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Have you ever wondered how a simple cheek swab could save someone's life? In this deeply moving episode, we're joined by representatives from the National Marrow Donor Program who explain how their registry connects blood cancer patients with life-saving donors. Our guest Abby shares her powerful personal journey of receiving a stem cell transplant that cured her cancer, reminding us that sometimes the most profound acts of heroism come from anonymous strangers willing to donate.

The heart of this episode centers on the Loopy Looper relay ultramarathon in New Jersey, where three teams of Rise and Run and Will Run For community members gathered to honor their friend Erin. Their stories of perseverance, camaraderie, and celebration showcase what makes our running community so special. From sharing hoagies Lady-and-the-Tramp style to completing the final 3.75-mile loop together while some wore weighted vests, these runners demonstrate that the miles we share mean more than the ones we run alone.

We also dive into exciting runDisney news, including a thorough breakdown of the Disneyland Halloween race weekend event guide (just four weeks away!) and spirited discussion about the newly announced Muppets-themed 12Ks of Christmas virtual races. Greg's passionate reaction to the Muppets finally getting runDisney recognition – and his mild disappointment they didn't use the Muppet Christmas Carol – highlights the deep connection many of us feel to these beloved characters.

Whether you're training for an upcoming Disney race, considering ways to give back through running, or simply looking for inspiration from fellow runners, this episode reminds us that running creates connections that transcend the miles. Join our community where every step, every mile, and every finish line is celebrated together.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Expo lights and cheering lines, costumes, bright
and hopeful signs.
We're not alone.
This path is wide, with everylistener by our side, From
training tips to tales thatshine inspiration in every line.
We may fall, but we rise again,fueled by community and friends
.
The road is long, but we belongin this rhythm, in this song.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Rise and run from start to the run.
Together we shine like themorning sun.
Rise and run, we rise and run,we rise and run.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Good morning, Rise and Run.
This is Mary from NorthCarolina calling with a joke to
start your run today.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
What does Donald Duck eat after he finishes his long
run?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
He eats cheese and crackers, of course.
Have a great day everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Cheese and crackers.
Oh Mary, oh gosh, that was fun,though, mary, thank you.
Thanks for the intro, friends.
I hope you enjoyed that.
Welcome to episode 202 of therise and run podcast.
We're so happy that you're here.

(01:24):
I'm Bob, and with me this weekare Lexi, hello, jack Hiya, greg
, hey, hey.
Hey.
John, hey, how you doing.
And Alicia, hello, good to seeyou, my friends, full house this
evening, that's always fun.
Ba-ba-ba-da-ba-ba-da evening,that's always fun.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
Sorry, I had to.
Riley's been watching itnon-stop, so the theme song just
plays in my head Automatically,right?

Speaker 6 (01:52):
It's like an old brain worm there.
Let's see, this week we'll betalking with us kids.
We've got things to talk about.
This week we visit firstepisode of the month.
We highlight a charity.
This month we highlight theNational Marrow Donor Program.

(02:12):
A couple of their folks will bewith us In the spotlight Loopy
Looper a fun Saturday event upin New Jersey with lots of Rise
and Run, and We'll Run Forfriends in attendance.

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(02:52):
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Speaker 6 (03:05):
And Greg.
If I may, that was our lastintro, so we need some new ones,
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Speaker 9 (03:24):
Alright, you guys, you know we're going to be
talking about loopy loopertonight and you know what we're
also going to be doing withloopy looper having an episode
on our YouTube channel comingout on Saturday, very excited to
show you the highlights of theday.
It was a beautiful day and wecan't wait to share it and show
you it.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, you can hear all about it here.
Then watch the highlights nextweek or whenever Jack gets that
published, which I think will bereal soon Saturday.
Saturday.
All right, so it'll be realsoon.
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(04:04):
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Big news Next week, brad andMaggie will be with us to talk
about all those things, so I'mjust going to let this go by
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(04:26):
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Let's look at the trainingschedules.
Halloween race at Disneyland isfour weeks away.
We're getting back to theseason, friends.
Four weeks from today is ExpoDay.

(04:46):
If you are running the challengeout there, your numbers are
getting high.
For training this week, you'vegot a double up.
You've got a four-mile walkfollowed by a 12.5-mile run walk
.
You'll only have one more longone after this, before race day.
Wine and Dine Wine and Dine.
Wine and Dine.
Now, 11 weeks away, thetraining calls for a three-mile

(05:12):
run, including the Magic Milethis weekend, for Marathon
Weekend.
Marathon Weekend is 22 weeksaway.
You're in training week six.
If you are doing the dopey orgoofy challenge, your long run
is seven miles, and if you arefollowing the advanced or expert

(05:34):
marathon training schedule.
Your long one is 11 miles thisweekend, so we're getting double
digit numbers.
Talk about that a little bit injust a moment.
I want to toss out one morething from the day of this
recording Bird in Hand, and manyof us will be there.
Bird in Hand is now just 30days away.

(05:56):
Okay, guys, let's talk traininga little bit.
How's the training going?
What kind of updates do we have?

Speaker 9 (06:05):
I know I didn't talk about this when we were talking
about Loopy Looper.

Speaker 10 (06:11):
We didn't talk about it yet.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Jack.
Oh yeah, sorry, Jack, what areyou?
Are you in your Mandalorian?

Speaker 9 (06:16):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
You're going back and forth in time.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, as always.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
It does get confusing , doesn't it Jack?
It does we record.
It does get confusing, doesn'tit jack?
It says we record out of orderand yeah, that's okay but yeah,
so, um.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
so the goal was to do four loops for loopy looper and
um.
In the second loop, uh, rightbefore I started I was like you
know what, it'd be nice to seeif I can get my half marathon
pace and see if I can actuallydo what, uh, my Galloway pace
predictor for my half marathonsays, and it was hot.

(06:50):
It was already in the low 80s,I think, when I started my
second loop, around like noon orwhatever, and I'm very proud to
say, for a 3.7 mile loop orwhatever, I averaged an 8.36.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Oh, oh, wow, that's great.

Speaker 9 (07:05):
Yeah, and my, my second mile within that was an
815.
And I told myself I had to slowdown.
So I was like I was reallyhappy.
So I don't know if I shouldexpect that when I go and run my
half marathon in a month ormaybe just I think when you're
running with friends or when youare with friends, you take away
the stress of the race and youkind of are able to just kind of

(07:28):
relax and have fun with it, andI wonder if that's probably
what it was.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, you're right about that, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
Bob, I'm also going to hop in my Mandalorian,
because I also didn't talk aboutthis when we chatted about
Loopy Looper.
But it's not necessarily atraining update per se to me,
but it's just some running andtraining advice that I just want
to impart on to the listeningcommunity.
And that is, if you arefollowing the galloway method,

(07:56):
obviously, jeff and the gallowayteam has this wonderful
breakdown of you know, once yourun your magic mile, you know
you, you know you get the pacesand in the paces then dictate a
ratio.
I'm sure Jeff would tell youthis, I'm sure Crouch Twigs
would tell you this, and I'mgoing to tell you this now.

(08:18):
Those ratios are guidelinesbecause you, you have to do what
is comfortable for you andsometimes you can get the exact
same result, and that was to me.
That was completely evident forthe first time ever during loopy
loopy, because when I went outfor my first loop, um, our fred

(08:41):
brianna went out for her firstloop as well, so we decided to
run together for a little bitand then, you know, my gym boss
went off.
So I, I went and started myfirst walk break and she kept
going.
She was doing 90 thirties, Iwas doing 30 thirties and there
was that one point I actuallypassed Brianna and then she

(09:03):
passed by me and then weleapfrogged with one another and
then just got to the pointwhere we were doing it so much
that probably for like the lastquarter of a mile of that loop
we just ran together again andwe crossed the start finish line
together.
So it goes to show that we wererunning the exact same pace but
doing vastly differentintervals running the exact same

(09:27):
pace but doing vastly differentintervals.
So if you look at the Gallowaychart and you either think that
this is too easy or that's toodifficult, it is quite all right
to make adjustments.
Just use that chart as aguideline, find out what's best
for you and your running journeyand hopefully that will open
some new doors in terms of yourtraining.
Last thing I just want to sayreally quick, before the rest of

(09:48):
my friends talk about theirupdates here is I just want to
thank everyone who eitherreached out to me personally or
made that Facebook post about mytraining update from last week
in terms of that liberatingfeeling of pulling the Tony and
talking about body positivityand, and you know, and not being
apprehensive about running withyour shirt off or running in

(10:10):
just a sports bra or somethinglike that.
I really enjoyed reading allthe comments that came through
on that Facebook post of peoplereally wanting to encourage one
another as well too.
So again, so from the bottom ofmy heart, I just wanted to
thank our community for that aswell.

Speaker 10 (10:24):
Well, cool, I went out Sunday, did a run Sunday.
I mean I've been walking a lotat work so I've been kind of not
really doing much on theweekdays because I mean, after
putting in, you know, four tosix miles a day on my feet,
going home and putting the shoesback on and going out, it was
not tough.
So I went out and did a run,did pretty well.

(10:47):
I just realized that I think Ineed a little more hill work now
because that's starting to kickmy butt.
I know you get the, I guess,the endurance, as Jeff says,
doing the walking which I, whichis fine.
But I think you know the hillsare what I need to work on

(11:10):
because I mean I did them, I did, I did them without stopping,
which was what I was my big goal.
So that was my big big plus forthe run.
But I did feel that at the topof that hill it's like I'm going
to die.
But you didn't.
I didn't die die.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
I'm here to talk about it today that's good,
we're very and we're not gonnalet you die a burden hand either
.
No, no, no.

Speaker 10 (11:32):
So I mean I got four weeks to start working on the
hills this week.
So I'm gonna try working onthat this week and I'm gonna try
to get out thursday just afterwork, just force myself to at
least get 30 minutes in just tokind of get on that hill.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Well, I got a couple of things I wanted to chat about
a little bit and kind of inGreg's vein.
Some of these are more ideasthan they are training updates
on my part.
First one and I meant to saythis earlier as the miles start
to go up now it's still quitewarm.
It's going to be throughoutmost of the US.
August is a very hot month also.
You get into longer runs.

