July 30, 2025 • 29 mins
In this second episode of our Shame to Shalom series, we’re digging into those nagging whispers—“you’re too much” or “you’re not enough”—that have shaped so much of how we see ourselves. But what if those labels never came from God? Starting with His question in Genesis 3:11, “Who told you that…?” we invite you to reflect with us on the origin of shame and how to gently dismantle it. Through our own stories and Scripture, we discover that we’re not broken projects—we’re God’s poema from Ephesians 2:10: His intentional, beautiful workmanship.
We also introduce practical tools like breath prayers, guided exercises, and we bring back a tried and true approach called “Look and Learn”—a five-question framework that helps us respond to failure with grace, not guilt. Instead of spiraling into shame, we’re learning to get curious, notice our thoughts, and bring in truth. If the voice inside sounds more like a bully than our Shepherd, it’s time to challenge it. Join us as we continue the journey of replacing old lies with God’s words of peace and purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi and welcome to our podcast Revelation Within On
the Go.
I'm Heidi Biles-Mapperson, yourhost and the owner and lead
coach of the RevelationWithinorg ministry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello hello, and I'm Christina Motley, and I am your
other host and also a RevelationWithin coach and Heidi's
partner in all things RevelationWithin, and we are so happy to
invite you to join us for thisepisode of Revelation Within.
We are happy to be here, sohappy to be here with you, heidi
(00:45):
.
Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
So happy to be here with you,heidi.
Yeah, I'm happy to be here withyou and with all of you out
there.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, today, christine and I are diving into
our second episode of four inour Shame to Shalom series.
In this episode, we're talkingabout some of the shame soaked
labels that we carry.
That sounds awful, I know,right, those whispers of too
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much or she's not enough, andhow to gently replace them, but
decisively I want to say thatdecisively replaced with what
God actually says.
And we're also going to learnwhat it means to respond
ourselves with curiosity insteadof criticism.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That sounds good to me.
That sounds good I love thatidea.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and pray real quick right
now.
Okay, jesus, thank you that youdon't look away from our shame.
You sit with us in it.
Speak to us now.
We pray.
We give you every label, everylie, every harsh word that we've
internalized.
Let your truth rewrite ourhearts In your name, jesus, amen
(02:01):
.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's beautiful, heidi.
Yay, okay, well, let's go aheadand jump in.
You ready to jump in, Jumpingin One, two, three, okay.
So have you ever been told ormaybe you've told yourself that
you're too much?
You're just too much?
(02:21):
Oh, my gosh, you're too much.
I'm too much, too emotional,too needy, too loud I've been
told I'm too loud, I don't getit.
Or maybe you've been told thatyou're not enough, or maybe
you've told yourself that, ormaybe you've told yourself that
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Not spiritual enough, not thinenough, not lovable oh, my
goodness, that's so sad.
That just like breaks my heartto think about that.
But these are not neutralphrases.
Obviously.
They are shame-based labels andlies.
And you know what?
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They did not come from God.
None of them, not anything likethat.
He would never, ever sayanything like that about his
beloved.
So, and that's what we are.
We're his beloved.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, and you know what?
Last week we talked about thebeginning of time, when shame
entered the world, in Genesis3.8 and 3.10, where Adam was
hiding from God.
Adam and Eve were hiding fromGod, and so we pick up there in
this episode as well.
God has a great question thathe asks Adam and Eve.
(03:37):
Christina, why don't you tellus what Genesis 3.11 tells us?
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So in Genesis 3.11, god asks Adam and Eve who told
you that you were naked?
Who told you?
Who told you?
You didn't know before, itdidn't bother you before, what
happened?
Where did the shame come from?
Basically, it's one of the mosttender and powerful questions
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in scripture, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I do definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So he's still asking who told you that you're too
much?
Who told you that you're notenough?
Who told me I was too loud, itwas too loud.
Who told you who was that?
Where did it come from?
Where did that shame begin?
Because it wasn't from God.
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It wasn't from God.
It wasn't God that told youthat.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
No, in fact he has a lot of other things to say.
Ephesians 2.10, one of myfavorite verses in all of
scripture.
It tells us we are hisworkmanship, and that word
workmanship is actually poema,and it means poem.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You are.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
God's poem.
You are not a mistake to becorrected.
You are a masterpiece inprocess.
A masterpiece is defined by thefact that it was made by a
master, not how good you are atanything or how good you look or
whatever.
It's the master that determineswhether something is a
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masterpiece.
So God's not asking us to fixourselves to earn his love or
anybody else's love.
No, he's asking us get this.
He's asking us to receive thetruth.
Not to fix ourselves, but toreceive the truth that we are
already loved Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That is amazing, amazing, it is it is let's take
a deep breath now.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're going to go a little deeper here and bring it
home a little bit.
So if you can have somethingyou can write on and write with,
and we're going to I'm going totake another deep breath here
because I need to do this too.
Even the too loud thing.
It's so funny I'm joking aboutit.
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Now, you know who told me I wastoo loud?
