June 3, 2025 • 34 mins
What happens when spiritual warfare enters our daily lives and we don't even recognize it? Former Air Force special operations intelligence officer Sam Sterett pulls back the curtain on the unseen battles affecting men, marriages, and families in this eye-opening conversation.
"Nine times out of ten, most men don't realize they're exactly where the devil wants them to be," Sterett reveals, speaking from years of military experience and spiritual growth. His insights expose how pornography, thrill-seeking, and even the constant distraction of digital devices create entry points for spiritual attacks that slowly erode our relationships with God and family.
The discussion takes an unexpected turn when the guests examine how modern technology has compromised our spiritual disciplines, such as our cell phones and the access they can provide to allow things in that are not holy. This conversation doesn't shy away from practical realities: how military culture often sidelines faith, how PTSD requires both professional and spiritual healing approaches, and why the simplest prayer—"Jesus help me"—might be the most powerful one you can pray.
What truly sets this episode apart is its practical roadmap for spiritual growth: dive into Scripture daily, find a truth-speaking church community, and commit to a small group where authentic relationships flourish. For veterans struggling with faith questions or anyone battling unseen forces in their daily life, Stewart offers this challenge: "Are we getting closer to God or further away? What are we worshiping?"
Ready to recognize the battlefield of your mind and develop spiritual disciplines that actually work? This conversation provides both the wake-up call and the hope you've been searching for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Road to Redemption, a show sharing
powerful life testimonies,giving hope to those on their
own road to redemption.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right.
Well, welcome to Road toRedemption.
I'm John Martin, your host, andexcited to be here on this
beautiful sunny day in MiramarBeach, florida, in the Florida
Panhandle, and I'm joined by myfriends Kyle Kyle Hart good
friend and Sam Stewart Sam, didI get your name right?
(00:30):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Okay, I appreciate it .
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, good to have you all in and, kyle, we had you
in recently with justincredible testimony, very
God-aligned thing that we gotyou in that day, and I'd ask if
any of y'all didn't get to hearthat, go listen to the story
from Kyle Hart.
But, kyle, you wanted us tomeet your friend Sam today.
(00:53):
Tell us a little bit about howthis came about.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I met Sam through his father-in-law.
We were doing a round table ofIssachar and Sam had joined us
years back now, maybe five orsix years and I got to know Sam
through that.
But then there was anothermen's gathering that would meet
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at my office and Sam would joinus for that and I just got to
learn about him and the depth ofhis relationship with God and
how he chases and pursues theLord in a deep and intimate way.
That's different than my own.
But at the same time the Lordshows him things that I've been
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seeing too.
The Lord shows him things thatI've been seeing too.
A word will get affirmed bysomeone else.
So you think you're hearingfrom God and then suddenly
you're talking to someone whohas no way of knowing what
you've been hearing and yetthey're saying back the same
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things that God's been tellingyou, he's been telling them, and
the two of you becomeencouraged and it just kind of
leads you forward and furtherinto Christ and more of Christ
Jesus into you.
And that's kind of just what'shappened in a nutshell over the
last.
This is 25, I think I mentioned19 or 18, maybe even before
that I don't even know if I hadmy daughter.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
She was born in 17.
Yeah, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Somewhere back there it's a little fuzzy oh no.
Okay, it was 19 for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, Sam, give us just a brief background on you,
who you are, where you're from,how you got here.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, so from the area.
So grew up here in northwestFlorida Farm boy.
Right, didn't grow up in thelittle city, so from there was,
you know, typical middle classand then went off to college and
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then, you know, bummed aroundon some jobs, whatnot.
You know, grew up in a familyof six, so was the only boy and
was raised in a Christianhousehold, right?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Catholic.
No more just like SouthernBaptist.
I just said that because mostpeople have six kids are
Catholic.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's why no, but I'm one of those that I have six
kids and I'm not Catholic.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, grew up in that and
learned a lot about God throughmy dad and what he taught me and
my mom, like you know, greatfamily unit there.
And then, from there, you know,graduated college, you know,
cause that's what everyone'ssupposed to do, right.
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And then, uh, from there was inthe private sector, like you
know, civilian world, for alittle bit, and then, um, let's
see, I'm trying to think back,cause it's, you know, 10 years.
I just celebrated my 10-yearanniversary with my wife, got
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married to her back in, wow, 14.
And then after that, basicallyit was the Lord was calling me
to go serve in the forces, armedforces.
So did the military thing.
Served in there from 2016 to2022, and here we are in 2025.
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So still married, you know,thank God for that.
And then have four childrenthrough that marriage and then
just trying to navigate each day, you know, like guys like Kyle.
And then we've also got a goodfriend of ours, dan, like you
know, iron, sharpening iron.
You know, men in my life tryingto navigate what's the rest of
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my, my life and time here onearth look like, and raising the
family and all those, all thesedynamics right, going on,
especially right now.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So, talk to us a little bit about the Holy spirit
and what was prompting you tocome in and share today.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So Kyle and I, we we talk a lot.
We made a lot during, we triedto during the week, um, you know
we have a group text, uh, youknow, and, and Kyle and I, we we
try and we usually go for a runwhen we can and just share
what's going on.
Um, but Kyle told me about himcoming down here and I was like,
(05:39):
hey, man, like, uh, you know,if, if you think it's a, you
know, let's pray about it andsee what God says, or if the
opportunity presents.
And so you know, here we are,yeah, so it's, um, yeah, Happy
to be here and especially justtalk about what's God doing in
our lives day to day what youknow what, what's moving, what
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is it?
You know his kingdom coming.
You know keeping the.
What is it you know his kingdomcoming?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
you know, keeping the , the devil at bay, being aware
of all that stuff going on rightnow yeah, before we got in here
, drew was talking about justkind of seeing an uptick in an
intensity, and I'll call itspiritual warfare.
For me, everything's spiritualand a lot of like oh, there's
spiritual and there's natural.
Well, I found that the furtherI go with God, it seems to be
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coming all spiritual.
I don't know that he had adivide, I mean, you got anyhow,
you got heaven, the earth andeverything in between.
It's all his and he's involvedin it and there's a real devil
and there's real, real angelsand there's us and our free will
.
And I feel like Sam in his lifeis seeing an uptick in things
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that have been going on and itrelates to what Drew was talking
about.
