200: The Rise and Run Ohana: A Celebration of 200 Episodes featuring Jeff Galloway

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Bye-bye.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, that's a little different, isn't it?
Bye-bye Well, that's a littledifferent, isn't it?
Hello, my friends, and a bigRise and Run.
Welcome to the 200th episode ofthe Rise and Run podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
We're glad you're here.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yay, we hope you enjoyed that.
John and Greg have been in thestudio for weeks recording that.
Editing, re-recording Did aheck of a job, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Even though it sounds nothing like either one of us.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Shh, I thought it did .
I even thought I heard.
I think I heard Alicia playingbongos in the background.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
I thought yeah, you know, I'm a percussionist for
like seven years.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I did a little something, something too A
little on the timpani, a littletinkling with the timpani.
Friends, welcome to thisepisode.
We've been looking forward tothis for a couple of weeks.
I'm Bob.
I'm here on this specialepisode with Alicia.
Hello With Jack.

Speaker 10 (02:22):
Hiya.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Allie is back with us for this one.

Speaker 10 (02:25):
Hey friends.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And Greg is here.
Hey, hey, hey.
This week a special interviewwith our friend, jeff Galloway.
We spent about an hour talkingwith Jeff.
We didn't hit him up with awhole bunch of hey, how do I do
run, walk, run, questions.
We just got a chance to talkwith our friend and I know I
enjoyed it and we hope you willalso.

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And then after that we're goingto take a little time to
reflect on what these 200episodes have meant to us, where
things are, where we see themgoing.
We're just going to have fun.

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All right, friends, let's openthis one, like we do most all

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the others, and take a look atthe training schedule.
Disneyland Halloween out inAnaheim now six weeks away.
You're getting there, gang.
You're getting there.
If you're running the challenge.
You're in training week 12 andyou've got a double up the three
mile walk followed by the 11mile run walk.

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As you get close to reachingthe distances you're going to
run that weekend Wine and Dinenot terribly far away now.
We went under 100 days lastweek.
We're 13 weeks away.
We're in training week five.
We're back on a short one thisweekend three miles on the
training schedule.
Marathon weekend is 24 weeksaway.

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Training week number four thisweek's long run is five and a
half miles.
Another note on the trainingschedule the last registration
of the year springtime surpriseis coming up, five days from the
day of release, one week fromthe day that we're recording

(06:09):
this.
What I'm telling you is it'snext Tuesday, july 29th, which
means Club Run Disney registered.
Today 29th is for us regularfolks, for us regular folks, a
reminder that if you'reregistering, join us In our
Facebook community chat groupFor springtime surprise weekend.

(06:33):
We do Help one another getregistered and we kind of have a
good time.
I've got people now who lookforward to registration Instead
of fearing it.
It's kind of fun.
I will set up a Zoom call forthat so we can chat with one
another.

Speaker 10 (06:49):
It does kind of get the nerves out, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
It does.
It's really helpful, allie.
It really is.
We get to talk with one anotherwhile we're complaining about
how come this thing's not openyet, what's going on, but it is.
It's a whole lot better thansitting by yourself at the
computer screen and going gosh.
I wonder what's going on.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
It was honestly so much more relaxing the last time
.
My first and last time I'vedone it it was great.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I can't believe.
I look forward to registrationsnow, but I do.
Anytime I get a chance to visitwith our friends who listen, I
have a good time, I enjoy that.
Our friends who listen, I, Ihave a good time, I enjoy that.
So that's the training schedule.
That's what's coming up.
Let's take a quick peek.
How's the training been going,friends?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I have a really exciting update, um, so I talked
a couple of weeks ago how I'vebeen doing the restorative yoga
and hopefully getting back intorunning, and today I did my
first run and I don't have anyback pain, which is really,
really good.
So I'm going to continue to dothe restorative yoga and doing

(07:53):
my small strength training thatI'm doing, but I'm really
hopeful that I'm back on track,because it's actually been two
months to the day since my lastrun.
I didn't realize I thought ithad been a month, not two months
to the day since my last run.
I didn't realize I thought ithad been a month, not two months
.
So I'm really grateful that I'mable to move in the right
direction and that I took thetime to listen to my body and

(08:16):
knew what it needed, and now Ifeel stronger and better for it.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So Good, good for you , yes.
That is exciting and I'm happy.
And, yeah, I hope you continueon Wine and Dine your next
scheduled event.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yes, I might throw in something local, if things go
okay.
But yes.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Well, speaking of Wine and Dine.
Training Allie, how's yourtraining going?

Speaker 10 (08:39):
Well, I'm doing it, but it's been kind of rough the
last couple of weeks.
It's been like very, very hotin like the nineties hundreds
stuff like that Like it feelslike Florida weather and we've
been getting rain.
It's been really muggy and it'sjust been kind of miserable.
So I've been going very slow.
Um, I know, during some of mylong runs I've been texting

(09:03):
people being like I'm running,like I can't believe I'm running
.
Um.
So it feels kind of crazy, butI didn't get my last long run.
Last week's long run I didn'tget in, so I got to try to fit
it in sometime this week.
Or you know, message coach andsee um if he wants to change my,
my training.
But I think tomorrow's lookingpretty good.

(09:25):
So I think I'm gonna sneak outtomorrow morning and do my five
miles good for you so whatyou're saying?
it's not sweater weather, uh upin uh up in hampshire right now.
Not quite yet it's sweatingweather.
Yeah, I don't know where thisheat wave came from, but we have
been going through it, that'sfor sure.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
A lot of the country has really, if you look at the
weather map, a lot of, but wehave been going through it,
that's for sure.
A lot of the country has really, if you look at the weather map
, a lot of the country has beengoing through a heat wave.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
Yep.
So all I can say is just juststay on the bus, even if you've
like missed a couple, you know,walk more.
Just try to.
Just try to keep up withsomething.
Something's always better thannothing.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, I'm going to add and I'm not going to tell
you the numbers from around here.
Some of you may have seen them.
Yeah, I'll go back to what Italked about last week.
You get into survival mode Ifyou're out there in a
temperature where it's justcrazy and maybe even dangerous
to go ahead and run.
Yeah, do what you can Back itdown and walk if you have to.
Talking about the heat andtalking about slowing down, I

(10:28):
had this conversation with Jeffand we're going to hear a whole
lot more from Jeff in a littlebit, but we didn't talk about
this this week.
You know he has his rule slowdown 30 seconds for every five
degrees over 60, a feel-liketemperature of 60.
And I joked with him once.
I said, jeff, I'd have to runbackwards to do that and he
pointed out and as always he wascorrect that it is folks who
are acclimated and feel likethey're used to the heat who are

(10:51):
more likely to get in troublein the heat.
It's not the folks from coldweather who go oh you know no,
because they'll back it down.
But you get guys now I'm notone of them, but you will get
folks who will go oh, I'm toughenough, I can handle this, I'm
used to it, I've been doing itall my life and they'll get in
trouble.

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So don't let you be one of them.
Back it down if you have to.
The weather will cool off, youknow that.
And summer training, even slowsummer training, leads to fall
PRs.
Trust me, trust me, it'll work.
Caution runners.

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Change of topic ahead.
Oh, there you go.
There's another one, we kind oflike that.
That is our friend RileyClaremont, who you hear doing
the caution runners, cautionathletes, caution, whatever
they're calling them this raceseason at the Run Disney event.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
So, thank you, riley, thank you, thank you so much,
Riley, for entertaining my crazy, crazy idea.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It was great and very , very nice of you and you will
hear him again in the episodeand in the next couple of
episodes.
We kind of like that.
We're going to keep playing it.
But, as he said, this is atopic change we're going to
visit.
We were so excited that Jeffwas able to join us for episode

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200.
He actually joined us a coupleof weeks ago.
We've held on to it till now.
I know I had a blast recordingthis one.
We think you're going to enjoyit.
Also For episode 200, wewelcome back someone who really
needs no introduction to ourlisteners.
That doesn't matter, I'm goingto do it anyway.
Our friend Jeff Galloway ishere, olympian author, coach and

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the voice and the impetusbehind the RunWalkRun method.
He's been called and Igenuinely believe this to be
true the most influential personin the history of recreational
running, and that's saying amouthful.
He has helped thousands,probably even hundreds of
thousands, of runners cross thefinish line upright and with a

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smile on their face.
Jeff's the official trainingconsultant for Run Disney has
been since the very get-go.
He's been an inspiration and aguiding force for so many of us
in the Run Disney family andwhether you've met him on the
expo floor or out on the course,that trademark encouragement

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and enthusiasm.
You know Jeff's passion forrunning is contagious and we are
just delighted to have him hereon this episode.
Jeff, welcome back to the Riseand Run podcast.

Speaker 21 (13:39):
Well, bob, thank you so much and gosh,
congratulations on 200.
Who would have really projectedthat in the beginning?
Who would have thought it?
And you're just getting startedbecause of the people you know
your team that puts all of thistogether, and then the members

(13:59):
who show up and who support Riseand Run.
What a great group of people.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Thank you, jeff, thank you.
We couldn't be prouder.
We love what we do here, but weare so proud of the family
that's grown up around it and Ialways go back and give you
credit for that too.
I mean, you've set the tone.
You set the Run Disney tone andwe're just trying to carry on
that legacy.
You set the run to Disney Tomeand we're just trying to carry

(14:26):
on that legacy.
You've been with us before andin the past we've done a bunch
of running questions, whichmakes sense.
But we talked to our buddy,coach Twiggs, a couple weeks ago
and he answered a bunch ofrunning questions, episode 200,.
I think I'd like to make thisone, this opportunity, a little
bit more about you, jeff, andlet our friends get to know you

(14:54):
a little better.
So I want to kick off.
We do a thing called the RaceReport Spotlight and we have
friends that we invite to comeand spend 10 or 15 minutes with
us, and I always start off withthis question how did you get
started in running?
And I always start off withthis question how did you get
started in running, mr Galloway?
How did you get started inrunning?

Speaker 21 (15:11):
Well, I was forced to.
My father was in the Navythrough my seventh grade year
and when I entered the eighthgrade year he got out of active
duty service.
We went to a new school wherehe taught.
The new school required boys togo out for strenuous athletics

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after school.
I had never had that happen,because I had gone to 13
previous schools.
I had no skills in anythingreally because I was bouncing
around so much and I flounderedaround in a whole lot of ways at
this new school In terms ofathletics.

(15:56):
I tried football in the fall,which was a total disaster.
I mean, I was a very overweightkid and so it was a good choice
that I go out for the footballteam, but I didn't have any
skills and it was just really abad experience for me.

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But in the meantime I fell inwith a group of kids who were
cross-country runners becausethey were funny and we played
jokes on one another and gaveour editorial comments about
what was going on in schoolthroughout the day and they
dragged me out kicking andscreaming during the winter to

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go out for winter cross-country.
Screaming during the winter togo out for winter, cross country
.
I was under the impression thatI could jog out to the woods
and hide out in the woods andnot have to do the workouts.
Because some of the kids wereactually doing that.
Jeff, where?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
was this?
Pardon the interruption?
Where was this?

Speaker 21 (17:02):
It was in Atlanta, okay, thank you.
At Westminster Schools inAtlanta and I got caught by one
of the older kids and he said,galloway, you're going to run
with us from now on.
And I was really shaking in myConverse, all-star shoes, yes.
Chuck Taylor.

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So I get out there on that nextday and I didn't make half a
mile, but I was totallyexhausted and I had hit my wall.
I had no vision of how I couldpossibly go any further than
that, and it hurt bad.

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So I walked back and I wasexpecting as what happened in
football that the other kids whowere on the cross country team
would come back and make fun ofme, but that didn't happen.
It was just the opposite.
They patted me on the back.
Some of the older kids came upand said we're so glad that

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you're with us, you're part ofthe team now.
It's a totally differentphilosophy and one that I deeply
appreciated, but everythinghurt so bad.
I was willing to try to findsome other sport to do, but
within 15 to 20 minutes afterfinishing that run, I suddenly

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got all those brain benefitsthat we do in running.
I had a good attitude, I hadenergy.
I went home and just aced myhomework assignments, which I
hadn't been able to do, and Isaid you know, maybe there's
something going on here.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And those types of benefits have continued now for
more than 66 years, jeff, I'mthinking that that kid who said,
galloway, you're running withme, changed all of our lives,
isn't?
That something our lives Isn't?

Speaker 21 (19:07):
that something.
His name is Andy High School.
He's still alive, he's stillrunning Just a great guy, and he
was our leading runner forthree years at the school, andy,
on behalf of a whole bunch ofus, thanks a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
So you ran a half a mile and then you walked a half
a mile and that was thebeginning, I'm assuming, of the
intervals, but you probablydidn't start.
Did you start with like fullrunning and then you evolved
into what we kind of do now withthe interval running?

Speaker 21 (19:40):
I didn't do any of my run, walk run for a long time
actually, when I ran longer andwas running by myself.
Even back in that day I didtake walk breaks.
I realized that when I washuffing and puffing, things

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would get a whole lot worse if Ididn't take a walk break
scuffing things would get awhole lot worse if I didn't take
a walk break, and so I wasdoing that on longer runs
through high school and collegeand beyond, but on the regular
runs with the team I would justtry to stay up with them as long
as I could and realize that Ishowed absolutely no promise as

(20:22):
a competitive runner.
I did not even qualify to go tothe state championships in
Georgia until my senior year.
I spent almost five long yearsworking as hard as I could,
awful workouts, hurt on everyone of the fast ones and didn't

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really show much for it.
But I had a great group offriends.
I had all of these mentalbenefits that I didn't want to
go away, and so that's what keptme in the game.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
Friends make everything better, don't they?
Even the hard things.

Speaker 21 (20:59):
Yes, especially in my case because it was my 14th
school.
I was not in any one schoolvery long at any time, so, and I
was the new kid in class, so Ididn't meet many friends.
I mean, you know, I just didn'thave time to do that, and this
was the first time that I reallyhad friends and they were just

(21:22):
really good friends to this day.

Speaker 10 (21:24):
I love this story.
That's so great.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, that's the life of some military children not
all, but that can be the life ofa military child.
Somewhere along the line,though, something clicked,
something changed.
You didn't go from high schoolto the Olympics.
When did all of a sudden thisbecome?
Not all of a sudden.
When did this become?
Hey, I am pretty good at this.

Speaker 21 (21:47):
Well, I did not get any offers for scholarships, so
I went to a highly academicschool, and that ends up being a
major point in my life becauseat this school, which was
Wesleyan University inMiddletown, connecticut, I was

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joined by two other runners thatyou may know.
One was Ambie Burfoot, who, inhis senior year at Wesleyan, won
the Boston Marathon.
He is the only collegiaterunner in history to have won
the Boston Marathon.
And the other runner that youmay know is a fellow named Bill

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Rogers.
I heard of him.
Three of us were there at aschool that had 1,200 people and
no scholarships.
They had absolutely no athleticbig support program, and we
were there because we lovedrunning.
We really enjoyed thecamaraderie that we had with one

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another.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
To this day, I was going to say yeah, yeah,
Fantastic.

Speaker 19 (23:03):
So all that hard work paid off you actually
competed in the 72 Olympics inthe 10,000 meters.
So what are some of yourmemories and experiences of that
event?

Speaker 21 (23:18):
Well, to bridge the gap between my Wesleyan
experience, I was part of themilitary draft generation.
I had a low draft number, mybirthday and I was going to be
sent to Vietnam.
So I enrolled in a navalofficer program and in the

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process got shipped over on aship to Vietnam, which is a
whole nother story.
I was in for three years.
The best part about my navalcareer was that my second tour
of duty was the.

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I was the executive officer ofa mine sweeper that was
stationed in Pearl Harbor, butit was going through the
shipyards because it had a lotof work that needed to be done
and things kept going wrong withthe shipyard and I wasn't.
We didn't go to battle.

