June 18, 2025 • 24 mins
In this episode, we dive into the question, “What am I truly thirsting for?” We open a new series focused on caring for our bodies as sacred spaces, not problems to fix. Shifting our mindset in this way reshapes how we respond to emotional eating, self-image, and daily struggles. Drawing from Scripture, we reflect on the Hebrew idea of "thirst"—a deep, soul-level longing—and how only God's presence can satisfy that ache. Like the deer in Psalm 42, our hearts chase after true refreshment, yet we often settle for broken substitutes like food, performance, or approval.
Christina shares a recent personal moment of emotional craving, where she realized her deeper need wasn’t food—it was God’s comfort in a hard place. We talk about how God meets us in our dry, weary spaces, just as seasonal rains bring new life to parched hills. We also offer a journaling prompt to help you name your own "dry places" and a breath prayer to connect with God in those moments. This episode is an invitation to see your body as already beloved and to tend to it with grace—because Jesus is present, even in your thirst.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi and welcome to our podcast Revelation Within On
the Go.
I'm Heidi Wiles-Maepperson, oneof your hosts and the owner and
lead coach of theRevelationWithinorg ministry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a
Revelation Within coach andHeidi's partner in all things
Revelation Within, and we're sohappy to invite you to join us
for this episode of RevelationWithin.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
On the go Hi Well welcome.
I'm glad y'all are here with us.
We are so glad you're here.
We are shifting in ourcommunity to a new theme and we
thought that maybe we would do aseries of podcasts and kind of
(00:54):
parallel that, though it'll be acouple weeks behind.
Yes, our theme in the, in thecommunity, and it'll be
attending the temple, it's asacred invitation to honor our
bodies, not as projects to fix,not that, no, not that Good.
I'm relieved, yeah, but asdwelling places for God's
(01:18):
presence, because that's what wewere made for.
We were made to house the HolySpirit of God, the Shekinah
glory of God, and we spend somuch time treating our bodies
like projects and maybe not somany of those who are listening
to our podcast as maybepreviously, I don't know but we
(01:39):
want to make that shift and stayshifted to as those who are
aware that these bodies are good.
Yes, so today's session isgoing to be called.
What are you thirsty for?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I love it.
I love it.
Another fantastic theme,another one Awesome.
Okay.
So, whether you're listeningfrom a peaceful morning walk, or
in the chaos of a busy kitchenor a busy workday, or wherever
it is that you are, we believethat God meets you right there
(02:17):
and together we'll gentlyexplore this question of thirst,
not just physical thirst, butsoul thirst, because you know,
sometimes what looks likecraving is actually a deeper
longing.
In fact, I would say most ofthe time actually.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, and cravings are definitely something that we
all deal with.
In fact, we have a course thatwe created some time back on
overcoming cravings and becauseit is so common a challenge, but
because this is such a vitalissue, this thirsting, this
longing that we have, we'regoing to go ahead and start off
(02:56):
with a little bit of a prayer,Okay great.
Jesus, you see the thirstbeneath the surface.
You do you understand the acheunderneath the craving?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
God for meeting us, not in our polished answers or
prayers, but in our honestlongings.
Yes, let this time that we havetogether, so to speak,
virtually anyway, be like awatering Lord.
Let your living water reach thedry places in our hearts, just
(03:29):
flow in and through us to everynook and cranny, crack and
crevice.
Holy Spirit, just saturate usin Jesus name, amen.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Amen, beautiful, beautiful.
And I think I like the idea ofusing the word thirst because
when we're thirsting like it'sreally urgent.
You know, a lot of us try todrink enough water all day long,
but if we've really been busy,if we've really been active and
we haven't been drinking water,there's a real thirst that comes
(04:01):
up and it's like I need thatright now.
I have a serious need for that.
So I like using the word thirstfor this theme.
Yeah, so we live in a worldthat teaches us to fear our
cravings Isn't that so true?
To run away from them or to fixthem, to try to control them,
(04:24):
to shame them, Shame them yeah,yes, right, but in this space we
are going to flip that scriptRight on.
We're going to flip it, let's doit, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So, and here, when we take on this perspective, we
start with compassionatecuriosity.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We find these are two attributes of Jesus that we see
displayed all the time in theGospels.
We ask things like what if mythirst isn't the problem?
What if it's the invitation?
Let's start off in Isaiah,isaiah 55, verses 1 to three,
(05:06):
and God says this I love this.
