February 23, 2025 • 38 mins
In this powerful episode, Lisa Y. Collins, a racial healing leader, life coach, and author, shares her journey from burnout to building a heart-centered business focused on trauma and racial healing. Lisa opens up about overcoming corporate discrimination, finding purpose through mindfulness and trust, and creating Conscious Freedom Life Coaching to help others align with their true selves.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
Rise from the Ashes podcast.
I am your host, Baz Porter, andit is a privilege yet again to
be here today in front of youand with my next guest.
Her name is Lisa Collins.
She lives on the West Coast ofAmerica.
I'm going to let her, as always, introduce herself.
(00:21):
Lisa, it's a privilege to haveyou here.
Please introduce yourself tothe listeners and also the world
.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor.
My name is Lisa Collins.
I am a small business owner,assistant professor, an author
and a practitioner of healingtrauma healing, racial healing,
healing all around the board andI'm really honored to be with
you today.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now the honor is mine , firstly, and can you tell the
audience a bit about who you are?
And you mentioned you were alist of things.
What does that actually involve?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, I started off as a public educator and what
happened for me is that I burntout and I couldn't self-rescue,
and that began my study aroundtrauma, and in that time also, I
began to heighten my spiritualself, and what that did for me
(01:24):
is that allowed me to be able toconnect on a spiritual level to
help me to be able to live inmy purpose.
And so I work as assistantprofessor, I teach at leadership
, I'm an author of a spiritualbook and I really am service to
people who want to be their bestselves, and that's my story is
(01:45):
that I learned how to be betterand be on my path, and I know
other people want to do so too.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I love that.
When you came into ourcorporate doing this small
business thing many peoplestruggle with the transition
over.
Can you share a story that wasa mind-blowing career change for
you?
But what life lesson did itactually teach you in that
(02:12):
process?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, that's a great question.
For me, I had a small businessas necessity years ago and it
was to be able to do some workfor the city at one point and I
needed a business.
That's how I started mybusiness, but what happened in
probably 2019 or around there,is that I had experienced some
(02:36):
corporate discrimination and Ihad applied for a job and the
job was taken away.
I got the job and it wasrescinded, and what happened is
all of this business startedcoming to me, like the universe
sent all this business, and whatI had to do is I had to take a
breath and I had to trust.
I had to trust.
(02:58):
I call it being in the tunnel.
I am in the tunnel and I wantto see the other end of the
tunnel, but there's somethingabout trust, about just trusting
what is happening right now andjust being in my skin in this
day, and that was the launch ofthe business I have today.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So you mentioned trust and the horrific stigma of
racism in today's, not just inthe corporate world.
It exists everywhere thathumans exist.
How did you start trustingyourself through that stigma of
being I'm going to air quotethis because I believe this but
(03:43):
the minority in what you weredoing?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Wow, that's a great question.
I hit my knees like I wasfloored by what was going on and
any kind of human power I hadto grasp to rise myself up, to
fight, to go to court, to do allof those things at the core of
me.
To fight, to go to court, to doall of those things At the core
of me.
I needed to just be still, andby being still at the core I
(04:10):
could start to apply some of thethings that I had learned
around trauma.
It's like you are on the cyclesof trauma right now.
You need to break free byhaving a healing community of
support.
And then I took a breath.
It is our breath that justcarries me into the next moment.
And by me taking a breath andstanding still, then the answer
(04:34):
started to come.
I just said yes to whatevercame in my screen, if it felt
right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I love that.
I mean that takes a hell of alot of courage to step into that
space.
I love that.
I mean that takes a hell of alot of courage to step into that
space.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And especially in today's world.
When you look at your companynow and what you've formed over
the years, what makes it sounique and what drives what
gravitates people towards whatyou do know, I think very
similar to yourself.
I am working from the heart.
I'm working from the heart andI want to be of service to
people.
It's not about what they can dofor me, it's really about what
can we help together, and I'mnot canned, it's not.
(05:23):
If you come to work with me,then I have this canned pitch
that I'm going to do with you.
We talk and then we form whatyou need.
And to me I'm authentically ofservice in this way to be there
for people in a way to help themconnect to their greatest good,
and that is unique, I think, inbusiness.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, it is unfortunately because people
don't see things the same asothers, and this is conflict
arises.
So what you do is veryimportant, I believe, and having
that approach, differentapproach to it.
When you were going through thetransition of learning to do
what you're doing now, trustingwho you are, to do what you're
(06:07):
doing now, trusting who you are,was there anybody that really
helped you or guide you intothat?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
into the space you're in now.
Yeah, there was.
There were a number of peoplethat really helped me.
One of the things that I didright away is that I thought I
need to get rid of this racialtrauma.
I don't want to carry it aroundin my body anymore.
I want to be free of it.
And when I went to get helpfrom a lady who is the founder
of Conscious Freedom LifeCoaching, I interviewed her At
(06:34):
least I thought I wasinterviewing her the way the
universe works, as I heard myfriend say, this person for two
years and she's pretty good andI said I'll be the judge of that
and I'll let you know right now.
That didn't work out the way Ithought.
I went to interview her and shesaid to me why did you stay so
long in a place that was harmingyou?
And I didn't have an answer forher and we began to work
(06:56):
together and through ConsciousFreedom Life Coaching I was able
to heal my past traumas so Icould heal my racial trauma.
That is a very important toolbecause we want to heal racial
trauma first all of us but wehave to go back and do the
foundational work.
That was foundational and alsointerpersonal neurobiology,
(07:19):
studying here with apractitioner for a year that
helped me get down to the rootcauses and my what they call
mothering other pathways that Ihad needed to rebuild or heal,
and that helped me.
And then I'd say there's manythings, but lastly I'd say
energy medicine.
I had no idea what energymedicine was, and the way that
(07:42):
it was introduced to me is thatmy heart was racing and I was
standing still.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And instead of being the snarky I don't believe in
that it was made real to me inthat moment where my friend
brought my heart rate down threetimes in one day when we look
at quantum physics which is whatthat is at the basis level of
it and we look at division orracism, how would you say the
(08:10):
two combine to help, firstly, bepresent to what the issues are?
