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March 9, 2025 17 mins

Burnout isn’t the end it’s the beginning of something greater. In this episode of Rise From the Ashes: Burnout to Brilliance, visionary leader Catherine Bell shares how she transformed personal tragedy into leadership mastery. Her journey reveals the power of mental management, mentorship, and shifting from “how” to “who” in achieving lasting success.

Key Takeaways from Catherine Bell’s Leadership Philosophy:

Mental Mastery Over Emotion: Learn how Catherine harnessed emotional resilience to lead with clarity and purpose.
Mentorship as a Success Multiplier: The right mentors shape your future Catherine shares how to choose wisely.
The “Who, Not How” Paradigm Shift: Instead of asking how to solve a problem, ask who can help solve it.

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Catherine’s story isn’t just about overcoming adversity it’s about using it as fuel to elevate others. After the profound loss of her husband, she redefined leadership by embedding love, community, and purposeful action into her daily life. She challenges us all to leave people better than we found them.

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✅ Use spiritual alignment to fuel resilience and purpose.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to part two Rice
from the Ashes.
Burnout to Brilliance these arestrategies for leadership and
overcoming adversity in people'slives.
My current guest, catherineBell, has shared her tragic loss
of her husband, but also herresilience and passion for
non-profits, hedge funds andinspiring other people through

(00:23):
her own journeys in life.
Burnout isn't a sign ofweakness.
It's a sign and a call to rise.
Join a movement today.
Join courageous leaders such asCatherine, transforming lives
and changing them.
So subscribe, you're not alone,and welcome to the family,

(00:43):
catherine.
Welcome back.
How are you feeling?
You're not alone and welcome tothe family, catherine.
Welcome back.
How are you feeling?
You're still good.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
So happy to be here with you.
I love these conversations.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's a privilege and I mean that with the deepest
respect it's a privilege and anhonor to have you here.
I want to touch on strategic,tactical strategies.
I'll kind of bloody say it now.
Tactical strategies what arethe three game-changing
strategies that you had as aleader or CEO in your companies

(01:14):
but you had to implement todayand then manage the leadership
and lead from a very effectiveplace?
Bear in mind, you run hedgefunds, you've got communities,
you're at the head of your gamein your industries because you
have several.
What are the main strategicleadership challenges that you

(01:35):
have and how do you employ themfor to help you and others
around you?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So the first one is this right here, what's going on
in between my ears, like thatis the number one thing I have
to deal with every day isconstantly managing for that.
Kick my ass to make sure I amhaving accurate thinking.
That's what it comes down to.

(02:11):
That's like number one.
And with that comes an enormousamount of like reading and
education.
And again, whoever I can bementored by and it doesn't
necessarily mean mentored likeone-on-one, face-to-face by, and
it doesn't necessarily meanmentored like one on one, face
to face, like in my mind all ofthese books that I've read, all
these brilliant authors, they'veall been a part of mentoring me
and who I've become as a woman,right, so that I'm deeply

(02:33):
grateful for.
So that is number two.
It's like the mentors and thepeople that we surround
ourselves by.
We become like the five peoplewe spend the most time with.
And again, it's the physical,but it's also what are we
putting into our minds?
What are we watching on TV?
What are we listening to?
What is it that we're consuming?
Because those voices willimpact us.
So I'm extremely mindful aboutwho I allow to impact me, my

(02:59):
mind, my body, my spirit, myheart, like all of it.
That's like number two.
And then it's making sure.
It's one of my favorite books.
It's who, not how, by DanSullivan, that when we, when I
stopped being arrogant andasking the question, how do I do

(03:20):
this?
And I started being moremindful and asking wait a second
, who already knows how to dothis?
That I can just ask them andsomehow collaborate so that we
can create this together, that'swhen everything shifted.
So I'm I stopped.
I just again, I had to likethat.
Whatever that ego part is thatI had to have, I had to know all

(03:43):
the hows.
That's ridiculous.
There's no way in the world.
I'm pretty smart, but there'sno way in the world I'm going to
know how to do everything.
But I know a lot of people whoknow how to do all the things.
And so that leads to the otherpiece, which is all about
community and making sure thatagain leave every person,

(04:03):
property and community betterthan I found them, and having
people understand that yourreputation precedes you, whether
you like it or not, and younever know a conversation or an
interaction or relationship thatyou had 20 years ago, how it
literally could come full circleand either help you or hinder
you based on how you left thatperson.

