February 15, 2023 • 67 mins
Join Pam and Karen as they explore the magical world of Reiki and how it can help you connect with the divine. Discover the power of asking for help and the importance of developing trust and alignment with your inner guidance.
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Pam (00:07):
Hi, and welcome to the Reiki from the Farm Podcast,
brought to you by me, Pam AllenLoblaw from Hidden Brook Farm.
I am a scientist, abusinesswoman, and a licensed
Reiki master teacher with theInternational Center for Reiki.
each week in this podcast,you'll be entertained as you
learn about a wide variety ofrelevant Reiki topics helping
(00:30):
you become a more knowledgeableand effective Reiki
practitioner.
We caution you though thispodcast may also dramatically
improve your life.
And we are so happy that you'rehere.
(00:57):
On this week's podcast, I'mtalking with Karen Keg about a
question that we get a lot,which is Reiki guidance, and
we're gonna talk about bothaspects of it, both working with
a Reiki guide and how to findout who your guide is and that
sort of thing.
And or how to choose a guide andalso what Reiki guidance looks
like and feels and so on.
(01:18):
Welcome Karen.
I'm so glad you're here.
Thank
Karen (01:20):
you for having me again.
I love being
Pam (01:22):
here, I love having you here,
Karen (01:25):
so you'll be back.
Pam (01:26):
Before we get too far in, I'd just like to let everybody
know about some classes that arecoming up a little later on this
month in February, I'm gonna beheading to Australia and just
outside of Canberra and Royal atmy friend's beautiful.
We are going to be having the RM A classes, which means those
are the classes that you need tobecome a professional member of
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the Reiki MembershipAssociation, the I C R T Reiki
Membership Association.
I do also want to announce thatWe do through the Reiki
Membership Association.
We do now have Reiki membershipinsurance in Australia.
So for those Australianslistening, and we also do have
it in Canada and the UnitedKingdom as well now, as well as
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the European Union.
So I know that for some of youfolks who are part of the
Australian Reiki Association,you need your classes in person,
but you would really like tohave your Holy Fire Reiki and be
a part of the I C R T.
So I am going to be offeringin-person classes there, and
I'll also be able to offer themonline, and I'm also going to be
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offering an animal Reiki levelone and two I C R T animal
Reiki, level one and two whileI'm there.
So I do hope you can join us forthose.
I'll be back in April offeringclasses here on the farm as well
as online full lineup, includinganimal communication.
And in May I'll Beit theNortheast Reiki retreat in New
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York.
It's not sold out yet and myanimal Reiki level one and two
class isn't sold out.
So if you'd like to have animalReiki class from one of the
course authors, I'd love to haveyou join us.
Karen, what have you got comingup?
Karen (03:15):
I've got.
At the end of February, I've gotwhat Heki I have animal and I
had a really good teacher, PamSo I have animal Reiki master
coming up and regular masteranimal one and two all at the
end of February and March, Ihave all four classes that I
offer besides coon.
I have one and two masteranimal, one and two and master.
(03:36):
And then April I'm hoping tomove to Ecuador, so I'm gonna be
lightening it up there.
That's busy.
Another exci.
Yeah, this coming April.
That's what my, that's what myguides keep telling me.
They keep telling me April andI'm like, Okay, but I have a
lease through July, so I'm notsure how that's gonna work, but
I, that's what we're talkingabout today.
I'm learning to trust thatguidance.
So I'm planning for April cuzthat's what I keep hearing.
(03:59):
And then in June, I amco-leading a retreat in
Wisconsin with my friend KathyMilowski.
And the dates for that you canfind all of that information on
Reiki hyphen institute.com.
And you can sign up for thatwellness retreat.
It's not a Reiki retreat, butit's a wellness retreat.
So we will have tables set up todo Reiki if you want, but we're
gonna be focusing on like soundhealing.
(04:20):
And it's mainly, it's a heal tohealer retreat.
It's, we forget to take care ofourselves sometimes.
So that's June the eighththrough the 11th, and you can
register for that at WisconsinReiki dot
Pam (04:30):
com.
I love it.
And we will have links in the.
In the podcast notes to yourwebsite as well if people to,
for people to find you so well.
Guys, let's just close our eyesand bring our hands into Gassho
for a moment and just activateour Reiki energy, just feeling
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that connection with the heavensand with the earth.
Just imagine sinking your rootsdown into the earth so deeply
that you meet with thegroundwater in the water table,
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and then go a little further tothe bedrock and just feeling the
stability of that.
So many people think Reikiguidance is in the e.
But in fact, it's very practicaland realistic, and it's all
around us.
(05:40):
I'm just activating your Reikisymbols and just allowing your
chakras to align so that you canlisten with your chakras and
with all of the disparate partsof yourself in alignment, your
head with your heart, yourintellect and intuition.
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We are blessed to be of alineage of light bringers today
who are creating wellness on theearth, and we invite the energy
to please guide me and heal meso that I may be of creator help
to myself and to others.
Oh, and Namaste.
(06:33):
I don't know about you, but thatjust always
Karen (06:37):
settles me into
Pam (06:38):
the energy.
Just even the instant that myhands come together in Gassho.
the energy starts flowing andeverything feels more manageable
and yes.
I don't know.
Nicer in some way.
Karen I'm
glad
Karen (06:52):
that you rooted us in the earth because we do forget that,
that a lot of the guidance comesfrom this plane.
Yeah.
Pam (06:59):
It's all around us.
It's all around us everywhere.
There's one thing that I teachin my animal communication
class, and that is thatoftentimes when animals come
across our path, and not ananimal you see every day
necessarily, but an animalthat's, I normally don't see a
dog there and there's a dogthere, or, oh look, there's a
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deer, or there's a pheasant or ahawk or something.
Goodness.
A fox just crossed my path andthere's messages behind that.
I encourage people to look atStephen Farmer's book on animal
spirit guides, and I even thepocket guide to Spirit Animals,
I actually keep it on my phoneon Kindle so that I can look up
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the meaning of these animalsightings, even when I travel,
because they're alwayssignificant and Steven Farmer
has categorized, if this animalshows up, it might mean one of
these six things.
And I know you have a specialanimal spirit guide that kind of
lets you know when you're on theright track.
Karen (08:02):
Different.
So is it Steven, s t e v e n?
I don't have to Steven, Dr.
Steven.
I've used Ted Andrews.
And Ted Andrews
Pam (08:09):
has a wonderful book, but I have,
Karen (08:11):
I'm gonna check out
Pam (08:12):
the Steven Farmer.
Okay.
Even Farmers.
What I like about Stevens, Ilove Ted Andrew's book as well,
and it has more birds.
So I do pull his book out aswell.
And I'm trying to think of what,hi, it's called Animal Speak.
What is Animal Speak?
Karen (08:25):
Yeah, animal Speak.
It's over there on my shelf.
Pam (08:27):
It's on my shelf too, but I don't have it right in front of
me.
So I was going from memory andbut Steven Farmer, he actually
used to be married to DorianVirtue at one time.
And oh, he, but he He really hereally very succinctly breaks
down if this animal shows up, itmight mean this and that sort of
thing.
And I do notice that as I'mdoing Reiki sessions here in my
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beautiful Reiki room, which issurrounded by windows, there's.
There are two very specialtrees, a little butternut tree
that I planted and a beautifulyellow birch that's been there
forever.
And specific birds will land onthe trees to give a specific
message to certain clients.
Sometimes it'll be a flock ofstarlings comes and if I'm not
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paying attention they'll comeand knock into the window so
that I pay attention to whatbirds are there.
Sometimes it'll be chickies,blue jays every, very rarely,
cuz we don't have cardinalshere.
But twice during Reiki sessions,I saw cardinals.
There's one student inparticular that five or six
eagles fly by every time.
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And eagles don't usually hangout like that.
Karen (09:37):
no.
Very unusual.
Pam (09:41):
But with that particular client she'll lay down on the
Reiki table and there will befive or six eagles going by.
And so
Karen (09:50):
a crow just came.
Whoop, right by my window.
I'm sorry.
No, that's all right.
So we would then
Pam (09:55):
look up the meaning of crow, and that's just a
wonderful way to get guidancefrom the earth.
And you have a mantis that shows
Karen (10:04):
up.
I do.
And that has been I've alwaysbeen really connected to spiders
when I see spider, I know I'msupposed to be, of course, you
can see spiders over, but ifit's like something was oh,
okay.
Or, really unusual.
I know I'm supposed to bewriting, that's my message that
I'm supposed to be writing,because in the Native American
traditions I looked this up.
They thought, oh, it's writingmessages.
(10:24):
And of course, if you readCharlotte's Web in second grade
the way I did, like some pig,remember Charlotte wrote in the
web.
But it's a message to mespecific you're supposed to be
writing.
You need to be writing, doingsomething creative.
Grandmother Spider, likeweaving, creating something.
And when I see a mantis thenthat has only been the last
couple of years and we havepraying Mantis is in Arkansas,
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but it's unusual.
So the last guidance I just got,it's a special totem for me.
And I looked it up, like what?
It's a long story, but when theyshowed up in my life, I was
like, this is weird.
What is a praying mantis?
And they're odd looking littlethings.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they teach, you know whatthey they teach patience because
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they can sit still for a longtime, which I can't But they
teach patience.
And they're when, and then whenit's time, boom, they're fast.
They.
I love it.
This whole decision to move toEcuador has been insane.
I asked specifically, I wasfeeling guided that I needed it
kept Ecuador kept popping up onmy radar and people said, why
are you moving to Ecuador?
And I don't wanna say becausethe manes showed up.
(11:28):
That sounds insane, right?
I have been looking at moving toEcuador.
I started researching it 30years ago, but then wow, it
started coming up on the radar.
So this is how guidance works.
It started popping up.
All these little, it justrandom.
So there's the first step aboutfollowing guidance is n there is
no such thing as an accident.
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You just have to pay attention.
And there are no coincidences.
I started seeing things aboutEcuador.
Ecuador pops up everywhere.
So I asked specifically, if I amsupposed to sell everything and
move to another country, thenI'm gonna need some clear
guidance.
You're gonna send me a Manus.
It's in me a mantis, let me seea mantis cuz I hadn't seen one
in a year.
And that was right before wewent to the Reiki retreat.
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So we went to Prescott and therewas a mantis above the bathtub
on the window outside.
And so I called Kathy, I waslike, Kathy, look, there's a,
she's oh good, yay.
And then we were waiting andgreeting people in Sedona at the
Mago retreat and in that littlearea before you go into the
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desk, and we were just waitingfor the next group of people to
arrive.
And I look up and there'sAmanda's hey.
So I get her down, talk to herlike you, it's hot in here.
You need to go outside.
So I put her outside.
Two days later, Jill Till and Iare working on our presentation
and the man from the desk is onthe floor.
I said, what are you doing?
He.
He said, oh, there's a prayingManis in here on the floor.
I said, oh, it's mine.
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I said, come here.
Put her outside.
And then when I got home, I knowthis sounds crazy I do live in
Arkansas in the Ozark Mountains,but it's not like Total Wildlife
everywhere.
I get home at one 30 in themorning and I'm my neighbor who
was taking care of my catsinstead of turning my lamps off
at the wall switch, she hadturned them off.
So I had to do that.
And I went, it was one 30 in themorning.
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I had just driven from Tulsa,Oklahoma.
I was tired and caught my eye.
I look up and there's a mantison the ceiling.
I'm like, really?
So then I'm climbing up andgetting it down and and then two
more times within three days,there was a mantis in my
bedroom.
And yeah it, I it needs to be tothe point where you're like this
isn't, in fact, there's a videoof it on Facebook.
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And I'm going like, this isinsane.
I'm like, okay, I get it.
I get it.
And as soon as I announce I'mmoving to Ecuador, then I stop
seeing him.
So I'm like, okay, I got it.
Pam (13:44):
It's really interesting.
I find that too, like peoplesay, people are always asking
us, Karen you talk about Reikiguidance, but what does that
mean?
And and how does it sound orlook to you?
And I really think it'sdifferent than what people
think.
Like it's not very often is itlike a conversation with God.
Occasionally that happens, butthat's not usually, mostly my
(14:07):
guidance comes in a lot likeyours.
Like maybe I'll ask a question.
As I'm doing Reiki or in aprayer.
And William Rand actuallydescribed this when he was asked
the question at a class that Iwas assisting him with recently.
What does your guidance looklike?
And he said, usually I'll askthe question and then I'll let
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go of any attachment to theoutcome.
whatever.
And he said, usually the answershows up later on when I'm not
even thinking about it and I'mdoing something else.
So it's it's not so much of thatback and forth.
And that's a lot of times whathappens for me.
Although if I'm on a walk innature and my mind is really
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quiet, it is a little more.
It's a little more Hey, God, andI converse with God and what's,
what is this about or what'sthat about?
And I do find in those reallyquiet, more meditative, natural
moments, I can, as I'm walking,I can get a little bit of a, of
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an idea, but it's not aconversation.
