April 23, 2025 • 15 mins
Anxiety isn’t just fear it’s feedback.
In this raw and revelatory episode, best-selling author and transformational teacher Cynthia James sits down with Baz Porter to dismantle the mainstream myths around mental health. Together, they expose the truth: anxiety is not the enemy it’s the alarm. The body’s way of whispering (or screaming), “You’re not living in alignment.”
✨ Cynthia reveals her Three Pillars of Emotional Wellness:
- Inquiry – Get brutally honest about where you are
- Introspection – Decode the emotional messages in your body
- Integration – Apply transformational tools that empower self-healing
If you’ve been relying on surface-level “self-care” while still drowning in burnout, this is your wake-up call. Cynthia goes deep on:
✔ Why your body is a trauma computer
✔ How to approach meditation without perfectionism
✔ The life-changing ritual she does before reaching for her phone
✔ And the truth behind why we’re terrified to change (even when we crave it)
Friends, as we wrap up today’s powerful conversation, hear me loud and clear: I’m grateful for you. You’ve chosen greatness over settling, clarity over chaos, and brilliance over burnout. Remember Great CEOs deserve NO burnout.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
This is part two.
I'm with Cynthia James, who isa phenomenal powerhouse coach
speaker.
If you haven't listened to partone, stop, Go and listen to
part one.
Share it, change someone's life.
Cynthia, how are you?
And welcome back.
In part one, we were talkingabout your life, how you got
(00:21):
here and some methods that youuse to really uncover the spark
in somebody, and I'd love tospeak about anxiety and the
spark of that and how you guidethem through that journey.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know, anxiety is really about losing touch with
the center of who you've comehere to be and who you are, and
so it means that worry and thefrequency of what's going on
(01:00):
around you is pulling you off ofthat center.
So that's the first thing Iwant to say, and I don't know
any human being that hasn't hadmoments of anxiety or worry or,
you know, questioning their ownmental health, because life
happens.
But this is what I want you toknow is like if you have a
(01:21):
treasure chest of tools, you canalways find your way back to
center.
So for me, when I work withpeople, you know, I say there's
three pillars, and the first oneis inquiry when are you?
What's happening?
Let's get real.
What's your current reality?
You know what's driving you,what's upsetting you, you know
(01:46):
what's pushing you, what'spulling you.
I mean, let's get, let's put itall on the table, because until
you can get real with it, youcan't shift it.
So then the second pillar islike introspection and it's like
okay, let's find out what'shappening internally.
And when I say internally, Imean mind-body.
Your body is a huge computer.
(02:09):
It remembers everything that'sever happened to you at any time
.
In fact, it can even be, youknow, historical trauma and
stuff can be still encoded inthere.
So you want to just go in andfind out what the body has a
language.
What's the language?
What's it communicating to you?
Because that anxiety carries amessage.
(02:29):
What is the message for you?
So let's get clear about thatand while we're doing that, get
some tools on how to get clearer, because then the third pillar
is integration.
It's like how do I take thesetools and this understanding of
where I've been and where I wantto be and use those tools as
(02:51):
transformative agents that I canuse not only when I'm working
with a coach or a therapist orwhatever, but that I can take
with me because I haveeverything included in me that I
need to be healthy, well andvibrant.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I love that energy that you bring to the table.
Dan, that was awesome.
You mentioned something keythere about energy and vibrancy,
but you also mentioned the pain.
Someone once told me many yearsago the pain was the message.
You have to listen to it.
(03:32):
Not stay in the pain, becausethat's just stupid, but listen
to the pain of telling andlisten to the message you're
speaking to you with, becausethat vibrational element that
you have, the encoded message init, is life-changing.
You mentioned a couple oftactics there that you developed
something many years ago whenyou first started this journey,
(03:55):
and it was something veryprofound that changed your life,
and you came up with it, Ithink, in the university, wasn't
it?
Yeah, Would you mind sharingabout that please?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, so I was in this master's degree program in
a place called the University ofSanta Monica in California and
you know they taught us 65counseling strategies.
I mean, they gave us a lot ofstuff, but before, but while we
were like maybe a third of theway through, they said your
assignment is to create your owncounseling strategy and bring
(04:31):
it back and present it to thissmaller group of people.
