February 16, 2024 • 21 mins
In Episode 49, Michael and Preston revisit how passion enables reclaiming freedom; reframing the challenging circumstances in the present as fuel for the burning desire that we can cultivate to drive us toward a compelling future.
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Michael (00:00):
Dude, how's it going?
Preston (00:01):
It's good, man.
It is what the heck?
Oh, there we go.
Hold on one second.
Well, welcome to whateverepisode 49 there, Michael.
Yes, sir.
Episode 49.
Welcome to
Michael (00:16):
the Uncanny
Preston (00:16):
Man podcast.
Tonight you got me, PrestonRadomski, Southern Canuck and
Michael Z Mastermind.
Is that what we're calling itthese days?
The
Michael (00:26):
the man who started it all.
Oh, it's kind of like, yeah,Dimash to Big Lebowski, you
know, he's an artist.
He passed mind.
I really, it's like, oh,
Preston (00:37):
we
Michael (00:38):
believe in nothing.
Yeah.
Preston (00:40):
Michael, we are talking about passion tonight.
Is that the, topic du jour forus to,
Michael (00:49):
Yeah, we're on reclaiming freedom and thinking
about.
What are some of the keys tothat and what have I've been
reading lately that has beeninspiring me in the arena of
passion and just being focusedon things that you truly are
passionate about and howimportant that is in the context
of leadership and achieving ourgoals.
(01:10):
And so just wanted to touch alittle bit about that and.
I guess share a couple ofdifferent, there's a few
different passages, things thatI've been reading lately that
I'm hoping to share in this,which we haven't done as much in
recent episodes.
So hopefully I won't overdo it,but there's a couple of short
little excerpts that I want toread and chat through with you,
Preston, and get your thoughtson them.
(01:31):
But I mentioned some of it inpolo over the past week or so.
Yeah, we can dive right in ifyou want.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
So last year we did, somereadings from John Maxwell.
And so I'm going to share one ofthose Maxwell's, February 3rd
reading ratchet up your passion.
Starts off with this question.
What makes it possible forpeople who might seem ordinary
(01:53):
to achieve great things?
The answer is passion.
Nothing can take the place ofpassion in a leader's life.
Take a look at four truths aboutpassion and what it can do for
you as a leader.
One.
Passion is the first step toachievement.
Your desire determines yourdestiny.
Anyone who lives beyond anordinary life has great desire.
It's true in any field.
Weak desire brings weak results,just as a small fire creates
(02:14):
little heat.
The stronger your fire, thegreater the desire, and the
greater the potential.
Number two, passion increasesyour willpower.
There's no substitute forpassion.
It is fuel for the will.
If you want anything badlyenough, you can find the
willpower to achieve it.
The only way to have that kindof desire is to develop passion.
Three, passion changes you.
If you follow your passioninstead of others perceptions,
(02:35):
you can't help become a morededicated, productive person.
That increases your ability toimpact others.
In the end, your passion willhave more influence than your
personality.
Four, passion makes theimpossible possible.
Human beings are so made thatwhenever anything fires this
hole, impossibilities vanish.
A fire in the heart liftseverything in your life.
That's why passionate leadersare so effective.
(02:57):
A leader with great passion andfew skills always outperforms a
leader with great skills and nopassion.
And that is the, The reading,and it, I think just triggered a
bunch of really good thoughtsaround, this year for me and how
to make sure that I'm focusingin on my passions, in parallel
(03:18):
to some of the things that I'mless passionate about, in order
to get through it.
So I wondered if it was similarfor you, Preston, where, you're
doing the music stuff and, wewant that to be the main thing.
Since you're passionate, you'rereal passionate about it.
And then, you also are in thestill same boat as me where it's
(03:40):
we're grinding along still, itfeels like in our, our day to
day jobs, the sort of moneymaking, put the bread on the
table sort of situation.
So just curious how that little,reading from John Maxwell might
impact you.
Preston (03:55):
You read that to us about a week ago, and that
wasn't quite a week ago, and Ididn't remember it word for word
from the year before, but Iremember that one really hitting
me as far as just, as far asdiving in.
It's so weird.
Like I delivered to this Guytoday.
I was on a route that I just Ido all the routes in our station
(04:20):
and like on this morning I waslistening to this podcast that I
listened to called Nashville fornobodies Which is this these two
guys in Nashville that areNashville musicians Broadway
players and our buddy BradDawson was their guest this week
So this all morning, like I'mlistening to Brad tell his story
and, them talk about Broadwayand he brought me up a little
(04:42):
bit, I got this buddy press andit's like working to try and get
down here too And then a couplehours later, I delivered to this
business and the guy opens thedoor and I'm like, I know that
guy, I'm like, I know you, whatis your name?
And I don't remember his name,but he's a guy that ran sound at
this July 4th event I was atlast year with my family.