Everybody's experiencing it.
They don't just they may notnecessarily know what it is, and
Sam's got a unique perspectivein where he's been and where
he's been, just things he'sseeing in his community and kind
of relating to men.
And they don't realize thatsome of what they're going
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through isn't just their ownflaws and errors, but it's a
real attack from a real enemy.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And they go about their day innocuously, not even
trying to fend off that attack,because nobody's told them how.
What advice do you have forfolks that are going through
these spiritual battles, maybein their marriage or their work,
or with their kids, or withaddictions?
What advice do you have forthem?
What can you share?
You have for them, what can youshare?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, first of all, if you don't have a relationship
with Jesus Christ, you need tofind some men in your life to go
talk to about that and resolvethat relationship.
If it doesn't exist, obviouslythe next point or step would be
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pray.
You know the Lord talks aboutpraying without ceasing.
I think that is an untapped uhaspect that a lot of men in our,
in our current time, um and I,and I'll give, I'll give an
example.
You know, being in the military, you know, and I'm going to say
I think a lot of guys you knowthey tie their associations with
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you know, special operations,things like that.
I was an Air Force specialoperations intel guy.
You know I've seen some things,been some places right, I had a
unique background, verythankful for it, but it's always
interesting, you know, in thenatural it's well, hey, man,
(08:53):
let's let's pray, let's praybefore we, we got this, you know
, this mission or whatever, andsome guys just you know that,
dude, that doesn't matter.
Let's blow that off at this.
What are you talking about?
Like no man, like so,regardless of you know when I
was in before every you knowmission or flight or whatever I
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I would pray hands.
You know always whether thegroup was in it or not.
Um, but to that point, toencourage you know other men on
you need to be thinking about.
You know challenges you'regoing through things that you're
experiencing, the decisionsthat you make day in, day out.
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Are you falling into the trapthat the devil wants you to be
in?
Are you falling into the trapthat the devil wants you to be
in?
And nine times out of ten, mostmen don't realize they're
exactly where the devil wantsthem to be.
And those are conversations eventwo or three days ago, I was
talking with a gentleman at workand it's like man, do you
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believe the devil exists?
And he's like well, yeah, I'mlike man, are you, do you
believe the devil exists?
And he's like, well, yeah, I'mlike, okay, what about God?
You know, and it was one ofthose conversations of, well, I
don't know, I don't believe inGod, but you believe in the
devil.
Okay, let's talk about that.
So we broke through some ofthose pieces, but it's like
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common in our culture today,especially in strong marriage
units the pornography issue ofcurrent time.
Right, you're doing exactlywhat the devil wants you to do.
Do you not realize that?
And some, you know, I get it.
You're in the flesh, you knowwhatever.
(10:48):
But if you're going to look atthis from a strategic,
operational tactical level, ifwe're men following God and
called to his purposes Strategic, operational tactical level If
we're men following God andcalled to his purposes we need
to be cognizant of what is thedevil trying to get us to do
every day.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And some men I meet they don't even know the
difference.
So that would be it.
Yeah, and it's letting thatdarkness in in.
I mean, it might seem kind ofinnocent in the beginning.
You see something um it'severywhere like you can't scroll
through any social media oranything without seeing that, um
, and it's a subtle deception,uh, that that men and even women
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now get sucked into and you'reletting that darkness in.
So how do people get set freeof that?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You've given the access and authority to the
enemy and so then you've got torenounce it.
So it starts through repentanceFor other men to what Sam's
saying.
It's coming alongside otherswho will walk that out with you,
whether it's your spousehopefully it's your spouse in
large part, if not entirely andthen it's men who have either
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walked through it or want towalk out of there with you.
I know in my own life andthings that men like sam come.
There's this battle buddymentality where you just grab
them and go.
You're going to lean on eachother.
But, it's even stronger when inbetween you two is God, and that
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starts with prayer.
A couple of people who Ithought were prayer warriors in
the last couple of weeks bothcame to me and said I don't pray
enough.
And these were men who are deepin faith.
One of them, sam'sfather-in-law, who's been a
mentor in my life, a spiritualuncle to me, had said I don't
pray enough and I was likeyou're not praying enough, but
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we don't take it for what it'sworth.
We don't even start our daywith it.
We're like, hey, I'll get toyou, god, when I get to you,
instead of realizing with praiseand worship now I can come into
the presence.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You can't even come into the presence unless you're
starting in a place of praiseand worship.
I think one of the biggestbattles that we have are these
phones, because when we wake upin the morning, yeah they start
speaking to us immediately withall our tasks and our and even,
like for me, I I read the Bibleapps and stuff on the phone and
I've often thought I need tojust stop that, because just by
having that open, you're gettingbombarded by other things.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
John, I was in my house this weekend and I'm
talking to the Lord, and Sam wastelling me a story from Sunday.
It sounded similar before wegot in here and I said, lord,
why does the enemy have accessin here right now?
Because I'll take stuff andI'll take it out.
Whatever If it's in me, let'sget it out.
If it's literally in the house,something I've come into
agreement with, I'll pick it upand throw it in the trash.
I'll take it down to thedumpster, wherever it's got to
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go.
I was sitting there, the enemyaccess.
I put my phone down and then Ilooked at it and he said that
and I was to your same point,though I was like but, lord, I
use it for the bible app.
Yeah, I'm on youtube watchingthese videos that are about
people praising you, drawing mecloser to you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
it says distraction, guile, distraction I often say
that like what, what?
What's answer?
I mean I don't know some recentreason.
Lately I've been coming acrossAmish people and thinking like
gosh, do I just need to be?
Amish, you know, I would never,I always, will have Jesus as my
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Lord and I'm not, you know, andI don't really even know much
about what they believe, but Ikind of admire their culture of
they've not.
There's a purity and simplicity, yeah, yeah, and it's like
closer to the father, um.
But so getting back to this youknow thing of just the men
being with these distractions ofpornography and all these
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things, is well it's more thanthat for you.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
There's probably power advancing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It is I, I think so you got to see it from like.
And you know the the devil isgoing to use anything he can
against the, the man in thefamily unit, to to break it up
right.
So the man's the first one inthat line of defense.
And if he completely you knowthe devil's successful in
eroding the relationship betweenthe husband and wife, then
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what's the next target?
The children.