It's more, I get more ofunknowing, or it even maybe
sounds like my own thoughts, butI, I've learned to discern that
it's not my thought that it'sactually coming from somewhere
else.
Karen (15:27):
People should pay attention to their, every,
everybody has clear senses.
Yes.
Some people, when you said thatI can tell it's not me because
I'll get like a chill or a aClair sentience.
I feel it in my body.
Oh, I just, I feel that.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the way to go, that's it.
Or some people hear, yeah, somepeople are more clairvoyant.
(15:52):
Some people just know.
Yeah.
That's biblical, isn't it?
Be still a no, that I'm God, youjust, you're, you, if you get
quiet, like you're saying, likeif you're a walk in nature,
something that'll quiet that,that you talking in your head,
right?
Oh, your friend's you should dothis.
You be careful of that, yougotta get away from all that.
And then the guidance is there.
(16:13):
It's mainly about you.
Here's this where Reiki helps.
It helps you get clear and inalignment so that you can
discern.
Pam (16:23):
Oh and there's a divine element to the guidance from
Reiki as well that I find isnever harmful.
And, I've seen people throughoutmy life say, I'm gonna do this
cra, this, whatever, this crazything.
And and I don't know that it'salways coming from a place of
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divine guidance, sometimes someof the things that people do are
not from divine guidance, and sothey're not in their best
interests.
But when you bring Reiki intothe mix there's that divine
element.
To the energy that you can tapinto.
And so you get to tap intodivine guidance.
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And what I think the differenceis that, at any given point in
time, heading in a certaindirection may look appealing or
may look like the place youshould go or the thing that you
should do.
And yet there's, what I'vealways noticed is divine
guidance comes from a littlehigher up so it can see the
(17:27):
whole picture instead of justthe small segment Yeah.
That you in at that moment.
And so divine guidance can helpyou almost play the long game.
Do what's gonna be best for youin the long run as opposed to
what would be expedient or bestfor you right now.
Do you know what I mean?
And yes, and divine aspect ofit, it can't cause harm.
(17:48):
So even something like going toEcuador That's probably not
gonna show up for somebody who'sjust taken a Reiki level one and
two class.
Like I think that the guidancekind of, we build on learning to
follow.
Yes.
Karen (18:03):
What, and I was, I think I mentioned before we started
that when we first, when I firsttook Reiki one and two in Reiki
too, when we talk about use thedistance symbol to connect Yeah.
With a spirit guide.
And I was like, what are youtalking about Seriously?
like, I was like, I didn't growup in church.
I was taught to pray the Lord'sPrayer and that was all that you
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weren't supposed to ask.
And Jesus, we just asked thatyou help our football team win
tonight.
We were not supposed to ask forthings like that.
I'm sorry.
I grew up in Texas.
That's what we pray, just let usgo to the state championship and
yeah.
So I was taught that, you'resupposed to give thanks, just
pray the Lord's Prayer.
And then, but as far as likeconnecting with a.
A spirit guy or an angel or a,anything like that, or
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connecting with, I thought Idon't need Reiki to ask Jesus
for anything and I didn'tunderstand until much later.
I thought, oh, okay.
It's not like I'm using thedistance symbol like, Jesus, you
there, it's not like I'm usingit like that to connect, but
that I am using Reiki to clearmyself and raise my vibration.
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I feel like I'm using it tobring myself up a little bit and
then I don't have to worryabout, is this really good
guidance?
Is this like a, yeah, secondheaven entity trying to
manipulate me?
I don't have to worry about allthat because I have Reikied
myself and I have raised myvibration up here, which kind of
helps.
Then from, I would say likehigher spiritual beings that are
maybe trying to help.
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And you have to ask, that's theother thing.
Pam (19:37):
Yes, you do have to ask for help.
You have to ask, because peoplenever go against your free will.
So you do have to be open toreceiving the guidance.
Karen (19:44):
Yeah.
And then so when you, but you'relike, okay I'm clear.
I'm not, I'm up here.
What you got?
It's that kind of a I'mlistening.
Yeah, I'm listening.
What have you got?
And then that helps with thatconnection a little better.
So that's what I think theymeant.
And I wrote a whole blog abouthaving to ask, I don't know if
anybody else struggles withthis, but I'm extremely
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independent and they say extremeindependence is a trauma
response.
Yeah.
And I'm not asking for helpbecause cuz nobody's gonna help
me and then I'll just have myfeelings hurt.
I was just coming from thatpoint of view and I was like,
oh, didn't you help?
I can do this by myself.
about the age fifties.
Yeah.
How does, how's that working outfor you?
Not so great Asking.
It's so much easier now causeyou put yourself into a, but
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that's all from Reiki.
Put yourself into alignment.
Ask for the guidance, thenlisten and watch and oh, and
then you will know.
You really will know, but youhave to ask for the guidance,
for the help.
Pam (20:40):
That's right.
And so that's where that prayerthat I, in the invocation,
please guide me and heal me sothat I might be of greater
service to myself and others.
That's a prayer that WilliamRand uses every day.
And so then I thought that's agood idea.
I started using it every day.
A lot of my too students use itevery day.
You use it every
Karen (20:56):
day, and it's easy.
It's not oh, guide me.
It's just it's just kill me andguide me so that I might be of
greater service.
It's simple and it's just
Pam (21:04):
that simple.
And you talk about asking and Iknow I heard Colleen Benelli
explain it once in a way thatmade so much sense to me, and
she said, anybody can ask.
We've been taught to ask, we'vebeen taught to pray, we've been
taught to ask.
What we've never necessarilybeen taught is how to receive.
And Reiki gives us not only anavenue to go ahead and ask the
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question, but it also gives us away to receive the answer, to
receive the energy, to manifestthe response and so on.
So Reiki does give us thatopportunity to both.
Ask the question and receive theresponse, whatever that might
be.
And I think that's why so manypeople with Reiki noticed these
wonderful coincidences happeningin their lives.
(21:53):
And Karen, I remember readingone of the, my earlier spiritual
books was The CelestineProphecy.
Oh, I love that.
Love that book.
And I read that in my twenties.
And I remember one of the, oneof the underlying themes is that
there are no coincidences.
Like everything that happens inyour life happens for a purpose.
And you said like you keptseeing Ecuador.
(22:14):
That's what will happen to me.
I'll every time I turn around,like just something simple I,
every time I turned around backin January of 2019, I kept
seeing Marie Condo.
And I thought wait, my home ispretty nice.
I don't really need that.
And.
Then I thought, but I keptseeing it.
So I said okay I'll watch hershows.
(22:34):
So I watched her shows and I waslike, maybe I do need that.
And then I read her book andthen I came home and for six
months I just gutted my health
Karen (22:42):
That's a simple
Pam (22:43):
one.
But also, with the licensedteacher program, I say that I
get a nudge and Yeah, you saythat a lot.
I got, I say that.
Thank you.
Nudge a nudge.
And I think I call it a nudgebecause the, you mentioned the
different Claires and I talkabout this with my animal
communication course.
Because actually if you doreally wanna open up.
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Pathway to guidance.
That's what we do in the animalcommunication course, is we
activate the intuition in a mostpronounced way, and then we help
you understand it.
And then we give you a tool tohelp you develop the discernment
to understand, understand whatyou're receiving.
And so we talk about theClaires, that some people are
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clairvoyant, meaning that theysee.
And so people like that mighthave vivid dreams about
something or they might, intheir meditation, they might
maybe see a movie or a pictureor something unfold, or they may
even just see colors, but thatmight have a meaning.
And then we have people whohear, who are clairvoyant or
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Claire audience.
And I sometimes think that's oneof the more difficult ones to
develop, only because oursociety talks about believes
that if you hear voices, you'recrazy.
Karen (24:00):
You're crazy And it's, that'll share that with
everybody.
Of course, now this is on apodcast, but yes.
Pam (24:05):
No, it's predominant.
And I wished I'd marked down thestudy, but there was a study
that was done at a a reallynicely designed study.
I thought they had 256 peoplethat they pre-screened to ha
that they had no mental illness.
And then they sent them todifferent places and like
psychiatrists, psychologists,counselors, hospitals
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psychiatric units, all that.
And they said, we want you to goin and we want you to answer
every question honestly, exceptsay you hear voices just
somewhere in there.
Like in the course of that, justmention that you hear voices and
they I think over 90% of themwere diagnosed with at least one
(24:47):
mental illness.
And they'd already beenpre-screened as having had none.
And it was over 50% of them werediagnosed with more than one.
Mental wow.
Illness or mental condition.
And so that's just reallypredominant in our society.
So
Karen (25:02):
a lot of, I don't wonder, nobody wants to listen to their
guidance.
And if you culturally tellingyou that you're nuts, if you're
hearing guidance if you can hearvoices
Pam (25:12):
or hear, that's right.
And so that's really playedinto, I think when we look at,
if you look at.
Our culture when it was moreprimitive, when we had to hunt,
you had to follow guidance.
That's how
Karen (25:23):
you hunted, right?
Pam (25:24):
You looked for guidance from everywhere and, trackers
and things like that.
And one of the things in theanimal communication classes, we
have to open that up again.
We have to, and we have tounlearn some things in order to
open the pathway again.
And but clear audience can betricky.
And so a lot of people who haveclear audience, but who, even if
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you are comfortable with hearingyour guidance, if that exists
within your culturalconditioning, there might be
discomfort there.
Yeah.
And so a lot of people will havetin.
or ringing in their ears.
And that's because they'vethey're not tuned into the
frequency where they canactually hear the guidance.
And those are people that areclear ent.
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And we also have clear thinking.
And that can be a littledifficult to tell.
Is that, and that's, we callthat clear intellect.
Is that my thought?
Or is that somebody else'sthought?
Mm-hmm.
Else's thought.
There's clear imagination.
Which creatives have they?
The in your intuition or your,the energy can work with you
through your imagination.
And these are the writers in thethe people who create songs and
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music and art of any kind.
A lot of these folks have clearimagination and they're the way
show I think, of the worldbecause they can see what's not
already there.
They can imagine what's notalready there.
We have clear Salent, Clairetasting, Claire Ency, Claire
touching Clear empathy, feeling,being able to feel.
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What are some of the others thatI'm Oh, clear cognizance, which
is just knowing, and you don'tknow how, and there's also clear
sentience, meaning not just Ifeel the emotions of others, but
like if you're ill, I can feelyour illness in my body and that
can I, I used to have that and Iactually asked for that to
change because that wasuncomfortable.
It's hard to be a Reikipractitioner
Karen (27:12):
and feel everybody's pain It really is.
That's
Pam (27:15):
not I, and that, and, when I did ask for that to change,
what it did was it opened upclairvoyance instead, which
wasn't open for me.
And what I noticed, Karen, andI'm just gonna ask you to jump
in and say and what you havenoticed.
What I noticed is that when Istarted my Reiki journey, my
Claire's or my intuition, Wasthere, but it was really in its
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infancy and it's reallydeveloped over time.
And as it's developed more, likeI started off with clear
Cognizant, which is clearknowing, and I didn't trust it.
So I, basically I didn't havevery much there.
And clear empathy.
Clear, just feeling emotions,clear emotions.
And so I didn't really know howto trust it.
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And then I had also had the, Idiscovered I also had the Clair
sentience where I could feel inmy body what was happening with
somebody else.
And when I asked that to change,it changed out for clairvoyance,
which was a picture.
And, with that, then I could doanimal communication.
But it has gradually opened andnow, you have access, you gain
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access to more and more.
The more of your intuition, themore that Reiki that you do.
What have you found?
Yeah, you do.
Karen (28:31):
And then, so if people who are ju, if people are
listening and they're juststarting their Reiki journey,
I'm, it's know that what Reikiis doing is it's helping you
clear up those layers of stuffthat you need to heal and let go
of.
And to, with the holy firelineage, we talk about return to
your authentic self.
We know, like Pam said, likeprimitive peoples.
We know a lot, we survived, andit comes back.
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If you're ever, if you're everwalking by yourself in a bad
neighborhood, oh yeah, all thosesenses come back.
you're picking up stuff aboutthat guy on the corner.
You don't know how you're knowthat, but you just gonna I don't
know, but I'm just feeling likehe's, all of that comes alive
when you are in danger, it's allthere.
Of course, you don't wanna livein a hyper-aware state like that
all the time, but Reiki willclear off all the stuff so that
you can return to.
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A state of groundedness.
And again, that Pam, that's soimportant that you take us down
and ground yourself in theearth.
You are, you're here betweenheaven and earth.
We really are.
These channels, between the,like an electromagnetic channel
here.
And we can, and sometimes I getguidance by just opening, and
I'll ask a question and I'lljust write,
Pam (29:38):
oh, what comes through?
I journal three pages everymorning from Julia Cameron's the
Artist's Way, and I'll, at theend of my three pages, I'm like,
oh, now I see what my prioritiesare for the day.
Now I see where I need to gowith this question.
And it's
Karen (29:54):
not magic, it's just, it's all about Reiki helps with
all of these.
He helps with guidance and thisis what, I guess maybe in Reiki
too.
