208: 2025 Bird In Hand Half Marathon Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hi Rise and Run family.
This is Mara from Wellington,florida.
I'm giving you a call after myfirst mile run post-baby.
Feels so good to be back outthere and hitting the road.
Can't wait to see everyone soon.
I'll be there for MarathonWeekend.
You're listening to the Riseand Run podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Mara with the intro.
First post-baby mile Prettycool, mara, thanks.
Welcome back.
Welcome back to the runningworld.
We'll see you in January andwelcome to you my friends.
Welcome to episode 208 of theRise and Run podcast.

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As always, we are delighted tobe sharing some time with you
this week.
I'm Bob and I'm here this weekwith Jack Hiya, with Alicia
Hello.
With Greg hey, hey, hey.
And with John hey, how youdoing?
Great, john.
John, thanks for asking.
I appreciate it.

(01:43):
It's just random whether you'reat the end or not.
You know that, john.
Thanks for asking.
I appreciate it.
It's just random whether you'reat the end or not.
You know that, john, I can'tignore the question if you're at
the end.
The answer is pretty muchalways going to be the same.
But hey, fun episode this week.
Friends, we put it off for aweek.
The bird in hand half marathonweekend.
We got some friends in to helpus on the recap.

(02:05):
Hope you enjoy listening to it.
Maybe, just maybe, it'll enticeyou to join us next year.
Wonderful race weekend.
In the race report spotlight,our friend Lauren did a
nighttime run in Vancouver,canada.
You can find out how she did.

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Speaker 6 (03:22):
slash rise and run podcast all right, you guys,
there is a massive.
I'm calling it massive becauseanytime a theme park in general
does a race, I get super excitedabout it.
And no, we are not talkingabout disney world, but a
massive announcement still, atleast I think so but it is the
inaugural run at dollywood.

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It's the run at Dollywoodweekend, which is going to be
from April 24th through the 26thof 2026.
So if you guys are like huh man, springtime that's not.
I don't want to end my seasonnow.
Wait two more weeks.
You get to run at Dollywood.
How epic would that be to runthrough the entire park?

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And you know who can help youbook this trip magic bound
travel for pigeon forge,severeville and gatlinburg so
they will be able to help andhelp you hook you up with
whatever you need for this raceweekend.
I don't know about you guys,but I I am stoked.
I am so excited and if you'regoing on the cruise, you could

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technically be like you knowwhat?
I have another weekendavailable and go straight to
Dollywood.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
How epic is that.
I can't wait to see the numberof friends that do springtime,
do the cruise and thenimmediately get off the ship and
make their way to Tennessee.
Talk about a triple dipper.
If someone pulls that off, Ithink that person should be a
future interview guest.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh golly, I think they should have their own
episode, greg.
Anyway, magicboundtravelcom,sponsor of the Rise and Run
podcast, magicboundtravelcom istheir website.
Check them out.
Before we get into the trainingschedule, I want to acknowledge
I did this a couple of weeksago with one of our friends.

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I want to acknowledge ourfriend, lola, who has also
registered for the NationalMarrow Donor Program and plans
to be an AWD, an Athlete withDisabilities guide through
Achilles International.
Lola, very cool, we're reallyimpressed.

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Good for you.
All right, let's take a look atthe training schedule.
Wine and Dine Race Weekend fiveweeks away.
My friends, five weeks, just 35days till the expo day.
We are in training week number13, and this week's long run is
four miles with a magic mileMagic miles included in your.

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Four.
Marathon weekend is now 16weeks away.
We're in training week 12.
Gang, I changed something.
We were using the experiencedrunner schedule for the marathon
.
I've gone back to the beginnerschedule for the weekend because
last week, if you recall, theyhad speed work four times one

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mile intervals most of ourfriends use, which is the
beginner schedule.
This weekend for the marathon,your long run is 13 miles.
Those numbers are starting toget up there and get significant
, although we got a ways to go.
If you're doing the dopey orthe goofy challenge, this

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weekend you have a four milewalk and a 13 mile run walk.
This is where and I probablysay this every week here, in the
middle of it this is where youhave to stick with it.
This is where you need to bededicated.
This is where motivation startsto wane and dedication takes

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over.
This is the hard part.
We are getting into some longmiles.
The end is really not in sightyet.
It's still 111 days away.
But this is the hard work, butdoing this work will pay off for
you, we promise.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
You know, bob, you make a really good point there
and you could almost make theargument that this part of the
training cycle could be the mostdifficult for some because,
like you just said, the mileageis up there.
But you still got a lot to go,and you know.

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So, you know, even though thenumbers are going to get even
higher as we get you, you know,into November and December at
least, then you know well, youknow, goofy and dopey, or or, or
the marathon, or right aroundthe corner, where now it's you
know, we're still over a hundreddays out, you know, and but at
least the one benefit that youdo have going for you is that in

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most parts of the country,temps for you is that in most
parts of the country temps arestarting to come down, so it
should make those long runs, youknow, just a tad bit easier for
you.
But again, just, it's all aboutthe time on your feet.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Helps a little bit, uh, the temperatures helps a
little bit, uh, and, and yeah,you're right, when you get to
the 20 mile long runs, then youget to look at the training
schedule and go, okay, I've onlygot three long weekends left,
or two long weekends left, itdoes.
The end starts to coming intoview.
I want to remind friends ofsomething else we always tell

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you and this is just the JeffGalloway way is that you have a
speed limit on these long runs.
This is not the time to go outand run hard.
You do your.
If you're going to do speedtraining, you do it during the
week, but these are forendurance.
Remember, you're going to run13 miles this weekend.

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You're going to do four and 13if you're doing a challenge, and
then Tuesday you're back attraining.
So you don't want to go toohard on your weekend run.
You've got more work to do, butyou can do it.
Friends, if this is your firsttime through, I know it's hard
but you can do it.
And since we're on the trainingtopic, friends, what kind of

(09:19):
training updates do we have toshare?

Speaker 8 (09:22):
My training had been going really well, and I hope
that it still goes really well,but unfortunately today I fell
down the stairs and so I reallyhonestly don't know what
happened.
All of a sudden my foot wentout from under me and I tried to
stop myself, but that almostmade it worse and I kind of gave

(09:44):
myself whiplash.
I'm hoping, after a little bitof yoga and a good night's rest,
that things will be okay, butotherwise things were going
really well.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Alicia, you are too young to get life alert.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
Right, my mom was in the other room and she was like,
what did you just do?
That sounded horrible and I'mlike like, well, it's not as bad
as it could have been.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But yeah yeah, pretty sore today oh well, I mean, I'm
sorry, that happened I am, and,and I hope, yes.
So with these you know this aswell as I do sometimes with
these you wake up the nextmorning.
You feel a little worse, buthopefully that's the end of it.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yes, keep going.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, all right, all right, jack, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
So I know we're talking about bird in hand this
week, but I also ran during thatweekend.
It wasn't bird in hand, but Iran the Great Smoky Mountains
Half Marathon.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
And I was really, really, really looking forward
to this course.
Um, I really do like vacationraces.
I think they are a wonderfulcompany to go and run with.
Uh, go ahead and check them out, highly recommend, um.
But I really wanted to PR so badduring this race but leading up

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to it became almost unrealistic.
I probably should get my hipchecked out.
But I literally, like I wasdoing great the first mile.
I think my first mile was likean 839.
I was just so excited to bethere and then, like by like two
and a half miles in, I felt asharp pain in my right hip and I

(11:28):
said, oh, come on, man.
And uh, it went away and I waslike, okay, well, cool, and I
thought that I might attempt tocatch up to another pacer up
ahead.
Um, but no, no, the two hourand 10 pacer has passed me
around five and a half miles inand I realized, I mean, I kind

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of knew coming in because I washaving hip issues anyways, it
was probably unrealistic, but Iwas like you know, I'd be happy
with about a 215, um, but yeah,around mile nine, uh, the hips
became a problem again and Ijust said you know what?
I'm just going to enjoy thisrace for what it is.
It's got beautiful views.
Enjoy it, and instead ofgetting disappointed with myself

(12:16):
.
It's like sometimes with racesnot every race is going to be
your best race and if you haveissues going on, don't agitate
it.
So I try not to.
If you have issues going on,don't agitate it, so I try not
to.
And yeah, so I'm still happywith accomplishing it.
But I also realized I don'tknow if I'm the runner I used to

(12:36):
be, because I ran this racelike four years ago and I was so
much faster.
I don't know if I'm that kindof runner anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, you are getting old, Chick.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
I am, I don't know if I'm that kind of runner anymore
.
Well, you are getting old, Jack.
I am.

Speaker 10 (12:50):
I can't Like injuries take a lot longer to
get over.
Oh gosh, Wait to hit 45.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, yeah, I know what you're saying, jack,
believe it or not, I do.
I was fairly athletic as ayoung man and I do recall about
in my mid-30s, that's.
The one thing I remember isthat little owies took longer to
get better.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Yeah, and I'm just I'm so mad because if I would
have ran a half like at loopylooper, I felt so good.
And when I went to go and dothat second loop and I was like
I'm just going to do a time loop, let's see what happens.
I to go and do that second loopand I was like I'm just gonna

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do a time loop, let's see whathappens.
I ran that thing so fast and itfelt so comfortable and then,
like literally a week later, itjust went downhill.
And well also let me put thisthis way it had poured down
raining that morning before therace started and you think it
would cool down the race, but itwas like 68 70 degrees at race
start.
It was 80 humidity and I alsohad a lot of hard time breathing
because of it because of wellare you?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
were you at out, were you at altitude there?
I mean, I don't know I'll betyou were, I'll bet you I mean
you weren't hard altitude, butI'll bet you were higher than
what you're used to where youlive.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
And that'll make a difference too.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, and it's not quite fall yet.
It's summertime, so fall PRscould still happen, that's right
, that's right.
Yeah, that's kind of mytraining, as I'm trying to get
my hip to be better And've gotmy biofreeze spray.
Can it's become my best friend?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
take care of yourself , jay I'll try.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
I mean, you got at least a falling downstairs.
I've got hip problems.
Who's next?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
who is next?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
don't grace that evil on me, ricky bobby geez yeah,
I'll knock out some wood, didyou hear that?
Oh wait, babe, is this woodokay?
Dave is like right, all right,moving right along there you go.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't know if you heard that there's a phrase we
haven't said in a while greg anyuh any training updates uh,
nothing of major significance.
The one thing I'm proud of isthat I know, when I chatted with
everyone a couple of weeks agoafter doing the Magic Mile and

(15:15):
it really increased the paces,that I was a little apprehensive
about those new paces and Istill feel like I'm finding the
groove of them.
I mean, in terms of bird inhand, sure, I was nowhere close
to race pace and even that loopylooper that's not even really
an event where I should beaiming for for race pace, just
because of of how it's.

(15:35):
You know the event isconstructed and such.
But today on my uh tempo run,the one thing that I have been
working with Coach Twiggs withis, you know, if you read those
run plans, even on the ones thatare on rundisneycom, you know
they talk about.
You know the Tuesday, thursdayrun how you should do.
You know roughly 10 minutes ofwarmup, 10 minutes at race pace

(15:59):
and then you know 10 minute cooldown.
I had been subscribing to thatfor the longest time.
So in theory I was only everpracticing race pace for 10
minutes and I feel like I'm atthe point now where, if I want
to make that race pace a morerealistic thing over the course
of a longer amount of time.
I need to start extending thattime on my Tuesday run.

(16:21):
So I've been starting to dothat and instead of doing 10
minutes then I was doing okay,do at least a mile at that pace.
I've gotten comfortable withthat.
So now I'm starting to extendthat.
So, like today, I did like amile and a third at race pace
and I was able to maintain a sub10.
Good for that whole distance,and that's something that I have

(16:43):
either I haven't done in areally really long time or I've
never done before.
So just in terms of that I'm I'mvery happy with where I'm at,
and especially since I don'thave a race on the calendar now
until marathon weekend I think,this might give me an
opportunity to either go out andfind something locally that I
can, you know, really give it ago and, you know, maybe find a

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10 K and and go for a POT forthe future, or, if not, just
continue working on speed, youknow, leading up to marathon
weekend.
So maybe if I get a good corral, I can finally achieve a long
time goal that I've had of beingable to run down main street,
uh, in the dark, which issomething I've never been able
to do so.
we'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's fun, John.
How's it going for you?

Speaker 10 (17:26):
It's going pretty good.
I got out to get my run onSunday.
I just got to work on trying toget my pre-hydration better
before I run, because on theshorter runs it used to be
anything under a 10K nevercarried water, but I felt it

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this weekend.
Toward the end I'm like, yep, Ican just feel myself getting
dehydrated and I'm like I got totry to pre-hydrate a little
better on those days, cause it'sstill the weather's still wacky
over here.
You know 80, 81 degrees on lastSunday.

(18:09):
You know dew points still inthe sixties, so it's still a
little hot and sticky out there.
So, and you know the sweat,sweated it all out Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Okay, yeah, and I'll go back to.
I haven't used it for a whileif it's hot.
Where you are, it's hot.
Uh, we were celebrating theweatherman was celebrating this
morning that the dew point wasunder 70.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
It had dropped down to 69 for the first time since
probably april it's those weirdmornings where you're, you're
waking up and it's like looklike high 50s and then all of a
sudden it shoots up to 80 yeahfor us.
So it's like you're yeah, yeah,I get it.
Yeah, you don't realize it, yougo back, you go out.
You're like oh, I didn'trealize.
It's that hot out till you'redone, uh let me share an update.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I went out a six mile walk on saturday.
I upped the pace a little bitfaster than I've gone for a
while.
Greg, you're right, tony'smoving out man.
Yeah, we were, we were, we werepace a little bit faster than
I've gone for a while.
Greg, you're right, tony'smoving out man.
Yeah, we were chatting a littlebit.
Yeah, he's getting down sub 13on his walks, which is excellent
.
I averaged 14.17 on my six-milewalk.

