Hurricanes, Hope, and Two-Wheeled Tales: Cycling Adventures and Community Connections - Cycling Women of Leisure Series with Maria Parker - Road Adventures of Cycling Men of Leisure

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men
of Leisure, the podcast forcyclists who understand that
riding is not just about gettingto the destination, but the
experience along the way.
Now here are the originalCycling Men of Leisure Adam and
Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to Road Adventures of Cycling Men of
Leisure.
As usual, I am Adam and onceagain I am joined with my good
friend all the way from CentralTime, kansas, mr Michael Sharp.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hello Adam, Happy to be here.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Been pretty good.
It's been a while since you andI have been together.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes, yeah, we had to record a couple of episodes back
to back because you were headedout of town, and so, yeah, now
we're getting another recordingin.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, we were celebrating a special birthday
for my wife and for her birthdayshe got the uh Florida virus
and I'm not trying to beoffensive, but I swear every
time we go there it's like we'relike an assess pool of everyone
else's germs.
And so she unfortunately gotsick.
Uh to the point, we flew homeearly.

(01:22):
Delta said uh yes, mrBaransanski, we know that you're
our best customer.
And so they.
No, I'm just kidding.
I called I called the line andsaid what would you charge me to
come home early?
And he said well, looks likeyou had some problems getting
out.
We're like 15 minutes delayed,big deal.
And he's like I think we canuse that as an excuse.
I can get you out today and I'm, like you know, with the

(01:43):
hurricane coming and my wife notfeeling well, I'll take it.
And so we came home a few daysearly, but we still had a good
time.
We had still seven days inFlorida it was beautiful, and
before all the hurricanes.
And so, on a serious note onbehalf of Michael and myself,
anyone who is our regularlistener, just anyone, anyone,

(02:04):
and just we're sorry that you'regoing through this, michael and
myself, anyone who is ourregular listener, and and just
anyone, anyone and just we'resorry that you're going through
this and we're we're thinkingabout you.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
so georgia, north carolina, florida, and then
florida is going to get hit theway it's looking like with
another one.
So if, if they tell you toleave town, just leave town.
That's all I'm gonna say.
But I will say, though, you,you get this virus, or she gets

(02:31):
this virus, or something.
Maybe it has something to dowith you.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Hang out in a house with a mouse I mean, my other
house has mice, but uh, I, uh, I, I don't know, I mean I swear,
every time we go there it's likeit's always something.
But all my employees tell me,like when school starts back up,
all the germs start over andover and over.

(02:55):
And they say, well, you know,you are going to a place where
there's lots of kids.
I'm like, yeah, but there's allkinds of adult things to do.
So but we had a good time.
Good, and got to celebrate alittle bit, and then she's on
the mend now.
Good, we did have a few of ourloyal listeners, the Cycling man

(03:22):
of Leisure Army, if you willreach out to us, army
Militarizing here.
Okay, loyal listeners are thecycling man of leisure army.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
If you will reach out to us and um militarizing here,
okay, how about?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
nation.
We don't want to hear what hehas to say.
But, um, we got some people whoare loyal and write us, and I'm
going to bounce around here alittle bit.
Our friend, gary Vaughn, wroteus.
He was also a brat.
We mentioned many people atbrat.
He happened to write us afteryou and I had already recorded,

(03:56):
and so I wanted to give a shoutout to him.
Gary, thank you for yourwonderful email and we look
forward to seeing you at Braggand maybe something else.
So hope that you are well, andso thank you for writing us.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
He had a fantastic idea, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
No different gentleman, oh, different one.
Okay, yeah, sorry, I don't wantto give the idea away.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I just wanted to thank them.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
No, no, we're going to get to that, okay, the
gentleman who had an idea is ourfriend, matt Robinson.
Oh, there you go.
This is a two-parter becausehe's got a guest for our
reoccurring segment, listenerSpotlight, and so I don't want
to give that away yet.
But he says also, I have someideas for the podcast, because

(04:41):
every time we end the show we'relike hey, if you have an idea,
write us.
And we're saying it right here,right now if you have an idea,
write us.
So, um, he says what about areoccurring segment called
encounters with cars?
In this, in the same voicemodel as listener spotlight, you
could have people riding withtheir encounters.

(05:03):
Now, after what happened to meyesterday, I was actually riding
a ride, a group ride, um, and Iswear I almost got breeded by a
white f-150 and I gave him Iknow we said we're gonna keep
the show clean I gave him theproverbial bird and, uh, he put

(05:24):
on his brakes for a little bitand I thought go ahead, buddy,
come on back.
But he decided to keep rollingdown the road.
But it was pretty close.
It was almost like that ridethat we don't talk about.
So, yeah, so, but I like theidea, matt.
I think, that we'll have to getthat going.

(05:45):
So if you've actually had anencounter with a car that was
scary enough or storytellingenough, send us a message.
We'd like to hear it, we'd loveto.
Or if you want to be on theshow for a couple seconds and
tell it, I mean, we coulddefinitely record you and figure
out a night that we could.
You could tell the storyyourself and, um, we'll find

(06:08):
time for that.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
so what about it?
What about an encounter with anf-16?
Does that count?
Um that?
That now that's another story.
I'm just wondering if thatwould count for that goes back
to the listener army.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
So, um, paul wade wrote us and he says um, and he
was, he was.
This is a complimentary,positive message, but you got to
read through it first.
He says what do you think?
It says that you rarely havelisteners who write in and say
hey, that's my town when you dothe listener spotlight.

(06:41):
He says I keep waiting forsomeone to do that, um, and I
said and I told him throw in theflag.
I was gonna say it did happen.
Actually, uh, our friend ed, um, he, he, uh, he did guess it.
But paul says if someoneactually guesses it, you guys
gotta send them some swag.

(07:01):
Um, well, interestingly enough,I think I agree with Paul.
I think you agree with PaulAbsolutely.
And, as a side note, edrecently made a donation to the
show.
So, ed, thank you very much,thank you.
So I am officially asking you,ed, text me your address.
We'd like to send you some swag, but but text it in normal

(07:27):
speed and not the 1.6 that youlisten to our show at.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, you know,you know, but, yes, uh, he's,
uh, he's a 1.6 listener.
And I did ask him.
I said because you know, I'm,I'm an iphone guy, I can't even
grab it on 1.6.
And I said how do you listen toit?
And he said on android, I guessthat you can do it 1.6, so I
can do 1.5 with apple podcast,but I can't do 1.6.

(07:50):
So, um, we probably sound evenbetter at 1.6 probably um tour
to livingston.
I just want to get this outthere.
Yeah, I uh, how'd that go?
it went well.
It went well.
The weather was just absolutelygorgeous, little windy, but, um

(08:10):
, uh, beautiful day.
Normally when I do tour tolivingston it's raining, it's
cold.
I mean, uh, this was great, Iwas um, beautiful, beautiful,
beautiful.
Global warming is a real thing.
Um, beautiful day wasdefinitely, um, um, I mean, you
would never know, it was inoctober around here.

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So a little history on tour tolivingston.
Livingston county is the countyI live in, um, and for many
years united way and rotary clubum did this ride to bring, to
bring funds in for those twoorganizations and then after a
while people kind of starteddying off a little bit.

(08:54):
And then with COVID, and thenwhat happened is the GoLiveCo,
which is an advocacy group, tookover with Neil Glazebrook, who
we did a ride with Shoreline,and so they brought it back this
year and it was nice to seethey had 100-plus riders and

(09:14):
they had a couple things.
They had some vendors, and whatI mean by vendors is people who
are educating people aboutnon-motorized trails in the area
and all the advocacy work thatthey put into it, which may
sound simple but such as thisbig roundabout under a major
freeway, and they were able toget a non-motorized path, to

(09:37):
make the state of Michigan agreeto do that.
So they're doing some goodstuff.
And so we actually asked for alet's Bus, and so we actually
sent a bus there and I had oneof my employees doing some pr
and information, so, um, andthen I did 40 miles which, since
I haven't been on my bicyclesince you and I went up north,

(09:59):
um, I thought 40 was good andhad a great day, and, um, we got
to go out to the GM ProvingGrounds.
Oh, that was a good time On thetrack.
It was a good day.
Thank you to all of thoseindividuals who put the hard
effort into it.
I had the easy part.
I just showed up and I feltlike a politician Shook some

(10:21):
people's hands.
They said oh, thank you forwhat you do, I'm like go ahead
now, just to clarify there was alet's butts there yeah you did
the 40 miles in the let's bus.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
no, I did the 40 miles on my bicycle.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I sent you a picture, so oh okay, there was a bus
there just so you sent me apicture, but that could have
been picture from any ride Imean well, really, I mean iPhone
does date it.
I didn't have the date on thepicture.
Yeah, it is.
I'm just making sure, if youlook closer, it's there.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I didn't look at the metadata, but okay, it's there.
But, yeah, I was sportingCycling Men of Leisure, the full
kit, and so I got a couplecompliments because I had wore
the tech jersey as well, I meanthe uh.
Yeah, it was a little chilly inthe morning.
And then, uh, everyone's like,oh, that's cool, where did you

(11:12):
get that?
I'm like, well, I actually knowwhere you can get one.
So, so, um, definitelydefinitely a good day.
So, um, but yeah, it felt goodand I had my computer needed
updated and my radar neededupdated.
So I did all that and umsuccessful ride and definitely
had a great day.
So, good, good.