I wasn't ready to co comprehendall this yet.
Ask Reiki to help ask, whenWilliam says Ask Reiki, I used
to think.
It's easier just to ask youwhat's the answer?
But what he meant was we allhave that connection to
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guidance, to divine light, toReiki.
We have the same connection thatWilliam Rand does, and we just
need to connect.
And that's what, why heredirects us there.
Yeah.
And I tell my students that too.
Just, you just, you're, when youfirst start you're still
wounded.
You're still trying to heal andI'm still trying to heal.
You, and you distrust, like ifyou've lived even 25 years, you
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must have made enough mistakesto go I don't know if I know
what I'm doing here.
apparently, I'm not trusting myown guidance.
And then it's just hard totrust.
Yeah, it is.
And but it's returns you to thatstate of okay, no, I can plug
into this.
I have access to divineguidance.
It's right there.
Sometimes I feel like my guysare probably just Doing.
Pam (30:58):
I have to tell you, Karen, that once I started seeing some
of the things that I would sayand do early on in my journey,
probably still are, but I don'thave the same guy, but I used to
work a lot with ArchangelMichael and I would see him go
like this, put his head up
Karen (31:12):
forehead and shake his head and just go Oh
Pam (31:15):
my goodness.
I remember once telling himthank you so much for and then
that we should talk about guidesbecause that opens things up.
But I remember when he was myguide one day we did a really
heavy duty healing for a goodfriend of mine.
And afterwards I just I saidthank, he was still Archangel
Michael was still there.
And I said, thank you so muchfor taking time off from your
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job to come and do that reallyheavy healing for us.
And it was so funny, ArchangelMichael, I could clearly, when I
work with guides, it opens up alittle more for me and I could
hear him say, what do you thinkI do?
Karen (31:57):
I dunno, you're the right hand to God or
Pam (31:59):
something.
And you go around and you're,you.
Are you?
And I just had this vision ofhim, like fighting dense
energies.
And then I realized, oh wait, wewere just lifting dense energies
from my friend.
And I went, oh, this
Karen (32:16):
is what you do your job once again, his hand was on his
forehead and his head was downand he was
Pam (32:25):
try, trying not to laugh at me.
And it's so funny.
And on a few occasions he didmention that he really liked
working with us and just thelaughter and the
Karen (32:36):
innocence and innocence of humor, I think.
And yeah, like I said, I did notgrow up in church.
I didn't know.
I think I've heard of likeGabriel, like he's in the Bible,
right?
Gabriel?
Yes.
Or Angel Gabriel.
I think I'd heard of, but myexperience with, if I have time
to tell it.
Yeah.
So I didn't really, I didn'tdisbelieve in angels or No I
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don't know.
I just didn't really think abouthim that much, but there was,
oh, I'll just tell really fast.
So one night after my son hadgone to college, I was really
lonely and I was sad andpathetic and apparently I'm
overly dramatic even when I'mcompletely by myself.
I don't know.
I was acting out for my cats orwhat, but I was crying.
I was sitting on my sofa and Iwas throwing my hands up in the
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air because my mother's dead.
My dad's dead.
My grandparents are dead.
They can be guides.
I would call, we would call thislike second ancestral guides or
second heaven energy guides.
But I was just throwing my handsup and there is anybody there?
I'm Jess, anybody there?
So I'm asking, but I didn'tthink about this.
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And I felt this like warm, itwas like a very warm hand, took
this hand that I had thrown upin the air and I just felt this
and it, I just stopped cryingcuz I thought what the hell is
that?
And I said, who are you?
And I heard Muriel, I'm clear.
It's like I heard Muriel and Iwas thinking like, Ariel, like
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the little mermaid what are youtalking about?
So I had to Google it and I, andit's, I was like, oh my God,
it's an arching, I feel youthere.
I just got a big chill.
Pam (34:08):
So
Karen (34:08):
I thought isn't that weird?
And then two weeks later, I hadgone to, someone invited me to
Fayetteville, Arkansas to apsychic greeting.
And this woman just hadeverybody sit in a circle and
then she'd bring us one by oneto the center of the circle and
she would put oil on our feetand hold our feet and give a
psychic greeting.
And she was really good.
I don't remember what she said,but when I stood up and said,
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thank you, and went to go backto my seat, she said, oh, she
said, by the way, she said, doyou know that Archangel Ure is
your guardian angel for thislife?
And he has been with you fromthe beginning?
And I was like, oh, yeah,actually I do know that.
Thank you.
And that was my awareness.
And that sounds crazy, and Idon't really talk about it
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except with Reiki people,because I didn't grow up with
that and I didn't.
I didn't understand that Ineeded to be in a state of I
need help.
Is there anybody there?
Is there anybody there?
And I was like, yeah, I'm righthere.
I'm like, what the hell are youAnd I don't, I still don't
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completely understand it.
I think like when you're talkingabout Arch Michael, I think of
him as, cause I've asked what,how?
Cause I wanna understand it inmy mind.
And he's you can't really, butthey're more like fractal, like
they're everywhere at once.
Yes.
Pam (35:24):
I It's like they're omnipresent.
Yeah.
Karen (35:27):
And yeah.
And guidance.
Pam (35:30):
Just the reason I wanted to talk for a minute about guides
and the reason for them, and Ididn't really I guess I did grow
up with a guide in the sensethat since I was a child I could
talk to God and get a sense ofthe response very much.
And I, that never went away,even though I think that I knew
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that it would be discouraged inmy church if I had mentioned it.
So I just didn't mention itbecause I wasn't willing to give
up that connection.
But Karen, I have a funny storytoo, because one of the things
that you often hear Reiki peopletalk about is my guides.
My guides.
I'm working with my guides, andI didn't understand that
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concept.
Oh God, what do you mean?
When I first started Reiki, butin our first level one and two
class My teacher played WilliamRand's meditation of Finding
Your Reiki Guides, and that'sone of the meditations in his
Reiki Touch kit, which is just afantastic kit if you still have
a D V D player and a CD player.
I've been talking to him aboutbringing that kid and making it
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digital, an ebook and MP3s andstuff.
And he, it's definitely on hislist, but he does have a very
long list of things to do andbecause it's just a fantastic
meditation.
And so I'm listening to thatmeditation.
And in one part, you ask thename of your guide, so I see
this little tiny light and it'sjust a light.
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And that is actually how angelsshow up to me as lights.
I don't necessarily see thebodies each time and.
But I didn't know that I wasall, I was just brand new and
I'm just trying my best tofollow the meditation and not
screw it up.
And you ask the name and I heardAriel and I was like, oh man.
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And like you I was actuallyraised Protestant, so we don't
talk about angels very much.
And the only angel I think weever talk about is the one that
was at Christ's birth.
And so I didn't know anythingelse about anyone else.
And I hear Ariel and I went, ohman, probably everybody else got
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somebody cool.
And I got the little mermaids.
I really literally that's.
I was even hesitant to share inthe class at the but I did.
I said, and I also had God.
And so I thought, okay, at leastGod.
And the light expanded andexpanded until it got so large
that I could see that it wasGod.
And so I shared at the end, Ididn't share God cuz I thought
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they're gonna think I'mpresumptuous if I say my guide
is
Karen (38:06):
God.
Pam (38:07):
God.
Even though looking back, likeI've had, I have tapped into, I
had a relationship and afriendship with God my since a
little child.
And I never let that gofortunately.
But I did share, I got Ariel andI was very confused and my
teacher said, oh, ArchangelAriel, how lovely.
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And I went, Ariel's an angel.
So I looked it up and realizedthat Archangel Ariel was all
about animals and nature, whichhas been my entire existence,
has been about animals andnature.
And it made perfect sense.
Karen (38:50):
Muriel's a about supposed to be about wisdom.
Sense of
Pam (38:54):
humor though.
Yeah.
Muriel, it's about wisdom andwisdom, sense of humor.
And that makes sense.
know, For me, some people ask ifyou need a guide, and I don't
think you do, Karen.
Like I, I think you can do Reikiwithout working with guides.
But for me, what happened wasworking with a guide, I'm not
very good at abstract conceptsand so working with my guide, it
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Gave me something real, a littlemore real to connect with.
That looked like an angel thatlooked like a person.
My main guide right now isJesus, and that gives me someone
real to connect with and askquestions of and that sort of
thing, rather than just puttingit out in the ether.
I do still talk to God like Ialways have, but it is nice to
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have that intermediary as well,that guide to, to just have
somebody a little more real toconnect with.
So you don't need a guide, butit can be useful.
What do you, what's your,
Karen (39:53):
yeah.
And sometimes guides come in.
Like I was Mother Mary comes innot to every session right.
But with a couple of clientsI'll ask.
I think when I did, I was like,are you Catholic?
She said, yeah, why?
I said, cause I feel like MotherMary's here for you it, and
Mother Mary for me, to me seemslike this beautiful.
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Very loving.
Similar to Quan, but not, butdifferent.
But, and I think these are justenergies, these are just
energies guides that help bringa particular frequency or help
you understand something or helplift something.
Or I'm, I don't know, just beopen.
But you don't have to have Reikiguides or spirit guides or
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sometimes, and I wanted to saythis, sometimes I think we are
spiritual guides for each other.
That's true.
If you've ever, I don't know whyI'm feeling emotional about
this.
If you've ever had a nudge tolike, go talk to that person,
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or, Do something and he, andit's just this, there's no
logical reason for you to do itor to speak to that person or
something.
Just I think birds come, orinsects appear, or, I think that
all of like animal totemsappearing and giving you
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guidance go this way here.
Yes.
Here's your sign.
Sometimes I think we act as eachother's signs.
You know that if we'relistening, if you are a Reiki
practitioner and you're pluggedin a lot, you of, you'll get
like a nudge.
Like you, you need to smile atthat.
Sometimes I'm just walking and Iget smile at that kid.
(41:40):
Yeah.
And I just do it.
And I know that you probablyhave been on the receiving end.
Sometimes it just, somebody justwalks up and says you've got the
prettiest eyes.
They'll, and it's just what youneeded to hear at that
particular moment.
So I think sometimes we areinstruments, maybe not guides.
We are instruments.
Pam (41:57):
Yeah.
For each other.
I think you're right.
We're that element that bringsin the coincidences.
That are the best.
And
Karen (42:02):
so when you're listening and you're open to guidance that
then sometimes you're just it'sjust a little part that you play
just six or seven eagles flyingby your house, Pam.
They're like, I don't know why Ifeel like, Hey, how you doing?
I was like, I dunno, it's kindagot the urge to come over here,
I don't know.
But I feel like there's oh wait,now I'm gonna quote Hamlet.
What does Hamlet say?
There are more things in onheaven and earth, Horatio, than
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are dreamt of in yourphilosophy.
So there's so much going on thatwe can't even.
understand.
And we're all pieces and partsof it.
Pam (42:33):
Yeah, I agree.
And I th Yeah, that's abeautiful way to put it, Karen.
And, I think that you talk to,touched on listening, and I know
that in animal Reiki, that's avery big part of the course is
just opening up that intuition,opening up that ability to
listen.
Because of course, as you'redoing animal Reiki sessions, you
have to be very vigilant and youhave to do them with your eyes
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open.
You have to do them sometimes innoisy environments, but you have
to do them in a way that keepseverybody safe.
And that's really important.
And people, sometimes listeningpeople don't understand because
they think it's hearing, butit's all of those senses that I
described.
And when we can learn to listenwith all the parts of our body
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and all the parts of our being.
Then we can access all of theseex all of this extra
information.
There's a theory that animalshave an eighth chakra, and we
all know that animals can bevery intuitive and very
sensitive.
There are dogs that can sniffout cancer and that are more
accurate than some of the mostadvanced diagnostic equipment
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than that we have.
Animals always seem to know ourmood.
Animals know when we're cominghome, even though it, yeah.
Is impossible for them to know.
They usually know f 10 minutesor so before we're coming home.
And they and this extends toanimals in nature as well.
Like they're, there's a verystrong awareness and so you can
really tap into that innerawareness.
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And I've been asked to find abetter word than listening.
To describe it because so manypeople feel that listening is
just for sound.
But honestly, I can't.
I've tried perception and it'snot the same.
I've tried inner awareness.
It's not the same becausethere's an action, there's an
active part of listening.
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And so if inst, if you canfollow me on the word listening,
if you can listen with everypart of your being and that's
listening, that's like.
Trying like open to hear andactively working to hear, then
you can tap into your guidanceand what's right for you.
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And sometimes my guidance takesme places I don't really wanna
go.
And I'm sure that when yourguidance was saying Ecuador, you
had a few moments when you werelike don't know,
Karen (45:03):
that's when like when you asked for clarification then,
and you'll get it.
Then you'll, when I was supposedto go to Norway to study
reconnected healing back in 20,when was that?
I don't, 2013 I think orsomething.
2014.
And 2014.
And I remember telling my son Ihad a feeling I saw this.
And I went, huh?
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Reconnected healing.
I looked it up.
and I thought there's no classexcept in Ecuador that I could,
Ecuador in Norway that I couldgo to.