And secondly, how do you usethat to heal not just the now
the but, as you said earlier,the generational side of it?
But going back into thevibration of the DNA?
(08:31):
of it to go, is that?
Me or isn't it me?
What's really real?
What isn't real?
Could you speak to that, if youwill?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, that is wow.
I mean there has been a lot ofhealing that I've done to just
undo the past and past lives.
So at first I thought it was me.
So first of all I needed to dowhat has happened in this
lifetime and I worked on that.
What has happened harm in thislifetime Then for me, I needed
(09:00):
to go and forgive.
I needed to go and forgive.
Once I got toward the healing,give back the shame and then
forgive myself, ask forforgiveness for me and then
forgive the people.
That frees up energy in my bodyto do different things.
And then from there then Ineeded to lean into where am I
(09:22):
going to bring this energy intoour world today and how am I
going to help other people dowhat I've done so that we can
have a synergy around movingforward?
I have no idea what I was inpast lifetimes.
I could have been a man in pastlifetimes.
I could have been a white manin past lifetimes, but to really
(09:43):
lean into the energy of ourcommunity well-being instead of
the isolation that we're not one.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What I like about this subject is the way you
presented that and therealization from yourself of
we're a collective, we arespiritual beings having a human
experience.
David Corbin, who is the mentorof mentors if you've ever heard
of him, look him up.
If you haven't heard of him,he's done multiple books he said
(10:13):
to me once we are entrepreneurshaving a spiritual experience.
Steve Jobs said the same thingmany years ago.
That defining moment of we areenergy and we come from that
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place and the experiences thatwe've had have influences on us
now.
But they also build resilienceand they build grit or stamina,
and that is what most smallbusiness owners, entrepreneurs,
have different from, say, thecorporate world or most people
in the corporate world, becausethey have a limitation in the
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corporate world that you'regoing to live at wage nine till
five or whatever you're workingwith.
But that recognition ofresilience within your life, how
did that start to show up,especially with this delicate
subject of race and color,because that's prevalent in this
day and age and it's used as aweapon a lot of the times to
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belittle people and keep them inthis framework of.
You're not good enough, but youand I both right true.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it first showed up when my life left the
path of I talked about earlierwith you, about my marriage my
first marriage and it wasriddled with alcoholism and drug
addiction.
And being able to leave thatand take a path that your life
is completely changing, thatgives a resilience there that
(11:50):
you know things can change.
When I think about, when I lookat you and when this is the
thing that really captured me isthat if you are hurting, I am
hurting.
And when I got to that point Isaid, oh, this is not about race
, this is not about how we look,this is about who we are, about
(12:13):
our spiritual oneness, and thatif you're hurting and I'm not
hurting, that's not okay.
And that's the message that isin the book that the spiritual
book I wrote.
It's not I came through me,it's not from me, that we are
one and that is the place thatwe need to get to all people and
(12:36):
it's our collective work.
And it's really hard to getthere because people want to do
the surface stuff first.
They want to talk about theharm and spin in the harm.
So I work with people on whoare you, do you know how to
recognize your own feelings?
Do you know when you're in andout of the cycles of trauma?
And then let's start with that.
(12:58):
After that, how do you leaninto because we know conflict is
something that needs moreinformation how do you lean into
the discourse without attackingand blaming and bringing that
kind of violence into thesituation?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and I like what you just said then about
leaning into something that issomewhat difficult to challenge
in a lot of ways, because ourbelief systems, our egos are
going doesn't exist.
It's not a part of me.
I'm separate from that, butactually I'm not.
And I want to touch on yourbook slightly, because you
mentioned it twice now.
What's it called?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
because I don't know what it's called oh, it's called
love and light, a guide topeace and oneness and I'll put
that link in the in thedescription below and also in
the blogs.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I love that Guide to Oneness Awesome.
That link will be in the chatbelow.
Please check it out.
And if you want to pause thisright now and go back, please
write it down and just go andcheck it out.
When we look at resilience andresilience overcoming adversity
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in our own lives, you mentionedearlier about leaving a
relationship or walking out andstarting under fresh.
Many people have done it, butnot many people have done it
through alcoholism, drugs etc.
And that's a different take onit, because with that becomes
(14:30):
abuse, With it comes violence,as you said earlier, but also
with it becomes hope and courage.
Can you touch, if you will, ona bit of that turning point of
going?
I'm done now.
What?
What happened?
What was the pinnacle momentfor you going?
(14:53):
Time for a change.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wow, yeah, hope.
You mentioned hope and I wouldsay that I wasn't really
thinking.
I wasn't thinking, period.
And what happened to me is lifehappened to me, real, real time
, fast and furious Life happenedto me.
And real time, fast and furiousLife happened to me and what I
found myself is at a turningpoint.
(15:16):
And for me, what happened isthat I burned all the bridges
and I pushed away from thatrelationship, but I was left
with myself, like I played apart in that relationship, and I
found myself really with nofriendly direction to turn to.
I was alone and I didn't haveany idea how I got to where I
got to and I was willing to dothe next thing in front of me.
(15:41):
And so help came and I took it.
I took it.
Did I believe it?
Not necessarily had I livedthrough horrible things, oh, yes
, yes, very horrible atrocitiesthat I had lived through, but
none of them pushed me to thepoint where I thought you know
what I'm going to change my life.
But that day, that early, earlyday, I'll never forget it.
(16:05):
I was sitting there withnowhere to go and no one was
asking for me or calling for me.
Nowhere to go and no one wasasking for me or calling for me,
and that was a day that, whenhelp came, I took it and it was
like I called it pulling thethread.
That thread led to anotherthread, led to me actually
(16:28):
taking the action to change mylife, and I think it's a pivotal
place where you're alone, itfeels dark and you just cry out
for help.
And the help came.
It came in the form of people.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's a very powerful statement there.
I was just on a client callbefore we were speaking and the
person I was speaking to had aproblem with asking for help and
they couldn't, for a very longtime, muster up the courage to
say I need somebody tofacilitate me and hold me
(17:06):
accountable from going A to B.