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I pushed the pace from milefour to five, but everything's
going good, everything's goingwell.
I want to.
I'm excited I get to see thesurgeon tomorrow, which is
yesterday, so I get an update onwhat I can and cannot do.
But I'm hoping to get greenlighted, for I don't think.

(19:39):
I still think I'm three weeksat least away from running.
I think the bones need time toheal in the spine, but he has
given me the green light fromday one to walk, so I'm excited
about that For our friends whoare recovering from injury.
Let me share some things Ilearned.
Remember rule number one.

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Rule number one, the primedirective do what your medical
team tells you to do.
So, at least until tomorrow.
I'm wearing this stupid brace,which I don't like and I don't
have to wear it all the time,but I do wear it when I'm out on
my walks.
I'm going to throw out here bepatient in your recovery.

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You're not going to get thingsback all at once.
You've just got to be patient.
Recognize that recovery frominjury is not linear.
Some days are going to bebetter than others.
You're going to get better andthen regress a little bit over
the long haul, you'll get better.

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And then, when things do get alittle bit better, the long haul
, you'll get better.
And then, when things do get alittle bit better, celebrate
those victories, and I had alittle one this weekend, because
there's a six mile loop arounda lake here.
It's a nice, a very nice course, but in order to make it six
miles, I drive to it.
It's only two miles away.
Two miles away.

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Well, three weeks ago, orwhatever it was, I could not
walk from the car to the startof the trail, and so knocking
out this trail at a 14 minutepace was a victory and it made
me feel good.
And so there you go, my friends, if you're recovering from
something, just like everythingelse we talk about, it's a
process.
Stick with it and you can do it.
Caution runners.

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Change of topic ahead.
With that, I turn to my friendsand I ask the question what
would Alicia do?
What would Alicia do?

Speaker 8 (21:52):
So this week I wrote something that hopefully will
help motivate some of ourlisteners.
I am a runner.
I laugh when someone asks howmy marathon went when I ran a 5k
.
I smile when I see mileage on ahighway sign and think I can
run, that I learn to, but notmaybe willingly go to the
bathroom in a port-a-pottybecause, well, I'm a runner.

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I search for races, lookingforward to medals and swag, and
long for the friendships made bythe miles between our feet, May
it be a mile or a hundred,Through black toenails, injuries
, new shoes, fuel, hydration andmore.
I long for the pavement beneathmy feet, Constantly reading,
talking and listening aboutrunning, In good times and bad,

(22:35):
with holler, hypes and more.
I cross those miles off thecalendar with one more step
toward the goal To the nextmailbox, to the next street lamp
.
Step toward the goal To thenext mailbox, to the next street
lamp.
One more mile to go Throughrain, snow and fall leaves
galore.
I keep moving forward Becausewith determination, grit, blood,
sweat and tears, I know deepdown I can.

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I can finish this run, I canget to that goal, I can cross
that finish line Because I am arunner.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
And that my friends is what.
Alicia would do Caution runners,the topic is about to change
right now.
Hey friends, you know we got abunch of merch on our site.
One of the things I thoughtabout doing, golly, a couple of

(23:24):
years ago I think, I liked theidea of temporary tattoos.
So I did a little research andthought how can I do this?
And I came to the conclusionthat I was way too lazy to make
that work.
So I didn't do anything with itfor a while.
I still like the idea.
And then very recently, ourfriend, hannah from the Stride

(23:51):
Sisters podcast, sends me a noteand says hey, rise and Run gang
, I'm starting a new company andwe do temporary tattoos.
I said great, come on thepodcast and tell us about it.
Hannah, tell us all about it.
Good to see you, hannah.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
How are you?
I'm good, Hi guys.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's good to see you.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
It's good to see you too.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Now, none of that.
I mean, I'm always jokingaround, but every last word of
that was serious.
I thought, hey, this would besomething that'd be pretty neat.
We could have him for our racesat Disney, or if we wanted to
wear him at other races.
But I did legitimately just gono, this isn't for me, and I
just put it aside.
And when you approached me Ithought this is awesome.

(24:39):
So how about telling us alittle bit?
You started a company.
You didn't start it just for us.
You started it.
You've got other selections oftemporary tattoos on there, but
now you've got a bunch that workwith Rise and Run and instead
of me continuing to talk, whydon't you tell us about it?

Speaker 9 (24:58):
Yeah, like Bob said, I'm Hannah.
I'm the founder of the StartLine Co.
Like Bob said, I'm Hannah.
I'm the founder of the StartLine Co.
It's a brand celebrating everyrunner's journey, from training
runs to finish lines andeverything in between.
I create the temporary tattoosfor runners so we can add a
little fun, motivation andpersonality to our journey.

(25:20):
And today I'm really excited toshare our brand new
collaboration with Rising Run,the first one ever.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, so we're teaming up on this, but the
merchandise is going to stay onyour website, so we'll direct
our friends to the Startlinecompany and you can tell them
how to get there yeah, you canfind us on instagram at the
start line co.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
We've got our link tree so you can find everywhere
that we exist.
That way, it also has a link tothe website, or you can go
directly to the startlinecocomand this is all very, very
exciting.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Now, I have not ventured into the idea of
temporary tattoos during therace.
I'm not like Bob.
I've never worn body glitter orglitter lips or anything like
that.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Come on bro.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
So this is all brand new to me.
Now, I'm a heavy sweater when Irun.
And obviously with somethingthat's temporary.
Is there going to be anyeffects in terms of like?
Will this be gone by the timethe race is over?
What should I expect when Iapply one of these tattoos?

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How long is it going to lastand how easy is it to apply?

Speaker 9 (26:41):
All of the things, let's get it out there.
So, uh no, you don't need toworry if you are a super sweater
or a salty sweater.
I've had myself, I've testedthem, I've sent them to my
friends, I've sent them to acouple of you guys yep and they
stick around.
So well, they obviously dobetter if you're minimally hairy

(27:03):
, but they're gonna stick aroundeither way, um, and they will
last anywhere from.
If you just want to have it forthe one race, you can wear it
and take it off, or you can havethem for probably like up to
three or four days, and they'restill gonna look really, really
good okay, so the true test isdopey, if it lasts for dopey,

(27:24):
then you know it's a greatproduct.
I really think it would.
I wore two of the rise and runtattoos this weekend for my 12
mile run this weekend in georgiain the summer heat, sweating
plenty, and you guys can't seethem because I have sleeves on,
but they still look exactly likethey did when I put them on
excellent, I saw the picturesand I've show and I've done all

(27:44):
the things.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh, you showered with them on, okay.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
Yes, you can.
I mean, as long as you're notlike scrubbing it with like
something abrasive, like normalshowering, you're going to be
fine.
And they're super easy If youever did a temporary tattoo as a
kid.
You just peel off the clearplastic layer and then you stick
it down.
They're very sticky, so it'llstay wherever you put it.

(28:06):
And then you take a napkin, awashcloth, whatever and saturate
it and then peel away thebacking and there you go, easy
peasy.

Speaker 10 (28:16):
There we go, there we go, and I didn't follow those
directions.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I didn't think so, John.

Speaker 10 (28:20):
You didn't take the backing off, john.
No, I did.
What I did is I took it off, Iput it on and then I put my hand
under the sink.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
That would probably be fine too.
I did for a friend.
We put on a tattoo in our racecorral and we literally just
sort of threw water from awaterfall.
I want to know this.
And that worked too.

Speaker 10 (28:43):
And I'm a water bottle and that works too, and
I'm a heavy sweater and I dohave hair on my body and it did
stay on my whole run and when Igot done and I took my shower,
that's when I rubbed it off andtook it off and it was fine.
It didn't really bother methroughout the thing and it
stayed on fine and didn't peel,didn't crack.

(29:04):
Everything seemed good with it.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
So, hannah, for our listeners who are like me that
have sensitive skin, are thesehypoallergenic or is there
anything in them that peoplemight have concerns about?

Speaker 9 (29:17):
You shouldn't have any problem.
The papers have been tested bythe FDA and they are good for
sensitive skin.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Nice.
Tell us about some of thedesigns you've got, Hannah.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
We have lots of them.
We have the core collection,which is more of your
motivational or funny items.
So I have like a whole sectionof mantras.
Our top seller is a sword thatsays you do not yield.
Um, we have a race you to thecastle.

(29:48):
We have some punny ones likepoor unfortunate souls with the
bottom of a shoe, and we'reconstantly coming out with more.
We do race weekend collections,so currently we have our wine
and dine collection.
I do if you've ever, if you'rea fan of the shoe ornaments at
Disney I do shoe designs forevery race of every race weekend

(30:10):
.
So we just had Halloween.
Wine and Dine is currently onthe website and Marathon Weekend
will be coming soon.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm looking through all the designs now and they
look fantastic.
And they look fantastic, butsay I wanted a custom one, like
a cup of plastic cheese orTinkerbob.
So if I wanted a custom designsuch as those, what is the
process in terms of talking toyou and to potentially get that

(30:39):
created?

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Yes.
So if you go to the website,there is a create your own
option where you can submit anidea, or you can send us an
email at thestartlineco atgmailcom and, depending on how
many you want and how complexthe design is, we will work out

(31:03):
the cost.
It shouldn't be anythingoutrageous and we offer a lot
lower minimum orders than a lotof other companies because we
print in-house.
I can make as few as like onesheet of tattoos, which is
anywhere from six to 12.
Or we could make 500, likewhatever your heart desires is

(31:24):
possible.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Neato.
Well, since you brought up thetopic of cost, what do these
typically cost?

Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, so we offer them.
Each design is offered in athree pack for $15.
So that's five a piece, and ifyou want to mix and match, we
also have a create your ownbundle option so you're not
stuck with getting three of thesame design.
If you don't want it, you canpick whatever three designs and
do that, and then we offerslight discounts when you go up
in the bundles of five and 10.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
The tattoos that you've designed for our
collaboration.
Do you want to tell everybodywhat we have going on?

Speaker 9 (32:00):
Sure.
So we of course have both ofthe rise and run logos, the
stacked one with rise and runand then there's also the alarm
clock one with mickey shoes.
We have that as well, and thenwe have a few custom designs
that are a little add-on.
So we have a running shoe thatis rise and run themed, has

(32:22):
little mini clocks all over it,and then we also have a phrase
that says happy running withmickey ears, and again the
mickey mouse hand clock designsort of added in, and, as
mentioned earlier, we havefueled by plastic cheese, by
plastic cheese.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, baby, and you got one more, a john inspired
yes, we do.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
I can't let you forget about that one.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
We have a hey how you doing oh, hey, friends, I I
haven't worn them yet.
I will wear one this weekend.
I've got a 15k event thisweekend.
I I'll wear one or two, butJohn's worn them.
Hannah sent us pictures wearingthem.

(33:10):
My first reaction when I gotthem was these look great.
The colors are nice and vibrantand they look terrific.
So so check out Hannah'sStartline, so check out Hannah's
Startline Company, startline Co.
And we'll make sure that ourfriends know how to get there.

(33:31):
And I think this has a lot ofpotential.
I think it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 (33:35):
I hope it brings everyone a little bit of joy and
courage on their way.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Oh heck, I'm smiling right now Just thinking about it
.
Good stuff, hannah.
Hey, we'll be in touch.
Uh, thanks for joining us thisevening, and when are we going
to see you down at disney worldwine and dine?

Speaker 9 (33:53):
okay, yep, I'm running the half, but I'll be
there on wednesday and thewebsite again, is the startline
cocom right?

Speaker 10 (34:00):
yes, that is correct .

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Okay, good stuff, all right, We'll see you in a
couple of weeks five weeks nowif we don't talk to you between
now and then, thanks, hannah,thanks, happy running.
Caution runners.
Change of topic ahead.
That'll be fun.
I look forward.
I've got a couple of thesetattoos.

(34:23):
I look forward to trying themout.

(34:46):
If only we'd had them.
The great time we had at theBird in Hand Half Marathon
weekend and while Greg and Johnran the half and I was there,
we've invited other friends tojoin us and share their weekend
highlights with us, and I wantto say hi to Ellie, hello To

(35:08):
Carrie, hello To Tracy, hey guysand to Kim.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
Hey everyone.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
That was good.
See, nobody did how you'redoing John.
They knew that that wastrademarked and they couldn't do
how you're doing that's good,I'm going like Michael Buffer
here.
Well, ladies, thanks for joiningus.
We're glad you're here.
As I mentioned, Greg and Johndid the half I did well, I'll

(35:34):
tell you what I did in a littlebit, but let's kick it off.
Great weekend, one of thebetter race weekends that the
Rise and Run family goes to.
We had a wonderful turnout.
I haven't asked yet Was thisanybody's first bird in hand
experience?

Speaker 7 (35:55):
My first.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Tracy and Kim.
Just overall, what did youthink, Tracy?

Speaker 7 (36:06):
I loved being immersed in the mixed culture.
I thought it was really coolthat you had the locals in their
traditional attire and then youhad all of us coming in and
they were so excited to be apart of it with us.
It was really cool to see themin their traditional garb and
then wearing like Brooks orrunning barefoot at times.
Yeah that was, you know, a neatthing right off the bat.

Speaker 11 (36:30):
It was a really special weekend for me.
It was, dare I say, as much fun, or more fun than a Disney race
weekend, because we didn't havethe early wake up calls race
weekend because we didn't havethe early wake-up calls and not
quite as much stress, andgetting to be around the whole

(36:53):
Rise and Run family was anabsolute blast.
And the farmer's markets I mayor may not have driven back to
Georgia with tomatoes the sizeof my face, some fresh corn,
pumpkin, everything.
So I really enjoyed being inthe environment and it was just
a really special weekend and oneI really enjoyed being in the
environment and it was just areally special weekend and when
I really needed so you drove up.
That's two days or one day um,I did it, one shot did one shot

(37:15):
pretty long.
How many hours?