Come, all you who are thirsty,come to the waters, listen,
listen to me and eat what isgood.
Give ear and come to me, listenthat you may live.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So good.
And again, you know, justlistening to what you just
shared, Heidi, God doesn't saygo fix yourself, Like go get it
together before you come to me.
I got way too many things to doover here.
You know.
He doesn't say that.
He says come, come and receivewhat your soul truly needs.
(05:48):
Come right now, Come the minuteyou're thirsty, Come.
So here's another beautifulscripture, so many of us know
this one from Psalm 42, one andtwo as the deer pants for
streams of water, so my soulpants for you, oh God.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's beautiful.
You know, I lived on a streetcalled Deer Ravine Trail.
Yes and there was a reason itwas called Deer Ravine Trail,
but deer were everywhere and allacross our four acres were deer
trails, from where they hadmade their way down to the
ravine where there was a littlebit of water trickling through.
(06:35):
You could tell that they werefrequently going that way.
And I like to think of thisverse this way, because if I am
frequently panting for streamsof living water, panting for a
God himself, I'm going to wear apath in the ground, so to speak
, that shows that I am runningthat direction a lot.
(06:58):
It's going to be arighteousness.
Really, it's going to be a pathof purity, if you will, I love
that.
So we're going to take a momentto do a little bit of a word
study, not much, but just a tinybit.
So the hebrew word thirst sama.
I'm not sure I'm pronouncingthis correctly in the hebrew.
Of course I don't know hebrew.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't know hebrew from greek no, I'm kidding, it's
all Greek to me.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And this word that's translated, thirst in Psalm 42,
is a deep, desperate longing.
It's rooted in need, but even aneed to the extent of
exhaustion.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, yeah, and we've experienced that, haven't we?
We've all experienced that kindof thirst.
It's not just a physical thirst, it's kind of like an ache in
your soul, yeah, an ache in yoursoul, a longing that says God,
where are you?
I need you.
(08:03):
I have a need for you in thisvery moment.
Where are you?
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, we as always we like to kind of make it
practical for those that I don'tknow I benefit from.
Give me something practicalthat I can touch or do, or hear,
or smell, or feel or taste.
So, if you want to, you can dothis now or come back to this
later.
But, placing one hand over yourheart and the other one on your
(08:34):
belly, take a slow breath and,as you do, ask quietly Jesus,
what am I really thirsty fortoday?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
quietly, Jesus, what am I really?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
thirsty for today?
Hmm, do that right now.
I'm going to do it quietly tomyself, jesus.
What am I really thirsty fortoday?
Hmm, and of course you don'thave to answer right now, but
just notice if anything doessurface, if anything comes up.
Is there something that youknow you could attend to a
(09:07):
little bit?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
John, chapter 4, verses 13 and 14, jesus is
speaking, of course.
Whoever drinks the water I givethem will never thirst.
Indeed, it will become a springof water welling up to eternal
life.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wow, well, and what we know about springs?
We have a lot of springs herein Colorado Springs and in the
area.
They just keep bringing morewater.
They don't ever, ever stop,they don't even pause.
They just keep bringing moreand more water.
So Jesus isn't just offeringhydration, he's offering himself
(09:52):
.
He is the living water, he isthe source that never dries up.
I mean, that's the truth of it,that's who he really is.
So, heidi, you asked me to shareabout a time when I thought I
was craving comfort food, andboy, it really felt that way.
But what I was really needingwas comfort itself.
(10:13):
So I don't have to look fartherthan yesterday.
Craving comfort food issomething that I've been doing
since I was 13, 14 years old.
It's easy for me to come upwith examples.
I have been in that pattern formany, many years, decades, but
now I know what to do about it,I know what it is and I can
(10:35):
renew my mind.
But yesterday it came up.
I was out and about in my littleVW Bug, enjoying driving it
around.
I've been home a lot in thelast three weeks because I
haven't been feeling well, andso it felt great to be out and
about.
I was running a couple oferrands.
One of the errands was very,very important to a dear friend
(10:58):
of mine and I could not get itdone and I was so excited about
doing this for someone.
I was actually picking up ahigh school diploma and I was
excited and I had been told tocome back the next day.
I had already gone the daybefore and I was just imagining
delivering this diploma to thissweet, precious friend of mine
(11:20):
and they didn't have it and itdidn't work out and they said
don't even come back tomorrow,we'll call you, don't call us,
basically.
