August 13, 2024 • 61 mins
In this special episode of Reiki from the Farm™, join Pam Allen-LeBlanc, Christian Stone, and Karen Caig as they explore the transformative power of collaboration in the Reiki business world. As they prepare for their upcoming presentation at the Reiki Business Summit, November 22-25, Pam, Christian, and Karen dive deep into the significance of working together to create thriving Reiki practices.
This episode also includes a guided meditation led by Pam, designed to activate the Reiki symbols and support you in embracing collaboration as a pathway to success. Tune in to elevate your practice and align with your highest potential through the power of partnership.
Christian Stone:
Christian Stone of Standing Stones Healing, is the founder of the Reiki Business Collective, host of the Build Your Reiki Business podcast, and creator of the Build Your Reiki Business membership program to help you build the Reiki business of your dreams.
Reiki Business Ready: https://standingstoneshealing.com/ready
Reiki Business Summit: https://standingstoneshealing.com/summit
Karen Caig has been an LRMT with the International Center for Reiki Training since 2020. Passionate about helping others find relief from stress and pain, she continues to be guided on her own healing path by Reiki. Karen's mission is to train at least one Reiki Master for every family, promoting deep healing and making the world a better place.
Get in Touch with Karen Caig:
Website: www.Reiki-Institute.com
Pam Allen-LeBlanc is a scientist, businesswoman, and Licensed Reiki Master Teacher (LRMT) with the International Center for Reiki Training.
Get in Touch with Pam:
Email: pam@reikifromthefarm.com
A special thanks goes out to Music from Pixabay for the intro music and to Nate Miller for the meditation music.
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hi and welcome to the Reiki fromthe Farm podcast brought to you
by me, Pam Allen Leblanc fromHidden Brook Farm.
I am a scientist, abusinesswoman, and a licensed
Reiki master teacher with theInternational Center for Reiki
Training.
Each week in this podcast you'llbe entertained as you learn
about a wide variety of relevantReiki topics, helping you become
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a more knowledgeable andeffective Reiki practitioner.
We caution you though, thispodcast may also dramatically
improve your life, and we are sohappy that you're here.
Pamela (00:55):
On this week's podcast, I am talking with Christian
Stone and Karen Kaig about theReiki business summit that is
coming up in November.
Welcome everybody.
Just to let you know some of thethings we have going on at the
farm in the next little while.
We have an animal Reikimasterclass in an Asian and
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European.
friendly time zone, August 19thto 23rd.
So that's coming right up.
And that class will be offeredin both English and Mandarin.
Also with some Cantonese.
We also have all of our classesgoing on online in an Atlantic
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time zone in October.
And originally I.
had planned those classes to bealso in person at the farm, but
we have had to shift those tojust online.
I was informed it, I actuallystart teaching the day of the
election the 21st of October,and I was informed that and I'm
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starting to see it now with thepace that is going to be
required from me from now untilOctober 21st, that I am going to
be exhausted.
And so the only way I think I'llbe able to offer those classes
is online, but would love tohave you join us.
We've got Reiki level one andtwo.
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Monday and Tuesday October 21st.
That's followed by three days ofa Reiki master class, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday.
The following weekend is anonline animal Reiki level one
and two class and that isfollowed by an animal Reiki
master class.
So would love to have you joinus.
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And already.
Up on the website and online.
So go ahead and check out theJanuary and February classes.
If you can't make the Octoberones would love to see you
there.
And hopefully you can also joinour Reiki shares.
I've got one actually thiscoming.
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Wednesday evening.
So hopefully you can get therefor that.
Christian, what do you havecoming up that you'd like people
to know about?
Christian (03:18):
Yeah, Pam, thanks so much.
I do just want to mention thatmy book Reiki Business Ready,
Six Ways to Know You're Readyfor a Reiki Business is ready
for pre order.
And so that book is available.
It will be available onSeptember 7.
But it is available right nowfor pre order.
Pre order and you can learn moreat standingstoneshealing.
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com slash ready
Pamela (03:41):
All right.
And we'll put, we can put thatlink to Christian in the in the
podcast notes, but that's a lotof readies in one sentence.
I'm getting, I'm definitelycatching your theme there.
He's ready.
He is ready.
And on top of that, Christian,you're hosting this wonderful
Reiki business summit as well.
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Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Karen, what do you have comingup?
Karen (04:10):
I have in September, I have regular Reiki 1 and 2 and
Reiki Master.
You can check my website.
It's Reiki Institute.
com.
And then in October, I haveAnimal Reiki 1 and 2 and Animal
Reiki Master.
And in November, we're back toregular Reiki 1 and 2.
I alternate every other month.
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Yeah.
And So regular Reiki in Novemberand then December.
I'm offering a Karuna class thefirst week of December and
Animal Reiki 1 and 2 and AnimalReiki Master.
So three classes in December.
Wonderful.
And those are all in
Pamela (04:44):
what time zone, Karen?
Those are in Central Time Zone.
Okay.
And I should mention that myOctober classes are in the
Atlantic time zone.
And then the January classes arein the Eastern time zone.
Yeah.
Guys, let's go ahead and chat alittle bit about the Reiki
Business Summit.
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Karen and I are part of theReiki Business Summit.
We're going to be talking aboutcollaborating with your Reiki
business.
But Christian, I'd like to startwith you.
What inspired you?
You know that Reiki business isreally important to me.
I wrote the Reiki business bookand and, there's no such thing
as competition with Reiki.
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We're all in the same field, butwe all work together and our
students will move.
among each other.
There is no such thing ascompetition, but it's really
important for, I think, thethree of us to help others start
Reiki businesses so that morepeople can get access to Reiki,
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the more people that, thatstretch and teach.
And also it causes people togrow.
So there's just so many reasonswhy you support your students in
stepping out of their comfortzone and doing this, but what.
inspired you to organize thisonline Reiki business summit and
what are your main goals?
Christian (06:07):
Yeah, great.
Thanks, Pam, very much.
I want to first and foremost saythank you both so much for
joining the Reiki BusinessSummit.
As I was thinking about thesummit, and I'll talk about its
origins in a moment, but as Iwas formulating it, the two of
you came to mind.
And Pam, you and I had talkedabout on my Reiki Business
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Collective series about theReiki Business book when the
Reiki Business book was comingout.
And of course I know that youare very interested in talking
about Reiki business topics.
And so I definitely wanted toinclude you as part of the
Summit.
And then of course Karen.
You and I talked for the ReikiBusiness Collective about
networking, also had a greatconversation, and of course you
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are always such a wealth ofinformation and fun and laughter
and lightness, and so I wantedto include you on the summit as
well.
So I wanted you both.
And I also know that both of youcollaborate together.
And as I was conceptualizing thesummit, I thought it would be
wonderful to have you twotogether to collaborate on the
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summit.
Now, when the summit popped intomy head.
So this was back in the spring.
I want to say it was maybeApril, late April.
I just really, of course, I talkabout Reiki business topics all
of the time.
I have the Build Your ReikiBusiness Program.
I have the Build Your ReikiBusiness Podcast.
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And I just, as we have theexperience, intuition just hits
us.
Messages just hit us.
Things just come to us.
And it was one morning.
I had been out on my morningwalk.
I came home.
I was looking at my flowers andI was like, we need to have a
Reiki business summit.
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There needs to be a Reikibusiness summit.
because of course we have lotsof Reiki business conferences.
We have of course the onlineReiki Reis Global Healing
Summit, which is an awesomesummit that also happens in
November.
We have lots of in person Reikiconferences and summits.
Many of those do include Talkingabout Reiki business in some
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way, shape, or form, as Pam, butwe don't have a specifically
Reiki business focused onlinesummit, and I thought this is
something that we need to havemy goal for it was My vision for
it is to really bring togetherReiki practitioners, business
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owners across the world where wecan really come together and
support one another and to do soin a live kind of way.
I founded the Reiki BusinessCollective, the Facebook group,
and we've got thousands ofmembers there.
It's a wonderful supportivegroup.
Sometimes we have live monthlygatherings, but I thought we
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really need something that ismuch more like a conference, a
summit, a venue, where we cancome together, learn from one
another, support one another,connect, share our experiences
and information, and reallysupport one another.
And so the reason for the ReikiBusiness Summit is to bring us
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together and to help us shareresources and support one
another as we serve the worldwith Reiki.
Pamela (09:33):
Oh, I love it, Christian.
And did you have any challengesor anything?
Tell us a bit about the planningprocess and how that's coming
together for you.
Christian (09:44):
Yeah, Pam, thanks very much.
Anytime, I don't know about you,but anytime I say yes to
something in my Reiki business,I'm saying yes to a whole heck
of a lot more than I realize.
I will just jump right in andget started.
And then it's what did I say yesto?
I do that
Pamela (10:02):
with politics, Christian.
Yes.
Yes.
I hear you.
Christian (10:06):
Yes, exactly.
Or like with my book I had theguidance for that last year.
And as I'm working on it andfinishing up, it's Oh my gosh,
this was a lot of work.
I knew a lot of work, but it wasmore work than, I knew it would
be a lot of work, but holy cow,same thing.
With anything that we do in ourReiki business, we get into it,
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we get into the weeds, and werealize, oh my gosh, I need to
whip out the machete.
And so the thing with the ReikiBusiness Summit is that my
original vision for it was forit to be two days.
It was supposed to be a two dayweekend summit.
And then as I started thinkingabout the people who I wanted to
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invite to speak at the summit, Iwas like, we're going to need to
have more days, because everyoneI asked said yes.
When you ask people toparticipate in a summit, a
conference, You're going toexpect to have people who are
going to say no, it doesn't workfor them.
But everyone I asked said yes.
And so as people were sayingyes, I was like, we're going to
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need more days.
So I needed to expand it toFriday and Monday to accommodate
all of the amazing speakers thatwe have at the summit.
And so it's, it became a.
Four day event.
Very quickly.
Pamela (11:28):
we're speaking on the Monday.
We're the, we're bringing it allhome.
We're wrapping it up.
I always wind up being the lastspeaker at most events and I
love that because, we bring ithome.
Christian (11:39):
I really thought that ending with the two of you would
just be a wonderful way to wrapit up because you've got the
great energy, you've got theexperience of collaborating with
one another, and I just knew itwould be a great way to end the
summit on a high vibe.
It's a, it really is a great wayto end the summit and I'm really
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excited that you two are onMonday.
So thank you.
Pamela (12:04):
Thank you.
I'm excited too.
I, any chance to hang out withKaren Kegg, I'm going to take.
Karen?
Karen (12:11):
Yeah.
And I love that you have theopportunity after the
presentations to ask questions.
I'm in the whole breakout roomwhere we get to interact and.
And actually give people answersto specific questions that they
have.
I think that's brilliant.
Yeah.
Christian (12:25):
That is something that I think is really often
missing with online summits.
For instance, the Reiki ReiSummit.
It's a wonderful summit.
I'm a big fan of Reiki Reis.
And there's real no opportunityto connect and to really feel
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that you're part of a community.
And so when I was puttingtogether the Reiki Business
Summit, I knew that this had tobe a part of the summit, where
yes, It's definitely awesome tohave the speakers.