(11:33):
And I think, with that beingsaid, um, we do have an
interview that we're gonna we'regonna play here in a second oh,
this is a good one too oh, itis, and fantastic, as a sidebar,
I didn't get a chance to tellyou this and I'm sorry,
yesterday.
I'm riding and you know, I'mdown on my aero bars I got my

(11:56):
the brim, of course and I lookdown and I look to my right and
I see the word cruise bike andand I look over and I said you
like podcasts?
And the guy goes yeah, I lovepodcasts.
And I said, well, what if Itold you, a week from today,
which was yesterday, but a weekfrom today, we are putting on an

(12:20):
interview with the CEO ofCruise Bike.
And he goes, maria, and I saidyes, maria, and so her name is
Maria Parker and she is the CEO.
And, truth be told, our friendMatt from Ohio, who gave us a
ride at Bragg, gave us herinformation and so we were able
to sit down with her.
And so, anyways, the gentlemanyesterday.

(12:41):
I said yeah, and he said how doI find it?
And he knew a lot about her aswell, and so at least I could
have a normal conversation,because we talked about her
sister and the 3000 miles and etcetera.
I don't want to give theinterview away, but we were
definitely going back writing me.
And he said, oh, cruise bikegang.
And I said all the cruise bikegroup is going to have their own

(13:08):
little thing.
And he's like, oh my gosh.
So when we stopped he got allthe information for the podcast.
So sweet, we may have got atleast one listener.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
But we're getting ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh, what did I miss?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
What everybody tunes into the show for.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Me talking about the one and only listener spotlight.
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, that's nice.
He's got a cool little graphicgoing on.
If you're watching this, yeah,and if you're not watching, you
almost forgot, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, I didn't forget.
I got it up.
I got all my notes on the boardhere.
I'll tell you what.
For those of you who don't useZoom and the whiteboard, you are
missing out.
I mean I got everything.
I mean I used to have all thesescratch notes everywhere.
I got everything on the screen.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's a beautiful thing.
He was still going to forget me, so you.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
We do have a guess, but I think per usual.
Why don't we let you give theclues first and then?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'll give you the guess.
Okay, clues for last episode'slistener spotlights are as
follows it's named after a furtrader From this town or
community.
You can see three states.
The settlement which becamethis town was originally created

(14:30):
by miners.
It was the first settlement inthe area and it was there before
that area was actually a state.
Following the Civil War, theeconomy flourished based upon
transportation and lumber, andthis town pioneered, helped

(14:50):
pioneer TV reception in the1950s.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
St Louis.
No, just kidding, I'm justteasing.
I'm just playing with my newtoy.
So hey look at that.
So you know I was excited aboutthe transportation guest, but
our friend Matt Robinson has aguest.
Okay, and what is?

(15:16):
that one.
He says Soda Springs, idaho, ismy answer and in a teasing
manner he says it wasn't eventhat hard.
He said actually it was prettytough and I hit my limit on chat
GBT questions but as far as Iknow I could be way off.
So Matt Robinson, who also hasthe idea of encounters with cars

(15:40):
, has guessed Soda Springs,idaho.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Easy, huh.
Well, I will tell you that yougot the first letter of the
state correct.
That's about it.
I would have liked to haveknown his justifications for
Soda Springs, but he's an avidlistener.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
If you could write us in the next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm interested on how he came up with soda springs,
but this week's listenerspotlight town is dubuque, iowa
hey, we've been there.
We have been there and uh,basically it was named after
julian dubuque, who receivedpermission.

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He was a fur trader and then hereceived permission from the
spanish government, as well asthe local native people, to mine
the area.
Um, it obviously big intotransportation because it's
right on the?
Uh the river there and uh thewhole the town helped pioneer uh
tv reception in the 1950s is,if you've ever been to dubuque,

(16:54):
um, there's a river on one sideand there's big hills on the
other and tv reception washorrible, especially back in the
50s and in 1954.
Um, they were one of the firstcommunities to have many miles
of coaxial cable laid for thepurposes of getting cable TV.

(17:21):
So Interesting, there you haveit.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well as usual.
Thank you, listeners fromDubuque Iowa.
Thank you all listeners, butespecially this time those from
Dubuque.
Listeners from Dubuque Iowa.
Thank you all listeners, butespecially this time those from
Dubuque Iowa.
Dubuque Iowa Cool.
Well, I'm excited about thisinterview.
We've been holding onto thisfor a little while.
We sat down with Maria sometime ago and we were able to get

(17:46):
her because she was doingsomething cool which she'll talk
about in the interview.
So, um, we're gonna play thatnow and um, where we think we
got something really great foryou guys.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
So this will be a good one.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Looking forward to it all right, here we go.
Well, we have a very specialguest today.
Um, a good friend of ours whowe met at brag in georgia,
connected us with somebody whohe felt that would be a good
guest for the show.
And, continuing the CyclingWomen Leisure of Series shows,
I'd like to bring on MariaParker, who's the CEO of Cruise

(18:22):
Bike, which are recumbentbicycles.
She's the founder of 3,000Miles to a Cure, which is a
brain cancer research fund.
She's a podcast co-host soshe's got to be great of
Champion Cocoa and the author ofDo Tough.
Ladies and gentlemen, let mewelcome Maria Parker.
Maria, thank you for giving ussome of your time tonight.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I appreciate it.
It's a delight.
I read a little bit about youguys and we could just talk all
night.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well, listen, I'm my father says I can suck the
oxygen out of the room, so, butwell, I just want to personally
welcome you to come coming onwith us and we talk about all
things cyclists.
We welcome everybody, whetherit's an e-bike, a recumbent Our
good friend Scott Garwick got ustalking about recumbent

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bicycles before Scott Garwickgot us talking about recumbent
bicycles before and and.
But you know, we got to meetMatt, our friend from Ohio, who
had a cruise bike, and he wasvery helpful to us on Big Brag
2022.
We were trapped in a hotel withour bike boxes and our regular
bicycles, if you will.
And he says I can help you guys.

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And at the time he was justgoing to give us a ride to the
start.
And so we got a ride to thestart, and then Michael and I
were concerned about our bikeboxes and we were like they're
not getting loaded on the truckand we were a little bit
concerned and all of a sudden wesaid to Matt hey, can we put
our bike boxes in your car forthe week?
And so he turned out to be awonderful friend and he turned

(19:53):
us on to you, but during thetime he told us all about what
we now know as Cruise Bike, andI'd like to let you talk about
that.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
He was a huge fan, a huge fan.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, he still is, he's an amazing friend and
customer.
He's been with us for a longtime.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So what is it about a cruise bike?
What makes a cruise bikedifferent?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Well, as you mentioned earlier, it is a
recumbent bike, although we'resort of moving to a different
term.
We're calling them aerocycles.
I think recumbent bike hasmaybe some sort of baggage.
I think a lot of people whothink about recumbent bikes they
think about um, I don't want tooffend anybody, but you know

(20:38):
aero bellies and and you knowengineers and tie dye shirts and
you know that sort of that sortof thing.
So, um, but our, our bike is alot like a road bike.
It has a similar drivetrain.
It's short.
What makes ours a unique uniqueis that it is front wheel drive
.
So the pedals which are out infront of you, as they are in all

(21:02):
aero cycles or recumbent bikes,actually drive the front wheel,
and we're the only ones.
Well, there's probably a fewothers out there, but but cruise
bike is the major front wheeldrive brand and there's a lot of
advantages to front wheel drive.
You like, as I alreadymentioned, it's it's the same
basic drive train as atraditional bike.

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We call them legacy bikes and,um, those are the nice names.
We have other names for thembut, uh, but it's got.
So you.
So you have a short chain.
You know you can, you canactually put upper body and, uh,
abdominal effort into it, likeyou can on a legacy bike where

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you might stand when you'reclimbing a hill and move the
bike from side to side, so, um,but then it has the advantages
of comfort, uh, extremelyergonomic.
No back, uh, wrist, neck orgroin pain, um.
So yeah, and it's funny, I, westarted the company years ago.

(22:05):
It's been, I guess we startedin 2016, so we're in 18, I mean
2006, so we're 18 years.
But my husband, I was doingtriathlons on a traditional bike
and I was begging my husband toride with me and he was like
he's a radiologist, he's likeI'm not putting, I'm not, he

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used to when he was young.
But he said I'm not going toride a traditional bike and you
know, and and put all thatpressure on my perineum.
So he started looking at um, atall kinds of bikes and he found
this little weird uh bike outof Australia and he bought one.
It was a kit, it was reallyfunky.
He bought one and I was likethat is the ugliest looking
thing I've ever seen.
I will never be caught dead on.