And I wasn't able to get it andit was disappointing.
I felt disappointed.
The first thing that came intomy mind was I'm going to go get
myself something to eat.
(11:41):
I was getting hungry, I was,but really what I was craving
was comfort, because I wasdisappointed.
And here I was going on thisfantastic celebratory errand and
it fell apart and I didn't havea good answer to tell her, my
friend, anything.
(12:01):
I thought I'm going to go okay.
So this is what happened.
So over the years I have hadfavorite go-tos around our city,
around Colorado Springs.
You know we all kind of do that.
It's like, oh, at this place, Ilike this and at this place, I
like that.
Well, recently I've had to gogluten free because of my health
(12:23):
and I thought I don't have anymore go-tos.
Oh no, why would I ever go toGod Exactly?
And so I'm thinking I get it, Iget it.
I was just like that.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I'm thinking okay.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And there's like places to eat.
Everywhere I'm driving there'sso many, like there's so many,
and I'm like, no, not there,nothing there.
Well, I don't think I could getanything there.
Well, what am I doing?
What am I doing?
What am I doing?
And I was making myself crazybecause I had a craving for a
comfort food that I no longerwanted to eat because it was
(13:02):
going to make me feel physicallyuncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
All comfort foods have gluten or dairy or bone,
all of them, right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What in the world?
What's that about?
I know, and I'm also dairy-freeright now, anyway.
So I realized what washappening.
In the midst of all of this, Irealized I'm frustrated.
I want comfort food.
No, I don't.
What I really needed wascomfort itself, not in food, but
(13:33):
in presence.
I needed to talk to God aboutmy disappointment.
I needed to go to him.
I needed to process thosefeelings, even if it took a
minute or two, and then I couldgo home and eat something that
would make my body feel good andlet go of these go-tos that
(13:54):
used to be so important to me.
It was kind of a big aha momentfor me.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, I bet I know what you're talking about too.
I've had some of those recentlywhere it's almost like the
thoughts are habitual and in thepast the behaviors that went
with the thoughts were habitual.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Right, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Now the behaviors are empty.
Yes, and you're like wait aminute.
What happened to that?
It was such fun.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was so good, and then maybe you do stop and get
the comfort food and it doesn'teven taste very good.
No, it's not satisfying becausewe have tasted the real thing
so much more often.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, that's so true.
That is so true.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'm so grateful for that Such a huge change.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Psalm 107, verse 9, says for he satisfies the
thirsty and fills the hungrywith good things.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, there it is.
It's right there in the Bible,I love it.
This is who God is.
God is the one who satisfies,not just with what we want, but
with what we need.
God knows.
I don't need to go and run outthere and get some kind of food
(15:09):
that used to be my go-to.
I mean, none of that evenmatters.
In my disappointment, in myfrustration, I need him.
I need him.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He is the comfort that I need and he says he is
everywhere in scripture.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
All over the place.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I'm thinking the God of all comfort.
I mean, that's what he callshimself, right I?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
mean.
That's pretty clear and we knowthat it's true because we have
gone to him so many times.
Jeremiah 2.13,.
They have forsaken me thespring of living water, water,
and dug their own cisterns.
How many years did I dig my owncisterns?
I did that for decades, for solong, and we just come up empty.
(15:56):
It's not what we need, it's noteven what we want, really,
right, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And I don't know I am assuming there's not a person
listening want really Right,Right, and I don't know I am
assuming there's not a personlistening who can't identify
with that.
We've probably all done this.
We've tried to fill ourselveswith almosts, with good enoughs,
whether it's productivity orfood or approval.
Those are all broken cisterns.
They don't hold water.
(16:22):
They don't hold what we need.
They leak, yeah, they leak yeah.
Jesus says let me be yourspring.
You're never ending flow ofwater.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, another beautiful scripture, revelation
21,.
Six to the thirsty, I will givewater without cost.
Without cost, so we don't haveto earn this living water, we
just have to be willing to come.
It's already there, it'soffered to us, it's plentiful,
(16:56):
it will never run out.
We just have to be willing tocome, to be willing to come.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's beautiful.
I live in California whereduring the summer, we get golden
hills.
That's what we have, and it'sgolden because it's a thirst.
The ground is thirsty and it'snot getting enough water, and so
I know a lot of people live instates where summer brings green
(17:24):
and winter brings brown but,here, where I live, we get that
brown I like calling it goldenbecause it is so beautiful and
what happens is in the fall,when the rains begin to fall,
just a little bit at a timemaybe, and then, over the course
of November, december anddefinitely January, the
(17:46):
torrential downpours come.