Speaker 6 (37:16):
it was about 13 hours yeah that's not the worst thing
in the world.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
No, yeah, that's one of those deals where you go all
right, well, you know, okay,I've driven 10 hours, am I going
to stop?
And yeah, no, yeah, that's oneof those deals where you go all
right, well, you know, okay,I've driven 10 hours, am I going
to stop?
And yeah, I know that's yeah,right on the cusp um and I.

Speaker 11 (37:32):
I got lucky.
One of my good friends is in umharrisburg or near harrisburg I
drove up and spent some timewith her, and then we drove over
to the race yeah, that's notterribly far away at all you
know, that was one thing that Iwas thinking about the entire
weekend is how much of theunited states that collectively

(37:54):
we had covered in terms of thisrace.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Plenty of people from georgia, you know, I think kim,
you were, I think, one of threeor four people that Georgia,
ellie, tracy, bob, representingFlorida More than northeastern
states as well Pennsylvania, newJersey, delaware, maryland.
We also had Texas, maine, ohio.

(38:21):
I can't even remember some ofthe others, but it was.
It was a bunch it was WestVirginia.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
West Virginia, yes, yep and that's just amongst the
uh rise and runners, correct?
Yeah, I'm sure, and we didn'task, but I'm sure the uh bird in
hand organizers know how manystates were represented so what
convinced you, or who convincedyou, to run these races?

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Listening to the Rise and Run podcast.
It sounded so good I needed to.
I'm trying to run all thestates, so as much as I wanted
to go back to Disneyland for thethird time, I had to like put
myself back, and so I'm going togo to Honolulu.
I'm doing Chicago.
I only have so much time off,so I'm like this is the perfect
weekend to be with a lot ofpeople that I care about and

(39:08):
still get in a really funchallenge weekend and a long run
as I prepare for Chicago, buton a better price point.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
You're going to love Chicago.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 12 (39:19):
So this was actually my third year at Bird in Hand.
I've done both the 5K and thehalf all three years.
And you know I fly intoHarrisburg and drive over and
it's one of those things thatyou know.
Last year I thought, no, I'mnot going to do it again.
Well, there I was, and I'veactually already booked a hotel
for next year because I have thefour horseshoes Got to have the

(39:43):
whole horse Got to get a horse.
Got to get a horse because Ihave the whole four horseshoes,
got to have the whole.
But really you know just thecamaraderie and all the people
was just amazing.
And and I've seen the you knowthe Saturday night group dinner
get bigger over each three years.
It's just unbelievable.
I mean the last couple of yearswas like 25 people and then

(40:05):
this year it was insane and itwas wonderful.
Thanks again, greg, for allthat work.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
You bet A lot of work on that.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
So of course, I heard about the race through
Rise and Run, but this race wasreally unique and special for me
because, aside from running,I'm also an equestrian, so I
show horses competitively.
Um, I think a funny story fromthis weekend I heard over
overheard somebody say like Ihave two horses and I was like,
oh, I also have two horses.

(40:35):
And they were like we thoughtyou said this was your first
time here and I'm like it is,but I have two horses.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
So there was some confusion around.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
They had run the race eight times, eight times,
you don't have two horses.
So that was that was kind ofentertaining.
That's funny yeah uh, but themedal in the, the road apple
award, is super special for me,um and and really sentimental so
.

Speaker 8 (40:59):
So I know that it sounds like the four of you
ladies did the 5K.
We're going to get into thehalf marathon, but how does the
5K work?
Is it a straightaway down theroad?
Where do you start and whatdoes that look like?
Let's start with Tracy.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
I guess it was kind of like a rectangle, it was like
a loop thing, and most of itwas part of the the half
marathon the next day.
Um, it was nice to not just belike a traditional out and back,
and I feel like there wereparts of it that we did on the
5k that we didn't do on the halftoo.
So it was kind of nice.
Um, it was really nice to justwatch it, like you know, sunset
and all that.
I, I I just wish I hadn't eatenright before.

(41:42):
I kind of got the time mixed up, which I shouldn't have because
of Frank's awesome email Idon't know I read something
wrong.
I was like, oh, I need to eat,but should I do it before or
after?
So I still had a good race, butthat was bad on my part.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
In fairness, in that email I always make sure that if
you're interested in eatingbefore, after or both yeah right
before, after or both.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah right, well, actually, and Alicia, you don't
realize that the weekend well,the weekend starts with the expo
, which is not much, but theweekend starts with the pasta
dinner.

Speaker 11 (42:15):
Oh yes.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
It's available before the 5K.

Speaker 13 (42:18):
I think, another really nice thing about the 5K
this was my first time at theevent event and the start and
finish are the same as the half,so you really get a preview and
you know what to expect in thatlast mile or so of the half.
So it was really nice to beready for what that finish would
look like and help to visualizefor the next day too.

Speaker 12 (42:39):
Another thing about the 5k well, for me anyway, is
it's that's one thing that Ialways walk to start with.
Um, but even after a pastadinner walking is still
miserable, like I had a rock inmy stomach but I wouldn't trade
it.
I mean, I would do it againnext year and I plan to do it
again next year, but I don'tknow.
I keep thinking maybe I'll trythe pasta after the race.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
That might not be a bad idea I will do that next
year too, but then you haves'mores too later on yeah, I
wanted.

Speaker 11 (43:07):
To do that next year , next year, yeah, definitely I
was gonna say I got very excitedto see the camels during the 5k
because I had fully, like,planned to see them during the
half.
And so we come around thecorner and there's the camels
during the five.
It was very exciting.
I got a double camel sighting.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
It was awesome you get to ride a camel no sadly no
riding the camels.

Speaker 10 (43:28):
You just get to see them and take selfies, if you
try hard enough, jack, you canhop the fence and ride the camel
oh, it's behind a fence.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I thought there was like somebody out there like yay
I was gonna save this for aconversation down the road, but
since we're already bringing upthe camels I know she's not part
of this recap tonight, but Ineed to get this file from her
Our friend Caroline from theCustomized Training Group.
She was going to get her camelselfie during the 5K no joke,

(44:00):
and I'm so glad that her phonedid one of those animated photos
where it does several framesbefore and after you hit the
shutter button.
She literally got headbuttedfrom behind by a camel.
And the fact it is captured.
So I told her that she needs tosend it to me because I want to
create a gif of it, or jif,however you want to say it and

(44:23):
then get that posted up on theFacebook page, because I was
just rolling when she showedthis to me after the 5K.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Is she okay?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Oh yeah, she's totally fine.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yes, it startled her.
Yes, that's all.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
So food is a big part of this race.
Yeah.
And we'll talk more about thechicken dinner and then the
second dinner that you all hadwith the big group, but let's
talk about this pasta dinner.
So it sounds like it's a decentamount of time where you could
go before or after the race.
Is it literally just pasta orwhat else is there available or?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
what else is there available?
So the pizza and pasta dinnerruns from 4 until 8 on Friday
night, so hence giving youplenty of options to eat before,
after, in between or both.
But they do offer spaghettiwith a red sauce, a red sauce

(45:28):
that has a little bit of meat init meatballs pizza, I think
there's a salad.
There's a salad, yeah, theydefinitely have breadsticks and
then where I would say, eventhough the food on friday night
doesn't pale in comparison tothe half marathon picnic.
The advantage, though, is thedessert menu, because they have

(45:48):
the traditional I would justcall it like your standardized
birthday cake there, and theyhave the soft serve ice cream,
but then there's other types ofpies that are there.
So there's I saw apple, andthen the Pennsylvania Dutch
shoofly pie is also there.
I saw apple, and then thePennsylvania Dutch shoofly pie
is also there, and a lot ofthose desserts are not part of

(46:11):
the Saturday picnic, so if youneeded some motivation, I guess,
to get a pit in your stomach,like Ellie was saying, and also
do the pasta party.
Maybe come for the desserts, notnecessarily the pasta.

Speaker 8 (46:22):
If you want to experience all the delicacies of
the oven Exactly.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
And also, if you did not do the pasta dinner, they
do have a stand out there thatyou can get pretzel calzones,
where I got a pretzel wrappedwith a ham and cheese inside of
a pretzel, with a ham and cheeseinside of a pretzel, which was
like phenomenal, and I thinkthey also do a egg and sausage

(46:49):
one also too.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
So if you don't want the pasta, there's always that
other option out there althoughthis year I did have to laugh
because when I got there for theexpo which again I know we
really didn't talk about itbecause literally it's just
going to the pick up your shirt,your, your bib and they have a
couple of vendors.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
A couple of vendors, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
But I had to laugh because one of the food vendors
next to the pretzel truck and Ithink this was brand new for
this year is they were offeringit was a food truck of that
great Amish delicacy of Jamaicanfood.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, yamaha, great Amish delicacy of.
Jamaican food.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
So if you were, interested in having Jamaican
food in Amish country that wasalso available for you for
purchase, but also the one thingyou do get in your race.

Speaker 10 (47:33):
Packet pickup is one whoopie pie.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, which is still.
I didn't open the bag.
It's still in my suitcase.
It's right there next to myplastic cheese out.
Open the bag.
It's still in my suitcase.
It's right there next to myplastic cheese out in the garage
.

Speaker 11 (47:48):
It was a fun start to the weekend.
Everything was pretty good.
It was solid.
I definitely enjoyed the icecream.
I can't say no to soft serveice cream.
It was a good kickoff to theweekend just to get to know some
people, have conversation andmeet.
Some folks put faces with namesof people you've seen before,

(48:10):
maybe on Zoom calls or you'veseen posts on the Facebook page.
So it was just a good start.

Speaker 12 (48:18):
I go with Kim.
You know it's a really greatstart to the weekend and like
getting to know people thatyou've seen on Facebook.
That, to me, was likeinvaluable, just knowing you
know and putting a name and aface and an actual person there
together.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
That's where I fall in.
On it too, I mean, it's not.
The problem with the pastadinner is that the pasta sits in
that steam table all night andit gets really overcooked.
And it's soft, it's okay, butit's not great.
As Greg mentioned, though, thedesserts are good.
You've got the soft drinksthere and, heck, you can make a

(48:58):
nice salad, and it was, I think,$16.
But it was $16 to sit aroundwith our friends and kick off
this terrific weekend.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
So I'm like a huge sweet person.
What is this thing abouts'mores after the 5K?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
You are a sweet person, Jack.

Speaker 7 (49:16):
Oh really Thank you.
Next year let's do it.
I really wanted to.
I kept mentioning it, butnobody wanted to go over there,
so I didn't get my s'more.
I love a toasted marshmallow.
I'll go with you, Tracy.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Have great desserts, but you had a s'mores.

Speaker 10 (49:33):
It's a free s'mores pick.
You can make your own s'mores.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
I didn't eat the dessert, because I certainly
didn't want to run with dessertin my stomach.

Speaker 14 (49:50):
I was like I'll get a s'more after, but then nobody
wanted to do the s'mores.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
All right.
All right, we have to have a.
We have to have a s'more.
Get together next year.
Yeah, let's do it.
I think you know I've only hads'mores once in my life.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
I think that's the most jack thing you have ever
said bob, peanut butter andjelly, but it's still something
most people have done I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I don't know if it's because I'm too old, I don't
know.
I mean, I was a scout, I was ascout and all that stuff.
We never did s'mores, and theyjust never did them you know if
you don't have a fire.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
I've used a microwave before, not quite the same but
you don't put peeps in themicrowave, they blow up don't
right I don't think I have no,oh, peeps.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Okay, yeah, they do you're, you're right.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
I love a good peep though.
Okay so I've like never runthis race before, but I know we
talk about it, so so much, andit's definitely on my list of
races to do and accomplishsomeday.
But how was your guys' race?
What was it like starting outfor the race?
Were you guys excited?
Do you have like any kind ofrituals that you do?

(50:43):
I?

Speaker 7 (50:43):
ran with Ryan Sharp and Jenny Oreo.
We had planned to do thattogether and I think Ryan said
it best.
He described it as it was likerunning through a postcard.
It was just picture-esque,beautiful landscape.
I've just that I've ever run.
I think of any race I've everrun, it was the most picturesque

(51:04):
of any any terrain I've everrun on, for sure.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
That's a beautiful way of saying it.
I don't think I've ever heardanybody say running through a
postcard, I want to run througha postcard.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Yeah, he and I were talking, we weren't, we weren't
sure whether a postcard or, likeyou know, like a calendar.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
Yeah, the months, but without like the firefighter.
Cool picture people.
No.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
No puppies, although the Bird and Hand Fire
Department is very active andinvolved in this race.
Yes, that's true, but that'sanother story.

Speaker 11 (51:34):
Yeah, I'm with Tracy .
It probably is the mostbeautiful race I have ever ran
in my life.
It is hilly, but the scenery,the farms, the homes are
absolutely the most stunningpicture, almost a little bit
Norman Rockwell esque.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
It's a great analogy.

Speaker 11 (51:54):
Truly, truly stunning.
I always wear glitter pre-race,so I came in on Friday night
with all my glitter on andseveral people had forgotten
their glitter.
So I had a small glitter barwith all my glitter on and
several people had forgottentheir glitter, so I had a small
glitter bar set up.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yes, you did.

Speaker 11 (52:07):
Before the start Thank you for that To share, of
course, anytime Glad to share.
I turned my finger down he did.
I had glitter that perfectlymatched his shirt too.
She did.
That's true, it was depressing,but I mean literally perfect
match.
But um, glitter isscientifically proven to make

(52:29):
you run faster and, honestly,who am I to debate?

Speaker 6 (52:33):
So it just makes you fly.

Speaker 11 (52:39):
But truly, you know.
Back to the start of the race.
Everything about that race isjust picture perfect.
Yeah, and one of the race.
Everything about that race isjust picture perfect.

Speaker 12 (52:45):
Yeah, and one of the things that really gets me
every year is, you know, thepicture.
It is gorgeous, it's gorgeous.
You know, you can't, you can'teven really imagine it in real
life from a picture.
I mean, you have to be there.
But one thing that I absolutelyadore is seeing all of the
Amish families out there.