And he was like the drummer forhis brother's band, but also
(05:03):
running front of house sound forthem as well.
A family affair.
And him and I were talking andwhen he remembered me today,
he's Hey, aren't you supposedto, weren't you going to be
going down and working onBroadway?
And I'm just in my head, Yes,and I'm delivering FedEx
packages to you right now.
You're so right.
And I was thinking about thatpassion thing where I've got
three Broadway gigs lined up inthe next four weeks, a wedding
(05:27):
in May, and we booked like a 4thof July show.
There's some, there's definitelymuch more on the books.
And in the next couple of weeks,I need to just start going
downtown.
Like on a Friday and hanging outwith bands while they're playing
and I'm starting to meet peoplein this little gig finder group.
(05:49):
And it's just that element ofwhat are you doing?
Like sitting on the bench, dude.
Michael (05:55):
I had that feeling this afternoon.
I was.
Send in a text message to Jenand I was just like, this is not
what I want to be doing.
I want to be trading.
I have so much more passion forplaying music and trading.
And so I was just going to sharelike on the passion side, I
(06:15):
haven't talked as much about itlately, but to your points, like
you've been lining up thoseshows, which is Kudos to you
because it's, you're takingthose steps and you're starting
to build those relationshipsthat once you have that
foundation, it gives you theplatform to really take the
step.
And I think you could really,get radical and quit your job
(06:36):
and put yourself in this highpressure situation where you are
jumping off the cliff.
And you're, taking the leap.
But I think sometimes there hasto be some place to land and the
practicality of it.
You're like, okay, I've stillgot a I'm in the same boat where
she was like, look, I've gotbills to pay.
I know I could take a risk andstart trying to trade full time,
(07:01):
play music full time, but I feelvery strongly compelled that the
data doesn't suggest that Ishould do that yet, and same for
you, you're getting these shows,but the cadence of those shows,
it's oh, you still need to getto the point where.
There's the level of,opportunity, and, part of the
reason Scott's not on the show,I feel like the past week or two
(07:24):
is because he's been reallydriving his opportunity funnel
in a way that has, to yourpoint, filled his plate beyond
full and he's.
Been able to execute, on somepretty cool things that, are a
result of him creating thatopportunity, which is what you
and I are trying to do.
But, yeah, I had that same sortof just realization today when I
(07:48):
was, staring at my computerscreens in front of me and
seeing 140 emails and waslooking at this list of projects
that all had pretty firmdeliverables this week.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, I haveto.
I'm going to have to execute ona lot this week and I know I'll
be able to do it.
And, at the same time, I waslike, this isn't what I want to
(08:11):
be doing.
And it's going to extend intothe time that I want to be doing
other things like playing musicand trading.
And so I was just like thattrade off.
It either has to end relativelysoon, or I find a, another, path
forward, but, yeah, it just mademe want to talk a little bit
(08:34):
about why I'm, passionate abouttrading versus.
The nine to five world and a lotof it is also, I think just the
commonality that you and I havewith playing music and I want to
be able to play music all thetime, but not necessarily rely
on it for money.
And that's just like a personalphilosophy more than anything.
(08:54):
But I just don't want to have itfrom a time perspective.
That's ultimately what itbecomes.
There's a lot more until you getto a certain level, which very
few do.
I absolutely believe in whatyou're working towards.
I think it's a really cool and,like a really great idea with
what you're trying to do withbuild a legacy on Broadway.
(09:15):
But, that's one of my end goalstoo, just to be able to play
music.
Every week live music with goodmusicians, for me, I want to do
it in the context of at achurch, which of course doesn't
really pay that well.
So that's not really what it'sabout for me.
I just want to be able to playmusic and do worship and gospel
and, that kind of music that Ireally love.
That's the thing that I think, Ihaven't necessarily talked as
(09:38):
much about on the show, so Ijust wanted to share that with,
our audience and then thinkingabout.
What are the, what's the burningdesire that I have and it's to
be able to spend the time, doingthe things that I want with the
people that I want to do it withand spend more time with my
family and those types of likehigh level goals of loving my
(09:58):
family.
It means I have to be taking astep away from corporate
America, the empire of nothing,so to speak in the near future.
And I think it's the same waywith you and FedEx, right?
Preston (10:11):
Yeah.
Like my last stop of the daytoday is this.
Business out and I don't know ifit's like Tullahoma, Manchester.
And they're just a smallnightmare of a place to go to
because they have this like bulkpickup that's made like five
pallets of stuff to pick uptoday.
(10:31):
And they have, they do a ton ofinternational shipments, which
with international shipments,when you, it's like a driver,
when you pick them up, you haveto pull like commercial invoices
and these like thermal copies ofstuff.