I can tell you a list of peoplewho told me I was too loud and
there's shame that comes up withthat.
Yeah, of course I mean.
It's so interesting, I know,and it's strong, it is.
So I want you to think for amoment.
Write down or speak aloud if youwant.
I don't know about that, butanyway, write down or speak
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aloud if you want.
I don't know about that, butanyway, so we can do that.
But write down one or two shamelabels that you have believed
about yourself.
Just do that real quick.
And, lord, I'm going to justask you what are the shame
labels you want me to refer tofor this exercise, cause I know
what I might come up with, butyou might come up with ones that
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are much more deep.
I mean, you're telling methey're lies, I know that.
But what are some of thoselabels, those shame labels that
I've believed, that that thelisteners have believed, okay.
So now, lord, we want to knowwhat do you have to say about
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those labels?
What do you say about that,lord?
Yeah, so for let's, just by wayof example and these all come as
we ask the Lord, his thoughtstoo emotional.
That's not his thought, histhought is Psalm 56, verse 8,
says he collects my tears.
He makes me tender hearted.
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I cry a lot.
I'm not too emotional, I'mtender hearted.
Another one example might beI'm not attractive enough, and
yet in Genesis 127, I'm told I'mmade in God's image.
That's beautiful, because Godis beautiful, yes, he is.
Another one that I might sayabout myself that brings about
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shame and it's a lie is I'm notdisciplined enough.
But he says that his grace issufficient.
His strength is made perfect inmy weakness.
That's from 2 Corinthians 12, 9.
These are beautiful truths thatGod says in response to the
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lies I tend to gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
That really just heap shame on me, yeah definitely,
and we all struggle with this,we all struggle with this.
Let's go ahead and try a breathprayer, something you can take
with you into your day, intoyour week and kind of breathe
through this truth.
So we're going to inhale andwe're going to say I am your
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workmanship.
And then we're going to exhaleand say and I am fully loved.
Going to exhale and say, and Iam fully loved Again breath.
Prayers are just a way to renewour minds and also put it
together with breathing so itcalms our bodies and reminds us
what is true in our minds andour hearts.
It's a beautiful, powerful wayto really anchor into what is
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true, especially if you'reanxious or having some of these
thoughts that Heidi justmentioned.
So let's do it together.
Let's go ahead and breathe in Iam your workmanship.
I am your workmanship.
Breathe out, and I am fullyloved.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I am fully loved.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Again.
Breathe in.
I am your workmanship.
I am your workmanship.
Breathe out, and I am fullyloved.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And I am fully loved and I am fully loved.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yay, wow.
Imagine just just doing thatonce a day, you know even, or
twice a day, or when you pass bythe mirror and your thoughts
are going all sideways andbackwards into old lies.
Imagine just stopping for aminute and breathing through
these truths.
Here's another breath prayer.
We're going to breathe in andsay I am not too much, and we're
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going to breathe out and say,and I'm not not enough.
Okay, let's go ahead and dothat one together.
Breathe in, I am not too much,breathe out and.
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I am not not enough, and onemore time Breathe in, I am not
too much.
Breathe out and I'm not, notnot.
(10:51):
Okay, going on.
Now let's talk about what we doafter we mess up.
We often go into self-judgment.
We say, oh my gosh, I'm such amess, what's wrong with me, why
can't I get it together?
I've done this a million times.
What is it?
Oh, I'll never get it.
But those aren't Jesus'squestions.
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Jesus definitely asks a lot ofquestions in his word.
He's like a question guy.
He loves asking.
He likes to respond toquestions with questions.
But those are not his questions.
Jesus shows us another way inJohn 8.
A woman caught in sin is thrownat his feet.
(11:37):
Maybe you know this story ormaybe you want to look it up
later.
The crowd wants condemnation,but Jesus actually kneels.
He gets down on his knees inthe dirt and then he draws or
writes something in the dirt.
We don't know what it is.
He silences her accusers and hesays so.
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This is such an amazing exampleof who God is.
This is such a beautifulexample of truth without shame,
and correction, without contempt.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Beautiful Romans 8.1 says there is therefore now no
condemnation for those who arein Christ Jesus, and this word,
condemnation, katakrima, means ajudicial sentence.
Paul says there's no verdict ofguilt over you anymore.
You're no longer on trial.
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Wow, wow.
So we want to take this and runwith it, because this is a,
this is such a gift that our Godhas sent Jesus into the world
not to condemn the world, butthat the world would be saved
through him.
And that's us.
We too are saved through him.
There is no condemnation for us.
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Wow, there's no verdict ofguilt, we're no longer on trial.
So what do I do with failures,with mess ups, with stumbles,
with my sin even?
And we just looked at the womancaught in sin and we saw how
Jesus handled that.
Think of a moment this week.
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How about when you feel likeyou blew it?
It might be that you blew itwith your words towards somebody
, maybe towards yourself, maybecondemnation towards yourself,
when you looked in the mirror,since we've talked about that.
Or maybe something you said tosomebody else you wish you
hadn't said it.