And I, of course, am freakedout.
I'm like I don't have acounseling strategy.
That's why I'm here, but I'vealways been, because I've been
meditating for so many years andI go to sacred sites all around
the world and stuff, stuff isalways downloaded through me.
And so I said well, what if Itook all these things that have
(04:54):
downloaded through me and I putthem into one package?
And some of it was similar tosome of the things that we were
learning, but some of it totallywasn't.
And the whole mind-bodyconnection and inviting people
to understand the language ofthe body became the foundation
(05:14):
for it all, and I was shockedhow it affected the people I was
presenting to.
And then I was shocked that thepeople that were coming to me
that I could bring this strategyin and they would have massive
moments of healing, and I waslike, okay, healing.
(05:38):
And and I was like, okay,cynthia, this is not about you.
You've been given a gift hereand so be wise about how you use
this gift and how you share it.
And so for me it was, I feel,like going to the university of
santa monica.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That was part of the reason why I was there I love
that because you recognize themessage and you took something
with it to take it to the nextlevel Spiritual alignment.
You mentioned something aboutmeditation and I love meditating
, Joe Dispenza, et cetera, etcetera and I've formidable
figure in this space ofregeneration and body, mind and
(06:13):
soul regeneration frommeditation.
What's your experience withmeditation and can you simplify
it for the audience?
So if someone will listen tothis and go, I don't meditate,
oh my God, I can't do that, Ican't be present.
Too many thoughts.
What advice would you give themif they were listening to this
now going?
Well, I want to meditate, but Idon't know how.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, the first thing I want to tell you is people
tell you that meditation isshutting your mind off.
No, it is not.
It is getting quiet enough sothat your mind can still itself
(06:59):
and that you can open to.
You know, there is universalinformation, which is why 10
people can have the same idea atthe same time.
Quantum physicists say there'sa quantum field and it's full of
possibility and potential andthat you are emanation of that
field.
So you can tap in and pull thatstuff at any moment.
So for me, that's whatmeditation is.
Can you get still enough to beable to listen to the
information that's being givento you?
Now, for some people, that'ssitting quietly in the silence,
(07:23):
and you know, and just opening.
A lot of people don't start thatway.
When I started meditating, youknow, I would think I'd been
meditating for a long time andit had been a minute, you know.
So some people do it with music, some people do it by sitting
by a tree, some people do it byhiking, some people do it by
swimming.
(07:43):
The thing is is like you getinto a zone where you can open
your own energy field and yourown frequency to receive.
So that's what meditation is,and let me say this, it's
evolutionary.
The way I started meditating 40years ago is not how I meditate
(08:03):
today, and there were momentswhere my meditation tricks
didn't work.
You're like, okay, what'shappening?
My mind is spinning out and I'mdoing laundry and all this
other stuff, but all that saysis then you need to open to
another way, you need to open toanother technique.
(08:27):
And what I love is there's somany people out there.
Do you listen to Joe Dispenza?
I've done his stuff, I mean youknow there's Greg Brayton.
There's all these people outthere that are giving you all
kinds of entree points, and alot of them are using science
and spirituality.
So you understand that there'sabsolute science to what you're
doing.
In fact, a lot of thescientists you know have become
(08:48):
kind of philosophers becausethey understand it.
So for me it's like do whateveryou need to do to be still and
start small.
If you can sit for five minutesand just listen to peaceful
music, I mean you know peoplehave guided meditations and
things like that Do whatever youneed to do to help you get
(09:09):
centered, because what I willtell you is when you can do that
, you will find that your days,your weeks and your whole life
goes better.
Joe Dispenza did this thing andhe was talking about create
your day, right, and he was likethere's a gap between the
moment you wake up and themoment you get active right, and
(09:30):
in that gap you can create.
And so he was like what do youwant to create?
And so it was like oh, you know, I've always been beautiful,
powerful, expansive, you know,because you are eternal right,
so I don't get out of bedwithout creating my day, which
is a part of my spiritualpractice.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I love that advice, and you mentioned something
earlier about safety.
Safety is one of your topvalues and what you do in
everything, but it's about youfeeling safe in that moment.