It's a big part of the summit.
It's an important part, but it'salso really important for the
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community to be able to cometogether and to create
connections and meet people.
who are on the same path thatthey are to share their
challenges and frustrations andjoys of the Reiki business
journey, whether they're justconsidering starting a Reiki
business or they've been inReiki business for years.
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And so it was really importantto have that discussion and
connection and networkingcomponent as a big part of the
summit.
Karen (13:35):
I was really happy to see that, especially as it pertains
to our topic aboutcollaboration, because we're
going to tell people like, youneed to collaborate with other
people.
And they're like, what people,so you are providing an
opportunity for them to connectwith people so that they can
collaborate.
So I'm super excited about that.
Pamela (13:53):
Yeah.
forward to that too, becauseit's one thing to give a
presentation, but I just lovehaving the opportunity to answer
people's questions, specificquestions and interact with them
afterward.
And yeah, that's awesome.
And so that's one of the thingsthat does make this a little bit
different than some of the othersummits and Reiki related
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events.
What is there anything else,Christian, that I am, that it
makes this unique?
Christian (14:22):
Yeah, thanks, Pam.
This summit brings together morethan 100 years of Reiki business
experience.
And so if you take all of thespeakers and you add up all of
their Reiki business experience,it adds up to more than 100
years.
That's a lot of experience allat one summit.
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And when you attend the summit,you are getting the knowledge of
100 years, more than 100 yearsof Reiki business.
And that's pretty darn special.
And that's really exciting.
So that's something that'sspecial about the summit.
Of course, that connectioncomponent, that ability to
create connections that abilityto chat live it's something that
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you just really don't see muchof.
There was someone outside of theReiki community who I was
explaining the summit to when Iwas creating it in its early
stages and envisioning it.
And this person is a yogapractitioner, yoga teacher,
Qigong instructor.
They go to a lot of Qigongretreats and conferences.
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And they said, as far as likethe online space, that's so
unique, that doesn't exist.
And so it's really exciting tobring.
to our Reiki community somethingthat doesn't exist in that
online space to be able toconnect live and network and
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really make friends.
My goal is that people willleave the summit with new
friends, new connections newaccountability partners, new
practitioners to collaboratewith in all kinds of ways all
over the world.
And so that's the goal of thesummit, but some other ways that
the summit is unique, it is afour day summit.
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So it's four days that reallyfunctions a lot like an in
person conference, except it'sin an online space.
People can come and go as theyplease.
So there's no requirement tospend the whole four days with
the summit.
But people can pop in and out asit works for their schedule.
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They can see the speakers thatthey want to see, go to the
discussions they want to go toand take a break and then come
back.
Zoom fatigue is a real thing.
And I wanted to keep the daysshort enough that they weren't,
it wasn't stretching on and onall day, but at the same time
to.
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be enough to have somethingwhere if people couldn't join
for one part of the day, thatthey could join for another
part.
And so that's an exciting aspectof the summit as well.
So
Pamela (17:07):
they'll receive the recordings afterward, Christian,
or?
Christian (17:11):
Yes, Pam, if you register as a VIP, so the summit
has two tiers, and there'sstandard registration, which is,
access to all four days, andthen there's VIP registration,
which is access to all fourdays, plus two live Reiki
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business Q& A sessions with meafter the summit so they get an
additional way of connecting,getting questions asked and
answered, and participating inReiki business stuff two times
after the summit and as a bonusthe recordings as well.
Pamela (17:49):
Nice.
Okay.
And what are the costs for thosetwo?
It's affordable.
I love
Karen (17:55):
how affordable it is.
Yeah.
Christian (17:58):
Yeah.
Thank you, Karen.
Yeah.
I also wanted to make sure thatit was affordable because I want
to bring together the community.
And so I worked really hard notto price people out while of
course, recognizing that it is afour day conference and
recognizing that we've got.
more than 100 years ofexperience and incredible
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speakers who are joining us.
And not just yourself, butyourselves, but we also have
Colleen Bonelli.
We've got Mary Raposo, AndreaKennedy, Michaela Daystar.
I'm speaking as well.
And it, needed to have a priceaffixed to it that was not
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astronomical, but yet at thesame time honored the fact that
this is a pretty special event.
And so early bird registration,is regular registration is only
98 for the four days, and that'saccess to everything for the
four days, and then VIPregistration with those two
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additional Q& A sessions with meafter the summit, those are in
December, and the recordings ofall of the speakers is 148.
And so that's early birdpricing.
That ends in September.
So definitely I recommendgetting in on that early bird
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pricing ASAP.
Pamela (19:28):
Fantastic.
And last question Christian, howdo you think this summit is
going to help people?
What do you think people aregoing to take away from it?
Christian (19:38):
Great.
Thanks, Pam.
I think they're going to takeaway a lot.
Like they're going to need areally big bag for the
takeaways.
So first of all they are goingto be able to take away.
All of the information in thethe amazing topics from our
speakers.
So Mary Raposo is talking aboutvisibility in your Reiki
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business.
If you identify as an introvertor an HSP, an empath, visibility
can be something reallychallenging.
And so Mary Raposo is going tohelp you being visible, with
being visible in your Reikibusiness on your own terms and
how it feels right to you.
Andrea Kennedy is talking withus about clients.
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Always such a big question, howdo I get clients?
Andrea is going to help us outwith that for sure.
We've got Colleen talking aboutcreating our Reiki business
identity.
And this is something we mightthink, Oh, I'm not a new Reiki
business owner.
I don't need that.
But we know that our Reikibusiness grows, it changes and
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evolves.
And always making sure that wehave an aligned Reiki business
identity is important at allstages of our Reiki business.
And so Colleen is going to walkus through that process of
creating an aligned Reikibusiness identity.
Michaela Daystar is talking withus about having a trauma
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informed Reiki business.
This is something that is soimportant, and not many Reiki
business owners are trained onbeing trauma informed, and it's
something that we all reallyneed, and we need it
increasingly.
I don't know about you, but Isee lots of clients who have
some really big challenges withtrauma, and making sure that we
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aren't doing anything thatcontributes to trauma for our
clients is really essential toour clients and their own well
being.
So Michaela Daystar is going tohelp us out with being trauma
informed in our Reiki business.
I'm talking about community, theimportance of community in our
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Reiki business, the importanceof Having a tribe, how to find
your tribe, and how to createyour tribe as well, and how that
moves us forward in our Reikibusiness.
And of course, the two of youare talking about that very
important topic ofcollaboration.
Now, I don't know about you, butat this point, you might be
thinking, I don't need a bag, Ineed a dumpster to fit all of
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this stuff, right?
Because that's a lot of amazingtakeaways.
In addition to all of thatinformation, There is also the
connections that you just, youknow, can't you can't put the
value of that down on paper.
The connections that you'llmake, the friends that you'll
make, the insights that will besparked through the
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conversations that you'll have,And, maybe lifelong friendships
will be formed.
This is something that happensin my Reiki Business Collective
group where people meet in thegroup and end up collaborating
together, end up beingaccountability partners, end up
being friends.
And that's what I want from theReiki Business Summit as well.
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And so those are a lot oftakeaways.
You're going to need a wholedumpster.
Pamela (23:04):
I'm getting excited about that summit.
I'm looking forward to it.
That should be really nice totake in for sure.
Karen, we've got some plans totalk about collaborating and
What are some of the, I knowthat I've collaborated all the
way through my business.
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I even for the Reiki businessbook, I asked my own students to
collaborate with me with theirsuccess stories.
I asked the licensed teachers tocollaborate with me for their
Success stories, and that addedso much, I believe, to the book.
It made the book what it is.
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You and I collaborate all thetime on these events, and I find
that I wind up collaboratingwith other Reiki practitioners.
Sometimes my students, sometimesother people from other
modalities that there's just somany opportunities.
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How do you define, what's thatcollaboration look like for you?
Karen (24:12):
As you just said it can be with anybody who can hold you
accountable, help you work.
Give you ideas.
There's something aboutconnecting with another person,
especially for me, and I am astudent of human design and I
did learn that I'm a projector,meaning that I don't really have
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good sacred energy to work work,like you do Pam, I don't know
how you do what you do.
That's just not me.
And I discovered thatcollaboration is helped me
enormously in getting thingsdone.
And I've collaborated withstudents.
My very first Reiki shares thatI held I wasn't a licensed
teacher yet.
I was in Central Arkansas andone of my students, one of my
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master's students had a massagestudio in Little Rock and I
collaborated with her.
That was one of my very firstcollaboration efforts was with a
student.
all (25:05):
And,
Karen (25:06):
I was like, She was like, girl, I was like, yeah, we need
some more clients.
I said, we need to do a Reikishare.
She said, what's that?
And I said, Just sharing Reiki.
And I really had never been to aReiki share before.
I had heard about them, but wejust collaborated and put
together our own.
And then we discovered laterthat the Unity Church in Little
Rock did a type of a Reikishare.
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And we never did reach out andgo that far because ours took
off, but that was my very firstexperience.
I was scared to do a Reikishare.
I wasn't really sure what I wasdoing and she sure didn't.
She was my student.
So the thing about collaborationis like you've got to not.
Feel one, intimidated.
And also not Oh my gosh, I'm theteacher.
I've got to be, I need to knowwhat I'm doing.
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Cause I didn't.
I said, I don't know, but let'sfigure this out.
So we started a Reiki share anda once a monthly Reiki share in
Little Rock.
I would drive, it was only anhour away.
So I would drive to Little Rockand she got clients and students
cause she started teaching andit was a way for me to expand my
teaching ability.
That Reiki, as you guys know, isReiki masters.
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The Reiki master class is justthe beginning of a student's
journey.
They need that support.
That's why I love what Christiandoes so much.
So I was able to help supporther but she was getting students
down in the Little Rock area andI was getting more students and
clients and so it benefitseverybody.
To me, that's success.
If you can get financialbenefit, mental, emotional
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benefit.
From the nerves of trying to dosomething new, it's that fear
that holds us back.
But if you've got, somebody elseto hold your hand and go Do you
know what you're doing?
Let's just, like kind of Thelmaand Louisa, let's just go and
try it.
If you've got somebody to helpyou, you'll do more things.
You will get out of your comfortzone more.
Yeah, and you'll learn what Pam,what you said at the very
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beginning, that there, there'senough to go around
collaborating really teaches youabout abundance mentality, in,
instead of scarcity mentality Idon't know if I do this with
her, she's probably going to getall the students, or she's going
to get all the clients.
And you learn, even if you'vegot, you don't want to say that
loud, but if you've got that inthe back of your head, You will
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see it unfold no, there'splenty, the right students, the
right clients are going to cometo you and the right students,
the right clients are going togo to whoever, your flat,
whomever you're collaboratingwith.
Pamela (27:28):
So it occurs to me that we collaborated when you edited
my book.
Yeah.
And I
Karen (27:34):
would love to write a book but I wanted to, help get
that going because it was goodto, and,
Pamela (27:38):
Yeah, no, I love it.
And it just, it does make methink of other times that I
collaborated.
I had a, I went to two differentyoga studios and one of them was
owned by a Reiki master fromanother lineage.