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One famously said that multipletimes.
And then we started ridingtogether and he was having way
much more fun than I was.
So I said finally one day Isaid all right, let me give it a
try.
And I tried it and pretty muchhaven't been on a traditional
bike since because it was itbrought back?
it's when you're sitting up, soyou have a different view of the
road, and the only way I knowhow to describe it is like
riding a magic carpet.
You know you're sitting up, youmore, you know, just a
different view.

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It's much.
And then, of course, you don'thave any of the you know
discomfort that we're always,you know, traditional.
It's like we're shaking out ourwrist.
We're, you know, sitting up,stretching our backs and trying
to get our neck, you know, ingood shape, and you don't have
to do any of that on a onspecifically not on a cruise
bike.
So so, yeah, then I got one,and then we bought the company

(23:36):
and then I did race acrossAmerica and the rest is history.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
See, here's the problem I have, adam, and it's
my problem it's you know, theylook really comfortable, right?
I have sleeping problems as itis, I'm worried.
I'll just be leaning back here.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I have sleeping problems as it is, I'm worried,
I'll just be leaning back here,get on a hill cruising down and
Michael falls asleep and drivesoff the side of the road.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Well, that's not happened yet to any of our
customers as far as we know.
I'm just saying for me thatwould be an issue, because it
would just be so comfortablethat I would.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's funny because a lot of times we're on a big ride
like Big Bragg.
People will go by and say isthat comfortable?
And I always think is thatcomfortable when you're riding?
So you know, I think it's whatpeople are really saying when
they ask that question is whatis that?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (24:23):
riding, and you know, is that a bicycle?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, it's.
Anytime something is differentthan what they're used to, they
don't you don't know or question.
It's like a tandem.
I always say to that person hey, they're not pedaling in the
back, which I'm sure is theoldest joke in the world.
Yes, we always joke that tandemis either a marriage maker or a
divorce maker.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, yes, People call them divorce-icles.
If my husband and I were toride one, it would certainly be
a divorce-icle.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
We can really get get through breakfast oh yeah, we
love when we do brag or brag,where I, and all of a sudden
you're like, stop peddling, dopeddle.
We always, we always for thosewho make it.
Kudos to you.
So, good for you.
So, a good friend of the show,good team member of ours, her

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and her husband have one andthey, they love it.
They seem to absolutely thriveon it.
But, yeah, I'm not sure my wifeand I would be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
So um, one time we were on a I think it was a cycle
and C and there was a big groupof tandems maybe 20 or 30.
And and we got into a uh, atandem train.
That it was amazing.
They should, in theory, befaster than any other Because

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you've got two motors and onebike that's heavier but not as
heavy as two bikes.
They're amazing, but Jim and Icould never do it.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Any works of a tandem cruise bike in the works.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Actually we have one of our customers built for us a
back-to-back tandem.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Which actually this works well for Jim and I.
We love it, it's fun.
We will probably never produceit, but it's so.
We're not facing each other,but we can talk because our you
know and we each and you knowand we can each pedal.
We each have our own drivetrain.
Oh, that so, yeah, it's actuallyreally cool because I usually
go in the back because theheavier person has to be in the

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front.
Okay, I usually, and you cansee it feels really safe because
I can see drivers.
Yeah, you know, and I'm like,you know, I'm a person, I'm on
this bike, be careful.
So it feels it feels reallysafe and yeah, and then we will.
We've ridden it for miles andjust had long conversations
because we're not looking ateach other.
So, yeah, we won't produce one,but it is fun.
I mean, unless we really makeit big.

(26:37):
If cruise bike really makes abig like track, well, we'll make
some.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Sure, sure, you'll.
You'll have no choice, becauseit would be there.
So, upon looking at yourwebsite, I see you have a few
different models and I wanted tomake sure we give that some
time here.
So you have, you have one thatis, of course, those who want to
go fast, ultra fast one.
You have one that's more forall terrain as well, and then

(27:00):
you have, you have four models,I think.
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Sure, yeah, the, the, the sort of the base model
which I would call kind of moreof a cruiser, is our T50.
It's the most affordable it's.
It's real easy to learn to ride.
It looks a lot like the veryfirst cruise bike ever made.
And then the next one up interms of cost is Q45.
It's maybe our most popularbike.

(27:24):
It has suspension.
Be our most popular bike, ithas suspension.
That's the one you refer to assort of all train and um, yeah,
that's probably my.
Well, I love them all.
I really like the q45.
It's we're going to take itnext year in the cno and gap
because it's perfect for thatkind of surface a little bit of.
You know they're great fortrails, you know it's got, like
I said, it's got suspension.

(27:45):
I wouldn't take it down a youknow steep side of a mountain,
but it's it's.
It's got, like I said, it's gotsuspension.
I wouldn't take it down a steepside of a mountain but it's a
great for multi-surface typeriding and it's got an
adjustable seat back angle whicha lot of people like.
And then the next one up fromthat is the S40, which is their
number refers to basically theseat back angle.

(28:05):
So T50 is most upright, butactually the T50 has an
adjustable seat back angle.
The Q45 after that and then theS40.
And the S40 is most like a roadbike.
The Q45 and the S40 are biggest, are number, you know.
One and two, you know, dependseach year.
It's kind of neck and neck.
It's easy to learn to ride.

(28:25):
It's very equivalent.
When I ride my S40, I'm ridingat the same pace as my friends
on Legacy Bikes.
It's a really social bike.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
As far as you can be social.
You know, as I was coming overhere to record this, I passed a
huge peloton of about 40cyclists, you know, and they're
all you know.
It's hard for a recumbent biketo mix into that.
We either have to ride at thefront or the back, because
people are kind of uncomfortablebecause we do accelerate and

(28:57):
brake a little bit differently.
So I don't you know, I don'tblame them, although I've ridden
in big Pelotons, but in anycase, the S40 is the bike I pick
when I'm riding with otherlegacy cyclists, because it's
matched in speed and you know,and it's a little bit more
upright.
So my head is, you know, up andI can talk more easily.
The V20C is our super fast racebike.

(29:20):
We claim that it's the fastestroad bike in the world and we
have set record after recordafter record on it.
I've set records, my husbandhas set records, Other riders
have set records.
It's just, it's fast.
And it's not fast because we'refast.
It's fast because it'sextremely aerodynamic and we

(29:42):
just can put out less power andgo faster.
So that's the one that we raceall the time.
That's you know.
That's the one that we have allour records on, Um, that's you
know.
That's that's the one I'm goingto take to a big event, usually
, especially if I'm riding withother cruise bikes.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
So I was wondering what the numbers were were, I
didn't, but now that you talkabout the angle of the seat,
that makes complete sense.
So that was one of the thingsthat Matt said, that how the
inertia or energy that he had toput out to maintain some of the
rides and in 2022, we had, youknow, decent, decent ride.
Not a lot of elevation thatyear, not as not super big peaks

(30:27):
, but now 23.
23 man, there was some there wasa mountain but um, that's what
he was telling us, that, um, andhow much enjoyment he got from
riding it, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
So when he gave us your information, we were like,
yes, we would love to talk toher um one thing I'm going to
say, adam, uh-oh, we had a justto give a kind of a background
here.
We had an interview withanother person two days ago and
their episode will be coming outhere in a week or two.
One of our teammates, and younoticed she also mentioned the

(31:04):
C&O and Gap Ride.
She did yeah.
So I'm thinking this ride keepscoming up and keeps coming up.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
that's when we got to put on the list.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
That's weird, that it came up in two interviews back
to back.
So it's.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
It's been in my bucket list forever.
I mean, I've ridden all overthe place, but I have always
wanted to do that ride and theq45 is the perfect bike for it.
In fact, we're going to take myhusband and I, my, my daughter
and son-in-law, my twograndchildren on it next year,
so looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
So one of the things on the website is your husband,
I believe, makes a statementthat he feels that it's the
safest bicycle, and I was justcurious if you would.
Would you mind touch on?
See, I really did do myresearch, you did touch on.

(31:53):
See, I really did do myresearch, you did.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Could you talk about why that statement is there or
why you feel that Sure?
Well, you know, we didn't thinka lot about it initially, but
then we had a customer get backto us after he'd had a T-bone
somebody had pulled out in frontof him and he he T-boned it and
he had broken both of hisankles.
But he said I feel like if Ihad been on a traditional bike

(32:18):
my head would have hit, I wouldhave been dead.
And so we started thinkingabout that and thinking, you
know, that's that our bodyposition probably is safer.
We never go, that our bodyposition probably is safer.
We never go.
And like all of our legacyfriends, our friends who ride
legacy bicycles, have brokentheir collarbone at some time or
another.
Many, many cyclists have donethat.