Or maybe you overate or spenttoo much money, or whatever it
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may be.
Maybe you didn't use your timein a way that you feel like you
should have Get whatever it isreal solid in your mind.
You do that and then Christinais going to share an example
with us as we go along, I am.
Do you have an instance in yourmind, Christina, while the
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listeners are thinking of anexample for themselves?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, I actually have many, but I'll just choose one.
Okay, so you know I've talkedabout for you know, all of our
podcast episodes how food andeating has been a stronghold for
me my whole life, especiallyvery much, especially when big
emotions come up.
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This has just been something anold pattern for me since I was,
you know, a young teenager.
Big emotions of any kind.
They can be celebratory, theycan be oh, christmas is coming,
I'm so excited.
It can be that, but most of thetime it's something difficult.
Maybe it's fear, anxiety and,just to be honest, the last
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three weeks I've dealt withquite a bit of fear and anxiety
with some health things that aregoing on.
So there have been.
I mean, by and large, I am apeaceful eater and I love saying
that out loud to renew my mind,but I still struggle.
Everybody will struggle untilwe step into heaven.
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That's just the way it is.
This is a tough world to livein and we struggle.
So I still struggle and thereare times.
So the other day I was, you know, off doing medical tests and it
was a difficult time and I wasdefinitely stressed and I was
struggling and I turned to thego-to that's been in my purse
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actually, for quite a few weeks,I didn't need fuel for my body
at all.
I was not hungry at all.
I had had a really great wholebody pleaser meal just before,
but I felt a very strong pulltoward food that I did not need.
And that's not something that'syou know, I mean in my past.
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That's something that happenedmany, many times a day.
Every day, whatever challengingemotion came up, my go-to was
let's get something to eat.
So that's my mess up, that's mymistake, that's my tripping, my
stumbling, and has been for along time.
So you're telling us you gavein.
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Yes, I gave in.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, Cause I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I ate the entire package and I totally gave in,
and afterwards, you know, Ididn't feel any better.
In fact, I felt worse.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So since the Lord tells us in Jeremiah 33, three
called on me and I will answeryou and tell you great and
unsearchable things you do notknow.
The best thing to do after amess up is to ask God just to
ask God so do you want to dothat number one?
What happened, lord?
What?
What was behind what?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
happened, okay.
So, lord, I invite you intothis.
What happened, you know?
Help me, lord, I invite youinto this.
What happened, you know?
Help me to see the way you see,not with eyes of condemnation,
but with eyes of compassion andcuriosity and Love.
Okay, so what happened?
What was behind it?
So, what was behind it, I knowI was feeling fear about the
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test results and anxiety.
I was having a whole lot ofanxious thoughts go through my
mind and I kind of let my mindgo there.
I wasn't making the choice tofill it with life-giving
thoughts which I know that I do,and I do that a lot, but I
didn't do it in this time and soanother question then you can
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follow that with is what did Ifeel in that moment?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
How was I feeling?
What was going through my mindand heart, so like physically I
was feeling a little bit shaky.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I was feeling my heart was beating fast.
I was feeling like you know,like kind of fear.
You mentioned fear.
I was feeling fear, um,emotionally very much, and
feeling anxious thoughts, um,and some sadness too.
Just, I think that you know,grieving what was happening with
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my body, grieving what was lost.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, the third question.
Then we can again inviting Godto show us.
What did I believe, aboutmyself or about you, lord?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, so in that moment I believed that I was in
a dire situation.
I was believing that I was inan emergency.
I was believing that thingswere impossible.
That's what I was believingjust in that moment not all day,
you know, not not all afternoon, nothing like that but but in
that moment, when I reached forthat food that I didn't
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physically need, I was believingthis is impossible and I'm just
going to grab for this thingthat's going to make me feel
better yeah, it's like anupgrade.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
If I have to go through this, I'm going to make
sure I go through it and havefun along the way as best as I
can.
And what was I?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
believing about God.
I mean you.
You know I don't.
I know God was with me, butthere were thoughts going
through my mind like have youforgotten?
Where are you?
What are you doing?
This can't be happening.
So thoughts like that.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Then the next question you can ask, inviting
god to show you.
What truth do I want to bringin now?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
yes, good, good, good .
And this is definitely where Iwant to go.
I want to go to god's truthwhen my thoughts are taking me
in a destructive direction, so Iusually will go to our mind
renewal tool.
What is true in a situationlike this?
So what is true?
God is right here.
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God is 100% engaged, god is notworried, god is not surprised,
god is not anxious, god knowseverything.
God loves me with aneverlasting love.
I am God's girl, I am hisbeloved and I am held by him in
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the palm of his hand.
I am safe with him.
And you can see those came outso quickly because I have
practiced those many, many, manytimes, but again in that moment
those were not coming up.
You know I have to beintentional about going there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right.
And then the fifth question,again asking God Lord, what
might I do differently next timeso that I have a different
response?
Instead of turning to whateverit might be, I turn to you or I
turn to the solutions you havefor me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and this is why we call it look and learn.
