February 5, 2025 • 16 mins
Burnout isn’t the end of the road it’s a powerful call to action. In The DNA of Leadership With Len May (Part 2), Len May, CEO of EndoDNA, shares his transformative journey from exhaustion to empowerment. Discover how burnout can be a catalyst for growth, offering a unique opportunity to reclaim your energy, focus, and sense of purpose.
This episode dives into practical strategies for leaders and high achievers, including the power of celebrating wins, Tony Robbins’ “chunking” method for managing tasks, and the role of physical activity in maintaining momentum. Len also explores the concept of flow state, inspired by Stephen Kotler, and how activities like hiking can spark creativity and clarity.
Through actionable insights, Len reveals how vibrational energy, self-awareness, and visualization practices can help you reset, reimagine, and lead with purpose. Whether you’re facing burnout or looking to amplify your leadership impact, this episode is your guide to resilience, brilliance, and legacy-driven success.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to part two of
Arise from the Ashes.
This is season five.
I think it's episode three orfour, can't really remember.
Anyway, we're here with Len May, and in the first part of this
we rediscovered Len's story ofburnout.
Bear in mind, he's beeninterviewed with me before.
He's an amazing guest, andthat's why I asked him for him
back.
Real leaders haven't justrecovered from burnout, but
(00:25):
they've actually found theirbrilliance, and it's about
finding your brilliance inburnout, because burnout isn't a
sign of weakness, it's a callto rise to join a movement.
So if you haven't yetsubscribed, please join this
movement and share it with afriend.
Maybe you'll change their lives.
Please join this movement andshare it with a friend.
(00:47):
Maybe you'll change their lives.
What three strategies, then, orwhat three game-changing
strategies, do you have to helpimplement to manage ceos or
highly developed people today?
What's your top three whenpeople come to you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So for me, I have AD attention deficit disorder.
I can't stand thatclassification.
I don't have the hyperactive,I'm not hyper and it's not a
disorder, it's a superpower.
So one of the things that Iactually talk to people about is
this idea of overwhelm.
So one of the things that we dois we make these lists of to-do
(01:27):
lists and we focus on thethings that we don't complete on
our list.
So reframing actually focusingon the things that you completed
instead of focusing on thingsthat you didn't complete I think
that's a big game changer.
Make your list, don't write ahundred different things.
(01:48):
Keep it to maybe sevendifferent items and if there are
different categories once againI'm going to mention Tony
Robbins he calls it chunking soif it's something that can fit a
category, then put it into thatcategory and celebrate your
wins.
Make sure that you pat yourselfon the back, give yourself a
(02:08):
hug and always be able to giveyourself a reward.
So I'll give you an example ofthat, because it's extremely
important to be able to dophysical activity, physical
exercise, and the hardest thingfor people to do that is to get
to the gym, take action.
So once you're there, you'realready there.
So if you can connect yourselffrom the reward of going to the
(02:30):
gym.
For me, I love the sauna to me,so I, instead of going to the
gym, I would just go to thesauna.
But what I'm doing is I amgetting my car.
It's cold.
Well, I live in LA, it's notthat cold, so I'm not going to
say it's cold.
It's fairly unpleasant as it isusually beautiful.
But you get in the car, youdrive to the gym, you're going
(02:54):
to reward yourself at the endwith a sauna and it's just that
motion of getting going anddoing physical exercise is
extremely important.
And then the third part of thatis you already mentioned, baz,
about flow, and I did a classwith Stephen Kotler on flow
state, and I think it'sextremely important for all
(03:15):
executives anybody who'slistening to that to find their
own flow state.
It can be in your work, it canbe outside of your work, but
what your flow state is, it'sall your neurochemicals firing
at their optimal levels.
An example of that is abasketball player that can't
(03:37):
miss.
The basket, looks like aswimming pool.
You're just shooting fromanywhere and you're not thinking
so.
From trying to find out whatyour flow state is, it's one of
the best resets.
First of all, it's a downloadof information.
So for me it's hiking and Idiscovered that it could be
other things.
But that is my optimal flowstate and it's what I do when
(04:02):
I'm not thinking, whereinformation just downloads.
It resets my mental state, itresets my physical state, it
gives me physical exercise.