(32:40):
Because when you go over thehandlebars which you usually do
because your head is forward andyour body weight is forward you
break, you often break yourcollarbone.
So we don't.
We don't have those kinds offalls on a cruise bike.
Our body weight is low andcentered between the wheels, and
so it's not that I don't wreck.
I have wrecked many times, butit's always a slide out and you
know, I ended up scraping my hipor something.
So you know, we, we have a goodview of the road.

(33:04):
You know, I think mostly justwe have a good view of the road.
You know, I think mostly just.
I remember I got back on atraditional bike after many
years on the cruise bike,because I wanted to do a
triathlon and USA triathlondoesn't allow recumbent bikes,
and so I borrowed my friend'sbike and I remember thinking, oh
, yeah, this I forgot how highand forward my body weight is

(33:25):
that it felt, you know, tippyhigh and forward my body weight
is that it felt, you know, tippy.
So, um, yeah, we, we really,you know we, we'd love to do
some real testing, but we, we,you know, we have had, we've
sold many bicycles and ourbicycles, people really ride
them a lot.
It's not, you know, it's notsomething you stick in your
garage because it's comfortable,and so you know we, we haven't,

(33:48):
we haven't lost people inbicycle accidents.
Um, not to say that it can'thappen or wouldn't happen, but
um, but you know you don't, youjust don't go over the
handlebars, and I think that'sthe most dangerous part of a of
a traditional bike wreck.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know it's funny.
You say that because, um, whileMichael and I are definitely
not racers well, michael, Iwon't speak for you.
I'm not a racer, but I, I knewhe wasn't, but I was trying to
be but we both do ride with aerobars, but the aero bars are
more for comfort of being ableto lay down on long periods of
long stretches changingpositions.

(34:22):
That's what you're talking aboutwhich is you know of, of you
know becoming complacent, lyingin the prone position or
whatever you want to say upfront, just laying down while
you're pedaling for a longperiod of time.
And then, of course, if a carpulled out in front of you
quickly at a T-bone, I feel likeI would be sliding across the,
sliding across the roof, so Icould.

(34:44):
I really appreciate youexplaining that.
I was wondering what statementwas for and I appreciate you
telling us about that.
Something I'm curious about isthe 3,000 miles to a cure.
Would you mind the touch onthat?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
a passion project.
Well, actually, cruise Bike'skind of a passion project too.
It started as a hobby businessand now it's.
You know it's a real business,but it's.
We do it because we absolutelylove it.
But 3,000 Miles to a Curestarted when my sister, jenny,
was diagnosed with glioblastomamultiforme, gbm, which is a kind
of brain cancer that's veryserious.
This happened.
She was diagnosed in 2012.
And she was.

(35:36):
I come from a family of six.
She was 10 months older than Iam and we were best friends and
we had kids the same ages andshe, I mean, she was just my
heart and soul and she was 50something 51 when she was
diagnosed, with five children,some still young.
And I was just so angry becauseI remember, you know, my
husband is a physician and welooked, we quickly got into all

(35:59):
the research and there was allthis research that was being
done in mouse models and thereand there wasn't the money to
bring it to human clinicaltrials and I knew that Jenny
would probably not survive.

(36:19):
But I decided that I was goingto raise a million dollars.
Just a rash.
I was 49 years old, so she was50.
I'm going to raise a milliondollars for brain cancer
research and in my sort of griefI was delusional about A a
million dollars isn't that muchin research world and B a

(36:40):
million dollars is a lot whenyou're trying to raise it.
But I decided to.
I was riding the bike the V20 atthe time and racing a lot and
setting records, and my husbandhad been trying to get me to do
Race Across America, which is arace that starts in San Diego
and ends in Annapolis, and it'sa I don't know if your listeners

(37:04):
are familiar with it, but it'sa one-stage race.
So basically the gun goes offin San Diego and the first
person to Annapolis wins.
And it's famous in theultra-cycling world, which we're
very much involved in, becauseultra-cycling welcomes recumbent
bikes and so we're always doingthese 12 and 24-hour races
because they let us in, theyhave divisions for us, whereas

(37:26):
the traditional USA cycling isnot welcoming to recumbents, and
so in the ultra cycling worldit's just kind of.
Everybody knows about it andit's also, I think Outdoor
Magazine said it was the world'stoughest race.
Wow, Because basically youdon't sleep much, you just pedal
and pedal and pedal and pedalover all those mountain ranges,

(37:46):
and so Jim had wanted me to doRace Across America and all of a
sudden, I had this just griefand frustration, and I said I
want to do it, I'm going toraise some money.
So we started 3,000 Miles to aCure.
That's why it has that name3,000 Miles to a Cure because
it's a 3,000 mile race and I didit in 2013.

(38:07):
It was the hardest thing I'veever done.
It was truly, you know, justreally really tough.
Probably not as hard as braincancer, but really really hard.
We had a, we had an accident.
Our follow vehicle was wasdestroyed early in the race and
we came back we kind of wereearly in the race and we came

(38:29):
back.
We kind of were out of the race.
Then we came back.
There's a movie about it calledHope that's on our 3,000 Miles
to a Cure website but in the endI won.
I was the first female finisher, Took 11 days I don't like the
audio stuff so that was in 2013.

(38:51):
And we raised something like$70,000 for brain cancer
research, which is just a dropin the bucket.
So I was just after that.
Jenny was getting sicker and Iwas spending more time with her.
We had other people do RaceAcross America for 3,000 Miles
to a Cure.
She died in 2014, in June, June19th, 2014.

(39:14):
And so it's been 10 years.
I'm sorry, yeah, I miss herevery day and I was just like I
got to make some meaning out ofthis stupid, senseless loss, of
this amazing.
I mean, we were going to.
We always talked about, youknow, being in the nursing home
together when our husbands weredead.
We were definitely planning ongrowing old together.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
So it's a cruise bikes down the hall.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I don't know about Jenny, she's too nice but I
probably wouldn't.
But yeah, so and since thenthen we've been continuing to
raise money for brain cancerresearch.
Our, our biggest fundraiser nowis is called Crossing the
Canyon.
We go across the Grand Canyonevery year.
In fact, we're going a weekfrom Monday.

(40:00):
We're going to be crossing theGrand Canyon.
This year we usually have 25 or30 people that go with us.
We do it in a day.
We stay in the North Rim andthen get up early in the morning
and we hike down the North Rim,across the Grand Canyon up to
the South Rim.
It's about a 26-mile hike, justtons and tons of elevation.
It's a really, reallychallenging hike to do in a day,

(40:22):
but it's a great fundraiser andlots of times people who do it
have been impacted by braincancer a great fundraiser and
lots of times people who do ithave been impacted by brain
cancer.
It's extremely beautiful andhealing to go through the Grand
Canyon and with other people whohave sort of had that loss, and
we have a lot of people comeback year after year, some
people who have lost family toother diseases, just because
it's so.
It's so incredibly healing.

(40:42):
So we're doing that.
And then I the book that youmentioned I wrote called Do
Tough, is actually about mysister and about doing Race
Across America and it's it's,it's.
All of the proceeds the salesof the book go to raising money

(41:02):
for brain to brain cancerresearch, every every penny.
And I would say it's it's aboutI kind of tell stories about
Jenny and stories about Ram andit's really like how do you get
through something that's hardthat you didn't choose, unchosen
suffering, like what Jenny wasdoing.
And then how do you dosomething hard that you did

(41:24):
choose, like a lot of athletesdo, hard things like race across
America, and it's just, youknow, I think it's, it's pretty
good, it's not it's not you.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
can we have a decent listenership that like your
support?
Where would someone find thatbook Is?

Speaker 4 (41:41):
that on Amazon?
It is on Amazon.
Yes, it's called by MariaParker.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, and what?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
we're also going to do is I'm going to also drop
your 3,000 Miles to a Curewebsite.
Oh, thank you.
It'll be in the notes of thisshow and I'll drop it on our
website as well.
So if people want to go checkthat out, we're going to urge
them to do so.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, thanks, yeah, so it doesn't everything.
I'm an athlete, I have anathlete's mindset.
I I like to do hard things.
I'm my, my father's, my, mydad's 94 and still alive and
doing well.
I'm my father's daughter, forsure, but it it doesn't.
You know, the book isn't about,just like I said, about doing

(42:23):
hard things because you chosethem.
But it's like you know we all.
Nobody gets through life withoutsuffering.
You know some of it's, some ofit's.
You know some of it's planned.
You know some of it.
You know about some of it, youdon't.
So it's, you know it's.
And I think one of the thingsthat I look at and I have four
adult children and now ninegrandchildren, and I think one

(42:44):
of the things we've kind ofgotten away from in our culture
is like, what do you do whensomething hard happens?
You know a lot of people don'treally know.
I mean, we have such a goodlife, we have such a soft life
in a lot of ways, that whensomething comes along that's
unexpected or difficultemotionally, physically, you

(43:04):
know, people don't really know.
And I would maintain and Idon't know if you guys would
agree with this, but I wouldmaintain that a little suffering
is good that it makes you knowthat it teaches us something.
Teaches us about ourselves andabout life, and so the book's
about that Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, I would agree.
I mean such as why this isreally selfish.
But like things like brag andrag bride doing things like that
where you sign up for it, youknow you choose to pay the money
, right, but the accomplishmentfeeling sometimes in the middle
of those rides I'm like what?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Why did I do this?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, exactly.
But then again, you'reabsolutely right, even when it
comes to things that are nonwell, it's fun for me, I'm not
sure someone.
Although we always laugh whenyou sign up for like a ride,
they're like, okay, we need yourid.
Like who the heck would sign upfor this if they really wanted
to?
So who would be?