(12:09):
I have to remind myself to takeoff my rings because my fingers
swell.
Now, it's not dangerous.
They swell for a couple reasons.
They swell because of theincreased blood flow to your
hands.
You get out on long events,especially when you're sweating
a lot, you get an electrolyteimbalance.
You lose a lot of sodium, soit's not unusual for your hands

(12:30):
to swell.
It's not a dangerous situation.
You're not going to cut off thesupply of blood to the end of
your ring finger, but it can getmighty uncomfortable.
So I try to remember to take myrings off.
The second thing I had 12 milesthis weekend.
I did two on the road, then Icame back and did 10 on the
treadmill and I walked quite abit of it and I walk at a pretty

(12:54):
good pace and people ask mequestions about walking and I'm
not going to give a class onwalking here, but I will tell
you that many people look at meand say, well, you're so tall
and that's why you walk fast.
It helps, but it only helps alittle bit.
The thing that helps you towalk fast most is to increase

(13:17):
your cadence, and you can usethe cadence drill for walking,
just like you do for running,and practice speeding up your
cadence.
I will tell you there have beensome running events where I
have tried to walk as quickly asI can, and I trained for that.
But if I want to pick up mywalking pace and I'm out on a

(13:38):
race course, the first thing Ido is shorten my stride, not
lengthen my stride.
Shorten my stride, keep thatfoot under your center of
balance, make your strideshorter.
If you put your foot out infront of you and try to lengthen
that walking stride, you'redoing two things.
Number one, you're riskinginjury and number two, you're

(14:01):
putting on the brakes.
You're putting that foot infront of you and you're actually
slowing yourself down until youcan get to center of your
gravity, the center of mass ofyour body, over that foot.
So I'm not going to go intomuch more than that, but work on
increasing your cadence and dothat by shortening your stride

(14:22):
and you'd be surprised.
Shorter steps, faster, you'llbe surprised how much that'll
pay off.
Last thing I'm aqua joggingagain now for a while.
That's not by choice, butthat's what I'll be doing and
that's another good.
I'm not going to do a course onthat right now either.
Maybe someday I will.
Jack Inside joke.
It's not a joke.
Jack keeps bugging me to do aYouTube on.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
I think it'd be a fantastic video.
You know what you guys go aheadand bug Bob.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah but, I go into the pool without my shirt on.
I don't want anybody to seethat.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
Bob, didn't we just talk about body positivity?
And everyone being comfortablein their own skin.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
I put it on the tee for you, greg, thank you.
I put it on the tee for you,greg, thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
Okay, I was thinking it, greg said it.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
But yeah, that is a.
You can look Jeff Galloway'ssite.
He's got some information onaqua jogging.
You do need to get a flotationbelt.
Well, you don't.
You don't really.
If you're just want to try itand see how it works, try it and
see how it works.
Grab a pool noodle.
Is that what you used?
No, I don't.
I have a flotation belt, butit's just enough to keep your

(15:31):
neck and head out of the water.
You don't really float on it.
So, yeah, so you can try that.
It's a good substitute.
It's a great substitute foryour weekday runs in these very
hot days.
Caution runners.
Change of topic ahead.
Information from Disney.
We got two news items hererecently.

(15:53):
Let's take them in the orderthat I saw them.
They may have come out in adifferent order.
The 12 Ks of Christmas wereannounced and I think I got a
bunch of people looking at theartwork and going, oh geez, I
might want to do this.
I'm not going to say anythingmore.
What did we think of theartwork?

Speaker 9 (16:17):
it's very interesting you don't like it.
Anytime.
Someone says it's interestingmeans they don't like it.
It's like the 12.
It's interesting means theydon't like it.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
It's like the 12 they're going with the buddy
theme again.
I guess with this artwork youknow Kermit and Robin, what's
his Gonzo and what was her name?
Camilla and Miss Piggy and Fufu.
So it's like a buddies thingfor the Christmas party Camilla
and Miss Piggy, and Fufu, fufu,yeah, fufu.

(16:45):
So it's like a buddy's thingfor the Christmas party, which
kind of seems interesting theway they went that way.
Are we missing a medal there?

Speaker 11 (16:53):
Oh yeah, I think the challenge medal is a bunch of
them, I think it's like Animaland Gonzo was on one of them,
right Hold on Gonzo yeah, couldbe be he's on something.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
Yeah, no, he's on there he gets his own medal, his
own 4k Gonzo and Camilla getthe three 4ks, the 12ks of
Christmas, huh.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
And then there's a challenge medal that goes with
that.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
Oh, the big, the big deal is, it's Muppets themed
when I sent it to you guys, Iimmediately thought of you, greg
.
I didn't put a caption oranything, I just sent the
pictures.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
Yes, and I appreciate that and because I always
harass all of you about.
You know, if, like you know,say, say, it's a tuesday morning
and like, say, wine and dimemedals drop, like our, our group
chat is a buzz with peopletyping and giving their thoughts
and I'm the one that alwaysgoes in there, why are we

(17:46):
talking about this right now?
We need to save it for ourpodcast recording.
So I have been internalizingthis and collecting all of my
thoughts and tampering myexcitement, but yet showing my
excitement Because, my God, am Iconflicted?
My God, am I conflicted?
I am so beyond the moon thatthey are finally or I shouldn't

(18:09):
say finally, but again embracingthe Muppets in terms of run
Disney.
Now, there is a part of me thatwishes that this was for an
in-person race but, I, canunderstand, from an
entertainment perspective, whymaybe doing Muppets for an
in-person race is a little bitmore difficult, hence why it's

(18:30):
uh, you're being used forvirtual.
So again there's.
The positive for me is that I,I really, really love this.
The muppets they're, they'recontinuing this celebration.
It's the 70th anniversary ofthe muppets, hence why I I think
you know this theme was chosen.
When I saw the the first photos, it was either alicia, the

(18:52):
photos that you sent, which Ithink were like in a carousel,
so the first photo that I sawwas kermit and robin, and I got
very excited and I'm like, oh,my God, it's happening.
Not only is it the Muppets,because, but since it's the 12
K's of Christmas, my God, theyare going to do Muppets,

(19:14):
christmas Carol.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, that would have been nice.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Then I clicked on the second image and I saw Gonzo
and I'm like, yes, but then I'mlike, wait a second.
It's Gon, like yes, but thenI'm like, wait a second, it's
gonzo and camilla.
This should be gonzo and rizzo.
Hashtag light the lamp, not therat.

(19:36):
So to me, run disney, I'm very,very confused.
You finally decided to embracethe muppets, which again, I'm
very excited about, and you'reputting them with a christmas
theme.
And you literally have a moviein your collection that you own
the rights to, of the muppetchristmas carol, and yet it's

(19:57):
not themed to muppet christmascarol.
I don't think camilla is inmuppet Christmas Carol, miss
Piggy only gets a little bit ofscreen time as Mrs Cratchit, and
then Animal, I think, is onscreen for two seconds in that
movie.
So to me, you were this close,you were this, this close to

(20:20):
getting the absolute perfecttheming and you just missed it.
But at the same time, though Imight have to do it because and,
and that's and, and that wasthe other thing that I wanted to
mention too is this is thesecond instance in the last
couple of weeks that I trulythink and this excites me that

(20:42):
run dis Disney is listening tothis community and I'll give you
the examples why.
A couple of weeks ago I had thewonderful opportunity our
friends Kristen and Devin.
They invited me to be a gueston the Run Fit Fab podcast and
we got talking about themes.

(21:02):
And at one point I think wewere chatting about race
costumes and I think we weretalking because I'm running just
a half marathon for MarathonWeekend and they were like, oh,
you should run as Donald with us.
And I was like, yeah, that'sfine, but maybe I should wear

(21:26):
pants, because we all know thatDonald doesn't like to wear
pants.
And then that conversationmorphed into talking about Pooh
Bear and about how he doesn'twear pants.
And then, when the springtimesurprise themes got released,
they made that little quirkabout please wear pants to this
race.
And then, when they also askedme a question about what race

(21:46):
theme I would want, I talkedabout that we need to have the
muppets.
And then the collectively thethree of us were talking about
oh my god, what if they didmuppet christmas carol for the
christmas virtuals and what dowe have here that great?
Maybe this was in the works andwe just got really lucky, but
but at the same time there's apart of me that thinks they're

(22:07):
listening.
So bravo Run, disney.
That being said, you were thisclose and now, for the next week
and a half, I'm going to becontemplating whether I'm going
to spend $267 to get a set ofMuppets medals and some
Twinnings tea and a beanie.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
It's the beanie.
It's the beanie.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
It could be the beanie that sets me over.

Speaker 9 (22:30):
I love wearing a beanie.
They're one of my favorites.
Now, Greg, I will say youalmost sounded offended.
That wasn't the Christmas Carol, Like I thought you were going
to go off into a whole notherdirection but it's not a rant.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Rant it's not right because, again, I'm very happy
that it's the muppets.
I was just like you have themuppets and you have a christmas
thing and you put them togetherand you put the wrong aspects
of them together.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
But I'm still happy though I I will say I do find it
kind of funny that it beingtheir 78th anniversary and then
they just closed muppet visionand the whole muppet land area.
That's what I was gonna say if,like, they just closed it, but
they're like let's give peoplethe love, because we didn't
realize everybody loved themuppet area so much, so let's go

(23:18):
ahead and put them on the yoga.
Uh, what was it?
The yoga for disneyland?

Speaker 7 (23:23):
yes, yeah, because that's miss piggy yep.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
And then the virtual races.
I was like they're getting alot of love and then we didn't.
We have like a wine and dine.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Yeah, it was the sweetest chef.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yep, yeah, I was gonna say they've been getting a
lot of love.
So I'm still shocked that theytook away muppets and not the
courtyard over at studios forthe.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
Uh well, I I still have my theory, but we talked
about this on the uh, the riseand run zoom call that we had
the other week.
I I have a theory that oncelexi's precious villains land is
open at the magic kingdom, Ithink they're gonna move some
iteration of that show that's inhollywood studios right now.

(24:04):
I think that's just a test.
I think it's something to givestudios something to draw people
in, but I also think it's atest for Villain's Land.
I think once the Muppet redo ofRockin' Rollercoaster is done,
I would not be shocked if theyconvert that flex space into a
new area for Muppet Vision 3D.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
Well, they also just announced a complete redo of
Animation Courtyard.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
Yeah, but that building specifically where the
villains theme show has been nowredone four different times
because when that opened Iactually was one of the people
that worked there when it firstopened that area and it was just
a character dance, meet andgreet with some art stuff and
then they changed it to cars,and then they changed it to a

(24:51):
villain's dessert party, andthen they changed it to villains
show.
So I wouldn't be surprised ifit got to be something else.
But anyway, sorry I'm goinginto a rant now.

Speaker 10 (25:04):
Now you got me worried, guys, because why, we
had a post on our facebook groupabout uh, disney and synergy
and how they like to do thingstogether with you know oh, I
know where you're going withthis, okay star wars being, you
know, 2027.
They're going to re-releasestars in the movie theater.
50 years of Star Wars.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Maybe springtime the race will be Star Wars themed
it's going to be John, becausewe're putting it out into the
universe.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
I'm hoping that's happening, but I just hope that
I'm getting this vibe that maybethey might, they might, they
might give it to us for thesummer.
Virtuals of 2027 hmm, oh, Ihope it's not a virtual, because
that's really rude.
They might give it to us forthe summer virtuals of 2027.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Oh, I hope it's not a virtual, because that's really
rude.
No, you know what, john?