But also I found this If I'mlistening to something, where
I'm not listening to anything,I'm in nature, all this
information downloads.
(04:22):
So I got to a point where, asI'm done my hike, I pull out my
phone and my notes and I recordand when I go back I'm like
these are some wonderful ideas.
I didn't think about thesolution.
The solution came to me when Iwasn't thinking, but I was in my
flow state, taking action.
You were mentioning at the endof the first part of the episode
(04:44):
about when you're stuck andyou're burnt out.
What do you do?
Just do is what I wouldrecommend.
Do the most uncomfortable thing, just do it.
As Nike says, take action.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is giveyourself some love and
compassion.
We're very hard on ourselvesand I am extremely hard on
(05:06):
myself.
I'm lucky to have people aroundme that are always like telling
me you're this, you're thatgiving me positive reinforcement
?
But if you're not, you may notbe believing that stuff, no
matter what people say.
So every once in a while, giveyourself a hug.
You deserve it.
Give yourself the love, becauseonce you do that, you're going
to be able to give that to otherpeople as well.
And don't judge yourself tooharshly.
(05:28):
And the third one is find yourflow state and do more of that.
Do more of the fires up allthose neurochemicals, and I
think that those are the thingsI would suggest.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I love that advice and that's great advice because
what you've just given there isa roadmap if you like to reset,
but not just once, but you canuse it every single day and once
you could be coming to thathabit, it becomes the habit,
becomes the lifestyle.
So, going to the gym, rewardingyourself with sauna, in your
case it's awesome, it's greatadvice for somebody goes.
(06:03):
It's five o'clock, I've got toget up, I've got to go to the
gym, but don't think about thegym, think about the reward
afterwards.
So that's great advice.
I want to touch now on energyand spirituality, because it's a
very sometimes controversialsubject, but actually it's not.
Energy is quantum physics andit's all around us what creates
(06:25):
the universe.
Leadership isn't just abouttasks.
It's about having a vision,building a legacy.
How does it connect tosomething greater, with your
family and values or spiritualbeliefs?
How do they help you sustainyour not just your life, but
your clients lives and energy?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm a big believer in energy and I really look within
myself if things aren't, ifthings are misaligned.
So, you know, most people readthe Secret, for instance, and
I'm not a big proponent of theSecret, but there was one thing
in there that really resonatedwith me and I've taken into my
(07:08):
lifestyle practice over and over, and this is the idea of
frequency and that idea ofvibrating at a higher frequency
and understanding if things arehappening to me.
I drove into a pothole, somebodyscratched my car, I dropped my
groceries all these differentthings are happening to you.
(07:31):
Maybe you have to look withinyourself of where you are, so
taking a moment to be able toraise your own frequency,
vibrational frequency that mayattract the same high level
frequency vibrations back to youand you're vibrating at a low
frequency and you catch yourselfand you're constantly talking
(07:53):
negative about yourself, aboutother people doing these
different things.
You'll keep attracting thatthing to yourself as well.
So being able, whatever yourspiritual, religious, whatever
your practice is, being able todo whatever you can to rise your
vibrational frequency.
I think that is a method ofbeing dependent on yourself to
(08:17):
make those changes where you canactually also affect other
people that are around you andthe other part of that is be
aware of the negative naysayersin your life.
I think I don't remember who.
The person said that you're theculmination of the five people
that are closest to you in yourlife.
(08:38):
Jim Rohn yeah, so, which isamazing and so true.
So, being self-aware of thepeople that are around you,
who's vibrating at yourfrequency, who's not?
And maybe it'scompartmentalizing.
I'm not saying cut everybodyout of your life, which you may
not have an option to do, butthat could be an option.
(09:00):
This is your friend who maybeis negative, but maybe you play
golf with them or something.
So this is your golfing buddy.
You don't have to do anythingwith them.
Then just go out and play golfand they're not going to be that
big part of your life.
So be really self-aware and Ithink that's one of the hardest
thing to do to be able to beself-aware, understand where
(09:23):
you're contributing to and makethose changes.
And I'm very big onvisualization and that's part of
that spiritual practice, notjust having vision boards, and a
lot of people have these visionboards and they create them.
It's going to be the first ofthe year.
Oh yeah, I'm going to take allthese magazines, I'm going to go
and I'm going to, but are youactually engaging with that?
