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April 8, 2024 62 mins

Join Pam Allen-LeBlanc, Karen Harrison, and Karen Caig for a conversation about the transformative potential of Reiki in healing sexual abuse trauma.

We'll delve deep into the unique ways Reiki can:

  • Promote deep relaxation and a sense of safety within your body.
  • Release trapped emotions and energetic blockages caused by trauma.
  • Reconnect you with your inner strength and resilience.
  • Empower you to reclaim your sense of self-worth and personal power.

We'll explore practical tips, personal anecdotes, and the profound impact Reiki can have on your journey.

Whether you're a Reiki practitioner or a survivor seeking solace, this episode is for you. Let's rewrite the narrative and become more whole together.

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Links
Silver Bay, NY - NE Reiki Retreat:  https://northeastreikiretreat.org/ 

Rhinebeck, NY - Omega events:
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Wisdom of Reiki Conference: June 21-23:
https://www.eomega.org/workshops/the-wisdom-of-reiki-conference 

Transforming Emotions with Reiki
Blog: https://www.karenharrison.net/transforming-emotions-with-reiki/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkDGfQYJ9ZA&list=PL2QhbO6oGj7TVAg4YNqlQglOjdJxYUkGF&index=27 

Blog: Lessons from Holy Fire Reiki
https://www.karenharrison.net/lessons-from-holy-fire/ 

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Karen Caig has been an LRMT with the International Center for Reiki Training since 2020. Passionate about helping others find relief from stress and pain, she continues to be guided on her own healing path by Reiki. Karen's mission is to train at least one Reiki Master for every family, promoting deep healing and making the world a better place.

Get in Touch with Karen Caig:
Websitewww.Reiki-Institute.com

Karen Harrison is a Senior Licensed Reiki Master Teacher with the International Center for Reiki Training (ICRT). She teaches various Reiki levels, including Holy Fire® III Karuna Reiki® Master and is the Co-Director of the ICRT's Licensed Reiki Master Teacher Training Program. Since starting her Reiki studies in 1993, she has trained with several ICRT teachers and Japanese Reiki Masters. Her work has also featured in the Reiki News Magazine. Besides Reiki, she's a licensed Professional Counselor and Marriage and Family Therapist, with 22 years of spiritual counseling at Unity Church of Overland Park, Kansas.

Get in touch with Karen Harrison:
Website:
https://www.karenharrison.net/

Pam Allen-LeBlanc is a scientist, businesswoman, and Licensed Reiki Master Teacher (LRMT) with the International Center for Reiki Training.  

Get in Touch with Pam:
Email: pam@reikifromthefarm.com

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Pamela (00:07):
Hi and welcome to the Reiki from the Farm podcast
brought to you by me, Pam AllenLeblanc from Hidden Brook Farm.
I am a scientist, abusinesswoman, and a licensed
Reiki master teacher with theInternational Center for Reiki
Training.
Each week in this podcast you'llbe entertained as you learn
about a wide variety of relevantReiki topics, helping you become

(00:30):
a more knowledgeable andeffective Reiki practitioner.
We caution you though, thispodcast may also dramatically
improve your life, and we are sohappy that you're here.

(00:55):
Welcome, everyone on this week'spodcast, and

Karen Harrison (01:00):
on this month's Reiki call,

Pamela (01:03):
we're talking together for the first time.
friends and colleagues Pam AllenLeBlanc, Karen Harrison and
Karen Kegg.
We are all licensed Reiki masterteachers with the International
Center for Reiki Training andwe're talking this time this
month, this week about Reiki andhow it can heal sexual abuse

(01:25):
trauma.
And this is a subject that cameup during one of my classes.
Somebody had healed some prettysignificant health issues with
Reiki, but was still confused orwondering how to get through
some previous sexual trauma andsome childhood sexual abuse.

(01:46):
And she wondered if there wasanything that we could do to
help her.
And so the three of us talkedabout it and decided to get
together and talk on this.
So welcome, Karen Harrison andKaren Kegg.
Thank you for being here.

Karen Caig (02:00):
Thank you for hosting us on this important
topic.
Yeah,

Pamela (02:04):
thanks.

Karen Caig (02:04):
Yeah, this is important work

Karen Harrison (02:06):
that I address all the time in my Reiki
practice, since I'm also acounselor.
So Happy to talk about it.

Pamela (02:16):
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm thrilled as well.
So guys, before we begin, I justwant to let you know some of the
great things that are coming up.
I've got Animal CommunicationLevel 1 and 2, March 23rd and
24th.
And for the first time everanother, an Animal Communication
Level 3 ProfessionalPractitioner Class, March 24th.

(02:38):
5th.
We also have some animalcommunication classes coming up
in an Asian time zone.
We'll be doing an introductionin June and the class will be
July 12th to 14th.
In April and May, there's levelone and two in masters here at
the farm and online.
There's Animal Reiki 1 and 2 inMasters, both at the farm and

(02:59):
online.
And I'll be speaking, teachingAnimal Communication 1 and 2 at
the Northeast Reiki Retreat inSilver Bay, New York, May 3rd to
5th.
And I'll put a link to theretreat in the podcast outline.
I'd love to see you guys in NewYork, if you can be there.

(03:20):
And then go ahead and join us inCampobello in July for Reiki
level one and two and masterclasses and also animal one and
two and master and those Classeswill include getting out on the
ocean with the whales I alsowant to invite you all to attend
an open to peace workshop atOmega Institute that I'll be

(03:44):
part of June 16th to 21st.
And as well the Wisdom of Reikiconference also at the Omega
Institute June 21st to 23rd.
And I'll be at that conferencealong with Colleen Bonelli and
William Rand and Brett Bevel andseveral other of our Wonderful
Reiki colleagues.