Speaker 4 (43:52):
like yep, I'm adam I'm covering for somebody else,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Sometimes things happen at work where you never
expected it or wanted it, orsometimes things come up in life
and obviously with your sister,and and how do we get through
that?
So no, no, I think that's great, I think that's.
I'm actually interested.
Now the Grand Canyon Walk.
We happen to know this iscoming out early October and

(44:19):
you're already going to be donewith the ride.
If we had the link, would itstill be helpful for the
listeners.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, People can donate anytime.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Okay, I'll tell you what when we're done.
If you don't mind to email methe actual link, we'll get that
put on as well.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Absolutely.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
No, absolutely that her stupid,shitty, sorry, bad death.
You know, you know just thisbad thing.

(44:51):
You know that that we're goingto try to make some good out of
it.
And I think when one of thegreat tips on when you do, you
know lots of times, lots oftimes things come quickly like
you're doing your life and youturn the corner and something
you know bad happens.
You know it's sudden and andand it's.

(45:12):
It's good to remember in thosemoments that you can.
It's somewhere along the lineyou're going to.
You can choose to make good outof it in your own family, in
your life, in your mind or forthe world.
And so I I hope that thefundraising that we're doing for
brain cancer research is goingto make a difference, even
though it's still just a drop inthe world.
And so I hope that thefundraising that we're doing for
brain cancer research is goingto make a difference, even
though it's still just a drop inthe bucket and it's also just a

(45:33):
great memorial to my sister.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Absolutely.
I respect that and even thoughyou know, I completely
understand what you mean by whenyou say drop in the bucket, but
think about those buckets startto add up.
So, without your efforts, um,it could be even more in the
rear.
So, hopefully, um, it advances.
Uh, it's amazing how you knowyou'd think in 2024 the
technology that we havemedically would, you know, be so

(45:59):
far advanced and we keep it'sgetting there yeah we're close,
we're close.
Yeah, you know.
You always see movies where,like the oh, they show the
hologram, like, oh, his arm'sbroken.
We could just know, meld itwith this.
You know, which would befantastic if they could hurry up
and figure that hugebreakthrough, like right now
there's been a huge breakthroughin skin cancer.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
People still die of skin cancer but there's been
just the immunotherapy is justlike it's turned the corner.
Think about leukemia andlymphoma, like when I was a
little girl, our friend, myfriend, I had a friend who died
from it.
Kids don't die from thatanymore Thanks to the leukemia
and lymphoma fundraising.
And same thing with breastcancer my husband's a
mammographer and thanks to thepeople, many, many, many, many

(46:54):
people who've been out thereraising money um for, for breast
cancer.
You know we have a whole monthnow dedicated to breast cancer.
You know it's not a deathsentence.
Many of my friends will getbreast cancer, including my
sister, but they won't die fromit.
So you know there's it's, it's,there's a lot of hope.
And you know, I would also sayI think we tend to be I've

(47:14):
noticed this.
I've talked to groups about,you know, raising money for
brain cancer research and otherthings, and I think we tend to
be cynical.
You know we like, ah, it's hardand this, my five bucks, isn't
going to do anything.
But I think we have a soft sideof it.
Like if you're moved, whatever,I always really try to live this

(47:34):
way myself.
If somebody asks me forsomething or if I'm moved by a
story, I try not to let thecynical side of myself say this
isn't going to do it or thisisn't going to mean it.
I try to just give and Iencourage people give, do work.
It's like, if you're moved,don't listen to the cynicism
that says this isn't going to doany good.
My little things, the dollarthat I drop in the homeless

(47:55):
guy's cup is not going to make adifference.
If you're moved to do it, do it.
Listen to the grace moment inyour head.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I didn't have this written down, but can I ask you
a question Did that change foryou after your sister's
diagnosis, or were you alwaysthat way?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
No, definitely after Jenny, I was well, I was, you
know, I guess before Jenny wasdiagnosed, I was just living my
life.
I really wasn't thinking aboutanybody but me and her.
But actually, though, jenny'ssickness and also the act of
creating a nonprofit and tryingto fundraise yeah, and a lot of

(48:36):
people are out there trying tofundraise and people are
constantly asking you for moneyon Facebook oh my God, if I know
them and I, like I said, if myheart is moved, like lots of
times I just go right by it, buta lot of times I give to so
many MS rides, so many, and Ifeel like that's making a

(48:56):
difference and we can't let ourwe just can't, like I said, let
our cynicism keep us from doingthe little bit of good, because
it's all the people who donatedto our campaigns, right, and
it's not been one person, peoplewho donated to our campaigns,
and it's not been one person.
There's been I don't know howmany thousands and thousands of
people have donated over theselast 10 years or 12 years, and

(49:17):
together we're going to give amillion dollars for brain cancer
research.
So give, give if you're asked,give if you're moved.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Now you seem like a very respectable person, but I
do have a little bit of arecommendation.
Between now and November Iwould put your cell phone down,
because both parties are goingto ask for more and more money.
I'm just kidding, I'm sorry shesaid she has to feel moved.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
So you know there's a caveat in there, I swear.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Every day I pick up my phone I'm like, OK, I get it,
and that's the problem with theelection season, and you know
it comes out of the woodworks.
And then afterwards you're like, oh, I got a couple of years
before this starts again.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Well, politics is something else, yeah, and we
don't talk about that on thisshow.
So, um, really different show.
But I want to.
I want to switch up our topicsa little bit because, um, you
are a fellow podcaster, yes anduh, adam, and I checked into it
and listened to it and I was alittle surprised when I looked
at it.
It's called the champions mojofor master swimmers, right?
So tell me about that, becauseyou're a cyclist and you're on a

(50:32):
podcast for swimming.
Explain how that worked out?

Speaker 4 (50:37):
That's a great question.
So my husband's sister, KellyPallas, who's my co-host, is the
most amazing person you'll evermeet.
Today's her birthday.
I'm going to send her thispodcast so she can hear me
saying these things about her.
I love her so much.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Happy birthday, kelly .
Happy birthday, happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
So she's been well.
She's my sister, you know,sister, lost sister, and she is
the reason that I am in sports,because when I first married her
baby brother, I was 22 yearsold and I was kind of a chubby
little.
I mean, I just was not anathlete for sure.
I call myself a born againathlete because I didn't, you

(51:19):
know, she encouraged me to startrunning.
She encouraged me to startdoing things and I remember one
time I, you know, I had beenrunning for several years and
she got me to do this, my first5k.
I write about this in the bookand I, I went out way too fast
and I almost had an accident.
I mean, it was just, it wasjust so funny.
But she just kept encouragingme over the years to do sports.

(51:42):
And then, uh, at one point shesaid I said, well, I'm not
really an athlete, and at thispoint I'd been running, you know
, I'd run a marathon.
She said, just, stop sayingthat, maria, you are an athlete.
And I started thinking ofmyself that way.
So she's been sort of my coach,my mentor, my friend, and so
she decided she wanted to do apodcast about well, it was

(52:05):
really.
It didn't start out aboutswimming.
It started out just talking topeople who were, you know, just
doing amazing things.
You know, champions basically.
But she was and is an amazingswimmer.
She was a coach, she was anOlympic trials qualifier, she
was a division one coach and sheis now a world record holding

(52:27):
master swimmer.
So she's been a swimmer herwhole life.
So we ended up talking to theseamazing swimmers and coaches
and Olympians and it becameclear that master swimming was a
really good niche for us.
So we started talking about andto master swimmers.
Now I swim and now there's a.

(52:49):
There's an organization thatallows recumbent bikes called
California Triathlon, caltri,and so I have been swimming so
that I can participate in thesetriathlons.
But I am nowhere near I meannowhere near the speed or
quality of a swimmer, but I likeswimming, I'm interested in

(53:11):
swimming, but mostly I'm justinterested in the mindset of
people who get up every day andgo to a pool and put their head
down and swim yards and yardsand yards and who compete.
The thing about master swimmingthat's really amazing is you
can do it your whole life.
Like there are 90, lots of 90year olds doing master swimming

(53:31):
events.
So these people are amazing andthey're smart and they're
inspirational.
So once it moved towards masterswimming, it's like you know,
I'll do some swimming.
I'm probably never going to putright, not never, but at this
point in my life.
I'm more serious about mycycling, but I love talking
about it.
So that's how I got to be theco-host of a master swimming
podcast and also we sort ofmanifested this.