And I just checked with themboth Hey, would you like me to
come in and offer a Reikimeditation once a month?
And one of them never reallyresponded.
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And then the one that had theReiki master from the other
lineage, she said, I would lovefor people to have access to
Holy Fire.
And the funny thing is first ofall, it was wildly successful.
She and I told her, I said, Idon't even care if you pay me, I
just, I just really want to get,Holy Fire was fairly new at the
time, and I wanted to get it outthere to other people and give
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access to it, and I always loveto offer now I offer my podcast
that's free I always love tohave a lower cost, or a lower
priced offering for people, anopportunity to reach them, even
if they don't have the means,and But then it was that,
because for 18, they could comeand get and, have the healing
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meditation.
And she loved it.
She actually got more Reikistudents herself because she was
a teaching Reiki master.
And then some of them werereally drawn to the holy fire
and came to me and we had, weusually had 40 people.
It was like, they filled theroom every month because in
every month I would do adifferent meditation.
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So these, there's just so manywonderful opportunities to
collaborate,
Karen (29:09):
isn't
Pamela (29:10):
there?
Karen (29:11):
And there's something about the two coming together,
two or three or whatever comingtogether it's more energy.
It just creates more enthusiasmfor something.
Pamela (29:21):
It does.
But I and I love what you said,too, about you don't even really
need to know what you're doing.
But together you support eachother and you figure it out.
And it's so much more fun tofigure it out with somebody else
than all on your own.
So anyway, I love, for instance,Karen, we collaborate when we do
podcasts.
Together on a regular basis,although I've missed you, our
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schedules haven't alignedrecently and people always say
that they love it when you and Iare together
Karen (29:50):
that's, it's a different energy.
It's a different energy that'screated when two people come
together.
And not to go back to humandesign again, but like when I
looked at my chart and otherpeople's charts that I work
with, like I have, I may havelike half of a line of something
and they have the other half, itjust works better.
Pamela (30:07):
Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
And it's nice to spread the workout and so on.
What strategies or tools do you,and actually, before I go off of
that, Christian, do you haveexamples of collaboration that
you'd like to mention?
Christian (30:23):
Oh, thanks, Pam.
I'll just mention that the ReikiBusiness Collective Discussion
Series, on which both of youhave appeared and the
discussions that we've had therehave just been a great form of
collaboration.
And, those discussions areavailable for anyone to listen
to for years.
And I think that's somethingreally beautiful about
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collaboration is that when youknow, we collaborate with other
practitioners or anyone else wemight collaborate with, we're
able to create something that isgreater than if we were just
doing it by ourselves.
And so the collaboration reallyis a beautiful thing.
And, like with those Reikibusiness collective interviews,
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those are available for yearsand years to come to support
Reiki practitioners.
Same thing with the podcast,Your discussions with Karen,
your collaborations with Karen,those are available for years
and years to come for anyone whomight listen to them and be
encouraged and inspired.
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So the collaboration really doesallow us to create something
greater than we would be able tocreate by ourselves.
The Reiki Business Summit wouldbe really boring if it was just
me for four days.
Pamela (31:43):
Yeah, it is.
It opens things up, doesn't it?
It creates a synergy.
There's a synergy that's createdwhen you collaborate.
Karen (31:51):
As he was talking, I was seeing like a puzzle.
When there are more people, likewe all have our little pieces
and we put them together, andthe more people there are, yeah,
you can have too many, what didthey say?
Too many cooks spoil the brothbut you get a richer picture,
more depth, more, moreperspective, more, just a
bigger, more beautiful picturethrough collaboration.
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So that's, yeah, it's amazing.
Pamela (32:13):
It makes me think of the reason that I started this
podcast in the first place,because in a conversation that I
was.
holding with God or source,whatever name that you use.
I could see that the energy thatI call God, it was this huge
ball of light.
And I could see that The sevenbillion at the time, I know
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there's eight billion now, butseven billion people on the
planet at that time, that eachof us was looking at one
dimension, like one aspect, andit just the energy showed me
that if, as we listen to otherpeople and listen to their
perspective, we then learn moreabout Source, or God, or Reiki,
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and all of that.
And I thought, if I can bring onall of these guests, and I think
we've recorded at this pointmore than 300 podcasts.
It's, yeah, we've, it's beengoing for a while.
It's up there 200 maybe, butbetween two and 300.
And I realized if I could bringon all these guests, we it gives
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us access to all theseperspectives.
And then we know it so muchbetter.
And there's a description ofblind people attempting to
describe an elephant and one istouching the ear and one is
touching the tail and one istouching the foot.
And so obviously they'redescribing the part of the
elephant that they're touching,they, they don't really have the
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whole picture until they beginto collaborate.
And yeah, just a thought.
I thought that might shoot inthere.
That's it.
I was getting that same picture.
That's perfect.
Yeah, I love it.
Do you guys have any advice forReiki practitioners who are
hesitant to collaborate withothers?
Karen (34:04):
Let me go first.
I would say don't compareyourself to the people you're
collaborating with because I gotintimidated.
I got intimidated by, okay, I'mjust going to say this out loud,
Pam.
I don't know if I've ever toldyou this, but you have an MBA
and I don't know when I startcollaborating with somebody, I
start, Asking myself what do Ibring to the table?
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And then I start looking at thepeople I'm collaborating with.
I'm like gosh, they've got thisand that and so much more
experience.
And and then you just start,it's Pam and I did a podcast
about this, like impostersyndrome, but I don't even need
to be in this circle.
I should not even be herecollaborating with anybody
because I don't know anything.
And then you get in your head,thank you, Reiki.
So I would advise that youremind yourself that This is
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the, I think all collaborationswhen they come together, like
when you get these, I'm aprojector so that meaning when I
get an invitation like would youlike to do this and I get it.
Yeah, I would.
That didn't happen on accident.
There's a reason you're there.
You do have.
something to offer or youwouldn't be there.
And don't get caught up in thatmind trap of, gosh, Pam's been
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practicing Reiki longer than Ihave, or she's got more business
experience than I do.
Don't do that.
Just go with what you've got.
You're there for a reason.
So bring to the table whatyou've got and and show up.
Show up.
So much of life is just showingup.
Like you just, you have to getpast that fear and just show up.
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And then maybe that's where the.
The bond comes in collaboratingbecause you do show up so
vulnerable.
And then you realize the otherperson might be thinking the
same thing.
Oh I'm not as talkative asKaren.
Karen really was like, I'm notas much fun as Karen.
I don't know.
They may be thinking the samething.
So you have to, you show up withwhat you've got to the
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collaboration and and add yourpart.
Pamela (35:57):
That's my biggest piece of advice.
I think it's excellent advice.
We're stronger than the sum ofour parts when we do that.
Karen (36:04):
Yeah, you're just a part.
So don't put so much pressure onyourself.
You're just a part of it.
See what you've got to offer.
Oh,
Pamela (36:12):
yeah.
And it makes it easier to nothave to, like Kristen said, like
not have to do the whole thing.
And
all (36:18):
yeah.
Pamela (36:19):
It occurs to me that something that I would give for
advice is that sometimes youwill hear no, that other people
maybe don't want to collaboratewith you.
I know I got my feelings hurtrecently by somebody who didn't
want to collaborate.
And I think that's just animportant part of it to realize
that, It's okay to have no, andeven with the yoga studios, one
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yoga studio said no, and onesaid yes.
And so just not to let the noseget you down.
It doesn't mean that, it's justprobably, and it doesn't even
mean that it's the wrong fit.
It just might be the wrong timeor something like that.
Or maybe a misunderstanding orof what you're offering or, we
don't know what's going on inthat other person's life.
(37:04):
So I think that My advice isthat occasionally somebody will
say no I don't want tocollaborate with you and that's
okay like just take that as okaythat one doesn't but maybe
somebody else will and carry ondon't get too stuck on the what
is it we say in Reiki you knowdon't get attached to the
results.
Just know for now.
(37:25):
Yeah, for now and, or maybe noto this one thing or whatever
have you and but it will, itdoesn't mean no to all
collaborations or maybe thatthere isn't a better partner
that maybe you weren't thinkingabout.
So this will help you there.
What about you, Christian, wouldyou have any advice for
somebody?
Christian (37:46):
Yes, thank you.
I love that you both said whatyou said because it really
matches nicely with my thoughts,which are that so often when we
are looking to considercollaborating with someone and
we're being held back and we'refeeling hesitant, so often it's
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because we're afraid of lookingfoolish, or we're afraid of
failing.
And so I think that in terms ofcollaboration, knowing that,
part of the reason that, that wemight feel challenged with
collaboration is that we'reafraid to be vulnerable or to
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feel vulnerable, to openourselves up to maybe potential
partner that we're collaboratingwith doesn't like the way that
we're doing things or like ourideas on certain things, that
they're going to bring their ownideas and they might not like
all of ours.
It's that fear of, quote,failure, that fear of opening
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ourselves up to being rejectedand the criticism.
And I think like Karen said,absolutely knowing that you have
valuable things to share isreally important.
No matter where you are on yourjourney, we all have valid and
valuable things to say.
I don't know about you, but myReiki level one students teach
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me all of the time.
That, that act of being in incollaboration is a learning kind
of experience.
And the level one students.
you might think, I've gotnothing to teach Christian.
I learned from my level onestudents all of the time.
And along with what Pam said,that idea of people are going to
say, no, yes, indeed, you'regoing to have rejection.
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You're going to have a partneryou're, you want to collaborate
with who you bring up an idea tothem.
And they're like I don't knowhow I feel about that.
And so knowing that Thosefeelings of feeling vulnerable,
that fear of failure, is just acompletely normal part of the
experience.
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And to know that rejection isgoing to happen, the no's are
going to happen, but yet, itdoesn't mean that what you have
to share isn't valuable.
It doesn't mean that it's nothelpful.
It doesn't mean that it, itdoesn't have value.
It just means that, it's part ofthe experience.
Pamela (40:18):
I love it.
Sorry, I was listening so hardto you.
I forgot that I need to askanother question.
Oh, wait, that's me.
What would you guys define as asuccessful collaboration?
Karen (40:38):
You go first, Christian.
Christian (40:40):
Okay, sure.
One, one that feels good.
One that feels good.
And that feels good to allparties involved.
And one that feels positive.
I don't know about you, but I'mreally enjoying this
conversation, and I feel reallypositive in it.
And to me, that's a successfulcollaboration.
Whatever happens after this,doesn't matter because to me
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this is a positivecollaboration.
I'm enjoying it.
I'm getting benefit out of it.
I hope that you are too.
And if you are too, then I wouldsay that this collaboration is
successful.
It's been a success.
And that to me is what reallymatters, that it feels good and
feels positive to all partiesinvolved.
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That's a successfulcollaboration no matter what the
outcome might be.
When we collaborate, we mighthave this vision of, Oh my gosh,
we're going to have just all ofthis amazing Outpouring of
response, it's going to beincredible, it's going to be
crazy.
Now listen, I don't know aboutall of you and your Reiki
business, but I always thinkthat it's going to be amazing,
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and it's usually not quite asamazing as my vision.
But if it's if there's enjoymentin the experience and in the
process, that's enough.
That's enough for a successfulcollaboration.