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We were scheduled to go over toVietnam again, but in the
meantime I was able to get myrunning back on track, and I did
.
I finished my naval career beingable to run in Honolulu, which
is one of the reasons why Ipicked Honolulu as my marathon

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coming up this year.
But I came out of the Navyrunning as well as I had before
I went in and it was really amajor change, because off
Vietnam I couldn't run a stepand I got really out of shape.
I gained weight and the time inHonolulu was just wonderful to

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get back into running.
Now, in terms of the Olympics,the whole scenario there was
when I got out of the Navy in1970, I had two years to get in
shape if I wanted to try to moveto that next level and I did.
I joined the Florida Track Clubas a charter member of that

(25:34):
club I think there were six orseven of us when I joined in the
club and I was able to access alot of good information from
Jack Batchelor, who had been onthe 68 Olympic team, and Frank

(25:55):
Shorter, who I'd actuallytrained with a bit during
college days because he went toYale and during the winter
Wesleyan didn't have an indoortrack and I got permission to go
down and run on the Yale trackand worked out with Frank
several times.
But I have to say that Frankand Jack really helped me step

(26:23):
up.
And Frank was able to find somelow-cost housing in Vail,
colorado, for two months beforethe Olympic trials.
And that really was the crowningtouch because I needed to
qualify for the 10K.
I needed a minute and a half PR.

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I only had one more chance.
It was in the nationalchampionship.
So after my two months of veryhard training up at FAIL, I
drove out to Seattle for thenational championship.
Last chance to do it.
I set a PR by two minutes,qualified for the Olympic trials

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and on Olympic trials dayeverything came together.
It was an extremely hot day andmost of the runners there were
just really thinking aboutkeying off other runners that
they wanted to beat and move upto possibly get a place on the

(27:30):
team.
I knew how awful over 90 degreeheat was when you ran a 10k, and
so I started out in last placefor the first mile.
For the first four laps I wasin dead last, and then they
started coming back to me and Ijust would pass one and then I'd

(27:55):
look at the next one.
He was my next victim and I'dstalk him and pass him and I
kept doing this.
And you know, even though itwas awfully tough and awfully
hot, I had paced myself well andat about four and a half miles
I did an accounting, realizedthat I was in third place and if
I didn't blow it I was going.

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I came in ranked 12th in thatrace and to be able to then move
up into second place andqualify for the team was the
greatest exhilaration incompetitive running that I have
ever had in my life and it wasjust a wonderful situation.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I imagine Now, at this point in your life.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Of course you expected to makethe team on the marathon and not
necessarily the 10K.
Is that correct?

Speaker 21 (28:55):
That is correct.
The way that Bill Bowerman whowas our Olympic coach in 72, set
up the Olympic trials was justas it was in Munich.
In other words, he had the sameschedule, day by day, and the
same time that each event wasrun.

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Because he said, if people aregoing to be doubling or tripling
in various events, they need toshow that they can do that in
the Olympic trials.
Well, what this meant fordistance runners is you would
run your 10K and then seven dayslater would be the marathon,

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and Bowerman was heavily,heavily criticized for doing
that.
And it was said by media folksand coaches and athletes by the
hundreds that this was the worstthing that you could possibly
do for distance running.

(29:58):
And we're just going to have avery weak team in the marathon
as a result of that very weakteam in the marathon.
As a result of that, well, as ithappened, I chose not to run my

(30:18):
own race but to help myteammate, jack Batchelor,
qualify for the Olympic team,because he had not been able to
do so in the 10K and he wasn't agood pacer and that's what
usually got him into trouble.
He also didn't think he wasgoing to have to run the
marathon, so his longest run hadonly been 15 miles.
Well, I knew how to pace and Iknew that a conservative pace

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might be able to get Jackqualified.
But I had to hold him backbecause Jack's instincts were to
take off like a rabbit and geta lead and that would have
killed his opportunity.
There were places during thefirst 10 miles when I had to

(31:03):
grab his singlet and hold himback physically.
We were in about 100th place atthe first mile.
We moved up at mile five to61st place and we just kept
moving up and moved into a tiefor third place at 21 miles,

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into a tie for third place at 21miles, and Jack was beat.
I mean, he was hurting bad andso I was his cheerleader and his
brother confessor for past sinsand running and all types of
things and the lookout to tellhim that nobody was coming up on
us.
We had really run away fromeverybody.
So we entered the stands andthe whole stand was standing up

(31:55):
and they were cheering and itwas loud and it was amazing.
They were thinking well,there's one place left to make
the team.
Here are two guys, they'regoing to duke it out and that's
the greatest amount of powerI've ever had in running I was
the only one in that stadiumthat knew how that race was
going to end.

(32:16):
I ran with Jack right to the endand backed off at the end so he
could be the official qualifier, and that's given me more
satisfaction than anything elsethat I've done competitively in
running.
Now, the bottom line on thisstory, in which Bill Bowerman

(32:36):
was criticized heavily forstaging this, is that in the
Munich Olympics the US finishedfirst, fourth and Jack was ninth
.
That is the best finish thatany country has ever done before
or since.
Yeah, so his critics were wrongand Bowerman was right.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Absolutely.
Vindication yes, outstandingAbsolutely.

Speaker 21 (33:02):
Vindication yes.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Outstanding.

Speaker 21 (33:04):
And, by the way, we in the Florida Track Club were
very proud to have had the threeof us in the top four, my
goodness, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
What a wonderful sense, yeah, what a wonderful
source of pride.

Speaker 21 (33:33):
It should have been.
How about the Olympicsthemselves, jeff?
Anything you'd like to shareabout the 72 games?
Well, in my competitive timeperiod, quite honestly, I knew
that I wasn't ready to competeagainst the faster runners that
I was going to have to competeagainst, and sure enough, that
was the case.
I have 98% slow twitch musclefibers.
The marathon was definitely myforte and the 10K was not, but

(33:55):
it was just an amazingexperience to talk to so many
runners and to get their take ontraining and where the better
races were and what their lifewas like in running.
It was a wonderful experiencefor me.
So I and what happenedimmediately after, that is, I

(34:24):
knew what running had done forme, which was so many things
mind, body and spirit.
It changed me as a person and Iwanted to pass this on to other
people.
And so, as I thought about whatwill be the next major theme in
my life, it was how can I helppeople improve the quality of

(34:49):
their life through running, as Ihave experienced?
And so what I ended up doingthe next year is opening my
Fidivity store, and through thestore, we had all types of
clinics and training programsand connections with races,

(35:09):
putting on races and so forth,and that was just a wonderful,
wonderful thing to do for therunning community.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
The first running store in the US it was.
That was in Tallahassee right,it was.

Speaker 21 (35:27):
We started in Tallahassee.
I moved the store to Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Unless we forgot a coupon is how we.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Oh yes.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
As Mrs Galloway gets involved in the story.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
The lovely Barbara Galloway gets involved.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
That was still my favorite story from the last
time we had you on, Jeff.

Speaker 21 (35:42):
Well, I appreciate that Absolutely Sadly.
Last time we had you on JeffWell, I appreciate that
Absolutely Sadly we have had toclose Fidipides.
The COVID really got us, reallydid.
We just couldn't compete withthe online companies and put us
way behind, unfortunately, butit was really a great run of 51

(36:02):
years.
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Wow.
So following the Olympics,instead of really staying as a
professional athlete runner, youdedicated to train to try to
compete at the world-class leveland I had some success at that.

Speaker 21 (36:33):
The following year I made the US national team and
competed against the Russians inRussia and the Africans in
Africa and several otherEuropean countries Winter of the
first Peachtree Absolutely, andthat was just a wonderful

(36:54):
heritage thing for me being anAtlantan and it really has
become an amazing event.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Oh, worldwide.

Speaker 21 (37:06):
You know absolutely my contribution to the race went
beyond winning the very firstone.
I came back in 75 and was oneof the management team that ran
the race for three years.
Of the management team that ranthe race for three years, we

(37:27):
brought in the Atlanta JournalConstitution as a sponsor, who
really made things happen, andour race grew from 1,200 to
12,000 in three years and wewere on.
That's really what allowed therace to take off.
But that was also just a greatseries of experiences Never
looked back.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Also, at one time the American record holder in the
10 mile run.

Speaker 21 (37:51):
That's right, and if I had to say what event during
my key years competitively wouldhave been my best event, I
think it would be the 10 mile.
I ran 47, 49 and um broke theAmerican record.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
That's outstanding.
I'm only chuckling because at47, 49, I'm around mile four.
But it's all relative.
It's all relative and it's allgood.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
So, jeff, we talked a little bit about your coaching
and a big part of what you donow is to tell people about the
run, walk, run method.
It's been really a milestonefor people to be able to get out
there and be runners.
Can you tell us how you firstfound this approach and
developed it?

Speaker 21 (38:41):
Yeah, it was sort of a self-defense type of thing.
I was asked to teach a class,coach a class of bare beginning
runners in 1973, 74 timeframe.
I had never worked with runnersbefore I had coached before,

(39:04):
but not beginners and so as Istarted working with the
beginners, I realized that theywould start out often too fast
and then the next symptom thatyou'd hear would be a lot of
huffing and puffing.
Symptom that you'd hear wouldbe a lot of huffing and puffing,

(39:28):
and then they would startwalking.
So the thing that hit me rightfrom the very start when I met
with these my class is, if youput the walk brakes in before
they have to walk, that theymight want to continue running.
And I wanted them to continuerunning, if for no other reason,

(39:50):
to be customers in my store.
The first rule that we had inRun Walk Run was when anyone in
one of the pace groups huffedand puffed, everybody walked and
, as a result, everybody walkedand, as a result, at the end of
the 10-week class, every singleone of the people there not only

(40:11):
finished a 5 or a 10k, but noneof them got injured, and I'd
never been with a group of morethan 20 runners in which there
were no injuries at all in threeor four weeks.
But this was 10 weeks andeverybody was really jazzed
about running because I went outwith each pace group every week

(40:35):
and enforced the walk breakswhen anyone was huffing and
puffing.
So that's how it started.
And then I immediately realizedthat the reasons there weren't
any injuries was theincorporation of strategic walk
breaks before they had to do it,and so I started using it in my

(41:00):
beginning programs in the store, using it in my beginning
programs in the store, andwithin three years we had
Galloway training programs in 30cities around the country and
it just started growing fromthere.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Jeff, you developed such an amazing method that has
again, as we have talked in thisepisode and the several times
we've had you on the past, thatit's really transformed lives
and it's transformed running.
When you first starteddeveloping this method, what
type of criticism or skepticismwere you met with from the

(41:39):
running community to say like,yeah, sure, like this might be
working.
But you know we're taking walkbreaks here and you know, was
that considered a fashion fauxpas when you were, you know, had
this idea in development?

Speaker 21 (41:52):
Even back in my day, competitively during the 70s,
at the world class level I hadmet a number of Africans when we
went over to Africa whoadmitted with pride that they
took walk breaks and long runsand then they would come up and

(42:15):
whip my butt in races.
And so I realized that walkingwas not anything that was just
for beginners, that it waswhenever anyone really needed to
use it.
And I will tell you that rightfrom the beginning, when I

(42:37):
started writing for Runner'sWorld Magazine and I was a
monthly columnist for 21 years,and I was a monthly columnist
for 21 years but when I startedwriting, there were a number of
people on the staff there whoopenly told me that they didn't
believe one bit in my run, walk,run method and that they

(42:57):
thought it was a bunch of BS.
Well, one of those people Well,one of those people corralled
me one time at a big expo whereboth of us were.
He came up to me and he said youknow, I've got to hand it to
you.
I've got a story to tell you.
I was on the press truck in thestory, but about 17 miles the

(43:26):
leader, who was primarily a 10Krunner, started walking and of
course everybody said well,we've got to start looking for
who's going to win this race.
Well, he walks a little andthen he gets his mojo back and
he runs, and then he walks again, and he repeated that five or

(43:51):
six times and he ended upwinning the race, which was a
huge race over there with a lotof prize money.
And all of a sudden, a guy whohad been a big critic of mine
said you know, maybe there'ssomething to this.

(44:11):
But yes, there were a lot ofpeople who said that there's no
way that this can work.
And I said well, I've beencollecting data and at the time
in the late 70s, when I startedgetting a lot of criticism, I
already had over 10,000 peoplein the database and I said you

(44:34):
know, we've got about 98% ofthem that have shown me that
they're running faster by usingRunWalkRun than they did
non-stop.
And that would shut up some ofthe critics.
But what also happened?
Was.
I was part of a tour over to theAthens Marathon for 19 years in

(45:00):
Athens, greece, and we went tothe major museums over there and
the big museum was the NationalArchaeological Museum.
There was newspaper articlethat was written in the first

(45:31):
marathon race in history, whichwas the Olympic marathon in 1896
in Athens, and it was writtenin Greek, so I brought over our
guide who read it to me word forword, and the phrase that I
will remember to the rest of mylife and also defused criticism

(45:55):
was this guy followed all therunners from marathon into
Athens, from marathon intoAthens, and his quote was every
one of those Olympic marathonerswalk significant portions of
the race.
And so when I tell people whohave some qualms about this that

(46:18):
the founders of our sport walksignificant portions of that
race that founded our sport yeah, absolutely they usually shut
up.
The other thing that I say,though that was effective is.
You know, I joined runningbecause it was a free form

(46:42):
activity and allowed me to go atthe pace that I wanted to, to
do whatever I wanted to when Iran, and this is what attracts a
whole lot of people here.
But you tell me that takingwalk breaks is against the rules
of running, which a lot ofpeople told me, and so I go on

(47:03):
to say there must be a rule bookthat you're following.
Could you please show me therules that say that you can't
take walk breaks, Right?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I find some irony in the fact that there are rules
for competitive walking butthere are rules for competitive
running.
That's exactly right walking,but there aren't rules for
competitive running.
That's exactly right and that'skind of funny.
Hey, I want to shift gears alittle bit and let's talk some
about the way many of us havecome to know you, jeff, and
that's through Run Disney.
Now, I said in the intro,you've been associated with Run

(47:39):
Disney from the get-go.
I'm not sure you were the chieftrainer at the time of the
first marathon, but I know youwere their first chief trainer.
How did that come to be?

Speaker 21 (47:52):
Well, the first marathon in 94, I was there and
I ran it.
The marathon was the only eventand a lot of people, of course,
are surprised by that, but thefact is that Disney did a great
job in promoting the marathonand also in bringing in a number

(48:16):
of legends in the sport FrankShorter, bill Rogers, a lot of
my friends, a lot of world-classfolks, a lot of my friends, a
lot of world-class folks, jimRyan, myler and so forth.
So it was a big deal and as theyears went by and they kept

(48:36):
having it, they invited me backand several of the folks who
were on the management team forthe races which were not called
Run Disney at the time it wasDisney Endurance Series.
But these folks on the staffsaid you know, you're the only

(48:58):
guy that I think addressestraining for the people that
we're attracting to our events,and so we want to keep bringing
you back.
And so they did, year afteryear.
So I've been to every singleone of the January Walt Disney

(49:20):
World Marathon weekends and I'mvery proud of that World
Marathon weekends and I'm veryproud of that, and it's just so
great to see people transformtheir lives, as you mentioned
earlier, through the Run Disneyevents and through running
itself.
But when Run Disney was founded,they were looking for somebody

(49:42):
to be a spokesperson and theyreally looked outside of the
group that was coming, includingme, and then they came back to
me and said you know, we havelooked around but I think you
might be the best person forthis job.
So we started working togetherand it has been just an amazing

(50:10):
coming together of mutualbenefits.
They provide this greatplatform of people who want to
be a part of a Disney event andalso they want to get in shape
too, and so many of thebeginners at the Run Disney

(50:32):
events are bare beginners inexercise.
They're really novices and mymethod can get them to do
whatever event they want to therun, walk, run particularly.
But there's so many otheraspects of my training method

(50:52):
the longer long distance eventsthat can be walked, the mental
training part of it, theavoidance of injury and so forth
.
But anyway, it's just a greatteamwork effort between Galloway
and now our PACE groups.

(51:13):
There, as you know, they'vetaken on a life of their own.
They really will take peoplewho had no hope whatsoever of
getting there before the balloonladies, and we get them there.
It's wonderful stuff.