(53:54):
Kelly and I love talking toeach other, but we live in
different places and we're likewe're going to try to talk once
a week and we just wouldn't.
And then, once we started thepodcast, now we're talking once
a week about the things we'rereally interested in, which is
you know, how do you succeed inlife, how do you be a nice
person?
How do you?
You know, how do you do whatyou can to live the best life
that you can?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Well, that's funny because Adam and I don't live
anywhere near each other.
We're nine hours apart.
I'm in Kansas.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
City.
He's right outside of Detroit.
We're not going to hold thatagainst him.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
So this gives us an opportunity to talk too Exactly.
To go back, just in case youstill have any doubts that
you're not an athlete, I lookedup some of your records.
You are a world's record holderin 24-hour road racing.
12-hour road racing.
Listen to this Adam 200-mileroad racing.

(54:49):
Listen to this Adam 200 mileroad race.
She went like 21 and a halfmiles an hour for 200 miles.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Average 21 miles an hour.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah 21.54 to be exact.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
If you say yes, I'm getting out my credit card.
That's the bike.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
So you know, I mean, there's no doubt you're, you're
definitely an athlete.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
So yeah, well, I'm a, I'm one of these, I'm at the
endurance mindset I like.
I like to just sort of put myhead down.
And my husband, on the otherhand, he's a sprinter and he
just, you know, I always laughwhen we ride together.
He goes ahead, I catch up, hegoes ahead, I catch up, he goes
ahead, I catch up, he goes.
Hey, cause he?
Because he pedals and coasts.
I never coast, we always laughLike.

(55:31):
I don't coast, I always pedaland he just goes really, really
hard and then he goes.
So it's, you know, it's just adifferent kind of thing.
I it's.
It's hard for me to think ofmyself as well.
It was hard for me to think ofmyself as an athlete.
Now I know, you know that I ambecause I, I'm disciplined and I
put the time in and and I don'tmind suffering a little bit.
Do you want to tell you I'll go?

Speaker 3 (55:59):
ahead I take advantage of the coast Anytime I
can get it.
Mother nature wants to.
Let me use gravity.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
I'm all in.
So that's how Jim is too.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
So, maria, you may not know this, but I recently
lost about 87 pounds.
I also enjoyed it.
Thank you so much.
I used to enjoy the coast tooDownhill, Not so much the uphill
.
I never liked going uphill.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Yeah, you kind of lose that when you lose that
weight you're not going as fastdownhill.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Oh yeah, because sometimes I'd be like okay, see
you at the bottom and then like,okay, see you at the bottom and
then they watch people pass melike I'll catch you at the top.
And now he's like I'll see youat the top and I'll be like, oh
crud, I've got to really likekick it in here so when we do
those long distance things likebrag or rag, where I, if we get
separated, we have a, just anagreement.

(56:42):
One of us will just get so fardown the road and we'll just
stop, we'll pull over.
I mean, there's nothing,there's no reason to race
through and get to camp at earlyjust to just to set up camp and
stare at each other.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
So we that's so true.
You know, when we do that I amalways telling people we need to
do.
When we do these events, I'mnot racing, I'm just, you know,
having fun and stopping and stopat every rest stop eat all the
food, you know, see everything,Cause that's that's the point of
it.
I do race, and that's adifferent thing, but I love I
was just.
It's funny that we've beentalking about this, because

(57:14):
today I was talking to Jim like,hi, I want to do more touring,
I want to do less racing.
I just really love especiallythese kinds of events where you
all met and became friends.
Yeah, it's so fun to gatherwith a bunch of other people and
everybody at the end of thenight.
When they get to, you know,after the 55 or 16 miles,
they're high, they're happy, youknow, they're relaxed, they
come out of their the showertruck, they're feeling great.

(57:36):
It's just it's, it's a rollingparty.
It's just.
If people have neverexperienced a multi-day cycling
tour, you guys are missing out.
I know I'm probably preaching tothe choir with your
listenership.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Most of our listeners have have done it or are
considering it, I think.
I think we pick up organiclisteners, who, who might not
have had the chance yet.
But you know, we talk about ita lot and for us I think it's
the same thing.
It's like the high of beingmulti day and going, of being
multi-day and going.
I recently told Michael thatdoing a century for me parking

(58:15):
at a parking lot and doing aloop and coming back to the same
parking lot, is nowhere nearenjoyable as starting from town
A and finishing in town BDefinitely much more enjoyable.
Like, yeah, I went, you know,in my most jagged way, but I
went from A to B.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Absolutely.
And if food is involved, ifbeer is involved, if coffee is
involved, all the better.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
We're throwing a little bourbon too.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Bourbon, bourbon cigars.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, that's our thing.
A lot of people go and peoplewho don't know us.
They'll say you guys go out andpedal 100 miles and have a
cigar.
Yep, like, doesn't that hurtyour cycling?
I'm like, well, I'm notinhaling.
And I'm just you know, I'm sureit's not the healthiest, but
everyone has some sort of vice.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, yeah, Go ahead.
You know, if that is going tohurt me by you know five minutes
, I really don't think that's abig deal because I'm not racing.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
So if it slows me down, a little bit, it's okay.
And, and the, the.
I love the little towns that wego through and the people that
you meet, and and I'm, I'm.
I wouldn't call myself a foodiebecause my tastes aren't that
sophisticated, but I love to eatand I love to try new foods.
So these multi-day events, youknow, they allow you to try

(59:33):
different things and you'recycling all day so you can eat
whatever you want.
You don't have to bedisciplined at all, which and
like, if I'm doing a cycling, amulti-day cycling events, ice
cream every night, every night.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
That was a nice thing about Bragg, where they had
those.
Italian ices on the last reststop.
I'm like man, I miss Mood DogCafe right now.
I would love to see those guys.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
They were great.
They were great and we were upin Michigan.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I mean, I think the lady just had memorized my
credit card number at the DQ.
We were literally, especiallythe layover night.
We were at DQ like three timesin those two days.
So oh yeah, a lot of ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I started the week being a good boy and I said I'm
going to have a small, I'm goingto have a small.
And then one night we had alayover night and I'm like I'm
going for the medium, whichdoesn't really give a deal.
But you know, I've worked sohard to lose the weight but I'm
having a medium.
And I got home and I thought,okay, you know you're pedaling
and moving so much.
So, like you had a big tent andyou were doing promotion, do

(01:00:30):
you do a normal week-long ride ayear?
Is that something that you know?
You put that out there, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Well, we were doing.
You know it can be lonely I'mspeaking to all your recumbent
riders out there it can belonely being on a recumbent.
You know you're not, you knowyou're like the odd kid on the
block.
You, you feel like a cyclist.
But other cyclists, you knowjust, they're usually polite and

(01:01:23):
curious, but sometimes they'rerude.
And so we started having thesewe call them ride retreats,
where we get as many customersas we could.
We had one in Oregon and we'vehad, um, we've had.
We had one in Indiana, we'vehad, we have them kind of all
over the place in North Carolina.
And then we decided why are weorganizing these things?
Because there's all thesewonderful organized rides all
over the country.

(01:01:43):
You know why don't we just glomonto one of them so?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
we started.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I think um, um, uh, big Big Brag was maybe our first
big ride together and we had aball.
We put up our tent just as aplace to hang out, but it makes
our customers.
I don't know how many we hadthere, maybe 20, maybe 30.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
You had a big group.
I remember you had a big group.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
And for the very first time for many of our
customers, we were the cool kids, like we had a community.
And I'm telling you it's, it ishard to be the nerdy kid riding
the weird bike.
You know, I've been doing itfor 20 years now and it's, it's,
it's.
You know, I like to fit in justas much as the next person does
.
I'm not willing to to ride atraditional bike, but I, you

(01:02:29):
know so.
So we had these events and andBig Brag was super fun.
Everybody came and gathered andum at the tent every night and
we talked, you know, about ourbikes and we bring our.
Uh, robert Holler is a partowner of our company and also
our chief mechanic and you know,he kind of helps people work on
their bikes and, uh, it's justsuper fun.
And and Big Brag treated us sowell.
It was, you know, he kind ofhelps people work on their bikes

(01:02:49):
and it's just super fun.
And Big Brag treated us so well.
It was, you know.
They said please come back.
But then the next year, justout of convenience for my
husband and I, we went to one inFlorida I forget what it's
called.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Safari.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Bicycle Safari.
Yeah, and that was amazingbecause we didn't.
You know, we just camped in oneplace, so there was, in some
ways it was a lot easier.
We did that for two years, butwe're doing next year.
I've always wanted to doRAGBRAI, never done it.
So next year Cruise Bike isdoing RAGBRAI and I've got to
get into the logistics of howwe're going to do it and maybe

(01:03:28):
you guys have done it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
I assume we could definitely help you.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
We've done it many years.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Michael's done it six times, I've done it five, so we
would definitely extendcourtesy of just giving some
opinions such as charter versusnon-charter.
you know, especially like if youhave the cruise bike community,
it all agrees on one charter.
I think you guys would be ableto stick together and have that
bonding time again.

