that. But now I'm like, if I don't
want any plans, I'm totally OK just staying at home with my dog
hanging up, hanging on the couch.
I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm like, I'm OK doing that.
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So it's AI think a calm and likea knowing within me that that
I'm like, I'm I'm going to like,I'm set to to have these
experiences in my life, whether I do one thing or the other.
So it's kind of a it's a knowingand kind of like AI don't know.
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It's, it's really it's really hard to put into words.
I'm, I'm, I'm just so happy thatwe did it though, because now I
feel like I have more, even moreto share with the world than I
had before. So with that sense, what are you
desiring, right? What's what's your deepest
desire for how to share more of yourself with the world?
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How, what possible ways does that show up?
It might just is it strengthening what you're
already doing, or have there been glimmers of new ideas that
you haven't explored yet? So I think prior to doing all of
these, doing all these sessions with you, like the life
activation, the soul retrieval, everything like that, I, I just
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had in my mind success or not not success, but where I wanted
to get to with following my following this calling and
following my speaking is OK. I have to be getting stages and
every year I've been getting more and more stages to be able
to tell my story at different, different people's events and
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everything, organizations, events and everything like that.
Now I realize and, and I've I'vealready shared that I've doubled
the number of interviews guest, like podcast guest thing.
I doubled that. Now I realize it's so much more
than that. It's not just stages.
It's really getting my message out there to more and more
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people. And I think podcasting is
allowing me to do that. It's allowing me to get my
message out there to more and more people.
Yeah, that that's kind of changed my definite my
definition of oh, OK, I have to be doing it like events.
That's kind of change, if that makes sense.
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Yeah. So that it's, there's more, it's
more adjustable. Your mission.
There's a container, but it's it's pliable.
Yeah, I think what what I was locked in new before, which is
to say that it has to be different events with hundreds
and hundreds, if not thousands of people is to say that was
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like an ego. That was an ego thing.
I think I I'm open and receptiveto having the opportunities and
those will come. I understand that because what I
have to share is powerful and the step system support, trust,
energy and persistence is powerful.
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And it's not just that because doing podcast guesting and now I
I really everything I do with it's not just one thing like
just speaking or just podcast guesting.
It's everything that I'm doing. I'm, I'm meeting people in in
every different form and fashionof my life.
That really feels more right, ifthat makes sense, Whereas I was
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locked into OK, I got to be get.I have to be getting stages and
speaking and and telling my story on the stage, but doing
this is exactly that. And that will come.
I understand that. And again, I'm open and
receptive to those opportunitiescoming.
I'm not, I'm not shunning that. However, right now this is what
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is giving me fulfillment, telling my story and being able
to spend time with like you, like I'm doing here today to
tell my story. Yeah, I'm having a flashback.
I think it was during the life activation.
And I don't know if I ever sharethis with you, but the notion
that everybody you meet, everybody you talk to, be it at
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a convenience store, be it, you know, waiting in line for it to
get a gas pump, every communication you have with
someone, it is your keynote address.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're you're you're you're
always on because you're you're generally being you.
So it's not just something you save.
Oh, here comes Nick for stage. No, it's, it's who you are.
It's. Who I am, yes, it.
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It's who I am. And when you say I'm always on,
it's not that I have to pretend to be anyone else, because this
is who I am. So you, you, you mentioned when,
when I said that, oh, you're, you might be afraid of this next
session and that kind of riled you up and got you ready to go.
What would you say to men, 'cause I do, I still, I serve a
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lot more women come to me for these healings than men.
So what would you say to skeptical men now that you've
had the experience and you experienced your own skepticism
as well? Great question.
I didn't I, I didn't have an agenda just because I knew we'd
just because we were together and I, I knew we would we would
be able to get to and share whatwas the most important thing.
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What would I share to people, men specifically having
resistance? I would say just just give it a
chance. What do you have to lose?
Because for me it was, I went into it working with you and in
the first session and the secondsession I was like, I was like,
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all right, this is kind of a cool thing.
Like this is kind of a fun thing, but then after the second
session, I was like, and I there's something here, there's
something here. I have to, I have to continue to
explore this with them because there, there's really something
here that I'm starting to tap into.
And I think without giving myself the opportunity to do
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that, all would be for naughty, I guess you could say.
So if anyone's skeptical out there about working with you and
doing like these life activations, soul activations,
soul retrieval, I would say so just give it a chance.
Just give it a chance and see where it goes.
And once you're in it, it's hardto walk away from to say like,
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Oh no, I'm all set with this. I, I don't want to improve my
life. I don't want to continue to
evolve an upward spiral. I feel that they call those, but
I, I don't want that. I want to stay stuck where I am
in fear and lack and limitation.So I'd say just give it a chance
and be open to it. Yeah, very true, very, very
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accurate is my. That's my experience as well.
You know, for, for I, I got intoenergy work, I think like 2008
or 9 when I first discovered like what, what is this stuff?