That have to then get collectedand imaged to customs by a team
(10:53):
of people back at the station.
Now it's 2024, and all that canbe done digitally?
So none of that has to bepulled, but for whatever reason,
this company they ship thirdparty or something.
And there are sales rep can'tfucking figure that out for the
fuck knows.
And so this stop that ships outa ton of packages and then like,
(11:16):
they do this thing where it'sit'll be five boxes going to the
same place, but there'll be likea multiple piece shipment.
So there'll be like a master andfour.
Slaves, you call them like in asense, like other ones that are
tied to it.
And in order to scan them all,that way you're like only making
one address label for, you'renot having to like to make five.
(11:39):
Anyway, but in order to scanthem, they have to all be
scanned together.
But when they stack them for meon palettes, or for the regular
guy, I'm just the fill in guy,but they like, it's like they
intentionally mix them all up.
So you have to like, you have totake all these palettes.
It's just a fucking Shit show ofa nightmare and like my bot
we've tried talking to them andthey're just like basically they
(12:00):
tell us like we employ fuckingstupid people that cannot figure
this out and if it's always adifferent person and it's just
like at the end of the day it'sjust like god damn like what the
fuck are we doing here?
And it's like my whole day isfine and then I get to this
place and I just I'll breathe 10times I'm like just it's gonna
be good and then today it's fivemore pallets like it's usually
two pallets of stuff and todayit was five and I'm sitting
(12:21):
there after this day oflistening to my buddy on his
music podcast and then runninginto the sound guy and I'm like.
Yeah, but like we gotta fasttrack this a bit more because
you're gonna have a nervousbreakdown over nothing, cause
it's just like this.
Like I'm not making any, I meanI'm getting paid by the hour
quite well, but it's like I'mnot making any money off of
these boxes being picked up andlike I have no connection to
(12:43):
this company or to thisbusiness.
Yeah.
Michael (12:45):
And it doesn't scale and it's you're not passionate
about it.
Preston (12:48):
I'm questioning like am I really that passionate about
music and doing this?
If I'm not going to just do it,you know?
Michael (12:54):
Yeah.
And the other thing I think Iwanted to mention about passion
is that it isn't something thatis finite or at one fixed level.
That was the Napoleon Hill quotethat I was thinking about.
Really.
Was, there's one quality, whichone must possess to win.
And that is definite as apurpose, the knowledge of what
(13:17):
one wants and a burning desireto possess it like that burning
desire piece.
I feel like.
It might start as like a dream,but over time, the more that you
put energy into it, you'recultivating it becomes like a
stronger desire.
The more you have experienceslike you just had, today, or I
had today.
It, it helps you refocus yourenergy and it also in, in that
(13:41):
regard makes me think, and maybethis is different than most, but
I think like with my jobcurrently, I'm like I just want
to absolutely crush this.
So when I do leave, like I'm onthe, I'm on the ramp, right?
Like I'm moving up, I'm doinggood things.
I'm having a positive impact onthe organization and leaving it
in a light.
Much better place than I foundit, so to speak, you're just
(14:04):
saying, oh, why is this processthis way?
I think it's that kind of thingthat, we can use that as fuel
for burning, right?
Like just, yeah, it I thinkignites In many cases, it
reignites the passion and, itmakes me feel like more
definiteness of purpose to, toborrow from Napoleon Hill.
(14:25):
And, I was playing music beforethe podcast and I just riffing
on some stuff that, I needed toplay this weekend.
And every once in a while I haveto remind myself, which is, this
is a lot of times I'm trying toplay things like note for note,
exactly what the part is like100 percent to prescription
(14:47):
dynamically the same way.
The right phrasing and the rightfeel of it.
There's just so many littlenuances depending on the type of
music.
And, I was just like rememberingthis is why I'm so passionate
about music because I can hearwhat they're doing.
And then I can play somethingthat.
Is Close enough and feel, butit's impossible for me to screw
(15:09):
up because it's just me playingit and I can create within the
context of the structure thatthey've built, and I'm very
passionate about that, likecreating something.
Within a well defined system andstructure, and that I think
applies to a lot of other areasin my life and career.
So that's the stuff I wanted toget off my chest when it comes
(15:32):
to passion and just share thatit can be cultivated.
We can take things that seem tobe like a negative experience in
our life and use that as fuelto, to feed our passions and.
Drive us towards our goals asopposed to getting sucked into
the negative side of it andbeing like, okay, this is
brutal.
(15:52):
You're about to destroy theseboxes that, some moron shoved
all this paper into it's likepossible to sort through.
It's you're going to lose it.
And it's you could, or you couldbe like, yeah, this is.
Now motivation for me to workeven harder to book that next
gig, I'm going to use this asmotivation for, I don't want to
(16:12):
be doing this forever.
And because I'm just going
Preston (16:16):
to come back and be a bad karma thing.