It's so interesting to see howthe color of the landscape
transforms.
It goes from being that goldencolor which is you know, it
indicates there's a lack ofwater, to a little bit of green,
mixed in, to a lot more green,mixed in to lush, verdant growth
(18:08):
.
It is so amazing and I reallyfeel like this is kind of what
happens.
When we let God meet us in ourthirst.
When we let God meet us in ourthirst, he will cause the
landscape of our lives to change.
He really will it may happenslowly, but over time there's a
huge shift that takes place.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So when I first went to go visit Heidi, I looked at
these hills and I just they tookmy breath away.
They were, they're gorgeous tome.
I've not lived somewhere wherethere are hills like that.
I've lived in SouthernCalifornia, where it's quite
different, and it looked likevelvet to me.
And when the wind blew, youknow, there was just this kind
(18:51):
of waving of all of this goldengrass, and so I love that
because it reminds me that it'sbeautiful, even if I'm in
progress, even if I'm feelingdry, even if things aren't all
put together.
You know, even if I'm inprogress, even if I'm feeling
dry, even if things aren't allput together, you know, even if
I'm going for water in the wrongplaces, it's still beautiful.
And then, like you said, heidi,that rain comes, and I've also
(19:14):
been there when it's very, verygreen and that has its own
beauty.
But even when it's dry, thereis there oh yeah yeah, I mean I
just I love that there's.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There's beauty and life, even when it's depleted of
a lot of the water but, um,it's so awesome to see how it
changes and shifts yes, I wantto let god meet me in my thirst,
and I don't want to circumventthat or bypass it by going to
something else.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
A cistern that doesn't hold water.
Right, and when I think aboutthat getting water from a
cistern that doesn't hold waterI have lived recently not that
long ago in a place where thereare quarries rock quarries that
are are dug out for, you know,having granite People love to
have granite in their frontyards and little pebbles and
(20:07):
whatnot, or limestone orwhatever it might be, and these
quarries are these ginormousholes over time that fill up
with water because of the rain,but it doesn't have a proper
inlet and outlet, of course,like a lake would, and so I
picture these broken cisternsthat are spoken of in the
scripture kind of like that,like who would want to drink
(20:30):
from that.
I wouldn't want to drink fromthat, but anyway.
So we have a journaling promptfor you, if you'd like.
It gives you kind of anopportunity to reflect on some
of this.
And here you go.
It's where do I feel dry rightnow?
Or you might even turn it aroundand ask God Lord, where am I
dry right now?
(20:51):
Am I, like those golden hills,still beautiful?
In my own way, maybe, but youhave something else in mind for
me.
What might living water looklike in that place where I am
dry right now?
You can always come back tothis later.
So again, just where do I feeldry right now?
What might living water looklike in that place?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Here's another idea for you.
It's a breath prayer and again,breath.
Prayers are just breathing withGod's truth while you're saying
God's truth.
So here's a simple one thatgoes along with what we've been
talking about today.
We're going to inhale and sayyou see my thirst, and then
we're going to exhale and say,and you meet me there.
(21:38):
So we'll go ahead and try that,take a nice deep breath.
So we'll go ahead and try that,take a nice deep breath and say
(22:00):
you see my thirst, exhale,exhale, and you meet me there.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's a good one, like that one.
Isaiah 44, verse three, says Iwill pour water on the thirsty
land.
I feel like that's a greatpromise for us, isn't it?
Yeah, wherever we thirst,whatever the answer might be to
that journaling question, wheream I dry right now, lord he?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
says I'm going to pour water on that thirsty land.
Heidi, when you read that verseyou were just grinning ear to
ear.
I love it.
I love it.
It's so hopeful, it's so good,and I love that it says I will
not like you know, maybe I will,or I'll come around when I got
enough for you.
It's I will, it's a sure thing.
So I have a little blessing foryou May your thirst not lead to
(23:04):
shame but to sacredconversation.
May your longings becomeinvitations, may you be filled
not just with what you want butwith what you truly need, and
may your temple be tended withgentleness and Jesus by your
side.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh, thank you.
That's beautiful Well listener.
Thank you for being with us.
Next week we will probablycontinue with this theme a
little bit of tending the temple, yeah, and so, yeah, be ready
for that, yay.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yay, that sounds so, so good.