Speaker 7 (25:51):
That's really sound thinking, because I remember and
I think we briefly talked aboutthis when the springtime
surprise themes came out,because I was right there with
you I thought we were going toget star wars for springtime.
And then, when carissa gallowaywas on kristen, uh and devon's
podcast run fit fab, uh, theyinterviewed her and they she was

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talking about star wars sceneand apparently lucasfilm has
such control over what they canthey can show and say and and
the characters that they haveout, that I think it's a really
big hassle for one Disney.
So yeah, john, I do kind ofsubscribe to your idea that it
could be summer virtual.

Speaker 10 (26:34):
Next, year, but I hope I'm totally wrong.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Well, to be honest, if you look at the virtual
series for the summer ones,those to me are some of the best
medals that you're going to getusually, just because, like,
look at the virtual series thatcame out this year, it was all
attractions themed and it wasthe most beautiful medals.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Did you?

Speaker 9 (26:52):
get your medals yet, Bob.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Oh yeah, we got them early, there's still some people
who haven't gotten them.
Are you really?
Well as of a week or two ago, Isaw some people saying they
didn't get them.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (27:05):
That's wild, it's like almost done with the summer
, probably they could have wrong, maybe addresses or something
like that.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Well, speaking of the medals, as you know, I'm fond
of saying that it's never been amedal that is maybe one to do a
race and never made a medalthat maybe go.
No, I'm not doing.
Doing this is just proofbecause this is as good as it
gets and I'm not doing these now, in fairness, bob, they're not
metals, they are ornaments.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Yeah oh, that's right well, uh hopefully.
I'm still not hopefully epsilongives you another.

Speaker 10 (27:41):
It was epsilon echelon echelon gives you
another free virtual deal forthat.
I wouldn't turn that down.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
Or you just give it to your friend Greg.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Remember, remember all those hours of editing that
I spend on the podcast Bob.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
Making you sound really good Bob which is not
easy to do.
I understand that yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
So, friends.
However, if you which is noteasy to do I understand that.
So, friends.
However, if you are after the12 case of Christmas medals,
slash ornaments, slash artwork,registration is August 19th.
Now, I don't plan to do a Zoomcall for this registration.
I do think we have a Christmasvirtual chat set up already.

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If we don't, I'll make surethat we get one.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Well, if I do decide to do it, maybe I'll pull a Jack
and I'll go live on Instagramand give out my credit card
information.

Speaker 9 (28:40):
I didn't give it all.
You only got the first sixdigits or something.
Caution runners.
The topic is about to changeright now.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Hey, listen, we also heard from Disney about the
event that's coming up in fourweeks.
We got the race weekend guidefor the Halloween race weekend.
Now none of us are going to bethere, but we still wanted to
take a look at the guide.
The courses look terrific.
That's one thing you can't takeaway from Disneyland is and
it's just geography the factthat those two parks are so

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close to one another that thecourses out there are
outstanding.
But let's talk through theguide here real quickly.

Speaker 9 (29:24):
So for the first event of the weekend, it's going
to be yoga at Disneyland.
When you guys head over to theparks over in Disneyland, a
security opens at 3.30 in themorning, so just a heads up on
that and check-in begins at 3.45.
So just as a reminder, though,that the check-in closes at 4.45

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am, so 15 minutes before theactual event starts at 5 am.
So yeah, it should be a fun,relaxing morning before a very
spooktacular weekend.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
And then, after you say namaste to the Evil Queen
because I think that's the themeof the yoga for this particular
weekend it's then time to headto the expo.
The expo, once again, is takingplace at the Disneyland hotel
exhibit hall.
Uh, on the first day, the hourson uh again, this is Thursday,

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september 4th are from 10 AMuntil 8 PM.
A couple of caveats here ClubRun Disney Platinum gets early
shopping opportunities beginningat 7 am and Gold Club Run
Disney members get earlyshopping access at 7.45 am.

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The expo is then also open onFriday, september 5th, from noon
until 8pm and then the last day, saturday September 6th, from
10am to 4pm.
A virtual queue will be used onthe first day of the expo for
both the Run Disney merch andthe Brooks Footwear Village.

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You can access the virtualqueue via the disneyland app.
Starting at 7 am, pacific time,your bib pickup will occur on
the upper level of the expoagain, that's, within within the
disneyland hotel exhibit hall,and then the run disney merch,
the vendors and the shirt pickupwill be on the lower level.

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The Brooks Footwear Village isactually going to be outside,
just outside of the expo, and ifyou go in the event guide,
there's a very nice picture of amap showing you how to get from
the exhibit hall out to theparking lot.
It's taking place in the SouthLilo parking lot and it's going

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to be the exact same process asit was during Springtime
Surprise.
There will be a special areawhere maybe you've never run in
a Brooks shoe before, or maybethe model's slightly different
and you want to test out.
You can test out generic modelsof the shoes.
Uh, that's not a requirementthough, by any means whatsoever,

(32:07):
but then you'll get your orderslip marking down you're
indicating the, the size, thestyle, the width and the
quantity, and then you'll handthat form in at the village and
they will give you your shoes.
There are no discounts for this.
Uh, you know it's.
You know you won't be able touse like a magic key discount or
or DVC or anything like that,and I believe you can't use your

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Magic Band or a Disney giftcard for that specific purchase
when it comes to the shoes.
But now, with the Run Disneymerch inside there, you'll be
able to use some of yourdiscounts.
But that's the skinny on theexpo.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
We're expecting new designs for the shoes.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yes, they have not been.
They have not been released yet, but Brooks did confirm that
there will be brand new designsfor not only Halloween, but also
for Wine and Dine as well.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
And one more comment.
Let me stick it in here becauseit seems like a good place.
We were talking about times andevents and all that.
Let me remind our friends whoare going to be there that there
will be a Rise and Run meetupat 2 pm on Saturday in the
picnic area directly outside ofDisneyland.

Speaker 10 (33:13):
Park and something else.
Remember that there is no bustransportation like there is
from your resort, so you're allon your own to get to these
places.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
That's because they're all so close together.
Well, it depends on what hotelyou're staying on your own to
get to these places?

Speaker 10 (33:26):
No, yeah, that's because they're all so close
together.
Well, it depends what hotelyou're staying at, though that's
what I'm saying, yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
If you're off, if you're off property, yeah, yeah.
Just remember that Right.
Well, let's talk about thecourses themselves.
Let's start with the 5k.

Speaker 8 (33:52):
So for the 5k it looks pretty identical to the
course that we've run beforestarting in Disneyland, working
your way around through theparks and ending through Disney
California Adventure at PixarPier.
Security will open at 3.30 am.
The corrals will open at 4 am.
Gear check will occur at theEsplanade in between Disneyland
and DCA.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
For the 10K, same thing again.
Security in the corrals open upat 3.30 am, but gear check is
available in the family reunionarea.
This course.
This is basically probablyalmost bang for your buck,
park-wise.
This hits every piece of thepark.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Oh, that's a great course, yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:24):
Yeah, just this way.
You go in through CaliforniaAdventure first, exit through
the Esplanade, enter toDisneyland Park, back out to the
parking lot where you started.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
And we should note, though, that this start area for
the 10K and for the halfmarathon is on Disney Way, which
is, I believe, across thestreet from DCA, in a large
parking lot area right, bob, itis.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
It's really an excellent starting area.
It really is.
The 5K starts in DisneylandPark, as Lexi just said, but the
next two are going to start inthat parking lot, which is the
reason these are the last twofor a while, because they're
going to be construction in thatarea coming up.
But yeah, the 5K and 10K arejust great courses.

Speaker 9 (35:18):
They really are.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
I mean, they are chock full of Disney.
You can't do that at WaltDisney World, they're too far
apart.
But with these two just rightacross from one another, they're
great and a lot of fun.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
Also I guess that's on the same day they're having
the kids races.
That takes place Saturdaymorning in the family reunion
area.
Registered runners shouldreport their specific zones at
the following times Registeredrunners should report their
specific zones at the followingtimes no-transcript Diaper dash.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
I'd love to see the paces of a nine month old doing
a Diaper Dash.
That'd be interesting to see.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
I hope they have good weather for this.

Speaker 10 (36:13):
I really do.
Somebody should be dressed asJack Jack for the 12 month old.
There we go.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
It was mighty hot last year, but I hope they have
nice weather for this.
Alright, what about the half?

Speaker 11 (36:24):
For the half.
Security opens at 3.30 am, aswell as the corrals, and gear
check is available in the familyreunion area.
This looks like a great course.
You don't get to go through thestadium this time, but you get
almost six miles in the parks,which is more than you've gotten
previously for the halfmarathons, and you do still get

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some Anaheim running time, whichis great as well.
So I look forward to hearingabout it.
Looks like a great course.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
I will say talk about them designing a course based
off of the events of last year,because the minute I saw this
course map I was like this thingis specifically designed that
if it gets super hot they havemultiple places where they can
cut it off and loop people backvery, very easily.

(37:15):
I mean, the area that stood outto me was that area, probably
right at, I'd say, mile sevenand a half.
That way you probably could justkeep going, and then that loops
you right back to the finishline and to the family reunion
area.
So really good job on WestCoast Run, disney's part for

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designing a course to have lotsand lots of contingency plans.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Well, if you're going out there, we wish you the best
of luck.
We hope you have great weather.
It was super hot last year,although the races were not bad.
I didn't even have trouble withthe half.
Again, I'm used to training inwarm weather, but it was okay
early in the morning.
In fact, it was very pleasantearly in the morning.
However, I hope you have evenbetter weather this year.

(38:02):
I hope you enjoy it.
We look forward to hearing allabout it and especially
especially if this is your firstrun Disney event.
I just hope.
Four weeks away, I'm sureyou're excited.
I know I would be too CautionRunners.
Change of topic ahead.
We continue our monthly charitybib visits.

(38:26):
For August we're visiting withrepresentatives from the
National Marrow Donor Program.
Chloe and Abby are here with usand I'm going to let them
introduce themselves to you.

Speaker 14 (38:40):
Hello, my name is Chloe Walbrook and I am the
Community Fundraising and EventsManager at NMDP.
I lead our NMDP EnduranceProgram, which is our portfolio
of races and rides that we offerto supporters to participate in
and fundraise for us.
So we give people anopportunity to combine their

(39:03):
love of running with their lovefor our organization and
supporting our life-savingmission.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Very good.
Hi, my name is Abby and I am anew employee at NMDP.
I'm a donor engagementspecialist, so I call donors who
are a good match for patientsin need of a stem cell
transplant or a bone marrowtransplant and help them to kind
of alleviate any concerns andinspire them to be that match.