And it's just that's not good.
I was thinking too, I thoughtabout this.
Recently, like the first gosh,probably five, six, seven years
when I was working at FedEx, Ididn't have podcasts or anything
(16:37):
like that because they weren'treally around.
And I think back to that time.
And I used to just.
Michael (16:45):
Listen to music or
Preston (16:46):
what?
No, I would just be in my headall day, like plotting out ways
to do stuff for at the time Iwasn't in a, I lived in
California.
I was like in an original band,but I've come up with song ideas
and like just all day, justplotting, things to do for shows
and flyers and would come homeand, go to band practice.
And we did all kinds of coolstuff back then.
(17:08):
We're like, I almost sometimesfeel like as much information
and as interesting as podcastscan be, it's like, are they a
detriment to me sometimes?
Because they just.
Are able to numb this job that Idon't really like, but to where
it's like, ah, I can just listento some really cool stuff and
tolerate this job where insteadof like heavily being focused on
(17:29):
getting out of the job, I don'tknow if that makes any sense or
if you can relate to that in anyway.
But
Michael (17:34):
yeah, I think so.
I think it's just, it's probablyfinding a way to reframe that.
So Cool.
You can use those podcasts toagain, feed into some of those
passions and listen to thingsthat you really care about,
whether it's listening to musicthat you know you're going to
have to do and spending time tolearn the music, like you've got
(17:55):
the time or, listening toYouTube tutorials of some
particular part that's hard toget.
There's other ways that you canfill in those gaps and say okay,
I'm going to use that time andI'll.
Pick one hour a day to listen tothese songs that I don't
normally listen to, but I know Ishould listen to learn better
just by like structurallyunderstanding them because every
(18:19):
song it's like, yeah, you canhave charts up and things like
that.
If you don't listen to thesongs.
It's quite a bit.
Anyways, I think it's for mostpeople anyways, it's hard to get
the overall feel of it.
You're still able to gain somevaluable wisdom or knowledge
while you're doing this job andyou're getting paid to learn.
I think that's one of the otherthings when you.
(18:42):
When I think about the past yearand what we've been doing with
this podcast, one of the biggestpassions that we all clearly
have is learning and continuingto learn.
And so it's a way where when Ilook at my current job, I'm
learning so much in doing thosetypes of things that I think are
beneficial skills to help megain more discipline and gain
(19:04):
more expertise in, in areas thatI know will better me in the
future.
So it's like a lot of it's justreframing things and it's not
like always.
Possible to find the silverlining, especially in the case
of those boxes.
That's just pure anger, notgoing to get out of that.
And the same thing for me when Iget certain requests that I'm
just like, this is so far belowme, but I'm going to do it
(19:25):
because.
That's the type of person I am.
So I don't know, that's probablyall I've got to say on the
subject, to be honest with you.
I think it's, something I couldtalk more about specific
passions, but as far as thecontext of reclaiming our
freedom, it's just, I think,important to look at.
And do some analysis of what arewe doing on a day to day basis
to really cultivate thosepassions and how are we making
(19:49):
sure that we have the time forthose, because they're more
important than the nine to fivegrind, if that's what we're
doing, or however you want tocall it.
Yeah,
Preston (20:00):
I agree.
I think I said about all I needto say.
I think I cussed more than thisepisode than any of that before.
Michael (20:09):
I thought it was funny because it's like that's the
true.
I think that's the truemotivator in many cases.
It's like you get to this pointand What, society is telling us
is Oh, this is, you and I, weallegedly have 25 more, 30 more
years to work, to retire.
And it's just, that's insane tothink about.
(20:32):
And I know you would be like,there's no way you'd be doing
that 25 years from now.
No, that'd be
Preston (20:37):
like, that'd be like a 55 or 56 year career at FedEx.
Michael (20:41):
Nah, yeah, there's
Preston (20:42):
a guy at our station.
I think he's at 40, 42
Michael (20:47):
or 43 years that he maxed out on PTO
Preston (20:53):
We only get a maximum of five weeks a year that yeah,
that's maxed out like we're Iknow UPS I think they can bank
stuff and roll it over what wedon't we can't roll anything
over we have to use it In theyears, which is
Michael (21:06):
yeah, Tony Robbins talks about a guy who worked at
FedEx and invested into FedExwith all of his he saved a
ridiculous amount of money, buthe became a millionaire working
at FedEx because he wasinvesting in FedEx, like from
the beginning of his careerthere, which was a long time
previous, Pretty interesting.
Yes, sir.
(21:27):
Thanks for listening to episode49
Preston (21:32):
of the Reclaiming Man podcast, podcast, podcast.
We'll see you guys next week forepisode 50.
Michael (21:42):
Yeah, we better.
Yeah, 5
Preston (21:44):
0.