So until then, we're going toencourage you to drink deeply,
tend gently and just rememberthat your body is not a project,
it's a temple, and Jesus isalready there.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
He is oh amen, he's your living water.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Amen and amen.
Doesn't that sound amazing?
Oh, amen, amen and amen.
Doesn't that sound amazing?
We are so glad that you've beenwith us today and we would love
to invite you to join us forour next episode of Revelation
Within.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
On the go.
We'll see you then.
Bye for now.
Hi and welcome to our podcast Revelation Within On
the Go.
I'm Heidi Wiles-Maepperson, oneof your hosts and the owner and
lead coach of theRevelationWithinorg ministry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Christina Motley, your other host, also a
Revelation Within coach andHeidi's partner in all things
Revelation Within, and we're sohappy to invite you to join us
for this episode of RevelationWithin.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
On the go Hi Well welcome.
I'm glad y'all are here with us.
We are so glad you're here.
We are shifting in ourcommunity to a new theme and we
thought that maybe we would do aseries of podcasts and kind of
(00:54):
parallel that, though it'll be acouple weeks behind.
Yes, our theme in the, in thecommunity, and it'll be
attending the temple, it's asacred invitation to honor our
bodies, not as projects to fix,not that, no, not that Good.
I'm relieved, yeah, but asdwelling places for God's
(01:18):
presence, because that's what wewere made for.
We were made to house the HolySpirit of God, the Shekinah
glory of God, and we spend somuch time treating our bodies
like projects and maybe not somany of those who are listening
to our podcast as maybepreviously, I don't know but we
(01:39):
want to make that shift and stayshifted to as those who are
aware that these bodies are good.
Yes, so today's session isgoing to be called.
What are you thirsty for?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I love it.
I love it.
Another fantastic theme,another one Awesome.
Okay.
So, whether you're listeningfrom a peaceful morning walk, or
in the chaos of a busy kitchenor a busy workday, or wherever
it is that you are, we believethat God meets you right there
(02:17):
and together we'll gentlyexplore this question of thirst,
not just physical thirst, butsoul thirst, because you know,
sometimes what looks likecraving is actually a deeper
longing.
In fact, I would say most ofthe time actually.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, and cravings are definitely something that we
all deal with.
In fact, we have a course thatwe created some time back on
overcoming cravings and becauseit is so common a challenge, but
because this is such a vitalissue, this thirsting, this
longing that we have, we'regoing to go ahead and start off
(02:56):
with a little bit of a prayer,Okay great.
Jesus, you see the thirstbeneath the surface.
You do you understand the acheunderneath the craving?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
God for meeting us, not in our polished answers or
prayers, but in our honestlongings.
Yes, let this time that we havetogether, so to speak,
virtually anyway, be like awatering Lord.
Let your living water reach thedry places in our hearts, just
(03:29):
flow in and through us to everynook and cranny, crack and
crevice.
Holy Spirit, just saturate usin Jesus name, amen.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Amen, beautiful, beautiful.
And I think I like the idea ofusing the word thirst because
when we're thirsting like it'sreally urgent.
You know, a lot of us try todrink enough water all day long,
but if we've really been busy,if we've really been active and
we haven't been drinking water,there's a real thirst that comes
(04:01):
up and it's like I need thatright now.
I have a serious need for that.
So I like using the word thirstfor this theme.
Yeah, so we live in a worldthat teaches us to fear our
cravings Isn't that so true?
To run away from them or to fixthem, to try to control them,
(04:24):
to shame them, Shame them yeah,yes, right, but in this space we
are going to flip that scriptRight on.
We're going to flip it, let's doit, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So, and here, when we take on this perspective, we
start with compassionatecuriosity.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We find these are two attributes of Jesus that we see
displayed all the time in theGospels.
We ask things like what if mythirst isn't the problem?
What if it's the invitation?
Let's start off in Isaiah,isaiah 55, verses 1 to three,
(05:06):
and God says this I love this.
Come, all you who are thirsty,come to the waters, listen,
listen to me and eat what isgood.
Give ear and come to me, listenthat you may live.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So good.
And again, you know, justlistening to what you just
shared, Heidi, God doesn't saygo fix yourself, Like go get it
together before you come to me.
I got way too many things to doover here.
You know.
He doesn't say that.
He says come, come and receivewhat your soul truly needs.
(05:48):
Come right now, Come the minuteyou're thirsty, Come.