(09:45):
Are you doing anything with anyof that stuff?
And be able to have mantras andspeak to yourself in a way that
you would want others to speakto you as well, and one of the
things I always talk about is,if somebody's having this
conversation, this negativeconversation with themselves,
(10:06):
would you have this conversationwith your best friend?
Would you have with your mom?
Would you speak to your childin that way and why would you
treat yourself in that way?
And why would you treatyourself in that way?
So, connecting to the greatergood, being able to reinforce
through a practice of changingvibrational energy, whatever
that looks like to you.
(10:26):
I do transcendental meditationas well, so TM helps center me,
but my ADD even that isextremely difficult for me to do
.
So being able to catch yourselfin the moment and then changing
, shifting that energy, I thinkthat's a very important thing.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's key there, where you're looking at being
self-aware and also going withinyourself to go okay, this is
what maybe is going on.
Who needs to be in my life, whodoesn't need to be in my life?
This is what maybe is going onwho needs to be in my life, who
doesn't need to be in my life,and also, what does my life look
like without them?
Can I adjust in my wholelifestyle to go?
(11:06):
I don't need to be codependenton you.
Let's shift gigs, and that'sbrilliant advice.
I have a final question beforewe go and before we go, I want
you to just give people anoverview of what you do and
where to come and find you ifthey're interested in seeing
what you do, and maybe book anappointment with you just to
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and I appreciate it.
Our website company website isendodnacom.
That's where you can get thegenetic testing and all those
other things.
Lenmaylenmaycom.
That's where you can get thegenetic testing and all those
other things.
I also have a one-on-onecoaching.
If somebody wants to look attheir own personalized health
and wellness and want to engagewith me, that's lenmay
(11:48):
L-E-N-M-A-Y lenmaycoachingcom.
I also have a podcast.
It's called Everything isPersonal.
You can find it anywhere.
You get podcasts, talks topeople that I'm interested in
talking to, so hopefully some ofthem will resonate with you as
well.
I have a book that's calledMaking Cannabis Personal,
because one of the first thingthat we did in our company is
(12:08):
create a test for theendocannabinoid system so people
can have a more personalizedexperience with their
phytocannabinoid use.
And yeah, I'm on all socialchannels Len May, I think Len
May DNA.
On Instagram.
For the most part, I'm Len MayL-E-N-M-A-Y, so I'm pretty
responsive as well.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Thank you for that, len.
I appreciate it and please goand check him out.
Don't be shy.
Go and say hello and say weheard you on the podcast.
It'd be great, great.
One last question before wepart ways today, and I really
want to thank you for your timeand energy, because what you do
is quite remarkable.
If you could have one boldaction to transform your life or
(12:50):
someone's life, your life today, and come from burnout into
brilliance, what would you, youcommit to If you could do it all
over again?
Go back to the 25-year-old-ishplus fat May and go, what can I
commit to stop me going throughall the challenges I've been
(13:10):
through?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Patience.
So somebody just asked me thisquestion when I was at the
Longevity Conference on the spotand they said what would you
tell your 20-some-year-old selfand I think that it may be
partially ADD, maybe just mypersonality I'm always running.
(13:32):
I'm doing so many differentthings.
I don't want everything now.
It's this instantaneousgratification kind of thing.
I want it.
It's just it can't happenquickly enough.
And if I would go back I'm inmy 50s.
If I go back in a 25 or so years, if I can tell myself this
journey is a very long marathon.
(13:55):
It's going to happen If youkeep doing.
Every single day you put alittle brick down, next day you
put another brick down and thismarathon is going to go and
every day just do that one brick.
At the end at some point you'regoing to build yourself a
kick-ass house.
But if you are running all thetime, that is the first
(14:20):
indication of burnout.
You're not going to get yourinstantaneous gratification and
even if you do, you're not goingto know what to do with it when
it comes that quickly.
This is a long marathon.
So working on patience that isthe first thing I would tell
myself is just be patient, it'sall going to work itself out the
way it's supposed to at thewhatever end may be, but at the
(14:44):
end that'll that's all going towork out I love that advice and
I wish you'd speak into me about20 years ago, because I've been
in a different place now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Then, thank you very much for your time, your energy
and your love, as always.
You're amazing.