(04:05):
So we'd love to have you joinus.
Guys, what do you have comingup?

Karen Caig (04:08):
Just check reiki institute.
com.
I have a regular Reiki 1 and 2,Reiki Master, Kaurna Reiki
coming up in April.
I only offer that four times ayear and Animal Reiki 1 and 2
and Animal Reiki Master.
So just check my website.

Pamela (04:24):
Yeah.
And you're working on making itso people can join you in
Ecuador eventually.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
I

Karen Caig (04:30):
am.
We do have in the works JayJackson and I are talking about
co teaching Animal Reiki masterwith a trip to the Galapagos
Islands, which is part ofEcuador and and possibly Kaurna
Reiki.
That includes a trip to theAmazon Rainforest, which Karen
Harrison has visited with me.
So I'm excited.

(04:50):
So just check my website.
That'll be up coming in thefall.
That's coming in

Pamela (04:54):
the fall.
Okay.
We got to keep our eyes peeledfor that.
So give me a little heads up onthat one.
Okay.
And then, yeah.
And Karen Harrison, what do youhave coming up?

Karen Harrison (05:04):
I have all the levels coming up on my website
at karenharrison.
net, Kaurna Reiki.
Reiki Master, Reiki 1 and 2,Animal Reiki 1 Animal Master.
So they're all on my website,karenharrison.

Pamela (05:17):
net.
Amazing.
So guys, before we go too far,I'm just going to invite
everybody to bring your handstogether in Gassho, and we're
going to go ahead and activateour Reiki energy.
And if you have symbols,activate those as well.

(05:37):
It's very uncommon to not knowsomebody who has experienced
sexual abuse.
It's so pervasive in oursociety.
And so whether that's somethingthat you've experienced yourself
or a family member or a friend,we're so glad that you're here

(05:57):
today.
Go ahead and place your handscomfortably on your body, just
giving yourself Reiki andbreathe.
And I invite you to just openyour heart, open your mind, and
open your attention with theintention to allow Reiki to heal

(06:20):
whatever comes up for you duringour conversations.
Whether you've been a parent ofsomeone or someone in your
family, whether it's somethingyou've experienced yourself, a
friend or a loved one, this is avery common trauma that impacts

(06:45):
and affects so many.
And so we just invite Reiki toenvelop any uncomfortable
feelings as they come up, anydifficulties that arise, and
release them with love for us.

(07:10):
And we also invite Reiki tosurround ourselves, our loved
ones, anyone who has experiencedabuse in the past and to assist
them and remain with them aslong as it's needed.

(07:30):
We are so blessed that we arenot helpless.
We are so blessed to be of thislineage of light bringers
creating wellness on the earthtoday.
And that begins with each of uscreating wellness within
ourselves.
Thank you for this Reiki familythat we are all a part of,

(07:57):
friends, our colleagues, ourfamily, and thank you for the
gift of Reiki to assist us withthe difficulties that are often
part of living life on thisplanet, on the earth.
Aho and Namaste.

Karen Harrison (08:19):
Yeah, thank you, Pam.
That was beautiful.

Pamela (08:22):
You're welcome.
Guys, in my practice as a Reikimaster and a Reiki practitioner,
sexual trauma is so common.
It's funny because in a way, notfunny, funny peculiar in a way

(08:43):
that it's something that wethink of as isolated and, you
know.
and not common, but it's so common.
I see it among my clients.
Even at one point, I had aquestion of whether I had been
sexually abused myself, becauseI had all the symptoms of it.
And the energy was just veryclear with me that I was

(09:05):
actually such a powerful empaththat although I hadn't been, I
had Brought in the feelings andemotions of others who had been
and my body didn't know thatthose were not my emotions And
so it reacted in much the sameway But this is something that's
so common.

(09:26):
I see it all the time in mypractice and I think I just
wanted to mention that so thatif anybody listening has
experienced this just anunderstanding that You are not
alone by any stretch.
And what do you guys notice inyour practices on this topic?

Karen Caig (09:47):
The same and I don't know if you notice but during
the invocation, I, my handsautomatically went to my throat
in my sacral area because thisis where the blocks seem to show
up and especially with myclients.
I can't tell you how many timesI've just asked them like, have
you experienced either sexualassault, sexual molestation as a
child, and Several times they'vesaid, How did you know?

(10:12):
I've never told anybody like I'mpsychic or something.
I'm like, No, it's just a guess.
I said, because it's happened tome.
And it's very common that westore that trauma and it turns
into a block in the sacral area,and we don't talk about it.
And then it becomes a blockhere.
Um, It's so common and I thinkthat the most damaging part of

(10:33):
it is that you don't talk aboutit, it's the shame surrounding
whether it was sexual abuse as achild or sexual assault.
of any kind, and I'm talkingabout men as well as women.
Absolutely.
There's this incredible shamearound it.
What did I do to invite that?
Or I shouldn't have dressed thatway.
Or I shouldn't have, what, Ishould have screamed.
I should have fought harder.

(10:54):
I should have.
And then you just, And and itaffects so many parts of your
life, so I'm so grateful thatyour client wanted to talk about
this because it's very common,but we just don't talk about it.

Pamela (11:06):
I agree, Karen, and I remember talking with my husband
about it and saying, actually, Idon't know if I know anybody who
hasn't been assaulted in someway.
And he was shocked.
He couldn't believe that.
And I just said, yeah it's justreally common.
Yeah,

Karen Harrison (11:26):
I think the statistics, and I was just going
to look them up real quick.
Last I saw are like one in fivewomen and something similar for
men also.