But that moment of realisationwithin yourself of I need help,
what was that feeling like inthat moment?
Was it a weight on theshoulders?
What was it?
Did you cry?
Did you break down?
Did you just go through acelebration?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What happened for me was that I had doors closed on
me, my parents hanging up on me,another I was going to join the
army, my recruiter hanging upon me yelling at me.
Family, another family memberand nowhere to go, nowhere to
stay, no, nothing, no money,nothing but the clothes on my
(17:48):
back, shorts and a shirt,nothing but the clothes on my
back shorts and a shirt.
And it was through thatsituation I just felt I heard
about a place that they wouldtake me to stay there, and
that's where I went.
And from there, my life I had aspiritual experience and my
life changed.
And the spiritual experiences,I was able to hear where I
couldn't hear and I was able tosee where I couldn't see and
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take responsibility for theactions I had taken.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
See, what I couldn't see and take responsibility for
the actions I had taken.
So that moment where you startedto see the truth behind the
veil.
Some people call itclairvoyance or channeling.
There are many differentclairsentient gifts that we
actually possess as human beingsthat we don't tap into or we're
too scared to.
How does that show up in yourwork?
(18:33):
Today you're talking smallbusinesses, corporate sector.
How do you walk in front of acorporate ceo and go by the way?
Your life's fucked.
And this is why these gifts are.
They're not and they're.
Everybody possesses them, butwe choose, as you did, to step
into them with confidence anduse it as an empowerment to
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accompany all the other giftsthat go along with it to help
other people.
How does that show up in yourlife?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, I don't know if they know that it's showing up
in my life, but what happens isthat we connect and I don't know
, I'm not in charge of it, butwhen I'm able to talk to them I
seem to ask the right question.
That gets to their heart.
And once we start talking andthey are vulnerable with me and
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we, I help them.
I hold them in this space wherethey can let the thing that
they've been carrying in theirbackpack, they can take it out
and we can examine it together.
So I do that for people who andit happens sometimes in
conversations like this, it justhappens and I lean into it and
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it's not always business, andit's not always business and I
try to leave that service tothem, that love with them in
conversations, literally inconversations, one person
talking to another person.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And that makes you very real and approachable for a
lot of people who are, quitefrankly, scared, and scared of
mainly their own power, theirown shadows, their own thing,
the possibilities of what, ifit's very important, of what you
do, you keep doing it, becauseif you're not, I'm that person.
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm them.
We're the same person.
I was afraid of everything andanything, and so I started the
healing work to remove theshadows, to put them in the
light, to say, ok, that feelingdoesn't really feel like me, so
I think so.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm no different than theyare.
I may be a little bit ahead ofthem and I want to pull them up.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I may be a little bit ahead of them and I want to
pull them up.
Yeah, that's the differenceYou're ahead, but not egoically,
just in the journey of whereyou've come from, and that
service is very much neededtoday, in every aspect of the
world.
When I go to businesses and I'msure you're the same most of
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the problems and the systemsthat they're going through are a
result of something theleadership management are going
through externally in their ownlives.
Have you found that happeningin your, in your circles?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
absolutely.
Sometimes it's putting the cardbefore the horse, but I always
want to check in with people tosee how they're doing and,
authentically, we are whole,we're always whole, and so
anytime there's lack, then thatlack seems to move, that energy
seems to move into differentplaces.
So I find, when I do some workhere with local school districts
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, I do some work with theNational Park Service, that when
I'm able to talk to themauthentically and just tell them
this is what my intent is andmake sure that our intent is in
the same place, and then askthem about some of their things
that are going on with them andfold that work into the
improvement cycle of changingAll of that is possible,
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possible and for theirwell-being and health too.
So anyone I work with, I'masking them how are you doing,
what is going on with you?
Because it does inform theirwork that energy does transfer.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah no, I love and I think working with schools is
very important, and I mean, I'mnot for schools, I'm not that
person, but people like you whohave that nature they can go and
speak to the younger generationand be heard and seen in these
environments is very important.
If there's anything you wouldlike to give to the schools as a
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gift or as some advice, whatwould that be?
Generically, you don't have tobe specific.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
As some advice.
What would that be?
Generically and have to bespecific.
Yeah, I think schools we haveone job in schools in my career
in public schools and even inprivate schools is to care for
our constituents, which arethose littles right, and it
doesn't matter how old they are.
Those young souls needcultivating, they need love,
they need care, and one of thethings that we haven't really
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done for children is we haven'tlooked at them as little human
beings and we haven't helpedcultivate them as people, and so
one of the things that I thinkschools really need to do is
focus on kids who areexperiencing things that they're
not telling you.
We need to look at what traumasthey're bringing into the
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school.
Instead of trying to put abandaid on a major gash.
We need to examine hey, what'shappening with this student?
And it's really funny because Ihad created a tool for schools
to use and what I heard back was, if we use this tool to find
out what traumas that ourstudents may be carrying, we'll
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have to do something.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yes, Welcome to the real world.
That's what you're there to do.
You're not just teaching,you're nurturing the future I
want them to care.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I want them to care for students and families.
That's what I really want, yeah, but that's what I really want.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, but that's a hundred percent and that should
be in the focus of.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It should be in the goddamn job description when
they come to the to be employedyou would think I don't see care
in the job description andbecause of the systems, the way
that the organizationalstructure, sometimes it takes
out the heart.
I just want you to care.
I care as a teacher.
I cared as a teacher, I care asa teacher today, whatever I'm
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teaching, I care about mystudents.
I just that's what I wantschools to do.
And if you were, let's saythere's a crust built up between
you and care, then hey, let mehelp you with that, let's help
take away the crust so that wecan get to the care for you, for
management, for everyoneinvolved yeah, I love that
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message.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So if you're listening to this and you see an
issue within education,wherever you are, please care
front it.
Don't confront somethingbecause you cause more conflict.
If you go there with compassionand open heart but truth and
authenticity, you'recarefronting something and it
brings a more deeperconversation to the topic in
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hand.
And also, please reach out toLisa, because I'm not that
person.
I'm just not for many reasons.