Shoot.
All right.
Have a good one.
Happy Monday or Friday orWednesday, whenever y'all listen
to this.
Dude, how's it going?
Preston (00:01):
It's good, man.
It is what the heck?
Oh, there we go.
Hold on one second.
Well, welcome to whateverepisode 49 there, Michael.
Yes, sir.
Episode 49.
Welcome to
Michael (00:16):
the Uncanny
Preston (00:16):
Man podcast.
Tonight you got me, PrestonRadomski, Southern Canuck and
Michael Z Mastermind.
Is that what we're calling itthese days?
The
Michael (00:26):
the man who started it all.
Oh, it's kind of like, yeah,Dimash to Big Lebowski, you
know, he's an artist.
He passed mind.
I really, it's like, oh,
Preston (00:37):
we
Michael (00:38):
believe in nothing.
Yeah.
Preston (00:40):
Michael, we are talking about passion tonight.
Is that the, topic du jour forus to,
Michael (00:49):
Yeah, we're on reclaiming freedom and thinking
about.
What are some of the keys tothat and what have I've been
reading lately that has beeninspiring me in the arena of
passion and just being focusedon things that you truly are
passionate about and howimportant that is in the context
of leadership and achieving ourgoals.
(01:10):
And so just wanted to touch alittle bit about that and.
I guess share a couple ofdifferent, there's a few
different passages, things thatI've been reading lately that
I'm hoping to share in this,which we haven't done as much in
recent episodes.
So hopefully I won't overdo it,but there's a couple of short
little excerpts that I want toread and chat through with you,
Preston, and get your thoughtson them.
(01:31):
But I mentioned some of it inpolo over the past week or so.
Yeah, we can dive right in ifyou want.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
So last year we did, somereadings from John Maxwell.
And so I'm going to share one ofthose Maxwell's, February 3rd
reading ratchet up your passion.
Starts off with this question.
What makes it possible forpeople who might seem ordinary
(01:53):
to achieve great things?
The answer is passion.
Nothing can take the place ofpassion in a leader's life.
Take a look at four truths aboutpassion and what it can do for
you as a leader.
One.
Passion is the first step toachievement.
Your desire determines yourdestiny.
Anyone who lives beyond anordinary life has great desire.
It's true in any field.
Weak desire brings weak results,just as a small fire creates
(02:14):
little heat.
The stronger your fire, thegreater the desire, and the
greater the potential.
Number two, passion increasesyour willpower.
There's no substitute forpassion.
It is fuel for the will.
If you want anything badlyenough, you can find the
willpower to achieve it.
The only way to have that kindof desire is to develop passion.
Three, passion changes you.
If you follow your passioninstead of others perceptions,
(02:35):
you can't help become a morededicated, productive person.
That increases your ability toimpact others.
In the end, your passion willhave more influence than your
personality.
Four, passion makes theimpossible possible.
Human beings are so made thatwhenever anything fires this
hole, impossibilities vanish.
A fire in the heart liftseverything in your life.
That's why passionate leadersare so effective.
(02:57):
A leader with great passion andfew skills always outperforms a
leader with great skills and nopassion.
And that is the, The reading,and it, I think just triggered a
bunch of really good thoughtsaround, this year for me and how
to make sure that I'm focusingin on my passions, in parallel
(03:18):
to some of the things that I'mless passionate about, in order
to get through it.
So I wondered if it was similarfor you, Preston, where, you're
doing the music stuff and, wewant that to be the main thing.
Since you're passionate, you'rereal passionate about it.
And then, you also are in thestill same boat as me where it's
(03:40):
we're grinding along still, itfeels like in our, our day to
day jobs, the sort of moneymaking, put the bread on the
table sort of situation.
So just curious how that little,reading from John Maxwell might
impact you.
Preston (03:55):
You read that to us about a week ago, and that
wasn't quite a week ago, and Ididn't remember it word for word
from the year before, but Iremember that one really hitting
me as far as just, as far asdiving in.
It's so weird.
Like I delivered to this Guytoday.
I was on a route that I just Ido all the routes in our station
(04:20):
and like on this morning I waslistening to this podcast that I
listened to called Nashville fornobodies Which is this these two
guys in Nashville that areNashville musicians Broadway
players and our buddy BradDawson was their guest this week
So this all morning, like I'mlistening to Brad tell his story
and, them talk about Broadwayand he brought me up a little
(04:42):
bit, I got this buddy press andit's like working to try and get
down here too And then a couplehours later, I delivered to this
business and the guy opens thedoor and I'm like, I know that
guy, I'm like, I know you, whatis your name?
And I don't remember his name,but he's a guy that ran sound at
this July 4th event I was atlast year with my family.
And he was like the drummer forhis brother's band, but also
(05:03):
running front of house sound forthem as well.