We're taking a look, we'refiguring it out with the Lord
and then we're learning so thatnext time can be different.
So I can use this today.
I have another medical test inabout an hour.
I can use this today.
I can prepare by renewing mymind ahead of time about what is
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true about God and me and thewhole situation, just like I
just did.
I can practice those thoughts.
I can say them again and again.
I can also ask someone to prayfor me, because I know that I'm
going into a situation where myold thoughts might come up and I
might be anxious or upset insome way.
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So I can get support that way.
Another thing I could do isgrab a few of my favorite
scriptures and personalize themand use those to renew my mind.
I could take them with me intothe waiting room.
That's another idea.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I love those ideas.
I'll be eager to hear how itgoes.
I'm not going to be praying forme, heidi.
We do the look and learn, likewe've just described it, not to
be punished, to put ourselvesthrough the paces or something,
or to insist on perfection.
No, no, no, it's a practice,living in the truth with Jesus.
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What would he have us dodifferently?
And he promises us that he willgive us everything we need for
life and godliness.
So we know that what he callsus to, he also equips us for.
So I'm just going to go throughthose questions one more time,
because somebody probably has inmind an incident.
I hope they all do, but anyway.
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Number one, lord, what happened?
What was behind?
What happened?
Number two, happened?
Number two what was I feelingin that moment?
Number three what did I believeabout myself or you, lord?
Number four what truth do youwant me to bring to this right
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now?
What do you want me to refuteit with?
And number five what can I dodifferently next time, lord?
And that's what we call lookand learn.
It's a beautiful way ofthinking differently about
failure, because we come to seethat failure is actually an
opportunity to learn what mightwork better the next time.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, and it's actually a mind renewal tool,
because you can see that therenewing of the mind was right.
In the mix of that, getting ridof the old lies and replacing
them with truth, and then thebonus is intimacy with the Lord
increases every time you do it.
That is amazing.
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It is so.
We've got another breath prayerfor you and we just love these.
Another way to just tellyourself the truth while you're
breathing deeply.
So we're going to inhale andsay there is no condemnation.
And we're going to exhale andsay only grace and truth in you
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Only grace and truth in you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
This is a perfect breath, prayer to pray, to say
to kind of soak in when you arefeeling a lot of shame.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
So let's do this one together.
Take a deep breath and saythere is no condemnation,
condemnation.
And say there is nocondemnation, condemnation.
Breathe out and say only graceand truth and true let's do that
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one again breathe in.
There is no condemnation, readout only grace and truth in you
and truth in you.
Beautiful, so, so beautiful.
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This week we're askingourselves what's the tone of my
inner voice?
If it sounds like a critic or abully, it's not Jesus, it's not
.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
This is sure striking me.
I am a big one about the toneof voice.
Yes, yes, it's like you, canyou really you can say a lot
just with a tone.
Yes, you know, like if you wereto ask me how are you today, I
could say fine.
What does that say?
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Yeah, there's something verydifferent than fine, right right
, oh my, there's so manydifferent ways.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Tone makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So what is the tone of my voice towards myself?
Oh, Ooh.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, that's a good question, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, so if it sounds like curiosity, like kindness,
that might indicate that healingis beginning there.
Yeah, it's just a hopefulthought, isn't it?
You can write this on yourmirror, or maybe in your journal
or your phone background youknow how you can put your own
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like wallpaper or whatever theycall it on there, and and it can
say there is no condemnation, Ican respond with truth and
grace.
I love the idea of writing thaton my mirror you know, or sticky
note or whatever on my mirrorto remind me okay, don't spend
time here shaming yourself orsaying mean things to yourself.
You know the mean girl needs togo, even if she lives inside of
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me, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We're so used to those old messages and so many
of them just come from our ownhead.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right, there is no condemnation.
I can respond with truth andgrace.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yes, okay, so let's close our time today by speaking
truth back to God.
So, really, this is a praisefest.
This is who he is, this is whathe does and we are praising.
We're using those words topraise him, which is just
awesome.
So let's do this together.
You are not a God ofcondemnation.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You are not a God of condemnation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You whisper truth instead of shouting shame.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You whisper truth instead of shouting shame.
You whisper truth instead ofshouting shame.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You are kind, even when I fall.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You are kind, even when I fall.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You sit with me in the dust and write love letters
to me.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You sit with me in the dust and write love letters
to me you sit with me in thedust and write love letters to
me.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, I brought that last part in myself, but I don't
know that's who he is right, Ithink that's what he was doing
when he was kneeling down in thedust with that.
The woman in that story in john8 right?
John 8, right, yep.
So in our next episode we'regoing to be talking about
letting go of all or nothingthinking and learning how to
walk with God in grace.
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One small yes at a time.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That sounds good.
All right, until next time.
You are not too much, you arenot not enough, but you are
God's workmanship.
His masterpiece is poetry inmotion, and you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
No, You're not alone, not ever, ever, ever.
You are not alone.
We are so glad you've been heretoday, yes, and we would love
to invite you to come back nexttime for our next episode of
Revelation Within.