Pamela (42:02):
I love that.
I love that.
And I always say if it helpedone person, then I'm happy.
If whatever I did helped oneperson, then it's working.
It's enough.
So yeah.
Karen, what about you?
What are
Karen (42:16):
your thoughts?
I would say But you learnsomething from it that makes it
successful.
You may collaborate with afellow Reiki practitioner and
maybe do a health fair orsomething.
And they're like, Christian willbe like, this is going to be
amazing, and you get your boothall set up and you know what
you're going to do.
And you're going to give someReiki, some sample Reiki and
pass things out.
And it's, you're going to get somany clients and students and
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maybe you don't.
Pamela (42:39):
And maybe nobody shows up to the fair.
Exactly.
Karen (42:43):
Bye.
But if you learn something like,okay maybe.
Maybe maybe it starts making youthink about what is, why do
people walk by and they didn'twant Reiki?
What is it about our branding?
What is it about, if you learnsomething, like how could we do
it differently next time?
Or even, is this worth our time?
Maybe this is not a goodbusiness expense, one thing
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about collaborating on thingslike that is you can share the
cost of the booth or whatever,but you may come to the
conclusion that, Maybe thisisn't worth our time.
Maybe we should try somethingelse.
So if you learn something, thenI think that's a.
a successful collaboration.
And then also because you'recollaborating, you have someone
to commiserate with if you fail.
That's right.
You can go to dinner
Pamela (43:24):
with.
Karen (43:25):
Yeah, exactly.
Let's take this three dollars wemade and go go get a smoothie or
something.
Pamela (43:33):
You just reminded me of something that I wanted a
collaboration that I totallyforgot to mention at the
beginning of the podcast, andthat is that I've been asked to
attend the Frederictonexhibition, which is happening
just after Labor Day weekend.
And so I have, I'll have a booththere.
I'll be speaking at theexhibition and I'll have a booth
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there that I'd like any of myFredericton area Reiki
practitioners of any, and AnimalReiki Practitioners, if you'd
like to come and share the boothand use the booth to even
promote yourselves to just reachout and let me know because I'd
love to have you join me there.
And so that's, yeah, there'salways opportunities like that.
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And I won't be able to man thebooth the whole time.
So there's there are going to behours that some of the rest of
you could have to promote yourbusinesses.
So I just like to encouragethat.
That's just a great
Karen (44:29):
idea.
See, that's a greatcollaboration invitation.
Pamela (44:33):
Yes, thank you.
So do you guys have anystrategies or tools?
Our final question that you'drecommend for effective
collaboration and communicationbetween Reiki practitioners?
Karen (44:45):
Google Drive.
Pamela (44:47):
Yes,
Karen (44:47):
Google Drive.
Google Drive.
That's how you and I did mybook.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
But that was it.
But that's amazing because youcan, I could be.
making a comment in real time.
We could collab, and she's inCanada, and I was in the United
States at the time, but, look,the three of us, we're on three
continents I guess you guys areon the same continent, but we're
in three different countries,and through Google Drive, we can
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share.
I also work on a project herewith the Kichwa Indigenous
Spiritual Center, and we useGoogle Drive.
We can upload videos, we can dothat for social media, and it's.
It's really helpful.
And I also have used in the pastwith larger groups a free app
called Trello, T R E L O.
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I don't know if you guys haveused that, but but you can like
assign tasks and you can clickwhen it's done.
You can move things over, moveit through The workflow it's
very business y but it'shelpful, to get stuff done.
Pamela (45:44):
I love the Kermit the Frog voice that you used there
for the business y.
Yeah, sorry.
Karen (45:50):
No, I actually did really love it.
Yes, it feels it feels verybusiness y.
You'll need to change my voicefor that.
Pamela (45:57):
No, and I'm thinking, ooh, Trello.
Maybe that's something I shoulduse with my campaign team.
So I'm going to have my daughtercheck it out.
Thank you, Karen.
And what about you, Christian?
Anything you'd recommend?
Christian (46:11):
Yeah, I do, Pam.
Thanks.
So if there's someone you'reconsidering collaborating with,
thinking that you might like todo some kind of joint project,
collaborate in some way, Iencourage having an idea of how
you might like to collaboratewith them when you reach out.
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So I don't know about you, butI've gotten people who have
messaged me, contacted me andsay, Christian, I'd love to work
with you.
We should collaborate sometime.
And that's it.
That's all they say.
And it's okay, so then I'll askthem, okay, do you have anything
in mind?
Anything in particular in mind?
No, we should just do somethingtogether.
(46:52):
I have no idea what your visionis, so I'm going to say sorry,
no thanks, because there'snothing to say yes or no to.
But if you reach out withsomeone with something in mind,
and you don't have to have thefull vision, so you don't have
to know exactly what it is, whatit's going to be, how it's going
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to go, but just have somegeneral idea.
That gives the person you'rereaching out to something to
latch on to in terms ofsomething to say yes or no to,
give them something to reject orto think about, even if it's not
a yes right away.
And that involves havingsomething a little bit more
(47:35):
concrete than, we should worktogether sometime.
That could be a milliondifferent things.
So approach them with some kindof idea, even if it, of course,
is not fully formed, but justsomething for them to think
about and accept or reject.
Pamela (47:53):
That is a
Karen (47:54):
really good point.
Pamela (47:55):
Yeah, that is.
And then not being too struck onthe outcome.
Like it has to be exactly likethis or anything like that.
Being flexible once they likehave the original idea with some
detail, but not being so struckon it.
Because if somebody says Iwouldn't feel comfortable with
that, but what about this?
Or, Oh, great.
And, or maybe they take youridea and they run with it and
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they go in a completelydifferent direction than what
you originally had.
Some divine intervention.
Maybe that new direction is justwhere you need to go.
Karen (48:28):
That's a really good point.
I remember when one of mystudents in England, Duncan
yeah, I've collaborated with hima lot, but he asked me, we had a
conversation once about, this isbefore Reiki trails with your
feet, but he said, Kyra, and hesaid, that part, that bit in
Reiki one, we talk about Usui,giving Reiki with his feet.
And I'm like, yeah, he said, weshould do an article about,
doing.
Reiki with your feet.
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No way.
And so that was very specific,but it wasn't like what about
doing Reiki with your feet?
And so I'm like, huh, thatsounds interesting.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
And then I had, like Christiansaid, I had something to respond
to, and then we came up withlet's do some experimenting.
Let's do different symbols.
Let's try in different places.
Let's try, and then we just wentback and forth across the pond
through what did we use?
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It's important to decide a goodway to communicate.
What's the best for you?
Karen Harrison contacted me lastnight.
I sent her a message throughFacebook Messenger and she said,
you need to send me a text, ifyou want a quicker response,
those sorts of things are alsoKathy Milanowski, she's always
Facebook Messenger, but anyway,but we just communicated through
Facebook Messenger and it workedthat way.
(49:32):
So yeah, but he gave mesomething to respond to, like
Christian said.
Otherwise, if he just said weshould write an article sometime
and be like, yeah, that'd becool.
And then it would stay with it.
Yeah.
I
Pamela (49:45):
love it.
Good idea.
That's really good.
Guys, before we go into ameditation today, is there any
last words?
That you would like ourlisteners to hear.
Christian (49:56):
Yes, thank you for listening and thank you for
being here.
Pamela (50:01):
Awesome.
I'm going to invite you guys tojoin me in this meditation.
And this is just a meditation tojust help us embrace
collaboration with Reiki energy.
So I just want to inviteeverybody to make yourselves
comfortable.
You can be seated or lying down.
If you're driving, just hitpause right now, and just close
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your eyes.
Take a deep breath, bringingyour hands into Gassho, just
activating your Reiki energy.
And just allowing your breath toanchor you into this present
moment.
(50:45):
We acknowledge the enlightenedbeings, the brothers and sisters
of the light, the divineanimals, the angels, the
archangels who are standing atthe corners of the land and on
every side of us, always readyand willing to assist us if we
just remember to ask.
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And we thank them for theirdivine assistance and ask them
to help us even and especiallywhen we do forget to ask.
And just placing your handscomfortably on your body now.
Just imagine that you'restanding at the entrance to a
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beautiful, peaceful forest.
The air is fresh and there arenature sounds all around you.
And as you walk along with eachstep that you take, you feel
more grounded and more connectedto the earth beneath your feet.
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And as you walk deeper anddeeper into the forest, you
eventually come to a beautifulclearing that is bathed in
golden light.
In the center of the clearing isa circle of ancient trees.
Their branches form a naturalsanctuary and you feel drawn to
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enter into this sacred space.
Once you're inside this circle,I invite you to sit in the
center of it and just take amoment to connect with your
heart space.
(52:35):
And as you do, you.
Notice the warmth and light ofthe Reiki energy inside of you.
Expand, just filling your entirebeing, moving out beyond
yourself, filling the entireclearing.
(52:55):
I invite you to move your handsnow to your heart and just
invite the power of each of theReiki symbols to awaken within
you.
(53:17):
And if you have symbols, I justinvite you to visualize them
along with me.
And if you don't And we make oursymbols available to you today.
And just imagine the powersymbol is in front of you,
glowing with brilliant light,and as you notice it, you just
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feel its energy surround you,grounding and protecting you.
Take a deep breath in, and onyour exhale, just releasing any
tension or worry, allowing thepower symbol to bring you into
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alignment with your highestself.
Now visualize the mentalemotional symbol floating gently
above your head.
(54:25):
And as you notice it, just feelit activating your emotional and
mental balance, allowing itsenergy to clear any lingering
doubts or fears and justreplacing them with a sense of
peace and harmony.
(54:58):
Now notice the distance symbolappearing in front of you,
connecting you to the limitlesspotential of the universe.
So often when we see one or two,maybe three solutions, the
universe is aware of 18 or 20 ormore.
(55:26):
And so as you notice thissymbol, just feel it creating a
bridge between you and all ofthose whom you are meant to
collaborate with in your lifeand business.
Just allowing its energy to openthe channels of communication
and understanding.
(55:50):
Fostering connections that arebeneficial and fulfilling.
And finally, if you have mastersymbols, just imagine all of
them.
The Isui Master Symbol, HolyFire, Karuna Master Symbols,
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Animal Reiki Master Symbols, orany others.
And just notice those symbolsswirling around you, shining
brightly and moving into yourheart.
And just notice how thesesymbols amplify all of the other
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symbols and everything that camebefore it and allowing these
master symbols to merge theirenergies within you.
These master symbols bring youinto alignment with your true
purpose.
(56:57):
Empowering you to step into yourrole as a healer and
collaborator, teacher, whateverit may be on your path that
allows you to bring more loveand more Reiki into the world.
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And that begins with each of usbringing it into our personal
lives, our personal worlds, andthen just allowing it to expand
out to our loved ones, ouracquaintances.
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our communities, and thenbeyond.
And as you bask in the energy ofthese symbols, I invite you to
consider any projects,partnerships, or collaborations
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that you are currently involvedwith or that you wish to
manifest and send the Reikienergy to these and just see
them flourishing with ease andgrace guided.
(58:29):
by the wisdom and power ofReiki.
In fact, if you can justsurrender them to Reiki and
allow Reiki to lead and guidethem.