A family affair.
And him and I were talking andwhen he remembered me today,
he's Hey, aren't you supposedto, weren't you going to be
going down and working onBroadway?
And I'm just in my head, Yes,and I'm delivering FedEx
packages to you right now.
You're so right.
And I was thinking about thatpassion thing where I've got
three Broadway gigs lined up inthe next four weeks, a wedding
(05:27):
in May, and we booked like a 4thof July show.
There's some, there's definitelymuch more on the books.
And in the next couple of weeks,I need to just start going
downtown.
Like on a Friday and hanging outwith bands while they're playing
and I'm starting to meet peoplein this little gig finder group.
(05:49):
And it's just that element ofwhat are you doing?
Like sitting on the bench, dude.
Michael (05:55):
I had that feeling this afternoon.
I was.
Send in a text message to Jenand I was just like, this is not
what I want to be doing.
I want to be trading.
I have so much more passion forplaying music and trading.
And so I was just going to sharelike on the passion side, I
(06:15):
haven't talked as much about itlately, but to your points, like
you've been lining up thoseshows, which is Kudos to you
because it's, you're takingthose steps and you're starting
to build those relationshipsthat once you have that
foundation, it gives you theplatform to really take the
step.
And I think you could really,get radical and quit your job
(06:36):
and put yourself in this highpressure situation where you are
jumping off the cliff.
And you're, taking the leap.
But I think sometimes there hasto be some place to land and the
practicality of it.
You're like, okay, I've stillgot a I'm in the same boat where
she was like, look, I've gotbills to pay.
I know I could take a risk andstart trying to trade full time,
(07:01):
play music full time, but I feelvery strongly compelled that the
data doesn't suggest that Ishould do that yet, and same for
you, you're getting these shows,but the cadence of those shows,
it's oh, you still need to getto the point where.
There's the level of,opportunity, and, part of the
reason Scott's not on the show,I feel like the past week or two
(07:24):
is because he's been reallydriving his opportunity funnel
in a way that has, to yourpoint, filled his plate beyond
full and he's.
Been able to execute, on somepretty cool things that, are a
result of him creating thatopportunity, which is what you
and I are trying to do.
But, yeah, I had that same sortof just realization today when I
(07:48):
was, staring at my computerscreens in front of me and
seeing 140 emails and waslooking at this list of projects
that all had pretty firmdeliverables this week.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, I haveto.
I'm going to have to execute ona lot this week and I know I'll
be able to do it.
And, at the same time, I waslike, this isn't what I want to
(08:11):
be doing.
And it's going to extend intothe time that I want to be doing
other things like playing musicand trading.
And so I was just like thattrade off.
It either has to end relativelysoon, or I find a, another, path
forward, but, yeah, it just mademe want to talk a little bit
(08:34):
about why I'm, passionate abouttrading versus.
The nine to five world and a lotof it is also, I think just the
commonality that you and I havewith playing music and I want to
be able to play music all thetime, but not necessarily rely
on it for money.
And that's just like a personalphilosophy more than anything.
(08:54):
But I just don't want to have itfrom a time perspective.
That's ultimately what itbecomes.
There's a lot more until you getto a certain level, which very
few do.
I absolutely believe in whatyou're working towards.
I think it's a really cool and,like a really great idea with
what you're trying to do withbuild a legacy on Broadway.
(09:15):
But, that's one of my end goalstoo, just to be able to play
music.
Every week live music with goodmusicians, for me, I want to do
it in the context of at achurch, which of course doesn't
really pay that well.
So that's not really what it'sabout for me.
I just want to be able to playmusic and do worship and gospel
and, that kind of music that Ireally love.
That's the thing that I think, Ihaven't necessarily talked as
(09:38):
much about on the show, so Ijust wanted to share that with,
our audience and then thinkingabout.
What are the, what's the burningdesire that I have and it's to
be able to spend the time, doingthe things that I want with the
people that I want to do it withand spend more time with my
family and those types of likehigh level goals of loving my
(09:58):
family.
It means I have to be taking astep away from corporate
America, the empire of nothing,so to speak in the near future.
And I think it's the same waywith you and FedEx, right?
Preston (10:11):
Yeah.
Like my last stop of the daytoday is this.
Business out and I don't know ifit's like Tullahoma, Manchester.
And they're just a smallnightmare of a place to go to
because they have this like bulkpickup that's made like five
pallets of stuff to pick uptoday.
(10:31):
And they have, they do a ton ofinternational shipments, which
with international shipments,when you, it's like a driver,
when you pick them up, you haveto pull like commercial invoices
and these like thermal copies ofstuff.
That have to then get collectedand imaged to customs by a team
(10:53):
of people back at the station.
Now it's 2024, and all that canbe done digitally?