(53:05):
They're out there cheering andyou've got little three and
four-year-old kids handing youwater.
I mean, I don't drink Gatoradebut I took Gatorade from a
little kid because he was socute, but that and they're all
along the course, it's just theneatest thing.

(53:26):
And then, you know, even duringthe 5K, you see the little guys
out there and their little toybicycles and they're running
around with all the, all therunners and it's.
You know, you don't, you don'tsee that anywhere else, you know
that's no, it's unique, veryunique.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
No, it's unique, very unique.

Speaker 13 (53:42):
I was really excited to get to the lineup.
There was a lot of navigatingto try to get through some
fences to get onto the roadwhere everyone was starting.
I was also a little nervous,honestly.
Where I live in Maryland I'mright beside the Chesapeake Bay
and it is as flat as it can bewhere I train.
So I'd been working with CoachTwiggs and doing lots of Hills

(54:05):
and speed work um to to getready for the race.
But because it wasn't the firsttime on the course, I didn't
really know what to expect.
But it was good knowing I had abig community of people around
me that I knew were cheering meon.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
There's one aspect of the start of the race that we
kind of glossed over that Ithink is extremely, extremely
important.
Now, obviously, this racedoesn't pale in comparison to
the size of a run Disney race,but the corral P situation is is
top notch.
I mean obviously not hundredsof porta potties, but enough to

(54:38):
handle the size of this race,and I think there was about I
want to say just shy of 2 000runners okay for for the half
marathon.
But shout out to the racevolunteer who had a whistle,
uh-huh so they kept.
I mean it.
It looks like a very long line,you know, like the, the size of
a line of, like an anaconda orsomething.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
it is a very long line, but it is, but it's always
moving.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Yeah, and this year they had this guy no filter in
the me filter.
You know, the one volunteer waspushing us into the U of
Port-A-Potties and then everytime someone came out of one,
this guy was blowing his whistleand just pointing you to which
one was the next available one.
And my God, if that didn't makeit efficient, I don't know what
did, but it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
It's remarkable, it truly is remarkable, and that
wasn't.
It's been like that for a while.
He was there a couple years agoand same thing.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
But the whistle was new.
I think you're right.
I had to mention that.

Speaker 7 (55:39):
I got a little video.
I put it in the comments on oneof the Facebook posts on there.

Speaker 11 (55:46):
There were people trying to sneak in the gaps or
whatever, and he would catchthem and blow his whistle and
make them leave, escort them out.
People were trying to sneak inthe corners when I was going to
Corral P and he would literallyblow his whistle and chase them
out.
I could have stood there allday, honestly.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
It was the Amish version of the soup Nazi.
No port-a-potty for you, backof the line.
It's just another thing.
I've not been to another placethat does that and it's so
daggum efficient.
It really is the best way to doit, but it's fun.

Speaker 12 (56:23):
In fact I was in.
When I got in that Corral Pline myself on Saturday morning,
there was a lady in the lineand I feel like, kim, you might
have been in the line at thesame time I was and this girl
was going.
Oh my God, I'm not going to getinto the race and it's never
going to happen.

(56:44):
It's going to be fine, I promiseyou, they will get us through
this line and when we got up tothe guy with the whistle, she
says I shouldn't have doubtedyou, you know, but she just
could not believe that it wentso quick.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
So, kim, you kind of just briefly mentioned the hills
and whatnot.
Now I guess this is twofold Ona scale of 1 to 10, like how
difficult are the hills here?
Are they like rolling hills?
Is my well really the nextquestion?

(57:19):
Or are they like steep?
Because I'm imagining things.
I'm like thinking not quite amountain, but definitely
mountain, but definitely bighill, like what are we looking
at?

Speaker 11 (57:28):
yeah, so there's.
There's two that I wouldprobably classify as, in my
opinion, eights.
That are pretty steep climbs,like they're not trail trail
race worthy.
But there's a couple of prettysteep climbs I think it was mile
six and a half ish and maybebetween eight and nine that
those, those really tough hillscome in.
Everything else is kind ofrolling.

(57:49):
Um, I was joking, my, I made afriend, uh, jess, during the
race and at one point in therace I felt like every time we
turned a corner it was anotherclimb and I'm like what did I
sign up for?
What is going on here?
Uh, but everything other thanthose two, the, the two big
hills at six and a half andnine-ish, were pretty manageable
.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Like so okay, do you guys know what the total
elevation is?
I'm trying to Google it rightnow.
I was just looking it up 475,max 475?
.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
I was looking at my Garmin.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
I like how I'm trying to squint so I can see it from
where it is.
It's more climbing.

Speaker 14 (58:23):
That's the max my Garmin I like how I'm trying to
squint so I can see it fromwhere it's.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
That's the max elevation 475 is the max
elevation.
The total gain is 581 feet ofclimb.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
That's not bad, because the Great Smoky
Mountains was over 700.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
Mine was 568.
That's about the same thing Igot Greg.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
You know what the great thing about hills?
Yeah, you go up, but you alwaysget to enjoy the descent down
yeah there are a couple of gooddown I will say the.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
The uh eight ranking for me is relative, because I
live in deep south georgia andthere are no hills here.
Um, very similar to carrie'sexperience.
It's very flat here, so take dowith that what you will.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
You know what the I would still probably for that
kind of race.
I would still try, like withoutthe hills I would probably have
to train on a stair master forthat Cause, like honestly
anything, what would you sayAnything over like two to 300
feet of elevation game for arace?
I think would be good topractice on hills, or a stair
climber.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
If any of our friends can remember running Jeff
Galloway's run when it was inAtlanta very similar.

Speaker 7 (59:40):
Oh okay Okay, flying pig had way more hills.
That was like a two or threemile uphill climb at one point,
so this didn't feel bad for me.
I do a lot of Peloton hikeclasses or like the walking
classes with Maddie.
He does a lot of higherelevation on those and I find
that that really helps prepareme for the races outside of
Florida.
I love that.
Wait, do you live in Florida?

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
I live like 30 minutes from Disney.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
Oh, okay, Okay.
I used to live right outsideDisney and I remember trying to
train for the black Canyon 100 Kand I'm like I, there's no
Hills here, man, what am Isupposed to do?

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Peloton saves me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
No, I remember on on Friday night and even Saturday
morning, talking to some friendswho were doing this for the
first time and you know, similarto what you and I just did,
tracy, in terms of pulling up,you know our stats on our phone
from that particular race isshowing them the elevation map.
And when you look at it itactually the most daunting part

(01:00:38):
of it actually feels like thefirst third of the race because
that's where you actually get tothe highest elevation point and
where you actually do the mostclimb.
But it doesn't seem as bad tostart because, number one, you
have fresh legs, so that's veryhelpful.
But then the second part aboutis is that it's much more
gradual and you know you'regetting, you know you're hitting

(01:01:00):
that max elevation over thespan of, I would say, two to
three miles.
Kim, the hills that youmentioned, that you know you
classified as the eights yes,that one just after the 10K mark
.
Sure, it's not very high, butit's very steep.
And then, john, I know the oneyou and I kept talking about

(01:01:21):
after this year's race thatprobably takes us mostly by
surprise is probably towards theend of the race, maybe around
like mile 11 or so, where notonly are you going uphill, but
you're also running on crushedgravel.
So, that, also with your footing, makes things a little bit more
difficult there too.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
I mean that makes sense, because Tracy's graph had
like two good steep bits in itlike you said, that graph looks
more intimidating than I thinkthe course actually is I would
agree with that, yep you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
You talked about the gravel that.
That reminds me we were talkingabout the camels before and
seeing it twice.
I missed the camels the firsttime on the 5k because I was so
worried about the gravel and thegrass and, like the roots from
the trees and the dirt, I wasn'tsure what to expect because
people had said, oh, it's very,you know, muddy and dirt and
stuff.
So I was concerned about that.

(01:02:16):
So I was looking down and Imissed the camel the first time.
So I was surprised about thatvideo coming from the 5k.
I was like where was the camel?
I totally missed it and that'sbecause I was worried about the
my footing around that part.
So I definitely got it on thehalf, though.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Another unique and, I think, fun part of this course
are the cornfields, becausethey're there.
The corn stalks are taller thanme, so you go by the cornfields
.
It's like running by a wall.
Were the signs still out there,guys?
They used to have signs by thecornfield.
It's like running by a wall.
Were the signs still out there,guys?
They used to have signs by thecornfields.
I forget what.
Yes, they do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Yep, yeah yeah, but usually the one thing that I
remember one of the racedirectors talked about in one of
the emails is and actually thisis on the uh, the gravel path
you know you're going through,you know you have corn on each
side of you and then you pop outonto a road.
So that's why they're alwayssaying you know, please be
careful once you get to thecornfield because it does, you

(01:03:09):
know, block the sound.
But the the race support thatthey offer in terms of ems and
you know course, marshals andstuff.
They do such a fantastic job tomake sure that everyone stays
safe, and what's great about thecourse, too, is that there's
only at one point during theentire race where you do have to
cross over traffic, and they doa great job of making sure that
they have everything stoppedfor the runners.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Tracy, what movie did you watch after?
The race the Children of theCorn.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
We were talking about that as we were running, so
yeah, you did it after the race,though not before.
Well, I've seen it before, butthat's all we could think of as
we were running.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
So with all those cornfields, that's what it
reminded us of.
So I do know that you talkedabout different terrains that
you have to go through, but onething you guys haven't mentioned
is going around the road appleswhich are all over um, it
sounds like as you're running.
But a feature with this race isif you do one of the earlier

(01:04:11):
races in the season, you get aroad apple award.
Did any of you here get a roadapple award?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
no, don't think so how?

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
do you win it.
However, that is the onlychallenge.
Medal, ish, whatever you wantto call it.
That I do not want.
It's pretty cool, but I'm okaywith not owning that, yeah.
Jack is looking confused upthere.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Okay.
All right.
Jack.
So they gave you the story ofthe Road Apple Award.
Story of the road apple award.
There is a second race thatoccurs earlier in the year
called the garden spot halfmarathon.
That also takes place justoutside of burden hand.
It's actually not in burdenhand proper it's I forgot the
official name of the town.
But if you run the garden spothalf marathon and burden hand

(01:05:00):
half marathon, then you getessentially a plaque with bronze
poop on it Horse poop.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
Wait, it's actual poo .

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Yes, it's actual bronze poop.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
yes, the real thing is holding it there.
It's like it's hard to roll itout it's actually neat it is.
It's incredibly neat we'd haveto watch this picture.

Speaker 10 (01:05:22):
I don't need to own it actually, if you go on their
website, they show you how theytalk about how they sterilize it
and they shellac it.
It's like it's like hanging.
It's like where they handed thepoo at Discovery.
What's that?
An animal?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
kingdom.
Oh, rafiki's Planet Watch.

Speaker 10 (01:05:39):
Rafiki's Planet Watch.
Rafiki's Planet Watch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Yeah, jack is mortified.
That's why she's so silent,folks, sorry.
Although, shout out to ourbuddy, steve, though, who I
believe this was his second yearin a row getting the Road Apple
Award, getting the road appleaward, and I do have a photo, um

(01:06:02):
, on my camera roll or maybe Itook it with his phone of him
essentially, uh, pretending tokiss his road apple award, which
was quite comical well, andsomething else about this race
with the start.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
The start of this race has a horse buggy lead out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
As the pacer, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
As the pacer, so you have to watch that because
there could be a road appleFresh road apple Very fresh.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
That was another interesting thing about the
terrain.
I didn't really think about howthe horse and buggies would
affect the road.
Sure, you're avoiding the roadapples in the middle, but not
only.
You know when you have a caryou have the lines from the two
tires, but you have the law.
You know you have anothergroove in the middle from from
the horse hoofs.

(01:06:52):
So there's like it's likealmost like a rolling hill in
the middle of the lane, which Ididn't even think about until we
were doing it.
So when you weren't avoidingthe road apples and you could
run in that little part, it waslike a divot that you had to
kind of watch your footing aswell.

Speaker 13 (01:07:07):
It's one of my favorite parts and a great
surprise, it was quite warm forthis race.
Um, race organizers did areally good job of getting
chests of ice out for runners tobe able to grab and go along
the way, in addition to the, thewater and the Gatorade.
But at the top of the secondbig hill between nine and ten,
they had a stand that was givingout Rita's ice and that was the

(01:07:29):
best ice I have ever, ever hadat that point in the race Rita's
flavored water ice or Italianice, depending on what part of
country you're from.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
By the way, there's a Rita's like two miles from here
.
I don't go there.
I had a experience differentthan the rest of you and I want
to share one part of it that Ithought was just really, really
neat.
I was eight days, eight or ninedays out of that back surgery,
so I was feeling just great, butI knew that I couldn't do the

(01:08:04):
half marathon.
But I had walked three miles onThursday and I I said, all
right, I'm going to start withsome of my friends here and I'm
going to go to the two milemarker and turn around.
And that's what they did.
And thank you friends.
Ellie, you were amongst them, Ithink right.

Speaker 12 (01:08:20):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Thank you for going slowly for me.
I appreciate that.
In fact I'll get to it at theend here, but so then I turned
around the crowd support.
The folks do come out from theneighborhood.
Now they don't line the roadfor 13 miles, but the folks are
there, they're there at thestart and they're there in front

(01:08:43):
of their homes and they reallythe people of the uh, burden
Hand area, both the Amish andit's not a hot, it's not all
Amish there, they're the Amishand the non-Amish.
They come out and they enjoy it.
So I we were almost at the veryback by the time I hit the two

(01:09:04):
mile mark.
There were a couple of peoplebehind me and I turned around
and headed back same direction.
To the start Some of the folkswere still out, so I got a
chance to chat with them just alittle bit, and that's the first
thing.
There was three differentgroups of people.
That's the first thing.
They all said you know I'm.
I'm going to approach them andsay, hey, thanks so much.
Oh, we love having you, we lovehaving you, and I stopped.