Yes, and whether you stay inbed and create your day, or
something I like to help peoplewith is have a glass of water by
(10:15):
your bed about 500 millilitersand then drink that, sit up so
you're not lying down, and justbe present with yourself for
that five minutes.
You do whatever you do in thatfive minutes, but you're
intentionally.
The body starts to wake up.
Naturally, you haven't put anylight on Most people get up and
(10:36):
the first thing they do is whatdid I, what did I miss in the
last 10 hours I've been asleep?
The answer is nothing.
What you're missing is yourselfand that component.
So I love that advice get out,get into bed, get when you get
out, just visualize your day.
(10:56):
Create from there what thechallenge is when.
So you come across somebody andthey come straight to you.
What are the common questionspeople come to you with?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
people ask me I'm stuck.
How do I get out of this?
People come and say I feel likeI've been living somebody
else's life.
How, how do I find me?
People come and say I feel likeI've been on the wrong path.
(11:30):
You know, joseph Campbelltalked about climbing the wrong
ladder.
So people are like it's like Iknow there's something else that
is calling me.
I don't know what it is, Idon't know how to access it and
I'm afraid, if I absolutely opento it, I'm going to lose people
(11:51):
that I love, jobs that I loveor ways that have made me
comfortable in the past.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I love that.
One of the reasons, among many,I like interviewing and having
conversations with people likeyou is there's a wealth of
experience and untappedknowledge in the world that
people like you possess.
It's not knowledge that you'vegone out intentionally to gather
(12:22):
, it's through something thatcannot be brought, and that's
life experience.
That's why I love doing this,because your message, your gift
and you are the gift Cynthianeeds to be heard now, yesterday
, seven weeks ago, becausesomeone needs to hear it.
(12:45):
So I want to thank you forspending some time with me today
and having just a conversation.
I appreciate you and I want tostay in touch and have a
conversation in the future, ifyou're open to that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm totally open and Baz open to that.
I'm totally open and bad, as Ijust want to say.
I hope that in your quietmoments you give thanks that
you've answered this call,because it's it's it's a gift to
the masses to bring people andinvite them into a different
kind of dialogue, of beingpresent on this planet.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Very grateful to have been with you my pleasure and
it's an honor and a pleasure forme.
It's my honor to be with youand I truly mean it to the
audience.
That was our little moment.
We wanted to have them at theend of gratitude and to come
back into a sort of groundedcentral space audience.
I love you.
You're awesome.
(13:41):
I'm grateful for you.
Please download it, share themessage it's not my message,
it's cynthia's and get it outfar and wide because I promise
you it will change somebody'slife, cynthia.
Thank you.
I am blessed to be in front ofyou and blessed to have a
conversation with you.
Audience.
I'll see you next time.
You're awesome.
(14:02):
Have an amazing day, be blessed.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
This is part two.
I'm with Cynthia James, who isa phenomenal powerhouse coach
speaker.
If you haven't listened to partone, stop, Go and listen to
part one.
Share it, change someone's life.
Cynthia, how are you?
And welcome back.
In part one, we were talkingabout your life, how you got
(00:21):
here and some methods that youuse to really uncover the spark
in somebody, and I'd love tospeak about anxiety and the
spark of that and how you guidethem through that journey.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know, anxiety is really about losing touch with
the center of who you've comehere to be and who you are, and
so it means that worry and thefrequency of what's going on
(01:00):
around you is pulling you off ofthat center.
So that's the first thing Iwant to say, and I don't know
any human being that hasn't hadmoments of anxiety or worry or,
you know, questioning their ownmental health, because life
happens.
But this is what I want you toknow is like if you have a
(01:21):
treasure chest of tools, you canalways find your way back to
center.
So for me, when I work withpeople, you know, I say there's
three pillars, and the first oneis inquiry when are you?
What's happening?
Let's get real.
What's your current reality?
You know what's driving you,what's upsetting you, you know
(01:46):
what's pushing you, what'spulling you.
I mean, let's get, let's put itall on the table, because until
you can get real with it, youcan't shift it.
So then the second pillar islike introspection and it's like
okay, let's find out what'shappening internally.
And when I say internally, Imean mind-body.
Your body is a huge computer.
(02:09):
It remembers everything that'sever happened to you at any time
.
In fact, it can even be, youknow, historical trauma and
stuff can be still encoded inthere.