(39:30):
So I have a special place in myheart for NMDP and running, as
my history has been tied to bothof them, but I'll talk about
that here soon.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing about that,
abby.
But before we get into thatspecifics, I'm not sure all of
our friends are familiar withthe National Marrow Donor
Program, what it entails andwhat it does.
Can you help us with thatplease?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, of course.
So NMDP, formerly Be the Matchor National Marrow Donor Program
, is a non-profit dedicated tomatching donors to patients with
a blood cancer or blood disease.
Our mission is to save livesthrough cell therapy and create
a world where every person,regardless of social or ethnic
background, has access to a cure.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
It's quite a process.
It's quite a process, chloe.
This is unique in that we'regoing to talk about bibs, and I
want to talk about fundraisingbibs, but NMDP.
I want another important partof this to be discussed, and
that is this is something thatour friends who are listening
can actually get involved in,can't they?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, of course.
So it's a pretty simple processto join our registry.
You can go to our website andyou can order a cheek swab kit
to your home, essentially, andwithin that kit there's a large
Q-tip, two large Q-tips, andyou'll just swab the inside of
your cheek and within your cheekcells.
There are things called HLAtypes within there, so we can

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identify 8 out of 12 of thoseHLA types that are found in our
blood and that helps us to matchyou to a patient in need.
So if we deem that there'sfurther testing needed because
you could be a potential bestmatch to save the life of a
blood cancer patient, then wewould call you.
I would call you as a donorengagement specialist and make

(41:28):
sure it's healthy and safe foryou and the patient and make
sure that you're in a place inyour life where this is still
suitable, because we could callyou one month after you sign up
or we could call you 15 yearsafter you sign up.
So we would just call and gothrough questions with you, make
sure that everything that youwant to know about this process
is fully understood beforeyou're committing.

(41:49):
But whenever we call you, we'rereally hoping for you to answer
and say yes to moving forward,because you really could be the
only match for that patient inneed.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
And while it's not uncommon for organizations to
talk about, for instance,donating blood, saving a life,
all that's very valid, but thisis literally true.
This is literally if you arecalled as a match, you may be
one of a very few people on thisplanet who can save that

(42:20):
person's life.
We have a friend who listens tothe podcast, who I know has
been through this and is with usnow because of that, and, abby,
you're here because of theprogram.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I am, I am and I'm so grateful for it.
Um, all the money in the worldwouldn't have saved me, but one
anonymous donor did.
One anonymous donor cured mycancer.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
So yeah, Would you like to hear a bit about it.
Tell us about it.
Yes, please.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah.
So in 2022, I had just turned30 years old, had my 30th
birthday, and I startedexperiencing a range of strange
symptoms, but the one thatfinally brought me to the ER was
brief episodes of visionblackouts.
So at the hospital, they ran abrain MRI and they did blood

(43:12):
work.
The brain MRI came back normal,but the blood work did not.
So I was immediately diagnosedwith leukemia and I was told
that I was in blast crisis,which is a stage where the blood
is flooded with immature whiteblood cells that don't function
properly, and this puts me at ahigh risk for infection, which

(43:33):
is actually one of the biggestdangers of some types of blood
cancers is infection.
So my life was completelyturned upside down.
I was admitted to the hospitaland I got my first of nine bone
marrow biopsies bedside, andthis helps them to determine
what specific type of bloodcancer I had, which ultimately

(43:54):
turned out to be ALL acutelymphoblastic leukemia, and I
unfortunately also had aPhiladelphia mutation, which was
a deadly mutation about 10years ago.
So, thanks to decades ofresearch, this is no longer
fatal upon diagnosis.
Leading up to my cancerdiagnosis, I was an athlete all

(44:16):
of my life, running andweightlifting, two-time
marathoner, four-time halfmarathoner.
So you can imagine the starkcontrast.
Whenever I was put and when Iwas having my first overnight
stay at a hospital while havingthat biopsy, getting a central
line put in, and staying in thehospital for an entire month

(44:37):
while I began chemo, mytransplant room was in a section
of the hospital with signseverywhere labeling it as bone
marrow transplant unit.
I assured every single personwho came to visit me that those
weren't for me.
I wasn't having one of those.
They just didn't have a roomfor me on the right floor
because that's what I wasoriginally told.
But until my doctor told methat she did in fact recommend

(45:01):
this as the best chance ofpreventing relapse.
So I came to terms with this asthe best treatment option of
having a stem cell transplantand I began receiving mail from
NMDP when we were known as Bethe Match.
I still remember the doctor'sappointment when I was told that
I had two matches available.
One was a female in the US andone was a male overseas.

(45:25):
But I did understand that theycould drop out at any time and
further testing was needed tomake sure that my donor would be
the best match for me.
I just really hoped that one ofthese two would be the cure to
my cancer.
After each new medication, a newbone marrow biopsy was needed
to reevaluate the effectivenessof the medications and course

(45:45):
correct as needed.
I received an oral chemo pillwhich treated the mutation.
I did three rounds of inpatientIV chemo and a month of
continuous immunotherapy, butwithin this time my doctor had
chosen the young male donor fromoverseas and he was committed
to donating.
So I definitely felt a hugesigh of relief just having that

(46:11):
cure Like cancer was literallycured in that time for me.
So yeah, so finally, after ninelong months of cancer treatment
and hurdles, on April 4th of2023, I received my stem cell
transplant from this anonymousmale donor.

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For a transplant to be effective, I received high dose, high
potency chemotherapy prior toreceiving the new healthy cells,
and then I received additionalchemo after the transplant to
possibly prevent GVHD, which isgraft versus host disease.
This is a really common lifelongside effects for transplant

(46:52):
patients, where the new cellsand the old cells attack each
other, but thankfully, with newtreatment options, this is
becoming more and more subtle.
For most transplant patients,the transplant process requires
a month or more in the hospitalto monitor symptoms, with daily
blood work and medicationadjustments as needed.
We as recipients are at a veryhigh risk of infection because

(47:14):
of our neutrophil count, whichprotects us from infection.
It actually goes to zero afterall of that chemo and we just
have to kind of survive our wayfor about seven to 10 days
before the engraftment of thenew cells can begin.
So with that comes fevers, bodyrashes, gi issues, vomiting,
nausea.
Those are just some commonsymptoms, and I actually lost

(47:37):
all of my taste buds for sixmonths, so it was really hard to
crave a certain food and put itin my mouth and have just no
flavor.
In addition to this, I wasnauseous for 24, seven, for
about 18 months after transplant.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
That one was really hard.
Um, it was really hard.
Um, I lost a ton of muscle, butI still did like gentle yoga
flows throughout treatment totry to keep blood circulating
and keep my mind at peace, butI'm talking really big muscle
loss, like my calves would burnif I walked around the grocery
store too fast.
So my transplant was in Aprilof 2023.

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And then in January of 2024, Isigned up for a local 5k by
myself and I decided to try torun it.
So that was maybe nine monthsafter transplant and my body
felt so heavy and my breathingwas labored and my heart rate
was through the roof.
But I finished and I was soproud.

(48:38):
I was so proud.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, and so after this, I joined a local running
club and I didn't always havegood days on those runs, but I
kept showing up, and that's allyou can do whenever you have a
desired outcome is just keepshowing up and make the choice.
That would be one step closerto who you want to be and make
it happen, Because I don't know.

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So one day I was searching onNMDP's website on how to make an
impact, because I was nowrunning and kind of growing my
fitness and trying to like feelbetter about myself, but the
universe didn't feel balanced atall to me.
I felt like everybody gaveeverything to me to survive and
I needed to give back.
So, um I I found first I founda swabbing table opportunity for

(49:30):
volunteering at NMDP.
I found, first I found aswabbing table opportunity for
volunteering at NMDP.
But I wanted more and I foundthat NMDP endurance community
after that.
So this was a way that I couldrun a race while fundraising for
a cause that saved my life andI was like, okay, sign me up,
that sounds great.
So I chose the half marathondistance because I knew that I

(49:51):
loved a challenge and I coulddefinitely raise about $1,000
for a charity that I loved.
I posted this on social mediato raise money, and I found it
just as inspiring to share aboutthis mission to fundraise while
training, to make sure that Iwore this charity bib with pride
.
So I ran the DisneylandHalloween half marathon.
Actually, yeah, and that wastheir first one, right?
So I ran the DisneylandHalloween half marathon actually

(50:12):
yeah, and that was their firstone, right.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Yeah, it was.
It was their first one back inquite a while.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, so that was.
That was a really big momentfor me.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Oh, it was Abby.
Look, thanks for sharing thatstory.
This is a different charity.
We are going to talk aboutcharity bibs.
We are going to talk aboutcharity bibs.
We are going to talk about runDisney.
But, friends, this is somethingthat you can do.
Uh, there is a an upper agelimit to this.
I believe it's 60.

(50:43):
It used to be 60, I believe.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
So you can join the registry between 18 and 40 years
old.
However, once you are in theregistry between that age range,
you can be called to donate allthe way up till 62.
But you just can't join ifyou're over 40 at this time, but
if everybody knows somebodywho's within that range.
So if you have kids in collegeor neighborhood kids, encourage

(51:08):
them, if they're between 18 and40 and in good health in general
, to join the registry just byordering that cheek swab kit
online.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah, at least look into it.
I will candidly tell my friendshere that I did this years back
.
I got on the registry, I stayedon the registry until I was 62,
I guess, and then youautomatically come off.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, you retire.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
I never was called and I think that's probably
going to be the case for mostpeople.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
You don't get called because the probability of a
match is very low, but again,when you hit that match, you are
literally somebody's savior andyou could help somebody just
like Abby savior and you couldhelp somebody just like Abby,
and something really beautifulabout finding my stem cell donor

(51:57):
is that he not only saved mylife, but now that I work at
NMDP, engaging with donors inhopes of inspiring them and
helping them to alleviate anybarriers through NMDP's
extensive donor supportresources, my donor also had a
hand in every single life that Ihelped to save while working
here, and that's just the mostprofound example of a butterfly
effect is that the donors thathelp save the lives of blood

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cancer patients have thepotential to save multiple lives
based on the trajectory of thelife of whom they save.
So the life-saving cure iswithin them, and the power to do
that is just a yes away when wecall that's it.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
It's awesome.
Thank you for sharing all that.
All right, let's get back tothe Disney stuff.
How long has N and I alwayswant to get it backwards.
I always would say NDMP.
How long has NMDP been involvedwith Run Disney, please?

Speaker 14 (52:55):
NMDP been involved with Run Disney, please.
Nmdp has been a participatingcharity of Run Disney since 2023
.
So it's a relatively newpartnership, but since 2023, our
Run Disney runners have raisedover $271,000 to support NMDP
Awesome, so it's been a really,really awesome partnership.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Yeah, it has.
Now we've already told ourfriends how they can look into
getting on the registry by goingto the nmdporg website.
Now, if they're looking tosecure a charity bib for an
upcoming event, how do they dothat?