And just trusting that theuniverse is supporting you every
step of the way.
We'll just spend a few momentsin silence here together today.
(01:00:29):
You can stay in this space foras long as you'd like.
Whenever you feel ready, justbring your awareness back to
this moment in time.
Take a deep breath in and as youexhale, just slowly opening your
eyes, knowing that you carry theenergy of this meditation with
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you and being ready to infuseevery aspect of your life and
work with the power of Reiki.
Thank you so much for being withus here today and I hope some of
you decide to join us at theReiki Business Summit so we can
(01:01:13):
have an expanded conversation onthis.
Thank you.
Namaste.
Thanks everyone.
Whoops, that's not what I meantto do.
hi and welcome to the Reiki fromthe Farm podcast brought to you
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Pamela (00:55):
On this week's podcast, I am talking with Christian
Stone and Karen Kaig about theReiki business summit that is
coming up in November.
Welcome everybody.
Just to let you know some of thethings we have going on at the
farm in the next little while.
We have an animal Reikimasterclass in an Asian and
(01:19):
European.
friendly time zone, August 19thto 23rd.
So that's coming right up.
And that class will be offeredin both English and Mandarin.
Also with some Cantonese.
We also have all of our classesgoing on online in an Atlantic
(01:39):
time zone in October.
And originally I.
had planned those classes to bealso in person at the farm, but
we have had to shift those tojust online.
I was informed it, I actuallystart teaching the day of the
election the 21st of October,and I was informed that and I'm
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starting to see it now with thepace that is going to be
required from me from now untilOctober 21st, that I am going to
be exhausted.
And so the only way I think I'llbe able to offer those classes
is online, but would love tohave you join us.
We've got Reiki level one andtwo.
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Monday and Tuesday October 21st.
That's followed by three days ofa Reiki master class, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday.
The following weekend is anonline animal Reiki level one
and two class and that isfollowed by an animal Reiki
master class.
So would love to have you joinus.
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And already.
Up on the website and online.
So go ahead and check out theJanuary and February classes.
If you can't make the Octoberones would love to see you
there.
And hopefully you can also joinour Reiki shares.
I've got one actually thiscoming.
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Wednesday evening.
So hopefully you can get therefor that.
Christian, what do you havecoming up that you'd like people
to know about?
Christian (03:18):
Yeah, Pam, thanks so much.
I do just want to mention thatmy book Reiki Business Ready,
Six Ways to Know You're Readyfor a Reiki Business is ready
for pre order.
And so that book is available.
It will be available onSeptember 7.
But it is available right nowfor pre order.
Pre order and you can learn moreat standingstoneshealing.
(03:39):
com slash ready
Pamela (03:41):
All right.
And we'll put, we can put thatlink to Christian in the in the
podcast notes, but that's a lotof readies in one sentence.
I'm getting, I'm definitelycatching your theme there.
He's ready.
He is ready.
And on top of that, Christian,you're hosting this wonderful
Reiki business summit as well.
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Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Karen, what do you have comingup?
Karen (04:10):
I have in September, I have regular Reiki 1 and 2 and
Reiki Master.
You can check my website.
It's Reiki Institute.
com.
And then in October, I haveAnimal Reiki 1 and 2 and Animal
Reiki Master.
And in November, we're back toregular Reiki 1 and 2.
I alternate every other month.
(04:31):
Yeah.
And So regular Reiki in Novemberand then December.
I'm offering a Karuna class thefirst week of December and
Animal Reiki 1 and 2 and AnimalReiki Master.
So three classes in December.
Wonderful.
And those are all in
Pamela (04:44):
what time zone, Karen?
Those are in Central Time Zone.
Okay.
And I should mention that myOctober classes are in the
Atlantic time zone.
And then the January classes arein the Eastern time zone.
Yeah.
Guys, let's go ahead and chat alittle bit about the Reiki
Business Summit.
(05:05):
Karen and I are part of theReiki Business Summit.
We're going to be talking aboutcollaborating with your Reiki
business.
But Christian, I'd like to startwith you.
What inspired you?
You know that Reiki business isreally important to me.
I wrote the Reiki business bookand and, there's no such thing
as competition with Reiki.
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We're all in the same field, butwe all work together and our
students will move.
among each other.
There is no such thing ascompetition, but it's really
important for, I think, thethree of us to help others start
Reiki businesses so that morepeople can get access to Reiki,
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the more people that, thatstretch and teach.
And also it causes people togrow.
So there's just so many reasonswhy you support your students in
stepping out of their comfortzone and doing this, but what.
inspired you to organize thisonline Reiki business summit and
what are your main goals?
Christian (06:07):
Yeah, great.
Thanks, Pam, very much.
I want to first and foremost saythank you both so much for
joining the Reiki BusinessSummit.
As I was thinking about thesummit, and I'll talk about its
origins in a moment, but as Iwas formulating it, the two of
you came to mind.
And Pam, you and I had talkedabout on my Reiki Business
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Collective series about theReiki Business book when the
Reiki Business book was comingout.
And of course I know that youare very interested in talking
about Reiki business topics.
And so I definitely wanted toinclude you as part of the
Summit.
And then of course Karen.
You and I talked for the ReikiBusiness Collective about
networking, also had a greatconversation, and of course you
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are always such a wealth ofinformation and fun and laughter
and lightness, and so I wantedto include you on the summit as
well.
So I wanted you both.
And I also know that both of youcollaborate together.
And as I was conceptualizing thesummit, I thought it would be
wonderful to have you twotogether to collaborate on the
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summit.
Now, when the summit popped intomy head.
So this was back in the spring.
I want to say it was maybeApril, late April.
I just really, of course, I talkabout Reiki business topics all
of the time.
I have the Build Your ReikiBusiness Program.
I have the Build Your ReikiBusiness Podcast.
(07:38):
And I just, as we have theexperience, intuition just hits
us.
Messages just hit us.
Things just come to us.
And it was one morning.
I had been out on my morningwalk.
I came home.
I was looking at my flowers andI was like, we need to have a
Reiki business summit.
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There needs to be a Reikibusiness summit.
because of course we have lotsof Reiki business conferences.
We have of course the onlineReiki Reis Global Healing
Summit, which is an awesomesummit that also happens in
November.
We have lots of in person Reikiconferences and summits.
Many of those do include Talkingabout Reiki business in some
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way, shape, or form, as Pam, butwe don't have a specifically
Reiki business focused onlinesummit, and I thought this is
something that we need to havemy goal for it was My vision for
it is to really bring togetherReiki practitioners, business
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owners across the world where wecan really come together and
support one another and to do soin a live kind of way.
I founded the Reiki BusinessCollective, the Facebook group,
and we've got thousands ofmembers there.
It's a wonderful supportivegroup.
Sometimes we have live monthlygatherings, but I thought we
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really need something that ismuch more like a conference, a
summit, a venue, where we cancome together, learn from one
another, support one another,connect, share our experiences
and information, and reallysupport one another.
And so the reason for the ReikiBusiness Summit is to bring us
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together and to help us shareresources and support one
another as we serve the worldwith Reiki.
Pamela (09:33):
Oh, I love it, Christian.
And did you have any challengesor anything?
Tell us a bit about the planningprocess and how that's coming
together for you.
Christian (09:44):
Yeah, Pam, thanks very much.
Anytime, I don't know about you,but anytime I say yes to
something in my Reiki business,I'm saying yes to a whole heck
of a lot more than I realize.
I will just jump right in andget started.
And then it's what did I say yesto?
I do that
Pamela (10:02):
with politics, Christian.
Yes.
Yes.
I hear you.
Christian (10:06):
Yes, exactly.
Or like with my book I had theguidance for that last year.
And as I'm working on it andfinishing up, it's Oh my gosh,
this was a lot of work.
I knew a lot of work, but it wasmore work than, I knew it would
be a lot of work, but holy cow,same thing.
With anything that we do in ourReiki business, we get into it,
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we get into the weeds, and werealize, oh my gosh, I need to
whip out the machete.
And so the thing with the ReikiBusiness Summit is that my
original vision for it was forit to be two days.
It was supposed to be a two dayweekend summit.
And then as I started thinkingabout the people who I wanted to
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invite to speak at the summit, Iwas like, we're going to need to
have more days, because everyoneI asked said yes.
When you ask people toparticipate in a summit, a
conference, You're going toexpect to have people who are
going to say no, it doesn't workfor them.
But everyone I asked said yes.
And so as people were sayingyes, I was like, we're going to
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need more days.
So I needed to expand it toFriday and Monday to accommodate
all of the amazing speakers thatwe have at the summit.
And so it's, it became a.
Four day event.
Very quickly.
Pamela (11:28):
we're speaking on the Monday.
We're the, we're bringing it allhome.
We're wrapping it up.
I always wind up being the lastspeaker at most events and I
love that because, we bring ithome.
Christian (11:39):
I really thought that ending with the two of you would
just be a wonderful way to wrapit up because you've got the
great energy, you've got theexperience of collaborating with
one another, and I just knew itwould be a great way to end the
summit on a high vibe.
It's a, it really is a great wayto end the summit and I'm really
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excited that you two are onMonday.
So thank you.
Pamela (12:04):
Thank you.
I'm excited too.
I, any chance to hang out withKaren Kegg, I'm going to take.
Karen?
Karen (12:11):
Yeah.
And I love that you have theopportunity after the
presentations to ask questions.
I'm in the whole breakout roomwhere we get to interact and.
And actually give people answersto specific questions that they
have.
I think that's brilliant.
Yeah.
Christian (12:25):
That is something that I think is really often
missing with online summits.
For instance, the Reiki ReiSummit.
It's a wonderful summit.
I'm a big fan of Reiki Reis.
And there's real no opportunityto connect and to really feel
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that you're part of a community.
And so when I was puttingtogether the Reiki Business
Summit, I knew that this had tobe a part of the summit, where
yes, It's definitely awesome tohave the speakers.
It's a big part of the summit.
It's an important part, but it'salso really important for the
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community to be able to cometogether and to create
connections and meet people.
who are on the same path thatthey are to share their
challenges and frustrations andjoys of the Reiki business
journey, whether they're justconsidering starting a Reiki
business or they've been inReiki business for years.
(13:27):
And so it was really importantto have that discussion and
connection and networkingcomponent as a big part of the
summit.
Karen (13:35):
I was really happy to see that, especially as it pertains
to our topic aboutcollaboration, because we're
going to tell people like, youneed to collaborate with other
people.
And they're like, what people,so you are providing an
opportunity for them to connectwith people so that they can
collaborate.
So I'm super excited about that.
Pamela (13:53):
Yeah.
forward to that too, becauseit's one thing to give a
presentation, but I just lovehaving the opportunity to answer
people's questions, specificquestions and interact with them
afterward.
And yeah, that's awesome.
And so that's one of the thingsthat does make this a little bit
different than some of the othersummits and Reiki related
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events.
What is there anything else,Christian, that I am, that it
makes this unique?
Christian (14:22):
Yeah, thanks, Pam.
This summit brings together morethan 100 years of Reiki business
experience.
And so if you take all of thespeakers and you add up all of
their Reiki business experience,it adds up to more than 100
years.