Pamela (11:37):
And Karen, I bet you it's even higher than that.

Karen Harrison (11:39):
I imagine it is, because many people have not
admitted it.

Pamela (11:44):
Exactly.

Karen Harrison (11:46):
Yeah, anyway you can look it up.
It's very prevalent and, becauseI'm a counselor and I advertise
that I do trauma work I havemany people coming in to me to
work on their own sexual assaultor perhaps they are the parent
of someone who was sexuallyassaulted.
And so there's, feelings aboutit either way.

Pamela (12:09):
Yeah.
And what caused you to get intothat, Karen, as a counselor?

Karen Harrison (12:14):
As a counselor, it's such a common issue that
it's important to work withthat.
But I've been working withsexual issues ever since I was
in my practicum in college.
Somehow distal cases withdifferent sexual things were
assigned to me and probablybecause of my own wounding and
experience.
On the one hand I came from afamily that was pretty open,

(12:38):
sexually and open about, thebody and so forth.
But then, in my first marriage,I experienced my own sexual
abuse and wounding and had myown therapy to work through
that.
As counselors, we often work onthe things that we have
experienced ourselves and havedone the healing work around

(13:00):
because then we can speak withmore compassion and authority.
in helping our own clients.
And then several years ago, Istarted focusing my practice
solely on Reiki.
I'd done the Reiki and thecounseling, side by side for
years, but I found that withtrauma, completed trauma that's

(13:25):
trauma that has passed.
The Reiki could help muchquicker than the counseling
techniques that I was using.
And now, granted, I'm nottrained in EMDR, the eye
movement, desensitization, andreprocessing, but now I was
trained in the tapping solution.
And I just found the Reiki.

(13:45):
to work much quicker and I'vehad good success in clearing out
the old trauma in one to sixsessions.
Usually it takes two to four andthe counseling techniques just
couldn't work as quickly.
Now if someone has ongoingtrauma, where they're in an

(14:06):
abusive situation or, dealingwith that, then, it's going to
take much longer because there'smore things going on there.
There's the getting retraumatized over and over.

Pamela (14:17):
Right.
But if it's completed, ifthey're out of the situation,
and I find the same, Karen, thatwhen I do deal with clients, two
to four sessions is normal,sometimes a little longer.
But yeah that's normal too,which is incredible.
When you think about it,because, and Karen Kegg, one of

(14:37):
the things you had mentioned wasjust what are some of the things
that that people who are, theydo experience this type of
abuse, what are some of thethings that they experience and,
you talked about the shame, butthere's a lot more to it, isn't
there?
There's,

Karen Caig (14:54):
Yeah.
And you don't, at least I didn'trealize that I was carrying
around all of that.
I thought, Oh, this is just howI am.
I'm a people pleaser.
I'm I'm quiet.
No I'm pretty, believe it ornot.
I'm I don't have a lot ofconfidence.
But I have bad acting classes soI can act like I have
confidence.
There's there's a lot that you,you learn to cope.

(15:15):
You learn to compensate.
But I had toxic relationshipafter toxic relationship.
I remember when Oprah did thespecial where she focused on
sexual predators and that was soeye opening to me because I
remember as a child thinking, doI just have it written across my
forehead?
Because it happened first with afamily member.

(15:35):
It happened with teachers.
It happened over and over.
And I thought, do I just havelike, do bad things to me across
my forehead?
And when I watched that specialand listened to those sexual
predators, I thought, yeah, Idid.
They look for kids from brokenfamilies from, blah, blah, blah,
all of that.
And to hear them say that theyreally were predators and that

(15:58):
they couldn't help it.
The way, for whatever reason,Karen knows more about this, she
talked about the repeatingcycles, but to realize it's not
my fault, I really thought therewas something wrong with me, and
so you carry that, and you don'trealize that's the cause of it,
but you have this sense of notjust guilt, but shame, there's
something wrong with you, andthat affects everything you do,

(16:18):
and how you show up in theworld, and It wasn't until I
found Reiki at 49, and it was myvery first Reiki class.
I remember this big release, andI still didn't know that's what
it was.
But there was like, it was like,it was so embarrassing because I

(16:39):
was just sobbing on the table inmy class.
And I remember Nora Daikomo washolding my feet and she said,
that's okay, just let it go.
And I didn't even know what itwas.
But that started like thisrelease.
And Karen before we started thepodcast, was talking about how
the wonderful thing about thisis you don't even have to know
all the details or what it is orwhat it was or all that, but

(17:00):
Reiki, especially the Holy FireReiki, its main quality is
purification.
That's the first thing.
And so it starts releasing allthat junk that you just pushed
down, didn't think about, moveahead, try not to think about,
yeah.
And because what's the point?
It happens.

(17:20):
And it's just that you carrythat around energetically, all
of that.
And so once you start to releaseall of that Holy Fire Reiki
really helped.
And then then you can start toheal.
And then you can the next partof the Holy Fire energy is the
empowerment.
And you begin to feel empoweredand you begin to ask for

(17:41):
guidance and you begin to askfor changes in your life.
And so that's how it just, it ithappens.
And I didn't have to pull allthat up and talk about it.
I did have some therapy in my30s but there was so much.
And so that's what Karen issaying, like in a couple of
sessions, it's just that theReiki goes to work and you don't
have to relive it.
You don't have to talk about it.
You don't have to, it's just, itstarts to Release.

(18:05):
And when you're ready and whenyou're ready, I think that's why
we get called to Reiki.
We go to a Reiki session or wefeel like we're called to a
class and we're not really surewhy.
It's because on some level,there's stuff that needs to
release.
So yeah.
Go ahead, Karen.
Yeah.