Speaker 14 (53:30):
Yeah, so you can go to nmdporg and search Endurance
and we'll pop up.
Otherwise, if you Google NMDPEndurance, we'll be the first
link that pops up.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Okay.
Do you know if you have bibsavailable for upcoming events?

Speaker 14 (53:47):
Yes, we do have bibs available for all distances at
Wine and Dine Half MarathonWeekend, Walt Disney World
Marathon Weekend, DisneyPrincess Half Marathon Weekend
and, lastly, Springtime SurpriseWeekend.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Well, that covers the bases at Disney World.

Speaker 14 (54:06):
Yep, and we do have at least a couple of the
challenge bibs available as well.
I know those are popular too.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
Well, there you go, friends, they're out there so
you can check into that.
That'll be listed.
Also, we maintain a spreadsheetwith contacts for our friends
to look into getting bibs Ingeneral.
If you had some suggestions forour friends for fundraising,

(54:35):
what?

Speaker 14 (54:36):
would they be?
I love this question and I feellike Abby will probably have
some good tips as well.
But first, I think, reallyhighlighting your personal
connection to the mission.
By sharing that personal story,your potential supporters are,
I think, going to be moremotivated to support.
So that can look like updatingyour fundraising page with that

(54:59):
story and personal photos.
And then, when you reach out topeople, really highlighting how
you're connected to the mission, to the mission.
So I think that's a big one.
I think something else that weencourage our fundraisers to use
is giving handles.
So these are dollar amountsthat show the connection between

(55:19):
the donation and the outcomesand can show your supporters the
direct impact that their giftcan make.
So, for example, we use the $25amount.
So this covers one clinic visitco-pay for a transplant patient
.
So if you use that in your ask,it just really shows that

(55:40):
impact to your potentialsupporter and then they'll be
more likely to give.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Abby any suggestions.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I thought those were pretty great.
Yeah, I think tying the missioninto every dollar is really
important, so that they canimagine exactly how those funds
are being used.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Without question, what we hear most often from the
charities and from our friendswho raise money for charity is
that the more that you canconnect to that charity, the
more it means to you.
The more it means to you, theeasier it becomes for you to ask

(56:18):
for funds.
Now one thing I left out, mybad.
I always ask what are thefundraising requirements, please
, to secure a bib?

Speaker 14 (56:23):
The fundraising requirements, just starting with
the 5k as a baseline, is $500.
And then it goes up from thereand kind of the maximum is 2600.
And that is for the dopeychallenge.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Dopey challenge.
Yeah yeah, 500 is actuallybelow the median, I think for
most.
Not that you should change it.
I'm just telling you that's agood, that's a good deal.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
One thing I wanted to add about this experience, if
that's okay, is just that byjoining this mission of having a
charity bib within NMDP, theyprovided a shirt for me as a
runner and what was cool is Iwore it to bib pickup and I was
able to identify another charityrunner and we were able to
connect and kind of talk aboutour connection to this mission

(57:13):
and what our fundraising waslike and it felt pretty cool to
see someone at a race withthousands of people and get to
know someone who can reallyidentify with this purpose of
fundraising.
So that was special too.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
It is Chloe.
You were telling me one morething about a benefit for coming
through this charity in termsof the registration fee.

Speaker 14 (57:34):
Yes, so once you're registered to run for NMDP, your
spot is guaranteed and paid for, so you do not have to worry
about the registration costs andrather you can really focus on
the fundraising commitment.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
So if you meet your fundraising goal, that also
covers that goal, covers thecost of the bib, correct, pretty
cool.
That's a good selling point, myfriends, that's a good one.
Yes.
Hey, quick off script question.
Any chance we'll see either ofyou at Walt Disney World at a
future run?

Speaker 14 (58:08):
I'm planning to be there, yeah, just representing,
um.
We're going to have it's a newoffering for charities a table
at the expo, great, yeah.
So we will be there for ourwine and dine, um, and then for
the rest of the events.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
That's great, no, they had it.
It is cool.
Well, I look forward to seeingyou there, yeah.
I look for you.
How far away are we?
It's not too far.
This was fun.
Chloe and Abby, thank you forjoining us.
I hope we can help the NMDP outand I hope our friends look for

(58:46):
you for Charity Bibs, and Ialso hope some of our friends
look into registering to what weused to call be the match, but
to uh, to be a genuine, bonafidelifesaver.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Thank you so much, Bob.
This was fun.
Thank you, Bob.
Caution runners.
The topic is about to changeright now.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
I know I emphasized it a couple of times during that
interview, but seriously giveserious consideration, not only,
of course, to using NMDP for abib that's a great idea but
think about enrolling.
Just give it some consideration.

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The enrollment is not difficult.
It's much easier than it wasyears and years ago and by golly
, if you're ever picked, youwill have the satisfaction of
knowing that you saved anotherhuman being's life.

Speaker 10 (59:40):
Well, Bob, that's a great story, because 16 years
ago my mother got a stem celltransplant and she's still here.
So if without that she probablywouldn't be here, right?

Speaker 6 (59:51):
now.
No, it's miraculous, john.
It's great.
It's a wonderful story.
I'm super glad to hear that.
That's exciting.
It's miraculous.
We know our buddy Boyd up inCanada.
We heard what a compellingstory Abby had to tell.
So think about it.
As I think I mentioned in theconversation I registered many

(01:00:11):
years ago, never got called, butI'm kind of disappointed.
All right, let's move on.
Hey, I see a lot of our friendshave purchased the Aliens shirt
for the Walt Disney World 5KMarathon weekend the Walt Disney
World 5K Marathon Weekend.
That is on sale at you, postedto the top of the Facebook group

(01:00:36):
page there in the featuredsection.
That's still available.
Great looking shirt.
Hey, I heard from our friend Rob, who is a big help on the race
report, the report that we thefile that we keep in the
Facebook group report, thereport that we the file that we
keep in the Facebook group.
And you know, with Run Disneyseason coming up, the Run Disney

(01:00:59):
weekend roll call is a big dealhere at the Rise and Run
podcast and our numbers are down.
So if you're doing a run Disneyrace, go ahead.
You can find that.
That report is pinned to thefeatured section.
Go up there to the top and youcan find it on your phone too,

(01:01:20):
although I think it's a littletougher to update on your phone.
But go ahead, you can add yourname to the report or, if you
just put a note in there, justput a comment and tell me that
you're doing it.
Either I'll add you or Rob willadd you and we'll get the race
report filled out and the rollcall will take us a good 30, 40

(01:01:41):
minutes, as it has in the past.
One last thing.
One last thing before we get tothe race report itself Fantasy
football.
That's also in our featuredsection on the Facebook group
page.
As of this afternoon, we had 33people who said they were
interested.
Yeah, so now it looks like Ineed an even number.

(01:02:02):
We need an even number.
It's rough to have an oddnumber in a league because you'd
have to have a buy every week,but I think I guess we could
work that out too.
You'd have to have a buy everyweek, but I guess we could work
that out too.
But the way it breaks downlooks like three leagues at this
point, and we could still getmore.
At least one of them will be abragging rights only league, and

(01:02:25):
then we can look at how youasked for the entry fees for the
other two, so expect to haveone freebie and two pay as you
go.
Neither one of them are a lot ofmoney, so I need to cut that
off.
Probably if I'm going to givethe commissioners time to set up

(01:02:46):
their drafts and all that, Iprobably need to cut that off
and all that I probably need tocut that off, probably a week
from now, being a week from whenthis podcast airs.
So next Thursday, next Thursdaynight, I think we'll need to
cut that off so that we can goahead and schedule the drafts
for those leagues.

(01:03:06):
I hope we have a good time.
It's just an idea.
We'll see how it works thisyear.
If it works out great well, Iwill do it again.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Bob, I already thought of my team name.
I'm very excited.
Do you want to share it now?
Oh, I do want to share it nowso that way no one else steals
it Okay.
Inner.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Excellence, inner Excellence.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
Stolen, stolen excellence Stolen.

Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
My profile picture is just going to be AJ Brown
sitting on the bench readingthat book.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Oh, I got you.
I got you.
It took me a second there.
I've had a team name that I'veused for years in fantasy sports
and I think it's appropriate.
I think it'll work here.
I've been the pigs in space.
Okay to Pigs in Space, okay,pigs in Space.
There's a story behind that andI'll wait a week or two before

(01:03:59):
I share it.
Taking a look ahead, friendsNext week, as we mentioned at
the top, brad and Maggie will bewith us.
Talk about the cruise, talkabout what's going on at Disney
and what's coming up for yeah,for lodging reservations, et
cetera for the races in the raceseason.

(01:04:20):
Our friend Mark Lane-Holbert isgoing to come back and join us.
Mark did a stint as a runner'sguide for a blind runner at the
Boston Marathon.
He's going to talk about that,and he's going to talk a little
bit about a book that he'sworking on.
And now, please stand clear ofthe door.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
It's time for a race report Por favor, manténganse
alejados de las puertas.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
The race report is sponsored by our friend Thomas
Stokes.
Stokes Metabolic Training.
Stokesfit slash rise and runcoaching is the website.
We're more than halfway throughTom's summer challenge.
How's it going for you guys?
I know a bunch of you here aredoing it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
I think it's going pretty well.
I mean, I kind of like theprogram he's got me going on
with this year, where it'salmost like a three-day split.
It's a push day, a leg day anda pull day.
So where before he was doingalmost a full body, this one I
enjoy a little bit more.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Well, it's a good program and if you can avail
yourself of his Zoom calls, hehas them a couple nights a week,
I think.
He always posts the Zoom callin the link that you have on
your application, so they'regood to join.
Tom knows what he's doing, he'sa good guy and he's fun to be
around and I appreciate what hedoes for us and for the running

(01:05:54):
community.
All right, let's take a look atthe races.
We had one on Thursday againthis week it was in Dublin the
Dublin Irish Festival 5K.
That's right.
Dublin, ohio.
Kayla and Austin were there,really, happy for the cooler
weather, enjoyed the free beerafterwards.

(01:06:16):
We had a race on Friday, theTCRC Leftovers Fun Run in
Johnson City.
No, not Tennessee, new York,steve did it.
This was leftover swag fromlocal races.
You've seen leftover runsbefore, I suspect, but this one
was interesting.
I'd not seen this kind offormat before.

(01:06:36):
It's in a local park, it's aquarter mile walking track and
after each lap you could go bythe tables and take something
from the table until everythingthere was gone.
So what happens is you do onelap, you can take one thing.
When you finish lap number two,you can take two things, and if

(01:06:56):
you do three et cetera untilthey're all picked out.