(04:27):
So I challenge everybody what ifevery single person you
interacted with, from the personat Starbucks or the person at
the grocery store, the person inthe boardroom, or like anybody
what if you actually left everysingle person, better than you
found them?
What if you did that?

(04:48):
Then what would this world looklike?
Because, again, more times thanI can count, I know people who
walk into rooms and becausethey've been so horrible to
other people, the doors areimmediately shut and then I can
walk into the same room anddoors are completely opened.
Not because of my experience,not because of my resume,
anything like that, but itliterally has been because of

(05:11):
how I've left those people inthe past 100 percent and I love
what you just said.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's the way you make people feel that people
remember Not what you did.
It doesn't matter what actionsyou did or anything else.
It's the way you make them feelthey will always remember.
Learning off other people isoften a pathway to uber success.
But uber success takes aminimum of about 15 years in the

(05:42):
making.
Anybody you see that successfulhas been on the grind for about
15 years in the making.
Anybody you see that successfulhas been on the grind for about
15 years, probably more so theGary V's, grant Cardone's, et
cetera, et cetera becausethey've all been in the grind.
But they have a component thatmost people don't know about and
it's a spiritual legacy.
It's an alignment within themand we touched on this earlier

(06:09):
that drives you forward.
You mentioned earlier in partone about the vision board and
making the dream and thecomponents for that, all these
things connecting.
But you have a bigger visionfor yourself, for your family,
but you also have to align yourvalues with it In your world.

(06:31):
How do your values and yourbelief system inspire not just
yourself but other people, andhow do they drive and rule your
life or bring your authenticself forward?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
so it's funny because I actually just did date with
destiny.
So I've done all of TonyRobbins work, but that was the
last one I hadn't done andeverybody kept telling me it was
the one and that was a game andthey weren't wrong.
I'm like, oh my.
God, I go do this and go throughthe values, and so, for me, my
number one is love.
It all comes down to love, andI I believe to my core.

(07:10):
And I don't know where thiscomes from.
I didn't read it, I didn't like.
It's just something inside ofme that I believe that every
single person on this planet hasa purpose to be here.
And how do you find your purpose?
It is that nagging questionthat is inside of us that we
constantly ask quietly when, orwho is like, when is somebody

(07:36):
going to do something about that?
And I believe that questionthat you ask over and over the
when is something that somebodygoing to do something about that
?
Because you're the person, it'syou.
Like when I kept asking when issomebody going to do something
about all these adoptablechildren in the foster care
system?
And like when?

(07:56):
When?
Seriously, come on, we havebillions of dollars being poured
into this, the government'sinvolved.
All these people Like when?
Oh wait, it was me, little me.
I'm nothing special, nothingLike, there's nothing.
You know what I mean?
I'm just a woman.
I'm just a woman who was bornin Canada, came to the United

(08:19):
States, did all the things.
Again, there's nothinginherently magical about me,
except for the fact was to thecore of my being that nagging
keeps me awake at night.
So it must be me that I.
That is my purpose, and Ibelieve everybody has a nagging

(08:40):
question like that.
And if we told ourselves thetruth about it and then actually
got the courage to do somethingabout it now what would our
world look like?
But how many people have thecourage to get quiet enough to

(09:02):
hear the question and then to dosomething about it?
And I don't have all the piecesfigured out and I had a call
this morning with somebody elseand we're figuring the pieces
out because I don't know the how, I just know the what.
And I know, like I know, with2.1 million families looking to

(09:23):
adopt there's more than 350,000congregations in this country,
350,000 congregations in thiscountry if each church found one
family to adopt one child, wecould get this done in my
lifetime.
And I also know, like I know,that those children out there
that are praying for families tolove them because it isn't

(09:43):
their fault that they're in thissituation, that what if 1%,
just 1% of those kids, that'd be3,500 kids that grow up and are
inspired just like me, thatjust because they have a family
that love them, they decide togo make a difference in the
world.
I believe that to the core ofmy being.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I love what you're saying here and again.
If the people who can't see thevideo I've got a stupid little
grin in my face that I look likea five-year-old going to a
tweet store.
Why I have that is because thepassion that Catherine has, it's
the belief beyond the belief,it's an internal knowing, it's a
compass pointing to the truenorth.