I really and truly appreciateyou and for everybody you serve.
From my listeners, thank youvery much.
Please share this message.
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Remember burnout isn't justabout stealing your energy.
It's stealing your brillianceand your purpose, your legacy,
(15:17):
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Join a movement not just forburnout to brilliance, but to
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Your rise will always starttoday.
Thank you very much, my friends, and until next time.
(15:38):
I'll see you very soon.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to part two of
Arise from the Ashes.
This is season five.
I think it's episode three orfour, can't really remember.
Anyway, we're here with Len May, and in the first part of this
we rediscovered Len's story ofburnout.
Bear in mind, he's beeninterviewed with me before.
He's an amazing guest, andthat's why I asked him for him
back.
Real leaders haven't justrecovered from burnout, but
(00:25):
they've actually found theirbrilliance, and it's about
finding your brilliance inburnout, because burnout isn't a
sign of weakness, it's a callto rise to join a movement.
So if you haven't yetsubscribed, please join this
movement and share it with afriend.
Maybe you'll change their lives.
Please join this movement andshare it with a friend.
(00:47):
Maybe you'll change their lives.
What three strategies, then, orwhat three game-changing
strategies, do you have to helpimplement to manage ceos or
highly developed people today?
What's your top three whenpeople come to you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So for me, I have AD attention deficit disorder.
I can't stand thatclassification.
I don't have the hyperactive,I'm not hyper and it's not a
disorder, it's a superpower.
So one of the things that Iactually talk to people about is
this idea of overwhelm.
So one of the things that we dois we make these lists of to-do
(01:27):
lists and we focus on thethings that we don't complete on
our list.
So reframing actually focusingon the things that you completed
instead of focusing on thingsthat you didn't complete I think
that's a big game changer.
Make your list, don't write ahundred different things.
(01:48):
Keep it to maybe sevendifferent items and if there are
different categories once againI'm going to mention Tony
Robbins he calls it chunking soif it's something that can fit a
category, then put it into thatcategory and celebrate your
wins.
Make sure that you pat yourselfon the back, give yourself a
(02:08):
hug and always be able to giveyourself a reward.
So I'll give you an example ofthat, because it's extremely
important to be able to dophysical activity, physical
exercise, and the hardest thingfor people to do that is to get
to the gym, take action.
So once you're there, you'realready there.
So if you can connect yourselffrom the reward of going to the
(02:30):
gym.
For me, I love the sauna to me,so I, instead of going to the
gym, I would just go to thesauna.
But what I'm doing is I amgetting my car.
It's cold.
Well, I live in LA, it's notthat cold, so I'm not going to
say it's cold.
It's fairly unpleasant as it isusually beautiful.
But you get in the car, youdrive to the gym, you're going
(02:54):
to reward yourself at the endwith a sauna and it's just that
motion of getting going anddoing physical exercise is
extremely important.
And then the third part of thatis you already mentioned, baz,
about flow, and I did a classwith Stephen Kotler on flow
state, and I think it'sextremely important for all
(03:15):
executives anybody who'slistening to that to find their
own flow state.
It can be in your work, it canbe outside of your work, but
what your flow state is, it'sall your neurochemicals firing
at their optimal levels.
An example of that is abasketball player that can't
(03:37):
miss.
The basket, looks like aswimming pool.
You're just shooting fromanywhere and you're not thinking
so.
From trying to find out whatyour flow state is, it's one of
the best resets.
First of all, it's a downloadof information.
So for me it's hiking and Idiscovered that it could be
other things.
But that is my optimal flowstate and it's what I do when
(04:02):
I'm not thinking, whereinformation just downloads.
It resets my mental state, itresets my physical state, it
gives me physical exercise.
But also I found this If I'mlistening to something, where
I'm not listening to anything,I'm in nature, all this
information downloads.
(04:22):
So I got to a point where, asI'm done my hike, I pull out my
phone and my notes and I recordand when I go back I'm like
these are some wonderful ideas.
I didn't think about thesolution.
The solution came to me when Iwasn't thinking, but I was in my
flow state, taking action.
You were mentioning at the endof the first part of the episode
(04:44):
about when you're stuck andyou're burnt out.
What do you do?
Just do is what I wouldrecommend.
Do the most uncomfortable thing, just do it.