So I went and told my son, Isaid, I think I'm supposed to go
to Norway.
He was playing a game.
He's okay.
And then I, and then there was ashow that was watching, and then
it was, guess where it was?
It was Ecuador.
We were driving in the carlistening to classical music,
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and Edgar Greig came on and Isaid, Hey, guess where this
composer is from?
He said, Norway.
I said, yes.
Yeah.
And I just, everywhere I turnedfor three days.
It was like Norway.
Because I was listening, but Iwas like, I supposed to go to
Norway.
I've never been to Norway.
Hti du, how am I gonna go toNorway?
Where am I gonna get that money?
And it just happened.
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Yeah.
So it shows up and
Pam (46:06):
just pay attention
Karen (46:08):
and that's pay attention.
Maybe that's it.
It's not just listening.
It's Pay
Pam (46:11):
attention to guidance that's all around you.
Yeah, that's right.
It's about being able to payattention, like listening for
and paying attention.
That's true.
That's a good
Karen (46:21):
how much of my life did I live?
Not paying attention.
I was just, cause when you'relike focused on what you think
you're supposed to be doing andyou're like, gonna do this and
you're like this is how mostpeople live their lives, me
included, like this.
It's going straightforward withpeople.
I gotta get a degree.
I'm gonna get a master's degree,I'm gonna have a teaching
career.
I'm gonna do this.
And you just, if you're notopen, you're not gonna get any
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guidance.
So it's
Pam (46:43):
open listening.
It's, being open and listen.
Yeah, totally.
I love that.
Karen, is there anything there?
There was something else I wasgonna mention about, but I can't
think of it now.
Oh, just, yeah.
Even for me the guidance to domy Reiki masters, I had a
million reasons in England withWilliam Rand and a million
reasons why I couldn't do that.
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One of the biggest ones wasmoney.
Money.
And the money just showed up.
So if you can just listen andthen say yes.
I look at back at the guidanceto do the licensed teacher
program and one of my leastfavorite things in the world is
paperwork.
And Karen, you and I both knowhow much paperwork was involved
in the licensed teacher program.
It was enormous.
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And I, as a government employeefor 12 years, thought I had done
the equivalent of paperwork thatI needed to do in my lifetime.
Karen (47:34):
aside from taxes.
Thank you.
That's.
Pam (47:36):
That was enough.
And and yet doing the licensedteacher program is one of the
best things I ever did.
And I know I'm hearing from alot of people lately who are
getting a nudge and listening totheir guidance to maybe do the
licensed teacher program or dothese other things.
And so just
Karen (47:51):
the
Pam (47:52):
option to, I, hopefully we've cleared up some of the
ways that you can open yourselfto listen to guidance and
Karen (47:58):
just expand, the very basics, like the three pillars,
right?
It's this just came to me, youground and center.
and then indication of thespirit.
So when we're doing a session,we're asking, show me where this
person needs Reiki.
But you can just do this in yourlife.
You can ground and center, youcan do Gassho, and then you can
say, show
Pam (48:14):
me.
Show me.
And then bring your hands toyour third eye and ask the Reiki
to work with your intuition.
show me Reiki,
Karen (48:20):
show me where I'm supposed to go.
Show me what I'm supposed to do.
not just for a session.
You can apply that to yourentire life.
And then when you get the, huh,then studio, then do it.
Yeah.
That's kinda what I said in theblog you have to ask, which was
really hard for me.
Ask you, listen, and then youhave to act on what you,
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sometimes you.
Over here
Pam (48:45):
and there's a, there's another caveat.
You don't have to act on it.
Sometimes you can hear theguidance and say no or not right
now.
That's a good point.
I used to argue with my guidanceI used to, I used to go into
great detail about how Ishouldn't and couldn't and
wouldn't and all of this.
And, but over time I realizedthat my guidance always led me,
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the Reiki guidance always led mein the direction that was best
for me.
So even when the guidance, forinstance, said I needed to join
the license teacher program andI didn't particularly want to,
at the time, I knew I was goingto follow that guidance because
it was leading me in a directionthat was going to be beneficial
to me, And
Karen (49:28):
that's another clue about guidance is.
If what you're doing is justlike a struggle, you're over
here like trying to open thisdoor and it's not opening, then
that's probably not your door,
Pam (49:37):
not your guidance.
Yeah.
And there's one other thing,Karen, I wanted to mention
before we move into a meditationtoday.
And that's just that.
Just being aware of where theguidance comes from.
You talked about our ancestorsbeing around, and they can be
around as guides, but one of thethings I heard early on with
Reiki is that they're not alwaysthe best source of Guido because
Karen (50:01):
they're not.
No.
Cause they're
Pam (50:02):
ego based.
They may have great intentions.
Yeah.
They're not coming from a highenough plane of existence to
really see the whole picture.
they're usually, rooting you onor egging you on, but they're
also still usually working toheal their own egos to learn to
grow themselves.
So they don't have all theanswers.
(50:24):
And so I just wanted to talkabout the importance of finding
the guidance that is right foryou, like tapping into that
higher level guidance and makingsure that you are actually
working with a third heaven orhigher.
Vibration and frequency, energyas your guide.
(50:45):
And there's, I would say you canask your ancestors for support,
Karen (50:48):
but you better get your guidance from some, from
Pam (50:50):
a higher plane.
Exactly.
That's what I was shown earlyon.
Yeah.
And one of the things people askis, who is my guide?
And we're gonna go into a littlemeditation to find out who your
guide is.
But here's something you shouldknow.
You probably already know yourguide.
And that is because you probablyalways had, maybe you were drawn
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to Kenesha or Buddha or Jesus.
Or Jesus.
Yeah.
And I was
Karen (51:18):
a kid called Mother Mary.
Jesus had great big hands,
Pam (51:21):
right?
And I would imagine
Karen (51:22):
Jesus would hold me in these huge hands.
So in my mind, Jesus had hugehands and Jesus would hold me in
his hands.
So yeah, I've always been drawnto Jesus.
This followers scare me.
Pam (51:32):
There's, there are different interpretations for
sure.
Yeah.
Karen (51:35):
But where they're drawn, that's
Pam (51:36):
probably where you're drawn, is probably who has been
your guide all along.
And you also need to know thatyou can also choose your guide.
And so maybe if your guidancehasn't led you into the best of
decisions in the past, maybetake it that as a sign that
perhaps your guide is not fromthe highest vibration, and you
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can let that guide go.
We used to have a whole processof letting go of guides with
holy fire Reiki when it firstcame in so that you could work
with the guide that was mostappropriate to, for you at that
time and at a high enough level.
And sometimes our guides take usas far as they can and then we
change.
I remember when.
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I did study Holy fire.
I got very clear message that asmuch as I loved working with
Archangel Michael we, our workwas done together and he was
handing me off to Jesus.
And I remember being devastatedby it.
And my, I said, can I still talkto you?
And Archangel Michael said, ofcourse.
And I asked Jesus, and he said,of course, he's one of my
friends.
(52:41):
And.
But it was important for me toget over some of the hangups I
had with working with Jesus andrealize that we were going to
be, that he was the best guidefor me at that time, and I
actually never looked back fromit.
So it is possible to let go of aguide and for them to take you.
(53:02):
And Archangel Michael said I'vetaken you as far as I can, and I
didn't think you could get abetter guide than Archangel
Michael, but he said, now I'mpassing you off.
And that's okay too.
And you can also, if there'ssomeone you're drawn to, you can
do some research and then askthem to be your guide.
And you can use that distancesymbol like Karen talked about,
(53:22):
and you can send Reiki to yourguide and really form a nice
connection with them.
Especially do that for a coupleof weeks, for 10, 15 minutes a
day.
Send Reiki to your guide and.
I know I asked God once becauseWilliam Rand had written an
article about how you could sendReiki to God, and I said, God,
Reiki comes from you.
(53:42):
Why do why would I send it backto you Like, why would I send
Reiki
Karen (53:47):
to you?
Or why would I send Reiki
Pam (53:48):
to a Reiki guide somebody who's coming from this high
level of existence?
And God actually said you knowyour Reiki students.
That was back when we didattunements and now with Holy
Fire, the energy works with ourstudents directly.
But when we did attunements, theenergy would come through us and
then be transferred to them.
And he said, your Reiki studentsreceived their Reiki energy from
(54:12):
you.
and I said, yeah, theirconnection and yet you love
jumping on the table and gettinga treatment from them And I
said, yeah, and God said it'slike that.
Like we enjoy the connection andwe enjoy you sending this love,
this divine love energy to us.
(54:33):
So that's something we can do
Karen (54:35):
too.
Pam (54:36):
That's beautiful.
Ah, thank you.
And Karen, what else do we, isthere anything we missed talking
about guidance today?
Karen (54:43):
No, I think that's, I'm sure when you post this on
YouTube, people can postquestions in
Pam (54:48):
the comments.
Absolutely.
And we'll be happy to, and we
Karen (54:51):
will be happy or reach out reach out to either one of
us if you have a question andwe'd be happy to answer our 2
cents.
What we.
Yeah.
Pam (54:59):
Guys, we're gonna just wrap up our episode with a brief
meditation now to just help youopen to your guidance and
discernment and trust yourselfand and to figure out who your
guides are.
And so I'm just gonna invite youonce more to close your eyes,
just briefly bringing your handsinto Gassho, just reconnecting
(55:21):
with the Reiki energy, and thenplacing them comfortably on your
body, wherever you feel guidedand breathe.
And we just invite the Reikienergy today to bring all of the
disparate parts of ourselvesinto alignment with each other
so that we can listen with oneeffort, with every part of our
(55:48):
being and with every part of ourbeing.
Having an equal voice.
And if we have learned todistrust our intuition and our
guidance, our way of receivingenergy for any reason and in any
(56:11):
way, we just let that go today,just reconnecting with our
intuition, with every part ofour being.
And I invite you to imagine thatit's a beautiful, warm, sunny
day and that you are walkingthrough a trail in a beautiful
(56:31):
forest.
And as you walk along and as youbreathe into yourself, you
breathe in the life energy ofthe forest, and you come to the
edge of the forest and in frontof you.
It's a beautiful river.
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It's the river of life andthere's a bridge crossing the
river.
So you decide to cross thebridge and you begin walking
along a trail beside the riverof life.
It's filled with beautifulflowers and you're approaching
(57:19):
this lovely tree.
It's enormous.
With its branch, it's reachingto the sky and then curling back
to the earth again.
Symbolizing the great circle oflife.
And partway to the tree, you seea bench and you decide to sit on
(57:42):
this bench.
And when you look over to thetree of life, From under the
great canopy, someone starts towalk towards you.
This is your Reiki guide, andsome of you listening may
(58:06):
already know your guide and maybe so excited to see them, but
for some of you, this may benew.
So I invite you to notice whatthey're wearing.
What kind of shoes do they haveon, what do they look like?
(58:30):
You notice that they're smilingat you, and there's a
recognition and there's anunderstanding that our guides
lead us even when we're unawarethat they do.
They help us in our moments ofdespair when we are open.
(58:54):
So I invite you to open yourheart now and your mind in every
part of your being as the guidecomes over and sits on the bench
with you and takes your hands.
And if you're not sure who thisguide is, you can ask them their
(59:14):
name and you can let them knowthat you're so happy that this
third heaven being is in yourlife.
(59:39):
You might wanna ask them.
about some of the guidance theyhave given you in the past, some
of the times in your life whenthey stepped in and they helped
you go ahead and ask them anyquestions that you have or just
(01:00:06):
sit enjoying the Reiki energywith them.
And one of the things that ifyou wish you can invite them to
do is the following.
One of the things I've asked myguides to do is please help me
and guide me even, andespecially when I forget to ask,
(01:00:33):
and we'll just remain here forsome time.
As all of your blocks andbarriers to receiving guidance
from this enlightened being isreleased, and if you have
(01:00:57):
received guidance from lowerlevel beings in the past, those
are released from you now.
(01:05:53):
You can feel the Reiki energiessurrounding you.
Can you take a moment now tothank your guide or your guides
for everything that they havedone for you?
and continue doing and just makea decision that you will check
(01:06:15):
in with them more frequently,knowing that they're always
there, that you are never abother to them.
They're always available to you.
They're omnipresent, able to bemany places at once.
If it feels right to you, youmay choose to embrace your
(01:06:35):
guide.
You thank them once more andjust once again, you may invite
them to guide you and heal youeven, and especially when you
forget to ask whenever you feelready and guided to do go ahead
(01:07:01):
and take a deep breath.
And come back into the room.
Karen, I want to thank you forbeing here with us today talking
about guidance.
Always a pleasure, And I justwanna thank all of the
(01:07:23):
listeners.
Do let us know if you have anyquestions, just even in the
YouTube chat or you can reachout to either of us.
Our contact information isthere.
And I hope that you enjoyfollowing your guidance and just
listening with every part ofyourself.
(01:07:43):
Namaste.
Hi, and welcome to the Reiki from the Farm Podcast,
brought to you by me, Pam AllenLoblaw from Hidden Brook Farm.