Speaker 10 (51:29):
I love the story that you told at the beginning
about how you felt like you werereally bad at running and then
your friends were like no, youdid an awesome job, this is
you're doing it.
And then you kind of have honedyour your craft and trained more
.
And the more you train, themore you felt like you could do

(51:51):
anything, including being anOlympian.
And I'm paraphrasing abrilliant television show called
Adventure Time, where thelittle dog says and I'm going to
paraphrase it because he kindof says a swear, but he says
being bad at something is thefirst step to being sort of good
at something.
Right?
So you have to get through thatmental toughness, part of it to

(52:14):
say like, okay, you know what,it's okay that I'm not great at
it at first.
I'm going to keep training andI'm going to like do it step by
step and you give us the guides,step by step, to get there,
which, honestly, I never thoughtI could be a marathoner.
And I know I've cried, huggingyou at the end of the races
before probably babblingsomething about that.

(52:35):
Thank you so much, thanks forhelping me get here.
I can't believe I did it andyou would always say you did all
the hard work right?

Speaker 21 (52:42):
Well, there are two points that you brought up.
The first one is that I canidentify with all these novices
because I was one of them and Ifelt all of the doubts that
anyone could ever have and I hada whole lot of other stress on

(53:05):
me the son of a teacher at theschool and I was at the bottom
of my class in risk of flunkingout of the school.
So I got on the cross-countryteam and you know how it is in
running groups you end up havingdiscussions and arguments and
you end up trying to well have adebate really on a run.

(53:32):
And I realized that inpresenting my cases for things
as I argued my points, that Iwasn't any dumber than any of
those other runners in my groupand they were on the honor roll
at the school and I was at thebottom of the class, and so it

(53:53):
really reset my expectations ofmyself and I ended up on the
honor roll too.

Speaker 10 (54:00):
It's like not only what you could do on the course
as far as your times go, butwhat you can do in life and what
you can do all sorts of thingsas far as training for the run
Disney races.
If there's somebody that is afirst-timer running a 5K or
first-timer running a halfmarathon or any distance, what
would you say to them for thetraining that we're coming up on

(54:20):
?

Speaker 21 (54:21):
Well, the most important thing is to be regular
with your training.
The second most important thingis to get in all of the longer
workouts.
You can actually walk everysingle one of the longer
workouts and you will get thesame endurance as if you had run

(54:43):
it.
But you don't have to be beatenup by that Now in order to stay
ahead of the balloon ladies.
Up by that Now in order to stayahead of the balloon ladies.
There's another set of thingsyou can do on the shorter
distance days that can allow youto improve your speed.
But the combination of the veryslow or walking long ones and

(55:06):
being regular with those threeworkouts a week, we'll get you
there.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
We know it, we do.

Speaker 10 (55:14):
Yeah, all of us, I think, are testament to that.
Compared to other races thatyou've run or that you would
train people in running, what'sunique about training for a run
Disney race compared to atraditional road race?
You might see.

Speaker 21 (55:26):
The run Disney races , first of all have such a
supportive philosophy andatmosphere and we at Galloway
are part of that team and we'revery proud to be a part of the
team.
Welcome whoever wants to come.

(55:47):
We will support you, we'll giveyou the training, we'll pull
you along in races through ourpace groups.
I'll be at the expo practicallythe whole time, answering
questions, helping you,supporting you along the way,
and this is something you justdon't see in other races.

(56:11):
The other major thing is that,with the run-walk-run being used
in all the pace groups, thereare so many aha moments of
people who have struggled to getin the long ones and realize
that with the run walk runmethod they can probably cover

(56:36):
any distance they want to ifthey regularly build up to it.
And you know there's not anyother race that I know of that
brings run Walk Run intoprominence, and we will never
say that this is the only way todo these races.

(56:59):
You can run nonstop.
We support anyone who hasquestions about training or
whatever, and if they want torun nonstop, that's absolutely
fine.
But with the Run Walk Run we'rebringing in so many people that
would never have a chance to bepart of these events in any

(57:21):
city around the world if theydidn't use Run, walk, run.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Absolutely, Jeff.
Here's a quick one.
What's your favorite part of aRun Disney race weekend?
Jeff, here's a quick one.
What's?

Speaker 21 (57:32):
your favorite part of a Run Disney Race weekend?
It's the being at the expo andthe direct communication with
several thousand runners solvingproblems, hearing their stories
.
It's just a bonding experiencethat touches my heart Going back
to the Run Walk Run.

Speaker 19 (57:50):
The Run Walk Run method has helped thousands of
runners stay injury-free.

Speaker 21 (58:01):
What are some of the common mistakes you see new
runners start and do.
The first mistake is that arunner will leave out some of
the three workouts a week.
Our program of three workouts aweek is minimal and it's doable

(58:22):
.
But if you don't get in threeand you're only doing one or two
every week, there's going tocome a point when you just can't
stay up with the pace that youneed.
You lose that conditioning.
So three days a week areimportant.
That's a mistake.
Then, once that there's someconditioning that comes up, the

(58:49):
mistake is going out too fast.
It's so easy to do in any racebecause you see these people
around you.
They're really going by you,passing you, and some of them
are a whole lot bigger than youare or a whole lot older than

(59:10):
you are, and so a lot ofbeginners will get drawn in with
this and it'll pull them along,to their detriment, as we know.
And then, finally, the nextmistake is not setting the next
goal after you do a race,because having that goal on a

(59:35):
calendar can keep your momentumgoing.
You have really spent monthstraining for this event.
You're accomplishing it on raceweekend and you don't want to
lose that along the way.
So having it on the calendar isthe best thing I've found.
It's a cognitive tool, getsyour human brain working and

(59:58):
it'll get you out there moreoften.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Well, we see that, with so many of our friends,
after Dopey weekend, after themarathon weekend, oh boy, that's
right.
All right, my friend, look, hey, you just passed a milestone
birthday.
Happy birthday, mr Galloway.
Well, thank you.

Speaker 21 (01:00:17):
I'm very pleased to be here to have celebrated that
birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
I understand that and we are also very pleased.
Of course we have an agreement.
I'm sure you have thisagreement with others.
You've still got 20 years tillyou run to your 100.
And I've got about 27, 28.
But look, we know you're notdone.
We know you've many goodrunning years ahead.

(01:00:44):
But we're going to finish upthis chat by asking you to look
back a little bit on your lastsix or seven decades in running.

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
What does that mean to you?
To know that you've introducedso many people to the world of
running, many who never thoughtit was possible for them, myself
included, and I'm sure you knowa bunch of us, I think also
share that sentiment.

Speaker 21 (01:01:06):
Well, it's really magical at these Run Disney
weekends, the stories thatpeople come by and tell me about
, and it really is a wonderfulseries of things that people
have been able to do becausethey went out there and trained

(01:01:30):
regularly for several months andthey say you know, there is no
way that I would have ever beenable to go this distance if it
weren't for your run, walk, run.

Speaker 10 (01:01:44):
Yeah, I'm sure you hear that over and over.
Do you ever get tired ofhearing that?

Speaker 21 (01:01:48):
I never have a bad day because of that.
I mean either by email or inperson.
I was in the supermarket acouple of days ago and somebody
recognized me and came over andthanked me, and this you know, I
never take any of that forgranted.

(01:02:10):
It's just absolutely wonderfulstuff.
But the crowning event thathighlights that whole situation
occurred during one of my verylast Disney World marathons, in
which I was running with my wifeBarb and I had to go to the

(01:02:35):
restroom.
So she went on and was runningand I caught up with her.
And when I caught up with hershe said did you hear what that
guy said just a minute ago?
Did you run by and hear that?
I said no, what was it?
He said he was talking to afriend of his and he said that

(01:02:58):
guy going by us is Jeff Galloway, and it must be amazing to help
so many people be able to dothis and then be out there with
them while they're doing it.
It really is true, it's awonderful experience and I'm so
fortunate and thank you, thankyou, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Jeff, I feel like this episode is like your own
personal.
This is your life, but it butin in podcast version.
And you have been a trailblazerand have achieved so much in
various topics that we have, youknow, talked in this interview
being an olympian, opening thefirst running store, becoming

(01:03:46):
the official consultant for rundisney, and then there's plenty
of other things we haven'tchatted about, like an
incredible comeback from a heartattack and to be able to
continue to put your foot to thepavement day after day after
day.
You have achieved suchincredible things in your
professional career.
If you had to pick one of them,that would be your most

(01:04:09):
memorable.
What would it be?

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
Well, it has to be Run Walk Run and you have to
realize that before I startedpublicizing Run Walk Run, people
were using it in races,particularly the longer ultra
races, where it's been a themeright from the get-go.

(01:04:32):
But what my contribution isI've collected the data on it,
I've set up the parameters as tohow you figure out what pace
you should be doing through mymagic mile, which has more than
100,000 data points on it.
And then what run walk runstrategy is going to work best.

(01:04:58):
Well, that has more than500,000 data points on it and
people that have reported inwhat worked best, based on paces
per mile.
Well, we've databased that andwe can tell people very
accurately how it works.
So we really give peoplestep-by-step ways to not only

(01:05:23):
get in this but to enjoy it andto be able to keep enjoying it.
Because the thing about RunWalk Run and the old thought
that Bob and I have of runninguntil we're 100 is that you can
keep adapting Run Walk Run asyou get older.
In my case, when I had my heartattack, when I started back two

(01:05:49):
months after having my heartattack later, I couldn't run
more than three seconds and Iwas willing if that was all I
could ever run.
I was willing to do thatbecause of the brain benefits I
was getting from every run.
And, by the way, my surgeon,who put in the five stints when

(01:06:17):
after my heart attack, said thatrunning saved my life because
he followed up with some testsand found out that I had
developed collateral circulationaround my 100% blockage into my
heart.
And the other miracle actuallywas a week later after my heart

(01:06:41):
attack in which my heart failedand fortunately I was in the
hospital and I was dead forabout four and a half minutes.
But because I was in thehospital, they tried CPR.
It didn't work.
If I had had that heart failureanywhere else, I would not be

(01:07:05):
alive today.
I wouldn't be here.
I am so lucky and so fortunateI wouldn't be here.
I am so lucky and so fortunate,but I will say that the support
of so many people like Rise andRun folks is just an amazing
thing.
That keeps me going.

(01:07:26):
And thank you, thank you andthank you again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
So you alluded to it earlier, but we all know that
you are running the HonoluluMarathon in December.
Why did you decide to choosethat marathon and decide to
celebrate running doing that one?

Speaker 21 (01:07:55):
host of reasons, from the fact that Honolulu is
where I started my comebackafter coming out of the Navy and
I had so many wonderfulexperiences with the running
community over there and I'vewanted to give back.
I've run, I've run thatmarathon a number of times.
I won that marathon in thesecond year.

(01:08:16):
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I won the second year andI beat my friend Frank Shorter
oh wow and my friend Kenny Moore.
The only time that I beat FrankShorter was in that race,
star-studded field man, that'spretty cool.
Well, I have to admit, they hadrun the Fukuoka Marathon a

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couple of weeks before.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Edit that out, greg, edit that out.
We were still tuckered out.

Speaker 21 (01:08:48):
But my wife Barbara and I got engaged out there
during Marathon Weekend and thatwill be 50 years commemorating
the Marathon Weekend.
It's a very special place forus and there are a number of

(01:09:08):
other things that I could listabout Honolulu are a number of
other things that I could listabout Honolulu, but the one
that's at the top of the list isthe fact that it has no time
limit and, quite honestly, thedamage that I suffered due to
Agent Orange when I was in theNavy uh has produced permanent

(01:09:32):
damage in my heart and I willnot be able to uh come close in
most marathons to being able tostay up with the 16 minute uh
time.
I would get swept.

Speaker 10 (01:09:48):
Well, I don't know if you know this, Jeff, but many
of the marathoners at theoriginal marathon walked a
significant portion of the race.

Speaker 21 (01:09:56):
Absolutely.
Thank you for reminding me ofthat, but it's going to be a
celebration and it's going to bea wonderful celebration.
It's such a celebration in thatI've got a chance to do
something that I don't thinkanybody has done.

(01:10:16):
My friend, ambie Burfoot, and Ihave done a little research on
it.
We don't believe that anybodyhas run a marathon in eight
decades of life, and now that Iam 80, of life, and now that I
am 80, I've got a chance to dothat.

(01:10:36):
I started running in my teenageyears and have run marathons in
every other decade of life, andnow, with my new decade, I'm
ready to go, and Honolulu is theone.
What a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
I'm excited to be out there with you, Jeff.
I'm looking forward to it.
Super yeah.
I also think not many folkshave finished a marathon after
they died.
That's right.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 21 (01:11:04):
Yeah, and actually I've spoken with a couple of
medical researchers who lookedinto my case and they said that
the odds that I would come backfrom my heart failure was four
to one.
I only had about a 24% chanceof being able to continue living

(01:11:30):
after that heart failure and,thanks to my wife and my
wonderful medical team, I'mplanning on running until I'm
100.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Let's drop the mic.
That's awesome, jeff.
Just as we said before westarted the recording, we're not
setting you off into the sunset.
This is not the Jeff farewellto Rise and Run.
We certainly hope we'll haveyou back, maybe even later this
year when we get close to Dopey,but for this episode, for this

(01:12:02):
landmark episode to follow up alandmark birthday with one of my
heroes, it's been a real honorand we thank you so much for
sharing your time with us.

Speaker 21 (01:12:14):
It's always an honor for me to be on the show.
You guys affect so many peoplein a positive way and I'm one of
them.
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:12:25):
Caution Runners.
The topic is about to changeright now.
The topic is about to changeright now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
We asked and, as always, you delivered.
We asked you if you wouldplease call our hotline and
leave us a reflection, a nicestory, your own personal point
of view on the first 200episodes, and you came through
for us and we're going to play acouple of them.
We'll start right now.

Speaker 25 (01:12:52):
whether it is your first race or more.
Think the miles are easier withfriends.
Congratulations on episode 200and look forward to the future.

Speaker 9 (01:13:02):
It's alan from anaheim 200 episodes of rise and
run.
Wow, that is almost four yearsof excellent podcast.
And enjoying it on my trainingfrom Andrew in Atlanta.

Speaker 11 (01:13:16):
Hi Rise and Run crew .
Congratulations on 200 episodes.
That's a huge accomplishment.
Cheers to your next 200.
This is Beth calling fromMyrtle Beach, South Carolina.
I'm honored to say I was thefirst person to leave a race
report back on June of 2023.
I love this podcast.

(01:13:38):
I love this community.
Congratulations, Keep onkeeping on.

Speaker 26 (01:13:44):
Hey, Rise and Run friends.
This is Brandy from Houston,Texas.
Congratulations on your 200thepisode.
I'm so proud of you.
That's such a hugeaccomplishment and I really want
to say thank you.
I've listened to every episode.
You guys are so encouraging.
I was a 10K runner when Istarted.
Now I've gotten all this way,through several marathons and a
dopey going for dopey.
Number two Could not have doneit without your knowledge and

(01:14:07):
your encouragement.
You guys are so kind.
I back of the pack runner andyou just make me feel so great
and like I can do anything.
I'm so happy for you.
Congratulations, Happy running.

Speaker 18 (01:14:17):
Hey, it's Chrissy from Bedford, Pennsylvania, and
I'm super excited about your200th episode.
Just wanted to tell you guyshow great this podcast has been,
and my fondest memory isrunning my first marathon in
Philadelphia and seeing Rise andRun friends for the first time
cheering me on and giving mehugs along the way, and I've

(01:14:40):
just really enjoyed listening toyour podcast on my long run and
forward to many more episodes.

Speaker 27 (01:14:47):
Hey friends, it's Debbie from North Carolina Just
wanted to come on to say that Iam so grateful for the Rise and
Run family because through thisfamily I've met others with
similar interests I would havenever gotten to meet otherwise
and I am so glad to have thesefriends from across the country
in my life.
And the hosts are fantastic andreally set the tone of
acceptance and community for thegroup.

(01:15:08):
And I want to encourageeveryone to go to Race Weekend
meetups because I've had so muchfun meeting the hosts at Race
Weekend.
One weekend we were talking toChris Twiggs and we heard Lexi's
voice and that's how we met andidentified Lexi was by her
voice and that was so much fun.
And the podcast keeps mecompany on my run.
So congratulations y'all onepisode number 200, and keep

(01:15:31):
rising and running.