And then the family unit justcompletely breaks apart.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And it's a generational attack to go after
the children.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Right, but it's not just the pornography thing, it's
whatever vice you can think of.
Right, I can't think of anexample right now.
Thrill-seeking, yeah,thrill-seeking.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Deployment can become an addiction.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Volunteering, yeah, especially in the military realm
.
But I mean, at the same time,you know that's part of the job,
it's part of the job.
It's part of the job, but in thesense of you know where your
thought process is.
Yeah, you need, you know theman needs to be cognizant of.
Is this of God or is this ofthe devil?
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The more and more conversationsI have, it's you know, what are
we doing day in and day out?
Are we really seeking out whatGod wants or are we just doing
what we want?
And then, at that point, isthat the sphere of the devil's
influence?
And I think we're in a time nowwhere we're so distracted and,
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you know, confused it's the onlything left.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Is you just you got to get in that word over there,
you know, in the, in thephysical pages, and start just
soaking that up like you can Ijust was thinking about your
background in the military andwe have a lot of military or
former military vets in thisarea, northwest Florida, because
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of the bases and is that one ofyour passions is to reach out
to those men and try to ministerto them?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh, for sure, that's what I'm feeling, yeah, and I
mean, you know, warranted.
I mean between all the other,you know, job relationships,
making sure family unit's doingwell.
Is the wife good?
Are my children good?
You know, hey, how's you knowhow are my friends doing?
Yeah, absolutely, you know, hey, how's.
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How's you know how my friend'sdoing?
Um, yeah, absolutely.
I mean this this little.
I've heard it stated before.
You know, our little pockethere in the united states,
northwest florida, is a veryspecial place and, um, I'm
incredibly thankful for thedensity of veterans and all
those men and women that served.
But at the same time, you knowit's I'll go against the grain
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here.
It's like what are we doing asa people, as a nation?
Right, are we leading?
Are we leading the nation?
Are we driving the example tohey?
Are we getting closer to God orare we getting further away?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Right.
What are we worshiping?
What are we as a nation, asthose who are defending the
nation?
What are we worshiping?
Are we going to startworshiping this job or are we
worshiping?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
the flag Are we?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
worshiping in God, we trust.
What are we worshiping?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah Well, anyone that's listening today, that's
military or former military.
What are you saying to themtoday?
It's kind of like I don't knowabout this whole God thing.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, what are you saying tothose folks?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean, what are you saying to those folks If that
question's in your mind andyou're along that mindset?
Those thoughts like does Godexist?
What is this whole Christianitything?
Is the Bible true?
Because that's the big issueright now, I think, amongst the
entire country and our cultureis we're trying to figure out
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this truth piece and it's rightthere in that Bible.
Right, and I'll be offensive onthat term as I can.
I know that's not culturallyaccepted, but I'm over that.
But it's you need to realhonestly cause most guys I run
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into you know I'm like hey man,um, we've all faced an enemy.
You know, in the natural right,you know conflict, whatever.
Like you know we go to places.
You got to watch out for badguys, that kind of stuff, right.
But in the spiritual realm, youknow your family unit, your day
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in and day out life.
Are you realizing that?
Well, if you're going tocontinue down this path of well,
I'm not sure about God or theBible or any of that stuff, I
think you're falling intoexactly where, like I said
before, the devil wants you tobe and it's like do you want to
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do what the devil wants you todo?
And some guys they're like yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Cool man.
I mean, let me know how thatgoes, Because his objectives are
to completely destroy you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, period, and then your life ends, you know
with Christ, yeah.
And then your life ends, youknow, with Christ you have a
life eternally and spiritualbodies which are always healthy
and live forever, and that'swhat we all, we all want,
because this life's so short,it's over in a second, and so we
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want, we want our brothers andsisters in Christ to have that
freedom here on earth, buteternal life forever.
So how do you speak to thosefolks in the military and also
with?
I know a lot have talked abouthaving PTSD from the deployments
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.
Have you seen anyone healed ofthat?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yes and no.
You know I encourage there'sobviously a lot of venues for
help, right, big federalprograms, the VA and everything
like that but honestly I wouldencourage them to find a group
of men that can sharpen you andhelp you.
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Like I don't know, I've alwaysbeen the more small team,
intimate type, like I just needthree or four other dudes in my
life and I'm good.
You know, I'm thankful for Kyleand a couple other guys, you
know sort of that ironing,sharpening iron, but I'd say
prayer, get in the word, don'tlet the devil win, and take it
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seriously.
It's not a joke here we'retalking about, you know, not
just your life if you're married, your wives, your children,
your grandchildren because Ithink right now we're so, you
know, going back to like yourcomment on the phone, like we're
being trained to think so shortterm and like kiddie video.
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Kiddie video.
Hey, I'm getting dumbed downand that may be kind of funny,
but there's actually, I think,and that may be kind of funny,
but there's actually, I think, agrander evil scheme at play
where you've got to be aware ofthose things.
And the word says to praywithout ceasing and don't
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discount that.
Sometimes it's like God, what'sgoing on, nothing's working,
and sometimes that you know, andsometimes that's right where he
wants you to be.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, and I know folks can be healed of PTSD.
Uh, and then you know peoplecan get that, not just obviously
in military, Um, but it mighttake time, you know, of really
letting God heal you over time.
I mean, it could happeninstantly.
God can do anything, but I justthink that and I think things
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like therapists and, you know,counseling definitely can help
too.
But I really feel like that iffolks that have had that they
would come into a relationshipwith God and just let him start
working and working throughsmall groups, and that people
can be healed of that.
And so we just encourage anyonelistening.
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Like we say, on Road toRedemption, there's three main
pillars of what we encourage youto do.
And there's three main pillarsof what we encourage you to do.
It's first to start reading theWord of God.
You know, just pick up theBible now and start reading it,
whether it's your written Bibleor paperback Bible, or just get
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the Bible out.
Start reading the Word of God.
We promise He'll speak to you.
And then the second thing is toget into a Christ-centered
church.
Just go.
Don't try to think you're goingto find the perfect one,
because it doesn't exist.
Just go to a Christ-centeredchurch and just start going.
Just take that step.
And then the last is to getinto a group, like y'all talking
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about your group in a church.
Get into a group of men or ifyou're a couple, maybe married,
whatever, but a group where youcan make yourself vulnerable and
see true healing in that group.