(01:03:52):
And I can certainly understandwhat you mean, Because Cycling
Men of Leisure and Cycling Womenof Leisure is just an idea of a
club.
It's a mindset of being goodstewards of good people and
doing the right thing andtreating people the right way,
which made me kind of chucklewhen you were saying that people
don't treat recumbent riders ina respectful manner.
If you belong to the socialmedia part of RAGBRAI, I'll tell

(01:04:21):
you what they really slam one-bikers out there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
So I think you'd be one step ahead of the e-bike.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I don't understand that, Do you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I mean you want to ride an e-bike?
Go ahead.
That's your prerogative.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
I mean I just, that's what we've often said.
We did an episode on e-bikes.
You know that there'sdifferences in them and they're
not you know, pedal assist andall this, and we broke that down
, but it really came up that youknow what?
It's a way for people Noteverybody, but it's a way for a

(01:04:50):
lot of people to get theopportunity to go out there,
enjoy the outdoors, enjoy thecommunity and be able to ride,
who otherwise may not be able todue to you know, absolutely,
that's what I'm saying there'sother people just riding them
for the heck of it, and that'sfine too.
I mean, you know, we don't, allyou know, drive Fords or Chevys
or whatever.
Yeah, I do not understand theyou know drive Fords or Chevys
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
So, yeah, yeah, I do.
I do not understand the.
You know, I actually dounderstand it.
And I'm going to take a littleside trip here, because one of
the things that we've learned aswe've come along the road and
producing cruise bikes is thatthe traditional cycling
community is extremelyconservative I mean extremely.

(01:05:34):
And they don't, you know, theydon't like change.
One time my husband well, Iwon't tell this story because
it's so negative, but they don'tlike change.
And you guys have heard aboutthe rules, rule number five you
know, you know that kind ofstuff is just that's keeping

(01:05:56):
women and other people out ofcycling you know, and and I know
I walk into most bike shops andI feel bad, I do not feel seen,
and I think a lot of women feelthis way it's a, it's hard,
it's, it's, you know, it's get.
You know bicycles are gadgetyand you know they're fidgety,
and you know, and there's allyou know.
I mean now I know all theterminology cause I own a

(01:06:18):
bicycle company, but before Ididn't you know bottom bracket,
what the heck's a bottom bracket?
You know.
It's a bearing.
No, just kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I guess my point is you knowwe need to be a bigger tent and
we really we need to helppeople feel accepted in the

(01:06:41):
cycling community, no matterwhat.
I mean.
They're three wheels, fourwheels, electric.
You know I can understandpeople not wanting a gasoline
powered.
You know a bike making a lot ofnoise nearby, but an electric
bike.
You know a bike making a lot ofnoise nearby, but an electric
bike.
You know who who cares?
I, I just and, and, and I thinkthat comes it.
Just it's because thetraditional cycling community is
extremely conservative and it'sstarting to break open a little

(01:07:02):
bit.
I think e-bikes has been thebest thing that ever happened to
the cycling community because,as you said.
So take a guy who likes tocycle and he's he'd love to
cycle with his significant other, but she can't keep up with him
and she gets a bike with alittle pedal assist.
All of a sudden they're havinga great time every weekend
riding together and she doesn'thave to be scared that she can't

(01:07:22):
get up that hill and so, yeah,bring them in whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Only because you mentioned this company.
I would never mention anothercompany with with speaking to
you, but you mentioned trek andtrek as it's trek travel, and
they do that.
They do offer the e-bike versionfor family members who can't
climb the hills and yeah so I Ithink you're absolutely right,
and even you've never had achance to see our flag.
But we bring a flag to theseevents and on the flag we have

(01:07:50):
an e-bike on there, we've got aunicycle, we've got a regular.
That's great.
I mean, we tandem, we welcomeevery well, tandem.
I'm kidding, but um, there'swhere we draw the line you know,
we, we, we believe in, likemichael said, just getting
outdoors.
I mean, we're concerned thatwhat we're seeing is is the
older generation, and I thinkthis goes along with right what

(01:08:12):
you're saying with beingconservative, that the cycling
community is aging together.
Now, I'm sure you have a few,but not a lot of younger people
we always notice are not gettinginto.
When I was a kid, we lived outin the country.
I literally rode my bike likeseven, eight miles, which
doesn't sound like a lot, but itwas a one-year For a kid yeah,
like a little BMX bike, and Iwould ride it into town because

(01:08:34):
I wanted to get into town.
So I think about that now.
And then, when I was gettingback into cycling, someone said
oh, you got to buy a bicycle.
I said bicycle.
I've ridden a bicycle since Iwas a kid.
They're like, oh man, it's greatand I just re-fell in love with
the idea of being out there andthe freedom of being outdoors
and being with my friends andmeeting the people along the way

(01:08:55):
, and I mean, like Matt, who'sintroduced us to you I mean, you
know, cycling has done so muchand my best friend, who I'm
sitting here on a digital screenwith, yeah, that's amazing,
isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
I mean, so here we met.
It's kind of a miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, I mean on this ride, and then we got interest
together and if we haven't hadinterest together, like he's
taught me some stuff about youknow, things that he and his
family are into, and then Ishowed him my addiction, which
is the wall behind me, and it'snot so much drinking, and
everyone always says to me well,how come you don't seem like
you drink a lot?
Because it's more of thehistory and the collection and

(01:09:32):
the color, the color.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
There's so much color in it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
And then the distilleries that we go on
cycling trips.
So we make it on purpose, wekind of mash it all together,
yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Yeah, no, I love it.
I think that's right.
Yeah, I would encourage youknow, reason we three love
cycling is because when we wereI always say this when we were
seven years old, we could get ona bike and we had freedom.
I think some people.
This happens with boats, but forme it was a bicycle.

(01:10:03):
I cycled away from my parents,I cycled to the store to buy
myself something.
I cycled and I think when youget back on a bike as an adult,
you're sort of recapturing.
It's a different kind offreedom, but it's still.
It's freedom from your life,from your computer, from your

(01:10:24):
you know you're, you're out andyou can't talk on the phone.
While you're on a bicycle, youcannot be in your Instagram
while you're on a bicycle, youhave to be enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Please don't, please don't.
That's the one thing aboutRAGBRAI.
You talked about cruise bike.
Looking into that.
That is going to be the bestthing, because one of the best
things about RAGBRAI is I have apersonal phone and a phone for
work and they're like anchorsand I carry them everywhere in
my personal life and when I'mout in Iowa.
It doesn't work.
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
It's true at the bottom of the Grand Canyon too,
if you want to go someplace.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
There's no cell service, there you go Forced
disconnect.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
You can't do it, so there's no point in worrying
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Right, right, right.
I do have one quick funny story.
In 2016, when we did Ragbribri,unfortunately someone made a
mistake and did something theyshouldn't have, and they and
they.
They met their maker by doing.
They told them not to go out tothe river and he decided to go
out to the river.
It was early and he got hit bya truck, and I'm not taking
anything away from that beinglight about that, but what
ragbri did at the time is theysent out.

