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April 24, 2024 73 mins

On this awesome episode, we're joined by American author and counter terrorism expert Malcolm Nance and former 2020 Republican presidential candidate Joe Walsh.

Malcolm Nance is a military analyst, modern American hero, and author of They Want to Kill Americans: The Militias, Terrorists, and Deranged Ideology of the Trump Insurgency, which is an absolute must-read about the killer instincts of the MAGA community. 

Malcolm tells us how QAnon has infiltrated every aspect of the Republican party just as he predicted in his book, though it happened even faster than he had originally imagined. “A couple of years ago, you could not walk into a Republican rally with a QAnon t-shirt,” Malcolm told us. “Now they're selling it with Trump stuff. And he's got them believing.”

Malcolm expertly dismantles the terribly false “Genocide Joe” nickname and explains why he thinks the moniker has been able to gain such steam, even among Trump supporters who could not care less about the Palestinian people. 

“I think what we're seeing is the dragon unchained,” Malcolm said. “You have misinformation, disinformation, conspiracy theories, deliberate manipulation of facts into conspiracy theories with the flamethrower breath of TikTok.”

We were also joined by former tea party Republican Congressman Joe Walsh, who has become one of Donald Trump’s fiercest critics. 

He told us that there were always two sides to the Tea Party - one was worried about government debt. “But there was this uglier, kind of more nationalist, culture warrior side,” Joe told us. “Then along came Trump and he tapped into that uglier side, and away they went.”

Joe explains that Mike Pence finally gained the courage to say he wouldn’t support Trump, only after he realized he didn’t have a future in the GOP. But that’s not enough. Just like Mitt Romney and all of the other Republicans calling Trump unfit, they all refuse to support Biden. Because they know it would be a blowtorch to their careers.

Walsh also explained what kind of society the MAGA voter actually wants, and breaks down the motives behind the modern GOP’s politics, including some insight into why some formerly common-sense Republicans have gone full on MAGA.

The team picked Joe’s brain on the current politics of immigration, Joe dissects MAGA’s insane border policy, and he tells us why Congress has failed to do anything about it to this point. 

We thought this was a fantastic episode. Let us know if you agree in the comments! 

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