Well, talk to us a little bit,sam, about how would someone
find it.
Well, talk to us a little bit,sam, about how would someone
find if someone's like, say, amilitary person, how do they
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find these groups?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Talk to us a little bit about your group and what
y'all do.
Well, I'd say it was divine.
I mean, the way I've met Kyleand all the other men in my life
.
It's just God's timing Perfectrelationships that have been
developed.
But, like you mentioned aboutyour pillars, if you're not
involved in some sort of churchcapacity, that's a good place to
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start, because I guarantee youyou go to a church.
You're going to find some otherdudes that are of the same
mindset.
You know that's the beautifulthing about where we live in
this country is you can still goto a church and do that kind of
stuff, right, but start there.
You know, I don't know, I guessI'm kind of old school, like I
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don't do much, much like socialmedia and stuff on the phone.
Um, you know I'm more of aface-to-face like this, right,
yeah, you know get back to likereal conversations, meeting with
like men like kyle and thoseother guys once a week when I
can, right, I knowresponsibilities take over that,
but you gotta look for it,don't just, you know, second or
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third time doesn't work out.
And then, honestly, at work, Ithink, especially in the
military realm, um, so many Ithink there's, there's two there
, you know, conversation of, youknow, christianity, the bible,
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in the, the workplace is so like, oh, we can't talk about that.
Wait, we don't want to be.
You know, is that offensive?
I don't know, is it?
No, just talk.
You know, and I've, I've hadsome.
Really there's a lot of thirstfor those conversations.
Yeah, the more and more I, Iwalk around and I and I talked
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to you know, individuals or thehallway or whatever, um, you
know, so just speak it.
Say, hey, you know, say, howdid people in the hallway, I
don't know, you know, on yourteam, like, anyway, that's more
bold, sir.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Be bold to share.
I think, yeah, you know withpeople, and even you know cause
it's.
It's interesting how, in theworkplace, you can talk about
everything else but the Bible,jesus, oh yeah, anything else is
okay, but the name of Jesus,the word of Jesus, is offensive,
because it's the truth.
Yeah, and I would say too,folks, when you're seeking out a
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church of course, dessieWorship Center is a great church
across northwest Florida, thereare a lot of great churches
Make sure, though, that you goto a church that's going to
speak the truth, the word of God, and is not giving you just a
feel good, everything's great,just you know, watering down the
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truth to try to get people tocome.
I think that's very important togo to a Bible centered church
that speaks the truth anddoesn't compromise the
uncompromising truth of thegospel and is willing to do that
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, and if people don't like itand they leave, then they're
fine, because this is what thebook says.
So that's important.
Well, guys, is there anythingelse, as we're coming to the end
, that you'd want to share?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I just wanted to talk about prayer, and it starts by
just speaking to God and beinghonest.
He already knows what's in yoursoul.
He knows those hurts and thosepains.
He knows the things you've beenthrough, where you've been.
He knows the things you'retrying to get over.
He knows the things you'retrying to achieve and if you
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would just start talking to him,you'd be surprised when God
answers and how he answers.
No matter where you're at, nomatter where you've made your
bed, what you've come intoagreement with, no matter how
deep, how dark or no matter howperfect you think it is.
If you ask him to show up,god's got a funny way of showing
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up.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But Kyle, a lot of people might be asking, but I
don't know how to pray.
How do you tell them?
How do they go about doing that?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
And it starts with the same way you'd have a
conversation with anyone.
You invite Jesus Christ intoyour heart and you ask him and
you say, lord, I want to know.
You Make yourself real to meand wait, and that voice you
hear more than likely is goingto be him.
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And how do you end up knowingthe truth?
We keep talking about the truth.
The truth is the Word of Godand it's been said here already
multiple times.
But to know the truth is to getin it.
You have to be in the Word.
And the more that you digest theWord by reading it, consuming
it, being mindful of it,meditating on it, never letting
it leave your lips and pursuingit with a hunger that is
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everlasting, because he'llpursue you with that same kind
of everlasting love You'll findthat everything that you've been
doing to try and get life, totry and get energy, was
meaningless if it didn't involvehim, because it was fleeting,
it wasn't eternal.
It's all about Jesus Christ.
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It starts there.
If you believe in Jesus, accepthim into your heart, he will
come in.
And then from there, the HolySpirit will come, your counselor
, your comforter, and you beginto develop your relationship.
The Holy Spirit will come, yourcounselor, your comforter, and
you begin to develop yourrelationship with the Holy
Spirit.
And by faith in Jesus andinfilling the Holy Spirit,
you'll encounter the true livingGod, the Father, and have a
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relationship with him thatencumbers and entails and
involves the power of God, andthere's nothing quite like his
power and his presence in yourlife encumbers and entails and
involves the power of God, andthere's nothing quite like his
power and his presence in yourlife, because when we pray the
Lord's Prayer, that will be doneon earth as it is in heaven.
That's the Father's majesty,his power, his glory coming into
the earth and into your life,and it starts by faith in Jesus.
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Just talk to him.
My favorite prayer was Jesushelp me.
And it starts by faith in Jesus.
Just talk to him.
It doesn't have.
My favorite prayer was Jesushelp me, and he showed up right
away and I had nothing left tosay Jesus, help me.
And it worked.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, just call out to him.
It's just call out to Jesus and, like you said, you don't even
have to say that much, and thenjust sit back and listen.
You know, it might be 5-10minutes, you might have to sit
there a little while, but you'llstart hearing, you know from
the Holy Spirit or seeing yeah,and just you know it's.
It's a simple faith.
We have a simple faith.
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It's not complicated.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
The world makes it complicated yes, well, we think,
we know yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's a battlefield of the mind, as the author Joyce
Meyer wrote about, and that'swhat we're in every day.
It's a battlefield in our mindand we have to go to the Word of
God, the simple truth, toconquer, to overcome those
battles, because they're goingto come.
I mean, we can't be in thisworld and not have the
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battlefield of the mind.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Right, against yourself, against a real enemy,
against others trying tonavigate this life.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah.
So every one of you are goingto come against it, but you've
got to have Jesus in your life.
You've got to have Jesus,you've got to have the Word of
God and you need to have theHoly Spirit.