Bye, bye, bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I did the voice, I noticed, I love it.
I love it.
Anyway, we'll see you next time.
Bye for now, bye for now, byefor now.
Hi and welcome to our podcast Revelation Within On
the Go.
I'm Heidi Biles-Mapperson, yourhost and the owner and lead
coach of the RevelationWithinorg ministry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello hello, and I'm Christina Motley, and I am your
other host and also a RevelationWithin coach and Heidi's
partner in all things RevelationWithin, and we are so happy to
invite you to join us for thisepisode of Revelation Within.
We are happy to be here, sohappy to be here with you, heidi
(00:45):
.
Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
So happy to be here with you,heidi.
Yeah, I'm happy to be here withyou and with all of you out
there.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, today, christine and I are diving into
our second episode of four inour Shame to Shalom series.
In this episode, we're talkingabout some of the shame soaked
labels that we carry.
That sounds awful, I know,right, those whispers of too
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much or she's not enough, andhow to gently replace them, but
decisively I want to say thatdecisively replaced with what
God actually says.
And we're also going to learnwhat it means to respond
ourselves with curiosity insteadof criticism.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That sounds good to me.
That sounds good I love thatidea.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and pray real quick right
now.
Okay, jesus, thank you that youdon't look away from our shame.
You sit with us in it.
Speak to us now.
We pray.
We give you every label, everylie, every harsh word that we've
internalized.
Let your truth rewrite ourhearts In your name, jesus, amen
(02:01):
.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's beautiful, heidi.
Yay, okay, well, let's go aheadand jump in.
You ready to jump in, Jumpingin One, two, three, okay.
So have you ever been told ormaybe you've told yourself that
you're too much?
You're just too much?
(02:21):
Oh, my gosh, you're too much.
I'm too much, too emotional,too needy, too loud I've been
told I'm too loud, I don't getit.
Or maybe you've been told thatyou're not enough, or maybe
you've told yourself that, ormaybe you've told yourself that
(02:43):
Not spiritual enough, not thinenough, not lovable oh, my
goodness, that's so sad.
That just like breaks my heartto think about that.
But these are not neutralphrases.
Obviously.
They are shame-based labels andlies.
And you know what?
(03:03):
They did not come from God.
None of them, not anything likethat.
He would never, ever sayanything like that about his
beloved.
So, and that's what we are.
We're his beloved.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, and you know what?
Last week we talked about thebeginning of time, when shame
entered the world, in Genesis3.8 and 3.10, where Adam was
hiding from God.
Adam and Eve were hiding fromGod, and so we pick up there in
this episode as well.
God has a great question thathe asks Adam and Eve.
(03:37):
Christina, why don't you tellus what Genesis 3.11 tells us?
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So in Genesis 3.11, god asks Adam and Eve who told
you that you were naked?
Who told you?
Who told you?
You didn't know before, itdidn't bother you before, what
happened?
Where did the shame come from?
Basically, it's one of the mosttender and powerful questions
(04:06):
in scripture, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I do definitely yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So he's still asking who told you that you're too
much?
Who told you that you're notenough?
Who told me I was too loud, itwas too loud.
Who told you who was that?
Where did it come from?
Where did that shame begin?
Because it wasn't from God.
(04:33):
It wasn't from God.
It wasn't God that told youthat.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
No, in fact he has a lot of other things to say.
Ephesians 2.10, one of myfavorite verses in all of
scripture.
It tells us we are hisworkmanship, and that word
workmanship is actually poema,and it means poem.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You are.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
God's poem.
You are not a mistake to becorrected.
You are a masterpiece inprocess.
A masterpiece is defined by thefact that it was made by a
master, not how good you are atanything or how good you look or
whatever.
It's the master that determineswhether something is a
(05:17):
masterpiece.
So God's not asking us to fixourselves to earn his love or
anybody else's love.
No, he's asking us get this.
He's asking us to receive thetruth.
Not to fix ourselves, but toreceive the truth that we are
already loved Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That is amazing, amazing, it is it is let's take
a deep breath now.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're going to go a little deeper here and bring it
home a little bit.
So if you can have somethingyou can write on and write with,
and we're going to I'm going totake another deep breath here
because I need to do this too.
Even the too loud thing.
It's so funny I'm joking aboutit.
(06:02):
Now, you know who told me I wastoo loud?
I can tell you a list of peoplewho told me I was too loud and
there's shame that comes up withthat.
Yeah, of course I mean.
It's so interesting, I know,and it's strong, it is.
So I want you to think for amoment.
Write down or speak aloud if youwant.
I don't know about that, butanyway, write down or speak
(06:24):
aloud if you want.
I don't know about that, butanyway, so we can do that.
But write down one or two shamelabels that you have believed
about yourself.
Just do that real quick.
And, lord, I'm going to justask you what are the shame
labels you want me to refer tofor this exercise, cause I know
what I might come up with, butyou might come up with ones that
(06:46):
are much more deep.
I mean, you're telling methey're lies, I know that.