So none of that has to bepulled, but for whatever reason,
this company they ship thirdparty or something.
And there are sales rep can'tfucking figure that out for the
fuck knows.
And so this stop that ships outa ton of packages and then like,
(11:16):
they do this thing where it'sit'll be five boxes going to the
same place, but there'll be likea multiple piece shipment.
So there'll be like a master andfour.
Slaves, you call them like in asense, like other ones that are
tied to it.
And in order to scan them all,that way you're like only making
one address label for, you'renot having to like to make five.
(11:39):
Anyway, but in order to scanthem, they have to all be
scanned together.
But when they stack them for meon palettes, or for the regular
guy, I'm just the fill in guy,but they like, it's like they
intentionally mix them all up.
So you have to like, you have totake all these palettes.
It's just a fucking Shit show ofa nightmare and like my bot
we've tried talking to them andthey're just like basically they
(12:00):
tell us like we employ fuckingstupid people that cannot figure
this out and if it's always adifferent person and it's just
like at the end of the day it'sjust like god damn like what the
fuck are we doing here?
And it's like my whole day isfine and then I get to this
place and I just I'll breathe 10times I'm like just it's gonna
be good and then today it's fivemore pallets like it's usually
two pallets of stuff and todayit was five and I'm sitting
(12:21):
there after this day oflistening to my buddy on his
music podcast and then runninginto the sound guy and I'm like.
Yeah, but like we gotta fasttrack this a bit more because
you're gonna have a nervousbreakdown over nothing, cause
it's just like this.
Like I'm not making any, I meanI'm getting paid by the hour
quite well, but it's like I'mnot making any money off of
these boxes being picked up andlike I have no connection to
(12:43):
this company or to thisbusiness.
Yeah.
Michael (12:45):
And it doesn't scale and it's you're not passionate
about it.
Preston (12:48):
I'm questioning like am I really that passionate about
music and doing this?
If I'm not going to just do it,you know?
Michael (12:54):
Yeah.
And the other thing I think Iwanted to mention about passion
is that it isn't something thatis finite or at one fixed level.
That was the Napoleon Hill quotethat I was thinking about.
Really.
Was, there's one quality, whichone must possess to win.
And that is definite as apurpose, the knowledge of what
(13:17):
one wants and a burning desireto possess it like that burning
desire piece.
I feel like.
It might start as like a dream,but over time, the more that you
put energy into it, you'recultivating it becomes like a
stronger desire.
The more you have experienceslike you just had, today, or I
had today.
It, it helps you refocus yourenergy and it also in, in that
(13:41):
regard makes me think, and maybethis is different than most, but
I think like with my jobcurrently, I'm like I just want
to absolutely crush this.
So when I do leave, like I'm onthe, I'm on the ramp, right?
Like I'm moving up, I'm doinggood things.
I'm having a positive impact onthe organization and leaving it
in a light.
Much better place than I foundit, so to speak, you're just
(14:04):
saying, oh, why is this processthis way?
I think it's that kind of thingthat, we can use that as fuel
for burning, right?
Like just, yeah, it I thinkignites In many cases, it
reignites the passion and, itmakes me feel like more
definiteness of purpose to, toborrow from Napoleon Hill.
(14:25):
And, I was playing music beforethe podcast and I just riffing
on some stuff that, I needed toplay this weekend.
And every once in a while I haveto remind myself, which is, this
is a lot of times I'm trying toplay things like note for note,
exactly what the part is like100 percent to prescription
(14:47):
dynamically the same way.
The right phrasing and the rightfeel of it.
There's just so many littlenuances depending on the type of
music.
And, I was just like rememberingthis is why I'm so passionate
about music because I can hearwhat they're doing.
And then I can play somethingthat.
Is Close enough and feel, butit's impossible for me to screw
(15:09):
up because it's just me playingit and I can create within the
context of the structure thatthey've built, and I'm very
passionate about that, likecreating something.
Within a well defined system andstructure, and that I think
applies to a lot of other areasin my life and career.
So that's the stuff I wanted toget off my chest when it comes
(15:32):
to passion and just share thatit can be cultivated.
We can take things that seem tobe like a negative experience in
our life and use that as fuelto, to feed our passions and.
Drive us towards our goals asopposed to getting sucked into
the negative side of it andbeing like, okay, this is
brutal.
(15:52):
You're about to destroy theseboxes that, some moron shoved
all this paper into it's likepossible to sort through.
It's you're going to lose it.
And it's you could, or you couldbe like, yeah, this is.
Now motivation for me to workeven harder to book that next
gig, I'm going to use this asmotivation for, I don't want to
(16:12):
be doing this forever.
And because I'm just going
Preston (16:16):
to come back and be a bad karma thing.
And it's just that's not good.
I was thinking too, I thoughtabout this.