Speaker 16 (01:15:33):
Hello, this is Denise Scott Eisenhower and I'm
in Hickory, North Carolina, andI just wanted to leave a memory
for your 200th episode.
I have discovered Rise and Runaround a year and a half two
years ago on a Run DisneyFacebook page, and it just so

(01:15:55):
happened that they were talkingabout Jeff Galloway being on
your podcast, and so the nexttime I looked up Rise and Run,
Jeff Galloway was your guest.
So I not only found a greatpodcast, but that started my
Jeff Galloway running journey.

(01:16:16):
Happy running y'all.
Thanks a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Well, there you go, friends.
That's the first of our seriesof episode 200 messages that you
sent to us, and thank you somuch for those to us and thank
you so much for those.
You're going to be hearing theminterspersed throughout the
podcast and they're great.
They helped all of us go downmemory lane.
Thank you so much for that.

(01:16:40):
We, as always, we're gratefulto you for doing that.
Friends, we're going to spend alot of time this evening.
The gang is talking about thefirst couple hundred episodes of
the podcast and what it meansto us, and we'll get into it.
But one of the things I want tojump into right now, one of the

(01:17:01):
things that is just extremelyspecial to me, is the
friendships we've made, and thefact that I get to call Jeff
Galloway my friend isastonishing.
What a wonderful person he is,what a great person to know,
what an asset to all of us.
I've had a chance to visit withJeff on numerous occasions.

(01:17:26):
The last time I had a chance totalk with him one-on-one, I
shared something with him that Iwill share with you now.
You know, my father passed awayseven years ago.
He lived to be almost 90.
But I sincerely believe thatsince I lost my dad, the most

(01:17:50):
influential male role model inmy life is Jeff.
I mean, not only have I learnedthings about running from Jeff,
but a whole lot of what goesinto this podcast comes just
from knowing Jeff Galloway andhis approach to his runners and
his approach to life, and it'sbeen fantastic.

(01:18:15):
So let's, guys, let's chat fora minute.
Let me throw out some numbers200 episodes, a little less than
four years.
We come up on our fourthanniversary on October 22nd,
which is significant becauseit's also my 48th wedding
anniversary, A date that youshould never ever forget in your

(01:18:35):
lifetime.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
Yes, If not, you're sleeping on the couch that night
.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Well, here is why I will never forget our wedding
anniversary date.
Becky and I got married ininterior Alaska.
There was nothing there,nothing.
We had to drive to Fairbanks torent tuxedos.
Becky got her wedding dressthrough probably through the

(01:19:01):
Sears catalog probably but therewas no printers in town.
So I hand wrote a hundredwedding invitations.
You are invited to the weddingof the on the 22nd of October
1977.
I haven't forgotten it and I'mnot likely to forget the fact

(01:19:24):
that this first episode droppedthe 22nd was just coincidence.
We didn't record it on the 22nd, but that's coming up.
That's four years.
In that time the Rise and Runpodcast has been downloaded
454,000 times.

(01:19:44):
We're approaching half amillion.
We should get to it aroundThanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
Hey, just in time for the Thanksgiving episode.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
That's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Jack.

Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Yeah, hey, friends, if you want to help us, just
recommend us to one of yourfriends.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Or download the episode on every single device
that you own.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
That would really help but you got to play it in
order for the download to count.
I tried to look this up withthe Facebook history.
At least the Facebook history Icould find doesn't go back far
enough.
But the Facebook group now has5200 and some odd members in it.

(01:20:34):
I don't know where it was thatepisode 100.
I would certainly less thanhalf of that, maybe 1,500 or so.
So that's grown.
We've been downloaded in 127countries.

Speaker 7 (01:20:48):
How many countries are there in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Well, that's actually .
Someone asked me that questionnot long ago and it's actually
an interesting question becauseyou can find four or five
different answers Really.
Yeah, Like, if you look at thenumber of people in the not
number of people number ofcountries in the United Nations
and then compare that to thenumber of countries that are

(01:21:10):
registered with FIFA, theInternational Soccer Football
Association, there are morecountries in FIFA than there are
in the United Nations, but thebest ballpark number is about
200.
Right around 200.
Different things get counteddifferent ways.
You got little islands that getcounted as territories and
sometimes they get counted ascountries.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
So, jack, your homework for next week is to
learn how to say the Mandalorianin each one of those different
languages.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
You give me a challenge.
You never know.
It might take me a decade, butI can get there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
But 127 countries Now , obviously US, canada, england,
netherlands, mexico.
Those are towards.
That's off the top of my head,those are towards the top of the
list.
And there are several countrieswe have only been downloaded
once for all, I know was bymistake, but and we've got
soldiers throughout the worldtoo, who will download episodes

(01:22:09):
in in foreign countries.
According to listennotescom,which is a fairly well-known
source for podcast data, theRise and Run podcast is one of
the top 1% most popular shows ofall the podcasts in the country
in the world the podcasts inthe country in the world.

(01:22:35):
Now, before you guys get a bighead on that, okay, they list
about 3.6 million podcasts thatthey consider in their database,
so that puts us in the top36,000.
That's okay.

Speaker 7 (01:22:48):
It's really good, still, still a bunch of those
3.6 million probably.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
They don't publish regularly anymore.
They were counted, don't count.
But all that being said, jasonkelsey, we're coming for you
yeah, we're not, but I did lookup some others and I couldn't
find any others that I well.
Top 1% is pretty good.

(01:23:14):
I'll leave it there.
Top 1% is pretty darn good, sowe're proud of that.
Before we get a little further,I want to thank some people who
do a lot of behind the sceneswork for us in these 200
episodes.
Let's start with the ladies whoworked our logo for us, and
that's quite a while ago Devinand Carrie.

(01:23:35):
You know them.
You know them from the t-shirts, from.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Zippity.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Tees.
Thank you, it escaped me for aminute.
Lovely people, but they've beena big help.
Our friend, Rob does somethingyou probably even the folks here
I'm talking to probably don'trecognize.
Rob helps me a lot with therace report.
Rob will go into the Facebookgroup file.
If somebody has a race that'supcoming he'll go ahead and put

(01:24:03):
it into the file for me andthat's very helpful.
I get some of them, but a lotof times I'll look in there and
Rob's already done them and Iappreciate it.
You know, Mark, Mark shows upevery Christmas to sing for us
before not every Christmas,that's about it, it's before
every dopey to sing for us.
But Mark, you see Mark everyweek.
He does those great job on thetraining schedules and posing

(01:24:26):
those thoughtful questionsschedules and posing those
thoughtful questions whichstimulate discussion.
Mark's been with us for a whileand Judy.
Judy's been with us for oh,hasn't been that long, but
Judy's took up the mantle fromAllie and is distributing our
merchandise and she does a heckof a job.
She gets stuff out in a hurry.

(01:24:49):
I think judy does everything ina hurry.
But uh, I wanted.
I wanted to thank those folksand at least give them some
recognition on this episode.
Well, talking about growth andlisteners, let's uh, let's
listen to a couple more messagesfrom our friends hey, all this
is doug in brooklyn, new York.

Speaker 12 (01:25:10):
I want to wish you a happy 200th episode.
That's an amazingaccomplishment.
But most of all, I want tothank you for creating just this
awesome, loving, wonderful,supportive community.
I've made so many good friendsand my best memory of being
involved with Rise and Run andthe community is coming down to
a race weekend and not havingany family come with me and just

(01:25:32):
basically sight unseen, beingadopted essentially by Kara and
Rachel and many others too manyto name and having too many
dining reservations.
And so much fun, eating lots offood and laughing and waking up
early with everyone being inthe parking lot and now looking

(01:25:54):
forward to every race weekendand spending time with those
wonderful people and all of thepeople in this community.
So thank you for creatingsomething wonderful out of
nothing.
Love it.

Speaker 28 (01:26:05):
Hey y'all.
This is Emily from Baton Rougewishing the Rise and Run gang a
happy 200 episodes.
That's 200 episodes ofinspirational stories, race
reports, running advice and justa good time.
I honestly don't think I'd bethe runner I am today without
this podcast and its amazingcommunity.
Through the community, I'velearned so much about how to
train, fuel and recover.
I never would have thought Icould run a marathon without all

(01:26:27):
the support, including theintroduction to Coach Kristen at
RunFit.
Mama, here's to 200 episodesand hopefully 200 more Happy
running friends.

Speaker 20 (01:26:35):
Hey, rise and Run.
This is Erin from Buffalo, newYork.
I've been a listener since theearly days and it has been so
much fun seeing this podcastcontinue to grow in support of
the Run Disney community.
It doesn't matter if you are onTeam hashtag 99 or a hashtag
zero to the hero.
You guys motivate us byproviding tips, laughs and
inspiration to keep us movingduring our long training miles.

(01:26:57):
Congratulations on your 200thepisode.
I can't wait to hear where thenext 200 take you Happy running.

Speaker 29 (01:27:06):
Hey, rise and Run crew.
This is Heidi Drum and I'm outnear Lake Tahoe, california and
Nevada, and I am absolutelyamazed that you are reaching the
milestone of 200 episodes, andI want to just say that the
community that you've created isamazing.

(01:27:27):
I'm so happy to be a part of it.
I love the meetups at the raceweekend, I love the Thursday
Zoom and I love that there areso many of us helping each other
out on this stressful race dayregistration.
Keep up the amazing work andkeep building this amazing
community.
Thank you for everything.

Speaker 9 (01:27:49):
Hello there, rise and Runners.
This is John from beautifulHuntington, west Virginia.
I'm out on a run along thebeautiful Ohio River this
morning.
I hope, whether you're trainingon a run, recovering from a run
, wherever you're at in yourjourney, that you are continuing
on moving forward.
Let me tell you Rise and Runhas been a pivotal part.

(01:28:15):
Let me tell you Rise and Run hasbeen a pivotal part of my
journey running as a journey andtransformation.
As a runner, it's good to know,as Bob says, that we have
friends all around the world.
On those 18-degree Decemberdays when many of us are gearing
up for races and marathonweekend, I want to share with
you a Martin Luther King quotethat keeps me going.
You know when the days getrough, and sometimes they do.

(01:28:35):
If you can't fly, then run.
If you can't run, then walk.
If you can't walk, then crawl.
But whatever you do, you haveto keep moving forward, and
whatever that looks like for you, whether it's a half mile or 30
miles, I hope that you willkeep going.
I'm sure you are an inspiration, an influence, an example to

(01:28:58):
someone.
So keep on finding joy, keep onpursuing excellence in running,
and here's to the next 200episodes of Rise and Run.
Hey, everyone's Emmy.

Speaker 13 (01:29:10):
And Julie from Cincinnati Thanks for all your
support of the Flying Pig andit's great to see everyone this
year and we hope to see evenmore of you next year.
And thanks for your fun,uplifting, positive episodes
that we listen to while we train.
We appreciate you and thank youso much for everything you do

(01:29:31):
for our community.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
You know, friends, as we, as we approach this episode
, as the gang here, we're atabout 185, 190.
We didn't think a whole lotabout it.
200 is coming up.
You want to do anything?
We had planned a lot for 100,but 200, we kind of went ah, you
know, we'll see how it goes.
And, as I've mentioned in otherepisodes, we kind of stumbled in

(01:29:55):
to this at about 195, visitingwith friends from the past, and
it's been fantastic and it'sreally got all of us, I think,
thinking about the magnitude ofas I, as I told my friends as I
came out here this evening, Isaid I'm here for the 198th time

(01:30:17):
at this table getting thisstarted.
I did miss two.
We always get asked thequestion I didn't put it on Did
you ever see this coming, thiscoming?
And we all agree that we knownever saw it coming.
I like let's let's get intothat later, let's think, let's

(01:30:37):
think back, think about a coupleof your favorite moments.
Anything in the first 199 thatyou can think of, that kind of
stands out to you, or thingsthat you remember, maybe some
interviews or maybe some stuffthat hit the cutting room floor.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
I know we talk about it a lot, but when we first had
Brittany on, that one alwayssticks out to me because we were
all nervous for it and withinlike two minutes we all
collectively knew that she wasone of us.
And that moment and that memoryis so special because she's I

(01:31:19):
mean, she's a great friend ofours, um, and it just really
sticks out to me, um, how muchof a family we are, that
somebody that seems so off in anelite status can be just the
same as us and be our friend.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Um yeah, yeah, you nailed it, alicia, I agree 100
two eye-opening episodes for me,stumbled back to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
You know the theme.
You know that we've been doingthe last two months or so of
revisiting with old friends andand the first is jeff in terms
of I'm not specifically talkingabout one particular episode.
You know, maybe you could saythe first time we had him on,

(01:32:07):
but like behind the scenes whenwe you had our planning meetings
, or like when we chat during arecording about you know, how do
we want to plan out the nextcouple of weeks, we all had some
serious doubts in the back ofour head of could we get?
jeff oh yeah like I don't, likewe're like, okay, bob knows I'm

(01:32:28):
the best, like we'll let bob bethe.
You know, the ringleader onthis one to the try and get it,
and I think it's thegraciousness of people that I
think, even 200 episodes later,still continues to really
provide shock and awe to me.

(01:32:49):
And you know, you can even say,you know, like you were saying
alicia about britney, you knowthat was, you know, again we I
don't even think we had 20episodes under our belt by the
time that she said yes and shemade run disney history and was
featuredin runners world magazine for
her accomplishment.
I mean, heck, I can.

(01:33:09):
Going back to Britney, I caneven remember we were in the
middle of that recording and oneof my roommates from college
who has no ties to run Disneywhatsoever he'd sent me an
Instagram message and it was thepost that Runner's World had
put out highlighting Britney'saccomplishment and their

(01:33:30):
upcoming interview with her.
And he was the post thatrunners world had put out
highlighting Brittany'saccomplishment and their
upcoming interview with her.
And he was like did you seethis?
And I'm like dude, I'm talkingto her right now.
Like no joke.
So you know, like so the factthat you know we got Brittany
and we got Jeff.
You know there are people whowe were pretty sure we'd be able

(01:33:52):
to get you know to come on you,whether that be coach twigs or,
you know friends who you knowbecame part of our council of
costumes and such like that butthen there's other people like
like take martina sevens, forexample.
You know a, a big name in therunning space and is, you know,
has agreed, you know to, to comeon the podcast not once, but

(01:34:14):
twice, right.
Or the fact that in a couple ofweeks, you know spoiler alert,
here we're getting meb, we'retalking to meb what like yeah,
like that, like the.
So the fact that people continueto say yes to us has been
really awesome.
And then the other eye-openingpoint in this whole journey is

(01:34:37):
and again goes back to someonewho we just had on a couple of
weeks ago and that's the BalloonLadies.
The OG episode of when we hadthe balloon ladies on episode 51
is our most downloaded episodein the span of rise and run and

(01:35:00):
it has like a 500 download leadon like what is our second most
popular episode.
Second most popular episode,and I credit that episode with
what has created the growth ofrun disney, because there was,
you know, there was such astigma whether it it be a

(01:35:20):
positive one or negative onearound the balloon ladies that
the number of people, whetherthey knew about us or were
following our facebook page orfollowing us on Instagram, would
always send out that link.
No, you got to listen to thisbecause they're going to give
you the true story about theBalloon Ladies, and that's why
I'll always be extremelygrateful to those women, because

(01:35:43):
if we never have done thatepisode, I'm not sure Our family
was sizable at the time, but Icouldn't imagine how much
smaller it would have been if wewould have never even chatted
with them.

Speaker 10 (01:35:54):
You could be right.
You mentioned talking to peoplelike Brittany and Mr Galloway,
and the other part that blows mymind is that whenever I see
them, whenever I saw them on thecourse, they were excited to
see us and I was like that is socool, because you shouldn't

(01:36:18):
really even remember who I am.
I'm always surprised.
I'm also always surprised by meand Greg have had this
experience.
I mean, it wasn't me, it wasGreg, but someone would
recognize his voice while wewere talking on the course or
whatever, and they'd be like areyou Greg from the Rise and Run

(01:36:39):
podcast?
And he's like, yes, I am.
And then, and then they're like, oh, are you Lexi?