(01:09:27):
There were a group of four orfive women in lawn chairs at the
end of a driveway and I stoppedin front of them and I said now
I'm going to make the boldassumption, ladies, that you
either live here or live closeby.
And the woman said now, I'mgoing to make the bold
assumption, ladies, that youeither live here or live close
by.
And the woman said well, yeah,this is my house, right here.
And I looked away from herhouse in one of these pastoral

(01:09:48):
scenes we've been describing andI said to her does this ever
get old, looking out here?
And she, right away went no, Iwake up every morning.
Right away went, no, I wake upevery morning.
I look at that and I just thinkI am blessed.
This is wonderful.

(01:10:09):
So I did get, I did get a chanceto interact a little more than
most of the runners did, and Ithought that was really neat.
The other interesting thing Iwas not walking especially fast
and I ended up walking like 4.4miles or something.
And I got back to the startfinish area and remember I've
gone about 4.7 miles the winningrunner had already crossed the

(01:10:31):
finish line.
I took about an hour and 15minutes total.
The winning runner was like anhour 14 something, and by the
time I got to the finish linethere had been five finishers,
wow.
And then I transferred over andI watched all of you finish,

(01:10:51):
and that was a real treat too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Talking about speedy people.
In terms of this race, it was alot warmer than we were
expecting and I know it was therunning joke all weekend.
But it's Roxanne's fault,because Roxanne, on our Facebook
page, about a week to week anda half out of the race, posted a
screenshot of her phone, of theextended forecast and how the

(01:11:16):
high for that day was only goingto be in the low 70s and we
were all just it was going to beglorious.
And then it wasn't a heat wavebut, it got a lot warmer and a
lot more humid, so that reallyaffected things.
But I wanted to say, going backto the 5K, though the weather

(01:11:36):
did cool off by the time the sunstarted to set, though the
weather did cool off by the timethe sun started to set and our
buddy, uh lad lull, the racedirector, who we had on a couple
of months ago on the podcast,uh, he announced, as they were
uh doing the awards for the 5k,that several course records went
down for the 5k oh, they did,and so oh, and for that too yeah

(01:11:58):
okay awesome.
Yeah, so that just goes to showthat even with the heat and
humidity, there were some reallyreally speedy people out there.

Speaker 8 (01:12:05):
So we've talked about this half marathon.
Was there any special momentsthat you guys experienced during
the half that you wanted totalk about?

Speaker 11 (01:12:14):
Yeah, so I ended up meeting up with a friend, jess,
and we finished the racetogether.
But for me the most specialpart of this race um was the out
and back between five and sixand I think I saw everybody on
this call except Greg and Bob atthe out and back and got to
give high fives and cheers.
And just seeing all of the riseand run, family cheering for

(01:12:40):
each other, swapping high fives,giving words of encouragement,
that was the best part of myrace, like that was the absolute
highlight of the entire racefor me was just seeing so many
of us and again hearing thecheers and, you know, seeing
people at different paces.
It was so special and I really,really enjoyed that part of the
race.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Yeah, it was cool.
Well, I wasn't there, but Imean the race overall.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
Yeah, and most people hate out and backs and
I'll be the first to tell youthat most of the time it's like
they're already over.
You know they're a mile infront of me, but that for this
particular race it was sospecial.

Speaker 10 (01:13:16):
It's not that really bad of an out and back.
Like I said.
It's not not really bad of itout and back, like I said it's
only, it's not that long it'snot that long, so it's.
You know.
You make that turn, you go up,go back, and then everything's
totally different again morecornfields and, uh, road apples
and just a quick word ofexplanation.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I have run this course.
I just didn't do it this yearyou Speaking of that out and
back.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Ellie, I want to go to you real quick because, as I
was waiting for everyone tofinish, I received a message
with a photo of a woman theaforementioned Roxanne that we
talked about that you wererunning with who might have been
trying to pull a cheating stuntfor the second year in a row no

(01:14:02):
way.
You want to talk about that?

Speaker 12 (01:14:04):
No way, no way, were we going to let her do that?
We were actually joking aboutthat.
We said no, Roxanne, nocheating, no cheating.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
As I then get a photo of Roxanne giving this goofy
look on her face, standing infront of the cone with the
U-turn sign, so that that gaveme quite a giggle.

Speaker 12 (01:14:25):
That's right.
That's right.
She did do that, but then wedid make her go around the cone.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Good, I'm glad you made her do that.

Speaker 10 (01:14:32):
I finished later on.
I finished behind a bunch ofyou guys, so you guys were
already at the finish line whenI got there.
But that cheer coming down, uhthat that that shoot from
everybody there was was amazing.
It was one of the best, best uhcheers, cheer squads we had out
there at any race that we'vebeen to lately.

(01:14:52):
So that really made the uh thefinish really special.

Speaker 8 (01:14:56):
I do want to throw it out there that there is video
footage of the finish line.
So if you want to see peoplefinish and see the atmosphere
that is at this race, if you'redeciding to go to it, you can
see that.

Speaker 10 (01:15:10):
Yeah, the race announcers have a YouTube video
up of everyone finishing therace, so they do have a camera
and a video of everyonefinishing the race.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Yeah.
So for me, this was, I willclassify as my second best
timing-wise bird in hand.
I had joked to a lot of friendsthat they were asking me what
my game plan was gonna be, and Isaid, well, it's a unique one
because, believe it or not, thiscourse is my half marathon PR.
Asking me what my game plan wasgoing to be, and I said, well,
it it's a unique one because,believe it or not, this course

(01:15:42):
is my half marathon pr.
Uh, when I ran it the the firstyear, I ran it in 232 all
thanks to my buddy nate fromcustomized training who paced me
the entire time and I wasgunning for a pot at this one.
And then, after learning whatyou know the terrain was at, you
know, being a newbie at thetime, I was like boy, this is

(01:16:05):
not the race to go for a pr ortry to get a pot with.
But at the same time, though,the three following years though
, I had always been three plushours so.
So I had joked with everyone.
I said, well, I wanted a timethat was slower than 2.32, but
faster than three hours.

(01:16:26):
So I started with a bunch ofrise and run friends and I was
having the blast, but probablylike around mile four or so, for
the first time in a really longtime, I got squirrely and I I
saw some people falling back andthen I was playing that mental

(01:16:47):
game with myself of should Istay with my friends or should I
see what my new paces can do?
And, um, carrie, similar to youyou know you had talked about
coach twigs putting you throughthe ringer in terms of hills and
drills he did the exact samething for me and I this was your
, even outside of the pr that Ifelt most prepared for the hills
and I was like you know what I,I just I need to do this and I

(01:17:10):
need to go, and, and everyonewas so understanding and I'm so
appreciative of my friends, so I, I got to 249 and, uh, you know
, again, even though it was alarge group, I ended up made a
new friend, matt, from Delaware.
Him and I ran the entire racetogether, crossed the finish
line together and we just had ablast talking with one another

(01:17:32):
and just again taking, you know,because, even though this was
my fifth year in a row ofrunning this race, I just, you
know, similar to what everyone'stalked about, you know, running
through a postcard and such.
You know, you just I lovetaking in the sights and the
sounds of this race and I just Iwas so happy with my time.
Sure, would I love to be evenfaster in the future?

(01:17:52):
Yeah, I would.
But even even now I think thiswas the easiest time that I had
with those hills and I thinkthat was the biggest win for me
this weekend is that I crushedthe hills and then even walking
around the post-race area and atthe picnic my legs didn't feel
like lead and I was so happywith my training and then how

(01:18:15):
that translated into the race aswell.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Yeah, it was fun for me being back early and getting
to see everyone finish.
That was great Cause I think,uh, I'm looking around here.
Uh, jennifer, not JenniferTracy, you ran with Jennifer and
Ryan and y'all finishedtogether, right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
Yep, yep, we had planned it.
We, we, dls did.
We were pretty much the lastacross the start line and, uh,
yeah, we ran the whole racetogether.
We had planned it.
We, we, dls did.
We were pretty much the lastacross the start line and, yeah,
we ran the whole race together.
We had a blast talking andlaughing, kind of like Greg was
saying with with Matt, like itwas just we were all doing it
just to have a good timetogether and and we did.
And yeah, the best part waswhen we were coming in and
hearing all the crew cheering.

(01:18:56):
It was like being at.
It felt like being at a runDisney race, but it was all our
people cheering us and it was socool.
Same thing I forgot to mentionthat when we were talking about
the 5k, like I I don't know whyI wasn't even thinking about
that.
I was just running hard andjust wanting to be done and my
stomach was weird and and thenall of a sudden, I heard

(01:19:17):
everybody, it was fun, it wasfun.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
And then let's see, carrie, you came in next.
Same kind of reaction for you.

Speaker 13 (01:19:28):
Oh, yes, yeah, so I'm coming in.
I had slowed down compared towhere I wanted to be, but I said
it's a warm day, I'm just goingto do what I can do today.
So I knew my sister Catherinewas already at the finish line.
I'm like I'm going to get thereas quickly as I can after her
so that we can celebrate.
And coming in, I could see thehuge group of the Rise and Run

(01:19:50):
family and I wasn't wearinganything that was Rise and Run.
So she after the fact told meshe was like my sister's coming.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
And I heard everyone cheering me on as I got through
that finish line.
It was great.
Yay, kim, you finished withJessica.
Did you run most of the racetogether?
Yeah, so we actually found eachother between mile four and
five.
I actually was coming off ofillness.
So my plan was to run my normalintervals to the 10K mark and
then kind of take a step backand do what my body would let me
do.
So she was running theintervals that I was going to be
running post 10 K mark.

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So we picked up together andran the race in from there and
finished together.
And it was really awesome tomake a new friend who I really
cherish now and we stillcommunicate, of course, but to
finish with her was reallyspecial.
I actually started with Carrieand Catherine and we like we
frogged each other until aboutthe 10K mark.

(01:20:47):
So it was really fun and reallyexciting to have somebody like
cheering you.
You were going to like passthem or they were going to pass
you.
So it was almost like a littleinner cheer squad between the
two of us.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
It was like a little inner cheer squad between the
two.

Speaker 11 (01:21:00):
It was like a big frogging, which was really
encouraging.
But, just like everybody said,turning that corner into the
finish was so incredibly special, especially not knowing if I
was going to run the half cominginto the weekend.
But having so many of the Riseand Run family just encouraged
me to go out there, do what mybody can do, stick to the plan

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and really finding Jessica andhaving somebody to talk to and
encourage me that was kind of inthe same place was really
important.
Honestly, I think that's why Ifinished.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
It really helps.
It really really does.
Now, Ellie, I heard Tracy sayshe was a DLS, but we didn't
even.
We didn't even line up untileverybody was gone.
We stayed over by the side ofthe road, let everybody go.
And then we, we went in thereand, uh, I remember I was at the
finish line and I know what thepace was.

(01:21:57):
At the two mile mark you guyswere just holding back for me.
I appreciate that, Uh, but I doremember saying to everybody
well, I think the last group isgoing to be a while yet, because
I know what the pace was and Ithink they're going to be a good
four hours plus, and I think Igot those words out of my mouth

(01:22:20):
and somebody said, no, they'recoming around the corner now and
I, Ellie, I daggum near lost it.
You guys picked it up and thatwas awesome.
Tell us about your finish.

Speaker 12 (01:22:33):
Well it was.
I just have to share a littlebit about the whole race.
You know, like we've said'vesaid, we started with Bob, went
into this race with absolutelyno plan at all.
I generally run with my friendRobin We've been running buddies
for years and then we hooked upwith Jen Hudson, and then Sonia

(01:22:53):
and Lizzie and Roxanne Roxanneknew she was going to run with
us.
We really didn't have a big plan, so we walked with Bob, you
know, for the two miles, andthen we started using a slow
interval and we just really kindof took our time.
And I'm not sure we allexpected to stay together for
the entire race, but it justturned out that way and we, you

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know, if somebody needed to walkfor a while, we would all walk
for a while, you know, and thenwe would pick it back up again
and we had some slow miles, wehad some fast miles and then,
when we were still all together,you know, coming down the road
before we made that turn, wejust decided that we were going
to grab hands and run down thatfinish, shoot together, and

(01:23:41):
that's exactly what we did andit was probably one of my
favorite race finishes ever, youknow, because definitely one of
my slowest, but it was worthevery single minute.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Ellie, it was one of my favorite race finishes ever
too.
Just watching you come by.

Speaker 12 (01:24:03):
I've seen that picture out a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
I would be surprised if the person used it next year
for their marketing.
I would not be surprised at all.
I hope they do.
That would be kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
They better because and I also want to give a shout
out to our friend Lizzie thatyou just mentioned Ellie,
because she went the extra milethis year she dressed as a camel
.
She did With humps and it wasquite impressive.

Speaker 12 (01:24:29):
Yeah probably wasn't a great idea and she wore it
the entire race.
She never, took it off.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Yeah, it was a little warm for that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:36):
You can take your girl out of Run Disney, but you
can't take the Run Disney out ofthe show right and talk about
the finish line.

Speaker 10 (01:24:42):
at this race, the last person that comes through
gets just the biggest ovation asthe first person that comes
through this race.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Yeah, yep.
Now the ovation mostly comesfrom the people who are in the
tent eating.
Yeah, but that's okay.

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
You just mentioned this, Bob, so now you've all
finished.
Which congratulations to all ofyou.
Next comes this coveted chickenthat we all hear about.
How was the first dinner youall had?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 11 (01:25:16):
I did look at my friend who came to support me.
She didn't run and I said, isthis chicken this good because I
just ran 13 miles, or is thischicken that just that good?
She was like, no, thischicken's just that good.
I really didn't believe howgood it was until I had it.
And, man, I will be thinkingabout that chicken for the next
year.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Yeah, it's been good every year.
Now, if this is me picking, ifthere's a downside to the
post-race meals, that it's socrowded we can't all sit
together, although groups of usmanaged to find tables five or
you know, five to 10 at a tablebut we had to split up a little
bit, but that was okay.
Uh, and yeah, the chicken wasjust as good two years ago.