Karen Harrison (18:25):
I'd like to mention it doesn't end with the
sexual abuse, then many timespeople will act out in different
ways as a coping mechanism.
Sometimes people will becomepromiscuous because they think
that their only worth is as asexual object.
Maybe they become abusersthemselves, maybe they try to

(18:47):
numb out with alcohol or drugs,or maybe they regularly
dissociate.
and are not present in theirbodies and are just gone or, any
number of unhealthy copingmechanisms.
Yeah.
The

Karen Caig (19:02):
numbing out.
I think that's really common forpeople.
And I was sharing with Pam andKaren before we started the
podcast that when I look to talkabout this subject, like, how
does Reiki help you?
And I'm like, how did that help?
Like I just said with the HolyFire, I think that started it
all, but for me personally, whathelped, what you were saying,
like the coping mechanism, thedissociation and everything.

(19:24):
I think the Animal Reiki helpedme the most after the Holy Fire
helped clear everything out.
I did not, I wasn't in my body.
And I I would stuff.
I would eat too much.
I used to drink too muchsometimes.
I would, I would just like stuffthose feelings down.
And I think that the animalReiki, especially like the

(19:46):
invocation at the beginnings ofclass, every time I teach it,
when we remind ourselves thatour body is made of the earth.
And animal Reiki, it's not justabout animals and helping them
with Reiki.
It's about connecting us to theearth and to connecting our
divine self with our human self.
And so I think that helped bringme into my body.
I've lost like 40 pounds on myhand since the animal Reiki and

(20:10):
I thought, Oh, it's because I'vemoved to Ecuador, but it's not
moving to Ecuador as part of thehealing.
But I think it's had more to dowith I can be safe in my body.
This is my body.
It's my body.
I have to take care of my bodybecause my body was my enemy for
so many years.
And I didn't, I wanted to befat, so then I wouldn't be

(20:31):
attractive or not that I'm notattractive, it was like stuff.
And so it's the sexual trauma,it could be just like one thing
that happens.
It could be, cyclical or,whatever.
And then it just affectseverything.
And so the Reiki, when it's justlike, when it goes in, it starts
to release that everythingshifts.

Pamela (20:50):
Amazing.
And, let's talk about that,Karen.
I love that because let's talkabout the empowerment and just
shifting from the victimmentality, sometimes with
energetic work.
And even myself I talk about howwe often choose or chose our

(21:11):
experiences from the other sidein order to learn and grow on
this side.
And that can be confusing forpeople because they can say, I
didn't choose this.
I didn't choose to become avictim.
Like, how can you say that?
How, that wasn't my choice.
And and it can be difficult toexplain as well.

(21:33):
But Reiki, regardless of why,any of us I have been victims of
this.
Reiki can help shift us out ofthe victim.
mentality and into empowerment.
And Karen, what would you haveto say about this?
I know from your counselingbackground, you have to help

(21:55):
people understand or reframe allthe time.
So I think you'd be best toanswer that.

Karen Harrison (22:03):
I think it's a matter of looking at the trauma
and finding what have you gainedfrom the experience.
Now that isn't necessarilysomething to bring up right
away, when a person is, feelingvery much in all the emotions,
but as they start to heal, howhave you become a stronger, more

(22:26):
resilient, more compassionate,wiser person as a result of
going through this experience?

Pamela (22:36):
And, that's similar to many of the things we choose.
I have so many people I do tendto work with a lot of folks who
have been diagnosed with cancersand terminal cancers, and
usually Reiki helps them to theother side of it, but they all
say, I'm so grateful for thiscancer because of how I learned

(22:57):
and grew.
And I realized that sexualassault, It may take a little
while to get there, but do youfind that people get there to,
wow, I'm grateful this happenedbecause now I understand better?

Karen Harrison (23:12):
Some people do.
Yeah.
That would be a worthy goal outof any kind of trauma, to mine
the learning out of it so thatwe can see how we've become a
better, wiser soul.
I like to,

Karen Caig (23:31):
I said, I'm grateful you, I'm grateful for all those
experiences.
I am.
Yeah.
It was part of my preparation todo what I'm doing now.
And you too, Karen.
How can you listen?
How can you be a safe space ifyou don't know what the heck
they're talking or what they'refeeling?
It makes you more empathic.
It's like this is our collegeprep.
That was our college prepprogram for what we're doing in

(23:51):
life.
And to empower the people.
I think every one of us is hereto empower other people.
And how would we know how to dothat if we hadn't had our own
power taken, and we had to getit back.

Karen Harrison (24:05):
And also, for anyone that is an empath, and I
don't know, probably at least 75percent of people that are drawn
to Reiki are empaths.
And one of the things that Ifind useful in my work is I can
feel the emotions that aregetting cleared during this
session and know when each oneis cleared.

(24:31):
So that's very useful.
And although I can feel it, Iknow it's not mine.
And so it doesn't bother me.
I'm not like taking it in.

Pamela (24:45):
You're just, it's more of an awareness, isn't it,
Karen?
I find that too.

Karen Caig (24:48):
Karen, would you share what you do?
The Holy Fire Healing Experienceand the Timeline Technique?

Karen Harrison (24:55):
Sure, yeah, I'd like to come to, just a few
things to think about.
And that is, creating a safe andcomfortable space for the
session, of course, we do that,saying that we maintain
confidentiality and, respect forthe person and we're here to not
be judgmental, and then beingvery aware of touch and

(25:18):
communicating to the personwhere we place our hands where
we don't place our hands, ofcourse, on the breasts and the
genitals, and to let us know aspractitioners, if any touches
uncomfortable.