You've got to have the Word ofGod and you need to have the
Holy Spirit.
And everybody's in differentplaces in their walk.
But we just encourage you to dothose three things to get in
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the Word of God, get into aChrist-centered church and get
into a group.
The group is very important.
Don't forget that part, becauseoften churches are larger and
you can't really go deep withpeople in a church.
You go deep in the group andwell, this has been great guys.
Wow, I'm so glad we did this.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, thanks for having us, John.
Yeah, Kyle, Sam, thank you forcoming on and till next time.
Till next time, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right.
Well, welcome to Road toRedemption.
I'm John Martin, your host, andexcited to be here on this
beautiful sunny day in MiramarBeach, florida, in the Florida
Panhandle, and I'm joined by myfriends Kyle Kyle Hart good
friend and Sam Stewart Sam, didI get your name right?
(00:30):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Okay, I appreciate it .
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, good to have you all in and, kyle, we had you
in recently with justincredible testimony, very
God-aligned thing that we gotyou in that day, and I'd ask if
any of y'all didn't get to hearthat, go listen to the story
from Kyle Hart.
But, kyle, you wanted us tomeet your friend Sam today.
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Tell us a little bit about howthis came about.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I met Sam through his father-in-law.
We were doing a round table ofIssachar and Sam had joined us
years back now, maybe five orsix years and I got to know Sam
through that.
But then there was anothermen's gathering that would meet
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at my office and Sam would joinus for that and I just got to
learn about him and the depth ofhis relationship with God and
how he chases and pursues theLord in a deep and intimate way.
That's different than my own.
But at the same time the Lordshows him things that I've been
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seeing too.
The Lord shows him things thatI've been seeing too.
A word will get affirmed bysomeone else.
So you think you're hearingfrom God and then suddenly
you're talking to someone whohas no way of knowing what
you've been hearing and yetthey're saying back the same
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things that God's been tellingyou, he's been telling them, and
the two of you becomeencouraged and it just kind of
leads you forward and furtherinto Christ and more of Christ
Jesus into you.
And that's kind of just what'shappened in a nutshell over the
last.
This is 25, I think I mentioned19 or 18, maybe even before
that I don't even know if I hadmy daughter.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
She was born in 17.
Yeah, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Somewhere back there it's a little fuzzy oh no.
Okay, it was 19 for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, Sam, give us just a brief background on you,
who you are, where you're from,how you got here.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, so from the area.
So grew up here in northwestFlorida Farm boy.
Right, didn't grow up in thelittle city, so from there was,
you know, typical middle classand then went off to college and
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then, you know, bummed aroundon some jobs, whatnot.
You know, grew up in a familyof six, so was the only boy and
was raised in a Christianhousehold, right?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Catholic.
No more just like SouthernBaptist.
I just said that because mostpeople have six kids are
Catholic.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's why no, but I'm one of those that I have six
kids and I'm not Catholic.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, grew up in that and
learned a lot about God throughmy dad and what he taught me and
my mom, like you know, greatfamily unit there.
And then, from there, you know,graduated college, you know,
cause that's what everyone'ssupposed to do, right.
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And then, uh, from there was inthe private sector, like you
know, civilian world, for alittle bit, and then, um, let's
see, I'm trying to think back,cause it's, you know, 10 years.
I just celebrated my 10-yearanniversary with my wife, got
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married to her back in, wow, 14.
And then after that, basicallyit was the Lord was calling me
to go serve in the forces, armedforces.
So did the military thing.
Served in there from 2016 to2022, and here we are in 2025.
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So still married, you know,thank God for that.
And then have four childrenthrough that marriage and then
just trying to navigate each day, you know, like guys like Kyle.
And then we've also got a goodfriend of ours, dan, like you
know, iron, sharpening iron.
You know, men in my life tryingto navigate what's the rest of
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my, my life and time here onearth look like, and raising the
family and all those, all thesedynamics right, going on,
especially right now.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So, talk to us a little bit about the Holy spirit
and what was prompting you tocome in and share today.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So Kyle and I, we we talk a lot.
We made a lot during, we triedto during the week, um, you know
we have a group text, uh, youknow, and, and Kyle and I, we we
try and we usually go for a runwhen we can and just share
what's going on.
Um, but Kyle told me about himcoming down here and I was like,
(05:39):
hey, man, like, uh, you know,if, if you think it's a, you
know, let's pray about it andsee what God says, or if the
opportunity presents.
And so you know, here we are,yeah, so it's, um, yeah, Happy
to be here and especially justtalk about what's God doing in
our lives day to day what youknow what, what's moving, what
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is it?
You know his kingdom coming.
You know keeping the.
What is it you know his kingdomcoming?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
you know, keeping the , the devil at bay, being aware
of all that stuff going on rightnow yeah, before we got in here
, drew was talking about justkind of seeing an uptick in an
intensity, and I'll call itspiritual warfare.
For me, everything's spiritualand a lot of like oh, there's
spiritual and there's natural.
Well, I found that the furtherI go with God, it seems to be
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coming all spiritual.
I don't know that he had adivide, I mean, you got anyhow,
you got heaven, the earth andeverything in between.
It's all his and he's involvedin it and there's a real devil
and there's real, real angelsand there's us and our free will
.
And I feel like Sam in his lifeis seeing an uptick in things
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that have been going on and itrelates to what Drew was talking
about.
Everybody's experiencing it.
They don't just they may notnecessarily know what it is, and
Sam's got a unique perspectivein where he's been and where
he's been, just things he'sseeing in his community and kind
of relating to men.
And they don't realize thatsome of what they're going
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through isn't just their ownflaws and errors, but it's a
real attack from a real enemy.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And they go about their day innocuously, not even
trying to fend off that attack,because nobody's told them how.
What advice do you have forfolks that are going through
these spiritual battles, maybein their marriage or their work,
or with their kids, or withaddictions?
What advice do you have forthem?
What can you share?
You have for them, what can youshare?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, first of all, if you don't have a relationship
with Jesus Christ, you need tofind some men in your life to go
talk to about that and resolvethat relationship.
If it doesn't exist, obviouslythe next point or step would be
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pray.
You know the Lord talks aboutpraying without ceasing.
I think that is an untapped uhaspect that a lot of men in our,
in our current time, um and I,and I'll give, I'll give an
example.