So you want to just go in andfind out what the body has a
language.
What's the language?
What's it communicating to you?
Because that anxiety carries amessage.
(02:29):
What is the message for you?
So let's get clear about thatand while we're doing that, get
some tools on how to get clearer, because then the third pillar
is integration.
It's like how do I take thesetools and this understanding of
where I've been and where I wantto be and use those tools as
(02:51):
transformative agents that I canuse not only when I'm working
with a coach or a therapist orwhatever, but that I can take
with me because I haveeverything included in me that I
need to be healthy, well andvibrant.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I love that energy that you bring to the table.
Dan, that was awesome.
You mentioned something keythere about energy and vibrancy,
but you also mentioned the pain.
Someone once told me many yearsago the pain was the message.
You have to listen to it.
(03:32):
Not stay in the pain, becausethat's just stupid, but listen
to the pain of telling andlisten to the message you're
speaking to you with, becausethat vibrational element that
you have, the encoded message init, is life-changing.
You mentioned a couple oftactics there that you developed
something many years ago whenyou first started this journey,
(03:55):
and it was something veryprofound that changed your life,
and you came up with it, Ithink, in the university, wasn't
it?
Yeah, Would you mind sharingabout that please?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, so I was in this master's degree program in
a place called the University ofSanta Monica in California and
you know they taught us 65counseling strategies.
I mean, they gave us a lot ofstuff, but before, but while we
were like maybe a third of theway through, they said your
assignment is to create your owncounseling strategy and bring
(04:31):
it back and present it to thissmaller group of people.
And I, of course, am freakedout.
I'm like I don't have acounseling strategy.
That's why I'm here, but I'vealways been, because I've been
meditating for so many years andI go to sacred sites all around
the world and stuff, stuff isalways downloaded through me.
And so I said well, what if Itook all these things that have
(04:54):
downloaded through me and I putthem into one package?
And some of it was similar tosome of the things that we were
learning, but some of it totallywasn't.
And the whole mind-bodyconnection and inviting people
to understand the language ofthe body became the foundation
(05:14):
for it all, and I was shockedhow it affected the people I was
presenting to.
And then I was shocked that thepeople that were coming to me
that I could bring this strategyin and they would have massive
moments of healing, and I waslike, okay, healing.
(05:38):
And and I was like, okay,cynthia, this is not about you.
You've been given a gift hereand so be wise about how you use
this gift and how you share it.
And so for me it was, I feel,like going to the university of
santa monica.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That was part of the reason why I was there I love
that because you recognize themessage and you took something
with it to take it to the nextlevel Spiritual alignment.
You mentioned something aboutmeditation and I love meditating
, Joe Dispenza, et cetera, etcetera and I've formidable
figure in this space ofregeneration and body, mind and
(06:13):
soul regeneration frommeditation.
What's your experience withmeditation and can you simplify
it for the audience?
So if someone will listen tothis and go, I don't meditate,
oh my God, I can't do that, Ican't be present.
Too many thoughts.
What advice would you give themif they were listening to this
now going?
Well, I want to meditate, but Idon't know how.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, the first thing I want to tell you is people
tell you that meditation isshutting your mind off.
No, it is not.
It is getting quiet enough sothat your mind can still itself
(06:59):
and that you can open to.
You know, there is universalinformation, which is why 10
people can have the same idea atthe same time.
Quantum physicists say there'sa quantum field and it's full of
possibility and potential andthat you are emanation of that
field.
So you can tap in and pull thatstuff at any moment.
So for me, that's whatmeditation is.
Can you get still enough to beable to listen to the
information that's being givento you?
Now, for some people, that'ssitting quietly in the silence,
(07:23):
and you know, and just opening.
A lot of people don't start thatway.
When I started meditating, youknow, I would think I'd been
meditating for a long time andit had been a minute, you know.
So some people do it with music, some people do it by sitting
by a tree, some people do it byhiking, some people do it by
swimming.
(07:43):
The thing is is like you getinto a zone where you can open
your own energy field and yourown frequency to receive.
So that's what meditation is,and let me say this, it's
evolutionary.
The way I started meditating 40years ago is not how I meditate
(08:03):
today, and there were momentswhere my meditation tricks
didn't work.
You're like, okay, what'shappening?