(01:11:26):
They had an app and they sentout a push notification that
says man dies at rag rhyme.
And my my now wife and I hadjust began dating, but it was
like we knew that this was goingto turn into something more,
and so I then said I'm going togo to Iowa for a week and we
were traveling, and so she textsme because she was at home, who

(01:11:46):
had the app, who got the pushnotification, and she said.
She said I'm sure you're fine,but could you please let me know
you're okay?
And then I didn't know it, butthroughout the day the texts had
gone on and on.
Well, we were out on the roadfor eight, nine, ten hours and
then I got into town and I hadlike 18 messages and they ranged
from I'm sure you're fine tothe last one, and Michael can

(01:12:07):
tell you if I'm lying.
Oh, I'm just going to assumeyou're dead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
It was good knowing you had it.
You could have had a wonderfullife, but you had to go cycling.
She had no idea that therewouldn't be and, like most
people, they think, oh well,you're out riding, well you can
just pick up the phone.
But they don't have any ideathat, like a lot of rides, and
still there's a lot of places inthe United States that doesn't
have good cell coverage, thatyou know you go to RAGBRAI and

(01:12:36):
there's 15, 20,000 riders there.
They dismantle, you know, thecell towers pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
Oh, I bet that's good when I called her and she heard
my voice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
She was happy again.
We've been married eight years,so we're good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
She had a bad date with Dave, right, it's like okay
, I don't need to go out withDave now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Dave, I can't go on that date now.
He's a liar.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Turns out, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Well, I have had such a wonderful time talking to you
.
I am so glad that you talked tous about Jenny, your sister,
and we will definitely please doyou and I have been emailing a
little bit Please send me thelinks for the fundraising and we
can get that on there.
And so great to talk to you andMichael, do you have anything
else that you have?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
One thing I'd like to say is you know, keep us up to
date what's going on at CruiseCycles?
and you know the activities thatyou guys are doing on the for
the charity work.
Yeah, three thousand miles, youknow.
Every once in a while, if youthink about it, drop us a line,
let us know what you're doingand we'll certainly pass that
along, because we definitely,you know, want to want to it's

(01:13:52):
about community and wedefinitely want to, you know,
hang out and keep the communitygoing, and although neither of
us have a tandem or a recumbentbike, you never know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, you may want some one someday.
I will tell you about an eventwe're doing.
That's also a fundraiser for3000 Miles to a C cure in
November, november 3rd, um, we,we met this couple who both of
them had bought cruise bikes andthey were my husband's and I

(01:14:21):
and my age roughly.
It was great they they live in29 in Arizona, and so so we
decided we do some eventstogether because they they like
to race too.
And so in November we're goingto the world ultra cycling time
trial championships in BorregoSprings, and I am teaming up

(01:14:43):
with Laura, and my husband isteaming up with John, and we're
racing the boys against thegirls who can do more miles in
24 hours.
So, um and, and we're going tohave a web uh, on 3000 miles to
a cure.
We'll have a um.
We haven't started yet causewe're doing crossing the Canyon
right now, but we're going tohave a little place where you
can vote with your money,because we have two charities

(01:15:06):
3000 miles to a cure and thenanother charity that people can
can give to.
That is Laura's um charity.
So we're trying here.
So I'm just going to put it outthere and this is going to
laying my the challenge downwe're trying to do 500 miles and
24 hours.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Okay, never done that , so it'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
That's our goal.
You're not an athlete.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
But I will say right here the girls are for sure
going to beat the boys.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Well, if I was.
Just I don't know the guys, butfrom what I've heard here I'm
willing to put my money on thewomen in honor of the cycling
women of leisure series shows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
There you go, ladies.
Let's, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Ladies, yeah, thanks, I appreciate the opportunity to
talk about that and to talkabout cycling with you guys.
Yeah, let's keep in touch, andI do need your help on the
RAGBRAI, so I'll be, emailingyou.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Even if it's not for a show.
You want to just pick up thephone.
Michael and I would be.
You know we always joke about,hey, we could help out, you know
.
So you know, we know which waywe like to do it.
Does that mean it's the rightway?
No, I mean, it's just what youknow.
But we do have some opinions,if you guys have never been, and
just some things that I wishyou know, wish I would have

(01:16:23):
known.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
You'd known the first year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Michael actually went before with his brother-in-law,
and then I with hisbrother-in-law, and and then, um
, I remember our first phonecall I'd be like, well, should I
do this, should I do that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
and they're like, no, like I remember everything that
got written on that pad, adam,don't do any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yeah, I remember, like, because I I'm like a big
planner, I'm a planner, I wantto know this.
Should I bring this?
And, and you know, boy scout,boy scout, boy scout, should I?
I want to be prepared and I'mlike, well, do, like well, do
you need this?
No, do you need this?
Uh, there's phone doesn't evenwork.
Do I need this?
No, and and so some of thosethings we could definitely
definitely be willing to helpand we would love to do that,

(01:17:00):
because I really appreciate yourtime tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Well, thank you.
I appreciate the opportunity totalk to people who are
enthusiastic and welcome to allkinds of cyclists.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Absolutely Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Well, she was absolutely a joy to have on.
I highly enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
She was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
And you know, something I missed before is is
she was actually part of ourcycling women of leisure series.
So last episode we were able tohave Melanie on, and, and this
time Maria, and so we um.
When we find some good ones, wetry to bring it to you, and so
um you know I like those womenin cycling.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
That's, that's always cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Absolutely.
I mean talk about she soundsextremely um, achievement,
achieve, all the achievementsshe's had is just amazing.
So, and the sister and theinspiration there, and and we'll
put the links, as we, as wementioned in the interview,
we'll put those in the in theepisode and so you can find that

(01:18:03):
.
So, maria, on a serious note,thank you, I promised to send
you this link.
Thank you, excellent, excellent, excellent time with you.
I'm so happy.
Sidebar, we have been kind ofhelping out a little bit.
She had some rag-bite questions.
She does want to take thecruise bike group there and so
I've been helping her from ouryears.

(01:18:25):
We could be consultants, myfriend.
We could be.
We've done enough of theserides.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I think, yeah, hopefully one of these days
we'll be able to hook up on aride with the Cruise Bicycle
Group and do a few miles withthem.
That'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, no for sure.
I mean actually, the gentlemanI met yesterday, he even said
that he had never heard ofCruise Bike and then he caught a
YouTube video and he got to seesome inspirational stories
about the bike and about Mariabeing such an inspirational
person that, sight unseen, hebought the bike and so I thought

(01:19:06):
that was really cool.
So I know this show has gone onfor quite some time, but thank
you to all the ladies that wewanted to honor you, and I know
everyone really looks forward toyour hard work, so why don't we
give it one last listenerspotlight?

(01:19:28):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Love those graphics that's spotlight.
All right.
Love those graphics that'sawesome, All right.
This episode's listenerspotlights hints are as follows
this community was founded inthe early 1800s at the
confluence of two rivers.
It is named for a Europeanexplorer.
The area was originallycontrolled by the French.

(01:19:53):
However, due to the Treaty ofParis, the British Empire took
control of the area.
This town was instrumental inhelping create the labor
organization movement and it hasa very notable connection to

(01:20:20):
the Heisman Trophy Very notableconnection.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Any guesses?

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I do, oh, listen to that.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
He didn't just throw out St Louis.
He's like I know what this onemight be.
Okay, cool, I'm not even goingto say it out loud because I
want people.
I'll tell you, I'll text you.
You can tell me if I'm wrong orright.
But I'm not even going to makea guess on the show because I
don't want to lead people.
I love when people guess, but Ipromise you I'll text you when
we're done recording.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Okay, we'll see.
Your batting average hasn'tbeen very good, but there's
always time for improvement.
I like the fact that you saidit with a lot of confidence.
He's like yeah, I know this one, so that's good.
That's good.
It gives me hope that you do infact know it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
We'll see and I will answer honestly next time we
record.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
So whether I was just completely wrong or I, think
you know it from your actionsand how level headed you were
and how cool you were like yeah,I know what this one is.
I'm going to say that you knowit, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Well, listen.
As usual, I want to express mygratitude for those who take the
time to write us.
Absolutely.
Whatever platform you like,whether it's an email, whether
it's text me or the messagesthat you can do from our
cyclingmanableasurepodcastcomthere's a link there.

(01:21:59):
You can send us a one-waymessage.
You could tell us to go getbent.
I can't do anything about it.
It'll come to us.
So please don't, but if youfelt that way, or you can email
us, whatever.
I mean, you guys are awesome.
You're all reaching out to me,whether it's Instagram messaging
or Facebook messaging orwhatever.

(01:22:21):
Oh, I almost missed one.
Our Canadian friend has alittle bit of a competition
Italo from Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Oh okay, I was going to say which Canadian friend,
Because we've got way more thanone.
So okay, Yep From Quebec, Ibelieve.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yep, they bought the new Cyplus, the Cyplus pump that
you had.
There's a new and improvedversion that is about 50% of the
size that yours is.
Now that could have pros andcons.
I mean the con is yours fits ina water bottle and and and the
con I mean the pro would be isif you're looking for something
smaller.
But he sent us a video and theywere using it and he had a

(01:23:01):
cycling metal leisure Jersey onwhen they were using it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
So I just want to see that.
I haven't seen that one yet,but, um, they had the littler
ones when I bought that one butI got very concerned that it was
a lot smaller and I wasconcerned with the amount of
power and stuff.
But I'm glad to see somebody'sdone that and it'll be
interesting to see how he likesit.
So that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Perfect, perfect.
Well, on that note, thank youall.
Appreciate your continuedlistenership.
Our downloads are increasingand it's because of all of you,
so thank you so much.
Um, if you want to see some ofthe fun graphics, watch us on
YouTube.
But got a, got a new toy forthe, for the show and uh

(01:23:39):
teaching myself some pretty coolstuff.
So, uh, on that note, anythingelse, sir, I want to give you
your last minute here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
You know what?
Today was a great day for abike ride.
It was indeed.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Thank you for coming along with Adam and Michael on
Road Adventures with Cycling Menof Leisure.
If you have enjoyed this,please subscribe to the show on
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