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
And I'm like Allie, you reminded me of one of my
favorite on the course storiesbecause you were there with me.
We were in the crowd together,we saw it was it was dopey
weekend, because it must havebeen the marathon, because we
saw Brittany at the start,remember, yep.

(01:37:05):
And then I did what I do most.
Most times we run down MainStreet.
I've told this story before.
I will go to the crowd at somepoint and say something along
the lines like strangers whoI've never met before and we'll
never meet again, I love all ofyou.
You make this special.
And I did that and I looked inthe crowd and I gave my speech

(01:37:30):
and I said and especially youover there, brittany was
standing over there yeah thatwas fun.

Speaker 7 (01:37:39):
I just remember, like the meetings up until we even
just started the first episode.
We were just so excited andgiddy we're like, oh, it won't
last long.
I mean, how much is there totalk about?
Run disney for like over 100episodes and jokes on us?
Um, but I actually I I listenedto some of our first few

(01:38:00):
episodes like a few weeks ago,and I love that we have the same
excitement now as we did backthen that that's a good point,
Jack.
And there's just so much lovefor the community and to think
that, oh, you know, maybe fiveor ten people might listen, or,

(01:38:24):
like our first meetup, I wasreally nervous.
I was like I don't know ifanybody's going to come.
Not that we're not cool oranything, but I don't know, I
don't know, anything aboutpodcasts I mean, I don't even
know if I really I didn't startlistening to much podcasts too
much before we started doingthis one.
Um, I remember there was onlyone.
I I remember researching to seeif there was any run disney

(01:38:45):
podcasts out there way before westarted this and I only found
one and it was a very small one.
She and then she like had likefive ten minute episodes and
they were just moreinformational, like hey, this is
where you go for the bus stops,here's the transportation.
It was very simple but I lovedrunning to it, but then she just
stopped oh, that's, and it wasjust one person.

Speaker 10 (01:39:07):
She stopped.
You know, I like always thinkabout making it when, when we
were making the podcast, I'd belike what is the podcast I would
have wanted to listen to when Istarted doing Run Disney, or
while I was doing Run Disney,and I think about that.
That's so like what goes on inmy brain sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
That is exactly what this is.
This is the one I wanted tolisten to right, totally you
know.

Speaker 7 (01:39:30):
What's crazy, though, is after 200 episodes, you
still think I figure out.
How.
How do you do my audio like myfirst one, like the first, like
I think 20 or 30 they were.
Just I'm sorry I want topublicly apologize for my audio
and just I honestly thought Iwas like, oh, hold on, can we?

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
talk about the evolution of your audio issues,
though.
Well, I'm still working on it,so so first I was like, oh Jack,
hold on, hold on Jack, can wetalk about the evolution of your
audio?

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
issues, though.
Well, I'm still working on it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
So, first of all, it was no microphone.
Yeah.
Then she finally got themicrophone.
Folks.
I'm not kidding you.
This woman recorded I don'tknow how many episodes with her
microphone, facing the wrong wayso we were hearing great audio
of everything that was happeningbehind jack, just not what was

(01:40:16):
coming out of her mouth yeah,there's.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
There's also been a few times where I I know it was
right before we startedrecording.
I'll be like you guys I don'tunderstand why my audio is not
working and then we just recordbecause I would turn up my
volume and it turns out I neverplugged in my mic my mic was off
for at least a few episodesthere and they were recent, you
guys.

Speaker 10 (01:40:37):
We're all doing our best.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Jack, I talked about cutting room floor stuff.
Allie suggested one time thatwe gather it all up and start a
new podcast called Stuff.
That Jack Says oh, she didn'tsay stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:40:51):
It's a niche variety yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
There's always something, the Mandalorian being
the best of the best.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Oh shucks.
So one of my favorite messagesto reach out to somebody to see
if they would want to be on thepodcast was a very specific
pirate if they would want to beon the podcast was a very
specific pirate and I took like30, 45 minutes crafting the most
perfect message in pirateslanguage.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
You can say who it is .
It doesn't hurt anything.

Speaker 7 (01:41:23):
Okay, it was Jogging, jack Sparrow, and I'm like I
don't know if we'll ever respond.
But ye be Jack here, who's alsoa pirate.
I'm a pirate captain as well.
Captain Jack and I go in thewaters of Universal and I don't
remember.
I have to look at the specificmessage, but I remember it took
me like 30, 40,000 minutes tocraft it.
He actually responded.

(01:41:44):
He did.
He wasn't able to go.
Obviously come on.
But I was so proud of myself toeven with that message gosh
captain jack universal would bevery proud of that so jack, if
you are listening, because we,we know you, you like to live,

(01:42:05):
captain.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Captain, don't offend him, yeah correct.

Speaker 5 (01:42:10):
If you're out, the offer is still on the table my
friend.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
Yeah, we'd love to have him anytime.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
To Captain Jack.
I met you one time, captainJack.
You were wonderful to chat withon the course, and you'd be
ready for another conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
We haven't seen him for a little while.

Speaker 7 (01:42:29):
Yeah, I know, I'm sad .

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
But he was always very accommodating for folks and
photos and all that oh, he'swonderful.
He was a disney icon part ofrun disney sure was.

Speaker 30 (01:42:41):
Let's hear from a couple more friends hi friends,
this is k from florida saying ahuge congrats on your 200th
episode, which sounds to me likea celebration where Greg rides
200 times on the magic carpetride and Alicia provides 200
free margaritas.

(01:43:02):
Cheers to the next 200,.
Guys Love y'all.

Speaker 23 (01:43:07):
Hi folks, this is Kelly McCubbin, your friend from
California and the only personthat makes Bob look short.
I started listening to yourshow as I was training for my
first marathon, 2024, at DisneyWorld.
I'm not exaggerating when I saythat I wouldn't have completed
it without what I learned fromRise and Run.
I'm so grateful for you all.
I'm thinking about doing myfirst dopey for my 60th birthday

(01:43:29):
in 2027.
If I do it, I know Rise and Runhas got my back.
Happy 200 episodes.
This is Kevin and Jessica fromTexas.

Speaker 20 (01:43:38):
We would like to salute all podcasts, but mostly
the Rise and Run podcast on ourmonumental 200th episode.
We have a glorious 200-hourtribute planned.
You've got 10 seconds.

Speaker 24 (01:43:50):
Oh well, congratulations, friends on a
fantastic 200 episodes.
Tribute planned.
You got 10 seconds.
Oh well, congratulations,friends on a fantastic 200
episodes.
Happy running.

Speaker 6 (01:43:57):
Howdy friends.
This is Kim from Houston.
I just wanted to saycongratulations on 200 episodes.
It's a very huge accomplishment.
You guys came into my life rightafter I ran my first Run Disney
10K at Wine and Dine 2023.
I was roped into it by a friend.

(01:44:18):
I had never run before and hadactually broken my leg the year
before, and I ran that race andI enjoyed it and I wanted to do
more.
But I also had really closefriends that were by far
advanced in their runningjourney than somebody like me
who had just started.
I don't know how I got so luckyto find you guys, but truly

(01:44:42):
this podcast has kept me risingand running.
It has been wonderful to meetso many outstanding people and
it's been encouraging to learnso much about everybody's
varying walks and runs of life.
Thank you for bringing such anawesome community together.
It has been my privilege to bepart of this family.

(01:45:02):
Thank you and again,congratulations on 200 episodes.
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 31 (01:45:08):
Hi Roger, it's me, sam and Sam's mom still trying
to catch him after he sprints tothe finish, we want to say
congratulations on 200 episodesIn miles.
That's like running the DopeyChallenge four times.

Speaker 30 (01:45:23):
Thanks for all the miles smiles and fun and, as you
always say, happy running.

Speaker 17 (01:45:29):
Hi, this is Lisa, part of your Rise and Run family
in Canada, and I'm calling tolet you know that I have been
listening to this podcast since2021.
And I have learned so muchabout Disney and running and
just all kinds of stuff.
I love the positivity and thecommunity from this group.

(01:45:50):
It's absolutely amazing and Ican't wait to hopefully meet you
guys in person one day.
Thanks for everything and happyrunning.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
All right, thanks guys.
Hey, I thought it might beinteresting, friends, if we tell
the folks who are listeningwhat goes into recording an
episode.
And I don't know, I don't knowwho wants to start this out
tender love and care bob.

Speaker 7 (01:46:17):
Tender love and care.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Tlc on a tuesday night, that's true uh to.

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
To quote one of my favorite movies uh, ghostbusters
.
Uh, as peter vankeman says inthe, uh, the office of the mayor
at city hall, it's dogs andcats living together.
Mass hysteria.

Speaker 10 (01:46:37):
I will say we'll give Bob a lot of credit for it,
because I think that you knowhe spends a lot of time
organizing not only the theepisodes and you know how, what
the format is of the episodesbut also organizing us, because
we are wild, feral children andwe derail the train constantly

(01:46:59):
and he always is the one to kindof whisk us back together.
And.
I can't tell you how much Iappreciate Bob for that, because
I can come in and I can't putit, and I can't even put a
sentence together.
My ADHD is strong and so,having everything bullet pointed
and put together, I know a lotof work goes into it and I know

(01:47:23):
maybe it seems like it's off thecuff, but he definitely puts a
lot of thought and care intoeverything that we do here.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Well, that and since we're waxing poetic about bob
here for a second, I mean theother thing too is on those two
episodes, those two episodesthat bob couldn't make it, where
, uh, where I, I graciously uhstole his login information so I
could act as the quote-unquotehost.
Uh, let me tell you, doing thepreparation for the race report

(01:47:53):
is a daunting, daunting task,yeah, and I cannot thank you
enough for the time and theeffort that you put into that,
because you know, every time youthink you're at the end there's
another one there, another onethere, and even though it's like

(01:48:14):
, okay, let me get back to this,but the race report is a
constant reminder to me about,number one, how large our
community is.
Number two, how involved theyare.
Number three, how proud theyare of their accomplishments.
And and then, finally, how muchthey want to share their

(01:48:35):
journey and support the journeyof others in the community.
So sure, you know, granted,folks not going to sugarcoat
this, you know there are sometimes where, like we're sitting
here at like 10, 55 PM Eastern,and we still got about, you know
, 10 race reports to go through,and like we all want to go to

(01:48:56):
bed, but at the same time, youall do a wonderful job of
reminding us that you knowthere's a reason why you
continue to put these out andwe're going to continue to, you
know, to give those reports now,grant, maybe we'll become so
large where we can't give asmuch detail, but just know that
we appreciate all the time andeffort that not only you putting

(01:49:17):
in the posting, but Bob for youand organizing them so we can
share them with our friends.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Well, thanks for saying that and I appreciate the
people who do it and I kind ofwish we could give it more time,
but we can't.
But you get a chance to readthem on Facebook and I don't it

(01:49:50):
because I'm retired, I can putthat kind of time into it.
But I start.
Well, I start on.
I guess, when do you want me tostart my week?
I kind of picture my weekstarting on Friday when I do
that Facebook post that sayswho's running this weekend and I
put that up Then, startingSaturday, sunday, monday, even

(01:50:12):
into Tuesday, I'm gathering racereports Sometime in there, and
all of us have helped out inthis.
but sometime in there I'm liningup a guest getting the guests
the information that they needto know to join us coming up
with questions for the guests.
Again, I'm not the only personthat does that, but I've done it
quite a lot.

(01:50:33):
I, by the time I go to bedTuesday night, wednesday I don't
usually do too much, but that'sabout it.
But Wednesday actually we do.
Wednesday is when Greg reallygoes into high gear and boy, the
professional editing job thatmakes this podcast.
That puts us into a differentleague.

(01:50:56):
I'm not going to castaspersions on anybody, but the
editing quality on this podcastis second to none as far as I'm
concerned.

Speaker 10 (01:51:07):
Again, we are like completely out of control
sometimes, and so Greg has toput together all of the things
that need to be put together forus, and it's not an easy task,
that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Yeah, I wanted to say it shouldn't go without
recognition how much that Gregdoes too.
Yes, his job is also to helpand edit recordings, so I can't
imagine going from that in youreveryday job and then doing it
for us.
But we're very, very gratefulfor what you do and I know our
listeners are grateful for whatyou do.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Well, thank you, gang .
I will say, editing a podcastabout Run Disney is a hell of a
lot more fun than editing apodcast about run disney.
Uh is a hell of a lot more funthan uh editing a podcast about
retinal diseases so come on soit definitely is a labor.
Love both rds there you go,that's so good I mean, I mean

(01:52:07):
probably really the onlycrossover I've ever had is when
we talked to our VIP, kayla,because it's probably the only
time we ever talked about eyediseases and run Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
So, kayla, that's why you always hold a special place
in my heart, the treadmillqueen, yeah, and the other thing
is I said Wednesday is a dayoff, but it's not, because
Wednesday night John and I willget a message from Greg that
says we are processing and thenJohn goes into creating the
graphics that we use to promotethe episode, and life has gotten

(01:52:43):
a little easier.
And again, no secrets we use AIto do a lot of our summaries.
Now, when we first startedusing that, it was not great.
I remember there were a couplewhere I just didn't use it at
all.
But instead of having come upwith a summary on my own, now we
start with AI and it takes alittle tweaking, so that
certainly helps.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Although AI still has not figured out, though, that
Run Disney is spelled without aspace and has a capital d in it,
but eventually it will getthere it might, I don't know
it's.
It's kind of miraculous how fastthey can come up with a summary
yeah, I know it's wild and it'sespecially helpful on those

(01:53:24):
nights where I'm editing verylate and we need to push it out
and they're like like I don'treally.
You know, back in the oldendays, you know, I remember Bob
and John would go to bed and I'dbe like okay now I've just
spent four hours editing thisthing.
Now I have to come up here andcome up with a small book report
on what this episode is about.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
We do the episode summaries.
It goes up on Buzzsprout andit's available on Spotify and
Apple.
I'd be surprised.
I don't know how many peopleread the episode summaries.
But we also pop them ontoFacebook and Alicia helps us
popping them onto Instagram, andso they just give an idea
what's going on.

(01:54:07):
But yeah, I was thinking I takeWednesday.
I don't really take Wednesday.
Greg does the hard workWednesday, but we work Wednesday
nights together and then Idon't do much on Thursdays.
I usually listen to the episodeon Thursday.
You guys listen to the episodeWell you're doing the Zoom.
Yeah, oh, we do the Zooms onThursdays.
That's you talk about labor oflove, man, I look forward to

(01:54:28):
that.
I've listened to every episode.
I think, boy, I really had fun.
I was listening to the 199, andI was laughing my tail off
listening to it again, justlistening to.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
That Bob is so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
I guess you're right now that I think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
That Bob fellow, he's really going places.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
There's somebody else who I don't think we've dropped
this name yet tonight Alan andGrace.
Oh yeah.
Friends that we wouldn't haveotherwise.
I'm going to stop mentioningfriends we wouldn't have
otherwise, because I've gotabout 5,200 names I'd have to
list off friends we wouldn'thave otherwise because I've got
about 5,200 names I'd have tolist off.
But yeah, I just enjoy talkingwith the two of them.

(01:55:16):
And when Alan and I get totalking, you know it's inside
old guy stuff, you know, so weget to laugh at things you kids
wouldn't understand.
It's all good, let's hear froma couple more friends.

Speaker 6 (01:55:29):
Hey friends, this is Michelle from Erie, pa.
Just wanted to let everyoneknow that one of my favorite
memories of the Rise and Runpodcast was making it to my very
first meetup.
I had an absolute blast.
I got to meet tons of newpeople and we just had an
absolute great time.
I can't wait to meet everybodyagain at the Rise and Run meetup

(01:55:51):
for Wine and Dine.
I hope to have some morefriendship bracelets for
everybody, and one of myfavorite Rise and Run moments
was very recently when they toldus that the Rise and Run
episode was hosted by Depends.
I was out on a run when I heardthat and I openly started
laughing out loud.
Happy running, keep everyonesmiling, keep everyone laughing.

(01:56:12):
Thanks.