My mind is spinning out and I'mdoing laundry and all this
other stuff, but all that saysis then you need to open to
another way, you need to open toanother technique.
(08:27):
And what I love is there's somany people out there.
Do you listen to Joe Dispenza?
I've done his stuff, I mean youknow there's Greg Brayton.
There's all these people outthere that are giving you all
kinds of entree points, and alot of them are using science
and spirituality.
So you understand that there'sabsolute science to what you're
doing.
In fact, a lot of thescientists you know have become
(08:48):
kind of philosophers becausethey understand it.
So for me it's like do whateveryou need to do to be still and
start small.
If you can sit for five minutesand just listen to peaceful
music, I mean you know peoplehave guided meditations and
things like that Do whatever youneed to do to help you get
(09:09):
centered, because what I willtell you is when you can do that
, you will find that your days,your weeks and your whole life
goes better.
Joe Dispenza did this thing andhe was talking about create
your day, right, and he was likethere's a gap between the
moment you wake up and themoment you get active right, and
(09:30):
in that gap you can create.
And so he was like what do youwant to create?
And so it was like oh, you know, I've always been beautiful,
powerful, expansive, you know,because you are eternal right,
so I don't get out of bedwithout creating my day, which
is a part of my spiritualpractice.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I love that advice, and you mentioned something
earlier about safety.
Safety is one of your topvalues and what you do in
everything, but it's about youfeeling safe in that moment.
Yes, and whether you stay inbed and create your day, or
something I like to help peoplewith is have a glass of water by
(10:15):
your bed about 500 millilitersand then drink that, sit up so
you're not lying down, and justbe present with yourself for
that five minutes.
You do whatever you do in thatfive minutes, but you're
intentionally.
The body starts to wake up.
Naturally, you haven't put anylight on Most people get up and
(10:36):
the first thing they do is whatdid I, what did I miss in the
last 10 hours I've been asleep?
The answer is nothing.
What you're missing is yourselfand that component.
So I love that advice get out,get into bed, get when you get
out, just visualize your day.
(10:56):
Create from there what thechallenge is when.
So you come across somebody andthey come straight to you.
What are the common questionspeople come to you with?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
people ask me I'm stuck.
How do I get out of this?
People come and say I feel likeI've been living somebody
else's life.
How, how do I find me?
People come and say I feel likeI've been on the wrong path.
(11:30):
You know, joseph Campbelltalked about climbing the wrong
ladder.
So people are like it's like Iknow there's something else that
is calling me.
I don't know what it is, Idon't know how to access it and
I'm afraid, if I absolutely opento it, I'm going to lose people
(11:51):
that I love, jobs that I loveor ways that have made me
comfortable in the past.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I love that.
One of the reasons, among many,I like interviewing and having
conversations with people likeyou is there's a wealth of
experience and untappedknowledge in the world that
people like you possess.
It's not knowledge that you'vegone out intentionally to gather
(12:22):
, it's through something thatcannot be brought, and that's
life experience.
That's why I love doing this,because your message, your gift
and you are the gift Cynthianeeds to be heard now, yesterday
, seven weeks ago, becausesomeone needs to hear it.
(12:45):
So I want to thank you forspending some time with me today
and having just a conversation.
I appreciate you and I want tostay in touch and have a
conversation in the future, ifyou're open to that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm totally open and Baz open to that.
I'm totally open and bad, as Ijust want to say.
I hope that in your quietmoments you give thanks that
you've answered this call,because it's it's it's a gift to
the masses to bring people andinvite them into a different
kind of dialogue, of beingpresent on this planet.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Very grateful to have been with you my pleasure and
it's an honor and a pleasure forme.
It's my honor to be with youand I truly mean it to the
audience.
That was our little moment.
We wanted to have them at theend of gratitude and to come
back into a sort of groundedcentral space audience.
I love you.
You're awesome.
(13:41):
I'm grateful for you.
Please download it, share themessage it's not my message,
it's cynthia's and get it outfar and wide because I promise
you it will change somebody'slife, cynthia.
Thank you.
I am blessed to be in front ofyou and blessed to have a
conversation with you.
Audience.
I'll see you next time.
You're awesome.
(14:02):
Have an amazing day, be blessed.
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