You know, being in the military, you know, and I'm going to say
I think a lot of guys you knowthey tie their associations with
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you know, special operations,things like that.
I was an Air Force specialoperations intel guy.
You know I've seen some things,been some places right, I had a
unique background, verythankful for it, but it's always
interesting, you know, in thenatural it's well, hey, man,
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let's let's pray, let's praybefore we, we got this, you know
, this mission or whatever, andsome guys just you know that,
dude, that doesn't matter.
Let's blow that off at this.
What are you talking about?
Like no man, like so,regardless of you know when I
was in before every you knowmission or flight or whatever I
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I would pray hands.
You know always whether thegroup was in it or not.
Um, but to that point, toencourage you know other men on
you need to be thinking about.
You know challenges you'regoing through things that you're
experiencing, the decisionsthat you make day in, day out.
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Are you falling into the trapthat the devil wants you to be
in?
Are you falling into the trapthat the devil wants you to be
in?
And nine times out of ten, mostmen don't realize they're
exactly where the devil wantsthem to be.
And those are conversations eventwo or three days ago, I was
talking with a gentleman at workand it's like man, do you
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believe the devil exists?
And he's like well, yeah, I'mlike man, are you, do you
believe the devil exists?
And he's like, well, yeah, I'mlike, okay, what about God?
You know, and it was one ofthose conversations of, well, I
don't know, I don't believe inGod, but you believe in the
devil.
Okay, let's talk about that.
So we broke through some ofthose pieces, but it's like
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common in our culture today,especially in strong marriage
units the pornography issue ofcurrent time.
Right, you're doing exactlywhat the devil wants you to do.
Do you not realize that?
And some, you know, I get it.
You're in the flesh, you knowwhatever.
(10:48):
But if you're going to look atthis from a strategic,
operational tactical level, ifwe're men following God and
called to his purposes Strategic, operational tactical level If
we're men following God andcalled to his purposes we need
to be cognizant of what is thedevil trying to get us to do
every day.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And some men I meet they don't even know the
difference.
So that would be it.
Yeah, and it's letting thatdarkness in in.
I mean, it might seem kind ofinnocent in the beginning.
You see something um it'severywhere like you can't scroll
through any social media oranything without seeing that, um
, and it's a subtle deception,uh, that that men and even women
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now get sucked into and you'reletting that darkness in.
So how do people get set freeof that?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You've given the access and authority to the
enemy and so then you've got torenounce it.
So it starts through repentanceFor other men to what Sam's
saying.
It's coming alongside otherswho will walk that out with you,
whether it's your spousehopefully it's your spouse in
large part, if not entirely andthen it's men who have either
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walked through it or want towalk out of there with you.
I know in my own life andthings that men like sam come.
There's this battle buddymentality where you just grab
them and go.
You're going to lean on eachother.
But, it's even stronger when inbetween you two is God, and that
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starts with prayer.
A couple of people who Ithought were prayer warriors in
the last couple of weeks bothcame to me and said I don't pray
enough.
And these were men who are deepin faith.
One of them, sam'sfather-in-law, who's been a
mentor in my life, a spiritualuncle to me, had said I don't
pray enough and I was likeyou're not praying enough, but
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we don't take it for what it'sworth.
We don't even start our daywith it.
We're like, hey, I'll get toyou, god, when I get to you,
instead of realizing with praiseand worship now I can come into
the presence.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You can't even come into the presence unless you're
starting in a place of praiseand worship.
I think one of the biggestbattles that we have are these
phones, because when we wake upin the morning, yeah they start
speaking to us immediately withall our tasks and our and even,
like for me, I I read the Bibleapps and stuff on the phone and
I've often thought I need tojust stop that, because just by
having that open, you're gettingbombarded by other things.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
John, I was in my house this weekend and I'm
talking to the Lord, and Sam wastelling me a story from Sunday.
It sounded similar before wegot in here and I said, lord,
why does the enemy have accessin here right now?
Because I'll take stuff andI'll take it out.
Whatever If it's in me, let'sget it out.
If it's literally in the house,something I've come into
agreement with, I'll pick it upand throw it in the trash.
I'll take it down to thedumpster, wherever it's got to
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go.
I was sitting there, the enemyaccess.
I put my phone down and then Ilooked at it and he said that
and I was to your same point,though I was like but, lord, I
use it for the bible app.
Yeah, I'm on youtube watchingthese videos that are about
people praising you, drawing mecloser to you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
it says distraction, guile, distraction I often say
that like what, what?
What's answer?
I mean I don't know some recentreason.
Lately I've been coming acrossAmish people and thinking like
gosh, do I just need to be?
Amish, you know, I would never,I always, will have Jesus as my
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Lord and I'm not, you know, andI don't really even know much
about what they believe, but Ikind of admire their culture of
they've not.
There's a purity and simplicity, yeah, yeah, and it's like
closer to the father, um.
But so getting back to this youknow thing of just the men
being with these distractions ofpornography and all these
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things, is well it's more thanthat for you.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
There's probably power advancing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It is I, I think so you got to see it from like.
And you know the the devil isgoing to use anything he can
against the, the man in thefamily unit, to to break it up
right.
So the man's the first one inthat line of defense.
And if he completely you knowthe devil's successful in
eroding the relationship betweenthe husband and wife, then
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what's the next target?
The children.
And then the family unit justcompletely breaks apart.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And it's a generational attack to go after
the children.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Right, but it's not just the pornography thing, it's
whatever vice you can think of.
Right, I can't think of anexample right now.
Thrill-seeking, yeah,thrill-seeking.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Deployment can become an addiction.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Volunteering, yeah, especially in the military realm
.
But I mean, at the same time,you know that's part of the job,
it's part of the job.
It's part of the job, but in thesense of you know where your
thought process is.
Yeah, you need, you know theman needs to be cognizant of.
Is this of God or is this ofthe devil?
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The more and more conversationsI have, it's you know, what are
we doing day in and day out?
Are we really seeking out whatGod wants or are we just doing
what we want?
And then, at that point, isthat the sphere of the devil's
influence?
And I think we're in a time nowwhere we're so distracted and,
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you know, confused it's the onlything left.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Is you just you got to get in that word over there,
you know, in the, in thephysical pages, and start just
soaking that up like you can Ijust was thinking about your
background in the military andwe have a lot of military or
former military vets in thisarea, northwest Florida, because
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of the bases and is that one ofyour passions is to reach out
to those men and try to ministerto them?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh, for sure, that's what I'm feeling, yeah, and I
mean, you know, warranted.