(10:29):
And if there's a friend of mineI know a few people that says
why not me?
Why not me?
And to Catherine's point, ifyou're asking why not and you
have a bigger burning question,the answer to this Catherine's

(10:51):
discovering it.
She's discovered portions of itand layers to it, but there's
always a bigger why.
Love is a component, the drivingforce is so many components,
but the spiritual side of it andthat spiritualism let me just
define that isn't just a thing,it's an energy that is driving

(11:14):
every single human being onearth.
I have a concept called amillion dreams, and it's not my
a million dreams, it's yours.
It's about you providing forother people your deepest,
darkest desires.
That's what that platform isgoing to do, but it takes bold

(11:36):
action to create it.
It takes courage, resilienceand learning.
And also, to Catherine's point,earlier collaboration.
The collaboration part isthrough podcasts, through
conversations, through empathyand understanding.
If you were to do it all overagain, catherine, and you had to

(12:03):
transform, would be anythingyou would do differently and if
so, why?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I would have trusted myself sooner and dove in sooner
.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And that is an honest answer.
And I know that because theamount of time you actually took
to pause and think about whatyou were going to say, you
weren't just thinking, you werefeeling how to present that
answer.
What would be the advice youwould give to someone going
through a challenging time rightnow?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
To ask the question who has already been through
this and reach out and have anhonest conversation with them?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And if someone wanted to reach out to you, catherine,
and they're hearing this.
How would be the best way to dothat?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So here's what I love you can actually have a
conversation with me 24-7,doesn't matter what time of the
day or night.
Go to CatherineBellai and I amthere and she's my clone and she
literally answers everything.
It's like all of my knowledgeand wisdom is there, and all of

(13:26):
my friends, family, everybody'shaving mind-blowing
conversations.
And there you go, you can havea conversation with her I love
that.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I love it.
And someone wants to call youor get hold of your website book
.
Obviously, the books are goingto be underneath.
Uh, please go and check themout and have a conversation.
Where else could they get holdof you?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm all over social media.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I'm everywhere, yeah, my website Titan Impact Group.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
But yeah, I'm everywhere.
I'm pretty accessible.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I know you've got the books coming up.
What's the next game for you?
What's the next stage?
What's the next level?
What's the next Catherine Belllevel.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's continuing to.
We have our debt validationfund, so we're raising the $50
million helping these 33,000families, and so it's for
accredited investors only.
If you wanna learn about moreabout that, let me know.
It's pretty extraordinary to beable to do good and do well at
the same time, so I'm excitedabout that.
That's a really big thing.

(14:21):
And then, of course, the books,and then, of course, the
nonprofit in anybody that wantsto be involved, either volunteer
or donate or anything to be apart of this mission of getting
these 350,000 children adoptedand it's not just adopting right
.
Obviously, we're having toraise the money from donations
so that we can pour that intoall the nonprofit adoption

(14:43):
agencies that are facilitatingall of this.
But you can become a CASAmember, you can become a
volunteer to help these familieshave some reprieve from the
kids, and there's just so manydifferent ways that people can
actually help.
So if you're interested, let meknow and I can show you all the
ways that you can be a part ofthe solution.
Because, again, no child everneeds to experience black trash

(15:07):
bag day ever yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And for those people who are skeptical, come and get
a conversation with me.
I'm fairly accessible as well,and if you have a conversation
with me, I'll connect you withkatherine very happily for
myself.
Katherine, you're awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thank you very much for joining me again I'm gonna
spread this message far and widefor my listeners.
Thank you very much for joiningme again.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm going to spread this message far and wide for my
listeners.
Thank you very much for tuningin, sharing the message and
listening.
Please download it, leave alittle review and I'm happy to
receive it.
And also, I love feedback,because feedback makes the world
go around and it makes mebigger.
Do better.
I want to answer the questionsthat you're asking.
Burnout isn't isn't justburnout.

(15:47):
It's stealing your energy andit's stealing your brilliance,
your purpose and your legacy.
Leadership is too important tolet burnout win.
So subscribe and join amovement, not just a podcast.
The leaders are transformingburnout into brilliance, purpose
and generational impact.
Ladies and gentlemen, your risestarts today.

(16:10):
Thank you very much for anotherepisode of Rise from the Ashes
podcast, and thank you very much, catherine, for joining me once
again here.
Much love, blessings and havean amazing day on purpose.
Speak soon.
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