Speaker 29 (01:56:14):
Hey, rise and Run, friends.
This is Monica, and fromHarmony Flora.
We wanted to saycongratulations on your 200th
episode.
Thank you for all the love,laughs, stories and advice over
the years.
Cheers to the next 200.

Speaker 22 (01:56:38):
Hey gang, this is Nona from South Carolina.
I'm calling in to say congratson the upcoming episode
celebration.
My favorite episodes are alwaysthe March Madness ones.
Really wish we could get somestarted in the fall as well.
Those are awesome.
Love all of you guys.
You are fantastic on my longruns to listen to Happy running.

Speaker 24 (01:57:02):
Hey everybody.
It's Rob, from New Jersey.
Wanted to wish everyone a on awonderful 200th episode, to
thank you for the years ofentertainment and enthusiasm and
support and for being therunning team that I didn't know
I needed have a great one.
Here's to another 200 episodes,all the best.

Speaker 8 (01:57:26):
Hey guys it's Rob from Fort Myers with my dogs
Beckham and Ash, and I'm callingto celebrate the 200th episode
of the Rise and Run podcast andto say how thankful I am to have
discovered you all, to met allof you, not just the host but
the community as well, and Ilook forward to seeing you all

(01:57:46):
again very soon, hopefully atwine and dine you all again very
soon, hopefully at one and nine.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
Well, there, we've heard from some more friends,
and that segues into what I'dlike to talk about now, which to
me, is golly the essence of therise and run podcast, and
that's the rise and run podcastfamily.
How do you think I mean whenpeople say did you ever expect
what happened to happen?
This is the part.

(01:58:14):
The family is the part that Icouldn't have imagined.
Could I have imagined ustalking for a couple hundred
episodes?
Yeah, I could have imaginedthat, but the way the family has
grown, gosh, that means more tome than I will ever be able to

(01:58:37):
express.
But let's give it a try.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
Yeah, bob, I think about how it first started with
the Facebook group and I knewthat we had a community, knew
that we had a community.
But when you asked if I wouldlike to be part of this podcast
thing, I thought to myself, well, I don't listen to podcasts, I
don't really know what a podcastis, but I guess let's try it.

(01:59:05):
And I was like, well, it willbe a fun little hobby for a
little bit.
I didn't think it was going tolast very long.
And then the community startedand we were growing and we're
meeting people and theconnections and the family grew.
And I know we've heard fromsome of our friends talking
about the lifelong friends thatthey've made because of this

(01:59:26):
community.
And honestly, when I waslistening to the recordings that
you all put out there, I wascrying because it's really
touching how connected we areand when we talk about family,
like we truly are.
So the answer is no.
I never thought it would bethis, but if I had to guess,

(01:59:49):
it's even better than I couldhave imagined.

Speaker 10 (01:59:51):
But if I had, to guess it's even better than I
could have imagined.
I feel very similarly and I'mtrying to choke back some tears
because I want to say all ofthese stories about people who
I've met through Run Disney.
But I know I would leave peopleout because I'm just flooded

(02:00:11):
every single day like I thinkabout.
I think about somebody in therun Disney family every single
day.
It's not like a once in a whileI'll think about, it's like
literally every single day and Ican't.
I just everything reminds me ofmy friends, like these are just
hundreds and hundreds offriends that we've made and I

(02:00:33):
know that I'm going to stayfriends with them.
Even if I stopped running, Istill would stay friends with
them.

Speaker 7 (02:00:38):
You know, yeah, this community is a forever family,
for sure.
Um, I just want to first off, Iwant to say thank you so much
to this community because forsomeone so I know I sound very
extroverted, obviously whenwe're recording, but it's really
easy to be when you only seelike five, six faces.

(02:01:01):
You know what I mean.
It's people you see all thetime and I am very much an
introvert or Lexi calls it anintroverted extrovert and I
truly believe if I never got tobe one of the hosts I don't know
I have a hard time puttingmyself out there trying to speak

(02:01:23):
to somebody because I getnervous and I don't know what to
say and I end up psychingmyself out and then I probably
won't say anything.
But you know, and I just want tosay thank you to this community
because it's opened me up to somany different friendships and
relationships and family members, and to someone who has, at

(02:01:46):
times, social anxiety.
I'm not going to lie, whenthere's one like sometimes, when
it's like big groups, I do getanxiety, but it's so helpful
when someone comes up to you andstarts talking to you because
that just relaxes me and be likeyeah, I'm with family, I'm with
friends and that is such a hugeblessing to have and really I

(02:02:07):
want to say thank you to.
I think it was Alicia whosuggested my name.
Was it you who suggested myname to be one of the hosts?
Yes, bob.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Well, yeah, we kind of came together out of those
early Zoom meetings, Jack.
Yeah, because I met you guys.
You were an active person inthe early Zoom meetings.

Speaker 7 (02:02:29):
Yeah, and I just want to say thank you to you guys
because you guys let me be apart of this family, and this is
a lifetime family.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Yeah, I'm putting a lot of miles on the car going
back and forth to Disney Becausethat at Interstate 4 is a
little better and it is a littlebetter.
People are saying, hey, I'mgoing to be over, can you come
visit, and I cannot make themall, I can't, but I was there
yesterday.
So, yeah, it's fun and I'll bethere.

(02:03:04):
Becky and I and Becky's beencoming too We'll be there next
week and then we'll be therelater in August.
So so I got that going too.

Speaker 10 (02:03:12):
I was thinking about the early um meetups that we
had and how I have.
I'm also an introvert and I'velearned how to talk to people
because you have to live in theworld Right, so I had a couple
of things that I would say, youknow, when I was talking to
people where are you from?

(02:03:33):
What race are you doing?
What are you most excited about?
What have you seen so far, likeall these things that are just,
you know, questions to openpeople up to talking to us.
And.
I would go to the next person.
Hey, where, where are you from?
What do you?
What race are you doing?
What have you seen?
So for the next person.

(02:03:53):
and now we go to the meetups andit's just like instant inside
jokes, coming up, running up topeople, hugs, like we'll pick
each other up and like spin incircles like it's just this
different thing now, where weare like just good friends and
if someone's new, we don't haveto, we don't have to like go
through those like awkwardthings again.

(02:04:15):
Now we're just like hey, youknow, you're part of our family
immediately and like, what's up,this is so and so this is-so,
this is so-and-so.
Like these are all the peoplethat we and like they all join
in the conversation and it'sjust like I don't know, it just
feels like a big party.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
Thanks, sally, and thanks for saying that, because
I wanted to point that out toour friends who are listening.
Half of them are going oh yeah,I know what you're talking
about and the other half haven'tdone this yet.
But please avail yourself of it, you.

Speaker 5 (02:04:43):
we promise you won't regret it I have had a lifelong
goal of mine.
You know, if I had to likestart all over in life and, you
know, come up with a new career,one of the the things that I
always wanted to pursue,especially when I was in high
school, is in school, I wasinvolved in a lot of student

(02:05:05):
leadership organizations and Igot to experience a lot of
motivational speakers, and therewas always a part of me that
was like God, I want to be ableto do that.
I want to be able to inspirepositive change into people's
lives on a daily basis.

(02:05:27):
But the thing that I alwaysreminded myself was that that
wasn't going to be possible forme, because whenever I would
hear these stories, when I wouldgo to these conferences, it
would all come back to sometraumatic event in that person's
life or winning a gold medal,all these things that that you

(02:05:49):
know little high school, greg.
OK, I wasn't that little, butyou know, you know wouldn't,
wouldn't really be able to, toachieve in life.
And then Rise and Run camealong.
and then rise and run came alongand you know sure we all had

(02:06:10):
our, our own doubts of you knowwho outside of our immediate
family members were going tolisten to this right, but I, my
life, is fulfilled each andevery single day when you hear
the audio messages, when youread the posts on Facebook, when
you send us an Instagrammessage or a Facebook message,

(02:06:35):
or you give up time of yourvacation at probably one of the
most expensive vacationdestinations in the world and
you people are willing to giveup precious moments of your time
when you could be riding BigThunder Mountain, but instead

(02:06:56):
you're standing out gettingfried by the sun in the food
truck area of Disney Springsbecause you want to participate
and support this community, andthat just makes me forever
grateful and I'm fulfilled nowbecause I was part of something

(02:07:21):
that helped instill that.
And so, you know, I wish I couldgo back in my Mandalorian and
talk to you know, 17 year oldGreg, and be like listen, pal,
in 21 years you're going to getyour chance and I think what you
know, what keeps me going, evenafter 200 episodes, is sure.

(02:07:48):
We have made tons of friends ofall varying levels, people that
you think about every singleday or people that you're so
excited to see during aparticular race weekend, during
a particular race weekend, and Ifeel like you could.
From a community standpoint.
I feel like you could reallyrest your laurels on that and be

(02:08:10):
like, okay, well, you know, wehave almost half a million
downloads, 200 episodes and wecould just airmail it in.
But I know I'm not going to bedoing that, nor are any of my
amazing co-hosts going to dothat, because there's still that
new run Disney runner or heck,there's still even that runner

(02:08:30):
or that person who is walkingand thinking to themselves I
want to run, or I want to beable to run a Disney who has not
heard of this community yet,and we owe it to that person to
be able to support them and givethem that warm virtual hug and

(02:08:53):
those virtual cheers each andevery single day, and that
excites me and I'm just so darngrateful for that each and every
single day.
You took the words right out ofmy mouth.
I literally think about someaspect of the Rise and Run
community every single day,whether that's a conversation

(02:09:15):
that we all internally havewithin our chats or, oh, there's
another Instagram story of tonywith a shirt off like I, I have
, I, I have, you know, theseconstant daily reminders of you
know, an important sport andimportant people in my life and
their fond memories too exactly,and and the fact that I have

(02:09:37):
you know to to make like aninside out reference the fact
that we have like a long-termmemory of wonderful memories,
but again, the really excitingpart is that we're going to
continue to make them, andthat's equally as exciting, and
again, I'm just forever gratefulfor each and every single one
of you.

Speaker 10 (02:09:54):
So core memories.

Speaker 5 (02:09:55):
Yes, core memories for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:09:58):
Caution runners.
Thanks, rodney.
Caution runners.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
Thanks, rodney.
Friends, I want to ask you fora memorable and I'm going to
call them caught in the wildreflection.
Have you been recognizedoutside of a run Disney event?
And I'd like to hear that storyevent, and I'd like to hear

(02:10:27):
that story.
And if not, what's yourfavorite recollection of being
recognized at a?

Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
run disney event.
Well, one just happened to me,maybe a couple of weeks ago it
was early june, I know it was.

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
I know where you going.

Speaker 5 (02:10:40):
I got recognized in my local grocery store.

Speaker 7 (02:10:43):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:10:45):
And I.

Speaker 10 (02:10:46):
In what section?

Speaker 5 (02:10:48):
Okay, so here's the funny story about that.
I was actually in the alcoholsection.

Speaker 10 (02:10:55):
You big drinker, you .

Speaker 5 (02:10:58):
And see, and that was the thing is I was trying.
I spent an extended amount oftime in there because I was
looking for, I wanted to ventureinto the idea of non-alcoholic,
either beers or, like cannedcocktails or something like that
.
So of course, you know there'sonly a very small section of
them.
Yeah, and you know, I was tryingto find it and I remember I

(02:11:21):
think I was wearing like apolynesian resort t-shirt and
then all of a sudden I hear gregand I turn around and I'm, and
I was like this can't behappening, like I'm, I'm, you
know, 2500 miles away from waltdisney world right now, what,
what is going on, and of course,the whole time it's going

(02:11:42):
through my, my head is okay.
Does this person think that I'mcool because I'm in the alcohol
section?
Or boy, he spent a lot of timein this section.
Maybe he has a problem andshould get help.
But, um, so yeah, so that wasprobably the most unique

(02:12:03):
situation Now, the funniest oneI know.
We try not to, you know,especially on an episode like
this, we try not to mentionnames too much, but this one
goes specifically out to DavidBennett.
This was marathon weekend of 20.
It would have been 22 because wehad just started the podcast

(02:12:24):
and I remember we were walkingto get in line for the People
Mover and him and his wife Gretawere in line and as we're
zigzagging, david sees me and he, like jumped the line and I'm
surprised he didn't trip overthe chain link fence that you
know that was there and he wasso excited to come up and

(02:12:48):
introduce and say hi.
And you know we just startedhaving this conversation.
I feel like I had seen David onthe Zoom call but we had never
met in person, in person, and atthat point I I told my wife and
daughter I was like you know,just just go ahead, I'll, I'll
catch up after I'm done talkingto this fine young gentleman.

(02:13:09):
And I remember catching back upto mary and riley and they just
looked me dead in the eye andthey were like, well, how's it
going, mr d minus celebrity, andthey would not stop harassing
me the entire rest of the trip.
So for that particular instance, david, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
The interesting asterisk to your story about the
fellow in the supermarket islike two weeks later I'm at
Blizzard Beach.
It's not a race weekend.
I'm at Blizzard Beach, I'm inmy swimming shorts and this
fellow says to me Bob, yeah,nice to meet you.
He said I met Greg last week atthe supermarket.
And golly, greg, I can'tremember his name.

(02:13:48):
Odds are very good that he'slistening.
I feel bad.
I do feel bad because he was sonice of him, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:13:58):
I've had only a couple of times where somebody
has recognized me.
The first one I was at an event.
That's at Swan and DolphinHotel and it was actually Jack
and Lexi's friend, cindy.
She was checking me in for theevent and she was like are you
Alicia from the Rise Aroundpodcast?
I said yes, I am.
It was the first time thatanybody had ever recognized me

(02:14:20):
in my voice, so that was reallyspecial.
And then I've had a coupleduring race weekends.
One I was waiting to get intoBrown Derby Lounge and a young
lady had come up to me andrecognized me.
And then another one happenedmarathon weekend.
One of our listeners was on thesame bus as me and overheard me

(02:14:41):
talking and recognized my voice.
And then, after we got off thebus, she was like Alicia.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
So that was fun, it is fun, it is fun.

Speaker 7 (02:14:49):
My few surprise ones was when I was a boat captain at
Universal.
Oh yeah, People come up to meand be like Jack hi.

Speaker 3 (02:14:58):
I understand that.

Speaker 7 (02:15:00):
So that was always exciting.
There was more often than not,there was a few times it wasn't
even during a race weekend.
And then um, because at thetime in 2023, I was working at
um, I was living in orlando,obviously, working at yeah, yeah
, it's at universal, so, like.
And then when it was like therun disney weekend, it was funny
because you'd see people withtheir run disney shirts on at

(02:15:22):
universal and it's like that'stoo funny because, like,
honestly, sometimes the hotelsbe cheaper at universal than
they are at disney so you seethe run disney.
Uh, folks come coming throughand so it was always good seeing
them.
Um, but yeah, I and thenobviously race to run.
Disney weekends are always agreat time, uh, to chat with

(02:15:42):
many people.
I remember one time I was inthe parks with my parents.
It was later in the evening.
We were shopping and someonehad come up to me.
She's like Jack hi, Hi.
I listened to you and like itwas a great conversation and I
really loved that moment.
My mom and dad was like who isthat?

(02:16:04):
And I'm like it's one of ourlisteners, because my mom
listens to us every so often.
David, david would listen to usevery so often as well.
But yeah, it's always specialwhen someone comes up to you and
recognizes your voice.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
It's a huge compliment.
I have two favorite stories.
I'll be quick.
Most unusual place to berecognized in the wild A Bucky's
parking lot in southernKentucky.

Speaker 7 (02:16:31):
Oh, I love that.
That's very specific Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:16:36):
The other one, and this was relatively early.
I'm at home one night and ourneighbor next door a nice fella,
we were good friends About nineo'clock he knocks on the door.
He could tell we were awake.
I got to tell you a story.
I got a friend here.
She happened to be fromKentucky.
Also, that's just coincidence.
I've got a friend I've knownfor a long time.

(02:16:57):
We were out this morning.
We took a four mile walk.
She says to me I've beenlistening to this podcast, this
Rise and Run podcast this guynamed Bob and my buddy next door
, chris, says to her nothing.
He didn't say anything to her.
And then nine o'clock thatnight he came knocking on the
door.
He told me this story.
He said and I said to her yeah,you want to meet him.