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
It's kind of like the 12 days of Christmas.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Bob.
Yeah, that's right.
So that's how it worked.
Steve had a good time with thatone.
Let's move to Saturday and thebig event the Loopy Looper Relay
Ultramarathon in Pensacola, newJersey.
Rise and Run and Will Run For,teamed up to field three relay

(01:07:25):
teams.
So in the race report spotlightthis week we visit with now
you've already said hi to Gregand Jack, hi.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
Bob first time long time.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
But also with us who participated in this relay.
We have Allie without an E.
Hello, hey, allie.
Tom, hello, good to see you,tom, who's your buddy there.
Tom on screen, who our friendscan't see.

Speaker 13 (01:07:53):
This is our dog, Indiana Bones.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
The archaeologist.

Speaker 13 (01:07:58):
He is a doctor of archaeology.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
One and the same, one of the great dog names of all
time.
I got to agree, and Brandy'swith us too.
Hey, bob, hiya, brandy, it'sgreat to see all of you.
Man, I'm going to pretty muchsit back and let you guys go on
this one, but wow, it lookedgreat.
Looked like you had greatweather, looked like you had a
good time.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
We are anxious to hear about it.
Well, I know Tom and I don'tagree on a lot, because we're
always butting heads and we'realways in competition with one
another, whether that's podcastnumbers or just handsomely good
looks.
It's fair.
But I I think that I think theone thing that we can all agree
on is that our friend aaron, whowe ran this race in honor of in
in in memory of, called in somemajor, major favors for us and
we had amazing, amazing weather,I mean compared to to last year

(01:08:59):
when last year.
Yeah, we had temperatures in the90s, we had dew points in the
mid 70s, we had a torrentialthunderstorm and lightning hit
at the 12-hour mark when we wereall trying to do a 24-hour
relay and we all just gotmentally sucked dry that we just

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like packed it up around like10 pm, I think.
This year the weather barelyhit 80 degrees.
Wow, there was a breeze, we hadshade, shade and and in
probably the warmest part of theday we had a lot of cloud cover

(01:09:42):
and not many favors for us.
That I think it led, I meangreat.
I think we were going to have agreat time regardless, but I
think that just put it up to thenext level.

(01:10:02):
Tom, what are your thoughts onthat?

Speaker 13 (01:10:05):
I fully agree.
I think what a difference ayear makes because, like, if the
dew point was a little bithigher, you know it was a sunny
day, but nobody got cranky,everybody stayed in like a very
positive place mentally.
Um, the camaraderie within our,our groups, was there, um,
everybody was cheering eachother on.

(01:10:26):
You know, erin is always goingto be there.
In spirit, she personifies thatkind of event.
But it was exactly what yousaid.
Somebody called in a favorbecause the weather made all the
difference in the world and wealso had a really good group.
There was no drama, everybodyvibed well together.

(01:10:49):
There was no drama, everybodyvibed well together.
Um, I and I didn't want tobring this up, but I, I found
out that between jack and allystover, um, one of them doesn't
like peanut butter and one ofthem doesn't like jelly, and,
and so even something asegregious as that couldn't dim,

(01:11:14):
couldn't cast a shadow on whatwas otherwise a very, very nice
day, didn't?
tear you apart?
Huh, it didn't.
It didn't.
Something like that reallycauses a riff.
But I don't know if you saw thepictures, but me and Greg
really came together.
I saw that we broke bread slashhoagie.
Yes, and it was just.
It was such a good event.

(01:11:40):
I was, like you know, diana wasmade a comment, like last year.
I was texting her all day.
This is awful.
I hate this.
I want to quit.
This is, you know, the worstthing.
And then she was like the textsI got today were this is so
cool, everybody's so happy, justa really good day overall.
I'll take my royalty check fromyour Patreon for saying all

(01:12:01):
this now it's in the mail, Tom.

Speaker 11 (01:12:02):
Awesome.
You briefly talked about thefood and how you were
commemorating our friend Aaron,but to those of our listeners
who might not know what thisevent is, why don't you tell
them?
Obviously, with Loopy Looperyou're doing a loop, but how
many loops were you guys goingfor and how long is the loop
that you're doing?

Speaker 13 (01:12:23):
So the race is put on by Endless Endurance.
That's the company that does it.
It is a looped ultra event, soyou could do a relay team for a
12 hour or a 24 hour event.
You could do a solo 12 hour, 24hour event and there's also a
hundred miler option, whichcomes out to be about 101 miles,

(01:12:44):
and you have 30 hours to dothat.
So our three relay teams alldid the 12-hour relay um, and I
think all the teams, each personcompleted four laps, which what
is that?
60 miles.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
I think, uh, just shy of.
I think one team had 13 loops,so I think that was 48, okay,
and then I think the other twoteams had 14 loops and that was
50, 52, something, 52 somethingokay, yeah, well, math is not my
strong suit, so it's okay, it'sokay, and then michael, who was

(01:13:23):
with us, um uh, he did 12 hour,he did a 12 hour race and I
think what did he get?
48 miles yeah, he got 13 loopsyeah yeah because his goal was
he wanted to get at least 12loops, because he wanted at
least 43 miles.
So one mile for every year thataaron was alive and I think.

(01:13:45):
I don't know if he knew thenumber of loops that he needed
to at the beginning, but Iremember math was difficult for
us even after loop one, and so Ipulled out my calculator and we
figured it out from there andhe absolutely crushed it.
I mean, he was already sittingdown relaxing by the time we all

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finished on our final loop.
But we'll get there in a littlebit.

Speaker 13 (01:14:11):
Yeah, and each loop is 3.75 miles.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Oh, okay, yep, Okay.
So you had three teams.
Now I got Greg Allie, jack, tomBrandy.
Here Were you all on the sameteam?
Nope, nope, nope, okay.
How many teams are representedhere?

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
All three teams are represented here.
Yep, yep.
Okay, how many teams arerepresented here?
All three.
I think I were a team.
I think all three teams Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
All three teams are represented here Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
Yep, okay, cool, any competition between the teams or
just fun.
Huh, just had to break it downthat way.

Speaker 13 (01:14:45):
I was running away from Allie Stover the entire
time.
I can understand that you werewere only running and I caught
you.
So, yeah, she caught me fairlyeasily too it took some work.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
It wasn't fairly easily, but you were a good bit
ahead of me.

Speaker 10 (01:15:01):
You got a nice head start okay, so I know you guys
are very creative.
What are the team names?

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
oh yes, so um the team that myself and ali were on
, we were for the matriarch,uh-huh because, because we we
know the difference between thetwo and uh if you don't
understand that reference, uh,we uh recommend you to go back
and listen to, uh, the firstepisode of Family Feud, where

(01:15:30):
Tom just gets a wee little bitconfused, but it's okay, we love
him for it.
Jack, what was your team name?

Speaker 9 (01:15:40):
Ohana.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Were you alone on that team, amongst the folks
here.

Speaker 9 (01:15:45):
No, I was with Brandy .

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Brandy okay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
We were team Ohana means family.
I decided to make it fun.
I would bring some leis andstitch posters and decor and
blow up air guitars Because youknow I'm not our most skilled
runner but I get a bigpersonality.
So we had a really good time,kind of taking silly pictures
with leis and air guitars andlittle stitch posters and also

(01:16:09):
just to heckle Tom and crew abit, I flew Disney cheese over
and I put out the cheese and thechips for Nacho Gates so I
could reenact that little familyfeud.
Because that family feudepisode was just one of the best
ever and meant so much to meand I just loved it.
So I was kind of there, kind offor comic relief, but I had a
fantastic time playing aroundwith the Ohana theme.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
Brady, you forgot to mention one thing that you
brought with you, and that is acertain poultry item.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
I got a squeezy rubber chicken that made the
most horrible screaming noiseand I was banging a cowbell and
squeezing a rubber chicken thewhole time.
It was fantastic.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
Sounds delightful.
We're missing one more teamname, though.

Speaker 13 (01:16:53):
Yeah, my team was Team Crush your Goals, and
that's a direct homage to Aaron.

Speaker 10 (01:17:01):
Yeah, no doubt.
And who else was on your team?
Because your team's a four andwe're missing a bunch of people
here.
So can you name the otherpeople on your team?

Speaker 13 (01:17:10):
So on my team it was Chrissy, it was Brianna and
Chris Stevens of Chris andViolet fame, if you know Chris
and Chris.
Actually, he had a differentoutfit for each loop and the,

(01:17:32):
the, the, the folks that wererunning the race kept commenting
that, hey, you're the bestdressed person out here.
So that was kind of nice.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Good, who else are we missing?
We want to make sure we we nameeverybody who participated.

Speaker 7 (01:17:45):
Absolutely yeah.
And then on, uh, my team withAllie, uh, we also had our
friend Tara.
And then she's not a devoutlistener, but one of my friends,
kat.
We used to work together when Iused to work in college
admissions and actually Bobknows Kat because the three of
us we ran Broad Street togethera couple years ago and she's

(01:18:07):
just slowly starting to get backinto running.
So I made sure to reach out toher and I was like hey, I got
this idea.
You want to be part of a loopedultra?
And she's like I'm terrified,but sure.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
That was her story at Broad Street too, and she did
great.

Speaker 7 (01:18:22):
Exactly and actually, since we're in the race report
here, I might as well get out ofthe way now.
Kat got a distance PR.
It was the furthest she everran before in her life.

Speaker 13 (01:18:34):
Awesome, that's so cool.

Speaker 7 (01:18:38):
And then on Jack and Brandy's team, we also had
Yvette and Diana as well too,okay, and I should mention this
as well too.
So, um, and then I'll, and Ishould.
I'll mention this as well too.
Um, our friend Robert was alsothere.
He wasn't able to be part ofone of our uh relay teams, uh,
but he I guess I had a workobligation earlier in the day

(01:19:01):
and and this is what what's wildis I think he got there around
like one o'clock.
I think he was doing, I thinkhe just signed up for like the
12 hour, um by himself, and bythe time they they shut down the
finish line for the 12 hour, healready ran a marathon.
He's, he's a speedy guy.
So he did.
Uh, he's quick.

(01:19:21):
Yeah, he, he did really reallywell.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
All right, some other highlights.
What were some food highlightsyou had?
You had plenty of time.
I mean one person would berunning while the rest were at
camp, right, one on each team.
Yes, so the rest were at.
I'm calling it camp, whereveryou set up.
What were some of the foodhighlights?
Jack, peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 9 (01:19:41):
I did have it, unfortunately, but no.
So someone said that there waslike grilled cheese out right
before my second loop and I waslike, oh, that sounds great,
probably shouldn't eat thatbefore I go and run.
Let me try and do that after mysecond loop, so I come back and
then they're all gone.
I was so upset the one thing Iwas actually looking forward to

(01:20:04):
after I got done they're allgone.
But then before I think it wasbefore our fourth one I was so
disappointed that they didn'thave any more that I went back
over later on thinking maybe,dude, they had some really
delicious pizza.
And I was just by myself and Ihad three slices in my hand and
I walked back to campus and saidthey may not have grilled

(01:20:25):
cheese, but they sure have somegood pizza.
And I brought everybody that wasover there back over to the
food area and I said I broughtfriends and we all grabbed more
pizza and it was really good.