Pamela (25:34):
And you had somebody that, that was uncomfortable
with a touch that wasn't in whatwe would normally consider a
sensitive area, didn't you?

Karen Harrison (25:43):
Yeah.
So we were talking before thepodcast and in one session, I
had a client bring up that inthe prior session, she had been
very uncomfortable with where Iplaced my hands.
And I said, I'm so sorry, inwhat position was that?
And it was actually over theabdomen.
And I said I wish you would havespoken up.
I would have easily, adjusted myhand positions or worked over

(26:06):
the body and, because I want toempower the participant to take
charge of their body and whathappens in the session.
So it's very important that theyfeel in charge in that way.

Pamela (26:21):
And to take charge of their session.
And I know one thing that Icounsel my level one and two
students when we're just gettingstarted is always ask, do you
prefer touch or beaming?
And if somebody isn't sure, youcan just Do the typical touch on
the shoulder.
This is what touch feels like,and then back it off a few

(26:41):
inches.
This is what beaming feels like,and never be offended if
somebody wants beaming.
They're just not comfortablewith touch, and that's okay.

Karen Harrison (26:52):
Yes, very important.
And then also, it can be helpfulto teach them some grounding
techniques.
I have a grounding techniquethat I use that I've had a lot
of good success with thatinvolves bringing the earth
energy up through the body threetimes and then the earth energy
up and out through the aurathree times, clearing.

(27:14):
And I will often teach anyonethat's had some trauma that
grounding technique either atthe beginning of the session or
at the end of the session, tohelp them further clear and
release energy.

Pamela (27:30):
Maybe we'll get you to share that with us to end our
podcast, Karen.

Karen Harrison (27:34):
Okay, sure.
Sure.
And then, yeah, I just developeda specific protocol that I use
and that is starting with theholy fire healing experience,
around whatever trauma it isthat they have, and that
involves asking them where intheir body they feel the trauma.
And then if the trauma had ashape, what shape would it be?

(27:59):
If it had a color, if it had aweight, if it had a message for
them, or a sound, so identifyingthat and then doing a meditation
while I'm continuing to do theReiki energy.
And then if checking back inwith them at the end of that
meditation at the end of the 15minutes and asking them what

(28:23):
does the shape look like now?
And then if the shape is notgone, ask them to see if they
can release it to the earth orup to the higher power, and
usually they're able to do that.
And then another thing that Ilike to do is work with
emotions.
So whatever trauma they have,they don't really need to tell

(28:44):
me what happened, which is veryuseful, because that can be
triggering.

Pamela (28:51):
And that's something about the Holy Fire healing
technique is that people don'thave to tell us what they're
working on.
They can just say, I have thistrauma, can we release it?
And that's all we need to know,or I have this energy, can we
release it?
Yeah, that's it.

Karen Harrison (29:07):
Yeah.
So then I like to ask them abouttheir emotions and I got
permission to share.
The experience from one of myclients that I've had two
sessions with, and she came inwith having, been abused by a
family member, and at thebeginning of the session, the
first session I asked people torate their Shall Emotions on a

(29:30):
scale of 0 to 10, with 10 beingthe most intense and 0 being no
intensity.
And she rated lack of confidenceat a 9, self loathing, at a 10,
which is oh, that's so sad.
And then sadness at a 10 shameand guilt at an 8.

(29:52):
And during the session, we alsoworked on anger and anxiety.
And I also ended up doing well,then I do the timeline healing
that I've written about in myarticle, transforming emotions
with Reiki that's on my websiteat karenharrison.
net.
And we've included that in thepodcast notes, you guys.

(30:14):
Okay.
And I did a presentation on thatat the Reiki retreat, so I'll
link to my YouTube channel onthat.
It's also in the notes.
And then a similar article thatwas written earlier called
Lessons from Holy Fire that's onmy website.
I just work on the timeline,like imagining that scale of

(30:36):
self loathing.
being like top right.
And then I send the Holy FireReiki and all the other symbols
that I work with, including theKaurna symbols, because the
Kaurna are very helpful.
Yes.
Now we've got Zonar forspiritual anesthetic and Halu
for deep healing and manyothers, Harth filling up the

(30:56):
heart.
So I just imagine workingtimeline present all the way to
back to birth.
on it and I can just feel whereit feels stuck and work on
clearing that and may call in myspiritual resource to help and I
work with Master Healer Jesus.
So he comes in, he shows up as afireman, which I like a

(31:20):
practical Jesus, you know.
Yeah, shows up as a fireman withthe hose and he'll hose it down.
Work on clearing that and then Iwork on clearing the ancestral
lineage, because oftentimes I'malso a marriage and family
therapist.
And I'll see these patternstransfer down through
generations.
So several generations may dealwith sexual abuse or physical

(31:43):
abuse or, alcoholism, whatever.
So I'll work on ancestralpatterns.
And then I'll also work on pastlife patterns.
And then I go on to the nextemotion.
So I did two sessions of thatand one session I worked on
yesterday.
She came back after a month andwe worked on anxiety, and it was

(32:08):
a five at the beginning of thesession.
By the end of the session, itwas a zero.
We worked on anger.
It was a six at the beginning.
It dropped to a zero.
Sadness.
Went from a 7 to a 0.
Shame and guilt went from a 1.
People pleasing, Karen mentionedthat, another common side effect

(32:28):
of being abused, went from a 7to a 1.
And self loathing from a 7 to a0.
Yeah, in
the prior session, the lack of confidence
went from a nine to a one, selfloathing ten to a one and a
half, sadness ten to zero andshame and guilt eight to one.