We look at resilience andbuilding resilience.
Can you share with the audiencefive tips that you've learned
over the course of transitioningfrom where you were in that
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environment to what you're doingnow into the present moment,
not only to look forward, butwhat is that?
The tips you would share withthe audience from your own
experience.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I would say, for me, the first thing was
getting to know myself, likereally well, like being in touch
with my body.
And because of the way I grewup, I wasn't necessarily in
touch with my feelings, and sobeing in touch with your body
and knowing when your body istelling you something that
you're not ignoring that sothat's the first thing is
getting in touch with your body.
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How do you do that?
You start to listen to yourbody oh, I have a headache, oh,
that's nothing.
And you start to have aconversation and a relationship
with your body.
And one way that I did that isI did that through meditation,
through quiet time, throughguided meditations, through
walking and nature.
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I have many ways that I connectthrough music.
Music is a wonderful way for meto connect to myself and that
helps me to know myself better.
So when I get in situations andthere's things happening, I can
stand up for myself and I cancreate a boundary when something
is not working for me, insteadof just I'm just going to make
it through this, I can sayexcuse me, can I have a minute?
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That was my one of my besttools.
You know what Can I get back toyou?
And then I started to be ableto self-rescue.
The other thing is joy.
Joy is for us, but we don'texperience joy enough.
I started to look for joy.
I started to look for thingsthat I love doing.
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I started to look for thingsthat made me happy.
And then the other thing isservice to the world and those
around me and I want to love andbring that love to me.
And so that may be picking uptrash as I walk down the street,
that may be smiling or helping,asking somebody if I can I
(27:41):
carry your groceries for you,that may be, and it's all
authentic, and those things helpkeep me in my purpose on this
earth.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I love that, especially the joy.
I think that's overlooked in alot of people's lives these days
.
They get sucked into theperceived bad things or the
negative that's going on.
They fail sometimes to go.
What can I be grateful for?
What can I have enjoyment in mylife?
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Is it the kids?
Is it the grass?
Is it waking up?
Is it something simple?
And the thing about meditationyou said I advise every single
person in the world, if you'renot meditating, even 15 minutes
a day, of being present withyourself and just allowing
yourself to be 15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
All it takes as a start and it will change
beautiful it will change yourlife, it totally will change
your life and that that is oneof the most important things of
self, for the start ofself-awareness and also, I think
, self-acceptance.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
When we look at global movements and causes,
you're heavily into causes andgiving and being a center of
that.
If there was one globalmovement you could start today.
What would it be?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
wow, one global movement, what day.
I have a dream.
I I have a dream, much like drmartin luther king, I have a
dream, much like Dr MartinLuther King I have a dream that
in every city there's a placewhere people could go and be
heard and then they canexperience healing, and that
people would be there to welcomethem and care for them, much
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like you do on this podcast,make a safe space for them, and
that they can go there and theycan say the things they need to
say, that no one's going tojudge them, no one's going to
admonish them, but they're goingto care for them and help them
to heal.
That is a dream of mine I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I want to ask you something now that I don't know
if you have an answer to what isthe meaning of healing for you
the meaning, the meaning ofhealing for me is for me to be
my authentic self, my higherself, the self that's not human.
for me to be that being and toserve the purpose that I came
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here to do, I like that when welook at future and your
aspirations, where do you seeyourself or where do you want to
be Now?
You mentioned the globalmovement.
If you could facilitate that,how would you start that today
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could facilitate that, how would?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
you start that today.
I think one of the things andthis is just when you ask this,
because I just saw right beforewe got on some platform that
changes things into differentlanguages the work that I've
done around trauma healing andthe trauma instrument, the
assessment, to be transferredinto different languages and for
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people and also paper pencilwhere people can identify hey,
this may be in my backpack and Ididn't realize it and for
people to be able to have thathealing across the world, I
would love to see, years fromnow, that instrument is being
used globally, everywhere in anyaspect that it needed to be
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transferred to, and that thosehealing modalities are happening
everywhere, that there'straining for people who are
really interested in making ourworld better and that we're all
coming together in this hugesynergy to provide this love to
the world.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I love that.
I love.
One of the things I like aboutyou is your heart and whatever
you are doing, even on sharingthis with me, you're very
present with your heart, andthat's a rare, somewhat rare,
commodity in life.
We have an abrasive worldaround us.
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Is there anything you'd like toshare with the audience of?
If they want to get hold of you, or a tool they could use,
something that isn't tied up toyou, what do you want to share
with the world right now?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
it's entirely up to you.
What do you want to share withthe world right now?
I would say that to theaudience, that you are important
, you are loved, whether youfeel it or not, a hundred
percent loved, and if I wasgoing to give you something, I
would give you.
There's free meditation on mywebsite.
You can download it, and youcan get my book on my website
e-copy of the book for free, andwhat that book does is it tells
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you can get my book on mywebsite, an e-copy of the book,
for free, and what that bookdoes is it tells you how to have
a relationship with yourself,how to be quiet and how to take
away the things in the worldthat have you, as my, one of my
mentors is spinning on theoutside of the bicycle wheel.
We want to be in the middle andour world will spin us, but what
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I wish for you is I wish foryou peace and love and that you
are able to get those things,and you can look at my blogs,
look at my website.
I show my story about how Istarted walking down that road,
and I would love for you to walkdown it too.
You don't have to walk down itwith me, but just know it's
possible.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Could you just share the website with the audience so
they know where to go.
It will be in the link below.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It is lisaycollinsmynamecom.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Awesome.
Thank you very much, Lisa.
It's a privilege to have youhere today.
If there's anything else I cando for you, please reach out For
myself.
It was a joy for me.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Thank you very much for having me the privilege is
mine, lisa, I will assure you.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Thank you for sharing From everybody else.
If this inspired you, pleaseshare the message.
It's free.
If you'd like it, pleasesubscribe.
It isn't a lot of money, so Idon't know any of my cents and
it helps me carry on with thestuff that I'm doing.
I'm Baz Porter.
This was Lisa Collins.
Thank you very much for joiningus.
This is Rise from the Ashes andanother joyful episode From
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myself.