As Nike says, take action.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is giveyourself some love and
compassion.
We're very hard on ourselvesand I am extremely hard on
(05:06):
myself.
I'm lucky to have people aroundme that are always like telling
me you're this, you're thatgiving me positive reinforcement
?
But if you're not, you may notbe believing that stuff, no
matter what people say.
So every once in a while, giveyourself a hug.
You deserve it.
Give yourself the love, becauseonce you do that, you're going
to be able to give that to otherpeople as well.
And don't judge yourself tooharshly.
(05:28):
And the third one is find yourflow state and do more of that.
Do more of the fires up allthose neurochemicals, and I
think that those are the thingsI would suggest.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I love that advice and that's great advice because
what you've just given there isa roadmap if you like to reset,
but not just once, but you canuse it every single day and once
you could be coming to thathabit, it becomes the habit,
becomes the lifestyle.
So, going to the gym, rewardingyourself with sauna, in your
case it's awesome, it's greatadvice for somebody goes.
(06:03):
It's five o'clock, I've got toget up, I've got to go to the
gym, but don't think about thegym, think about the reward
afterwards.
So that's great advice.
I want to touch now on energyand spirituality, because it's a
very sometimes controversialsubject, but actually it's not.
Energy is quantum physics andit's all around us what creates
(06:25):
the universe.
Leadership isn't just abouttasks.
It's about having a vision,building a legacy.
How does it connect tosomething greater, with your
family and values or spiritualbeliefs?
How do they help you sustainyour not just your life, but
your clients lives and energy?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm a big believer in energy and I really look within
myself if things aren't, ifthings are misaligned.
So, you know, most people readthe Secret, for instance, and
I'm not a big proponent of theSecret, but there was one thing
in there that really resonatedwith me and I've taken into my
(07:08):
lifestyle practice over and over, and this is the idea of
frequency and that idea ofvibrating at a higher frequency
and understanding if things arehappening to me.
I drove into a pothole, somebodyscratched my car, I dropped my
groceries all these differentthings are happening to you.
(07:31):
Maybe you have to look withinyourself of where you are, so
taking a moment to be able toraise your own frequency,
vibrational frequency that mayattract the same high level
frequency vibrations back to youand you're vibrating at a low
frequency and you catch yourselfand you're constantly talking
(07:53):
negative about yourself, aboutother people doing these
different things.
You'll keep attracting thatthing to yourself as well.
So being able, whatever yourspiritual, religious, whatever
your practice is, being able todo whatever you can to rise your
vibrational frequency.
I think that is a method ofbeing dependent on yourself to
(08:17):
make those changes where you canactually also affect other
people that are around you andthe other part of that is be
aware of the negative naysayersin your life.
I think I don't remember who.
The person said that you're theculmination of the five people
that are closest to you in yourlife.
(08:38):
Jim Rohn yeah, so, which isamazing and so true.
So, being self-aware of thepeople that are around you,
who's vibrating at yourfrequency, who's not?
And maybe it'scompartmentalizing.
I'm not saying cut everybodyout of your life, which you may
not have an option to do, butthat could be an option.
(09:00):
This is your friend who maybeis negative, but maybe you play
golf with them or something.
So this is your golfing buddy.
You don't have to do anythingwith them.
Then just go out and play golfand they're not going to be that
big part of your life.
So be really self-aware and Ithink that's one of the hardest
thing to do to be able to beself-aware, understand where
(09:23):
you're contributing to and makethose changes.
And I'm very big onvisualization and that's part of
that spiritual practice, notjust having vision boards, and a
lot of people have these visionboards and they create them.
It's going to be the first ofthe year.
Oh yeah, I'm going to take allthese magazines, I'm going to go
and I'm going to, but are youactually engaging with that?
(09:45):
Are you doing anything with anyof that stuff?
And be able to have mantras andspeak to yourself in a way that
you would want others to speakto you as well, and one of the
things I always talk about is,if somebody's having this
conversation, this negativeconversation with themselves,
(10:06):
would you have this conversationwith your best friend?
Would you have with your mom?
Would you speak to your childin that way and why would you
treat yourself in that way?
And why would you treatyourself in that way?
So, connecting to the greatergood, being able to reinforce
through a practice of changingvibrational energy, whatever
that looks like to you.