So here's another beautifulscripture, so many of us know
this one from Psalm 42, one andtwo as the deer pants for
streams of water, so my soulpants for you, oh God.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's beautiful.
You know, I lived on a streetcalled Deer Ravine Trail.
Yes and there was a reason itwas called Deer Ravine Trail,
but deer were everywhere and allacross our four acres were deer
trails, from where they hadmade their way down to the
ravine where there was a littlebit of water trickling through.
(06:35):
You could tell that they werefrequently going that way.
And I like to think of thisverse this way, because if I am
frequently panting for streamsof living water, panting for a
God himself, I'm going to wear apath in the ground, so to speak
, that shows that I am runningthat direction a lot.
(06:58):
It's going to be arighteousness.
Really, it's going to be a pathof purity, if you will, I love
that.
So we're going to take a momentto do a little bit of a word
study, not much, but just a tinybit.
So the hebrew word thirst sama.
I'm not sure I'm pronouncingthis correctly in the hebrew.
Of course I don't know hebrew.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't know hebrew from greek no, I'm kidding, it's
all Greek to me.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And this word that's translated, thirst in Psalm 42,
is a deep, desperate longing.
It's rooted in need, but even aneed to the extent of
exhaustion.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, yeah, and we've experienced that, haven't we?
We've all experienced that kindof thirst.
It's not just a physical thirst, it's kind of like an ache in
your soul, yeah, an ache in yoursoul, a longing that says God,
where are you?
I need you.
(08:03):
I have a need for you in thisvery moment.
Where are you?
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, we as always we like to kind of make it
practical for those that I don'tknow I benefit from.
Give me something practicalthat I can touch or do, or hear,
or smell, or feel or taste.
So, if you want to, you can dothis now or come back to this
later.
But, placing one hand over yourheart and the other one on your
(08:34):
belly, take a slow breath and,as you do, ask quietly Jesus,
what am I really thirsty fortoday?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
quietly, Jesus, what am I really?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
thirsty for today?
Hmm, do that right now.
I'm going to do it quietly tomyself, jesus.
What am I really thirsty fortoday?
Hmm, and of course you don'thave to answer right now, but
just notice if anything doessurface, if anything comes up.
Is there something that youknow you could attend to a
(09:07):
little bit?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
John, chapter 4, verses 13 and 14, jesus is
speaking, of course.
Whoever drinks the water I givethem will never thirst.
Indeed, it will become a springof water welling up to eternal
life.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wow, well, and what we know about springs?
We have a lot of springs herein Colorado Springs and in the
area.
They just keep bringing morewater.
They don't ever, ever stop,they don't even pause.
They just keep bringing moreand more water.
So Jesus isn't just offeringhydration, he's offering himself
(09:52):
.
He is the living water, he isthe source that never dries up.
I mean, that's the truth of it,that's who he really is.
So, heidi, you asked me to shareabout a time when I thought I
was craving comfort food, andboy, it really felt that way.
But what I was really needingwas comfort itself.
(10:13):
So I don't have to look fartherthan yesterday.
Craving comfort food issomething that I've been doing
since I was 13, 14 years old.
It's easy for me to come upwith examples.
I have been in that pattern formany, many years, decades, but
now I know what to do about it,I know what it is and I can
(10:35):
renew my mind.
But yesterday it came up.
I was out and about in my littleVW Bug, enjoying driving it
around.
I've been home a lot in thelast three weeks because I
haven't been feeling well, andso it felt great to be out and
about.
I was running a couple oferrands.
One of the errands was very,very important to a dear friend
(10:58):
of mine and I could not get itdone and I was so excited about
doing this for someone.
I was actually picking up ahigh school diploma and I was
excited and I had been told tocome back the next day.
I had already gone the daybefore and I was just imagining
delivering this diploma to thissweet, precious friend of mine
(11:20):
and they didn't have it and itdidn't work out and they said
don't even come back tomorrow,we'll call you, don't call us,
basically.
And I wasn't able to get it andit was disappointing.
I felt disappointed.
The first thing that came intomy mind was I'm going to go get
myself something to eat.
(11:41):
I was getting hungry, I was,but really what I was craving
was comfort, because I wasdisappointed.
And here I was going on thisfantastic celebratory errand and
it fell apart and I didn't havea good answer to tell her, my
friend, anything.
(12:01):
I thought I'm going to go okay.
So this is what happened.
So over the years I have hadfavorite go-tos around our city,
around Colorado Springs.