I am a scientist, abusinesswoman, and a licensed
Reiki master teacher with theInternational Center for Reiki.
each week in this podcast,you'll be entertained as you
learn about a wide variety ofrelevant Reiki topics helping
(00:30):
you become a more knowledgeableand effective Reiki
practitioner.
We caution you though thispodcast may also dramatically
improve your life.
And we are so happy that you'rehere.
(00:57):
On this week's podcast, I'mtalking with Karen Keg about a
question that we get a lot,which is Reiki guidance, and
we're gonna talk about bothaspects of it, both working with
a Reiki guide and how to findout who your guide is and that
sort of thing.
And or how to choose a guide andalso what Reiki guidance looks
like and feels and so on.
(01:18):
Welcome Karen.
I'm so glad you're here.
Thank
Karen (01:20):
you for having me again.
I love being
Pam (01:22):
here, I love having you here,
Karen (01:25):
so you'll be back.
Pam (01:26):
Before we get too far in, I'd just like to let everybody
know about some classes that arecoming up a little later on this
month in February, I'm gonna beheading to Australia and just
outside of Canberra and Royal atmy friend's beautiful.
We are going to be having the RM A classes, which means those
are the classes that you need tobecome a professional member of
(01:49):
the Reiki MembershipAssociation, the I C R T Reiki
Membership Association.
I do also want to announce thatWe do through the Reiki
Membership Association.
We do now have Reiki membershipinsurance in Australia.
So for those Australianslistening, and we also do have
it in Canada and the UnitedKingdom as well now, as well as
(02:12):
the European Union.
So I know that for some of youfolks who are part of the
Australian Reiki Association,you need your classes in person,
but you would really like tohave your Holy Fire Reiki and be
a part of the I C R T.
So I am going to be offeringin-person classes there, and
I'll also be able to offer themonline, and I'm also going to be
(02:36):
offering an animal Reiki levelone and two I C R T animal
Reiki, level one and two whileI'm there.
So I do hope you can join us forthose.
I'll be back in April offeringclasses here on the farm as well
as online full lineup, includinganimal communication.
And in May I'll Beit theNortheast Reiki retreat in New
(03:01):
York.
It's not sold out yet and myanimal Reiki level one and two
class isn't sold out.
So if you'd like to have animalReiki class from one of the
course authors, I'd love to haveyou join us.
Karen, what have you got comingup?
Karen (03:15):
I've got.
At the end of February, I've gotwhat Heki I have animal and I
had a really good teacher, PamSo I have animal Reiki master
coming up and regular masteranimal one and two all at the
end of February and March, Ihave all four classes that I
offer besides coon.
I have one and two masteranimal, one and two and master.
(03:36):
And then April I'm hoping tomove to Ecuador, so I'm gonna be
lightening it up there.
That's busy.
Another exci.
Yeah, this coming April.
That's what my, that's what myguides keep telling me.
They keep telling me April andI'm like, Okay, but I have a
lease through July, so I'm notsure how that's gonna work, but
I, that's what we're talkingabout today.
I'm learning to trust thatguidance.
So I'm planning for April cuzthat's what I keep hearing.
(03:59):
And then in June, I amco-leading a retreat in
Wisconsin with my friend KathyMilowski.
And the dates for that you canfind all of that information on
Reiki hyphen institute.com.
And you can sign up for thatwellness retreat.
It's not a Reiki retreat, butit's a wellness retreat.
So we will have tables set up todo Reiki if you want, but we're
gonna be focusing on like soundhealing.
(04:20):
And it's mainly, it's a heal tohealer retreat.
It's, we forget to take care ofourselves sometimes.
So that's June the eighththrough the 11th, and you can
register for that at WisconsinReiki dot
Pam (04:30):
com.
I love it.
And we will have links in the.
In the podcast notes to yourwebsite as well if people to,
for people to find you so well.
Guys, let's just close our eyesand bring our hands into Gassho
for a moment and just activateour Reiki energy, just feeling
(04:51):
that connection with the heavensand with the earth.
Just imagine sinking your rootsdown into the earth so deeply
that you meet with thegroundwater in the water table,
(05:16):
and then go a little further tothe bedrock and just feeling the
stability of that.
So many people think Reikiguidance is in the e.
But in fact, it's very practicaland realistic, and it's all
around us.
(05:40):
I'm just activating your Reikisymbols and just allowing your
chakras to align so that you canlisten with your chakras and
with all of the disparate partsof yourself in alignment, your
head with your heart, yourintellect and intuition.
(06:08):
We are blessed to be of alineage of light bringers today
who are creating wellness on theearth, and we invite the energy
to please guide me and heal meso that I may be of creator help
to myself and to others.
Oh, and Namaste.
(06:33):
I don't know about you, but thatjust always
Karen (06:37):
settles me into
Pam (06:38):
the energy.
Just even the instant that myhands come together in Gassho.
the energy starts flowing andeverything feels more manageable
and yes.
I don't know.
Nicer in some way.
Karen I'm
glad
Karen (06:52):
that you rooted us in the earth because we do forget that,
that a lot of the guidance comesfrom this plane.
Yeah.
Pam (06:59):
It's all around us.
It's all around us everywhere.
There's one thing that I teachin my animal communication
class, and that is thatoftentimes when animals come
across our path, and not ananimal you see every day
necessarily, but an animalthat's, I normally don't see a
dog there and there's a dogthere, or, oh look, there's a
(07:19):
deer, or there's a pheasant or ahawk or something.
Goodness.
A fox just crossed my path andthere's messages behind that.
I encourage people to look atStephen Farmer's book on animal
spirit guides, and I even thepocket guide to Spirit Animals,
I actually keep it on my phoneon Kindle so that I can look up
(07:43):
the meaning of these animalsightings, even when I travel,
because they're alwayssignificant and Steven Farmer
has categorized, if this animalshows up, it might mean one of
these six things.
And I know you have a specialanimal spirit guide that kind of
lets you know when you're on theright track.
Karen (08:02):
Different.
So is it Steven, s t e v e n?
I don't have to Steven, Dr.
Steven.
I've used Ted Andrews.
And Ted Andrews
Pam (08:09):
has a wonderful book, but I have,
Karen (08:11):
I'm gonna check out
Pam (08:12):
the Steven Farmer.
Okay.
Even Farmers.
What I like about Stevens, Ilove Ted Andrew's book as well,
and it has more birds.
So I do pull his book out aswell.
And I'm trying to think of what,hi, it's called Animal Speak.
What is Animal Speak?
Karen (08:25):
Yeah, animal Speak.
It's over there on my shelf.
Pam (08:27):
It's on my shelf too, but I don't have it right in front of
me.
So I was going from memory andbut Steven Farmer, he actually
used to be married to DorianVirtue at one time.
And oh, he, but he He really hereally very succinctly breaks
down if this animal shows up, itmight mean this and that sort of
thing.
And I do notice that as I'mdoing Reiki sessions here in my
(08:51):
beautiful Reiki room, which issurrounded by windows, there's.
There are two very specialtrees, a little butternut tree
that I planted and a beautifulyellow birch that's been there
forever.
And specific birds will land onthe trees to give a specific
message to certain clients.
Sometimes it'll be a flock ofstarlings comes and if I'm not
(09:13):
paying attention they'll comeand knock into the window so
that I pay attention to whatbirds are there.
Sometimes it'll be chickies,blue jays every, very rarely,
cuz we don't have cardinalshere.
But twice during Reiki sessions,I saw cardinals.
There's one student inparticular that five or six
eagles fly by every time.
(09:34):
And eagles don't usually hangout like that.
Karen (09:37):
no.
Very unusual.
Pam (09:41):
But with that particular client she'll lay down on the
Reiki table and there will befive or six eagles going by.
And so
Karen (09:50):
a crow just came.
Whoop, right by my window.
I'm sorry.
No, that's all right.
So we would then
Pam (09:55):
look up the meaning of crow, and that's just a
wonderful way to get guidancefrom the earth.
And you have a mantis that shows
Karen (10:04):
up.
I do.
And that has been I've alwaysbeen really connected to spiders
when I see spider, I know I'msupposed to be, of course, you
can see spiders over, but ifit's like something was oh,
okay.
Or, really unusual.
I know I'm supposed to bewriting, that's my message that
I'm supposed to be writing,because in the Native American
traditions I looked this up.
They thought, oh, it's writingmessages.
(10:24):
And of course, if you readCharlotte's Web in second grade
the way I did, like some pig,remember Charlotte wrote in the
web.
But it's a message to mespecific you're supposed to be
writing.
You need to be writing, doingsomething creative.
Grandmother Spider, likeweaving, creating something.
And when I see a mantis thenthat has only been the last
couple of years and we havepraying Mantis is in Arkansas,
(10:45):
but it's unusual.
So the last guidance I just got,it's a special totem for me.
And I looked it up, like what?
It's a long story, but when theyshowed up in my life, I was
like, this is weird.
What is a praying mantis?
And they're odd looking littlethings.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they teach, you know whatthey they teach patience because
(11:06):
they can sit still for a longtime, which I can't But they
teach patience.
And they're when, and then whenit's time, boom, they're fast.
They.
I love it.
This whole decision to move toEcuador has been insane.
I asked specifically, I wasfeeling guided that I needed it
kept Ecuador kept popping up onmy radar and people said, why
are you moving to Ecuador?
And I don't wanna say becausethe manes showed up.
(11:28):
That sounds insane, right?
I have been looking at moving toEcuador.
I started researching it 30years ago, but then wow, it
started coming up on the radar.
So this is how guidance works.
It started popping up.
All these little, it justrandom.
So there's the first step aboutfollowing guidance is n there is
no such thing as an accident.
(11:48):
You just have to pay attention.
And there are no coincidences.
I started seeing things aboutEcuador.
Ecuador pops up everywhere.
So I asked specifically, if I amsupposed to sell everything and
move to another country, thenI'm gonna need some clear
guidance.
You're gonna send me a Manus.
It's in me a mantis, let me seea mantis cuz I hadn't seen one
in a year.
And that was right before wewent to the Reiki retreat.
(12:10):
So we went to Prescott and therewas a mantis above the bathtub
on the window outside.
And so I called Kathy, I waslike, Kathy, look, there's a,
she's oh good, yay.
And then we were waiting andgreeting people in Sedona at the
Mago retreat and in that littlearea before you go into the
(12:30):
desk, and we were just waitingfor the next group of people to
arrive.
And I look up and there'sAmanda's hey.
So I get her down, talk to herlike you, it's hot in here.
You need to go outside.
So I put her outside.
Two days later, Jill Till and Iare working on our presentation
and the man from the desk is onthe floor.
I said, what are you doing?
He.
He said, oh, there's a prayingManis in here on the floor.
I said, oh, it's mine.
(12:51):
I said, come here.
Put her outside.
And then when I got home, I knowthis sounds crazy I do live in
Arkansas in the Ozark Mountains,but it's not like Total Wildlife
everywhere.
I get home at one 30 in themorning and I'm my neighbor who
was taking care of my catsinstead of turning my lamps off
at the wall switch, she hadturned them off.
So I had to do that.
And I went, it was one 30 in themorning.
(13:12):
I had just driven from Tulsa,Oklahoma.
I was tired and caught my eye.
I look up and there's a mantison the ceiling.
I'm like, really?
So then I'm climbing up andgetting it down and and then two
more times within three days,there was a mantis in my
bedroom.
And yeah it, I it needs to be tothe point where you're like this
isn't, in fact, there's a videoof it on Facebook.
(13:33):
And I'm going like, this isinsane.
I'm like, okay, I get it.
I get it.
And as soon as I announce I'mmoving to Ecuador, then I stop
seeing him.
So I'm like, okay, I got it.
Pam (13:44):
It's really interesting.
I find that too, like peoplesay, people are always asking
us, Karen you talk about Reikiguidance, but what does that
mean?
And and how does it sound orlook to you?
And I really think it'sdifferent than what people
think.
Like it's not very often is itlike a conversation with God.
Occasionally that happens, butthat's not usually, mostly my
(14:07):
guidance comes in a lot likeyours.
Like maybe I'll ask a question.
As I'm doing Reiki or in aprayer.
And William Rand actuallydescribed this when he was asked
the question at a class that Iwas assisting him with recently.
What does your guidance looklike?
And he said, usually I'll askthe question and then I'll let
(14:28):
go of any attachment to theoutcome.
whatever.
And he said, usually the answershows up later on when I'm not
even thinking about it and I'mdoing something else.
So it's it's not so much of thatback and forth.
And that's a lot of times whathappens for me.
Although if I'm on a walk innature and my mind is really
(14:51):
quiet, it is a little more.
It's a little more Hey, God, andI converse with God and what's,
what is this about or what'sthat about?
And I do find in those reallyquiet, more meditative, natural
moments, I can, as I'm walking,I can get a little bit of a, of
(15:12):
an idea, but it's not aconversation.
It's more, I get more ofunknowing, or it even maybe
sounds like my own thoughts, butI, I've learned to discern that
it's not my thought that it'sactually coming from somewhere
else.