(10:26):
I do transcendental meditationas well, so TM helps center me,
but my ADD even that isextremely difficult for me to do
.
So being able to catch yourselfin the moment and then changing
, shifting that energy, I thinkthat's a very important thing.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's key there, where you're looking at being
self-aware and also going withinyourself to go okay, this is
what maybe is going on.
Who needs to be in my life, whodoesn't need to be in my life?
This is what maybe is going onwho needs to be in my life, who
doesn't need to be in my life,and also, what does my life look
like without them?
Can I adjust in my wholelifestyle to go?
(11:06):
I don't need to be codependenton you.
Let's shift gigs, and that'sbrilliant advice.
I have a final question beforewe go and before we go, I want
you to just give people anoverview of what you do and
where to come and find you ifthey're interested in seeing
what you do, and maybe book anappointment with you just to
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and I appreciate it.
Our website company website isendodnacom.
That's where you can get thegenetic testing and all those
other things.
Lenmaylenmaycom.
That's where you can get thegenetic testing and all those
other things.
I also have a one-on-onecoaching.
If somebody wants to look attheir own personalized health
and wellness and want to engagewith me, that's lenmay
(11:48):
L-E-N-M-A-Y lenmaycoachingcom.
I also have a podcast.
It's called Everything isPersonal.
You can find it anywhere.
You get podcasts, talks topeople that I'm interested in
talking to, so hopefully some ofthem will resonate with you as
well.
I have a book that's calledMaking Cannabis Personal,
because one of the first thingthat we did in our company is
(12:08):
create a test for theendocannabinoid system so people
can have a more personalizedexperience with their
phytocannabinoid use.
And yeah, I'm on all socialchannels Len May, I think Len
May DNA.
On Instagram.
For the most part, I'm Len MayL-E-N-M-A-Y, so I'm pretty
responsive as well.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Thank you for that, len.
I appreciate it and please goand check him out.
Don't be shy.
Go and say hello and say weheard you on the podcast.
It'd be great, great.
One last question before wepart ways today, and I really
want to thank you for your timeand energy, because what you do
is quite remarkable.
If you could have one boldaction to transform your life or
(12:50):
someone's life, your life today, and come from burnout into
brilliance, what would you, youcommit to If you could do it all
over again?
Go back to the 25-year-old-ishplus fat May and go, what can I
commit to stop me going throughall the challenges I've been
(13:10):
through?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Patience.
So somebody just asked me thisquestion when I was at the
Longevity Conference on the spotand they said what would you
tell your 20-some-year-old selfand I think that it may be
partially ADD, maybe just mypersonality I'm always running.
(13:32):
I'm doing so many differentthings.
I don't want everything now.
It's this instantaneousgratification kind of thing.
I want it.
It's just it can't happenquickly enough.
And if I would go back I'm inmy 50s.
If I go back in a 25 or so years, if I can tell myself this
journey is a very long marathon.
(13:55):
It's going to happen If youkeep doing.
Every single day you put alittle brick down, next day you
put another brick down and thismarathon is going to go and
every day just do that one brick.
At the end at some point you'regoing to build yourself a
kick-ass house.
But if you are running all thetime, that is the first
(14:20):
indication of burnout.
You're not going to get yourinstantaneous gratification and
even if you do, you're not goingto know what to do with it when
it comes that quickly.
This is a long marathon.
So working on patience that isthe first thing I would tell
myself is just be patient, it'sall going to work itself out the
way it's supposed to at thewhatever end may be, but at the
(14:44):
end that'll that's all going towork out I love that advice and
I wish you'd speak into me about20 years ago, because I've been
in a different place now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Then, thank you very much for your time, your energy
and your love, as always.
You're amazing.
I really and truly appreciateyou and for everybody you serve.
From my listeners, thank youvery much.
Please share this message.
You will inspire someone tochange their life.
Remember burnout isn't justabout stealing your energy.
It's stealing your brillianceand your purpose, your legacy,
(15:17):
your leadership is too importantto let burnout win.
Subscribe and change someone'slife today.
Join a movement not just forburnout to brilliance, but to
purpose and generational impact.
Your rise will always starttoday.
Thank you very much, my friends, and until next time.
(15:38):
I'll see you very soon.
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