You know we all kind of do that.
It's like, oh, at this place, Ilike this and at this place, I
like that.
Well, recently I've had to gogluten free because of my health
(12:23):
and I thought I don't have anymore go-tos.
Oh no, why would I ever go toGod Exactly?
And so I'm thinking I get it, Iget it.
I was just like that.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I'm thinking okay.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And there's like places to eat.
Everywhere I'm driving there'sso many, like there's so many,
and I'm like, no, not there,nothing there.
Well, I don't think I could getanything there.
Well, what am I doing?
What am I doing?
What am I doing?
And I was making myself crazybecause I had a craving for a
comfort food that I no longerwanted to eat because it was
(13:02):
going to make me feel physicallyuncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
All comfort foods have gluten or dairy or bone,
all of them, right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What in the world?
What's that about?
I know, and I'm also dairy-freeright now, anyway.
So I realized what washappening.
In the midst of all of this, Irealized I'm frustrated.
I want comfort food.
No, I don't.
What I really needed wascomfort itself, not in food, but
(13:33):
in presence.
I needed to talk to God aboutmy disappointment.
I needed to go to him.
I needed to process thosefeelings, even if it took a
minute or two, and then I couldgo home and eat something that
would make my body feel good andlet go of these go-tos that
(13:54):
used to be so important to me.
It was kind of a big aha momentfor me.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, I bet I know what you're talking about too.
I've had some of those recentlywhere it's almost like the
thoughts are habitual and in thepast the behaviors that went
with the thoughts were habitual.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Right, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Now the behaviors are empty.
Yes, and you're like wait aminute.
What happened to that?
It was such fun.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was so good, and then maybe you do stop and get
the comfort food and it doesn'teven taste very good.
No, it's not satisfying becausewe have tasted the real thing
so much more often.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, that's so true.
That is so true.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'm so grateful for that Such a huge change.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Psalm 107, verse 9, says for he satisfies the
thirsty and fills the hungrywith good things.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, there it is.
It's right there in the Bible,I love it.
This is who God is.
God is the one who satisfies,not just with what we want, but
with what we need.
God knows.
I don't need to go and run outthere and get some kind of food
(15:09):
that used to be my go-to.
I mean, none of that evenmatters.
In my disappointment, in myfrustration, I need him.
I need him.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He is the comfort that I need and he says he is
everywhere in scripture.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
All over the place.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I'm thinking the God of all comfort.
I mean, that's what he callshimself, right I?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
mean.
That's pretty clear and we knowthat it's true because we have
gone to him so many times.
Jeremiah 2.13,.
They have forsaken me thespring of living water, water,
and dug their own cisterns.
How many years did I dig my owncisterns?
I did that for decades, for solong, and we just come up empty.
(15:56):
It's not what we need, it's noteven what we want, really,
right, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And I don't know I am assuming there's not a person
listening want really Right,Right, and I don't know I am
assuming there's not a personlistening who can't identify
with that.
We've probably all done this.
We've tried to fill ourselveswith almosts, with good enoughs,
whether it's productivity orfood or approval.
Those are all broken cisterns.
They don't hold water.
(16:22):
They don't hold what we need.
They leak, yeah, they leak yeah.
Jesus says let me be yourspring.
You're never ending flow ofwater.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, another beautiful scripture, revelation
21,.
Six to the thirsty, I will givewater without cost.
Without cost, so we don't haveto earn this living water, we
just have to be willing to come.
It's already there, it'soffered to us, it's plentiful,
(16:56):
it will never run out.
We just have to be willing tocome, to be willing to come.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's beautiful.
I live in California whereduring the summer, we get golden
hills.
That's what we have, and it'sgolden because it's a thirst.
The ground is thirsty and it'snot getting enough water, and so
I know a lot of people live instates where summer brings green
(17:24):
and winter brings brown but,here, where I live, we get that
brown I like calling it goldenbecause it is so beautiful and
what happens is in the fall,when the rains begin to fall,
just a little bit at a timemaybe, and then, over the course
of November, december anddefinitely January, the
(17:46):
torrential downpours come.
It's so interesting to see howthe color of the landscape
transforms.
It goes from being that goldencolor which is you know, it
indicates there's a lack ofwater, to a little bit of green,
mixed in, to a lot more green,mixed in to lush, verdant growth
(18:08):
.
It is so amazing and I reallyfeel like this is kind of what
happens.
