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Deferred compensation plans can be a powerful retirement tool — but they’re often misunderstood and carry unique risks. In this episode, Tyler Emrick, CFA®, CFP®, breaks down how these plans work in 2025, from 409A rules to 457(b) and 457(f) plans that are especially common in the healthcare industry. We’ll cover why so many executives and physicians use them, how payout rules can trigger unexpected tax bills, and what happens when your employer is acquired — including timely insights for those in Northeast Ohio as Summa Health transitions from nonprofit to for‑profit under a private equity firm.
Here’s some of what we discuss in this episode:
🧾 Know the fine print – Rules on payout timing are strict and often irreversible.
⚠️ Watch for triggers – Job changes or company buyouts can force unexpected distributions.
📉 Subject to credit risk – If your employer fails, you could lose your deferred comp.
📊 Plan your income – Coordinate payouts with your tax strategy to reduce the hit.
💡 Advanced tools – Strategies like TALS can help offset large taxable events.
Part 1: The Long and Short on Tax-Aware, Long-Short (TALS) Investing - https://www.truewealthdesign.com/podcasts/part-1-the-long-and-short-on-tax-aware-long-short-tals-investing/
Part 2: The Long and Short on Tax-Aware, Long-Short (TALS) Investing - https://www.truewealthdesign.com/podcasts/part-2-the-long-and-short-on-tax-aware-long-short-tals-investing/
Part 3: The Long and Short on Tax-Aware, Long-Short (TALS) Investing - https://www.truewealthdesign.com/podcasts/part-3-the-long-and-short-on-tax-aware-long-short-tals-investing/
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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