(32:49):
So usually what happens is, thefirst session, those numbers
will drop.
a lot.
By the second session, they mayhave gone up some, they won't
have gone back up to where theywere.
And then we work on clearingthem out.
And then my goal is to get allthe numbers to stay at zero to
two.

Pamela (33:08):
And so you'll keep continue doing sessions until
the numbers stay down?

Karen Harrison (33:12):
Yeah, until the numbers stay down.
And so that's, that can, that'susually two to six, sessions.
And then it can also be veryhelpful to do the healing spirit
attachments exercise from HolyFire Reiki, because whenever
someone has been traumatizedwoundedness, Some energy that is

(33:35):
not theirs can come in throughtheir damaged energy field and
attach to them.
And it's usually energy that istrying to help them in some way.
But it's over time, it is nothelpful to have someone energy
hanging out with you.
So clearing that off, and thatmay take doing that procedure,

(33:57):
one, two or three times, tocontinue clearing that.
So those are the techniques thatI use along with just doing a
regular Reiki session that havegiven me so much success.
and working with all kinds oftrauma.

Pamela (34:15):
You say that after you finish working on the client,
like even in the same session, Ibelieve you actually go into the
ancestral lineage and.

Karen Harrison (34:24):
Yeah.
So each of those emotions.
So for example, people pleasing,I'll work from current lifetime
present all the way back tobirth, and do several passes
until I feel it clear.
And then I send that healingback through the ancestral
lineage, until I feel it clear.

(34:45):
And then I'll send it backthrough past life lineage until
I feel it clear.
And each pass is really as quickas I'm moving my hand, So I may
do like one, two, three or fourpasses on it, and I'm just doing
this kind of in my mind becauseI've got my hands usually on the

(35:10):
client or if I'm doing adistance session, I'm usually
working on a proxy of theclient, through a doll.

Pamela (35:16):
Amazing.
And, Karen Kague, I wonder ifyou could give our listeners
both of you just just the hopeor the understanding that you
are going to get side of this.
And maybe what that looks andfeels

Karen Caig (35:33):
it seems for me anyway, that it it's not just
like, this instantaneousmiraculous healing.
It there's this is, there'sother layers of things,
different experiences.
It's like you have, you have,you experience life at different
layers.
And so the, whatever's ready torelease, then we'll release.
And then it's almost like it'slike making room.

(35:54):
It's like you've got this bigknot of junk.
And when I've done Karen'stechnique that she's talking
about, and you do feel it's justwhat's that?
It's like A little bit of aknot.
So you get the, when it beginsto let go, it's almost like
a
flower opening up and then it's going to continue

(36:16):
almost like fractal, and thenyou keep clearing little things
and it gets better over time.
I guess it's taken me, it's beena 10 year process, but my gosh,
what a 10 years.
It changed everything, but Iguess it was time, but it opened
up everything and my entire lifechanged.

(36:38):
Everything changed.
It did.
And I'm still, I had someemotion about, but this is good.
The good thing is I could go oh,I have some emotion about this
and I'll let it come up and thenit just goes.
I used to be terrified to letany of it up because I thought I
would just explode or killsomebody.
If I let any of it like, so I,if you're listening and you've

(36:58):
got that, I have so much angerand no, and I thought it was
such a pacifist and so helpfuland so kind.
No, I was an angry person.
And so that even will come upsometimes Oh, I have some
frustration about this.
But the wonderful thing is thatonce you've untangled that knot,

(37:19):
once you've.
You make the decision.
I think that's part of the HolyFire experience.
It's so genius.
You have to say, are you willingto let it go?
Yes.
Whatever that is.
Yes, I'm ready.
And it's that choice, but that'spart of the empowerment.
Holy Fire really works.
No, I'm not a victim.
And I do have a choice and I dochoose to heal whatever this is.

(37:40):
I want something different.
I don't know what this is.
Maybe you're sitting out therelistening and you're thinking,
Yeah, that happened.
It wasn't that big a deal or, Idealt with that.
I'm fine.
I've had therapy.
I'm good.
I'm a tough woman.
I'm good.
But then some little thing willhappen and it comes up.
So what was my point?
My point is it's, you can do it.
You just think you have to bewilling to like, I need

(38:02):
something different.
I'm unhappy.
I'm miserable.
And it's a surrendering like to,I think that's what helps the
energy come in.
So you say, okay, Reiki help.
I don't know.
I don't know what needs tohappen, but you need to do
something.
Help me.
And you've got spiritual alliesall around.
You've got.

(38:22):
Everybody's been just waitingfor you to go okay, I'm tired.
Can you do something now?
And they will.
And it's going to happen.
It's going to happen slowly.
It's going to happen so weird.
I can remember after we got theHoly Fire III upgrade, I can
remember there was a song thatwas a big trigger for me.
And I remember I was cleaningthe house and I was just singing

(38:44):
the song.
And then I realized like,where's that pain?
Where did it go?
I didn't even know I healed it.
I didn't know that it had beentaken away.
Wow.
Yeah, it's just, it happenspretty effortlessly when you
just, when you allow it.
Yeah, that's amazing.

Karen Harrison (39:02):
And I want to say, I think that's a good point
that, we may do a chunk ofhealing at a time.
Does that mean it's entirelyhealed?
Probably not.
As we go through life, thenmaybe there's another aspect of
it that comes to our awarenessthat we weren't aware of before.
And it's okay, now, this aspectof our trauma is presenting to

(39:23):
be healed, so it is a process.
And I also want to say that theway that I found of working with
it is certainly not the only wayof working with it.
No.
I have a way that I found thatworks for me.
Many other ways of working withthe energy will work.