Live with purpose, my friends,and inspire with legacy.
Have a blessed day.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
Rise from the Ashes podcast.
I am your host, Baz Porter, andit is a privilege yet again to
be here today in front of youand with my next guest.
Her name is Lisa Collins.
She lives on the West Coast ofAmerica.
I'm going to let her, as always, introduce herself.
(00:21):
Lisa, it's a privilege to haveyou here.
Please introduce yourself tothe listeners and also the world
.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor.
My name is Lisa Collins.
I am a small business owner,assistant professor, an author
and a practitioner of healingtrauma healing, racial healing,
healing all around the board andI'm really honored to be with
you today.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now the honor is mine , firstly, and can you tell the
audience a bit about who you are?
And you mentioned you were alist of things.
What does that actually involve?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, I started off as a public educator and what
happened for me is that I burntout and I couldn't self-rescue,
and that began my study aroundtrauma, and in that time also, I
began to heighten my spiritualself, and what that did for me
(01:24):
is that allowed me to be able toconnect on a spiritual level to
help me to be able to live inmy purpose.
And so I work as assistantprofessor, I teach at leadership
, I'm an author of a spiritualbook and I really am service to
people who want to be their bestselves, and that's my story is
(01:45):
that I learned how to be betterand be on my path, and I know
other people want to do so too.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I love that.
When you came into ourcorporate doing this small
business thing many peoplestruggle with the transition
over.
Can you share a story that wasa mind-blowing career change for
you?
But what life lesson did itactually teach you in that
(02:12):
process?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, that's a great question.
For me, I had a small businessas necessity years ago and it
was to be able to do some workfor the city at one point and I
needed a business.
That's how I started mybusiness, but what happened in
probably 2019 or around there,is that I had experienced some
(02:36):
corporate discrimination and Ihad applied for a job and the
job was taken away.
I got the job and it wasrescinded, and what happened is
all of this business startedcoming to me, like the universe
sent all this business, and whatI had to do is I had to take a
breath and I had to trust.
I had to trust.
(02:58):
I call it being in the tunnel.
I am in the tunnel and I wantto see the other end of the
tunnel, but there's somethingabout trust, about just trusting
what is happening right now andjust being in my skin in this
day, and that was the launch ofthe business I have today.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So you mentioned trust and the horrific stigma of
racism in today's, not just inthe corporate world.
It exists everywhere thathumans exist.
How did you start trustingyourself through that stigma of
being I'm going to air quotethis because I believe this but
(03:43):
the minority in what you weredoing?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Wow, that's a great question.
I hit my knees like I wasfloored by what was going on and
any kind of human power I hadto grasp to rise myself up, to
fight, to go to court, to do allof those things at the core of
me.
To fight, to go to court, to doall of those things At the core
of me.
I needed to just be still, andby being still at the core I
(04:10):
could start to apply some of thethings that I had learned
around trauma.
It's like you are on the cyclesof trauma right now.
You need to break free byhaving a healing community of
support.
And then I took a breath.
It is our breath that justcarries me into the next moment.
And by me taking a breath andstanding still, then the answer
(04:34):
started to come.
I just said yes to whatevercame in my screen, if it felt
right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I love that.
I mean that takes a hell of alot of courage to step into that
space.
I love that.
I mean that takes a hell of alot of courage to step into that
space.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And especially in today's world.
When you look at your companynow and what you've formed over
the years, what makes it sounique and what drives what
gravitates people towards whatyou do know, I think very
similar to yourself.
I am working from the heart.
I'm working from the heart andI want to be of service to
people.
It's not about what they can dofor me, it's really about what
can we help together, and I'mnot canned, it's not.
(05:23):
If you come to work with me,then I have this canned pitch
that I'm going to do with you.
We talk and then we form whatyou need.
And to me I'm authentically ofservice in this way to be there
for people in a way to help themconnect to their greatest good,
and that is unique, I think, inbusiness.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, it is unfortunately because people
don't see things the same asothers, and this is conflict
arises.
So what you do is veryimportant, I believe, and having
that approach, differentapproach to it.
When you were going through thetransition of learning to do
what you're doing now, trustingwho you are, to do what you're
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doing now, trusting who you are,was there anybody that really
helped you or guide you intothat?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
into the space you're in now.
Yeah, there was.
There were a number of peoplethat really helped me.
One of the things that I didright away is that I thought I
need to get rid of this racialtrauma.
I don't want to carry it aroundin my body anymore.
I want to be free of it.
And when I went to get helpfrom a lady who is the founder
of Conscious Freedom LifeCoaching, I interviewed her At
(06:34):
least I thought I wasinterviewing her the way the
universe works, as I heard myfriend say, this person for two
years and she's pretty good andI said I'll be the judge of that
and I'll let you know right now.
That didn't work out the way Ithought.
I went to interview her and shesaid to me why did you stay so
long in a place that was harmingyou?
And I didn't have an answer forher and we began to work
(06:56):
together and through ConsciousFreedom Life Coaching I was able
to heal my past traumas so Icould heal my racial trauma.
That is a very important toolbecause we want to heal racial
trauma first all of us but wehave to go back and do the
foundational work.
That was foundational and alsointerpersonal neurobiology,
(07:19):
studying here with apractitioner for a year that
helped me get down to the rootcauses and my what they call
mothering other pathways that Ihad needed to rebuild or heal,
and that helped me.
And then I'd say there's manythings, but lastly I'd say
energy medicine.
I had no idea what energymedicine was, and the way that
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it was introduced to me is thatmy heart was racing and I was
standing still.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And instead of being the snarky I don't believe in
that it was made real to me inthat moment where my friend
brought my heart rate down threetimes in one day when we look
at quantum physics which is whatthat is at the basis level of
it and we look at division orracism, how would you say the
(08:10):
two combine to help, firstly, bepresent to what the issues are?
And secondly, how do you usethat to heal not just the now
the but, as you said earlier,the generational side of it?
But going back into thevibration of the DNA?
(08:31):
of it to go, is that?
Me or isn't it me?
What's really real?
What isn't real?