I mean between all the other,you know, job relationships,
making sure family unit's doingwell.
Is the wife good?
Are my children good?
You know, hey, how's you knowhow are my friends doing?
Yeah, absolutely, you know, hey, how's.
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How's you know how my friend'sdoing?
Um, yeah, absolutely.
I mean this this little.
I've heard it stated before.
You know, our little pockethere in the united states,
northwest florida, is a veryspecial place and, um, I'm
incredibly thankful for thedensity of veterans and all
those men and women that served.
But at the same time, you knowit's I'll go against the grain
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here.
It's like what are we doing asa people, as a nation?
Right, are we leading?
Are we leading the nation?
Are we driving the example tohey?
Are we getting closer to God orare we getting further away?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Right.
What are we worshiping?
What are we as a nation, asthose who are defending the
nation?
What are we worshiping?
Are we going to startworshiping this job or are we
worshiping?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
the flag Are we?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
worshiping in God, we trust.
What are we worshiping?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah Well, anyone that's listening today, that's
military or former military.
What are you saying to themtoday?
It's kind of like I don't knowabout this whole God thing.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, what are you saying tothose folks?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean, what are you saying to those folks If that
question's in your mind andyou're along that mindset?
Those thoughts like does Godexist?
What is this whole Christianitything?
Is the Bible true?
Because that's the big issueright now, I think, amongst the
entire country and our cultureis we're trying to figure out
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this truth piece and it's rightthere in that Bible.
Right, and I'll be offensive onthat term as I can.
I know that's not culturallyaccepted, but I'm over that.
But it's you need to realhonestly cause most guys I run
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into you know I'm like hey man,um, we've all faced an enemy.
You know, in the natural right,you know conflict, whatever.
Like you know we go to places.
You got to watch out for badguys, that kind of stuff, right.
But in the spiritual realm, youknow your family unit, your day
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in and day out life.
Are you realizing that?
Well, if you're going tocontinue down this path of well,
I'm not sure about God or theBible or any of that stuff, I
think you're falling intoexactly where, like I said
before, the devil wants you tobe and it's like do you want to
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do what the devil wants you todo?
And some guys they're like yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Cool man.
I mean, let me know how thatgoes, Because his objectives are
to completely destroy you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, period, and then your life ends, you know
with Christ, yeah.
And then your life ends, youknow, with Christ you have a
life eternally and spiritualbodies which are always healthy
and live forever, and that'swhat we all, we all want,
because this life's so short,it's over in a second, and so we
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want, we want our brothers andsisters in Christ to have that
freedom here on earth, buteternal life forever.
So how do you speak to thosefolks in the military and also
with?
I know a lot have talked abouthaving PTSD from the deployments
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.
Have you seen anyone healed ofthat?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yes and no.
You know I encourage there'sobviously a lot of venues for
help, right, big federalprograms, the VA and everything
like that but honestly I wouldencourage them to find a group
of men that can sharpen you andhelp you.
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Like I don't know, I've alwaysbeen the more small team,
intimate type, like I just needthree or four other dudes in my
life and I'm good.
You know, I'm thankful for Kyleand a couple other guys, you
know sort of that ironing,sharpening iron, but I'd say
prayer, get in the word, don'tlet the devil win, and take it
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seriously.
It's not a joke here we'retalking about, you know, not
just your life if you're married, your wives, your children,
your grandchildren because Ithink right now we're so, you
know, going back to like yourcomment on the phone, like we're
being trained to think so shortterm and like kiddie video.
(22:34):
Kiddie video.
Hey, I'm getting dumbed downand that may be kind of funny,
but there's actually, I think,and that may be kind of funny,
but there's actually, I think, agrander evil scheme at play
where you've got to be aware ofthose things.
And the word says to praywithout ceasing and don't
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discount that.
Sometimes it's like God, what'sgoing on, nothing's working,
and sometimes that you know, andsometimes that's right where he
wants you to be.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, and I know folks can be healed of PTSD.
Uh, and then you know peoplecan get that, not just obviously
in military, Um, but it mighttake time, you know, of really
letting God heal you over time.
I mean, it could happeninstantly.
God can do anything, but I justthink that and I think things
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like therapists and, you know,counseling definitely can help
too.
But I really feel like that iffolks that have had that they
would come into a relationshipwith God and just let him start
working and working throughsmall groups, and that people
can be healed of that.
And so we just encourage anyonelistening.
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Like we say, on Road toRedemption, there's three main
pillars of what we encourage youto do.
And there's three main pillarsof what we encourage you to do.
It's first to start reading theWord of God.
You know, just pick up theBible now and start reading it,
whether it's your written Bibleor paperback Bible, or just get
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the Bible out.
Start reading the Word of God.
We promise He'll speak to you.
And then the second thing is toget into a Christ-centered
church.
Just go.
Don't try to think you're goingto find the perfect one,
because it doesn't exist.
Just go to a Christ-centeredchurch and just start going.
Just take that step.
And then the last is to getinto a group, like y'all talking
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about your group in a church.
Get into a group of men or ifyou're a couple, maybe married,
whatever, but a group where youcan make yourself vulnerable and
see true healing in that group.
Well, talk to us a little bit,sam, about how would someone
find it.
Well, talk to us a little bit,sam, about how would someone
find if someone's like, say, amilitary person, how do they
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find these groups?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Talk to us a little bit about your group and what
y'all do.
Well, I'd say it was divine.
I mean, the way I've met Kyleand all the other men in my life
.
It's just God's timing Perfectrelationships that have been
developed.
But, like you mentioned aboutyour pillars, if you're not
involved in some sort of churchcapacity, that's a good place to
(25:36):
start, because I guarantee youyou go to a church.
You're going to find some otherdudes that are of the same
mindset.
You know that's the beautifulthing about where we live in
this country is you can still goto a church and do that kind of
stuff, right, but start there.
You know, I don't know, I guessI'm kind of old school, like I
(26:00):
don't do much, much like socialmedia and stuff on the phone.