That's a lot of experience allat one summit.
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And when you attend the summit,you are getting the knowledge of
100 years, more than 100 yearsof Reiki business.
And that's pretty darn special.
And that's really exciting.
So that's something that'sspecial about the summit.
Of course, that connectioncomponent, that ability to
create connections that abilityto chat live it's something that
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you just really don't see muchof.
There was someone outside of theReiki community who I was
explaining the summit to when Iwas creating it in its early
stages and envisioning it.
And this person is a yogapractitioner, yoga teacher,
Qigong instructor.
They go to a lot of Qigongretreats and conferences.
(15:30):
And they said, as far as likethe online space, that's so
unique, that doesn't exist.
And so it's really exciting tobring.
to our Reiki community somethingthat doesn't exist in that
online space to be able toconnect live and network and
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really make friends.
My goal is that people willleave the summit with new
friends, new connections newaccountability partners, new
practitioners to collaboratewith in all kinds of ways all
over the world.
And so that's the goal of thesummit, but some other ways that
the summit is unique, it is afour day summit.
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So it's four days that reallyfunctions a lot like an in
person conference, except it'sin an online space.
People can come and go as theyplease.
So there's no requirement tospend the whole four days with
the summit.
But people can pop in and out asit works for their schedule.
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They can see the speakers thatthey want to see, go to the
discussions they want to go toand take a break and then come
back.
Zoom fatigue is a real thing.
And I wanted to keep the daysshort enough that they weren't,
it wasn't stretching on and onall day, but at the same time
to.
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be enough to have somethingwhere if people couldn't join
for one part of the day, thatthey could join for another
part.
And so that's an exciting aspectof the summit as well.
So
Pamela (17:07):
they'll receive the recordings afterward, Christian,
or?
Christian (17:11):
Yes, Pam, if you register as a VIP, so the summit
has two tiers, and there'sstandard registration, which is,
access to all four days, andthen there's VIP registration,
which is access to all fourdays, plus two live Reiki
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business Q& A sessions with meafter the summit so they get an
additional way of connecting,getting questions asked and
answered, and participating inReiki business stuff two times
after the summit and as a bonusthe recordings as well.
Pamela (17:49):
Nice.
Okay.
And what are the costs for thosetwo?
It's affordable.
I love
Karen (17:55):
how affordable it is.
Yeah.
Christian (17:58):
Yeah.
Thank you, Karen.
Yeah.
I also wanted to make sure thatit was affordable because I want
to bring together the community.
And so I worked really hard notto price people out while of
course, recognizing that it is afour day conference and
recognizing that we've got.
more than 100 years ofexperience and incredible
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speakers who are joining us.
And not just yourself, butyourselves, but we also have
Colleen Bonelli.
We've got Mary Raposo, AndreaKennedy, Michaela Daystar.
I'm speaking as well.
And it, needed to have a priceaffixed to it that was not
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astronomical, but yet at thesame time honored the fact that
this is a pretty special event.
And so early bird registration,is regular registration is only
98 for the four days, and that'saccess to everything for the
four days, and then VIPregistration with those two
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additional Q& A sessions with meafter the summit, those are in
December, and the recordings ofall of the speakers is 148.
And so that's early birdpricing.
That ends in September.
So definitely I recommendgetting in on that early bird
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pricing ASAP.
Pamela (19:28):
Fantastic.
And last question Christian, howdo you think this summit is
going to help people?
What do you think people aregoing to take away from it?
Christian (19:38):
Great.
Thanks, Pam.
I think they're going to takeaway a lot.
Like they're going to need areally big bag for the
takeaways.
So first of all they are goingto be able to take away.
All of the information in thethe amazing topics from our
speakers.
So Mary Raposo is talking aboutvisibility in your Reiki
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business.
If you identify as an introvertor an HSP, an empath, visibility
can be something reallychallenging.
And so Mary Raposo is going tohelp you being visible, with
being visible in your Reikibusiness on your own terms and
how it feels right to you.
Andrea Kennedy is talking withus about clients.
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Always such a big question, howdo I get clients?
Andrea is going to help us outwith that for sure.
We've got Colleen talking aboutcreating our Reiki business
identity.
And this is something we mightthink, Oh, I'm not a new Reiki
business owner.
I don't need that.
But we know that our Reikibusiness grows, it changes and
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evolves.
And always making sure that wehave an aligned Reiki business
identity is important at allstages of our Reiki business.
And so Colleen is going to walkus through that process of
creating an aligned Reikibusiness identity.
Michaela Daystar is talking withus about having a trauma
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informed Reiki business.
This is something that is soimportant, and not many Reiki
business owners are trained onbeing trauma informed, and it's
something that we all reallyneed, and we need it
increasingly.
I don't know about you, but Isee lots of clients who have
some really big challenges withtrauma, and making sure that we
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aren't doing anything thatcontributes to trauma for our
clients is really essential toour clients and their own well
being.
So Michaela Daystar is going tohelp us out with being trauma
informed in our Reiki business.
I'm talking about community, theimportance of community in our
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Reiki business, the importanceof Having a tribe, how to find
your tribe, and how to createyour tribe as well, and how that
moves us forward in our Reikibusiness.
And of course, the two of youare talking about that very
important topic ofcollaboration.
Now, I don't know about you, butat this point, you might be
thinking, I don't need a bag, Ineed a dumpster to fit all of
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this stuff, right?
Because that's a lot of amazingtakeaways.
In addition to all of thatinformation, There is also the
connections that you just, youknow, can't you can't put the
value of that down on paper.
The connections that you'llmake, the friends that you'll
make, the insights that will besparked through the
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conversations that you'll have,And, maybe lifelong friendships
will be formed.
This is something that happensin my Reiki Business Collective
group where people meet in thegroup and end up collaborating
together, end up beingaccountability partners, end up
being friends.
And that's what I want from theReiki Business Summit as well.
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And so those are a lot oftakeaways.
You're going to need a wholedumpster.
Pamela (23:04):
I'm getting excited about that summit.
I'm looking forward to it.
That should be really nice totake in for sure.
Karen, we've got some plans totalk about collaborating and
What are some of the, I knowthat I've collaborated all the
way through my business.
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I even for the Reiki businessbook, I asked my own students to
collaborate with me with theirsuccess stories.
I asked the licensed teachers tocollaborate with me for their
Success stories, and that addedso much, I believe, to the book.
It made the book what it is.
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You and I collaborate all thetime on these events, and I find
that I wind up collaboratingwith other Reiki practitioners.
Sometimes my students, sometimesother people from other
modalities that there's just somany opportunities.
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How do you define, what's thatcollaboration look like for you?
Karen (24:12):
As you just said it can be with anybody who can hold you
accountable, help you work.
Give you ideas.
There's something aboutconnecting with another person,
especially for me, and I am astudent of human design and I
did learn that I'm a projector,meaning that I don't really have
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good sacred energy to work work,like you do Pam, I don't know
how you do what you do.
That's just not me.
And I discovered thatcollaboration is helped me
enormously in getting thingsdone.
And I've collaborated withstudents.
My very first Reiki shares thatI held I wasn't a licensed
teacher yet.
I was in Central Arkansas andone of my students, one of my
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master's students had a massagestudio in Little Rock and I
collaborated with her.
That was one of my very firstcollaboration efforts was with a
student.
all (25:05):
And,
Karen (25:06):
I was like, She was like, girl, I was like, yeah, we need
some more clients.
I said, we need to do a Reikishare.
She said, what's that?
And I said, Just sharing Reiki.
And I really had never been to aReiki share before.
I had heard about them, but wejust collaborated and put
together our own.
And then we discovered laterthat the Unity Church in Little
Rock did a type of a Reikishare.
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And we never did reach out andgo that far because ours took
off, but that was my very firstexperience.
I was scared to do a Reikishare.
I wasn't really sure what I wasdoing and she sure didn't.
She was my student.
So the thing about collaborationis like you've got to not.
Feel one, intimidated.
And also not Oh my gosh, I'm theteacher.
I've got to be, I need to knowwhat I'm doing.
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Cause I didn't.
I said, I don't know, but let'sfigure this out.
So we started a Reiki share anda once a monthly Reiki share in
Little Rock.
I would drive, it was only anhour away.
So I would drive to Little Rockand she got clients and students
cause she started teaching andit was a way for me to expand my
teaching ability.
That Reiki, as you guys know, isReiki masters.
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The Reiki master class is justthe beginning of a student's
journey.
They need that support.
That's why I love what Christiandoes so much.
So I was able to help supporther but she was getting students
down in the Little Rock area andI was getting more students and
clients and so it benefitseverybody.
To me, that's success.
If you can get financialbenefit, mental, emotional
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benefit.
From the nerves of trying to dosomething new, it's that fear
that holds us back.
But if you've got, somebody elseto hold your hand and go Do you
know what you're doing?
Let's just, like kind of Thelmaand Louisa, let's just go and
try it.
If you've got somebody to helpyou, you'll do more things.
You will get out of your comfortzone more.
Yeah, and you'll learn what Pam,what you said at the very
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beginning, that there, there'senough to go around
collaborating really teaches youabout abundance mentality, in,
instead of scarcity mentality Idon't know if I do this with
her, she's probably going to getall the students, or she's going
to get all the clients.
And you learn, even if you'vegot, you don't want to say that
loud, but if you've got that inthe back of your head, You will
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see it unfold no, there'splenty, the right students, the
right clients are going to cometo you and the right students,
the right clients are going togo to whoever, your flat,
whomever you're collaboratingwith.
Pamela (27:28):
So it occurs to me that we collaborated when you edited
my book.
Yeah.
And I
Karen (27:34):
would love to write a book but I wanted to, help get
that going because it was goodto, and,
Pamela (27:38):
Yeah, no, I love it.
And it just, it does make methink of other times that I
collaborated.
I had a, I went to two differentyoga studios and one of them was
owned by a Reiki master fromanother lineage.
And I just checked with themboth Hey, would you like me to
come in and offer a Reikimeditation once a month?
And one of them never reallyresponded.
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And then the one that had theReiki master from the other
lineage, she said, I would lovefor people to have access to
Holy Fire.
And the funny thing is first ofall, it was wildly successful.
She and I told her, I said, Idon't even care if you pay me, I
just, I just really want to get,Holy Fire was fairly new at the
time, and I wanted to get it outthere to other people and give
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access to it, and I always loveto offer now I offer my podcast
that's free I always love tohave a lower cost, or a lower
priced offering for people, anopportunity to reach them, even
if they don't have the means,and But then it was that,
because for 18, they could comeand get and, have the healing
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meditation.
And she loved it.
She actually got more Reikistudents herself because she was
a teaching Reiki master.
And then some of them werereally drawn to the holy fire
and came to me and we had, weusually had 40 people.
It was like, they filled theroom every month because in
every month I would do adifferent meditation.
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So these, there's just so manywonderful opportunities to
collaborate,
Karen (29:09):
isn't
Pamela (29:10):
there?
Karen (29:11):
And there's something about the two coming together,
two or three or whatever comingtogether it's more energy.
It just creates more enthusiasmfor something.
Pamela (29:21):
It does.