(01:25:58):
So they, they do.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
They've got it down I will say this year now I I know
we went in later than weusually do.
I did not see ribs this year,so maybe they were all.
Either they didn't have them orthey were all gone by the time
we went in there, because Ithink bob's learning to what you
were saying about, uh, thestory of the epic finish by

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ellie and the gang.
I think there were some of usthat we were actually gonna go
into the tent, eat and then comeback out to cheer everyone on,
thinking that it was gonna be alittle bit of time, but then
again, serendipitously, you know, you all came around the corner
.
I'm like, okay, no, we're gonnastay here, we're gonna share
and then we're gonna go eat.
So, but no, chicken wasphenomenal, as usual, and and I

(01:26:45):
think maybe we need to send lolaan email and maybe he can
connect us with, like you know,the, the sponsor of, you know
the, the, the chicken, and youjust get the recipe of the brine
and the seasoning because, um,my mouth is watering just
talking about it.

Speaker 10 (01:27:00):
It's weird.
You walk up, there's this likeRubbermaid container on the
ground with tongs and chicken.
Okay, but I think which Ithought was really good I got
the bottom of the barrel, sothat thing was sitting in all
the brine and the juices on thebottom.
So I think it tasted a littlebit better, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
And it's not the only thing they have.
They have burgers.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
They have sausages.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Sausages hot dogs.
Potato salad.
Potato salad, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
I think a regular salad and potato chips.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, potato chips.
Soft serve, soft serve.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, potato chips.

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
Soft serve, soft serve, yeah, soft serve.
And then they had theassortment of desserts.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Yeah, they had the assortment of desserts, right?
I don't think the Jamaican foodtruck was there.
I don't think.

Speaker 10 (01:27:51):
It was outside on the fire truck.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Yeah, could have been so for our friends who did this
for the first time.
Speaking of crossing the finishline, what was your impression
of your special race medal thatyou received?

Speaker 13 (01:28:07):
It was heavy, Very heavy.
After I came through, I wentover to the recovery tent and of
course you're trying to carryall of the things and get to a
point where you can sit down andcool off for a minute, and so I
put it around my neck and itwas there for a couple of
minutes and when I stood up Ilike lean forward it's very
heavy.

Speaker 11 (01:28:27):
It's really special to me to see all the different
shoes.
So my shoe is a special onethat has borium on the bottom of
it for traction, so for likesnow or ice, it's got the borium
for that.
Then there were draft horsesize shoes.
There were all different kindsso it was really cool to see the
and unique to see the differentassortment that everybody had.

(01:28:48):
Nobody had the same one.
I thought that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
See, you're a horse person, Kim.
I don't think most peoplerecognize that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:56):
Most people wouldn't , but I think that made it that
much more special, I think forme just to to see everybody's uh
and my friend that was with mealso ride.

Speaker 12 (01:29:04):
So we were kind of like, oh, look at that, look at
that one, look everybody'shorseshoes one thing about the
horseshoes is if you're flyingyou have to make sure you let
them know in security thatyou've got a horseshoe.
I have literally gotten stoppedthree years in a row at
security at the airlines becauseI've got this thing and, you

(01:29:27):
know, one girl said is that ahorseshoe?
It's happened three years in arow.
So, Tracy, you may have runinto the same thing.

Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
I kept mine in the front pocket and they didn't
give me a hard time.
They didn't even say anything,it just went through.
I was prepared to say something.
It's good.
At least it's not just ahorseshoe.
It does have a plaque with thename of the race and everything
on it.
So you know you can show it andbe like, hey, this is a medal
that I won here.
But yeah, I thought that wassuch a cool medal.

(01:29:59):
It's so big.
It kind of rivals my SpaceCoast medals.
It's a good size medal so Ihave to put it on the shelf,
that I have all my Space Coastones.
I don't know what to do with it.
It is heavy and yeah, when Iwas waiting and cheering with
everybody after I finished I hadto take it off and hold it
because I didn't want to keep iton my neck Right right, but the

(01:30:20):
difference of them all isreally cool.
It's cool how unique they are.
Ryan and Jen and I went to abrewery afterwards and we took
pictures with our medals and ourbeers and it was really cool to
see next to each other threedifferent ones.
That was really neat.

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
So all of you did both the 5K and the half
marathon of our guests that arehere.
Did you get anything specialfor doing both of the races?
We did.

Speaker 12 (01:30:43):
What'd you get?

Speaker 13 (01:30:45):
All together now.
So it was a wooden craft objectyou could pick from a couple.
I chose a charcuterie board, soit has the emblem of the race
on it on Hanhuen wood, and thenit has rope handles Very cool.

Speaker 8 (01:31:06):
Did anybody get anything different?

Speaker 12 (01:31:09):
They had some different boards over the years,
like I've gotten threedifferent ones over three years
now, so they do change them upup somewhat.
They had some really pretty bigboards this year that they
hadn't had before, and the oneswith the rope handles.
Those were also new, but it um,you know, like a small cutting

(01:31:30):
board or a breadboardcharcuterie.
They're really pretty coollooking too they're quite nice,
that's fun.

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
It adds to the atmosphere and the uniqueness of
this race weekend so cool so Ilove me some good food.

Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
What about the buffet ?

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
this is the place to go jack is it all you can eat?
Wait, it is, but the buffet allyou can eat if you, yeah, if
you didn't get enough if youdidn't get enough at the
community picnic, which, by theway, is a community picnic.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
You do not have to run the race to go to this
picnic and you don't have to pay.

Speaker 6 (01:32:08):
I was about to ask is everything included?

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Well, it's free.
I mean, they have a jar at thefront where you can make a
donation to the fire department,but it's free.
And if you happen to live inthe community head over there,
it's their.
It's their community picnic forthe year.
But you, jack, you were askingabout the buffet at Shady Maples
, I think, and I'll let ourfriends go on that one and tell

(01:32:33):
you all about it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:35):
I'm not usually a big buffet person, but that was
really, really awesome and, ofcourse, the best part was with
all the pre-planning.
Thank you, greg.
We were able to get in thereand we all got to sit together.
I think we had three or fourtables of just all our people
and we just got to sit there andtalk and mingle and recap the
weekend and the food wasexcellent and they had a really

(01:32:57):
fun dessert bar and it was justreally, really awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Tracey, we had three or four rows of tables.

Speaker 7 (01:33:04):
Oh yeah, there were like 20 people at a table.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
We had 65 people.
Yeah, it was huge.

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
When I saw the picture I was like that can't
just be our group.
And then I started lookingcloser at the picture and I went
that is all of our Rise and Runfamily.
And how cool that you guys gotto do that together.

Speaker 11 (01:33:22):
It was really cool and special to sit down and talk
to everybody and, as much aswe've been together all weekend,
there were still people that wehadn't got to meet because
there were so many of us.
Um, so dinner kind of gave anopportunity to even meet some
more people or, you know,strengthen friendships or
communication.
I got very excited to see thatthere was plastic cheese on the
buffet and instead of bakedTostitos we got to have waffle

(01:33:46):
fries with our plastic cheese.
So honestly, it was really justlike being at a Disney race.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
How in the world did you let me miss that, Kim?
I didn't see that.

Speaker 11 (01:33:56):
I'm so sorry.
Yes, it was.
I forget which part of thebuffet it was on, but there was
cheese sauce.
There was also Dole Whip,apparently Orange Dole Whip.

Speaker 10 (01:34:06):
Delicious yeah, and let's see you had to go into the
other room for that Dole Whip.
It was the other buffet room.

Speaker 11 (01:34:15):
Yes.
So I still crack up thinkingabout the mainland, because we
were in a large group.
We kind of had a semi-privatearea with its own buffet and
they told us that we would haveall the same food.
But I think I don't rememberwho went to the mainland.
But somebody went to themainland and came back with a

(01:34:37):
milkshake and we were alllooking at each other.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Oh yeah, right.

Speaker 11 (01:34:39):
And we had all the same things right.
We had all the same things.
We did not have all the samethings.
It was close, it was very close, but then, the trip over to the
main dining room startedhappening and people came back
for Dole Whip and milkshakes andlasagna and all kinds of
different things coming back,but really what stood out was
the milkshake I missed that too,dag nabbit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
We got to go back.

Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
Round two.
I think we need a party busnext time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah, I mean, that was one of the questions when I
was working with Shady Maple toget the reservation secured.
They were asking how manypeople and what time were you
looking for?
And the last question was, willyou be bringing a bus?
And I was like, well, no, we'renot, but maybe for
organizational purposes, maybethat's something we could look

(01:35:29):
into for the future.
But no, kim, I was going tobring up the exact same thing.
I think my favorite moment wasjust seeing the pure shock and
awe on people's faces of theestablishment that is Shady
Maple.
I, I had been there once before, probably like seven years ago,

(01:35:50):
and we, when I went, we weresat in the main area, or you
know, as you said, the themainland, so you got the full
buffet.
But so, because we were such alarge group, we were on the
other side in what they werecalling like the banquet area.
So you know, even though it, Iwould say it had about 80% of
the same food that was on themainland, just to be able to see

(01:36:13):
everyone's reactions to thebuffet that we experienced.
And then, when people werediscovering the mainland and the
fact that there was even more,I, I, just, I loved just seeing
that jubilation in people's eyesand you know people were just
going up multiple trips and youknow not getting the same thing
twice and you know again.
but I, I, just, I love thecommunity aspect that you know,

(01:36:34):
even though all 60 of uscouldn't be at, you know, one
large round, large round table,I was just so glad that there
was these little subsect ofcommunities spread throughout
the entire restaurant, yearlybasis that, even though it was
large and at times overwhelmingin terms of getting organized

(01:37:02):
and getting into the banquetarea, um, the fact that that
idea of community just continuedthroughout that meal as well,
not only just with the raceitself, but also rise and run as
well too so did any of the restof you go down to the gift shop
and that restroom I I meanrestroom restaurant, I'm losing
it.

Speaker 12 (01:37:21):
I walked down there and like my eyes glazed over.
This is way too big.
So we went down like rightbefore they took us into the
dining room and it wasabsolutely monstrous.
There was so much stuff thereyou really would need at least
an hour or better to get throughit, so it was pretty amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:37:45):
Yeah, it was really cool.
I was I hadn't gotten asouvenir or anything yet One of
the cool parts of this, with allthe meals and stuff we didn't
have to go out and get mealsbesides the pretzels that I
bought the first day so we couldhave, you know, something to
eat for breakfast.
Uh, before the half, you knowevery all the meals we just
talked about.
So I didn't really go anywhereto get any souvenirs.
And I always like to get anornament when I travel to new

(01:38:06):
places.
So down there they had a lot ofgeneric type stuff but they had
this little quilt shop that wasrun by a couple of Amish people
in the right corner when youfirst walked down and I had
looked for an ornamenteverywhere and I didn't see
anything that said like bird inhand or anything like that.
But in there I found one.
It was like a handmade ornament.
It had like a little map thingand it says bird in hand.

(01:38:28):
So it's my Disney shoe ornamentfrom this race weekend.

Speaker 13 (01:38:32):
So I was very excited about that we went down
right after dinner.
We were just going to pop insame thing.
Look for a souvenir to takehome with us.
So there's furniture there'slots of Disney items.
Probably half the store wassome sort of Disney product,

(01:38:53):
which was surprising.
I was not expecting that onthis race weekend.
But my favorite was they didhave a section specifically
branded to Shady Maple and someof it was your typical t-shirts,
sweatshirts, but they hadpajama pants that have like
scrambled eggs and bacon andpancakes on them.

(01:39:13):
So we didn't pick some up butseriously considered it's a very
, very, very unique item, butit's the whole ground floor of
the restaurant it was.
It was a lot and we were downthere for um, I would say 30, 45
minutes an hour wouldn't beenough.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
you need more to see everything carrie, I want to
follow up on what you weretalking about a lot of the
disney stuff that is down there.
One of the things that myfamily and I did in between the
race and then Shady Maple isthere is a large outlet mall in
Lancaster, pennsylvania, and ifthe race isn't enough to get you

(01:39:50):
out there and if the food's notenough to get you out there,
there's one other X factor thatI think should draw even more
people to this race next yearand that is there is one of the
very few remaining disney storeoutlets at this outlet mall and
we went over there and I droppedway too much money because I

(01:40:12):
heard someone had mentioned onthe course that they had gone
the day before and there was ahappily ever after spirit jersey
that apparently was reallydifficult to get in the parks
and they had them there.
So of course, I told my wifeabout this, and that was one of
the things that she walked awaywith.
Uh, um, and I was even soshocked that they had stuff from

(01:40:32):
the disneyland 70th anniversarymerch out in this outlet store.
That was really impressive.
Now, if you're a local, I thinkthere's also a benefit to going
to the Disney store as well too.
Bob, I don't know if you went,but the Eagles Pro Shop is right
next door, so you could get allyour birds merchandise as well,

(01:40:54):
too.
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
I missed it.
I'm so jealous hey quickquestion just to wrap up the
buffet.
Did anybody get chicken off thebuffet line?
No, I wouldn't think so.
Well, look, classic weekendLots and lots of fun.
I do hope friends who arelistening who have a chance no

(01:41:18):
Disneyland race competing withit next year, bird in hands on
its own weekend.
If you have a chance, I hope,listening to all of us talk
about it, you understand this isa great destination race.
Get in there on Thursday, leaveon Sunday or Monday.
It's a lot of fun.
Thanks for sharing your timewith us.

(01:41:39):
Before you leave, I'm going togo ahead and ask where are we
going to see you next, or what'syour next?

Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
big running event.
Ellie, kick us off.
Well, I will see you all atWine and Dine Weekend.
I'm doing all three races forthe first time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Well, good for you.
Good for you Sounds like fun.

Speaker 12 (01:41:58):
Several others but, that's too many.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I think you mentioned it, Tracy.
What's up for you?

Speaker 7 (01:42:05):
First I've got Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
I know there's two lines of runners for that.