(39:44):
I think Reiki guides us to theways of working with it that are
right for us.
And so I just want to validatethat.
If you're working with sexualabuse in a different way than
what I said, that's an equallyvalid way.
Cause a, just a gentle Reikisession can also do the same

(40:05):
thing that I am doing.

Pamela (40:07):
Yeah.
And I haven't done it with thetimeline technique.
I only learned that from you,Karen, a few years ago.
But just using the Holy Firehealing experience.
And I also, like you, found thatthe spirit release process was
important as well.
And had success with that, butthat being said I'm, I think I'm

(40:27):
going to ask you to lead usthrough.
through your process, as Imentioned, and the timeline
process as we end today.
But before we do that, is thereany other advice that you guys
would have for either Reikipractitioners working with this
or people personally workingwith this?

Karen Caig (40:46):
One more thing is we do in the Animal Reiki 1 and 2,
the Garden of Forgiveness.
Oh, yeah.
Experience in that with theAnimal Reiki frequency.
And that was transformative forme as well.
And it works well with clients.

Pamela (41:02):
Yeah, good to connect with,

Karen Caig (41:04):
with the earth.
It's that Mother Earth energyand letting go, being ready to
forgive.
And for me, it turned out to beforgive myself more.
So yeah, throw that out theretoo.

Pamela (41:22):
That is so interesting.
And that does release guilt andgrief and shame and blame and
compassion.

Karen Caig (41:28):
Frequently in the class, we're talking about.
what we carry in regards to ourpets, Oh, did I put him to sleep
too early?
Or did I make him suffer toolong?
Or, that kind of stuff's relatedto pets, but it's also that
Mother Earth energy foryourself.
So it was helpful with sexualtrauma for me also.
Thank you.
And the grounding.

(41:48):
Karen, is that, I think that'swhat Karen was going to do is
Karen was going to

Pamela (41:51):
bring us through the grounding and maybe she could
even bring us through a atimeline or a whole, or I could
bring us through a Holy Firehealing experience as well,
which, whichever.

Karen Harrison (42:03):
Okay.
The other thing that I think isimportant for anyone working
with trauma is to be able togently, ask or suggest if the
person has done any counselingaround this and possibly to have
some counseling resources thatif the person has not worked
with a counselor, to suggestthat could be helpful in

(42:26):
conjunction with this.
Many of the people that I dothis Reiki healing work with
have already done a lot ofcounseling and they've cleared a
lot of the trauma already, butthere's still an energetic
residue that is left in thebody.
So that's the part that they arereleasing and healing.

Pamela (42:49):
That's a good point, Karen.
And I've actually had clients,we'd be working on something
else and remember abuse.
that they had just shut away andlocked away so tight.
And so I do keep I, I've trainedseveral counselors to Reiki,
which is fortunate because I'veasked them if they would be open

(43:10):
to referrals.
And they give me their contactinformation, their cards, and I
am able to pass those along whenthat comes up.
Yeah, thank you.

Karen Harrison (43:21):
Okay, so what is it that you were wanting to lead
through?
I don't know how much time youwanted to take.
We don't

Pamela (43:28):
have to spend the full time in silence.
We can just spend about four orfive minutes in silence but I'm
wondering if you would leadpeople through the grounding and
then maybe just follow with one,
one
sort of timeline experience or holy fire healing
experience, how it just andtaking us through one of those.

(43:50):
So it's something that we canfeel and then perhaps feel a bit
more confident after readingyour article to work with
others.
Is
that possible, Karen?

Karen Harrison (44:02):
Sure.
Normally I do the timeline afterI've done the Holy Fire healing
experience.
We can do that.
So do you want to lead a shortHoly Fire healing experience
then?
And then I'll do an example ofone of the timeline processes.
And then how about end with agrounding meditation?

Pamela (44:22):
And end with the grounding, bringing the
grounding up through.
That sounds perfect.
Thank you.
I'm going to invite anybodylistening to, if you're driving
push pause or pull over but tojust go ahead and close your
eyes, and just activate yourReiki energy again, by placing

(44:43):
your hands in Gassho, and thenjust placing them comfortably on
your body, wherever you feelguided.
And breathe and just understandthat Karen and I are sending you
Reiki now as well as you processthis.
I
invite you to imagine that it's a beautiful warm sunny
day and that you're walkingthrough a trail in a beautiful

(45:07):
forest.
As you walk along and as youbreathe into yourself, you
breathe in the life essence ofthe forest as the energy of the
earth moves up through thebottoms of your feet.
As you walk along, you see atrail that goes off to the left,

(45:28):
and you decide to follow thatpath.
Following that path, you come toa clearing in the forest, and in
the middle of the clearing is asmall hill covered with soft
grass and beautiful wildflowers.
Imagine that you're climbing upthe hill and that you can feel

(45:51):
the grass and the wildflowersbrushing against your legs.
And when you get to the top ofthe hill, lie down, gazing up at
the sky.
And as you gaze up at the sky, abeautiful beam of light pierces
the clouds that are above you.

(46:14):
And this light shines downdirectly upon you and all around
you and it feels verycomfortable and warm and safe
and you recognize right awaythis is no ordinary light.
This is a light that comes fromthe highest heavens, the light
of Reiki and it's here to takecare of you.

(46:40):
Go ahead and notice in your bodywhere any trauma may exist and
if you're not sure it's okayjust to guess.

(47:02):
And ask yourself if that traumahad a shape, what shape would it
have?
What color would it be?
What would the surface texturelook like?
Would it be heavy?