Karen (15:27):
People should pay attention to their, every,
everybody has clear senses.
Yes.
Some people, when you said thatI can tell it's not me because
I'll get like a chill or a aClair sentience.
I feel it in my body.
Oh, I just, I feel that.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the way to go, that's it.
Or some people hear, yeah, somepeople are more clairvoyant.
(15:52):
Some people just know.
Yeah.
That's biblical, isn't it?
Be still a no, that I'm God, youjust, you're, you, if you get
quiet, like you're saying, likeif you're a walk in nature,
something that'll quiet that,that you talking in your head,
right?
Oh, your friend's you should dothis.
You be careful of that, yougotta get away from all that.
And then the guidance is there.
(16:13):
It's mainly about you.
Here's this where Reiki helps.
It helps you get clear and inalignment so that you can
discern.
Pam (16:23):
Oh and there's a divine element to the guidance from
Reiki as well that I find isnever harmful.
And, I've seen people throughoutmy life say, I'm gonna do this
cra, this, whatever, this crazything.
And and I don't know that it'salways coming from a place of
(16:44):
divine guidance, sometimes someof the things that people do are
not from divine guidance, and sothey're not in their best
interests.
But when you bring Reiki intothe mix there's that divine
element.
To the energy that you can tapinto.
And so you get to tap intodivine guidance.
(17:05):
And what I think the differenceis that, at any given point in
time, heading in a certaindirection may look appealing or
may look like the place youshould go or the thing that you
should do.
And yet there's, what I'vealways noticed is divine
guidance comes from a littlehigher up so it can see the
(17:27):
whole picture instead of justthe small segment Yeah.
That you in at that moment.
And so divine guidance can helpyou almost play the long game.
Do what's gonna be best for youin the long run as opposed to
what would be expedient or bestfor you right now.
Do you know what I mean?
And yes, and divine aspect ofit, it can't cause harm.
(17:48):
So even something like going toEcuador That's probably not
gonna show up for somebody who'sjust taken a Reiki level one and
two class.
Like I think that the guidancekind of, we build on learning to
follow.
Yes.
Karen (18:03):
What, and I was, I think I mentioned before we started
that when we first, when I firsttook Reiki one and two in Reiki
too, when we talk about use thedistance symbol to connect Yeah.
With a spirit guide.
And I was like, what are youtalking about Seriously?
like, I was like, I didn't growup in church.
I was taught to pray the Lord'sPrayer and that was all that you
(18:24):
weren't supposed to ask.
And Jesus, we just asked thatyou help our football team win
tonight.
We were not supposed to ask forthings like that.
I'm sorry.
I grew up in Texas.
That's what we pray, just let usgo to the state championship and
yeah.
So I was taught that, you'resupposed to give thanks, just
pray the Lord's Prayer.
And then, but as far as likeconnecting with a.
A spirit guy or an angel or a,anything like that, or
(18:46):
connecting with, I thought Idon't need Reiki to ask Jesus
for anything and I didn'tunderstand until much later.
I thought, oh, okay.
It's not like I'm using thedistance symbol like, Jesus, you
there, it's not like I'm usingit like that to connect, but
that I am using Reiki to clearmyself and raise my vibration.
(19:14):
I feel like I'm using it tobring myself up a little bit and
then I don't have to worryabout, is this really good
guidance?
Is this like a, yeah, secondheaven entity trying to
manipulate me?
I don't have to worry about allthat because I have Reikied
myself and I have raised myvibration up here, which kind of
helps.
Then from, I would say likehigher spiritual beings that are
maybe trying to help.
(19:36):
And you have to ask, that's theother thing.
Pam (19:37):
Yes, you do have to ask for help.
You have to ask, because peoplenever go against your free will.
So you do have to be open toreceiving the guidance.
Karen (19:44):
Yeah.
And then so when you, but you'relike, okay I'm clear.
I'm not, I'm up here.
What you got?
It's that kind of a I'mlistening.
Yeah, I'm listening.
What have you got?
And then that helps with thatconnection a little better.
So that's what I think theymeant.
And I wrote a whole blog abouthaving to ask, I don't know if
anybody else struggles withthis, but I'm extremely
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independent and they say extremeindependence is a trauma
response.
Yeah.
And I'm not asking for helpbecause cuz nobody's gonna help
me and then I'll just have myfeelings hurt.
I was just coming from thatpoint of view and I was like,
oh, didn't you help?
I can do this by myself.
about the age fifties.
Yeah.
How does, how's that working outfor you?
Not so great Asking.
It's so much easier now causeyou put yourself into a, but
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that's all from Reiki.
Put yourself into alignment.
Ask for the guidance, thenlisten and watch and oh, and
then you will know.
You really will know, but youhave to ask for the guidance,
for the help.
Pam (20:40):
That's right.
And so that's where that prayerthat I, in the invocation,
please guide me and heal me sothat I might be of greater
service to myself and others.
That's a prayer that WilliamRand uses every day.
And so then I thought that's agood idea.
I started using it every day.
A lot of my too students use itevery day.
You use it every
Karen (20:56):
day, and it's easy.
It's not oh, guide me.
It's just it's just kill me andguide me so that I might be of
greater service.
It's simple and it's just
Pam (21:04):
that simple.
And you talk about asking and Iknow I heard Colleen Benelli
explain it once in a way thatmade so much sense to me, and
she said, anybody can ask.
We've been taught to ask, we'vebeen taught to pray, we've been
taught to ask.
What we've never necessarilybeen taught is how to receive.
And Reiki gives us not only anavenue to go ahead and ask the
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question, but it also gives us away to receive the answer, to
receive the energy, to manifestthe response and so on.
So Reiki does give us thatopportunity to both.
Ask the question and receive theresponse, whatever that might
be.
And I think that's why so manypeople with Reiki noticed these
wonderful coincidences happeningin their lives.
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And Karen, I remember readingone of the, my earlier spiritual
books was The CelestineProphecy.
Oh, I love that.
Love that book.
And I read that in my twenties.
And I remember one of the, oneof the underlying themes is that
there are no coincidences.
Like everything that happens inyour life happens for a purpose.
And you said like you keptseeing Ecuador.
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That's what will happen to me.
I'll every time I turn around,like just something simple I,
every time I turned around backin January of 2019, I kept
seeing Marie Condo.
And I thought wait, my home ispretty nice.
I don't really need that.
And.
Then I thought, but I keptseeing it.
So I said okay I'll watch hershows.
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So I watched her shows and I waslike, maybe I do need that.
And then I read her book andthen I came home and for six
months I just gutted my health
Karen (22:42):
That's a simple
Pam (22:43):
one.
But also, with the licensedteacher program, I say that I
get a nudge and Yeah, you saythat a lot.
I got, I say that.
Thank you.
Nudge a nudge.
And I think I call it a nudgebecause the, you mentioned the
different Claires and I talkabout this with my animal
communication course.
Because actually if you doreally wanna open up.
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Pathway to guidance.
That's what we do in the animalcommunication course, is we
activate the intuition in a mostpronounced way, and then we help
you understand it.
And then we give you a tool tohelp you develop the discernment
to understand, understand whatyou're receiving.
And so we talk about theClaires, that some people are
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clairvoyant, meaning that theysee.
And so people like that mighthave vivid dreams about
something or they might, intheir meditation, they might
maybe see a movie or a pictureor something unfold, or they may
even just see colors, but thatmight have a meaning.
And then we have people whohear, who are clairvoyant or
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Claire audience.
And I sometimes think that's oneof the more difficult ones to
develop, only because oursociety talks about believes
that if you hear voices, you'recrazy.
Karen (24:00):
You're crazy And it's, that'll share that with
everybody.
Of course, now this is on apodcast, but yes.
Pam (24:05):
No, it's predominant.
And I wished I'd marked down thestudy, but there was a study
that was done at a a reallynicely designed study.
I thought they had 256 peoplethat they pre-screened to ha
that they had no mental illness.
And then they sent them todifferent places and like
psychiatrists, psychologists,counselors, hospitals
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psychiatric units, all that.
And they said, we want you to goin and we want you to answer
every question honestly, exceptsay you hear voices just
somewhere in there.
Like in the course of that, justmention that you hear voices and
they I think over 90% of themwere diagnosed with at least one
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mental illness.
And they'd already beenpre-screened as having had none.
And it was over 50% of them werediagnosed with more than one.
Mental wow.
Illness or mental condition.
And so that's just reallypredominant in our society.
So
Karen (25:02):
a lot of, I don't wonder, nobody wants to listen to their
guidance.
And if you culturally tellingyou that you're nuts, if you're
hearing guidance if you can hearvoices
Pam (25:12):
or hear, that's right.
And so that's really playedinto, I think when we look at,
if you look at.
Our culture when it was moreprimitive, when we had to hunt,
you had to follow guidance.
That's how
Karen (25:23):
you hunted, right?
Pam (25:24):
You looked for guidance from everywhere and, trackers
and things like that.
And one of the things in theanimal communication classes, we
have to open that up again.
We have to, and we have tounlearn some things in order to
open the pathway again.
And but clear audience can betricky.
And so a lot of people who haveclear audience, but who, even if
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you are comfortable with hearingyour guidance, if that exists
within your culturalconditioning, there might be
discomfort there.
Yeah.
And so a lot of people will havetin.
or ringing in their ears.
And that's because they'vethey're not tuned into the
frequency where they canactually hear the guidance.
And those are people that areclear ent.
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And we also have clear thinking.
And that can be a littledifficult to tell.
Is that, and that's, we callthat clear intellect.
Is that my thought?
Or is that somebody else'sthought?
Mm-hmm.
Else's thought.
There's clear imagination.
Which creatives have they?
The in your intuition or your,the energy can work with you
through your imagination.
And these are the writers in thethe people who create songs and
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music and art of any kind.
A lot of these folks have clearimagination and they're the way
show I think, of the worldbecause they can see what's not
already there.
They can imagine what's notalready there.
We have clear Salent, Clairetasting, Claire Ency, Claire
touching Clear empathy, feeling,being able to feel.
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What are some of the others thatI'm Oh, clear cognizance, which
is just knowing, and you don'tknow how, and there's also clear
sentience, meaning not just Ifeel the emotions of others, but
like if you're ill, I can feelyour illness in my body and that
can I, I used to have that and Iactually asked for that to
change because that wasuncomfortable.
It's hard to be a Reikipractitioner
Karen (27:12):
and feel everybody's pain It really is.
That's
Pam (27:15):
not I, and that, and, when I did ask for that to change,
what it did was it opened upclairvoyance instead, which
wasn't open for me.
And what I noticed, Karen, andI'm just gonna ask you to jump
in and say and what you havenoticed.
What I noticed is that when Istarted my Reiki journey, my
Claire's or my intuition, Wasthere, but it was really in its
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infancy and it's reallydeveloped over time.
And as it's developed more, likeI started off with clear
Cognizant, which is clearknowing, and I didn't trust it.
So I, basically I didn't havevery much there.
And clear empathy.
Clear, just feeling emotions,clear emotions.
And so I didn't really know howto trust it.
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And then I had also had the, Idiscovered I also had the Clair
sentience where I could feel inmy body what was happening with
somebody else.
And when I asked that to change,it changed out for clairvoyance,
which was a picture.
And, with that, then I could doanimal communication.
But it has gradually opened andnow, you have access, you gain
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access to more and more.
The more of your intuition, themore that Reiki that you do.
What have you found?
Yeah, you do.
Karen (28:31):
And then, so if people who are ju, if people are
listening and they're juststarting their Reiki journey,
I'm, it's know that what Reikiis doing is it's helping you
clear up those layers of stuffthat you need to heal and let go
of.
And to, with the holy firelineage, we talk about return to
your authentic self.
We know, like Pam said, likeprimitive peoples.
We know a lot, we survived, andit comes back.
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If you're ever, if you're everwalking by yourself in a bad
neighborhood, oh yeah, all thosesenses come back.
you're picking up stuff aboutthat guy on the corner.
You don't know how you're knowthat, but you just gonna I don't
know, but I'm just feeling likehe's, all of that comes alive
when you are in danger, it's allthere.
Of course, you don't wanna livein a hyper-aware state like that
all the time, but Reiki willclear off all the stuff so that
you can return to.
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A state of groundedness.
And again, that Pam, that's soimportant that you take us down
and ground yourself in theearth.
You are, you're here betweenheaven and earth.
We really are.
These channels, between the,like an electromagnetic channel
here.
And we can, and sometimes I getguidance by just opening, and
I'll ask a question and I'lljust write,
Pam (29:38):
oh, what comes through?
I journal three pages everymorning from Julia Cameron's the
Artist's Way, and I'll, at theend of my three pages, I'm like,
oh, now I see what my prioritiesare for the day.
Now I see where I need to gowith this question.
And it's
Karen (29:54):
not magic, it's just, it's all about Reiki helps with
all of these.
He helps with guidance and thisis what, I guess maybe in Reiki
too.
