Relationship Matters

Relationship Matters

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

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May 6, 2026 38 mins

Season 7 Episode 3: Why Relationship Matters with Mike Holton

In this conversation, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global CEO Mike Holton about why relationship matters. Together, they consider how the relationships in our lives — at work, home and in our communities — are a major force for personal and societal growth. Throughout the conversation, Mike and Katie delve into the two-way street of relationships, exploring ways we can ...

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Season 7 Episode 2: Staying Grounded in a Time of Tension with Martin Klaver

Right now, our world is filled with divisive, conflicting and fear-driven narratives. How do we engage with these systems, whilst also not losing ourselves? In this episode Katie Churchman speaks with Martin Klaver about staying grounded through turbulent times, in a conversation exploring ways to help ourselves and the systems we work with find centre.

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Season 7 Episode 1: I Just Can't See The Bigger Picture with Sunčica Getter

To kick start Season 7 of the Relationship Matters Podcast, we are delighted to welcome back systems coach and host, Katie Churchman and Sunčica Getter, co-creator of CRR Global’s Systems Inspired™ Supervision Training Program. In this mind-opening conversation, Katie and Suncica explore what it means to accept that we just can’t see the bigger picture ...

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S6. Bonus Episode: The Journey to Becoming a Coach Supervisor

In this bonus episode on Systems Inspired™ coaching supervision, Katie speaks with coach, facilitator and certified coaching supervisor, Katy Stone about her journey.

Key takeaways from this episode:

  • Coaching supervision is a space for coaches to refresh and renew themselves, a reflective practice and developmental environment where coaches can explore who they want to ...
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In this bonus episode, Katie speaks with Director of Continuous Development Sunčica Getter about Systems Inspired™ supervision, why this resource is so important for professional coaches, and developing your inner supervisor. 

Key takeaways from this episode:

  • Supervision allows us to access new levels of awareness and hold them with a sense of intrigue and compassion. It is a powerful space that creates connection and reflection.
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October 22, 2025 35 mins

Season 6 Bonus Episode
The Observer Effect: How Awareness Shapes the Systems Coaching Process


In this conversation, Katie welcomes CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon to the show to discuss the observer effect in systems coaching. Research in relational psychology and systems theory supports the idea that change arises in relationships, not in isolation. The observer effect reminds us that systems work- whether that ...

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Season 6 Bonus Episode
Exploring Right Relationship with Grief

In this powerful conversation, I talk with coach supervisor and CRR faculty member Daphne Taylor about what it means to be in right relationship with death and dying. Whilst this may feel like a heavy topic, we hold it with lightness and love, and in many ways the discussion is as much about what it means to be in right relationship with life and living. This convers...

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September 17, 2025 56 mins

Season 6 Bonus Episode
Seeing That Frees: Shifting our perception from a world of objects to a web of relationship


In this podcast, Katie Churchman speaks with CRR Global faculty member Janet Frood and Systems worker Tom Mansfield about the Cards for Life project and its applications in coaching and organizational development. The project was designed to bridge personal development and environmental awareness, serving ...

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In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member Stephen Burke about the importance of pre-framing. Pre-framing involves considering the lens through which we look before stepping into a conversation, meeting, or project. In this conversation, we explore how pre-framing can help systems workers and their clients navigate conflict, change, and uncertainty. Whether we are delivering difficult news or providing fe...

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Energy Part 3: The impact of directing positive energy into the world

What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • How to learn how to access different energies within ourselves that we’d like to experience more in the world.
  • The power of broadcasting energy
  • Ways to attune to the body’s intelligence and incorporate this wisdom into coaching.
  • How energy awareness allows us to access the essence of the three levels of reality.
  • The importance of...
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Energy Part 2: Navigating and managing other people’s energy

What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • Tips for creating more energy hygiene for yourself and your relationships.
  • An understanding of energy dissonance and coherence in our relationships.
  • Ways to bring more energy harmonization into your life
  • The importance of revealing the emotional field to a system
  • The power of rituals to clear our energy between meetings. 

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Energy Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching

What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • An understanding of why energy awareness is essential in Relationship work.
  • Strategies for tuning into energy, in yourself, and with others
  • Awareness of why being aware of your energy is essential as a coach
  • Using energy to create a certain impact 
  • An awareness of the power of energy to shift emotional fields. 


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What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • An understanding of how to use reflective practice to update and reimagine the stories we tell ourselves
  • An awareness of reflective practice as a powerful ally for crossing edges.
  • Insight into how reflective practice can create space within our internal landscape.
  • Using reflective practice as a tool for understanding the themes and patterns of our lives.
  • Vulnerable examples from Alfred about how r...
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What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • The significance of unfolding in the process of reflective practice.
  • An understanding of the importance of slowing down and feeling into the body in reflective practice.
  • Ways to enlist the help of the observer, as opposed to blocking them through interpretation and judgement.
  • Techniques for deepening signals that show up in reflective practice so that we can amplify and understand them more deepl...
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What you’ll gain from this episode:

  • An insight into the power of reflective practice as a tool for understanding ourselves better in relationship to the world.
  • Awareness of how to build reflective practice into your life through journalling, free-writing and drawing.
  • Ways to allow our authentic voice to emerge in reflective practice, without editing it out or blocking.
  • Techniques that will help you to sit in the process rather than...
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Is the story you're telling expansive or limiting? In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Kiki Kesseler and host Katie Churchman discuss the importance of the narrative in coaching. Kiki, a CRR Global faculty member with 20 years of experiences, emphasizes how stories shape our reality and agency. She shares recollections that highlight the need for conscious and intentional storytelling.

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In this Masterclass episode, we'll dive deep into team coaching—a practice transforming how teams collaborate, communicate, and achieve extraordinary results. In this compilation episode, we’ve handpicked some of the most insightful moments from our archives to bring you the essential principles, strategies, and tools that every coach, leader, or team member needs to know.

So, whether you’re coaching a team through a tough tran...

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In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member and UK partner Nairy McMahon about toxic communication and overcoming unhealthy patterns in our relationships. Across this conversation, they discuss and explore how to break free from unskill communication patterns by raising awareness, creating space, and owning what we want in a relationship.  

What you’ll gain from this episode:

  1. Insight into different types...
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In the second of this two-part mini-series on the Third Entity, CRR Global faculty members Yuri Morikawa and Fuyuo Sato dive deeper into the concept of the Third Entity, exploring how to lead with it and learn from it. This episode focuses on unlocking the power of shared growth, demonstrating how the Third Entity becomes a teacher and a guide in co-coaching and co-facilitating relationships. Yuri and Fuyuo share stories and strate...

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What is the Third Entity, and how can we get even more deliberate in working with it? It's a key idea in systems inspired coaching, since we work directly with the unique and dynamic "personality" that is created when two people come together in relationship. In this first episode of a two-part series, CRR Global faculty members Yuri Morikawa and Fuyuo Sato explore how they foster trust, alignment, and creativity by ...

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