When we let God meet us in ourthirst.
When we let God meet us in ourthirst, he will cause the
landscape of our lives to change.
He really will it may happenslowly, but over time there's a
huge shift that takes place.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So when I first went to go visit Heidi, I looked at
these hills and I just they tookmy breath away.
They were, they're gorgeous tome.
I've not lived somewhere wherethere are hills like that.
I've lived in SouthernCalifornia, where it's quite
different, and it looked likevelvet to me.
And when the wind blew, youknow, there was just this kind
(18:51):
of waving of all of this goldengrass, and so I love that
because it reminds me that it'sbeautiful, even if I'm in
progress, even if I'm feelingdry, even if things aren't all
put together.
You know, even if I'm inprogress, even if I'm feeling
dry, even if things aren't allput together, you know, even if
I'm going for water in the wrongplaces, it's still beautiful.
And then, like you said, heidi,that rain comes, and I've also
(19:14):
been there when it's very, verygreen and that has its own
beauty.
But even when it's dry, thereis there oh yeah yeah, I mean I
just I love that there's.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There's beauty and life, even when it's depleted of
a lot of the water but, um,it's so awesome to see how it
changes and shifts yes, I wantto let god meet me in my thirst,
and I don't want to circumventthat or bypass it by going to
something else.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
A cistern that doesn't hold water.
Right, and when I think aboutthat getting water from a
cistern that doesn't hold waterI have lived recently not that
long ago in a place where thereare quarries rock quarries that
are are dug out for, you know,having granite People love to
have granite in their frontyards and little pebbles and
(20:07):
whatnot, or limestone orwhatever it might be, and these
quarries are these ginormousholes over time that fill up
with water because of the rain,but it doesn't have a proper
inlet and outlet, of course,like a lake would, and so I
picture these broken cisternsthat are spoken of in the
scripture kind of like that,like who would want to drink
(20:30):
from that.
I wouldn't want to drink fromthat, but anyway.
So we have a journaling promptfor you, if you'd like.
It gives you kind of anopportunity to reflect on some
of this.
And here you go.
It's where do I feel dry rightnow?
Or you might even turn it aroundand ask God Lord, where am I
dry right now?
(20:51):
Am I, like those golden hills,still beautiful?
In my own way, maybe, but youhave something else in mind for
me.
What might living water looklike in that place where I am
dry right now?
You can always come back tothis later.
So again, just where do I feeldry right now?
What might living water looklike in that place?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Here's another idea for you.
It's a breath prayer and again,breath.
Prayers are just breathing withGod's truth while you're saying
God's truth.
So here's a simple one thatgoes along with what we've been
talking about today.
We're going to inhale and sayyou see my thirst, and then
we're going to exhale and say,and you meet me there.
(21:38):
So we'll go ahead and try that,take a nice deep breath.
So we'll go ahead and try that,take a nice deep breath and say
(22:00):
you see my thirst, exhale,exhale, and you meet me there.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That's a good one, like that one.
Isaiah 44, verse three, says Iwill pour water on the thirsty
land.
I feel like that's a greatpromise for us, isn't it?
Yeah, wherever we thirst,whatever the answer might be to
that journaling question, wheream I dry right now, lord he?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
says I'm going to pour water on that thirsty land.
Heidi, when you read that verseyou were just grinning ear to
ear.
I love it.
I love it.
It's so hopeful, it's so good,and I love that it says I will
not like you know, maybe I will,or I'll come around when I got
enough for you.
It's I will, it's a sure thing.
So I have a little blessing foryou May your thirst not lead to
(23:04):
shame but to sacredconversation.
May your longings becomeinvitations, may you be filled
not just with what you want butwith what you truly need, and
may your temple be tended withgentleness and Jesus by your
side.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh, thank you.
That's beautiful Well listener.
Thank you for being with us.
Next week we will probablycontinue with this theme a
little bit of tending the temple, yeah, and so, yeah, be ready
for that, yay.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yay, that sounds so, so good.
So until then, we're going toencourage you to drink deeply,
tend gently and just rememberthat your body is not a project,
it's a temple, and Jesus isalready there.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
He is oh amen, he's your living water.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Amen and amen.
Doesn't that sound amazing?
Oh, amen, amen and amen.
Doesn't that sound amazing?
We are so glad that you've beenwith us today and we would love
to invite you to join us forour next episode of Revelation
Within.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
On the go.
We'll see you then.
Bye for now.
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