I wasn't ready to co comprehendall this yet.
Ask Reiki to help ask, whenWilliam says Ask Reiki, I used
to think.
It's easier just to ask youwhat's the answer?
But what he meant was we allhave that connection to
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guidance, to divine light, toReiki.
We have the same connection thatWilliam Rand does, and we just
need to connect.
And that's what, why heredirects us there.
Yeah.
And I tell my students that too.
Just, you just, you're, when youfirst start you're still
wounded.
You're still trying to heal andI'm still trying to heal.
You, and you distrust, like ifyou've lived even 25 years, you
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must have made enough mistakesto go I don't know if I know
what I'm doing here.
apparently, I'm not trusting myown guidance.
And then it's just hard totrust.
Yeah, it is.
And but it's returns you to thatstate of okay, no, I can plug
into this.
I have access to divineguidance.
It's right there.
Sometimes I feel like my guysare probably just Doing.
Pam (30:58):
I have to tell you, Karen, that once I started seeing some
of the things that I would sayand do early on in my journey,
probably still are, but I don'thave the same guy, but I used to
work a lot with ArchangelMichael and I would see him go
like this, put his head up
Karen (31:12):
forehead and shake his head and just go Oh
Pam (31:15):
my goodness.
I remember once telling himthank you so much for and then
that we should talk about guidesbecause that opens things up.
But I remember when he was myguide one day we did a really
heavy duty healing for a goodfriend of mine.
And afterwards I just I saidthank, he was still Archangel
Michael was still there.
And I said, thank you so muchfor taking time off from your
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job to come and do that reallyheavy healing for us.
And it was so funny, ArchangelMichael, I could clearly, when I
work with guides, it opens up alittle more for me and I could
hear him say, what do you thinkI do?
Karen (31:57):
I dunno, you're the right hand to God or
Pam (31:59):
something.
And you go around and you're,you.
Are you?
And I just had this vision ofhim, like fighting dense
energies.
And then I realized, oh wait, wewere just lifting dense energies
from my friend.
And I went, oh, this
Karen (32:16):
is what you do your job once again, his hand was on his
forehead and his head was downand he was
Pam (32:25):
try, trying not to laugh at me.
And it's so funny.
And on a few occasions he didmention that he really liked
working with us and just thelaughter and the
Karen (32:36):
innocence and innocence of humor, I think.
And yeah, like I said, I did notgrow up in church.
I didn't know.
I think I've heard of likeGabriel, like he's in the Bible,
right?
Gabriel?
Yes.
Or Angel Gabriel.
I think I'd heard of, but myexperience with, if I have time
to tell it.
Yeah.
So I didn't really, I didn'tdisbelieve in angels or No I
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don't know.
I just didn't really think abouthim that much, but there was,
oh, I'll just tell really fast.
So one night after my son hadgone to college, I was really
lonely and I was sad andpathetic and apparently I'm
overly dramatic even when I'mcompletely by myself.
I don't know.
I was acting out for my cats orwhat, but I was crying.
I was sitting on my sofa and Iwas throwing my hands up in the
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air because my mother's dead.
My dad's dead.
My grandparents are dead.
They can be guides.
I would call, we would call thislike second ancestral guides or
second heaven energy guides.
But I was just throwing my handsup and there is anybody there?
I'm Jess, anybody there?
So I'm asking, but I didn'tthink about this.
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And I felt this like warm, itwas like a very warm hand, took
this hand that I had thrown upin the air and I just felt this
and it, I just stopped cryingcuz I thought what the hell is
that?
And I said, who are you?
And I heard Muriel, I'm clear.
It's like I heard Muriel and Iwas thinking like, Ariel, like
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the little mermaid what are youtalking about?
So I had to Google it and I, andit's, I was like, oh my God,
it's an arching, I feel youthere.
I just got a big chill.
Pam (34:08):
So
Karen (34:08):
I thought isn't that weird?
And then two weeks later, I hadgone to, someone invited me to
Fayetteville, Arkansas to apsychic greeting.
And this woman just hadeverybody sit in a circle and
then she'd bring us one by oneto the center of the circle and
she would put oil on our feetand hold our feet and give a
psychic greeting.
And she was really good.
I don't remember what she said,but when I stood up and said,
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thank you, and went to go backto my seat, she said, oh, she
said, by the way, she said, doyou know that Archangel Ure is
your guardian angel for thislife?
And he has been with you fromthe beginning?
And I was like, oh, yeah,actually I do know that.
Thank you.
And that was my awareness.
And that sounds crazy, and Idon't really talk about it
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except with Reiki people,because I didn't grow up with
that and I didn't.
I didn't understand that Ineeded to be in a state of I
need help.
Is there anybody there?
Is there anybody there?
And I was like, yeah, I'm righthere.
I'm like, what the hell are youAnd I don't, I still don't
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completely understand it.
I think like when you're talkingabout Arch Michael, I think of
him as, cause I've asked what,how?
Cause I wanna understand it inmy mind.
And he's you can't really, butthey're more like fractal, like
they're everywhere at once.
Yes.
Pam (35:24):
I It's like they're omnipresent.
Yeah.
Karen (35:27):
And yeah.
And guidance.
Pam (35:30):
Just the reason I wanted to talk for a minute about guides
and the reason for them, and Ididn't really I guess I did grow
up with a guide in the sensethat since I was a child I could
talk to God and get a sense ofthe response very much.
And I, that never went away,even though I think that I knew
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that it would be discouraged inmy church if I had mentioned it.
So I just didn't mention itbecause I wasn't willing to give
up that connection.
But Karen, I have a funny storytoo, because one of the things
that you often hear Reiki peopletalk about is my guides.
My guides.
I'm working with my guides, andI didn't understand that
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concept.
Oh God, what do you mean?
When I first started Reiki, butin our first level one and two
class My teacher played WilliamRand's meditation of Finding
Your Reiki Guides, and that'sone of the meditations in his
Reiki Touch kit, which is just afantastic kit if you still have
a D V D player and a CD player.
I've been talking to him aboutbringing that kid and making it
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digital, an ebook and MP3s andstuff.
And he, it's definitely on hislist, but he does have a very
long list of things to do andbecause it's just a fantastic
meditation.
And so I'm listening to thatmeditation.
And in one part, you ask thename of your guide, so I see
this little tiny light and it'sjust a light.
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And that is actually how angelsshow up to me as lights.
I don't necessarily see thebodies each time and.
But I didn't know that I wasall, I was just brand new and
I'm just trying my best tofollow the meditation and not
screw it up.
And you ask the name and I heardAriel and I was like, oh man.
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And like you I was actuallyraised Protestant, so we don't
talk about angels very much.
And the only angel I think weever talk about is the one that
was at Christ's birth.
And so I didn't know anythingelse about anyone else.
And I hear Ariel and I went, ohman, probably everybody else got
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somebody cool.
And I got the little mermaids.
I really literally that's.
I was even hesitant to share inthe class at the but I did.
I said, and I also had God.
And so I thought, okay, at leastGod.
And the light expanded andexpanded until it got so large
that I could see that it wasGod.
And so I shared at the end, Ididn't share God cuz I thought
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they're gonna think I'mpresumptuous if I say my guide
is
Karen (38:06):
God.
Pam (38:07):
God.
Even though looking back, likeI've had, I have tapped into, I
had a relationship and afriendship with God my since a
little child.
And I never let that gofortunately.
But I did share, I got Ariel andI was very confused and my
teacher said, oh, ArchangelAriel, how lovely.
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And I went, Ariel's an angel.
So I looked it up and realizedthat Archangel Ariel was all
about animals and nature, whichhas been my entire existence,
has been about animals andnature.
And it made perfect sense.
Karen (38:50):
Muriel's a about supposed to be about wisdom.
Sense of
Pam (38:54):
humor though.
Yeah.
Muriel, it's about wisdom andwisdom, sense of humor.
And that makes sense.
know, For me, some people ask ifyou need a guide, and I don't
think you do, Karen.
Like I, I think you can do Reikiwithout working with guides.
But for me, what happened wasworking with a guide, I'm not
very good at abstract conceptsand so working with my guide, it
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Gave me something real, a littlemore real to connect with.
That looked like an angel thatlooked like a person.
My main guide right now isJesus, and that gives me someone
real to connect with and askquestions of and that sort of
thing, rather than just puttingit out in the ether.
I do still talk to God like Ialways have, but it is nice to
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have that intermediary as well,that guide to, to just have
somebody a little more real toconnect with.
So you don't need a guide, butit can be useful.
What do you, what's your,
Karen (39:53):
yeah.
And sometimes guides come in.
Like I was Mother Mary comes innot to every session right.
But with a couple of clientsI'll ask.
I think when I did, I was like,are you Catholic?
She said, yeah, why?
I said, cause I feel like MotherMary's here for you it, and
Mother Mary for me, to me seemslike this beautiful.
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Very loving.
Similar to Quan, but not, butdifferent.
But, and I think these are justenergies, these are just
energies guides that help bringa particular frequency or help
you understand something or helplift something.
Or I'm, I don't know, just beopen.
But you don't have to have Reikiguides or spirit guides or
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sometimes, and I wanted to saythis, sometimes I think we are
spiritual guides for each other.
That's true.
If you've ever, I don't know whyI'm feeling emotional about
this.
If you've ever had a nudge tolike, go talk to that person,
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or, Do something and he, andit's just this, there's no
logical reason for you to do itor to speak to that person or
something.
Just I think birds come, orinsects appear, or, I think that
all of like animal totemsappearing and giving you
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guidance go this way here.
Yes.
Here's your sign.
Sometimes I think we act as eachother's signs.
You know that if we'relistening, if you are a Reiki
practitioner and you're pluggedin a lot, you of, you'll get
like a nudge.
Like you, you need to smile atthat.
Sometimes I'm just walking and Iget smile at that kid.
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Yeah.
And I just do it.
And I know that you probablyhave been on the receiving end.
Sometimes it just, somebody justwalks up and says you've got the
prettiest eyes.
They'll, and it's just what youneeded to hear at that
particular moment.
So I think sometimes we areinstruments, maybe not guides.
We are instruments.
Pam (41:57):
Yeah.
For each other.
I think you're right.
We're that element that bringsin the coincidences.
That are the best.
And
Karen (42:02):
so when you're listening and you're open to guidance that
then sometimes you're just it'sjust a little part that you play
just six or seven eagles flyingby your house, Pam.
They're like, I don't know why Ifeel like, Hey, how you doing?
I was like, I dunno, it's kindagot the urge to come over here,
I don't know.
But I feel like there's oh wait,now I'm gonna quote Hamlet.
What does Hamlet say?
There are more things in onheaven and earth, Horatio, than
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are dreamt of in yourphilosophy.
So there's so much going on thatwe can't even.
understand.
And we're all pieces and partsof it.
Pam (42:33):
Yeah, I agree.
And I th Yeah, that's abeautiful way to put it, Karen.
And, I think that you talk to,touched on listening, and I know
that in animal Reiki, that's avery big part of the course is
just opening up that intuition,opening up that ability to
listen.
Because of course, as you'redoing animal Reiki sessions, you
have to be very vigilant and youhave to do them with your eyes
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open.
You have to do them sometimes innoisy environments, but you have
to do them in a way that keepseverybody safe.
And that's really important.
And people, sometimes listeningpeople don't understand because
they think it's hearing, butit's all of those senses that I
described.
And when we can learn to listenwith all the parts of our body
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and all the parts of our being.
Then we can access all of theseex all of this extra
information.
There's a theory that animalshave an eighth chakra, and we
all know that animals can bevery intuitive and very
sensitive.
There are dogs that can sniffout cancer and that are more
accurate than some of the mostadvanced diagnostic equipment
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than that we have.
Animals always seem to know ourmood.
Animals know when we're cominghome, even though it, yeah.
Is impossible for them to know.
They usually know f 10 minutesor so before we're coming home.
And they and this extends toanimals in nature as well.
Like they're, there's a verystrong awareness and so you can
really tap into that innerawareness.
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And I've been asked to find abetter word than listening.
To describe it because so manypeople feel that listening is
just for sound.
But honestly, I can't.
I've tried perception and it'snot the same.
I've tried inner awareness.
It's not the same becausethere's an action, there's an
active part of listening.
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And so if inst, if you canfollow me on the word listening,
if you can listen with everypart of your being and that's
listening, that's like.
Trying like open to hear andactively working to hear, then
you can tap into your guidanceand what's right for you.
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And sometimes my guidance takesme places I don't really wanna
go.
And I'm sure that when yourguidance was saying Ecuador, you
had a few moments when you werelike don't know,
Karen (45:03):
that's when like when you asked for clarification then,
and you'll get it.
Then you'll, when I was supposedto go to Norway to study
reconnected healing back in 20,when was that?
I don't, 2013 I think orsomething.
2014.
And 2014.
And I remember telling my son Ihad a feeling I saw this.
And I went, huh?
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Reconnected healing.
I looked it up.
and I thought there's no classexcept in Ecuador that I could,
Ecuador in Norway that I couldgo to.