And, you know, and what I've learned most since then is that
energy work is much better experienced than explained.
And men tend to be more logical.And we decide that it's nonsense
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or too woo woo. And just, yeah, you got to be
willing to open up a little bit.Try it.
You know, I always joke that, you know, there's a misery back
guarantee if if we do something together and you don't like it,
you can go back to being miserable.
That's fine, right? But it actually, if you if you
did all the work that you've done and then tried to be
miserable about it, I think it would, it wouldn't be that easy
actually. It'd be a challenge, but.
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When I, when I, when I met you, when I was on the show the first
time that I met you and I learned about the work that
you're doing, I was my, my soul.I was, I was like, I, I, I need
like I have to this is there's something here I got to, I have
to explore. I was, I was almost drawn to
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you. I told you that.
And I was waiting. I was waiting after for you to
circle back around to me and reach back out to me and you're
like, Oh, you, you should have sent me a message.
And I was like, no, I, I trustedwhat God of the universe had in
store. I, I appreciate you sharing all
of your experiences doing this because this is a very personal,
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private thing. I think is really being a great
service to people because all the work we're talking about, it
can only be done in person. And it's, it's, it's not, it's
not me. This is from the modern mystery
school. There are practitioners all
around the world. So if anybody is really
intrigued and wants to know more, I, I'm glad to play
matchmaker and find someone closer to you.
Or, or you can come, we can stopat Mount Wachusett.
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You could come see me in Massachusetts.
And so either way is fine. But I just want to clarify that
for people. And you know, one more thing I
want to ask you, Nick, with everything you've experienced
now with being of so much service and sharing of yourself,
if you could go back and whispersomething in the ear of your 14
year old self just before that run down the mountain, what
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might that be? Such a good question.
I don't think I've got this question before.
I would say I don't even I, I don't even know as if I would, I
would say like, 'cause you're not saying I could, I could
alter. OK.
I would say that it's going to be OK.
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It's going to be OK. Has it in fact been more than
OK? Yeah, absolutely.
OK. I was going to, I was going to
continue well after I said that,but then I was like, I don't
think anything else is needed. I was, I was going, I was going
to say like not you're about to go through something, but slow
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down. Not then in that moment, 'cause
I was like high octane ready to go, but just for later, like for
the accident and like the life after the accident like that.
That's kind of how I interpretedthat question.
So I would say just slow down, make sure you're doing
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everything properly and you'll get there.
Just keep going. Nick, is there?
Is there one thing top of mind that you wish more men knew?
I think what's out there ain't communicated with us to men,
that is since childhood is it's not right for everyone.
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Everyone, everyone's different and that's completely OK.
I just think too many people will will grow up a certain way
and then think I have to be thatway and.
And Nick, what's the best way for people to connect with you?
OK, so a few things the while wewent over and you you referred
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to the previous show I was on where I went into depth on the
the step system and even that was only a 10,000 foot view.
However, if my anything about mystory and the step system really
like piqued your interest and you felt drawn to it, check out
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Nick prefontaine.com forward slash step and you're going to
be able to download the entire step system for free, which
teaches you all about support, trust, energy and persistence.
Nick, it's been a pleasure seeing you in person, knowing
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you over the four months of working together, checking in
via emails and calls. And yeah, I've, I'm going to say
this. I wish I could take a picture of
what I see working on people in my head and what's presented
because like you, you were already a shining example of a
man being of service, of someonethat took their experience, made
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the best out of it, and continueto make the even better and
better out of it. And as you said, there's just, I
could tell that there was more And I, I don't know what the
more is going to be, but it's going to show itself to you
because you keep stepping forward, you keep listening to
yourself, you keep honoring yourdiscernment.
So I'm excited, I'm still excited for you.
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I'm excited to see what, what's next.
I'm excited to see the, you know, the version of Nick 20
years from now and, and just allof it.
So again, thanks so much for sharing your your experience
that you share often your your life journey and also sharing
your really private experience that you had working with me.
You're very welcome. And I think because I share my,
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like you said, it's, I'm always on, it's, it's, it's all of me.
And that's what I'm sharing. That may be why I'm so open and
vulnerable to share my very private experience working with
you one-on-one is because this is what I'm doing.
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I'm I'm sharing my experience with the world, be it what's
happening now or what happened 20 years ago.
I think more people need to know.
Thanks for joining us today. Please visit realmanfield.org
and see the blog post for this episode where she'll have all
the various links and resources discussed.
If you are intrigued about life activation, full spirit
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activation, or soul retrieval, please reach out to me.
Visit theandygrant.com. And as I said in the show, all
of this work can only be done inperson.
And if you aren't near me, if you can't come to Massachusetts
and are interested, I will work with you to find someone where
you live that can offer these vet services to help your growth
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and life. That's how important this work
is. I don't care who you do it with,
I just want you to do it. Until next time, be good to
yourself.
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