But what are some of thoselabels, those shame labels that
I've believed, that that thelisteners have believed, okay.
So now, lord, we want to knowwhat do you have to say about
(07:07):
those labels?
What do you say about that,lord?
Yeah, so for let's, just by wayof example and these all come as
we ask the Lord, his thoughtstoo emotional.
That's not his thought, histhought is Psalm 56, verse 8,
says he collects my tears.
He makes me tender hearted.
(07:28):
I cry a lot.
I'm not too emotional, I'mtender hearted.
Another one example might beI'm not attractive enough, and
yet in Genesis 127, I'm told I'mmade in God's image.
That's beautiful, because Godis beautiful, yes, he is.
Another one that I might sayabout myself that brings about
(07:52):
shame and it's a lie is I'm notdisciplined enough.
But he says that his grace issufficient.
His strength is made perfect inmy weakness.
That's from 2 Corinthians 12, 9.
These are beautiful truths thatGod says in response to the
(08:12):
lies I tend to gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
That really just heap shame on me, yeah definitely,
and we all struggle with this,we all struggle with this.
Let's go ahead and try a breathprayer, something you can take
with you into your day, intoyour week and kind of breathe
through this truth.
So we're going to inhale andwe're going to say I am your
(08:37):
workmanship.
And then we're going to exhaleand say and I am fully loved.
Going to exhale and say, and Iam fully loved Again breath.
Prayers are just a way to renewour minds and also put it
together with breathing so itcalms our bodies and reminds us
what is true in our minds andour hearts.
It's a beautiful, powerful wayto really anchor into what is
(09:01):
true, especially if you'reanxious or having some of these
thoughts that Heidi justmentioned.
So let's do it together.
Let's go ahead and breathe in Iam your workmanship.
I am your workmanship.
Breathe out, and I am fullyloved.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I am fully loved.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Again.
Breathe in.
I am your workmanship.
I am your workmanship.
Breathe out, and I am fullyloved.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And I am fully loved and I am fully loved.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yay, wow.
Imagine just just doing thatonce a day, you know even, or
twice a day, or when you pass bythe mirror and your thoughts
are going all sideways andbackwards into old lies.
Imagine just stopping for aminute and breathing through
these truths.
Here's another breath prayer.
We're going to breathe in andsay I am not too much, and we're
(10:08):
going to breathe out and say,and I'm not not enough.
Okay, let's go ahead and dothat one together.
Breathe in, I am not too much,breathe out and.
(10:28):
I am not not enough, and onemore time Breathe in, I am not
too much.
Breathe out and I'm not, notnot.
(10:51):
Okay, going on.
Now let's talk about what we doafter we mess up.
We often go into self-judgment.
We say, oh my gosh, I'm such amess, what's wrong with me, why
can't I get it together?
I've done this a million times.
What is it?
Oh, I'll never get it.
But those aren't Jesus'squestions.
(11:13):
Jesus definitely asks a lot ofquestions in his word.
He's like a question guy.
He loves asking.
He likes to respond toquestions with questions.
But those are not his questions.
Jesus shows us another way inJohn 8.
A woman caught in sin is thrownat his feet.
(11:37):
Maybe you know this story ormaybe you want to look it up
later.
The crowd wants condemnation,but Jesus actually kneels.
He gets down on his knees inthe dirt and then he draws or
writes something in the dirt.
We don't know what it is.
He silences her accusers and hesays so.
(12:06):
This is such an amazing exampleof who God is.
This is such a beautifulexample of truth without shame,
and correction, without contempt.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Beautiful Romans 8.1 says there is therefore now no
condemnation for those who arein Christ Jesus, and this word,
condemnation, katakrima, means ajudicial sentence.
Paul says there's no verdict ofguilt over you anymore.
You're no longer on trial.
(12:39):
Wow, wow.
So we want to take this and runwith it, because this is a,
this is such a gift that our Godhas sent Jesus into the world
not to condemn the world, butthat the world would be saved
through him.
And that's us.
We too are saved through him.
There is no condemnation for us.
(13:01):
Wow, there's no verdict ofguilt, we're no longer on trial.
So what do I do with failures,with mess ups, with stumbles,
with my sin even?
And we just looked at the womancaught in sin and we saw how
Jesus handled that.
Think of a moment this week.
(13:21):
How about when you feel likeyou blew it?
It might be that you blew itwith your words towards somebody
, maybe towards yourself, maybecondemnation towards yourself,
when you looked in the mirror,since we've talked about that.
Or maybe something you said tosomebody else you wish you
hadn't said it.
Or maybe you overate or spenttoo much money, or whatever it
(13:45):
may be.
Maybe you didn't use your timein a way that you feel like you
should have Get whatever it isreal solid in your mind.
You do that and then Christinais going to share an example
with us as we go along, I am.
Do you have an instance in yourmind, Christina, while the
(14:05):
listeners are thinking of anexample for themselves?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, I actually have many, but I'll just choose one.
Okay, so you know I've talkedabout for you know, all of our
podcast episodes how food andeating has been a stronghold for
me my whole life, especiallyvery much, especially when big
emotions come up.