But I and I love what you said,too, about you don't even really
need to know what you're doing.
But together you support eachother and you figure it out.
And it's so much more fun tofigure it out with somebody else
than all on your own.
So anyway, I love, for instance,Karen, we collaborate when we do
podcasts.
Together on a regular basis,although I've missed you, our
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schedules haven't alignedrecently and people always say
that they love it when you and Iare together
Karen (29:50):
that's, it's a different energy.
It's a different energy that'screated when two people come
together.
And not to go back to humandesign again, but like when I
looked at my chart and otherpeople's charts that I work
with, like I have, I may havelike half of a line of something
and they have the other half, itjust works better.
Pamela (30:07):
Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
And it's nice to spread the workout and so on.
What strategies or tools do you,and actually, before I go off of
that, Christian, do you haveexamples of collaboration that
you'd like to mention?
Christian (30:23):
Oh, thanks, Pam.
I'll just mention that the ReikiBusiness Collective Discussion
Series, on which both of youhave appeared and the
discussions that we've had therehave just been a great form of
collaboration.
And, those discussions areavailable for anyone to listen
to for years.
And I think that's somethingreally beautiful about
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collaboration is that when youknow, we collaborate with other
practitioners or anyone else wemight collaborate with, we're
able to create something that isgreater than if we were just
doing it by ourselves.
And so the collaboration reallyis a beautiful thing.
And, like with those Reikibusiness collective interviews,
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those are available for yearsand years to come to support
Reiki practitioners.
Same thing with the podcast,Your discussions with Karen,
your collaborations with Karen,those are available for years
and years to come for anyone whomight listen to them and be
encouraged and inspired.
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So the collaboration really doesallow us to create something
greater than we would be able tocreate by ourselves.
The Reiki Business Summit wouldbe really boring if it was just
me for four days.
Pamela (31:43):
Yeah, it is.
It opens things up, doesn't it?
It creates a synergy.
There's a synergy that's createdwhen you collaborate.
Karen (31:51):
As he was talking, I was seeing like a puzzle.
When there are more people, likewe all have our little pieces
and we put them together, andthe more people there are, yeah,
you can have too many, what didthey say?
Too many cooks spoil the brothbut you get a richer picture,
more depth, more, moreperspective, more, just a
bigger, more beautiful picturethrough collaboration.
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So that's, yeah, it's amazing.
Pamela (32:13):
It makes me think of the reason that I started this
podcast in the first place,because in a conversation that I
was.
holding with God or source,whatever name that you use.
I could see that the energy thatI call God, it was this huge
ball of light.
And I could see that The sevenbillion at the time, I know
(32:37):
there's eight billion now, butseven billion people on the
planet at that time, that eachof us was looking at one
dimension, like one aspect, andit just the energy showed me
that if, as we listen to otherpeople and listen to their
perspective, we then learn moreabout Source, or God, or Reiki,
(33:02):
and all of that.
And I thought, if I can bring onall of these guests, and I think
we've recorded at this pointmore than 300 podcasts.
It's, yeah, we've, it's beengoing for a while.
It's up there 200 maybe, butbetween two and 300.
And I realized if I could bringon all these guests, we it gives
(33:22):
us access to all theseperspectives.
And then we know it so muchbetter.
And there's a description ofblind people attempting to
describe an elephant and one istouching the ear and one is
touching the tail and one istouching the foot.
And so obviously they'redescribing the part of the
elephant that they're touching,they, they don't really have the
(33:44):
whole picture until they beginto collaborate.
And yeah, just a thought.
I thought that might shoot inthere.
That's it.
I was getting that same picture.
That's perfect.
Yeah, I love it.
Do you guys have any advice forReiki practitioners who are
hesitant to collaborate withothers?
Karen (34:04):
Let me go first.
I would say don't compareyourself to the people you're
collaborating with because I gotintimidated.
I got intimidated by, okay, I'mjust going to say this out loud,
Pam.
I don't know if I've ever toldyou this, but you have an MBA
and I don't know when I startcollaborating with somebody, I
start, Asking myself what do Ibring to the table?
(34:26):
And then I start looking at thepeople I'm collaborating with.
I'm like gosh, they've got thisand that and so much more
experience.
And and then you just start,it's Pam and I did a podcast
about this, like impostersyndrome, but I don't even need
to be in this circle.
I should not even be herecollaborating with anybody
because I don't know anything.
And then you get in your head,thank you, Reiki.
So I would advise that youremind yourself that This is
(34:48):
the, I think all collaborationswhen they come together, like
when you get these, I'm aprojector so that meaning when I
get an invitation like would youlike to do this and I get it.
Yeah, I would.
That didn't happen on accident.
There's a reason you're there.
You do have.
something to offer or youwouldn't be there.
And don't get caught up in thatmind trap of, gosh, Pam's been
(35:12):
practicing Reiki longer than Ihave, or she's got more business
experience than I do.
Don't do that.
Just go with what you've got.
You're there for a reason.
So bring to the table whatyou've got and and show up.
Show up.
So much of life is just showingup.
Like you just, you have to getpast that fear and just show up.
(35:33):
And then maybe that's where the.
The bond comes in collaboratingbecause you do show up so
vulnerable.
And then you realize the otherperson might be thinking the
same thing.
Oh I'm not as talkative asKaren.
Karen really was like, I'm notas much fun as Karen.
I don't know.
They may be thinking the samething.
So you have to, you show up withwhat you've got to the
(35:53):
collaboration and and add yourpart.
Pamela (35:57):
That's my biggest piece of advice.
I think it's excellent advice.
We're stronger than the sum ofour parts when we do that.
Karen (36:04):
Yeah, you're just a part.
So don't put so much pressure onyourself.
You're just a part of it.
See what you've got to offer.
Oh,
Pamela (36:12):
yeah.
And it makes it easier to nothave to, like Kristen said, like
not have to do the whole thing.
And
all (36:18):
yeah.
Pamela (36:19):
It occurs to me that something that I would give for
advice is that sometimes youwill hear no, that other people
maybe don't want to collaboratewith you.
I know I got my feelings hurtrecently by somebody who didn't
want to collaborate.
And I think that's just animportant part of it to realize
that, It's okay to have no, andeven with the yoga studios, one
(36:41):
yoga studio said no, and onesaid yes.
And so just not to let the noseget you down.
It doesn't mean that, it's justprobably, and it doesn't even
mean that it's the wrong fit.
It just might be the wrong timeor something like that.
Or maybe a misunderstanding orof what you're offering or, we
don't know what's going on inthat other person's life.
(37:04):
So I think that My advice isthat occasionally somebody will
say no I don't want tocollaborate with you and that's
okay like just take that as okaythat one doesn't but maybe
somebody else will and carry ondon't get too stuck on the what
is it we say in Reiki you knowdon't get attached to the
results.
Just know for now.
(37:25):
Yeah, for now and, or maybe noto this one thing or whatever
have you and but it will, itdoesn't mean no to all
collaborations or maybe thatthere isn't a better partner
that maybe you weren't thinkingabout.
So this will help you there.
What about you, Christian, wouldyou have any advice for
somebody?
Christian (37:46):
Yes, thank you.
I love that you both said whatyou said because it really
matches nicely with my thoughts,which are that so often when we
are looking to considercollaborating with someone and
we're being held back and we'refeeling hesitant, so often it's
(38:07):
because we're afraid of lookingfoolish, or we're afraid of
failing.
And so I think that in terms ofcollaboration, knowing that,
part of the reason that, that wemight feel challenged with
collaboration is that we'reafraid to be vulnerable or to
(38:27):
feel vulnerable, to openourselves up to maybe potential
partner that we're collaboratingwith doesn't like the way that
we're doing things or like ourideas on certain things, that
they're going to bring their ownideas and they might not like
all of ours.
It's that fear of, quote,failure, that fear of opening
(38:49):
ourselves up to being rejectedand the criticism.
And I think like Karen said,absolutely knowing that you have
valuable things to share isreally important.
No matter where you are on yourjourney, we all have valid and
valuable things to say.
I don't know about you, but myReiki level one students teach
(39:10):
me all of the time.
That, that act of being in incollaboration is a learning kind
of experience.
And the level one students.
you might think, I've gotnothing to teach Christian.
I learned from my level onestudents all of the time.
And along with what Pam said,that idea of people are going to
say, no, yes, indeed, you'regoing to have rejection.
(39:33):
You're going to have a partneryou're, you want to collaborate
with who you bring up an idea tothem.
And they're like I don't knowhow I feel about that.
And so knowing that Thosefeelings of feeling vulnerable,
that fear of failure, is just acompletely normal part of the
experience.
(39:54):
And to know that rejection isgoing to happen, the no's are
going to happen, but yet, itdoesn't mean that what you have
to share isn't valuable.
It doesn't mean that it's nothelpful.
It doesn't mean that it, itdoesn't have value.
It just means that, it's part ofthe experience.
Pamela (40:18):
I love it.
Sorry, I was listening so hardto you.
I forgot that I need to askanother question.
Oh, wait, that's me.
What would you guys define as asuccessful collaboration?
Karen (40:38):
You go first, Christian.
Christian (40:40):
Okay, sure.
One, one that feels good.
One that feels good.
And that feels good to allparties involved.
And one that feels positive.
I don't know about you, but I'mreally enjoying this
conversation, and I feel reallypositive in it.
And to me, that's a successfulcollaboration.
Whatever happens after this,doesn't matter because to me
(41:04):
this is a positivecollaboration.
I'm enjoying it.
I'm getting benefit out of it.
I hope that you are too.
And if you are too, then I wouldsay that this collaboration is
successful.
It's been a success.
And that to me is what reallymatters, that it feels good and
feels positive to all partiesinvolved.
(41:27):
That's a successfulcollaboration no matter what the
outcome might be.
When we collaborate, we mighthave this vision of, Oh my gosh,
we're going to have just all ofthis amazing Outpouring of
response, it's going to beincredible, it's going to be
crazy.
Now listen, I don't know aboutall of you and your Reiki
business, but I always thinkthat it's going to be amazing,
(41:48):
and it's usually not quite asamazing as my vision.
But if it's if there's enjoymentin the experience and in the
process, that's enough.
That's enough for a successfulcollaboration.
Pamela (42:02):
I love that.
I love that.
And I always say if it helpedone person, then I'm happy.
If whatever I did helped oneperson, then it's working.
It's enough.
So yeah.
Karen, what about you?
What are
Karen (42:16):
your thoughts?
I would say But you learnsomething from it that makes it
successful.
You may collaborate with afellow Reiki practitioner and
maybe do a health fair orsomething.
And they're like, Christian willbe like, this is going to be
amazing, and you get your boothall set up and you know what
you're going to do.
And you're going to give someReiki, some sample Reiki and
pass things out.
And it's, you're going to get somany clients and students and
(42:37):
maybe you don't.
Pamela (42:39):
And maybe nobody shows up to the fair.
Exactly.
Karen (42:43):
Bye.
But if you learn something like,okay maybe.
Maybe maybe it starts making youthink about what is, why do
people walk by and they didn'twant Reiki?
What is it about our branding?
What is it about, if you learnsomething, like how could we do
it differently next time?