Could you speak to that, if youwill?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, that is wow.
I mean there has been a lot ofhealing that I've done to just
undo the past and past lives.
So at first I thought it was me.
So first of all I needed to dowhat has happened in this
lifetime and I worked on that.
What has happened harm in thislifetime Then for me, I needed
(09:00):
to go and forgive.
I needed to go and forgive.
Once I got toward the healing,give back the shame and then
forgive myself, ask forforgiveness for me and then
forgive the people.
That frees up energy in my bodyto do different things.
And then from there then Ineeded to lean into where am I
(09:22):
going to bring this energy intoour world today and how am I
going to help other people dowhat I've done so that we can
have a synergy around movingforward?
I have no idea what I was inpast lifetimes.
I could have been a man in pastlifetimes.
I could have been a white manin past lifetimes, but to really
(09:43):
lean into the energy of ourcommunity well-being instead of
the isolation that we're not one.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What I like about this subject is the way you
presented that and therealization from yourself of
we're a collective, we arespiritual beings having a human
experience.
David Corbin, who is the mentorof mentors if you've ever heard
of him, look him up.
If you haven't heard of him,he's done multiple books he said
(10:13):
to me once we are entrepreneurshaving a spiritual experience.
Steve Jobs said the same thingmany years ago.
That defining moment of we areenergy and we come from that
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place and the experiences thatwe've had have influences on us
now.
But they also build resilienceand they build grit or stamina,
and that is what most smallbusiness owners, entrepreneurs,
have different from, say, thecorporate world or most people
in the corporate world, becausethey have a limitation in the
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corporate world that you'regoing to live at wage nine till
five or whatever you're workingwith.
But that recognition ofresilience within your life, how
did that start to show up,especially with this delicate
subject of race and color,because that's prevalent in this
day and age and it's used as aweapon a lot of the times to
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belittle people and keep them inthis framework of.
You're not good enough, but youand I both right true.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it first showed up when my life left the
path of I talked about earlierwith you, about my marriage my
first marriage and it wasriddled with alcoholism and drug
addiction.
And being able to leave thatand take a path that your life
is completely changing, thatgives a resilience there that
(11:50):
you know things can change.
When I think about, when I lookat you and when this is the
thing that really captured me isthat if you are hurting, I am
hurting.
And when I got to that point Isaid, oh, this is not about race
, this is not about how we look,this is about who we are, about
(12:13):
our spiritual oneness, and thatif you're hurting and I'm not
hurting, that's not okay.
And that's the message that isin the book that the spiritual
book I wrote.
It's not I came through me,it's not from me, that we are
one and that is the place thatwe need to get to all people and
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it's our collective work.
And it's really hard to getthere because people want to do
the surface stuff first.
They want to talk about theharm and spin in the harm.
So I work with people on whoare you, do you know how to
recognize your own feelings?
Do you know when you're in andout of the cycles of trauma?
And then let's start with that.
(12:58):
After that, how do you leaninto because we know conflict is
something that needs moreinformation how do you lean into
the discourse without attackingand blaming and bringing that
kind of violence into thesituation?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and I like what you just said then about
leaning into something that issomewhat difficult to challenge
in a lot of ways, because ourbelief systems, our egos are
going doesn't exist.
It's not a part of me.
I'm separate from that, butactually I'm not.
And I want to touch on yourbook slightly, because you
mentioned it twice now.
What's it called?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
because I don't know what it's called oh, it's called
love and light, a guide topeace and oneness and I'll put
that link in the in thedescription below and also in
the blogs.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I love that Guide to Oneness Awesome.
That link will be in the chatbelow.
Please check it out.
And if you want to pause thisright now and go back, please
write it down and just go andcheck it out.
When we look at resilience andresilience overcoming adversity
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in our own lives, you mentionedearlier about leaving a
relationship or walking out andstarting under fresh.
Many people have done it, butnot many people have done it
through alcoholism, drugs etc.
And that's a different take onit, because with that becomes
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abuse, With it comes violence,as you said earlier, but also
with it becomes hope and courage.
Can you touch, if you will, ona bit of that turning point of
going?
I'm done now.
What?
What happened?
What was the pinnacle momentfor you going?
(14:53):
Time for a change.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wow, yeah, hope.
You mentioned hope and I wouldsay that I wasn't really
thinking.
I wasn't thinking, period.
And what happened to me is lifehappened to me, real, real time
, fast and furious Life happenedto me.
And real time, fast and furiousLife happened to me and what I
found myself is at a turningpoint.
(15:16):
And for me, what happened isthat I burned all the bridges
and I pushed away from thatrelationship, but I was left
with myself, like I played apart in that relationship, and I
found myself really with nofriendly direction to turn to.
I was alone and I didn't haveany idea how I got to where I
got to and I was willing to dothe next thing in front of me.
(15:41):
And so help came and I took it.
I took it.
Did I believe it?
Not necessarily had I livedthrough horrible things, oh, yes
, yes, very horrible atrocitiesthat I had lived through, but
none of them pushed me to thepoint where I thought you know
what I'm going to change my life.
But that day, that early, earlyday, I'll never forget it.
(16:05):
I was sitting there withnowhere to go and no one was
asking for me or calling for me.
Nowhere to go and no one wasasking for me or calling for me,
and that was a day that, whenhelp came, I took it and it was
like I called it pulling thethread.
That thread led to anotherthread, led to me actually
(16:28):
taking the action to change mylife, and I think it's a pivotal
place where you're alone, itfeels dark and you just cry out
for help.
And the help came.
It came in the form of people.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's a very powerful statement there.
I was just on a client callbefore we were speaking and the
person I was speaking to had aproblem with asking for help and
they couldn't, for a very longtime, muster up the courage to
say I need somebody tofacilitate me and hold me
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accountable from going A to B.
But that moment of realisationwithin yourself of I need help,
what was that feeling like inthat moment?
Was it a weight on theshoulders?
What was it?
Did you cry?
Did you break down?
Did you just go through acelebration?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What happened for me was that I had doors closed on
me, my parents hanging up on me,another I was going to join the
army, my recruiter hanging upon me yelling at me.