(14:28):
This has just been something anold pattern for me since I was,
you know, a young teenager.
Big emotions of any kind.
They can be celebratory, theycan be oh, christmas is coming,
I'm so excited.
It can be that, but most of thetime it's something difficult.
Maybe it's fear, anxiety and,just to be honest, the last
(14:52):
three weeks I've dealt withquite a bit of fear and anxiety
with some health things that aregoing on.
So there have been.
I mean, by and large, I am apeaceful eater and I love saying
that out loud to renew my mind,but I still struggle.
Everybody will struggle untilwe step into heaven.
(15:14):
That's just the way it is.
This is a tough world to livein and we struggle.
So I still struggle and thereare times.
So the other day I was, you know, off doing medical tests and it
was a difficult time and I wasdefinitely stressed and I was
struggling and I turned to thego-to that's been in my purse
(15:36):
actually, for quite a few weeks,I didn't need fuel for my body
at all.
I was not hungry at all.
I had had a really great wholebody pleaser meal just before,
but I felt a very strong pulltoward food that I did not need.
And that's not something that'syou know, I mean in my past.
(15:59):
That's something that happenedmany, many times a day.
Every day, whatever challengingemotion came up, my go-to was
let's get something to eat.
So that's my mess up, that's mymistake, that's my tripping, my
stumbling, and has been for along time.
So you're telling us you gavein.
(16:20):
Yes, I gave in.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, Cause I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I ate the entire package and I totally gave in,
and afterwards, you know, Ididn't feel any better.
In fact, I felt worse.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So since the Lord tells us in Jeremiah 33, three
called on me and I will answeryou and tell you great and
unsearchable things you do notknow.
The best thing to do after amess up is to ask God just to
ask God so do you want to dothat number one?
What happened, lord?
What?
What was behind what?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
happened, okay.
So, lord, I invite you intothis.
What happened, you know?
Help me, lord, I invite youinto this.
What happened, you know?
Help me to see the way you see,not with eyes of condemnation,
but with eyes of compassion andcuriosity and Love.
Okay, so what happened?
What was behind it?
So, what was behind it, I knowI was feeling fear about the
(17:16):
test results and anxiety.
I was having a whole lot ofanxious thoughts go through my
mind and I kind of let my mindgo there.
I wasn't making the choice tofill it with life-giving
thoughts which I know that I do,and I do that a lot, but I
didn't do it in this time and soanother question then you can
(17:40):
follow that with is what did Ifeel in that moment?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
How was I feeling?
What was going through my mindand heart, so like physically I
was feeling a little bit shaky.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I was feeling my heart was beating fast.
I was feeling like you know,like kind of fear.
You mentioned fear.
I was feeling fear, um,emotionally very much, and
feeling anxious thoughts, um,and some sadness too.
Just, I think that you know,grieving what was happening with
(18:14):
my body, grieving what was lost.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, the third question.
Then we can again inviting Godto show us.
What did I believe, aboutmyself or about you, lord?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, so in that moment I believed that I was in
a dire situation.
I was believing that I was inan emergency.
I was believing that thingswere impossible.
That's what I was believingjust in that moment not all day,
you know, not not all afternoon, nothing like that but but in
that moment, when I reached forthat food that I didn't
(18:52):
physically need, I was believingthis is impossible and I'm just
going to grab for this thingthat's going to make me feel
better yeah, it's like anupgrade.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
If I have to go through this, I'm going to make
sure I go through it and havefun along the way as best as I
can.
And what was I?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
believing about God.
I mean you.
You know I don't.
I know God was with me, butthere were thoughts going
through my mind like have youforgotten?
Where are you?
What are you doing?
This can't be happening.
So thoughts like that.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Then the next question you can ask, inviting
god to show you.
What truth do I want to bringin now?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
yes, good, good, good .
And this is definitely where Iwant to go.
I want to go to god's truthwhen my thoughts are taking me
in a destructive direction, so Iusually will go to our mind
renewal tool.
What is true in a situationlike this?
So what is true?
God is right here.
(20:00):
God is 100% engaged, god is notworried, god is not surprised,
god is not anxious, god knowseverything.
God loves me with aneverlasting love.
I am God's girl, I am hisbeloved and I am held by him in
(20:21):
the palm of his hand.
I am safe with him.
And you can see those came outso quickly because I have
practiced those many, many, manytimes, but again in that moment
those were not coming up.
You know I have to beintentional about going there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right.
And then the fifth question,again asking God Lord, what
might I do differently next timeso that I have a different
response?
Instead of turning to whateverit might be, I turn to you or I
turn to the solutions you havefor me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and this is why we call it look and learn.
We're taking a look, we'refiguring it out with the Lord
and then we're learning so thatnext time can be different.
So I can use this today.
I have another medical test inabout an hour.
I can use this today.
I can prepare by renewing mymind ahead of time about what is
(21:19):
true about God and me and thewhole situation, just like I
just did.
I can practice those thoughts.
I can say them again and again.