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
You made friends.
I guarantee that that's goodBrandy.
Any other highlights?
Any other food highlights?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Not so much food highlights, but I would just
want to say this was the mostkind, supportive collaborative
group.
I mean, I knew some people andhad said hello to some people,
but like I didn't know Tom, likeI didn't know everybody, and
everyone was just so supportive.
And we had super serious guyslike Michael just killing it,
and then we had like people withme, with you know, squeezing a

(01:21:05):
rubber chicken, but it's likeeveryone had a blast and was
kind and supportive and weshared like oh, you have a fun
shirt, can I put it on?
And then Tom put on Ali's likeglitter spray on his head and we
called him Edward Cullen and welaughed at.
Buck, we did.
Everyone, just I mean trulyeveryone this was the most
supportive, kind race vibe I'veever had and I just couldn't

(01:21:28):
have asked for a better crew offriends to spend the day with.

Speaker 9 (01:21:38):
So it was just 100.
A good time, yeah, terrific.
No, I couldn't agree morehonestly.
This was probably the leaststressful race I've ever run.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Hold on, hold on.
Let's talk about stress for asecond.
Can we talk about your travelwoes?

Speaker 9 (01:21:46):
well, that was not during the race, let's be honest
.
Yeah, there was like literallythe weather was not great
Thursday night and then goinginto Friday I didn't even think
to go and look at the flightsand everything.
There are so many delays andcancellations throughout the
entire day for whatever in theNortheast.
I know they said they had badweather, that we had bad weather

(01:22:07):
.
And then I get to the airportand I I got to the airport at
one o'clock.
I didn't get on a flight till9.15.
Okay, and like the airport wasjust chaos.
I'd never seen so much red onthe board.
I mean, I was constantly tryingto figure out which flight to
switch to and where to fly into,but then anytime I went to go

(01:22:28):
look at to see if there was adifferent airport I could fly
into, they had cancellations.
And then I see this other pilotwalking by.
He's frustrated on his phonetrying to figure out where the
plane is.
He doesn't even know where it'swhere the plane is.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
He doesn't even know where it's.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
That's, that's pilot rule number one know where the
plane is like like it was justlike pure chaos and it was just
like by the time I got to theairport at allentown because I
was originally supposed to flyinto philadelphia I switched to
allentown, then I had to get arental car.
I only had 15 minutes to getoff the plane to get to the
rental car in time before thatclosed, and then I drove an hour
and 20 minutes to the hotel andI had like maybe four hours of

(01:23:06):
sleep and then it was race day.
So apparently there was 300flights that were either to
arrive or depart from Atlantathat were canceled and nearly
800 from Thursday into Fridayhave been delayed.

Speaker 10 (01:23:20):
Okay, that's from your FAA reporter, jack.
That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
No, it's from WSB TV Atlanta, which I've never
watched before.

Speaker 7 (01:23:29):
I do have two food highlights that I do want to
mention, because we werechatting about that before.
The first is did anybody havethe pickleballs?
Ew.
So I've had me, like my, mygrandmother always has, you know
, just those round cheese ballsin her house at all times and

(01:23:50):
and they're, they're quasiaddictive.
But I've tried to to phase thoseout in my life, but they had
the exact same thing, butpickled flavor pickles never
seen them great and I remember II had everyone at the aid
station cracking up because Ithink I grabbed like two just to
sample and I was like, oh dang,these are good.

(01:24:11):
And I just grabbed like a wholefistful and everyone had a good
laugh about that.
But then, also, speaking ofpickles, my favorite food item
that I had of the day was, um,there was a wawa run that was
made and, uh, tom, and I made adecision that I was, I was
waxing poetic about wawa's newdill pickle line of products, um

(01:24:36):
, that they had at their deliand we got a dill pickle ranch
hoagie and tom's like, oh, I'llsplit that with you because
obviously you know no one wantsto eat like a full, massive
hoagie while you know, runningfor 12 hours.
And we, we came up with thismutual understanding and loving

(01:24:56):
gesture of lady in the trampingthis delicious piece of food.
And let me tell you, when youlook into this man's eyes, it's
like seeing God and just allthese emotions just wash over
you and Tom.

(01:25:17):
It's a moment I'm never goingto forget in my life.

Speaker 13 (01:25:19):
I uh Greg, tom, it's a moment I'm never going to
forget in my life.
I uh, greg.
I'll be honest, I don't thinkI've recovered yet.
And.
I don't know how the laws workin New Jersey, but we might be
in like a civil sort ofrelationship now, like a

(01:25:40):
partnership or something.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
Well, this kind of makes sense, because this is the
location where you marriedMichael and.
Aaron.

Speaker 13 (01:25:50):
That's true.
That's true and which wasreally nice because we kind of
like, we kind of regaled folksof like what you know, the, the,
the years previous, you knowjust all of the times we had
there and then also, because wewere doing the daytime 12-hour,
we would tell people the kind ofstuff that you can expect after

(01:26:11):
hours at Cooper River Park,which is just the place is
absolutely insane.
But I think the legend isbigger than yeah, that's often
the case, but that's fine.
But yeah, Greg, you complete me.
Aww.

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
Allie, help us out.
Help us get out of this.
What were some of the otherhighlights, Like, for instance,
the race organizers?
Was there any activitiesplanned?
Were there anything else goingon?
Did you provide all your ownsupport or was there support
provided at the race?

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
I didn't notice them doing anything out of the
ordinary.
We brought so much food betweenthe three teams and drinks and
toilet paper and baby wipes andpaper towels, and I mean there
wasn't anything that we couldhave possibly needed that
somebody didn't have between thethree teams.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Okay, so yeah, that's a great answer, allie.
I just wanted to change thetopic.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
I think Greg and Allie should talk about how they
did their last lap, because itwas pretty impressive.
Slash, terrifying.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
Go ahead, Allie.
Tell the folks what you made medo so greg and I have weighted
vests.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Mine is a 20 pound weighted vest, I'm not sure what
yours, greg 30 30.
So, uh, we've both been.
When we're at home doing ouroff days of running or whatever,
we'll do some laps with ourweighted vests on at home.
And and I suggested bringingour weighted vests and I said
let's just do like a lap or twoaround the track.
Um, but I didn't really meanthe track, I meant the 3.75 mile

(01:27:51):
loop.
So we did our last loop withall three teams with our
weighted vests on.
So we did the 3.75 miles withour weighted vests.
We walked the last loop but wedid it, yeah good.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
And let me tell you, wearing a weighted vest after
running more than a halfmarathon, I had some loving,
loving choice words for myfriend Allie.
Again, they're still loving, butI still mean them.
But that is one of the nicerules that loopy looper does

(01:28:22):
have is that if you are part ofa relay team, throughout the
course of the day you have tohave or you know, you can only
have one person on the course ata time, but as a team, when
you're ready to do your finallap, they really do encourage
you to go out as a team and tobe able to cross the finish line
together.

(01:28:42):
So that is where the mathingthen got a little bit more
difficult.
It was probably within thatlike three, 30 hour or so.
We were trying to figure outokay, we don't have enough time
for every single person to getone more lap in.
So then I was trying to figureout okay, how many laps could we

(01:29:04):
get in?
Uh, and then, but I think allthree teams did the phenomenal
job of just figuring out thebest game plans and then that
way, because I think I was thelast person back.
So then, once I got back, Ithink I took like a just a quick
five minute break, refilled myhandheld water bottle, put on my
weighted vest Thanks, allie andall 12 of us went out and we

(01:29:26):
walked together as onecollective group and we crossed
the finish line as a collectivegroup, and that was a really,
really special moment.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Yeah, I saw the photos, it was great.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
It was truly such a beautiful day.
I mean, I will neverpurposefully normally run a
looped course.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Me neither Terrible.

Speaker 9 (01:29:49):
I just want to thank Greg for telling me about the
event and honestly doing it forErin.
I will run for Erin.
I'm glad that I did, because itwas a beautiful day with
beautiful weather.
You could just feel that shewas there.
I loved that our bibs each hadlike some kind of saying on the

(01:30:10):
back of it that someone hadwritten beforehand.
That's something I guess Erinwould say, and I just thought
that was really beautiful.
I didn't know that there was asaying on the back of my bib
until like maybe like rightbefore the fourth lap and I was
just like this is such abeautiful day and with beautiful
people and couldn't have askedfor a better race.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Yeah, I have to echo what Jack and Brandy said
earlier is I did frosty looperback in December, so I knew what
I was getting into and Istrongly disliked looped courses
.
But when Greg asked me to dothis, I was like, yep, I'm in.
I went into this knowing only ahandful of people and I came
out of it gaining several morefriends.

(01:30:49):
Some of the new people thatwere there talked to me like
we've been friends for years.
I was able to catch up withpeople that I hadn't seen in a
long time.
Jack.

Speaker 9 (01:30:58):
I talked to Allie for the whole last loop.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
It was the exception of Greg yelling at Allie saying
that he was mad at her kind ofchill hang out with friends day,
with some running thrown inbetween and I got to spend my
first entire loop with Tom, theother Stover, and then I caught
him on the second loop, so I gota loop and a half in with
Stover, I had to do one bymyself.

(01:31:21):
The whole day was absolutelyamazing and I would definitely
do it again.
Even though I still hate loops,I would definitely do it again
yeah same everybody doing itagain.

Speaker 9 (01:31:31):
Yeah, in the future yes, yeah, yes, for sure long
trip for you, brandy, comingback yep.

Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
I'm in awesome.

Speaker 10 (01:31:39):
it really sounds like you guys had a really good
time, because at about 1030Saturday night I got an
earthquake by my house, so youguys really, really rocked
Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
The day was awesome.
I was actually pretty sad whenthat seven o'clock rolled around
and we all had to pack up andgo our own ways, because we all
went different ways.
Then, yeah, it went by so fast.

Speaker 7 (01:32:00):
It did, it really did .
I was so surprised and I think,when I counted, I think between
everyone there, we representedseven different states, which I
thought was was really cool, butI I think the most appropriate
way to uh to bring thisspotlight to a close is uh tom,
could you grace us with ainspirational quote, uh, from

(01:32:24):
one of our great foundingfathers, benjamin franklin?

Speaker 13 (01:32:28):
you're putting me on the spot um well, benjamin
franklin was there.

Speaker 7 (01:32:32):
I mean, that's why I was, I was benjamin franklin,
was there.