Family, another family memberand nowhere to go, nowhere to
stay, no, nothing, no money,nothing but the clothes on my
(17:48):
back, shorts and a shirt,nothing but the clothes on my
back shorts and a shirt.
And it was through thatsituation I just felt I heard
about a place that they wouldtake me to stay there, and
that's where I went.
And from there, my life I had aspiritual experience and my
life changed.
And the spiritual experiences,I was able to hear where I
couldn't hear and I was able tosee where I couldn't see and
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take responsibility for theactions I had taken.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
See, what I couldn't see and take responsibility for
the actions I had taken.
So that moment where you startedto see the truth behind the
veil.
Some people call itclairvoyance or channeling.
There are many differentclairsentient gifts that we
actually possess as human beingsthat we don't tap into or we're
too scared to.
How does that show up in yourwork?
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Today you're talking smallbusinesses, corporate sector.
How do you walk in front of acorporate ceo and go by the way?
Your life's fucked.
And this is why these gifts are.
They're not and they're.
Everybody possesses them, butwe choose, as you did, to step
into them with confidence anduse it as an empowerment to
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accompany all the other giftsthat go along with it to help
other people.
How does that show up in yourlife?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, I don't know if they know that it's showing up
in my life, but what happens isthat we connect and I don't know
, I'm not in charge of it, butwhen I'm able to talk to them I
seem to ask the right question.
That gets to their heart.
And once we start talking andthey are vulnerable with me and
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we, I help them.
I hold them in this space wherethey can let the thing that
they've been carrying in theirbackpack, they can take it out
and we can examine it together.
So I do that for people who andit happens sometimes in
conversations like this, it justhappens and I lean into it and
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it's not always business, andit's not always business and I
try to leave that service tothem, that love with them in
conversations, literally inconversations, one person
talking to another person.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And that makes you very real and approachable for a
lot of people who are, quitefrankly, scared, and scared of
mainly their own power, theirown shadows, their own thing,
the possibilities of what, ifit's very important, of what you
do, you keep doing it, becauseif you're not, I'm that person.
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm them.
We're the same person.
I was afraid of everything andanything, and so I started the
healing work to remove theshadows, to put them in the
light, to say, ok, that feelingdoesn't really feel like me, so
I think so.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm no different than theyare.
I may be a little bit ahead ofthem and I want to pull them up.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I may be a little bit ahead of them and I want to
pull them up.
Yeah, that's the differenceYou're ahead, but not egoically,
just in the journey of whereyou've come from, and that
service is very much neededtoday, in every aspect of the
world.
When I go to businesses and I'msure you're the same most of
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the problems and the systemsthat they're going through are a
result of something theleadership management are going
through externally in their ownlives.
Have you found that happeningin your, in your circles?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
absolutely.
Sometimes it's putting the cardbefore the horse, but I always
want to check in with people tosee how they're doing and,
authentically, we are whole,we're always whole, and so
anytime there's lack, then thatlack seems to move, that energy
seems to move into differentplaces.
So I find, when I do some workhere with local school districts
(21:48):
, I do some work with theNational Park Service, that when
I'm able to talk to themauthentically and just tell them
this is what my intent is andmake sure that our intent is in
the same place, and then askthem about some of their things
that are going on with them andfold that work into the
improvement cycle of changingAll of that is possible,
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possible and for theirwell-being and health too.
So anyone I work with, I'masking them how are you doing,
what is going on with you?
Because it does inform theirwork that energy does transfer.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah no, I love and I think working with schools is
very important, and I mean, I'mnot for schools, I'm not that
person, but people like you whohave that nature they can go and
speak to the younger generationand be heard and seen in these
environments is very important.
If there's anything you wouldlike to give to the schools as a
(22:45):
gift or as some advice, whatwould that be?
Generically, you don't have tobe specific.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
As some advice.
What would that be?
Generically and have to bespecific.
Yeah, I think schools we haveone job in schools in my career
in public schools and even inprivate schools is to care for
our constituents, which arethose littles right, and it
doesn't matter how old they are.
Those young souls needcultivating, they need love,
they need care, and one of thethings that we haven't really
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done for children is we haven'tlooked at them as little human
beings and we haven't helpedcultivate them as people, and so
one of the things that I thinkschools really need to do is
focus on kids who areexperiencing things that they're
not telling you.
We need to look at what traumasthey're bringing into the
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school.
Instead of trying to put abandaid on a major gash.
We need to examine hey, what'shappening with this student?
And it's really funny because Ihad created a tool for schools
to use and what I heard back was, if we use this tool to find
out what traumas that ourstudents may be carrying, we'll
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have to do something.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yes, Welcome to the real world.
That's what you're there to do.
You're not just teaching,you're nurturing the future I
want them to care.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I want them to care for students and families.
That's what I really want, yeah, but that's what I really want.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, but that's a hundred percent and that should
be in the focus of.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It should be in the goddamn job description when
they come to the to be employedyou would think I don't see care
in the job description andbecause of the systems, the way
that the organizationalstructure, sometimes it takes
out the heart.
I just want you to care.
I care as a teacher.
I cared as a teacher, I care asa teacher today, whatever I'm
(24:34):
teaching, I care about mystudents.
I just that's what I wantschools to do.
And if you were, let's saythere's a crust built up between
you and care, then hey, let mehelp you with that, let's help
take away the crust so that wecan get to the care for you, for
management, for everyoneinvolved yeah, I love that
(24:56):
message.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So if you're listening to this and you see an
issue within education,wherever you are, please care
front it.
Don't confront somethingbecause you cause more conflict.
If you go there with compassionand open heart but truth and
authenticity, you'recarefronting something and it
brings a more deeperconversation to the topic in
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hand.
And also, please reach out toLisa, because I'm not that
person.
I'm just not for many reasons.
We look at resilience andbuilding resilience.
Can you share with the audiencefive tips that you've learned
over the course of transitioningfrom where you were in that
(25:45):
environment to what you're doingnow into the present moment,
not only to look forward, butwhat is that?