Or even, is this worth our time?
Maybe this is not a goodbusiness expense, one thing
(43:04):
about collaborating on thingslike that is you can share the
cost of the booth or whatever,but you may come to the
conclusion that, Maybe thisisn't worth our time.
Maybe we should try somethingelse.
So if you learn something, thenI think that's a.
a successful collaboration.
And then also because you'recollaborating, you have someone
to commiserate with if you fail.
That's right.
You can go to dinner
Pamela (43:24):
with.
Karen (43:25):
Yeah, exactly.
Let's take this three dollars wemade and go go get a smoothie or
something.
Pamela (43:33):
You just reminded me of something that I wanted a
collaboration that I totallyforgot to mention at the
beginning of the podcast, andthat is that I've been asked to
attend the Frederictonexhibition, which is happening
just after Labor Day weekend.
And so I have, I'll have a booththere.
I'll be speaking at theexhibition and I'll have a booth
(43:53):
there that I'd like any of myFredericton area Reiki
practitioners of any, and AnimalReiki Practitioners, if you'd
like to come and share the boothand use the booth to even
promote yourselves to just reachout and let me know because I'd
love to have you join me there.
And so that's, yeah, there'salways opportunities like that.
(44:15):
And I won't be able to man thebooth the whole time.
So there's there are going to behours that some of the rest of
you could have to promote yourbusinesses.
So I just like to encouragethat.
That's just a great
Karen (44:29):
idea.
See, that's a greatcollaboration invitation.
Pamela (44:33):
Yes, thank you.
So do you guys have anystrategies or tools?
Our final question that you'drecommend for effective
collaboration and communicationbetween Reiki practitioners?
Karen (44:45):
Google Drive.
Pamela (44:47):
Yes,
Karen (44:47):
Google Drive.
Google Drive.
That's how you and I did mybook.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
But that was it.
But that's amazing because youcan, I could be.
making a comment in real time.
We could collab, and she's inCanada, and I was in the United
States at the time, but, look,the three of us, we're on three
continents I guess you guys areon the same continent, but we're
in three different countries,and through Google Drive, we can
(45:10):
share.
I also work on a project herewith the Kichwa Indigenous
Spiritual Center, and we useGoogle Drive.
We can upload videos, we can dothat for social media, and it's.
It's really helpful.
And I also have used in the pastwith larger groups a free app
called Trello, T R E L O.
(45:31):
I don't know if you guys haveused that, but but you can like
assign tasks and you can clickwhen it's done.
You can move things over, moveit through The workflow it's
very business y but it'shelpful, to get stuff done.
Pamela (45:44):
I love the Kermit the Frog voice that you used there
for the business y.
Yeah, sorry.
Karen (45:50):
No, I actually did really love it.
Yes, it feels it feels verybusiness y.
You'll need to change my voicefor that.
Pamela (45:57):
No, and I'm thinking, ooh, Trello.
Maybe that's something I shoulduse with my campaign team.
So I'm going to have my daughtercheck it out.
Thank you, Karen.
And what about you, Christian?
Anything you'd recommend?
Christian (46:11):
Yeah, I do, Pam.
Thanks.
So if there's someone you'reconsidering collaborating with,
thinking that you might like todo some kind of joint project,
collaborate in some way, Iencourage having an idea of how
you might like to collaboratewith them when you reach out.
(46:31):
So I don't know about you, butI've gotten people who have
messaged me, contacted me andsay, Christian, I'd love to work
with you.
We should collaborate sometime.
And that's it.
That's all they say.
And it's okay, so then I'll askthem, okay, do you have anything
in mind?
Anything in particular in mind?
No, we should just do somethingtogether.
(46:52):
I have no idea what your visionis, so I'm going to say sorry,
no thanks, because there'snothing to say yes or no to.
But if you reach out withsomeone with something in mind,
and you don't have to have thefull vision, so you don't have
to know exactly what it is, whatit's going to be, how it's going
(47:12):
to go, but just have somegeneral idea.
That gives the person you'rereaching out to something to
latch on to in terms ofsomething to say yes or no to,
give them something to reject orto think about, even if it's not
a yes right away.
And that involves havingsomething a little bit more
(47:35):
concrete than, we should worktogether sometime.
That could be a milliondifferent things.
So approach them with some kindof idea, even if it, of course,
is not fully formed, but justsomething for them to think
about and accept or reject.
Pamela (47:53):
That is a
Karen (47:54):
really good point.
Pamela (47:55):
Yeah, that is.
And then not being too struck onthe outcome.
Like it has to be exactly likethis or anything like that.
Being flexible once they likehave the original idea with some
detail, but not being so struckon it.
Because if somebody says Iwouldn't feel comfortable with
that, but what about this?
Or, Oh, great.
And, or maybe they take youridea and they run with it and
(48:17):
they go in a completelydifferent direction than what
you originally had.
Some divine intervention.
Maybe that new direction is justwhere you need to go.
Karen (48:28):
That's a really good point.
I remember when one of mystudents in England, Duncan
yeah, I've collaborated with hima lot, but he asked me, we had a
conversation once about, this isbefore Reiki trails with your
feet, but he said, Kyra, and hesaid, that part, that bit in
Reiki one, we talk about Usui,giving Reiki with his feet.
And I'm like, yeah, he said, weshould do an article about,
doing.
Reiki with your feet.
(48:49):
No way.
And so that was very specific,but it wasn't like what about
doing Reiki with your feet?
And so I'm like, huh, thatsounds interesting.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
And then I had, like Christiansaid, I had something to respond
to, and then we came up withlet's do some experimenting.
Let's do different symbols.
Let's try in different places.
Let's try, and then we just wentback and forth across the pond
through what did we use?
(49:10):
It's important to decide a goodway to communicate.
What's the best for you?
Karen Harrison contacted me lastnight.
I sent her a message throughFacebook Messenger and she said,
you need to send me a text, ifyou want a quicker response,
those sorts of things are alsoKathy Milanowski, she's always
Facebook Messenger, but anyway,but we just communicated through
Facebook Messenger and it workedthat way.
(49:32):
So yeah, but he gave mesomething to respond to, like
Christian said.
Otherwise, if he just said weshould write an article sometime
and be like, yeah, that'd becool.
And then it would stay with it.
Yeah.
I
Pamela (49:45):
love it.
Good idea.
That's really good.
Guys, before we go into ameditation today, is there any
last words?
That you would like ourlisteners to hear.
Christian (49:56):
Yes, thank you for listening and thank you for
being here.
Pamela (50:01):
Awesome.
I'm going to invite you guys tojoin me in this meditation.
And this is just a meditation tojust help us embrace
collaboration with Reiki energy.
So I just want to inviteeverybody to make yourselves
comfortable.
You can be seated or lying down.
If you're driving, just hitpause right now, and just close
(50:23):
your eyes.
Take a deep breath, bringingyour hands into Gassho, just
activating your Reiki energy.
And just allowing your breath toanchor you into this present
moment.
(50:45):
We acknowledge the enlightenedbeings, the brothers and sisters
of the light, the divineanimals, the angels, the
archangels who are standing atthe corners of the land and on
every side of us, always readyand willing to assist us if we
just remember to ask.
(51:05):
And we thank them for theirdivine assistance and ask them
to help us even and especiallywhen we do forget to ask.
And just placing your handscomfortably on your body now.
Just imagine that you'restanding at the entrance to a
(51:28):
beautiful, peaceful forest.
The air is fresh and there arenature sounds all around you.
And as you walk along with eachstep that you take, you feel
more grounded and more connectedto the earth beneath your feet.
(51:52):
And as you walk deeper anddeeper into the forest, you
eventually come to a beautifulclearing that is bathed in
golden light.
In the center of the clearing isa circle of ancient trees.
Their branches form a naturalsanctuary and you feel drawn to
(52:14):
enter into this sacred space.
Once you're inside this circle,I invite you to sit in the
center of it and just take amoment to connect with your
heart space.
(52:35):
And as you do, you.
Notice the warmth and light ofthe Reiki energy inside of you.
Expand, just filling your entirebeing, moving out beyond
yourself, filling the entireclearing.
(52:55):
I invite you to move your handsnow to your heart and just
invite the power of each of theReiki symbols to awaken within
you.
(53:17):
And if you have symbols, I justinvite you to visualize them
along with me.
And if you don't And we make oursymbols available to you today.
And just imagine the powersymbol is in front of you,
glowing with brilliant light,and as you notice it, you just
(53:42):
feel its energy surround you,grounding and protecting you.
Take a deep breath in, and onyour exhale, just releasing any
tension or worry, allowing thepower symbol to bring you into
(54:04):
alignment with your highestself.
Now visualize the mentalemotional symbol floating gently
above your head.
(54:25):
And as you notice it, just feelit activating your emotional and
mental balance, allowing itsenergy to clear any lingering
doubts or fears and justreplacing them with a sense of
peace and harmony.
(54:58):
Now notice the distance symbolappearing in front of you,
connecting you to the limitlesspotential of the universe.
So often when we see one or two,maybe three solutions, the
universe is aware of 18 or 20 ormore.
(55:26):
And so as you notice thissymbol, just feel it creating a
bridge between you and all ofthose whom you are meant to
collaborate with in your lifeand business.
Just allowing its energy to openthe channels of communication
and understanding.
(55:50):
Fostering connections that arebeneficial and fulfilling.
And finally, if you have mastersymbols, just imagine all of
them.
The Isui Master Symbol, HolyFire, Karuna Master Symbols,
(56:13):
Animal Reiki Master Symbols, orany others.
And just notice those symbolsswirling around you, shining
brightly and moving into yourheart.
And just notice how thesesymbols amplify all of the other
(56:36):
symbols and everything that camebefore it and allowing these
master symbols to merge theirenergies within you.
These master symbols bring youinto alignment with your true
purpose.
(56:57):
Empowering you to step into yourrole as a healer and
collaborator, teacher, whateverit may be on your path that
allows you to bring more loveand more Reiki into the world.
(57:21):
And that begins with each of usbringing it into our personal
lives, our personal worlds, andthen just allowing it to expand
out to our loved ones, ouracquaintances.
(57:44):
our communities, and thenbeyond.
And as you bask in the energy ofthese symbols, I invite you to
consider any projects,partnerships, or collaborations
(58:06):
that you are currently involvedwith or that you wish to
manifest and send the Reikienergy to these and just see
them flourishing with ease andgrace guided.
(58:29):
by the wisdom and power ofReiki.
In fact, if you can justsurrender them to Reiki and
allow Reiki to lead and guidethem.
And just trusting that theuniverse is supporting you every
step of the way.
We'll just spend a few momentsin silence here together today.
(01:00:29):
You can stay in this space foras long as you'd like.
Whenever you feel ready, justbring your awareness back to
this moment in time.
Take a deep breath in and as youexhale, just slowly opening your
eyes, knowing that you carry theenergy of this meditation with
(01:00:51):
you and being ready to infuseevery aspect of your life and
work with the power of Reiki.
Thank you so much for being withus here today and I hope some of
you decide to join us at theReiki Business Summit so we can
(01:01:13):
have an expanded conversation onthis.
Thank you.
Namaste.
Thanks everyone.
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