I can also ask someone to prayfor me, because I know that I'm
going into a situation where myold thoughts might come up and I
might be anxious or upset insome way.
(21:42):
So I can get support that way.
Another thing I could do isgrab a few of my favorite
scriptures and personalize themand use those to renew my mind.
I could take them with me intothe waiting room.
That's another idea.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I love those ideas.
I'll be eager to hear how itgoes.
I'm not going to be praying forme, heidi.
We do the look and learn, likewe've just described it, not to
be punished, to put ourselvesthrough the paces or something,
or to insist on perfection.
No, no, no, it's a practice,living in the truth with Jesus.
(22:21):
What would he have us dodifferently?
And he promises us that he willgive us everything we need for
life and godliness.
So we know that what he callsus to, he also equips us for.
So I'm just going to go throughthose questions one more time,
because somebody probably has inmind an incident.
I hope they all do, but anyway.
(22:42):
Number one, lord, what happened?
What was behind?
What happened?
Number two, happened?
Number two what was I feelingin that moment?
Number three what did I believeabout myself or you, lord?
Number four what truth do youwant me to bring to this right
(23:03):
now?
What do you want me to refuteit with?
And number five what can I dodifferently next time, lord?
And that's what we call lookand learn.
It's a beautiful way ofthinking differently about
failure, because we come to seethat failure is actually an
opportunity to learn what mightwork better the next time.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, and it's actually a mind renewal tool,
because you can see that therenewing of the mind was right.
In the mix of that, getting ridof the old lies and replacing
them with truth, and then thebonus is intimacy with the Lord
increases every time you do it.
That is amazing.
(23:45):
It is so.
We've got another breath prayerfor you and we just love these.
Another way to just tellyourself the truth while you're
breathing deeply.
So we're going to inhale andsay there is no condemnation.
And we're going to exhale andsay only grace and truth in you
(24:08):
Only grace and truth in you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
This is a perfect breath, prayer to pray, to say
to kind of soak in when you arefeeling a lot of shame.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
So let's do this one together.
Take a deep breath and saythere is no condemnation,
condemnation.
And say there is nocondemnation, condemnation.
Breathe out and say only graceand truth and true let's do that
(24:44):
one again breathe in.
There is no condemnation, readout only grace and truth in you
and truth in you.
Beautiful, so, so beautiful.
(25:06):
This week we're askingourselves what's the tone of my
inner voice?
If it sounds like a critic or abully, it's not Jesus, it's not
.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
This is sure striking me.
I am a big one about the toneof voice.
Yes, yes, it's like you, canyou really you can say a lot
just with a tone.
Yes, you know, like if you wereto ask me how are you today, I
could say fine.
What does that say?
(25:40):
Yeah, there's something verydifferent than fine, right right
, oh my, there's so manydifferent ways.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Tone makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So what is the tone of my voice towards myself?
Oh, Ooh.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, that's a good question, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, so if it sounds like curiosity, like kindness,
that might indicate that healingis beginning there.
Yeah, it's just a hopefulthought, isn't it?
You can write this on yourmirror, or maybe in your journal
or your phone background youknow how you can put your own
(26:25):
like wallpaper or whatever theycall it on there, and and it can
say there is no condemnation, Ican respond with truth and
grace.
I love the idea of writing thaton my mirror you know, or sticky
note or whatever on my mirrorto remind me okay, don't spend
time here shaming yourself orsaying mean things to yourself.
You know the mean girl needs togo, even if she lives inside of
(26:45):
me, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We're so used to those old messages and so many
of them just come from our ownhead.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right, there is no condemnation.
I can respond with truth andgrace.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yes, okay, so let's close our time today by speaking
truth back to God.
So, really, this is a praisefest.
This is who he is, this is whathe does and we are praising.
We're using those words topraise him, which is just
awesome.
So let's do this together.
You are not a God ofcondemnation.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You are not a God of condemnation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You whisper truth instead of shouting shame.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You whisper truth instead of shouting shame.
You whisper truth instead ofshouting shame.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You are kind, even when I fall.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You are kind, even when I fall.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You sit with me in the dust and write love letters
to me.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You sit with me in the dust and write love letters
to me you sit with me in thedust and write love letters to
me.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, I brought that last part in myself, but I don't
know that's who he is right, Ithink that's what he was doing
when he was kneeling down in thedust with that.
The woman in that story in john8 right?
John 8, right, yep.
So in our next episode we'regoing to be talking about
letting go of all or nothingthinking and learning how to
walk with God in grace.
(28:17):
One small yes at a time.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That sounds good.
All right, until next time.
You are not too much, you arenot not enough, but you are
God's workmanship.
His masterpiece is poetry inmotion, and you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
No, You're not alone, not ever, ever, ever.
You are not alone.
We are so glad you've been heretoday, yes, and we would love
to invite you to come back nexttime for our next episode of
Revelation Within.
Bye, bye, bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I did the voice, I noticed, I love it.
I love it.
Anyway, we'll see you next time.
Bye for now, bye for now, byefor now.
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