So I went and told my son, Isaid, I think I'm supposed to go
to Norway.
He was playing a game.
He's okay.
And then I, and then there was ashow that was watching, and then
it was, guess where it was?
It was Ecuador.
We were driving in the carlistening to classical music,
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and Edgar Greig came on and Isaid, Hey, guess where this
composer is from?
He said, Norway.
I said, yes.
Yeah.
And I just, everywhere I turnedfor three days.
It was like Norway.
Because I was listening, but Iwas like, I supposed to go to
Norway.
I've never been to Norway.
Hti du, how am I gonna go toNorway?
Where am I gonna get that money?
And it just happened.
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Yeah.
So it shows up and
Pam (46:06):
just pay attention
Karen (46:08):
and that's pay attention.
Maybe that's it.
It's not just listening.
It's Pay
Pam (46:11):
attention to guidance that's all around you.
Yeah, that's right.
It's about being able to payattention, like listening for
and paying attention.
That's true.
That's a good
Karen (46:21):
how much of my life did I live?
Not paying attention.
I was just, cause when you'relike focused on what you think
you're supposed to be doing andyou're like, gonna do this and
you're like this is how mostpeople live their lives, me
included, like this.
It's going straightforward withpeople.
I gotta get a degree.
I'm gonna get a master's degree,I'm gonna have a teaching
career.
I'm gonna do this.
And you just, if you're notopen, you're not gonna get any
(46:42):
guidance.
So it's
Pam (46:43):
open listening.
It's, being open and listen.
Yeah, totally.
I love that.
Karen, is there anything there?
There was something else I wasgonna mention about, but I can't
think of it now.
Oh, just, yeah.
Even for me the guidance to domy Reiki masters, I had a
million reasons in England withWilliam Rand and a million
reasons why I couldn't do that.
(47:03):
One of the biggest ones wasmoney.
Money.
And the money just showed up.
So if you can just listen andthen say yes.
I look at back at the guidanceto do the licensed teacher
program and one of my leastfavorite things in the world is
paperwork.
And Karen, you and I both knowhow much paperwork was involved
in the licensed teacher program.
It was enormous.
(47:25):
And I, as a government employeefor 12 years, thought I had done
the equivalent of paperwork thatI needed to do in my lifetime.
Karen (47:34):
aside from taxes.
Thank you.
That's.
Pam (47:36):
That was enough.
And and yet doing the licensedteacher program is one of the
best things I ever did.
And I know I'm hearing from alot of people lately who are
getting a nudge and listening totheir guidance to maybe do the
licensed teacher program or dothese other things.
And so just
Karen (47:51):
the
Pam (47:52):
option to, I, hopefully we've cleared up some of the
ways that you can open yourselfto listen to guidance and
Karen (47:58):
just expand, the very basics, like the three pillars,
right?
It's this just came to me, youground and center.
and then indication of thespirit.
So when we're doing a session,we're asking, show me where this
person needs Reiki.
But you can just do this in yourlife.
You can ground and center, youcan do Gassho, and then you can
say, show
Pam (48:14):
me.
Show me.
And then bring your hands toyour third eye and ask the Reiki
to work with your intuition.
show me Reiki,
Karen (48:20):
show me where I'm supposed to go.
Show me what I'm supposed to do.
not just for a session.
You can apply that to yourentire life.
And then when you get the, huh,then studio, then do it.
Yeah.
That's kinda what I said in theblog you have to ask, which was
really hard for me.
Ask you, listen, and then youhave to act on what you,
(48:42):
sometimes you.
Over here
Pam (48:45):
and there's a, there's another caveat.
You don't have to act on it.
Sometimes you can hear theguidance and say no or not right
now.
That's a good point.
I used to argue with my guidanceI used to, I used to go into
great detail about how Ishouldn't and couldn't and
wouldn't and all of this.
And, but over time I realizedthat my guidance always led me,
(49:07):
the Reiki guidance always led mein the direction that was best
for me.
So even when the guidance, forinstance, said I needed to join
the license teacher program andI didn't particularly want to,
at the time, I knew I was goingto follow that guidance because
it was leading me in a directionthat was going to be beneficial
to me, And
Karen (49:28):
that's another clue about guidance is.
If what you're doing is justlike a struggle, you're over
here like trying to open thisdoor and it's not opening, then
that's probably not your door,
Pam (49:37):
not your guidance.
Yeah.
And there's one other thing,Karen, I wanted to mention
before we move into a meditationtoday.
And that's just that.
Just being aware of where theguidance comes from.
You talked about our ancestorsbeing around, and they can be
around as guides, but one of thethings I heard early on with
Reiki is that they're not alwaysthe best source of Guido because
Karen (50:01):
they're not.
No.
Cause they're
Pam (50:02):
ego based.
They may have great intentions.
Yeah.
They're not coming from a highenough plane of existence to
really see the whole picture.
they're usually, rooting you onor egging you on, but they're
also still usually working toheal their own egos to learn to
grow themselves.
So they don't have all theanswers.
(50:24):
And so I just wanted to talkabout the importance of finding
the guidance that is right foryou, like tapping into that
higher level guidance and makingsure that you are actually
working with a third heaven orhigher.
Vibration and frequency, energyas your guide.
(50:45):
And there's, I would say you canask your ancestors for support,
Karen (50:48):
but you better get your guidance from some, from
Pam (50:50):
a higher plane.
Exactly.
That's what I was shown earlyon.
Yeah.
And one of the things people askis, who is my guide?
And we're gonna go into a littlemeditation to find out who your
guide is.
But here's something you shouldknow.
You probably already know yourguide.
And that is because you probablyalways had, maybe you were drawn
(51:11):
to Kenesha or Buddha or Jesus.
Or Jesus.
Yeah.
And I was
Karen (51:18):
a kid called Mother Mary.
Jesus had great big hands,
Pam (51:21):
right?
And I would imagine
Karen (51:22):
Jesus would hold me in these huge hands.
So in my mind, Jesus had hugehands and Jesus would hold me in
his hands.
So yeah, I've always been drawnto Jesus.
This followers scare me.
Pam (51:32):
There's, there are different interpretations for
sure.
Yeah.
Karen (51:35):
But where they're drawn, that's
Pam (51:36):
probably where you're drawn, is probably who has been
your guide all along.
And you also need to know thatyou can also choose your guide.
And so maybe if your guidancehasn't led you into the best of
decisions in the past, maybetake it that as a sign that
perhaps your guide is not fromthe highest vibration, and you
(51:59):
can let that guide go.
We used to have a whole processof letting go of guides with
holy fire Reiki when it firstcame in so that you could work
with the guide that was mostappropriate to, for you at that
time and at a high enough level.
And sometimes our guides take usas far as they can and then we
change.
I remember when.
(52:20):
I did study Holy fire.
I got very clear message that asmuch as I loved working with
Archangel Michael we, our workwas done together and he was
handing me off to Jesus.
And I remember being devastatedby it.
And my, I said, can I still talkto you?
And Archangel Michael said, ofcourse.
And I asked Jesus, and he said,of course, he's one of my
friends.
(52:41):
And.
But it was important for me toget over some of the hangups I
had with working with Jesus andrealize that we were going to
be, that he was the best guidefor me at that time, and I
actually never looked back fromit.
So it is possible to let go of aguide and for them to take you.
(53:02):
And Archangel Michael said I'vetaken you as far as I can, and I
didn't think you could get abetter guide than Archangel
Michael, but he said, now I'mpassing you off.
And that's okay too.
And you can also, if there'ssomeone you're drawn to, you can
do some research and then askthem to be your guide.
And you can use that distancesymbol like Karen talked about,
(53:22):
and you can send Reiki to yourguide and really form a nice
connection with them.
Especially do that for a coupleof weeks, for 10, 15 minutes a
day.
Send Reiki to your guide and.
I know I asked God once becauseWilliam Rand had written an
article about how you could sendReiki to God, and I said, God,
Reiki comes from you.
(53:42):
Why do why would I send it backto you Like, why would I send
Reiki
Karen (53:47):
to you?
Or why would I send Reiki
Pam (53:48):
to a Reiki guide somebody who's coming from this high
level of existence?
And God actually said you knowyour Reiki students.
That was back when we didattunements and now with Holy
Fire, the energy works with ourstudents directly.
But when we did attunements, theenergy would come through us and
then be transferred to them.
And he said, your Reiki studentsreceived their Reiki energy from
(54:12):
you.
and I said, yeah, theirconnection and yet you love
jumping on the table and gettinga treatment from them And I
said, yeah, and God said it'slike that.
Like we enjoy the connection andwe enjoy you sending this love,
this divine love energy to us.
(54:33):
So that's something we can do
Karen (54:35):
too.
Pam (54:36):
That's beautiful.
Ah, thank you.
And Karen, what else do we, isthere anything we missed talking
about guidance today?
Karen (54:43):
No, I think that's, I'm sure when you post this on
YouTube, people can postquestions in
Pam (54:48):
the comments.
Absolutely.
And we'll be happy to, and we
Karen (54:51):
will be happy or reach out reach out to either one of
us if you have a question andwe'd be happy to answer our 2
cents.
What we.
Yeah.
Pam (54:59):
Guys, we're gonna just wrap up our episode with a brief
meditation now to just help youopen to your guidance and
discernment and trust yourselfand and to figure out who your
guides are.
And so I'm just gonna invite youonce more to close your eyes,
just briefly bringing your handsinto Gassho, just reconnecting
(55:21):
with the Reiki energy, and thenplacing them comfortably on your
body, wherever you feel guidedand breathe.
And we just invite the Reikienergy today to bring all of the
disparate parts of ourselvesinto alignment with each other
so that we can listen with oneeffort, with every part of our
(55:48):
being and with every part of ourbeing.
Having an equal voice.
And if we have learned todistrust our intuition and our
guidance, our way of receivingenergy for any reason and in any
(56:11):
way, we just let that go today,just reconnecting with our
intuition, with every part ofour being.
And I invite you to imagine thatit's a beautiful, warm, sunny
day and that you are walkingthrough a trail in a beautiful
(56:31):
forest.
And as you walk along and as youbreathe into yourself, you
breathe in the life energy ofthe forest, and you come to the
edge of the forest and in frontof you.
It's a beautiful river.
(56:52):
It's the river of life andthere's a bridge crossing the
river.
So you decide to cross thebridge and you begin walking
along a trail beside the riverof life.
It's filled with beautifulflowers and you're approaching
(57:19):
this lovely tree.
It's enormous.
With its branch, it's reachingto the sky and then curling back
to the earth again.
Symbolizing the great circle oflife.
And partway to the tree, you seea bench and you decide to sit on
(57:42):
this bench.
And when you look over to thetree of life, From under the
great canopy, someone starts towalk towards you.
This is your Reiki guide, andsome of you listening may
(58:06):
already know your guide and maybe so excited to see them, but
for some of you, this may benew.
So I invite you to notice whatthey're wearing.
What kind of shoes do they haveon, what do they look like?
(58:30):
You notice that they're smilingat you, and there's a
recognition and there's anunderstanding that our guides
lead us even when we're unawarethat they do.
They help us in our moments ofdespair when we are open.
(58:54):
So I invite you to open yourheart now and your mind in every
part of your being as the guidecomes over and sits on the bench
with you and takes your hands.
And if you're not sure who thisguide is, you can ask them their
(59:14):
name and you can let them knowthat you're so happy that this
third heaven being is in yourlife.
(59:39):
You might wanna ask them.
about some of the guidance theyhave given you in the past, some
of the times in your life whenthey stepped in and they helped
you go ahead and ask them anyquestions that you have or just
(01:00:06):
sit enjoying the Reiki energywith them.
And one of the things that ifyou wish you can invite them to
do is the following.
One of the things I've asked myguides to do is please help me
and guide me even, andespecially when I forget to ask,
(01:00:33):
and we'll just remain here forsome time.
As all of your blocks andbarriers to receiving guidance
from this enlightened being isreleased, and if you have
(01:00:57):
received guidance from lowerlevel beings in the past, those
are released from you now.
(01:05:53):
You can feel the Reiki energiessurrounding you.
Can you take a moment now tothank your guide or your guides
for everything that they havedone for you?
and continue doing and just makea decision that you will check
(01:06:15):
in with them more frequently,knowing that they're always
there, that you are never abother to them.
They're always available to you.
They're omnipresent, able to bemany places at once.
If it feels right to you, youmay choose to embrace your
(01:06:35):
guide.
You thank them once more andjust once again, you may invite
them to guide you and heal youeven, and especially when you
forget to ask whenever you feelready and guided to do go ahead
(01:07:01):
and take a deep breath.
And come back into the room.
Karen, I want to thank you forbeing here with us today talking
about guidance.
Always a pleasure, And I justwanna thank all of the
(01:07:23):
listeners.
Do let us know if you have anyquestions, just even in the
YouTube chat or you can reachout to either of us.
Our contact information isthere.
And I hope that you enjoyfollowing your guidance and just
listening with every part ofyourself.
(01:07:43):
Namaste.
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