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
Actually, I've got a race almost every weekend for
the rest of the year, but I willalso be at Wine and Dine for
all three races.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Oh, that's super.
How about?

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
you Kim.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
And Honolulu.
Yeah, yep, yep Kim.

Speaker 11 (01:42:21):
I am doing.
Next big race is the rocketcity marathon weekend in
Huntsville, alabama.
Yeah, hat trick challenge there.
So five 10 and a half.
And then my next Disney weekendwill be marathon weekend to do
the five 10 and a half there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
All right, we'll see you there.

Speaker 11 (01:42:39):
That's a hilly race it uh, huntsville.
Oh, it's not awful, it's notterrible, um, and you get to go
through the space and rocketcenter, which is pretty pretty
cool, pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Yeah, and carrie, how about you?

Speaker 13 (01:42:50):
yep, so I will be at the disneyland half marathon
weekend in january and thenprincess weekend at dis Disney
World will be on my birthday, soI would say it's good to
celebrate with all of you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Neato.
Well, we look forward to seeingall of you at those events and
we had a wonderful time seeingyou a couple weeks ago in
Pennsylvania and thanks againfor sharing your time with us.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
Thank you so much, thank you.
Caution Runners.
The topic is about to changeright now.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Well, thank you everyone for participating in a
recap of such a lovely weekendthat you know, I think year
after year after year is justbecoming a more and more special
event in my heart, and I thinkthat is extended over into the
community as well too.
And if you folks are interestedI know Bob said it right there

(01:43:45):
at the end of the interviewthere's no Disneyland next year,
so there's nothing competing upagainst it.
And, folks, if you areinterested in participating in
our packet pickup that we gotwith our whoopie pie, I'll uh
remind you of that.
Uh, there was a little businesscard in there that actually
gave the dates of the events fornext year.

(01:44:05):
So if you are interested inparticipating in either the 5k
and or challenge at bird in handin 2026, that race weekend
begins on friday, september 11th.
Uh, that is the date of the 5k,and then the half marathon is
on september 12th.

(01:44:26):
They also had the date of thegarden spot, uh, so if you want
to go for the road apple, butthat I do not have that date off
the top of my head- I thinkit's the weekend before
springtime.
Yes, yeah, they're usually inapril yeah, yeah, now that you
say that, john, that does make aton of sense, so yeah.
So if you're interested inapril, yeah, yeah, now that you
say that, john, that does make aton of sense, so, yeah.
So if you're interested ingarden spot, that's the weekend
before springtime, so that wouldbe, I believe, the 11th of

(01:44:48):
april.
I don't have a calendar in frontof me, but but you all can
figure it out.
So again, if it's, if you'reinterested in joining us in
burden hand next year.
Those are the dates.
Mark your calendars now.
Registration.
Registration is not open yet,but I would imagine it would be
opening soon.

Speaker 10 (01:45:03):
And Greg, like you said, there's no Disneyland race
, but more and more this raceseems like it's the start of a
run Disney race season for usnow.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
I agree with you a thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Before we leave the topic, I want to recognize two
of our friends.
I hope I'm not missing anybodyhere, but our buddy David set a
half marathon PR by two seconds.
Hey friends, a PR is a PR.

Speaker 8 (01:45:33):
Two second, one second doesn't matter, that's a
PR, that was a tough course toPR and a tough day, and our
buddy, rob, who I think finishedwith David, if I'm not mistaken
, set a course PR there inBurden Hand, pennsylvania.

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So a few weeks ago we had onour friend Mona from Mona Moon
Naturals and she spoke about herproducts and I had a chance to
try a few of the items and Ijust want to say that I
absolutely love her lip balm andher deodorant.
I've tried a lot of differentnatural deodorants and this one
goes on seamlessly and so if youhaven't had a chance to check

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out her website, go tomonamoonnaturalscom and reminder
that we have a code to use onthere, for I believe it's 10%
off.
And that code is RUNFAM allcapital letters and that will
get you 10% off.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yeah, and all together, no spaces in there.
R-run fam.
Thanks, alicia.
I haven't used any of herproducts yet, but it looks great
and I think it's good to hearabout that.
Terrific, thank you very much.
Hey, I haven't mentioned thisone in a little while, though I
know a lot of our friends arealready doing it.

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We're doing the aliens for the5k marathon weekend.
So those shirts are availablefrom our friend Alec at Hawaiian
Pizza, apparel.
The alien shirt.
It's a flat rate, $35, Ibelieve, which is a good price

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for the shirts that Alec hasavailable.
So head on over there, see ifyou can get yours for the
weekend.
I hope to see a bunch of littlealiens running around Disney
World.
Uh, back in January, that wasso much fun last year when we

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had all the topic of costumesfor upcoming races.
Next week the Council ofCostumes returns that's always
fun Some of our friends who'vebeen with us for a while now and
you know you've seen them withtheir awesome costumes at Disney

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World and Disneyland whythey'll be with us next week.
And now, please stand clear ofthe doors.
It's time for a race report.
Por favor, manténganse alejadosde las puertas.
The race report is sponsored byThomas Stokes Toot toot.

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Tom of Stoked MetabolicTraining, stokesfit slash.
Rise and Run Coaching is thewebsite, if you can get to the
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Tom has a post there about hisfree webinars his free monthly

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webinars that are coming up,friends, in the Race Report.
I've got a request for you,please the report is starting to
get longer because the weatheris starting to get cooler.
Please, if you don't mind,somewhere in your report
indicate where the race tookplace and what day it was
Saturday, sunday, tuesday,whatever.

(01:49:08):
I can look them up, but it'sgetting to be more and more of
them.
The other thing I'd like to askyou to do, and this is, if you
want to, if you ran withsomebody, like a child, a
husband, and you want us torecognize them in the race
report, please let me know theirnames.

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Sometimes with children, youdon't want that.
That's okay, that'sunderstandable.
You can just say I ran with myson or daughter.
That's okay, but that's on you,that's understandable.
You can just say I ran with myson or daughter.
That's okay, but that's on you,that's your decision.
But if you want to get them ashout out.
Please give me their names.
And with that let's go to thisweek's race report.

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We start on Thursday, september11th, the first ever Brooklyn
Running Company Hot Dog Run.
Doug was there.
This race goes from a runningstore in his neighborhood to a
Costco and then back.
It's not quite a 10K, more like5.7 miles.

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So Doug's thinking maybe heneeds a PR bell for this one.
What do you think Works for me?
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Here you go.
Maybe he needs a PR bell forthis one.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
What do you think Works for me?
All right here you go.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
I did have to ask Doug a very important question,
though, and I believe he didanswer it.
But I've been very excitedbecause my Costco finally
switched over to Coke products,as we discussed a few weeks ago.
Coke is far superior than Pepsi, so I'm very excited.
So I think his switch too.
So if you folks are stillholding out on your local costco

(01:50:43):
, just know better soft drinksare on the way well funny.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
You would say that, greg, because in this race, at
the turnaround point which wasthe costco, you get one of those
famous cost Costco hot dogs anda fountain beverage.
And apparently it was kind offun because the patrons weren't
quite sure what was going on.

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There were a couple hundredpeople coming in the middle of
the race.
Did they check their card?
I don't know?
I don't know, I didn't ask Goodquestion.
Question though John Dougparticipates in the hot dog run,
but Doug's a vegetarian, so hegoes ahead and he borrows a

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friend hot friends hot dog topose for photos at the Costco.
He did refill his bottle, though, with Powerade for the run home
.
Beautiful night in the city and, quoting Doug, a ridiculously
silly event.
Sounds like fun.
Let's go to Friday.
On Friday, amy ran the BuffaloBills 50 yard finish 5k in

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Orchard Park, new York, and Chadultra marathon.
Man Chad did the Pain inMoraine 24-hour trail challenge
in Pottersville, pennsylvania.
The loops on this event were 10kilometers and had just over

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700 feet of elevation gain ineach 10k.
I think that's a lot.
He did it 10 times to finish100k in 24 hours.
Chad loves these fixed timeevents and we've talked to Chad
before he does across the yearsand neat stuff anyway, first

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time on a trail for Chad.
Let's turn now to Saturday andgo out west to Vancouver,
british Columbia, in Canada.
The Brita Night Run 10k.
And Lauren did I pronounce thatright?
Is it the Brita Night Run 10k?
And lauren, did I pronouncethat right?
Is it the brita night run 10k?
It sure is.

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Yeah, I knew I got the night inthe run part right.
I wasn't sure about brita.
Well, friends, if you haven'tfigured it out by now, this is
our race report spotlight andour friend lauren is here with
us.
Lauren, thanks for doing a bigtime zone difference.
Thanks for making the time forus.
We're glad you're here.

Speaker 14 (01:53:19):
Thank you, so happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
All right, I'm kicking it off.
Standard Rise and Run.
Spotlight question number oneAre you ready?
I'm ready.
How'd you get started running,nice, nice, did you see that

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gang?
You see how ready lauren was?
She knew what praise free sport.
Spotlight question number onewas gonna be so nicely done.
Well, that's cool.
So you started running with dad.
That's I like, that, that'sthat's neat.
Does dad still run?

Speaker 14 (01:54:02):
So actually he passed away 15 years ago today.
Oh golly.
So it's 15 years today, mygoodness, yeah, it's.
It's kind of nice to you knowcelebrate running today.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Yeah, it is.
I mean, I know 15 years is along time, but I'm sure it still
hurts when you think about itand I'm sorry to hear that.
But I'm glad you at least youknow you had some of those
experiences and running bringsback good memories, so I think
that's a wonderful thing.
So I'll tell you what my friendtell us about the Brita Night

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Run, the 10K.

Speaker 14 (01:54:40):
So it was a fantastic night run in Vancouver
.
So Vancouver has this giantpark called Stanley Park, and
around the outside is theseawall which is just along the
ocean there, as is the name, andso the night run started in the
park.
It did a little bit of a loopand went out and back all along

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the seawall and it started rightat dusk.
So it was gorgeous viewsRunning right along the water,
all the lights, the bridges ranpast, a lot of restaurants with
patios outside, so lots of funwith cheering from those people
too.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
I can imagine.

Speaker 14 (01:55:25):
Nobody threw any food at you did they Thankfully
not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
That's a good thing.
I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
Okay, so I'm looking at your medal and the bib.
It's the Brita Night Run.
Is that after the Brita waterfiltration systems?

Speaker 14 (01:55:39):
It is.
Is it really?
Yep, they had some great waterstations and the metal is a
shape after a drop of water I'llbe darned are they
headquartered out there?

Speaker 10 (01:55:52):
I don't I don't know coincidence.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
How about, yeah, I?

Speaker 14 (01:55:56):
think they were just a sponsor I'll be darned I.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
I thought john was messing with you, but no, I'm
looking to go because, wait, Ihave the bread, of water felt
okay and I'm going.

Speaker 8 (01:56:07):
I know that name and logo that was gonna be my
question too, so all right, Inoticed it as well, yeah, that's
, yes, okay, cool now at saidwater stations.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
Did you have to like, grab a bread of pitcher?
And fill up your own cup, orwas the water already provided
for you?

Speaker 14 (01:56:27):
So I'll be honest.
I was going for time.
I didn't stop at any waterstation.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Okay, I get that, I do, and you killed it.
I think you did absolutelygreat on this one.
You want to tell everybody whatyour time was.

Speaker 14 (01:56:43):
So it was 50 minutes and eight seconds and I was
really happy with that.
I've been training hard for amarathon and I oftentimes get
kind of mentally in my own way,so I was really happy that I was
able to kind of shut off mybrain and just run.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
That's outstanding.
I think anything under an hourin a 10K is great, but you're
down there at 50 minutes.
That, by the way, is a PR,correct it is yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:57:12):
And it was in the dark.

Speaker 14 (01:57:14):
It was, and we had headlamps.
So, yeah, I managed to not tripand fall either.
That's great.

Speaker 3 (01:57:20):
Yeah, I reckon that would have that.
I don't know that that wouldhave been more impressive.
Trip and fall and still do 50minutes.
That's pretty cool.
No, I didn't want you to dothat.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
I didn't want you to do that all right, I know we've
made plenty of jokes aboutbritta water filters and in the
pictures and everything likethat, but what type of swag
outside of the the metal did youget with this race?

Speaker 14 (01:57:39):
uh, so they had a shirt, um, and then also they
had a like headlight, uh,headlamp that they gave oh nice
required to wear during the race.
Um, so that that was prettygood.
And then they had beer ticketsand stuff and um, protein bars
and all that good stuffafterwards more, more or less

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standard stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
But yeah, the headlamp, that's a nice little
gift.

Speaker 8 (01:58:03):
Yeah, I used it this morning so, lauren, when can we
expect to see you next?
Are you going to be at any ofthe Disney races or any um thing
that we might be at?

Speaker 14 (01:58:14):
so I don't have any plans to go back to Disney right
now.
I'm hoping, hoping to soon inthe future, but no concrete
plans.
Pretty soon I will be doing theRoyal Victoria Marathon, which
is in Victoria, bc, canada, somaybe some Canadian friends will
be at that one, and that'slocal to me and actually the

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first local marathon that I'llbe doing.

Speaker 8 (01:58:39):
That would be a beautiful one.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Yeah, I just want to say that, alicia, I have never
been out there.
I've been to Alaska, but that'skind of a little bit further
north.
But I understand the BritishColumbia area is gorgeous, so
that sounds terrific.

Speaker 14 (01:58:55):
It is.
And a plug if you ever go on anAlaskan cruise.
We are typically a port.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:59:02):
I've been there.
It's great.
Did you do that, Alicia?

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Yeah, I did yes, I need that.
That needs to be on my list.
I think that's something wecould do in the future.
Well, lauren, great run, reallysuper.
Congrats on the PR, congrats onthat great finishing time and
thank you very much for joiningus.
I'm going to say this evening,but it's this afternoon where

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you are, so we appreciate you,lauren, thanks.