(02:17:19):
So we went over and we chattedover there.

Speaker 7 (02:17:22):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
It's fun it's always fun meeting our friends.
It is Whether we've mentionedbefore.
The only thing that embarrassesme is that I will meet a friend
, let's say at the expo, andmaybe it's someone I've met,
been meeting for the first,maybe second time Don't really
know all that well yet and thenI'll meet him again at a meetup

(02:17:46):
and forget that I had seen himat the expo.
All I can say is I see a lot ofpeople during the weekends, so
I hope you can forgive me.

Speaker 10 (02:17:55):
I was wearing a Rise and Run shirt and I went into
the Walgreens near my work andsomebody was like oh, I listened
to that podcast because I'mbecause I'm me and I'm awkward.
I just was like, yep, me too,and then like trying to disguise
my voice a little bit because Ijust I'm like very awkward, no

(02:18:19):
you.

Speaker 5 (02:18:19):
You should have pulled your famous line.
Yeah, I'm Lexi.

Speaker 10 (02:18:22):
Yes, I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
Lexi, no Allie.
I'm surprised you didn't talkabout the formation of the Allie
Fan Club from SpringtimeSurprise a couple of years ago.

Speaker 10 (02:18:32):
That was my, that's my.
Yeah, I was telling.

Speaker 3 (02:18:34):
Becky about that just yesterday.

Speaker 10 (02:18:37):
Oh my gosh, that's one of my favorite, my favorite
things ever, and it was like mybirthday and we were having ice
cream at the.
Boardwalk.
Beaches and Cream.
Someone came up and recognizedBob, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:18:54):
It was you, me, Greg.
Who was it?
There were a bunch of us there.
Was it Casey yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:19:02):
Who was it that recognized Bob?
Can't remember, I don'tremember it's on the tip of my
tongue, um no was it natalie,melanie, melanie, I grant.
I remember we have a jokesamantha, oh yes, natalie,
melanie, natalie, mel.
And came up and said I just Ilove listening to you guys.

(02:19:26):
And then I, you know, do mytypical eeyore thing, which is

(02:19:48):
like yeah, but nobody likes me,and she was like, and she was
like she's like no, you're myfavorite, and so we made up this
thing of that she was.
You know that she was theofficial first member of the
alley fan club and now official,first member president and then
um a couple other people.

Speaker 13 (02:20:08):
Very sweet people have been like I want to be in
the alley fan club too.

Speaker 10 (02:20:12):
It's not really a real thing, but I appreciate it.
We can all be yours togetherit's gonna it's going to rain.
It's going to rain today.
Nobody liked me.

Speaker 7 (02:20:27):
So I totally forgot about this story until now.
But, like one of the this pastyear was one of the run Disney
events.
I actually was it Princess, Idon't remember which one it was.
I had just gone off the planeand everything and I went
straight to the expo and whatnotDid?
I was at the plane or did.

(02:20:47):
Yeah, I had to open the plane,so and and I went to the expo.
I was waiting in line for thebibs.
I had met one of our listeners,had a lovely conversation, and
then, right after, I'm trying tofigure out why is my email and
that's not working, why I can'tget my bib.
I can't get my bib, I can'tshow them what I need to show on

(02:21:09):
my registration or whatever.
And I was talking to her aboutit.
She was so sweet, we took apicture.
I got to do it on her phone andthen she tried sending it to me
and I realized I couldn't getany phone calls, I couldn't get
any messages, I couldn't get anyemails, and it took me like, oh
God, at least five, ten it hadbeen at least five minutes
trying to figure out what wasgoing on with my phone.
And she was so sweet, and thenI realized I had my phone on

(02:21:36):
airplane mode.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 7 (02:21:40):
So we had a good laugh and she's like oh, you did
a jack and I was like yeah, Idid.
I just said that to one of myclients the other day.
I was like you pulled a jack.

Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
Oh that's remarkable.
Oh, that's fun.
Hey, let's hear from some moreof our friends.
Good morning.

Speaker 30 (02:22:04):
Rise and Run gang.
This is Troy and Christina fromSpring Hill, Florida.

Speaker 25 (02:22:08):
Hey, we're just calling to say happy 200th.
You guys are awesome, Keep upthe great work.
We love taking you along on ourlong runs each week and we are
super excited to be booked onthe inaugural Rise and Run
podcast crews.
Hey, happy running and happypodcasting.

Speaker 3 (02:22:25):
Hey this is JJ and Valeria.
Congratulations.
Rise and Run gang on hitting200 episodes.

Speaker 14 (02:22:32):
Thank you for building such a fun and
supportive community.
Here's to the next hundred andmany, many more Happy running.

Speaker 15 (02:22:39):
Hey Rise and Run family.
This is Valerie Marble fromMelbourne, on the space coast of
Florida.
I signed up for my first DopeyChallenge in the summer of 2020
and joined the Hashtag Run Dopeygroup that summer around their
first anniversary.
The first time they were on theRise and Run podcast was the
first time I listened and Iended up binging the earlier
episodes and have listened eversince.

(02:23:00):
This podcast has been a gatewayto Coach Twiggs and the
Customized Training Group, otherpodcasts such as We'll Run 4
and 321 Go, and it introduced meto Fitz Kohler and the Fitzmas
Show, this group and all of theother groups.
It has led me to have gotten methrough countless training runs
for multiple run, disney races,a Boston marathon, many Space

(02:23:21):
Coast half marathons and so manyother fun races.
It has introduced me toshenanigans, fireball shots on
course, pineapple ciders onDisney Expo days and an evolving
immersion into running incostumes.
This family has also been supersupportive during not one, but
two cancer journeys in just thepast eight months.
I couldn't have kept mypositivity without this amazing

(02:23:43):
running family, knowing that,although I normally run solo and
deal with social anxiety, I amnot alone.
Thank you for everything you'vedone for me and others in the
family, and I look forward tomore involvement in the future.
Congrats on 200 episodes and tomany, many more.
See you at Wine and Dine andhappy running.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Oh golly.
I expected we would have fundoing this and I trust our
friends are having fun listeningto it, but it's getting a
little long and I'd like to wrapit up here and get your
thoughts.
We didn't see this coming 200episodes ago.

(02:24:22):
What do you think is going tohappen in the next 100 episodes
or so?
Where do you see the podcastgoing and what do you see
happening to space, to infinityand beyond?

Speaker 10 (02:24:39):
I'm just grateful any time that someone wants to
listen to us.
So I mean, I feel like if anyday that we can wake up and have
conversations with our friendsand interview really interesting
people and hang out with eachother, I'm going to take that as
a blessing.

Speaker 3 (02:24:59):
I actually got this question yesterday.
I told you I was over visitingfriends, one of the things.
Just from the technical pointof view.
I don't know what's going tohappen in five years.
Five years ago, I think,podcasts were probably not

(02:25:24):
markedly different.
Ten years ago I don't think wecould have done this.
I mean, we sound like we'resitting in the same room.
Ten years ago the bandwidthwouldn't have supported that.
So I don't know what we'regoing to see in five years.
Some type of this medium willstill be out there, but I don't
know what it will be.
But that's not really thequestion.
The question really is what doyou think will happen to Rise

(02:25:47):
and Run?

Speaker 4 (02:25:48):
I see us continuing to grow and just our family
getting bigger, and I mean wealready have so many events like
Flying Pig and Bird in Handthat you guys are doing in the
upcoming weeks where there'slarge groups of our friends
coming and doing it together.

(02:26:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:26:12):
And so.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
I think it will just continue to grow and become even
bigger than it is, and I can'twait to meet even more friends.
Oh, I agree with that.
Couldn't agree more with that.
Yeah, support and friends.

Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
That's the heart of it all.
Um, I'm I'm a little differentin that.
Uh, I don't know how.
I mean I'm not ready to quit.
You guys know that.
But you also know that I'm arealist and I'll.
I'll use our friend Jeff as anexample.
Jeff is a world-class athletewho just turned 80.

(02:26:49):
And he told us he's doingHonolulu because he can't make
the 16-minute mile cutoffanymore.
I'm certainly not going to.
Jeff Galloway can't do it.
I ain't going to do it.
So it's hard to think aboutthat.
But at one point I figured oh,a while back I thought maybe you
know, something happens andthis will go away.

(02:27:11):
I'm not sure that the podcastor some version of it won't be
around as long as there areDisney runs, won't be around as
long as there are Disney runs.
And that doesn't necessarilymean that I'll be on it or that
you'll be on it.
I joke about my little buddy,sam, laura's son, and yeah, I'm

(02:27:32):
kind of grooming him to take myspot here in another 10 or 15
years.
So I don't know what willhappen.
I agree with you, alicia.
I certainly hope that's true.
That's my absolute.
That's my reason for being.
I agree with you, alicia.
I certainly hope that's true.
That's my absolute.
That's my reason for being.
I absolutely love that, butthat's where I see it going.
Hopefully we'll get some moreinteresting guests too.
I'm excited about talking tothem.

Speaker 7 (02:27:54):
So, bob, you know what If a 92 year old can finish
the Ironman like last month?
Yeah, I think.
I think you got so much time ofrunning in you it's not
impossible.

Speaker 3 (02:28:07):
But I I would say two things.
You don't see many people mysize running marathons and you
don't see many people my agerunning marathons.
And I may be the only person oh, my buddy ke.
Well, kelly's not my Kelly's 10years younger than I am.
But it's tough and I'm nottrying to make excuses.

(02:28:31):
You know I want to do thingsand you know I hope I still can.
But I'm also a little bitrealistic.
But I appreciate the enthusiasm, jack, thanks.

Speaker 7 (02:28:40):
Well, also, if you think about, maybe in the future
, I think we might be outgrowingour spot, our meetup spot, I
think we're going to have tofind a new spot.

Speaker 3 (02:28:51):
Yeah, I've thought about that I don't want to say
anything out loud because I'venot done any work on it, but I
have given some thought to doingthat Bob just whisper it then
yeah right, right, well, I don't.
Then yeah right, right, well, Idon't know.
The other thing is that'sweather dependent.
Yeah, I don't like the factthat we have to, and we've been
very lucky.

Speaker 7 (02:29:11):
Oh gosh, yes, We've had close calls.

Speaker 5 (02:29:14):
We've had very close calls.

Speaker 3 (02:29:15):
yes, yeah, In fact, the closest call was that
marathon weekend where they cutthe half in half.
I thought there was no way andthe weather turned out to be
great.
Yeah, it was beautiful, butyeah.

Speaker 5 (02:29:32):
In terms of growth, bob, I'm right there with you.
I'm a realist in the sense thatdo I want the community to grow
Absolutely, but at the sametime, though, I understand that
we are a podcast, or a nichepodcast, that talks about
running geared towards anextremely niche audience, of

(02:29:56):
running at disney, and obviouslythat fandom can only go out so
far yeah sure are there.
Are there new runners?
Are there hundreds or thousandsof people who walk around a run
disney expo and see a rise runshirt and wonder what that is?
I'm sure there are plenty, butI also understand that we we

(02:30:20):
could also not be someone's cupof tea, and that's completely
and that's completely fine andunderstandable.
So, while as much as I want thecommunity to continue to grow,
I think what I'm more focused onin the next 100 episodes is

(02:30:41):
taking what we have and makingit even stronger, and I think if
we can accomplish that, I thinkthat was just going to be
awesome.
And for me, I think that startsin April of next year, when
we're going to try somethingthat we have never tried before

(02:31:01):
in our lives and that's the riseand run cruise.
I mean, obviously, I know notall of the current state rooms
that are booked.
You know, I'm sure there willbe some people that are like, oh
yeah, I had all these grandaspirations of doing that, but
but by the time final paymentcomes, I'm sure some of those
you know might go away, but likethe fact that, as of this given

(02:31:24):
time, we have over 40 staterooms booked on the utopia of
the seas.
That's pretty phenomenal.
To me, it's going to be equallyexciting and nerve-wracking to
have that event and see how wepull it off and and how magic

(02:31:44):
bound is going to help us withit and how it's received by our
podcast family that you know canwe grow from that and I think
that's really exciting.
I mean, you know there's lotsof parts of it.
You know, obviously today'sepisode is the start of
something that I've beenincredibly nervous about in

(02:32:06):
terms of introducing all youknow, this brand new audio
package you know, into into thelexicon of rise and run, and if
people hate it, then maybe aftera couple of episodes, maybe
we'll switch it back to the oldstuff.
We'll we'll have to wait and see, but you know it's little
things like that, like the audiopackage, the, the crews, you
know, I would love, I would lovefor us to like upgrade our

(02:32:28):
website and, you know, even likework with, like other friends
that are equally amazing talentsin um, you know, in this
community, to help support oneanother, like I would love to do
a t-shirt collaboration withzippity t's and I would, you

(02:32:51):
know, I, I think it was, Iforget where I saw it, but you
know people are now maybe wasthe the hashtag run dopey group,
like I would love for us tocome up.
You know, collaborate withsomeone to make rise and run
ears, because we all know howmickey ears are huge during, you
know, race weekends.
You know little things likethat that you know will help

(02:33:13):
enhance this podcast even more,and again with the sole purpose
of growing the community how wecan, but but more importantly,
making it a stronger bond.

Speaker 3 (02:33:23):
I remember in the early days, Greg, when we were a
little competitive but I gotout of that a long time ago and
when someone from the Run Disneycommunity approaches me and
says, hey, can I use the podcastto publicize this?
As long as it's not in directcompetition with someone who is
paying us as a sponsor, I'm allfor it.

(02:33:45):
You know, if I can help otherpodcasts, if we can help other
podcasts, we can help otherFacebook groups, or yeah, I'm
all for that.

Speaker 5 (02:33:53):
Oh, you're right, I mean absolutely.
I mean it's, it's great to seethat you know in these last
almost four years how, how thespace has grown.
I mean that you know youmentioned before disney with the
ducks then, you know, you haveyou know kristin and devin.
You know they now have the runfit fab podcast, the stride
sisters podcast.
Uh, you know, I think just inthe last week alone there have

(02:34:17):
been two other podcasts thathave been formulated who have
requested to follow us onInstagram.
You're absolutely right.
There is no competition.
I love the quote.
A rising tide lifts all boatsand that's extremely important.
With the exception of WillRunfor, I will always be in
competition with them.

Speaker 27 (02:34:37):
He will always be far superior than them.
So suck it, Tom.

Speaker 10 (02:34:42):
That's my family, feud family that you're talking
about.

Speaker 3 (02:34:46):
I was going to give you the business for leaving
them out, greg, but no, allright, friends, we got to put
this to bed.
Let's wrap it up and hear frommore of you.

Speaker 14 (02:35:01):
As I jump in my Mandalorian and venture back to
episode one of the inauguralRise and Run podcast, I find a
group of friends who've cometogether on the podcast for the
first time and yet sounded likethey've been friends for years
and that this was a long runningpodcast.
Anyone who listened to thegroup became immediate followers
and friends.
I know I immediately clickedthat follow button and started
listening to the Rise and Runpodcast.

(02:35:22):
I remember that first race backat Disney after so many months
of no-run Disney races.
I was eager to meet the membersof the Rise and Run podcast at
Margaritaville at Disney Springsduring Wine and Dine weekend.
I was nervous and didn't knowwhat to say, but Bob, of course,
welcomed me immediately.
Then I chatted up Greg Ziertalking all things Disney and

(02:35:42):
Aulani.
I was thrilled to finally meetJack, lexi, alicia and Ali.
They were all so kind andgenuine.
I truly am so grateful thatthese amazing people started a
podcast together, allowing somany runners to come together,
support each other, encourageeach other and grow this
wonderful family of Rise and Runpodcast.
From Tara, the one up north inCanada, I want to wish you a

(02:36:04):
congratulations on your 200thepisode.
I look forward to many moreepisodes and many more race
weekend meetups, possibly withmore of Becky's cookies.