Um, you know I'm more of aface-to-face like this, right,
yeah, you know get back to likereal conversations, meeting with
like men like kyle and thoseother guys once a week when I
can, right, I knowresponsibilities take over that,
but you gotta look for it,don't just, you know, second or
(26:24):
third time doesn't work out.
And then, honestly, at work, Ithink, especially in the
military realm, um, so many Ithink there's, there's two there
, you know, conversation of, youknow, christianity, the bible,
(26:49):
in the, the workplace is so like, oh, we can't talk about that.
Wait, we don't want to be.
You know, is that offensive?
I don't know, is it?
No, just talk.
You know, and I've, I've hadsome.
Really there's a lot of thirstfor those conversations.
Yeah, the more and more I, Iwalk around and I and I talked
(27:11):
to you know, individuals or thehallway or whatever, um, you
know, so just speak it.
Say, hey, you know, say, howdid people in the hallway, I
don't know, you know, on yourteam, like, anyway, that's more
bold, sir.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Be bold to share.
I think, yeah, you know withpeople, and even you know cause
it's.
It's interesting how, in theworkplace, you can talk about
everything else but the Bible,jesus, oh yeah, anything else is
okay, but the name of Jesus,the word of Jesus, is offensive,
because it's the truth.
Yeah, and I would say too,folks, when you're seeking out a
(27:52):
church of course, dessieWorship Center is a great church
across northwest Florida, thereare a lot of great churches
Make sure, though, that you goto a church that's going to
speak the truth, the word of God, and is not giving you just a
feel good, everything's great,just you know, watering down the
(28:14):
truth to try to get people tocome.
I think that's very important togo to a Bible centered church
that speaks the truth anddoesn't compromise the
uncompromising truth of thegospel and is willing to do that
(28:35):
, and if people don't like itand they leave, then they're
fine, because this is what thebook says.
So that's important.
Well, guys, is there anythingelse, as we're coming to the end
, that you'd want to share?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I just wanted to talk about prayer, and it starts by
just speaking to God and beinghonest.
He already knows what's in yoursoul.
He knows those hurts and thosepains.
He knows the things you've beenthrough, where you've been.
He knows the things you'retrying to get over.
He knows the things you'retrying to achieve and if you
(29:11):
would just start talking to him,you'd be surprised when God
answers and how he answers.
No matter where you're at, nomatter where you've made your
bed, what you've come intoagreement with, no matter how
deep, how dark or no matter howperfect you think it is.
If you ask him to show up,god's got a funny way of showing
(29:32):
up.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But Kyle, a lot of people might be asking, but I
don't know how to pray.
How do you tell them?
How do they go about doing that?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
And it starts with the same way you'd have a
conversation with anyone.
You invite Jesus Christ intoyour heart and you ask him and
you say, lord, I want to know.
You Make yourself real to meand wait, and that voice you
hear more than likely is goingto be him.
(30:03):
And how do you end up knowingthe truth?
We keep talking about the truth.
The truth is the Word of Godand it's been said here already
multiple times.
But to know the truth is to getin it.
You have to be in the Word.
And the more that you digest theWord by reading it, consuming
it, being mindful of it,meditating on it, never letting
it leave your lips and pursuingit with a hunger that is
(30:29):
everlasting, because he'llpursue you with that same kind
of everlasting love You'll findthat everything that you've been
doing to try and get life, totry and get energy, was
meaningless if it didn't involvehim, because it was fleeting,
it wasn't eternal.
It's all about Jesus Christ.
(30:53):
It starts there.
If you believe in Jesus, accepthim into your heart, he will
come in.
And then from there, the HolySpirit will come, your counselor
, your comforter, and you beginto develop your relationship.
The Holy Spirit will come, yourcounselor, your comforter, and
you begin to develop yourrelationship with the Holy
Spirit.
And by faith in Jesus andinfilling the Holy Spirit,
you'll encounter the true livingGod, the Father, and have a
(31:16):
relationship with him thatencumbers and entails and
involves the power of God, andthere's nothing quite like his
power and his presence in yourlife encumbers and entails and
involves the power of God, andthere's nothing quite like his
power and his presence in yourlife, because when we pray the
Lord's Prayer, that will be doneon earth as it is in heaven.
That's the Father's majesty,his power, his glory coming into
the earth and into your life,and it starts by faith in Jesus.
(31:39):
Just talk to him.
My favorite prayer was Jesushelp me.
And it starts by faith in Jesus.
Just talk to him.
It doesn't have.
My favorite prayer was Jesushelp me, and he showed up right
away and I had nothing left tosay Jesus, help me.
And it worked.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, just call out to him.
It's just call out to Jesus and, like you said, you don't even
have to say that much, and thenjust sit back and listen.
You know, it might be 5-10minutes, you might have to sit
there a little while, but you'llstart hearing, you know from
the Holy Spirit or seeing yeah,and just you know it's.
It's a simple faith.
We have a simple faith.
(32:17):
It's not complicated.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
The world makes it complicated yes, well, we think,
we know yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's a battlefield of the mind, as the author Joyce
Meyer wrote about, and that'swhat we're in every day.
It's a battlefield in our mindand we have to go to the Word of
God, the simple truth, toconquer, to overcome those
battles, because they're goingto come.
I mean, we can't be in thisworld and not have the
(32:44):
battlefield of the mind.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Right, against yourself, against a real enemy,
against others trying tonavigate this life.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah.
So every one of you are goingto come against it, but you've
got to have Jesus in your life.
You've got to have Jesus,you've got to have the Word of
God and you need to have theHoly Spirit.
You've got to have the Word ofGod and you need to have the
Holy Spirit.
And everybody's in differentplaces in their walk.
But we just encourage you to dothose three things to get in
(33:14):
the Word of God, get into aChrist-centered church and get
into a group.
The group is very important.
Don't forget that part, becauseoften churches are larger and
you can't really go deep withpeople in a church.
You go deep in the group andwell, this has been great guys.
Wow, I'm so glad we did this.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, thanks for having us, John.
Yeah, Kyle, Sam, thank you forcoming on and till next time.
Till next time, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
You've been listening to Road to Redemption, sharing
powerful life testimonies,giving hope to those on their
own road to redemption.
If you have any comments orquestions, we would love to
connect with you.
You can reach out to us atdestinyradiolive.
Thank you for listening andwe'll see you next week on Road
to Redemption.
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