Speaker 14 (01:59:29):
Great.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
We moved from Canada to Utah for the big Cottonwood
Marathon in Salt Lake City.
Troy and Christina were there.
Troy ran the marathon,christina ran the half,
christina ran the half.
They are Florida folks, so theyheaded out west for this event.
Beautiful place for a race.

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Now Christina did the half.
She dedicated it to her mom,who passed away unexpectedly
just four days before the race.
Who passed away unexpectedlyjust four days before the race,
said a new half marathon PR bymore than 10 minutes Christina

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did.
I know mom's proud of you,christina, we're all we're sorry
for your loss.
Now Troy ran the marathon.
He managed a PR for the 30Kdistance but he'd been fighting
an injury and this injury causedhim some discomfort.
So he had to back it way downfor the last four miles.
But Troy finished marathonnumber six In Nashville,

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tennessee.
Amy was fixing to run a 10K atthe Hendersonville Triple
Classic but they up and canceledit on her Kind of quietly too.
She was surprised.
So no race that weekend.
David, however, he raced.
He ran the Special OlympicsPepsi 10K in Charlottesville,

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virginia, and David ran a sub 4010K for a PR.
I wish, oh, my God.
That's smoking, huh Jack, yeah,that's outstanding.

Speaker 6 (02:01:14):
What is that?
Race per mile.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
It's under seven, it's six something.

Speaker 6 (02:01:18):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
Yeah, just using six miles, so a flat out six will be
36 minutes.
So yeah, it's just a littleover six, just like just using
six miles, so a flat-out sixwill be 36 minutes.
That's wild.
Yeah, it's just a little oversix, just like 610 or something
like that.
Lots of runners, lots offriendly faces from the local
running groups and a bigconfidence boost for David, I
would say so he's getting readyfor Richmond.
In November Trish participatedin a Ragnar the Reach the Beach

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Ragnar, specifically inLancaster, new Hampshire Another
great Ragnar run in the bookswith her team Run faster.
I hear banjos.
I don't know what Lancaster,new Hampshire is like, but
that's a great team name, trish.
Over in Winter Park.
The lady Track Shack 5K Tracy,who we were just talking with,

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came back from Pennsylvania andran this race.
She's a Track Shack ambassadorworking in that position
pre-race and seeing all thetutus and the flamingos on the
heads of the remarkable womeninvolved in this women's only
event.
A lot of breast cancersurvivors present at this one,

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running with pride.
Uh, tracy ran a really solid2804 with her run Disney girl or
actually I'm going to say ourrun Disney girl.
Tracy Wu calling racers to thefinish.
Our friend Heather was there atthis race also.

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Heather, our wheelchair athlete, says the wheeled contingent is
growing.
She had a great time at thisevent.
Contingent is growing.
She had a great time at thisevent In Toronto, ontario,
canada.
The Oasis Zoo Run.
Rachel did the 10k and the 5k.
Her amazing niece, tiffany wasthere to cheer her for the 10k

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and then join her for the 5k.
Then they were able to visitsome of their favorite zoo
animals.
They had to visit maybel and rj, the river otters, who are
featured on the medal, and theyfound them curled up, cozy and

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having a nap in their habitat.
It was a neat looking medal.
I saw that it was cool.
In Canton, ohio, laurie was on ateam to run the Cheeky Monkey
24-hour relay an eight-personteam, the Flying Monkeys from

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the Wizard of Oz, appropriatefor the Cheeky Monkey Relay.
They were entered in the seniorwomen's division and this team
won first place.
105 miles in 24 hours.
So much fun, adam.
Of course, more fun at the camparea with the team, which is
the way it is with these kind ofevents.
They're really great is the wayit is with these kind of events

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.
They're really great.
This was a loop, a one-mileloop, with what they call
Gorilla Hill near the beginningof each loop.
Lori ran multiple laps eachtime, did very well, averaging
under 12 minutes a mile on herlast leg.
Lori, of course, is buildingback up from her knee
replacement surgery of a yearago.

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Out in Redondo Beach,california, mark did the LA
Kings 5K.
Lots of fun.
Wore his gritty 5K shirt.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
Thanks, mark, that's a heck of a move.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
Wearing flyer stuff at the Kings 5K Good on you.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
Yeah, props for that, mark, and props for his short
and sweet report.
I love it.
In the Pocono Mountains inPennsylvania, christiana.
The Wicked Fast Marathon,formerly a Jack and Jill race,
says Christiana this is probablythe most stunningly beautiful
race she's ever run.

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Now, the Poconos and Bird inHand are not exactly side by
side, but it's the same kind ofterrain.
Very, very pretty area.
Small race this was the expo's.
In a parking lot they had onevendor.
It's a point-to-point downhillrace.
She used it as a training run.
Really fun event.

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At the finish she grabbed theirmedal off a table, a couple of
granola bars from the post-racesnack table and that was that.
It's a day later.
She's making the report stillfull of gratitude on the way
everything aligned to make sucha wonderful event.
The way everything aligned tomake such a wonderful event.

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In Middletown, new Jersey, kellyran the 9-11 Memorial 5k and I
do believe I've heard we've hadrace reports on this race before
.
This is a race to honor the 37residents of Middletown that
went to work on 9-11 and nevercame home.
Most of them left from thetrain station where the race
started and finished.
Race course was almost allhills but they knew that going

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in.
This was Kelly's first hillycourse.
Weather was good, though shedid much better than expected,
finishing in just a little over36 minutes.
Great support from theMiddletown Police Benevolent
Association and from the firecompanies in the area.

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In Townsend, tennessee, jimmyran a 7K with the Knoxville
Track Club.
A lot different from last week.
The weather this week wasamazing.
Folks were even talking abouthow chilly it was in Tennessee
Track Club.
A lot different from last week.
The weather this week wasamazing.
Folks were even talking abouthow chilly it was in Tennessee.
Jimmy says he hasn't felt sogood around a race in a long
time.
Glad he did it Also first 7K.

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So somebody's looking for a PRbell In the town of Crescent
Springs, kentucky, which is justa little bit south of
Cincinnati.
Carol ran the Tunnel to Towers,northern Kentucky 5K.
The Steven Siller Foundationputs on these races.
It's an amazing organizationthat supports the families of
fallen first responders ormilitary wherever it's needed.

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Families of fallen firstresponders or military wherever
it's needed, carol says.
I encourage everyone to see ifthey can get there next year or
maybe see if there's a local T2Trace near you On the last
Sunday in September.
That's the actual, or let's saythe big Tunnel to Towers race
which occurs in New York City.

Speaker 10 (02:08:04):
Yeah, that's the one where they actually do the same
path as the firefighters thatran through the tunnel to the
World Trade Center.

Speaker 3 (02:08:13):
Okay, okay, thanks, john, let's see.
In Florida, michael did the Run.
Daytona Double Dare, that's a10K in the morning and a 5K in
the evening.
Michael's best attempt to rivalMonica and the Chaos Crew.

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He brought his wife, twodaughters, a son, three
grandbabies all to the 5K.
They all had a blast,especially climbing the
31-degree bank on the DaytonaSpeedway.
All of the grandchildren allthree of them now completed
their first 5K, so we got threePRs there.

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Let's wrap up Saturday in Smyrna, tennessee, with the Top Gun 6K
night race.
Kylie and her husband did thatone, kylie's first race since
the marathon and post kneesurgery.
I'm not sure what Kylie haddone.
I'm going to guess maybe ascope.
I hope it was something like.

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That.
Race was warm and humid, unlikeearlier in the week when it was
a bit cooler.
Could have used some morelighting on this nice night race
in some parts of the course,but they had a great finish line
area.
They ended the night with aspecial fireworks show.
They ended the night with aspecial fireworks show, fun race

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and Kylie set a 12-minutecourse PR.
Let's move to Sunday.
Kate was in Washington DC forthe DC half In Claremont,
florida, for the fourth andfinal time this year I get to
say the cool Summer MorningsSeries.

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Summer races are now done andit's really not cool, but it's
getting a tiny bit cooler.
Kayla was there, tracy's back,tracy's there for the 5K the
40th anniversary of this raceseries.
We've talked about this onebefore.
We always talk about the coolsummer mornings S-O-M-M-E-R, but

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they typically have a differenttheme for each of the four
races.
Here We've got these four racemedals.
It's the 40th anniversary ofthe race series.
We've got a cake with swim bikeand running on it.
We've got a rock and roll mouth.
Now I'm picturing the cover ofa Rolling Stones album.

(02:10:52):
Got a casino slot machine and abright 90s style tiki head for
the fourth today.
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:11:05):
Makes sense to me, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:11:08):
This is Tracy's second race of the weekend.
Took it whatever pace Felt good, pushed yesterday's a little
bit Weather was great.
Mary Jo was there Echoes thatthe weather was great but no PR
Did have negative splits and shefelt really good throughout.
Hopefully Mary Jo gets to doall four events next year

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because she really does enjoythe series.
It sounds like a fun series Inthe Bronx, the Bronx, new York,
the New Balance, bronx.
10-miler.
Grace was there.
Doug is back.
Always one of Doug's favoriteraces of the year in the new
york area.
Incredible energy.

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Love seeing how the communitycomes out to support the runners
.
There's a downhill finish nearyankee stadium.
Downhill finishes are great andI think running into the
stadium was cool for Doug Feltgreat.
Beat his goal pace by 10seconds a mile.
Jen was there.

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Barely made it to the corralbecause of the lines for corral
P were so long.
You know what you need there,jen the guy with the whistle.
That's what you need.
Yeah Now.
Jen's goal was to do the firsthalf conservatively and then
pick it up on the mostlydownhill second half.
However, she underestimated thehills in the first few miles,

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probably took them a littlefaster than she should have.
On the plus side, now she's gota guaranteed entry into the New
York City half and had asuccessful test run of at least
part of her wine and dinecostume.
That's wise.
Special shout out to SisterEmily for cheering her on with

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encouraging texts even when Jenwanted to quit, even when Jen
wanted to quit.
In Hamilton, new Jersey, petedid the Run, the Vineyards White
Horse 10K or 5K.
In Ontario, rachel and herhusband Chris did the Windsor

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Waterfront Half Marathon,getting back into the swing of
racing after some injuries, ofcourse using the Galloway method
.
That really helped Rachel getbetter.
One lady said on the coursethat she was trying to catch up
to the two of them, but she gaveup near the end.
So Chris explained the Gallowaymethod to her.

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I've had opportunity to do thatbefore.
People don't understand whyyou're running and walking and
then you wait for them at thefinish and explain what happened
.
So maybe another convert guys,who knows?
On the banks of the River Seine,la Parisienne 10K Jennifer an

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amazing experience thatcoincided with a trip to Paris
with her mother.
Large crowd of at least 90%women, fantastic looking course,
passed a lot of Parisianlandmarks, finished in the
shadow of the Eiffel Tower.
If you remember, the Olympicsset open area in front of the
Eiffel Tower.
If you remember, the Olympicsat open area in front of the

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Eiffel Tower is where this racefinished.
The team was Super LN or SuperHeroine, with many runners in
costume, including Jennifer's.
Wonder Woman just missed her10K PR.
Now I kick this off by sayingthat I don't always know where

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the races are.
I'm proud of this one.
If I got it right, chris and hiswife, I think, did the Elk
River Trail 5K in Gassaway, westVirginia, and the way I figured
it out was they had a pictureof them finishing and I could
see the bib and the bib had a QRcode on it.

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So I blew it up, scanned the QRcode and this is what I got.
Anyway, they went out for aplan.
This is neat.
They went out for a plannedfive mile training run.
Went out for a plan.
This is neat.
They went out for a plannedfive mile training run.
They added a little distance ontheir training and turned into
seven.
And then they found out therewas a 5k setting up, as they
were about a mile from their car, so they finished up their

(02:15:34):
training run, went to an atm andthen signed up for this race.
That's awesome, yeah, isn't it?
They added the race, so therewas going to be a five mile walk
with some running breaks,turned into 10.3 miles, and this
is cool.
Chris ends up winning the 51 to60 age group.

Speaker 4 (02:15:56):
Wow, that's great.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (02:15:59):
Now I will say, bob, if you are correct in your
sleututhing, I think, if thiswhole podcasting thing doesn't
work out for you, I I thinkmarathon investigations would oh
gosh, I'm probably gonna get anote from chris or his wife
saying not even close, bob.

Speaker 3 (02:16:15):
We were in.
We were in, uh, holland,michigan, or something I don.
All right, let's wrap it up.
The Turtle Crawl 5K in IndieAtlantic.
Indie Atlantic I am notfamiliar with that city.
It's on Florida's space coast.
It is in support of the SeaTurtle Preservation Society.

(02:16:36):
Valerie was there, her first 5Kin a very long time.
That wasn't either a run disneyevent or a 5k that involved
beer.
What's wrong with 5ks and beer,valerie?
Anyway, uh, her first live racetoo, after dealing with
back-to-back cancer diagnosesand treatment, and she felt

(02:16:57):
strong and that's outstanding.
Valerie may have even been alittle emotional after finishing
.
You earned it.
The road to recovery and toWine and Dine weekend continues
for Valerie, and we are allcheering for you.
Valerie, great report.
That's a great way to wrap upthe race report for episode 208.

(02:17:24):
Well, friends, and if you run,you know you are our friend.
It's been fun.
Training moves on.
Weather cools off a little bit.
Five weeks from now we'll betogether at Disney World.

Speaker 4 (02:17:43):
Until then then, happy running the rise and run
podcast discusses generalinformation about run disney and
is in no way affiliated withrun dis, disney or the Walt
Disney Company.

(02:18:03):
Any information or advicediscussed on this podcast should
not be considered medicaladvice and should always consult
with your health care provideror event organizer.

Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
Rise and run.
Let the anthem be spun forevery heart that runs for fun.
Let the anthem be spun forevery heart that runs for fun.
Rise and run from start to therun.
Together we shine like themorning sun.
Rise and run, we rise and run,we rise and run.

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