Recently, like the first gosh,probably five, six, seven years
when I was working at FedEx, Ididn't have podcasts or anything
(16:37):
like that because they weren'treally around.
And I think back to that time.
And I used to just.
Michael (16:45):
Listen to music or
Preston (16:46):
what?
No, I would just be in my headall day, like plotting out ways
to do stuff for at the time Iwasn't in a, I lived in
California.
I was like in an original band,but I've come up with song ideas
and like just all day, justplotting, things to do for shows
and flyers and would come homeand, go to band practice.
And we did all kinds of coolstuff back then.
(17:08):
We're like, I almost sometimesfeel like as much information
and as interesting as podcastscan be, it's like, are they a
detriment to me sometimes?
Because they just.
Are able to numb this job that Idon't really like, but to where
it's like, ah, I can just listento some really cool stuff and
tolerate this job where insteadof like heavily being focused on
(17:29):
getting out of the job, I don'tknow if that makes any sense or
if you can relate to that in anyway.
But
Michael (17:34):
yeah, I think so.
I think it's just, it's probablyfinding a way to reframe that.
So Cool.
You can use those podcasts toagain, feed into some of those
passions and listen to thingsthat you really care about,
whether it's listening to musicthat you know you're going to
have to do and spending time tolearn the music, like you've got
(17:55):
the time or, listening toYouTube tutorials of some
particular part that's hard toget.
There's other ways that you canfill in those gaps and say okay,
I'm going to use that time andI'll.
Pick one hour a day to listen tothese songs that I don't
normally listen to, but I know Ishould listen to learn better
just by like structurallyunderstanding them because every
(18:19):
song it's like, yeah, you canhave charts up and things like
that.
If you don't listen to thesongs.
It's quite a bit.
Anyways, I think it's for mostpeople anyways, it's hard to get
the overall feel of it.
You're still able to gain somevaluable wisdom or knowledge
while you're doing this job andyou're getting paid to learn.
I think that's one of the otherthings when you.
(18:42):
When I think about the past yearand what we've been doing with
this podcast, one of the biggestpassions that we all clearly
have is learning and continuingto learn.
And so it's a way where when Ilook at my current job, I'm
learning so much in doing thosetypes of things that I think are
beneficial skills to help megain more discipline and gain
(19:04):
more expertise in, in areas thatI know will better me in the
future.
So it's like a lot of it's justreframing things and it's not
like always.
Possible to find the silverlining, especially in the case
of those boxes.
That's just pure anger, notgoing to get out of that.
And the same thing for me when Iget certain requests that I'm
just like, this is so far belowme, but I'm going to do it
(19:25):
because.
That's the type of person I am.
So I don't know, that's probablyall I've got to say on the
subject, to be honest with you.
I think it's, something I couldtalk more about specific
passions, but as far as thecontext of reclaiming our
freedom, it's just, I think,important to look at.
And do some analysis of what arewe doing on a day to day basis
to really cultivate thosepassions and how are we making
(19:49):
sure that we have the time forthose, because they're more
important than the nine to fivegrind, if that's what we're
doing, or however you want tocall it.
Yeah,
Preston (20:00):
I agree.
I think I said about all I needto say.
I think I cussed more than thisepisode than any of that before.
Michael (20:09):
I thought it was funny because it's like that's the
true.
I think that's the truemotivator in many cases.
It's like you get to this pointand What, society is telling us
is Oh, this is, you and I, weallegedly have 25 more, 30 more
years to work, to retire.
And it's just, that's insane tothink about.
(20:32):
And I know you would be like,there's no way you'd be doing
that 25 years from now.
No, that'd be
Preston (20:37):
like, that'd be like a 55 or 56 year career at FedEx.
Michael (20:41):
Nah, yeah, there's
Preston (20:42):
a guy at our station.
I think he's at 40, 42
Michael (20:47):
or 43 years that he maxed out on PTO
Preston (20:53):
We only get a maximum of five weeks a year that yeah,
that's maxed out like we're Iknow UPS I think they can bank
stuff and roll it over what wedon't we can't roll anything
over we have to use it In theyears, which is
Michael (21:06):
yeah, Tony Robbins talks about a guy who worked at
FedEx and invested into FedExwith all of his he saved a
ridiculous amount of money, buthe became a millionaire working
at FedEx because he wasinvesting in FedEx, like from
the beginning of his careerthere, which was a long time
previous, Pretty interesting.
Yes, sir.
(21:27):
Thanks for listening to episode49
Preston (21:32):
of the Reclaiming Man podcast, podcast, podcast.
We'll see you guys next week forepisode 50.
Michael (21:42):
Yeah, we better.
Yeah, 5
Preston (21:44):
0.
Shoot.
All right.
Have a good one.
Happy Monday or Friday orWednesday, whenever y'all listen
to this.
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