Speaker 31 (02:36:14):
Happy 200, Rise and Run gang.
This is Margaret fromWintergarden, Florida.
Wow, it's been such a blessingto be a part of this amazing
running community.
So many great memories.
First off, I've been inspiredlistening to so many stories.
It's also quite interestinggetting to hear everyone's race
reports and I've enjoyedlistening to my own race tales

(02:36:36):
be shared.
I remember earlier on duringthe first couple years of the
podcast, it was hilarious wheny'all created some friendly
competition amongst Joe and mewith how many races we ran.
I would literally just giggle.
It was then such an honor to bethe spotlight guinea pig and be
featured as the first one torecount my own race report.

(02:36:57):
The Rise and Run gang andfriends have not only been there
through the good times.
You all have also provided yourlove and support to many of us
through the tough times.
Through some recent times I'vehad some family losses, health
issues and suffered a prolongedinjury drastically halting how
much I could run, but you allhave continued to provide so
much encouragement and supportand always a good time at our

(02:37:20):
hangouts.
My hubby Don agrees, Even afterhe went on a wild goose chase
for crickets he thought hadsneaked in our house, which then
prompted Bob to explain that herecords the podcast outdoors.
Through the podcast I've alsomade some great friends, Friends
that are there for each other,from anything in between saying

(02:37:40):
hi on the course to going out oftheir way for each other, Like
the time that Alan and Graceliterally stopped mid-training
run while listening to thepodcast, I must add, to help me
get my luggage from my firsthotel to the Grand Californian
on a Disneyland visit.
That wasn't even for a raceweekend, as all of you know,
whether it's a Disney or a localrace, my passion for running

(02:38:03):
and playing dress-up runs deep.
The outfits add pixie dust andput a pep in our step.
Getting to share this passionwith the rest of the running
community, both on the course aswell as by being a member on
the Council of Costumes, isreally an ultimate highlight for
me.
Thank you for allowing me tocontribute, gang.

Speaker 3 (02:38:20):
Friends.
Again, thank you for all themessages.
We love you.
We appreciate it.
Episode 201, Jodi Chase willjoin us.
What you don't know.
Who Jodi Chase is?
Yes, you do.
You've seen her.
If you've done a Disney run,you've seen Jodi.
She's out there as you'recoming up the hill on the

(02:38:41):
marathons or the half marathonat the.
As you're coming up the hill onthe marathons or the half
marathon, she's out there doingthe tailgating with her friend.
Jody's an entertainer who worksa lot at Disney.
Oh, and she's John Pelkey'swife, so we'll be glad to have
her with us next week.
And now, Please stand clear ofthe door.

(02:39:04):
It's time for a race report.

Speaker 10 (02:39:07):
Por favor, manténganse alejado de las
puertas.

Speaker 3 (02:39:12):
Race report is sponsored by our friend Thomas
Stokes of Stokes MetabolicTraining.
Stokesfit slash rise and runcoaching is his primary website.
We're in the middle of theeight week summer challenge.
I have done okay with it.
I could do better.
Life gets in the way.

(02:39:33):
You know how it is.
So I've I've managed probablytwo of my three workout days the
first two weeks.
Alicia, you doing well with it.

Speaker 4 (02:39:40):
I've been doing kind of my own strength training
within his program.
Yeah, I think that's cool.
Yeah, I love seeing themessages from the friends.

Speaker 3 (02:39:48):
Yeah, in a way, just the fact that he's there and
that the program exists keeps megoing, so I appreciate that.
All right, let's start thisrace report.
This one's interesting.
Our friend, debbie, was on arun.
This isn't a race, okay, butshe was out on a run over at
Port Orleans at Disney World,and she's coming from Port

(02:40:14):
Orleans Riverside.
She's heading to French Quarterand the boat the boat that
navigates the river is alongsideof her and the boat captain's
navigates the rivers alongsideof her and the boat captain's
gun in the engine and racing her.
So I love that yeah, it was kindof cool.

Speaker 5 (02:40:29):
It was a neat post I remember seeing the instagram
video of the of a very, verysimilar thing a few years ago,
so the fact that she got toparticipate this in real life
was awesome, and I hope youcelebrated by getting some
mickey beignets at the end.

Speaker 3 (02:40:43):
So so congratulations .
We're going to give debbie ahalf mile pr because she says
she's sure that's the fastestshe's ever run a half mile.
She did get to the dock beforethe boat and here's the uh.
Here's another interestingtwist on that story.
I, by marriage a nephew and hiswife who live about three miles

(02:41:08):
from here.
They go to Disney all the time.
They were on the boat becausethey told me hey, yeah, we saw
this Rise and Run friend.
It was kind of neat, they wereracing and it was hilarious, it
was fun.
So, Debbie, congratulations.
Tuesday last week it was fun.
So, Debbie, congratulations.
Tuesday last week Pete wasdoing the Run the Vineyards Rock

(02:41:31):
, the Night Away 5K in Hamilton,New Jersey.
Anna, over in the UK onWednesday, did the Summer Turkey
Trot in Camborne.
I probably butchered that, Anna.
You know I can't pronounceEnglish words.
Isn't it a little early forThanksgiving.
That's them British folk, greg.
Well, I don't know when.
You know most countries have aThanksgiving.

(02:41:52):
I don't know when Britain hastheirs.
I'll have to look it up.
I'm sure we'll find out when itcomes along.
Let's see.
Still on Wednesday in St Charles, illinois, the Summer Sunset 5K
.
Caitlin ran it along the riverin St Charles.
Learned to expect some hills onthis one.
When I read that I was a littlesurprised.

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Most runs along rivers stayrelatively flat, but got some
hills here.
Had a pizza party at the end.
That's a great way to celebratebeing second in her age group.
Nicely done, caitlin.
Caitlin's back in the report onSaturday, I believe.
Again, more of the weekday runs.

(02:42:34):
I think this was interesting.
These have come up the last twoweeks had a couple on Thursday
the JCC run, sweatin' Beers 5Kand Boca Raton Holly did it.
7 o'clock temperature I looked.
I don't know if that's 7 in themorning or 7 in the evening.

(02:42:54):
The temp was 86.
Dewpoint was 79.
That sounds familiar.
There had plenty of water onthis one.
I'm guessing, since it was aweekday run it's probably in the
evening.
Plenty of water, gatorade, foodand beer at the end.
So it was a good race, well puttogether.
Last year she ran this one in48 minutes.
This year, despite having sometrouble having a bad third mile,

(02:43:17):
she ran it in 38 minutes,setting a new 5k PR.
She ran it in 38 minutes,setting a new 5K PR.
She also used it for her magicmile shaved 40 seconds off there
.
You know what that means, Holly.
Coach Chris is going to changeyour training times.
We talked about this one lastweek.
It's a race series, the AngryChicken race series.

(02:43:41):
I know you remember that AngryChicken series.
This one's called Berna's GreatLegs 5K.
It's up in Lowell.
How come you weren't there,allie?
It's up in Lowell,massachusetts.
That's where I'm from.
Yeah, I thought it soundedfamiliar.
Rachel was there and Sophie andAudrey were there.
Let's see, this was the onethat had the sports fan theme.

(02:44:05):
Okay, sophie and Audrey alsohad their mom, robin.
She was there.
The highlight for Audrey on thisone was that her daughter,
melody, did the Little Miss FunRun before the 5K, since that
was Melody's first 400-meter run.
Melody, that's a PR.

(02:44:26):
We have some wonderful picturesin the Facebook group of
children.
This week this picture ofMelody was just adorable.
So you've got the picture ofMelody and then the picture of
Allison, melissa's daughter.
Those two are just adorable,both of them.

(02:44:47):
Let's see Audrey ran this one.
Audrey and Sophie tookadvantage.
It's an early start option.
Let's them get ahead of thespeedy people before the course
narrows and they got a longuphill.
Audrey says she probablywouldn't have survived without
the freeze pop at the end.
But this was Audrey's first2.62 mile race, so I think

(02:45:17):
that's why they do it.
They get the PR Still.
On Thursday in the UK, again Inthe Durham city run festival 10
K.
And he did it.
Beautiful city, not the easiestto run in full of Hills.
Uh, some of them even had an,even cobblestones on the road,

(02:45:41):
believe it or not.
I run into that in StPetersburg sometime.
Didn't notice last time becausethey were under a foot and a
half of water.
But Andy wasn't happy with lastyear's results.
He was determined to do thisone in under 60 minutes and he
did.
He knocked it out in just alittle over 59.
Good for you, andy.

(02:46:01):
Friday in Elk Grove I thinkthis is Elk Grove, illinois.
Tiffany was in the MargaritaMayhem 5K.
She'd been gunning for a sub 255K, which is smoking as far as
I'm concerned Finished this onein 24-17.

(02:46:22):
Sixth overall, second in herage group, margarita's at the
finish and if you finish inunder under 25 minutes you get
your choice because they're allstill there.
Uh, they're setting up for thechristmas in july run on
saturday.
So she took some pictures ofthe deflated santa claus
blow-ups that were out there.
They kind of made her laugh.
Doug was running in queens atthe Trials of Miles 5K on the

(02:46:46):
beach at Rockaway Beach inQueens Hot, sunny, double out
and backs on each end.
So they packed 3.1 miles into arelatively short stretch of the
boardwalk.
Race ended with lays instead ofmedals, that's cool.
Walk Race ended with laysinstead of medals that's cool.

(02:47:08):
And the finish line was a rampthat headed right down to the
beach so you could cool off.
Kind of a light schedule.
On Saturday, the Donut Dash 5Kin Batavia or Batavia I think
it's Batavia, illinois.
Caitlin was there.
Another fun looped coursearound the Fox River had some
kids races at this one.
Of course there were donuts.
At the end with coffee had tohave donuts.

(02:47:29):
It's a donut dash.
And on top of it, this timeCaitlin finished first in her
age group.
Congratulations, caitlin.
That's cool.
Stephen did a Spartan race inGrand Rapids, michigan.
This is state number 16 forSteven in the obstacle course

(02:47:50):
race series.
Out in Seattle Washington, lacewith her son did the Microsoft
Redmond 5K First race report forLace.
Thank you, lace, I'm glad yousubmitted this one.
Let's see Flat fun coursethrough the Microsoft campus

(02:48:12):
Celebration.
At the end on the athleticfields, lace's son hit his goal,
which was to finish a 5Kwithout complaining about it.
Greg, that's a goal you need toset.
5k without complaining about it, greg, that's a goal you need
to set.
Okay, thanks, lace.
Now, lace, I'm not sure thatwe've met before and if you

(02:48:33):
pronounce that Lacey, l-a-c-e, Iapologize, but I'm going with
what I see here and I hope I gotit right.
I really do.
But a weekend long event, theFull Moon 25K.
They also had a 50K option andI believe it is Huichita
National Forest in Arkansas,o-u-i-c-h-i-t-a.

(02:48:57):
I think that's Huichita, shelbyAllison SA did this one?
Haven't heard from SA for awhile.
Glad to hear from you again.
My friend.
1800 feet of elevation gaintook its toll.
That's a significant number.
Sa.
Gravel and rocks kind ofwrecked her feet, but she had
the most delicious peanut butterand jelly sandwich at the

(02:49:20):
turnaround.
See, jack, they are worthsomething.
It was almost spiritual peanutbutter and jelly sandwich at the
turnaround.
See, jack, they are worthsomething.
It was almost spiritual.
And then she chugged a MountainDew for the first time in years
.
So good to hear from you again.
Shelby Allison and your funArkansas race team that's right,
she created that acronym onpurpose.
Lori's up in Barrington, novaScotia, doing the Nova Scotia

(02:49:43):
marathon.
She did, she did.
She knows about it.
She did the fun Arkansas raceteam.
Let's see, lori.
Lori's been really active.

Speaker 5 (02:49:57):
In fact I think.

Speaker 3 (02:49:57):
Lori's on every race report, isn't she Pretty close?
Most likely?
Yes, Pretty much.
Let's see More elevation thanshe expected.
Her goal was 208.
Let's see more elevation thanshe expected.
Our goal was 208.
She knocked it out in just afew seconds over that.
That's pretty good.
Now, nice story here.
After it was an earlier race,Lori had met a young woman who
said that she had been using theyoung woman, had been using

(02:50:17):
Lori as a pacer.
You know, I'll keep that womanin my sights and if I can stay
with her then I'll finish, andthat's what she did.
So now, lining up at the startline for this weekend's race,
same young woman comes and sayshey, can I use you as a pacer
this time?
So they stayed together about18 kilometers and for those of

(02:50:39):
you who are metricallychallenged, the half marathon is
21.1 kilometers About 18kilometers, the young lady took
off and when Lori finished shesaw her sitting in a chair and
she was sobbing.
She went over and said are youokay?
What's wrong?
Oh, these are happy tears.
I finished in 206 and neverthought I could do that.

(02:51:01):
And, Lori, you have been aninspiration to me.
Well, that's great, Laurie,that is fantastic.
Laurie asked can I give you ahug, and of course they did, and
now they've exchangedinformation.
They're Instagram friends andLaurie she better, this young
lady better be listening to thepodcast next week.
That's all I have to say.

(02:51:23):
So actually, you ever had achance to do something like that
, friends, to pace somebody?
They just kind of caught you onthe course and said, hey, can I
hang with you?
Yeah, that's how I met.

Speaker 10 (02:51:32):
Heidi, we were both going through the heck together
through a race and we just keptstaying with each other and at
the end we kind of thanked eachother for getting each other
through it.
It wasn't necessarily acompetition thing, more than it
was survival and like if thatperson can do it, I can do it
too.

Speaker 5 (02:51:51):
And the rest is history.

Speaker 3 (02:51:52):
I can't imagine Heidi staying with you.
I imagine Heidi's there andthen a couple minutes later
she's gone and then she comesback.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:52:00):
She comes back with donuts or whatever A cup of
coffee.

Speaker 3 (02:52:07):
All right, We'll wrap up the race report.
In Erie, Pennsylvania, Ourfriend Michelle did the Presque
Isle half marathon.
Michelle got a chance to pacesomebody.
A woman came up to her and saidshe was having a tough time.
Michelle told her about whatshe was doing with her run-walk
intervals and at mile 12,Michelle's pacing partner said

(02:52:32):
this is the first race I'vecompleted since I finished my
cancer treatments, stopped rightthere and hugged At the end.
Michelle says you go, yousprint to the finish line.
Your husband, your two-year-oldson, are waiting there for you.
You've earned this one.
So there you go.
There's two pretty good storiescoming out of Sunday.

(02:52:59):
Good stuff.
All right, my friends, 200episodes.
Let me take a minute here.
I mean, we spent plenty of time, but I just wanted to wrap up,
just leave you with a couple ofthoughts.
We approach this as justanother episode, but as it got
closer the significance of itgrew and I think the past few

(02:53:21):
weeks of revisiting friends kindof had a little effect on all
of us.
I want to say, and if I didn'tsay it before, my life has
changed because of you, becauseof my friends I visit with every
week here on this podcast andmy friends who listen and who I

(02:53:41):
see when we get to Disney Worldand I love it.
Sometimes when I sit back andreflect, that's all that's
happened in the last couplehundred episodes.
All the amazing, wonderfulpeople I've met, the number of
become great friends and thenumber of friendships that you
have formed amongst yourselves Ijust I literally sit here and

(02:54:04):
shake my head.
That's got to be the biggestthing that I didn't see coming.
Look at just how many communitychats we have.
Just scroll through those andlook how many people are talking
to one another.
I know there are hundreds moreof you we haven't met yet,

(02:54:28):
that's okay, but just know wewould love to have you as
members of this community.
I know we'll be around for awhile.
I'm not going to think aboutthe long-term future right now.
I'm just going to celebrate 200and look forward to 201.
There's no Zoom call this week.
We had one last week.

(02:54:48):
We'll have one next week, so Ihope to see you there.
If not, we'll see you real soonat Disney World.
Happy running.

Speaker 5 (02:55:09):
The Rise and Run podcast discusses general
information about Run Disney andis in no way affiliated with
Run Disney or the Walt DisneyCompany.
Any information or advicediscussed on this podcast should
not be considered medicaladvice and should always consult
with your healthcare provideror event organizer.

Speaker 1 (02:55:25):
Morning sun rise and run, we rise and run, we rise

(02:55:52):
and run.

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