(47:22):
Would it make a sound?
Is it more of a sensation?
Or does it have sensation?
And does it have a message foryou?

(47:44):
And then just ask yourself, Ifyou're willing to let it go,
because you get to direct this,you may not be willing to let it
go entirely.
But if you're not, are youwilling to let a percentage of
it go?
And what percentage are youwilling to release today?

(48:08):
You don't have to do anything toearn this.
You simply have to be willing.
And then Reiki will do the workon your behalf.
The light that surrounds you onthe shape for a moment.
I invite you to focus on ityourself with a willingness to

(48:30):
let it go and then turn yourfocus to the light itself.
And as you do, the light thatsurrounds you begins to guide
you.

(48:53):
Go ahead and follow the guidanceof the light for the next
several minutes.
When it's time to come back,Karen will lead us through the
next techniques.
I'll let you know when it's timeto come back.

(54:02):
Now, Karen, I'll turn theprocess over to you.

Karen Harrison (54:07):
Alright, so call to mind any shame and guilt that
you might have, and tune intoit, and think of it on a scale
of zero to ten, with ten beingthe most intensity, and zero
having no intensity.

(54:31):
And just pick a number to ratethe level of intensity that you
feel in this moment on shame andguilt.
And then I've got my Holy Fireactivated, my Trio Life Symbol
from Animal Reiki, and all mysymbols, and all my Karuna

(54:52):
symbols.
And now I'm imagining a timelineof the present for any of the
listeners of Shame and Guilt.
And just working on Clearingthat in the present, back
through the past, and clearingit, and for anything that's

(55:25):
stacked, just calling on thehighest power, your spiritual
resources, my spiritualresources, to help clear and
release that.
And I just like to work withMaster Healer Jesus.
You can work with whoever youlike.
Work on clearing that from thepresent all the way back to

(55:49):
birth.
And now clearing that backthrough ancestral lines,
clearing out ancestral patternsof shame and guilt, anything
that you might have carried intothis lifetime, just as a result

(56:10):
of being a product of theancestral DNA.
And clearing that back throughthe ancestors.
And
now clearing it back through past life patterns.
So any past lives that you'vehad that involved any shame and
guilt, working on clearing thatout, so that it's cleared all

(56:37):
the way through all thesedifferent dimensions.
Okay.
And then now take a moment tocheck in with your emotional

(56:59):
intensity number on the shameand guilt.
And see where you're at.
Now
mind you, this is just one of the emotions
associated with abuse, and whileit's most helpful to clear out a
number of emotions to get thebest effect, this is what we can

(57:20):
do now.
So just see where you're at, andsee if you've gotten any change,
and if you have, great, and ifnot, that's okay.
It may come later, or there maybe some more work you need to do
on this to release it.

(57:40):
And then sometimes we also thenintend to fill it in with some
of the holy fire lights, whichare simply higher consciousness
energy.
So just let's imagine the lightof self acceptance coming in and
flooding through that entiretimeline.
The light of self acceptancecoming in and just illuminating

(58:02):
that entire timeline, bathing itall and bathing you in love and
self acceptance.
Filling you up.

(58:24):
Now let's just imagine that weare now giving thanks for the
session and the healing thatyou've experienced in bringing
this session to a close beforewe move into the grounding
exercise.
We thank you for your work withthis healing.
We affirm this healing iscontinuing on the spiritual,

(58:46):
mental, physical, and emotionalrealms long after our time
together today is through.
We give thanks to you forparticipating in this.
We give thanks to each of us asthe practitioners.
And you can open your eyeswhenever you're ready.
And let's also do a Kenyoku drybathing to clear, brush,

(59:13):
intending to release anything wemight have picked up.
And so that's with your righthand

Pamela (59:19):
at your left shoulder and Reiki activated, brush it
across to your right hip, thenyour left to the right and right
to the left, again making an X,and then go back up to your
shoulders.
and brush out to the ends ofyour fingertips.
And for those watching, Karen'sgoing to demonstrate, but I just
wanted to say it verbally forpeople that are listening.

Karen Harrison (59:41):
Yes, thank you, Pam.
All right, so the grounding ifyou want, you can draw a Reiki
symbol at your feet and overyour head.
And if you don't have Reiki yet,that's okay.
Just imagine yourself filledwith love all around you.
And now intend to bring earthenergy up through your feet to
your head on an inhale.

(01:00:04):
And I like to do the hand motionjust to help the energy to move,
and then exhale sending theenergy down through your body
and down deep into the ground,intending to release anything
that needs to go.
Inhale up and exhale down.

(01:00:25):
I like taking up energetic trashand emptying it into Mother
Earth who's grateful to receive.
Inhale up, and exhale down,releasing and clearing your
body.
And now this next time we'regoing to go up and out, clearing

(01:00:45):
our aura.
Up out your crown, down aroundyour body, clearing your aura
down to the ground, anythingthat you're carrying in your
aura and up, out, down andaround clearing your aura down

(01:01:07):
to the ground and again, up,out, down.
And that's it.
grounding your body and clearinggrounding and clearing your
aura.

Pamela (01:01:27):
That was amazing.

Karen Caig (01:01:29):
Love that.
Thank you, Karen.

Pamela (01:01:30):
Thank you, Karen.
Yeah.
And
thank you both of you.
I think that was wonderful.
And I hope that is helpful toany of you listening.
Thank you so much for showing uptoday.
We appreciate you.
And we hope you have a beautifulweek.
Keep spreading that beautifullight of Reiki wherever you go

(01:01:52):
in the world.
Namaste.
Thank you.
Namaste.
Thank you, everyone.
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