Speaker 13 (01:32:35):
Uh, michael, um, gave me a porcelain statue of
founding father Benji is what Icall him.
You're pretty tight, huh.
Yeah, we're on.
Yeah, we have little nicknamesfor each other.
What's your nickname from him.
For some reason he calls meGreg, which I get that a lot.

(01:33:01):
There are some similaritiesbetween the two of you yeah,
people get them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Just get you guys confused who me and greg?

Speaker 9 (01:33:10):
well, tom, you're just gonna live forever because
you're a vampire he's evercalling sparkly yeah, he
sparkled throughout the wholeday.

Speaker 13 (01:33:24):
Okay.
So here's a quote from BenjaminFranklin Well done is better
than well said.
Okay, I'll buy it, we'll wrapon that, kids.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
We'll wrap on the discussion real quick.
When do we see you guys again?
Uh, disney, I'm assuming I'mgoing to see a bunch of you in
the fall at wine and dine, aliyou I will be at wine and dine,
but I'm doing the 5k at wine anddine and then we're flying up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Tara rachel and I are flying up for marine corps, but
I will see some of you at Birdand Hand.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Oh yes, Bird and Hand , Wine and Dine.
Good, Tom, what's up on yourdocket?

Speaker 13 (01:34:04):
There's a chance I'm going to do Bird and Hand.
I got the Marine Corps Marathonlater this year and there's
like a small army of us doingthat and then the next-.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
Small army doing the Marines.
Yeah, that won't go over.
Well, tom, no it won't.

Speaker 13 (01:34:22):
And then I think our next Disney race is springtime.
We're in for the challenge.

Speaker 9 (01:34:25):
Okay, Okay cool.
Oh, you're not at MarathonWeekend.

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
No, that's all right, that's all right, that's good.
I look forward to seeing you inApril.
That'd be great.
How about you, brandy?
Perfect season You're stuckwith me, Bob.
Wonderful, yeah, wonderfulSounds good, guys.
It sounds like it was great.
I'm glad you had a wonderfultime.

(01:34:49):
I know Aaron's happy that youdid it.
So thanks for joining us totell us all about it.
We'll see you later.
Thanks for having us All right.
Bidding farewell to New Jersey.
We continue on Saturday inAtlanta, georgia, for the
Cupcake Dash 5K that Lauren ran.
Great weather for August.
In Atlanta.
She started off by taking atwo-and-a-half-mile jog to

(01:35:12):
Piedmont Park.
That's where the 5K started.
She finished the 5K, which isall she was going for.
This is her first race comingback from injury.
Not a PR, that's fine.
That's probably smart, lauren.
You don't want to push too hardfirst time.
Back Proud nonetheless, as sheshould have been.

(01:35:32):
Cupcakes were definitely worthit.
Then she jogged the two and ahalf miles back to her car for a
total of eight miles onSaturday, which was on her
training schedule.
Good job.
In Chattanooga, tennessee, theBattle for Chattanooga Challenge
, this one's 4.7 miles.
It's a series that started lastNovember with a half marathon.

(01:35:55):
Then they had the ChickamaugaChase 15K in April.
Then Amanda did this one.
Beautiful locations, like ahistoric run through the
battlefield, great challenges,great support for the runners.
Now I'm going to guess Amanda'sdone this one before, because
4.7 is an unusual distance andif this was her first time at it

(01:36:15):
I think she'd have mentioned it.
So I put that great, put the PRbell away.
Now we'll save it.
Let's see what else we got here.
Let's see.
Let's go to the pinky part ofMichigan.
You know the pinky part ofMichigan.
If you ever asked somebody fromMichigan where they live,
they'll hold up a hand like amitten, because the state is

(01:36:37):
basically, except for the upperpeninsula, the state's basically
shaped like a mitten.
So this is in the pinky part.
It is in Port Oneida, the PortOneida Half Marathon in the
Sleeping Bear National Lakeshore.
Brian did it Race ran throughold farmsteads.
Really nice pictures on thisone.
Rolling Hells was one 500-footelevation gain in half a mile.

(01:37:01):
That's significant.
Even with that heart-stoppinghill, brian still managed a
2.09.5.
That's an excellent run and aproof of time.
Great job, brian.
Cary was in Chicago for the DimSum Vensum 10K.
That's a great name it is.
I like it.

(01:37:21):
I had to go slowly.
Cooler temps in Chicago, thatalways helps.
Great views along the lakefrontpath.
Carrie says she enjoyed thedragon dance performance before
the race and I saw some photosof that, and there were plenty
of refreshments to bring home.

Speaker 7 (01:37:41):
I will say I love running in Chicago because I
think, at least in the citiesthat I've traveled to, it's one
of the most, I think, accessibleand lengthy paths that you can
run on in a major metropolitancity.
I mean, depending on where youare, it might take a little bit
to get to the path, but onceyou're there it is gorgeous.

(01:38:01):
You got the water, soldierField is there, so you know if
the bears are playing.
You can always, you know, catchthe excitement of that.
It's such a great place.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
Been years and years since I've been there, greg, but
it does sound nice, and Garydescribed a fun run, so that
sounds good.
Let's move on to Sunday and goto the UK, indian Queens,
specifically the Indian Queenshalf marathon.
Ana did this one.
Now Ana filled out what Ithought was a great race report
and I'll quote her here.

(01:38:32):
She says some days it justdoesn't come together.
That is so true.
The wheels fell off at aboutmile six.
She just couldn't get her headin the right frame.
It was a case of just puttingone foot in front of the other
and proceeding to the finish.
Weather was a little warm andmuggy.
That didn't help.
Overall, crowd support wasthere.
Crowd marshals were veryhelpful.

(01:38:55):
Big shout out to them.
Now, to top it off, in additionto having some struggles, no
medals because they didn'tarrive on time, so they have to
get mailed to her.
But by golly, I credit Anna forthis report.
I think it's a great reportbecause friends are just going
to be days like that and if youcan continue and keep calm and

(01:39:18):
carry on.
Not that I'm stealing anythingfrom a UK race, but that's what
she did by golly and finished.
So, ana, good job, good job.
Let's go to Cascade Lakes,oregon, the Bridge of the Gods
half marathon.
Kayla and 13 of her friendsfrom North Dakota to Oregon all
got together to run this race.

(01:39:39):
Again from the photos anotherbeautiful event.
The race starts on theWashington side of the Columbia
River with a run over the Bridgeof the Gods to the Oregon side
and it finishes as anout-and-back on a paved trail.
Now, kayla finished faster thanshe expected, not a PR, but she

(01:40:00):
had a PR and fun.
Would recommend this one topretty much anyone.
This really really looked niceand the bonus on this half
marathon, very Walker friendlyhas a five hour.
In Cincinnati, ohio, carol,emmy and Julie had a little rise

(01:40:21):
and run meetup at the Runfordo5K, actually in Oakland, oakley.
Actually in Oakley, ohio, nearCincinnati, a race sponsored by
a local pizza chain.
The metal was a pizza slice.
Of course there's pizza.
Afterwards Emmy said that shehad some because she knew that's

(01:40:42):
what Allen would do.
Well, heck, I mean they'd havegiven Allen the entire pizza.

Speaker 10 (01:40:46):
You know that the one thing about the race report
file which is good about it isyou look at that thing.
So oh, I'm running the run forthe dough 5K.
Oh well, look you know, emmy'sgoing to be there, julie's going
to be there, carol's going tobe there.
This is where you can meet allyour other Rise and Run friends
or even have little mini meetups, which I think we've been

(01:41:09):
seeing across the board at otherraces, like we had at Loopy
Looper, the Run for the Dough.
It's just a great way to getyour name on that report and
find other friends out there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
John, you're right, and in fact and I'm not sure
I've talked about this before,but I'm not sure how many of our
friends know this that wholerace report thing predates this
podcast that goes back to theearly days of the Facebook group
that Alicia formed.

Speaker 11 (01:41:36):
I'm blanking out on names Alicia Run Disney
Motivational Team.

Speaker 6 (01:41:40):
That's the one R-D-M-T Team, that's the one
R-D-M-T Yep, that's the one.
But that's where that startedand the idea was exactly what
you're talking about, john, soyou could look there and say, oh
look, john's going to be atthis rate.
I'll have to look for him whenI get there.
So I appreciate the comment,john.
Thanks, let's continue.
Let's go to Leroy, or Leroy,illinois, for the Dawson Lake

(01:42:05):
Dash where Stephanie was runningStephanie's first three and a
half mile race.
So I may say you don't PR inthe summer but you still can,
right.
Age group fourth for Stephanieand her friend Sierra finished
age group first.

(01:42:26):
Nice job, beautiful scenery,rolling hills, really pretty
around Dawson Lake.
The start of the race was cooland trees provided some nice
shade, so that was a good event.
Stephanie wanted to shout outher friend again for completing
her first half marathon the daybefore at the oh golly Mahomet

(01:42:50):
Illinois half marathon.
I may have butchered that.
Nevertheless, sierra, here's aPR bell for you In Gloucester,
massachusetts.
Actually it's Rockport andGloucester.
Point to point here.
The Triple Threat Half Marathon.
Lance and Amy did it.
Beautiful run along the waterby some seaside homes, three

(01:43:11):
lighthouses along this route.
That's very cool.
Nearly all rolling hills on thecourse.
The course director might haveaccidentally stuck in about 300
yards of level run along thebeach there but got rid of that
pretty quickly.
No PRs Very happy with theirtimes.

(01:43:31):
See you at Bird and Hand.
We look forward to that.
That'll be great.
And at Disneyland on Sunday.
The Chalk Walk C-H-O-C, which isthe Children's Hospital of
Orange County in California.
A friend, allison, did this one.

(01:43:51):
Allison was telling us aboutthis on the Zoom call.
She did it with her family andfriends.
Alan and Grace were out there.
She saw them on the course.
Really pleasant walk throughthe parks.
Supp and Grace were out there.
She saw them on the course,really pleasant walk through the
parks supports the Children'sHospital.
You can still, if you'd like,you can still help Allison out
with her fundraiser by going tochockwalk C-H-O-C-W-A-L-Korg

(01:44:18):
slash Allison and she'll stilltake your donations for that
very worthy cause.
And that's it for the racereport for episode 202.
My friends and if you run youknow you are our friend we get
every week closer to seeing oneanother again.
Several of you will gettogether in four weeks.

(01:44:39):
The rest of us will be not toofar behind in October.
Almost forgot to mention thatthere is no Zoom call this week.
We'll get together again nextweek.
Keep the training going.
We're getting into the toughdays of the training for those
long January runs.

(01:44:59):
We'll talk about that more.
Meanwhile, have fun, keep thefaith, keep training, happy
running.

Speaker 7 (01:45:15):
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information about Run Disney andis in no way affiliated with
Run Disney or the Walt DisneyCompany.
Any information or advicediscussed on this podcast that
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Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
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