The tips you would share withthe audience from your own
experience.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I would say, for me, the first thing was
getting to know myself, likereally well, like being in touch
with my body.
And because of the way I grewup, I wasn't necessarily in
touch with my feelings, and sobeing in touch with your body
and knowing when your body istelling you something that
you're not ignoring that sothat's the first thing is
getting in touch with your body.
(26:17):
How do you do that?
You start to listen to yourbody oh, I have a headache, oh,
that's nothing.
And you start to have aconversation and a relationship
with your body.
And one way that I did that isI did that through meditation,
through quiet time, throughguided meditations, through
walking and nature.
(26:38):
I have many ways that I connectthrough music.
Music is a wonderful way for meto connect to myself and that
helps me to know myself better.
So when I get in situations andthere's things happening, I can
stand up for myself and I cancreate a boundary when something
is not working for me, insteadof just I'm just going to make
it through this, I can sayexcuse me, can I have a minute?
(27:00):
That was my one of my besttools.
You know what Can I get back toyou?
And then I started to be ableto self-rescue.
The other thing is joy.
Joy is for us, but we don'texperience joy enough.
I started to look for joy.
I started to look for thingsthat I love doing.
(27:21):
I started to look for thingsthat made me happy.
And then the other thing isservice to the world and those
around me and I want to love andbring that love to me.
And so that may be picking uptrash as I walk down the street,
that may be smiling or helping,asking somebody if I can I
(27:41):
carry your groceries for you,that may be, and it's all
authentic, and those things helpkeep me in my purpose on this
earth.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I love that, especially the joy.
I think that's overlooked in alot of people's lives these days
.
They get sucked into theperceived bad things or the
negative that's going on.
They fail sometimes to go.
What can I be grateful for?
What can I have enjoyment in mylife?
(28:12):
Is it the kids?
Is it the grass?
Is it waking up?
Is it something simple?
And the thing about meditationyou said I advise every single
person in the world, if you'renot meditating, even 15 minutes
a day, of being present withyourself and just allowing
yourself to be 15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
All it takes as a start and it will change
beautiful it will change yourlife, it totally will change
your life and that that is oneof the most important things of
self, for the start ofself-awareness and also, I think
, self-acceptance.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
When we look at global movements and causes,
you're heavily into causes andgiving and being a center of
that.
If there was one globalmovement you could start today.
What would it be?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
wow, one global movement, what day.
I have a dream.
I I have a dream, much like drmartin luther king, I have a
dream, much like Dr MartinLuther King I have a dream that
in every city there's a placewhere people could go and be
heard and then they canexperience healing, and that
people would be there to welcomethem and care for them, much
(29:32):
like you do on this podcast,make a safe space for them, and
that they can go there and theycan say the things they need to
say, that no one's going tojudge them, no one's going to
admonish them, but they're goingto care for them and help them
to heal.
That is a dream of mine I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I want to ask you something now that I don't know
if you have an answer to what isthe meaning of healing for you
the meaning, the meaning ofhealing for me is for me to be
my authentic self, my higherself, the self that's not human.
for me to be that being and toserve the purpose that I came
(30:16):
here to do, I like that when welook at future and your
aspirations, where do you seeyourself or where do you want to
be Now?
You mentioned the globalmovement.
If you could facilitate that,how would you start that today
(30:38):
could facilitate that, how would?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
you start that today.
I think one of the things andthis is just when you ask this,
because I just saw right beforewe got on some platform that
changes things into differentlanguages the work that I've
done around trauma healing andthe trauma instrument, the
assessment, to be transferredinto different languages and for
(31:03):
people and also paper pencilwhere people can identify hey,
this may be in my backpack and Ididn't realize it and for
people to be able to have thathealing across the world, I
would love to see, years fromnow, that instrument is being
used globally, everywhere in anyaspect that it needed to be
(31:26):
transferred to, and that thosehealing modalities are happening
everywhere, that there'straining for people who are
really interested in making ourworld better and that we're all
coming together in this hugesynergy to provide this love to
the world.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I love that.
I love.
One of the things I like aboutyou is your heart and whatever
you are doing, even on sharingthis with me, you're very
present with your heart, andthat's a rare, somewhat rare,
commodity in life.
We have an abrasive worldaround us.
(32:04):
Is there anything you'd like toshare with the audience of?
If they want to get hold of you, or a tool they could use,
something that isn't tied up toyou, what do you want to share
with the world right now?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
it's entirely up to you.
What do you want to share withthe world right now?
I would say that to theaudience, that you are important
, you are loved, whether youfeel it or not, a hundred
percent loved, and if I wasgoing to give you something, I
would give you.
There's free meditation on mywebsite.
You can download it, and youcan get my book on my website
e-copy of the book for free, andwhat that book does is it tells
(32:40):
you can get my book on mywebsite, an e-copy of the book,
for free, and what that bookdoes is it tells you how to have
a relationship with yourself,how to be quiet and how to take
away the things in the worldthat have you, as my, one of my
mentors is spinning on theoutside of the bicycle wheel.
We want to be in the middle andour world will spin us, but what
(33:04):
I wish for you is I wish foryou peace and love and that you
are able to get those things,and you can look at my blogs,
look at my website.
I show my story about how Istarted walking down that road,
and I would love for you to walkdown it too.
You don't have to walk down itwith me, but just know it's
possible.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Could you just share the website with the audience so
they know where to go.
It will be in the link below.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It is lisaycollinsmynamecom.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Awesome.
Thank you very much, Lisa.
It's a privilege to have youhere today.
If there's anything else I cando for you, please reach out For
myself.
It was a joy for me.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Thank you very much for having me the privilege is
mine, lisa, I will assure you.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Thank you for sharing From everybody else.
If this inspired you, pleaseshare the message.
It's free.
If you'd like it, pleasesubscribe.
It isn't a lot of money, so Idon't know any of my cents and
it helps me carry on with thestuff that I'm doing.
I'm Baz Porter.
This was Lisa Collins.
Thank you very much for joiningus.
This is Rise from the Ashes andanother joyful episode From
(34:03):
myself.
Live with purpose, my friends,and inspire with legacy.
Have a blessed day.
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